iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max Teardowns - Worth The Upgrade?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Our teardown earlier this week revealed some very interesting things inside the iPhone 16 and 16 Plus. But today we’re taking a closer look at Apple’s premium line of phones, the iPhone Pro and Pro Max. The larger Pro Max’s have always been Apple’s flagship devices while the smaller Pro’s have played second fiddle by inheriting most, but not all, of the Pro Max’s features.
This year that changed, with the smaller iPhone 16 Pro receiving the same hardware as the 16 Pro Max-just with a smaller battery and screen.
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7/10 never thought an iphone lineup would ever score so high
And a score most Android phones will never achieve...
Aside from their software-lock, iPhones have alibis quite easy to repair actually
@@Raja995mh33Isn't iPhone unlocked most of the parts except for security sensitive parts?
The part serializing was the only thing keeping the 14 have a low score. Now that you can remove the back glass, reprogram the parts, remove the battery and screen easily, the score is high
@@epicnicity916 Now that Apple only blocks the use of stolen parts, I'm OK with that.
Apple has definitely improved when it comes to repairing.
Not sure why they didn’t do this sooner as it’s a win win scenario.
4:10 you're never going to find that piece that flew off
Not even going to try.
good eye it's a little washer.
@@iFixitYourself探しすらしないの面白い🤣
😂😂😂
Next year they will implement the battery technology of base varient and pro to all Phones in iphone 17. Maybe they are testing its good or not.
This is like a Zen Garden Compared to "JerryRigEverything"
The empty or at least half of that space on the logic board should be the usim reader for the model sold outside of the US.
EU regulators gave it an 8... finally Apple is listening a bit.
Who knew that such a small motherboard could pack so much power. Just over 4ghz is very impressive and it’ll only get faster from here.
They're starting to hit a performance wall. Sure each CPU rev has improved numbers, but the gains are smaller each time. I hope the bigger improvements we'll see in future iPhones will be internally.
@@DurkMcGerkgains are bigger this year than 15 and 14 pro gains lol
🔥
@@michealadebz The last big jump was from 11 to 12, they've been tiny after and before that. Now if they start adding more RAM to the phones...
@@DurkMcGerk you haven’t watched the geekerwan analysis video. The a18 chips this year are so good. They use less power while delivering much better performance. They run more stable than some Android GAMING phones now (on the pros)
Weird, so the Pro Max gets neither the new metal battery nor the new electrical adhesive, the 16 gets the electrical adhesive but no metal battery,, and the regular Pro gets pull tabs. Odd mix. Hope next year it's all metal and all electric pull tabs.
exactly. i'm so disappointed
They're probably either testing a mix of solutions, or the manufacturers for either the new electrical adhesive or the new metal battery are unable to fulfill Apple's order for every single thing in their lineups so Apple is electing to have a mix of products. They probably will decide on a single solution for iphone 17.
@@ArchusKanzaki or both. If either of ideas fail, other models will be fine
The iPhone 16 series looks less complex and simpler than the 15 and 14 series
No one cares
@@yosholock I care
@@yosholock no one cares that you exist or not. Why are you still here?
@@yosholocki also care
@@yosholock I care too
All those different battery changes dispersed across the lineup makes me wonder if they're doing some sort of A/B testing of what works the best.
Why does the Pro Max not have the metal covered battery like the 16 Pro?
They're testing the different techs.
Probably suppliers.
Probably will have next year.
I would personally assume maybe it could be because of the 16 Pro Max having more physical area to dissipate heat...?
thats why i'm NOT UPGRADING.
"That thumbprint ... was included free with the device." Shhhh! Don't say that out loud, or Apple will start charging extra for interior fingerprints too.
Because the mAh size isn't shared in the video for the iPhone 16 Pro, I took it upon myself:
Through some little table math the iPhone 16 Pro has a:
3.83 V 13.9412 Wh 3640mAh Battery
(The Math: 3640mAh x 3.83 V / 1000 = 13.9412 Wh)
(The Math (the other way):
(13.9412 Wh x 1000 / 3.83 = 3640mAh)
:)
Would be good to compare the energy density of the two sizes - the 16 Pro's metal encased battery and the 16 Pro Max's conventional pouch battery
You can never trust kids to wash their hands by themselves... 1:21
That one was assembled in India most likely 😂
iPhone 16 Pro's battery uses the new "stacked" tech. Was rumored for 15 Pro/Max, but never came. That's why is more dense. Also both 16 Pro uses M14 OLED materials for their screens vs M12 on the vanilla 16 (same as 14 Pro/15 Pro)
Are the batteries actually using stacked technology? I’ve seen nothing that confirms it so far.
Nope they are enot using stacked battery technology yet. They just added enclosure for the battery in adherence to the EU regulations on ease of battery replacement and repair.
What you've just said was never confirmed. Have you seen JerryRigEverything's video about the iPhone 16 Pro teardown? It may be because of the EU regulations. Last year, the EU mandated that all smartphones have removable and replaceable batteries in 2027.
@@gelgel4823 I have posted in Reddit with video proof from other big channel.
😲
I guess they are testing three different battery design.
One with voltage to remove rhe battery, another as original apple design and then another metal shell.
Maybe they won't go with metal shell and voltage run through to release the adhesive together.
Either metal shell or easy to remove the battery. With metal shell it's more safe, dense and can be removed via anything lol. So maybe this one is the best solution out of three.
Also better in transfering heat away
Have you seen JerryRigEverything's video about the iPhone 16 Pro teardown? It may be because of the EU regulations. Last year, EU is mandating that all smartphones have removable and replaceable batteries in 2027.
Yeah, I also feel like they're testing the solutions. Between standard pull-tabs or metal shell with pull-tabs, or the new electricity thing. They probably will standardize on next Iphone, after they decide which one is the easiest for both their technicians, and Apple's cost for producing an Iphone.
Personally, feel like the voltage run is the safest way. I think I feel safer with lithium cells being allowed to swell, rather than being cramped into a metal shell even with a pressure-release valve.
@@gelgel4823 yeah that's why they testing different solutions
@@ArchusKanzaki but metal shell is better for repairing as technician can easily pry remove it without any issue
Really very interesting video capture perfect details information share bro
why no one is talking how they shrink the taptic engine?
They do it every year, look at its size on the 6S and compare it to now
Who cares? It still works well.
Doesn’t matter how small it is if it works just as well.
Smaller = better because it gives more room for other components.
Keep telling yourself that
if it yields the same power
And some stubborn Haters will still hate
Yay, I get to see if the new pro is as repairable as the standard
0:30 who wrote this crap?! Differences between pro and pro max was only at 12 and 15, other times they was the same
Srly: the "ASMR" of the repair process freaks me out. Sorry, no watch from me. Please have the audio like in your previous videos.
The empty space on the logic board is due to the SIM tray missing on the US versions? I have a SIM tray on my iPhone 16 Pro bought in Sweden.
Great video, thanks! just two questions: 1) Is there any non-declared RAM memory (as in last iPad Pro M4)? 2) Is it possible to know the 4 camera sensors in use? Thanks again!
The stretch adhesive you want to heat up the phone from the front side and it'll stretch way better without breaking. It's a huge difference even with a tiny bit of heat vs. room temperature.
Next step for Apple chip development is to get rid of that Qualcomm 5G modem and replace it with their design embedded in the SoC. The plan is there however making as good modem as Qualcomm's proved to be quite hard even for Apple and that's why it's still not there yet.
Great teardown as always, iFixit and Right4Repair rules!
Thank you so much for all your work you do for the environment, consumers, and wallets. I want to say I'm not a fan of government interference but man when you said Apple isn't planning to sell replacement ports... I just had to think "we need to force these guys to make SLIGHTLY less money" (and stop BSing around w/third-party repair).
Did it use LPDDR5X SDRAM ?
It says on my USAGE app that all of the iPhone 16 line up uses LPDDR5X ram. It’s probably why it’s slightly more efficient. The 15 series last year uses just the LPDDR5.
2:55 that hollowed out section is part of the front speaker's acoustic port, nothing to do with any antennas. Apple moved to this speaker design on all iPhones that have the Dynamic Island.
Besides, on the exterior of that hollowed out section is still titanium - unless there's a glass/plastic window there, no way will there be any "punching through" of RF signals. The mmWave antenna is actually the thing to the right of the rear camera system with the array of 5 vertically aligned circles. It faces the back glass where the UWB antennas used to be.
The fact you require a suction cup, multiple wedges, heating equipment and 100s of difficult screws, I would not give it a 7/10.
Apple will indeed start the repair for charging ports. That’s why the design changed for the Charging Port. Internal memos have already been issued.
Where would you be publishing the article on your site when you confirm that you can calibrate a 3rd party battery on IOS 18?
Exchangeable camera modules?
_Apple laughing in serialization_
Great video but please considering removing, or turning down, that music. It's very distracting and the important thing is to hear what you're pointing out.
Can i11 pro battery be replaced and with latest iOS and there will be no “service” information appearing, or?
I want to know more about that Qualcomm SDX71M.
It appears to be more than a customized version of last year’s modem. It’s more similar to the X75 modem, but that one is designed to work for as many devices and carriers as possible, so Apple may have requested a more customized version. Just not sure why it’s labeled as X71M when it has tech the previous version never had from the newer model.
@@Cujobob it is definitely not the same one that’s in the previous pro max. Running speed tests and I’m getting 1.5 to 3 X’s the speeds area dependent.
Why do these $1,000 phone do not have ois on selfie cameras and many still do not have autofocus.
Can the 16 pro max battery be use in 15 pro max? just wondering if it is possible..
First time small pro better than big pro - that silver battery is the dogs
Hi Ifixit team, kindly let me know if you ship parts to India ?
I would love to get a top down Lumafield screenshot of the internals. 😍😍
Is your told available in other countries like Pakistan
so thats where ownagepranks is now
"tHeRe Is NoT eNoUgH sPaCe FoR a MiNiJaCk"
People that bought pro max are crying…
The increase in the repairability scale is quite a pleasant surprise. Have Apple turned a corner?
No. EU regulation did for sure. Companies will always be companies if allowed to be.
Pls teardown wallpapers
دمت گرم داداش
Want the x ray image
should i feel scammed or w/e because the promax doesn't have the new "metal" battery encasing?
No, since it wasn’t an advertised feature. They’re likely testing different battery tech across the lineup and/or they’ve faced manufacturing limitations on which models can get the new casing.
They’ll likely roll out the metal casing to all iPhones in a future lineup.
Great video 👍
Still too high.
Nice touch with leaving some sound from the teardown tape
Upgraded my severely damaged and memory limited XR to the 512gb pro. Very happy I got a good year! Despite not having a ton of updates.
Nice, thanks.
Ii'm waiting for your x-ray wallpapers of iphone 16 pro max, and for apple watch 10 teardown
shouldn't you be twirling the pull tab around the tweezer as you stretch it ?
Irrelevant question, are you guys going to teardown the usb-c AirPods Max by any chance?
It’s a great phone . It’s definitely worth to upgrade it.
time to puncture that new metal encased battery to really find out
um ram upgrade use??
iphone 15 pro max other youtuber sdd 256 > 1tb upgrade
Im upgrading from the iPhone 7 plus, so I think its worth it
1:18 subtle hint at a possible return of the Touch ID 🤪
Nice teardown.
128GB storagse when you can record raw 4k 120fps 💀💀
“storagse” 💀💀💀
@@M4NA5 it's just storing an extra s
I though all the 16 models had that electronic method of removing the battery. Wth apple?? This makes it seem that it won't really push through to following models.
They aiming for 8
Which battery will degrade fast, pro or pro max?
The casing shouldn’t really matter. It’s not for heat dissipation, and battery degradation at different temps is an uncertain topic anyway. Arguably the max has greater starting capacity so you will notice degradation less. You will also run it to near zero less often as a result, so it will probably win out a bit. But the lifespan differences are probably minor and not something to choose between them for. The only real differences of concern is the longer starting battery of the max and the larger (to large now for most people in my opinion) size of the max.
pepee
3:24 I would love to repair my iPhone 13 but there’s several reasons I won’t 1 I believe it’ll last me the remaining 3-4 years till I have no choice upgrade well aside from battery life . I would repace my battery accept for other reasons. 1 software locking means it’ll be yelling at me for replacing the battery not to mention my screen does have a decent scratch and something tells me if I was to attempt to replace the battery the screen would probably shatter when I remove it there for making me replace it as well making the repair cost nearly half the price my phone is worth
Hopefully the parts-pairing comes to older iPhones so that we can get rid of those messages for genuine/OEM parts.
I have some question the iPhone 16 pro have a battery with metallic body so much more repairable, easy to change and may be helped to dissipate heat better than the iPhone 16 pro max? And is it less good battery in the iPhone 16 pro max you thought? Because she is like a classic battery with flexible body. I would like to know if it's safe before buying the 16 pro max :) . thx mate
It’s safe. The metal casing probably just balances the real world risk. The larger capacity of the pro max battery means it probably would be ran to zero as frequently, and so will fail and degrade far less often. P.S. the metal casing isn’t for heat transfer, there’s still an air gap between it and the frame. So it only to allow safer repair of the smaller, and so more failure prone, pro battery.
It’s always nice having a professional tear-down, especially when coming from a Jerryrigeverything video.
He’s a professional…just not at repairing 😂 arguably, for seeing the internals he’s much quicker and more effective than this guy haha. You just can’t plan on using the phone again, which judging by his durability test he does prior to every tear down is probably a moot point for most phones
That's crazy 🤪
So compared to the largest 16PM battery, the smaller 16P battery is safer, right?
Maybe. Definitely if swapping it out. But the PM also has larger starting size. As such, it may be ran down low less often for most users, which is a known cause of degradation and possible failures. So, Apple could have simple determined the increased capacity of the PM lessens the need for the metal casing safety features. In essence the metal casing may just balance the real world risk of both out for the average user.
5:32 unlucky for me, my iphone 15 pro max needs usb port replacement 😢
It probably just needs a clean, USB-C clogs up easier/quicker than Lightning
WTF , 16 pro max don’t have a metal case battery ? 😮
Correct.
Bizarre they didn't use the new battery tech on the 16 Pro / Pro Max. The standard phones really did shine this year.
Why only the 16 Pro has the new battery?
They’re probably testing the new tech before rolling it out to all their lineup. We can expect to see metal casings for all their models in a future lineup.
Can someone explain 3:02... where is that opening... the top is straight titanium, no antenna like where the antenna was on the 15pro where now the capture button is
They are probably banking on it reaching the plastic antenna band at the top to gain signal access. But like he said most of the country can’t even use 5gmm signal.
The frame is bonded aluminum and titanium. You can’t see clearly what parts are which. The titanium frame does have a gap of aluminum to allow for greater signal pass through. It’s just not observable without an expensive scanning equipment like shown in this video.
please share the X-Ray wallpaper of the iPhone 16 pro and pro max - love the last one for my old iPhone 15.
it’s the default wallpaper in iOS 18
@@brandon_nope I was referring to the x-ray wallpapers that Fixit has released in the past. I did not specify X-ray and edited my comment to include that. sorry to confuse and thank you for the comment.
4:09 bye bye tiny screw 😅
You saw that too? I chuckled.
7/10? no way! Anything non repairable scores 5? how is the score calculated?
1 you wouldn't even be able to open the phone to replace the screen. One and done 💁🏻♂️🤣
omg. x71 modem. not x75
01:00 was this intentional, couldn't the editor cut this? it felt awkward...
TL/DR: no. Next,.
It's extremely questionable how you are rating these phones. You did not cover parts pairing at all in these videos.
They were paid off by Apple 😂
Could be because of accessible repair manuals.
Parts pairing is accessible now to normal users. You can swap OEM/genuine parts between phones and do the parts pairing process all by yourself.
@@fujinshu yes, listen to the corporation.
He did. You now have some ability to reset and paid parts. Realistically, some balance is good. While Apple for sure will do every they legally can to stop repairs it is indisputable that theft of iPhones has been largely eliminated due to the efforts, which make actual people a bit safer. Without parts pairing phone theft for repair parts would be a thing immediately. Now, this doesn’t mean Apple can’t do much better at allowing third part parts pairing and make the process for actual owners to do it much simpler. But again, iOS 18 does make steps in this direction. Watch the video carefully first.
7/10 is way too high.
Any phone that does parts serialization and software locks deserves an automatic 0/10 repairabilty score.
they are doing it to avoid countries steading those parts for wars/drones
Software lock does make people safer. It has essentially killed iPhone theft.
Now, that doesn’t mean Apple couldn’t make an easier system with better access to verified OEM and third party replacement parts. But some level of parts pairing is good, so long as legal oversight ensure companies don’t abuse it. I would rather some non properly recycled phones have a lock on their parts than have a substantial increase in phone theft muggings since real people get hurt in those situation. Also, iOS 18 has improved the process. Again, more could and should be done but a saying it should get a zero is naive both in terms of actual repairability and other impacts of the pairing feature.
That included Thumb print? Free?? From apple? I don't buy it! You definitely have 9.99$/day subscription directly with them!!
Such a tired joke. Pretty outdated too.
3.7K views in 1 hour ? 😮
Is there a possibility of modifying the pro max US version to add physical sim capability?
I doubt it.
so whats the better in case transfering the heat away the 16 pro or pro max battery model?
Neither. The metal battery doesn’t touch the frame so it does nothing for heat transfer. It’s just to help with swaps and to prevent potential bulging, which may be more common for the smaller (and so more frequently ran to zero) pro battery.
@@Jordan-ru8yf but someone tells that pro max it doesnt got the heat so much cause they got blank space on mobo than pro base model?
Thank you for the tear down. Especially for discovering the modem is not 2024's expected Qualcomm's x75, rather derived version of last year's x70 which is very disappointing and letdown 😢
I really hope Apple can develop their own modem soon, just so they don't have to pay Qualcomm obscene amounts of money for a modem.
Agree, I need faster 5G to watch UA-cam in HD.
And send messages.
Can’t wait for 6G
16 pro signal strength is 100% negatively impacted from the removal of that antenna. I work in the middle of nowhere, however we do have towers that are spread far on this one certain road as you drive down it. Galaxy S21U, S23, iPhone 13, 14, 15 pro's no issues over the years, struggled in some spots but has been great. 5G and LTE active currently, 16 pro barely functioned on the network the entire duration of the drive today almost. One spot it was really good. Not very impressed.
I highly doubt you're getting mmWave in the middle of nowhere. That's almost certainly not what you're observing.
mmWave is provided by small % of service providers, and 5G is not available in middle of no where.
May be there is some other issue.
As others have stated mmWave isn't used for remote locations which is the only use case for the antenna we're talking about. It's higher speed but relatively short range so only makes sense for high density locations like sports arenas, airports, etc. Makes zero sense to put mmWave "in the middle of nowhere."
Firsttttt
“Apple’s Pro Max has always been the premier product and the smaller one plays second fiddle” No. maybe if you’ve only paid attention the last four years. But not always. Scrub
7 out of 10, when every single component is paired to the logic board, are you serious? Also, fun fact, the new camera button is welded to the frame, so you have to buy a new housing if it breaks
59 seconds No Views , repairing your phones fell off