You know thw character is bad for the game when the commentators who are being paid to hype of the match are making jokes about how boring the match is with lab coat.
Lotus went to watch the games in general, but entered in the pools himself with no practice.. Why would you go to a world competition without practicing even a week at the very least
NITROOOOOOO i guess the nerves got him! There is no way he was expecting that hit to land and that's why he forgot about the debuff and didn't extend as he should... it sucks to lose like that but Zane deserved too.
From. Nlbc days when hes up and coming from losing some. Of the majors placing second finally WINNING IT ALL with all the killers in dbzfighterz present CONGRATS LEGENDARY PRED! It was a legendary RUN!
Shit made no sense why he didn't extend that combo longer. If he was debuffed why risk being so basic to not get the kill. He needed a sliver which he could've got by doing a basic vanish route. He gave it up
@@cosmik411 He wanted to just finish the combo quick and end with lvl 3. When youre in tournament in top 8 with all the nerves, its a good call to just be safe and get a super out to kill quick. unfortunately this backfired because of the 21 debuff. otherwise it would have killed and he would have had less chance to choke and drop a combo.
@@livingcreatureperson Well let me not say made no sense. I understand the reasoning. Just wish we could've seen Nitro make it further cuz it just seemed weird that Nitro was going for the hard shit the entire time and then right when it counts he does the most basic of basic confirms and loses
@@markrobless6245 stop that bullshit. Go back and look at top 8s of the past seasons and you tell me how many people used those setups at the same tournament. Fusions + labcoat21 is just about EVERY. SINGLE. TEAM. across MULTIPLE tournaments. Do not even try to act like this is what past seasons was like, you can try and trick yourself and say bardock/gt was overused because g01 was wining everything with that team so you may think everyone was using it when it was mostly him.
@@webadagrande Damn near everyone was using her so that's no excuse...also his teen Gohan was putting in mad work did y'all not watch the fight, his Gohan won the point war almost every time
@@webadagrande the only player not using 21 was Yasha. Everyone used some iterations of both 21s and fusions so what are you talking about? It’s a fighting game, everyone will always gravitate towards top tiers. Strive’s top 8 was a bunch of HC, Leo, Nago and Rams. It’s just the nature of the game. Blame the developers for making bs characters instead of players for picking them
Really hard to really care about a "competitive" game until labcoat 21 is balanced or straight up banned. I appreciate that there is an upcoming balance patch but with it still being like a month away thats pretty insulting with just how broken she is. Theres a reason she is completely separate from the other DLC packs
It is not that serious, you can still get better at the game and for a while a bunch of community tournament runners have been banning her. She's banned for heatwave from bum and ceo as well.
Labcoat aside, this was a very fun top 8! (which you had to make top 4 just to even cover entry fees lol) Hopefully offline tournaments are here to stay again
I love that Hikari didn't make it out of pools and to further cement his loss Pred won the entire tournament. Hikari isn't even up there supporting his country winning despite his rivalry, what a punk. Congrats Pred!
@@josephfarraj8687 a character doesn’t carry because they cover each other’s weaknesses. To do genuine damage required optimisation and for strings it’s more situational. Chastising the usage of 21 is justifiable only in certain areas( debuff(4 invulnerability),non protected unblockable 214 and 236l and M) and I wouldn’t see that as a bad view to say she does carry a team. But I highly disagree with the fusion carries. If someone makes a well-built team and everyone starts using I guess ppl think that equates to being broken
@@famousfox6318 you can’t deny LC 21 definitely carries. Yasha popularized double fusions in tournament and now everyone uses it and does well. The idea of playing whoever you want kinda dies down when everyone just plays fusions and 21’s together. And yeah the synergy is so good with them together too, that’s why it’s so popular. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if everyone and their mother didn’t have a double fusion on their team just because one top player won with it.
@@josephfarraj8687 yeah agreed this is just a part of self-categorisation in form of grouping. They tend to fixate themselves within playing effective with minimal skill ( hence why the American that do fusion guys rarely attempt to be optimal and the same applies with 21( like I think only nitro out of the Americans was trying to be optimal at the very least with her)) and by associating yourself like that, simply means you’ve got no ground or character as a player to hold your ground unless someone does the job for you first. And honestly if people tried to even be more creative and into game theories ( not everything has to be true mix), we’d be seeing a lot more creative stuff. Use zane, yasha, kayne as good examples ( Even NYchris) of what picking non-meta teams can do to be good ( but then again they just end up copying the team ( especially with yasha))
Wth are you talking about? Robbed? Using VEGETTO?! Just count how many ex legs he did every round, trying to get lucky and rob 70% health with a single hit because well, Vegetto 🤡.
DBFZ has never seen a character more broken than labcoat. Im convinced Bandai released her to nerf Yasha since he was so dominant. Without Labcoat he's the clear best player, but Pred's defense was unlike anything i've ever seen, imo even better than Go1 cause Yasha's mixes are way more advanced then what he blocked. Would love to see a rematch between Yasha and Pred without Shitcoat. But Pred deserves it today he played incredible.
They did it to make money, thats straight up the only reason. Her balance is so completely out of whack and isnt in any of the season passes. They needed to turn a quick buck
Did u all knew something funny nitro Lose only bcuz he didnt make down Medium Medium after the teleport and than ex dive or Medium dive in to the level 3 thats all he played very nervous at the end he could won that.
Lol why did nitro super dash after the ki blast to confirm did he get nervous or something 😶then he canceled out 2 hits for his ex move which made no sense because it would of been a hard knock to level 3
@@estusflask3251 Wawa played and every French player played labcoat, what are you talking about? Yasha was the only one who didn’t play labcoat in the entire top 8. Stop trying to discredit pred’s win. He’s king right now just like how Wawa was when he won BBB
@@tearitup5864 discredit ? Pred is garbage why do you think he never won anything like never until labcoat she will be banned in ceo and i swear to you he wont even make top8 And wawa got robbed against nitro and he didn’t play lab coat against him nitro himself says it go on his twitter
Everyone using the same team is wack 100 smh. Hopefully the new update will change everything up. Nerf fusions and lab 21. Not too much but enough to force people to start using the other characters. This is ridiculous.
Nitro vs Zane was the most annoying match to watch... On top of the constant debuff, Zane is always running the clock with Zamasu flight, what a lame match but oh well.
@@plazmamasta193 Yeah I know it’s a tactic to run the clock and at tournaments it’s whatever it takes to win sure but it was still a lame match to watch that’s all I’m saying
Sonic only plays sometimes and deskillsage washed. And the Japanese boys have been MIA ever since covid started lol they don’t come to the US tournaments anymore. Maybe we’ll finally see them at EVO now that it’s coming back.
Sonic focused on Skullgirls, dekill and go1 washed at the momment, kazunoko idk he plays other things maybe (like sage and go1) and fenritti can't travel outside of japan
SPOILERS for GF Can't believe pred i know hes won some hoc tourneys but after seeing him lose to hikari alot at hoc and kinda come I second alot recently him winning this was a big surprise congrats pred
funny how hook spent the last months crying how his team isnt viable anymore, but as soon as he pulled the team out he did much better, hook is just washed at this point, there is no way he's on the level as most of these guys, lab coat or not
You listen to commentary that hard? Tf are you here for? Maybe it’s just me and I shouldn’t judge but it all sounds like a bunch of background noise to me
Whine and cry about it hardly even notice the commentary people make such a fuss about it I can’t understand why commentary is so important to busy focused on the games
You know thw character is bad for the game when the commentators who are being paid to hype of the match are making jokes about how boring the match is with lab coat.
You know thw character is bad for the game when the commentators who are being paid to hype of the match are making jokes about how boring the match is with lab coat.
Yeah shes worse then pre nerf UI TBH
@@monkehotdogs2227 I haven't seen a character this unhealthy for DBFZ since... Well, ever. Even Season 2 GT Goku wasn't this abundant in the meta.
@@Wizard_Lizard_ Android 16 on launch?
😭😭 gt goku beats lab coat by a LANDSLIDE
Nothing like an OP non-canon character in a game all about the nostalgia hype. Master move.
Yo, Lotus's approving nod at the end of the first Grand finals match was so good
Lotus went to watch the games in general, but entered in the pools himself with no practice.. Why would you go to a world competition without practicing even a week at the very least
most impressed with Zane this weekend
Complete facts
As a zamasu main, i respect that he can show off the character at the top level. the man is skilled
Most impressed with Yasha. Not caving into using the broken lab coat and still making it to third.
1:52:29 Tyrant w the AMAZING VA skills
Lotus watching Pred was like Piccolo watching Gohan finish Cell.
Kill em runt
NITROOOOOOO i guess the nerves got him! There is no way he was expecting that hit to land and that's why he forgot about the debuff and didn't extend as he should... it sucks to lose like that but Zane deserved too.
After Zane got him with that happy birthday it went downhill
Shout out to hook man going back to the OG team. Probably one of my favorite players.
Nitro had zane should of extended the combo alot more.
thats what im saying like if he would’ve just let the last hit of ex kick hit he would’ve killed or just 2m or anything he need one more hit 2 max
On God bruh. It hurt me so bad 😭😭. Very painful coulda woulda shoulda moment
"This has been the most cursed DragonBall tournament"
Couldn't agree more 🤣🤣😩
F in the chat for Wawa. He got screwed
The 2nd place curse was finally lifted for Pred!
normally i always root for the french but pred honestly deserved it the most
From. Nlbc days when hes up and coming from losing some. Of the majors placing second finally WINNING IT ALL with all the killers in dbzfighterz present CONGRATS LEGENDARY PRED! It was a legendary RUN!
1:11:28 a little piece of my soul died when that didn't kill. If he had just extended it just a tiny bit more😭
He didn't use his jump cancel or his 2m 5M!! he could have j2H -> j5LLL ki blast 214H for that last bit. Profound sadness
Shit made no sense why he didn't extend that combo longer. If he was debuffed why risk being so basic to not get the kill. He needed a sliver which he could've got by doing a basic vanish route. He gave it up
@@cosmik411 He wanted to just finish the combo quick and end with lvl 3. When youre in tournament in top 8 with all the nerves, its a good call to just be safe and get a super out to kill quick. unfortunately this backfired because of the 21 debuff. otherwise it would have killed and he would have had less chance to choke and drop a combo.
@@livingcreatureperson Well let me not say made no sense. I understand the reasoning. Just wish we could've seen Nitro make it further cuz it just seemed weird that Nitro was going for the hard shit the entire time and then right when it counts he does the most basic of basic confirms and loses
Debuff go bur.
Zane Nitro was the match of the tournament
Good job, Pred! You deserve it G!
Only few people used teams without 21 and multiple fusions. This is how you kill the game's competitive scene
Pretty much been thr games meta in a nutshell lol, ssj vegeta, cell, bardock in S1, bardock, gt in S2 and now thus boring ass meta in S3
@@markrobless6245 stop that bullshit. Go back and look at top 8s of the past seasons and you tell me how many people used those setups at the same tournament. Fusions + labcoat21 is just about EVERY. SINGLE. TEAM. across MULTIPLE tournaments. Do not even try to act like this is what past seasons was like, you can try and trick yourself and say bardock/gt was overused because g01 was wining everything with that team so you may think everyone was using it when it was mostly him.
If u dont have lab coat in ur team ur trolling, that debuff is too good not to use, plus almost nothing she does is punishable
Yo that Combo Breaker hoodie Damascus has on is gas. Probably gon cop dat
Don't do it bro, I just checked and they want $80 smh
Legendary pred has been putting in work and has always been a great player. Watching him win this was thru hard work and dedication.
Doesn't matter the character anyone can use lc21
Nah you just hating
@@webadagrande literally everyone was using 21 and fusions so at that point it comes down to skill
@@webadagrande Damn near everyone was using her so that's no excuse...also his teen Gohan was putting in mad work did y'all not watch the fight, his Gohan won the point war almost every time
@@webadagrande the only player not using 21 was Yasha. Everyone used some iterations of both 21s and fusions so what are you talking about? It’s a fighting game, everyone will always gravitate towards top tiers. Strive’s top 8 was a bunch of HC, Leo, Nago and Rams. It’s just the nature of the game. Blame the developers for making bs characters instead of players for picking them
Really hard to really care about a "competitive" game until labcoat 21 is balanced or straight up banned. I appreciate that there is an upcoming balance patch but with it still being like a month away thats pretty insulting with just how broken she is. Theres a reason she is completely separate from the other DLC packs
It is not that serious, you can still get better at the game and for a while a bunch of community tournament runners have been banning her. She's banned for heatwave from bum and ceo as well.
Labcoat aside, this was a very fun top 8! (which you had to make top 4 just to even cover entry fees lol)
Hopefully offline tournaments are here to stay again
I love that Hikari didn't make it out of pools and to further cement his loss Pred won the entire tournament. Hikari isn't even up there supporting his country winning despite his rivalry, what a punk.
Congrats Pred!
LC carries. Not just pred but everyone who uses her. I'm surprised (not really) that Yasha was able to get 3rd. I'll be glad when everyone drops her.
I just realized he himself wasn't using LC. That was a hard loss, but still congrats to Kayne
@@MonroesArtStudio double fusions still carry
@@josephfarraj8687 a character doesn’t carry because they cover each other’s weaknesses. To do genuine damage required optimisation and for strings it’s more situational. Chastising the usage of 21 is justifiable only in certain areas( debuff(4 invulnerability),non protected unblockable 214 and 236l and M) and I wouldn’t see that as a bad view to say she does carry a team. But I highly disagree with the fusion carries. If someone makes a well-built team and everyone starts using I guess ppl think that equates to being broken
@@famousfox6318 you can’t deny LC 21 definitely carries.
Yasha popularized double fusions in tournament and now everyone uses it and does well. The idea of playing whoever you want kinda dies down when everyone just plays fusions and 21’s together. And yeah the synergy is so good with them together too, that’s why it’s so popular. I wouldn’t have a problem with it if everyone and their mother didn’t have a double fusion on their team just because one top player won with it.
@@josephfarraj8687 yeah agreed this is just a part of self-categorisation in form of grouping. They tend to fixate themselves within playing effective with minimal skill ( hence why the American that do fusion guys rarely attempt to be optimal and the same applies with 21( like I think only nitro out of the Americans was trying to be optimal at the very least with her)) and by associating yourself like that, simply means you’ve got no ground or character as a player to hold your ground unless someone does the job for you first. And honestly if people tried to even be more creative and into game theories ( not everything has to be true mix), we’d be seeing a lot more creative stuff. Use zane, yasha, kayne as good examples ( Even NYchris) of what picking non-meta teams can do to be good ( but then again they just end up copying the team ( especially with yasha))
labcoat fighterz
Gt Goku Ui and now Labcoast lmao
labcoat debuff should only work for a set period of time OR when you switch character it goes away. Its just too strong right now
1:53:45 Yasha is so fucking SICK!!! Most hype moment in the entire top 8!!
He’s the best and got robbed by lab coat
@@simonhoff574 hopefully the nerf is before Evo
My question is why they saying he got rebuffed when he never did??
Wth are you talking about? Robbed? Using VEGETTO?! Just count how many ex legs he did every round, trying to get lucky and rob 70% health with a single hit because well, Vegetto 🤡.
@@kelos13 ong they coping hard
This was one of the greatest tournaments I've ever watched 🥵 I'm dying
1:53:06 that vegito comeback was legendary
Jadore
Zane's performance was crazy, inZane is more accurate!
DBFZ has never seen a character more broken than labcoat. Im convinced Bandai released her to nerf Yasha since he was so dominant. Without Labcoat he's the clear best player, but Pred's defense was unlike anything i've ever seen, imo even better than Go1 cause Yasha's mixes are way more advanced then what he blocked. Would love to see a rematch between Yasha and Pred without Shitcoat. But Pred deserves it today he played incredible.
They did it to make money, thats straight up the only reason. Her balance is so completely out of whack and isnt in any of the season passes. They needed to turn a quick buck
Nah, vanilla 16 still shits on her
just here to rewatch pred win again
If you were to tell me how this tournament would play out, without seeing it for myself I would have called you a liar
Literally
What was the final debuff count?
I remember it going over 70 but I lost count lol
man i missed live pop offs
what was the final count on LC21 debuffs
Lol 77 just on top 8 alone
@@tearitup5864 smh lol; i lost count at like 63
Ay I just moved down to Tampa.
when u have a divine luck 1:49:16
zzzzz labcoat tourney zzzz lol. GG's to pred tho!
Sleep asf
That pocho blob gets bigger and bigger every day that pass
The lab coat invitational. Wonder how many times the word Debuff has been said lol.
Thank you legendary pred
Is android 21 broke or something she's on every team? I haven't touch this game in years so I'm just asking.
Basically a second gt
HOW MANY 21 LAB COAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS TOURNAMENT ?
I don't even like the guy lol, but was rootn for him in the end. LES GOOOOOO
Yasha cries every time, he wants that win so bad!!
Did u all knew something funny nitro Lose only bcuz he didnt make down Medium Medium after the teleport and than ex dive or Medium dive in to the level 3 thats all he played very nervous at the end he could won that.
I’m just ready for these patch notes smh
My boi hook picking the GOAT piccolo
Lotus looking like lil mama when she jumped on stage with jay z and no one payed her attention lol whenever pred beat yasha
Pred Been blocking on Xbox he got no choice but to react 10 frames before
Hoook be dripping in the top 8 WTF
Congrats to LP!
Deserved for Pred.
Hooks meta is over. He needs a new point
so happy for pred
Lol why did nitro super dash after the ki blast to confirm did he get nervous or something 😶then he canceled out 2 hits for his ex move which made no sense because it would of been a hard knock to level 3
What a minute...where was Sonicfox?
DQ'd to focus on skullgirl
@@Jadinass are you serious? Fuckin hell😂 sonic you crazy ass
ahí están sus franceses jajq
Any specific reason why they play on ps4 and not ps5 or pc?
Ps5 has a 1 frame delay compared to ps4. Pc might be too complicated to set up compared to a console where you turn on and play
The most used word in this whole tournament... "debuffed".... -.-
I've seen grand finals 3 times now. So I'm pretty much here to watch pred win again, anyone else?
What happened to all the big guys like Yasha or Wawa they were the ones that I wanted to win
H O C pulled up sent those boys home
They lost because they didn’t play lab coat as simple as that
@@estusflask3251 Wawa played and every French player played labcoat, what are you talking about? Yasha was the only one who didn’t play labcoat in the entire top 8. Stop trying to discredit pred’s win. He’s king right now just like how Wawa was when he won BBB
@@tearitup5864 discredit ? Pred is garbage why do you think he never won anything like never until labcoat she will be banned in ceo and i swear to you he wont even make top8
And wawa got robbed against nitro and he didn’t play lab coat against him nitro himself says it go on his twitter
@@estusflask3251 lol I stopped at “pred is garbage”, you’re a clown. You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about
Nothing to see here just Android 21 grand finals.
"This has been the most cursed DragonBall tournament"
Couldn't agree more
F in the chat for Wawa. He got screwed
LegendaryPredd with the Puerto Rico 👕🇵🇷🔥💪🏾
Hook should just win by default.
Worst comment I've ever seen
Hook is corny
At least he brought out the Piccolo
nah, abandoned pickles then tried to pick him when the meta team wasn't working out. got folded deservedly
I agree
@@ryanisaac6480 he broly should jest lariet dies to a beam he deserves it
41:33
Dang I lost my channel points
Damascus on commentary is sooo biased lol
Yeah we FGC is out here, like the BIAS!
Lol he balances out with kousticsm
He's just trying not to say what everyone already knows
he´s not on koustics´ level tho when it comes to bias
Everyone using the same team is wack 100 smh. Hopefully the new update will change everything up. Nerf fusions and lab 21. Not too much but enough to force people to start using the other characters. This is ridiculous.
Who knocked out reynald
Kayne and Yasha i believe
Kayne had so much momentum
Yasha got robbed bro RIP
Yasha is the here we don't deserve. One of I think 3 players in top 24 who didn't use 21
We got the goats on commentary!
GGs to everyone, what a great showcase. Also fuck bum ass Lab Coat 21 and that bullshit debuff.
Nitro vs Zane was the most annoying match to watch... On top of the constant debuff, Zane is always running the clock with Zamasu flight, what a lame match but oh well.
Bro this is top game play whatever it takes to win it’s a common strategy in some fighting games to just zone the player until the clock runs out
@@plazmamasta193 Yeah I know it’s a tactic to run the clock and at tournaments it’s whatever it takes to win sure but it was still a lame match to watch that’s all I’m saying
@@KakouAmon2 yeah I gotcha, but the way to counter this is to have a good tracking assist to bring them down
Where’s the ogs at sonicfox, go1, kazunoko, fenrttti, dekillsage!!
Sonic only plays sometimes and deskillsage washed. And the Japanese boys have been MIA ever since covid started lol they don’t come to the US tournaments anymore. Maybe we’ll finally see them at EVO now that it’s coming back.
Sonic focused on Skullgirls, dekill and go1 washed at the momment, kazunoko idk he plays other things maybe (like sage and go1) and fenritti can't travel outside of japan
The fake hype for labcoat is AMAZING! It says a lot about how trash the meta for the game is now, because of that character.
I saw Lab coat i skip, so i skip this 3hours video=.=
When the game was new and everyone was playing France was almost nowhere, now that nobody plays, they’re the only ones left 😂😂
I’m glad I dropped the game after lab coat.😂
Dang I forgot about combo breaker I use to never miss it now I know this season of dbz is boring
Honestly despite 21 this was a great top 8
@@willchalloner6643 no doubt about it
@@realhitogami7679 why even bother leaving a negative comment on this great top 8? it's so unnecessary
@@traidahhsien7378 bruh go somewhere dont got time for ignorance I just put that I didn't know it went down already with combobreaker
@@realhitogami7679 dont got time for ignorance? you got time to comment about missing combobreaker tho. bruh, go touch some grass bruh
Umvc3 fun to watch, dbfz is totally boring so much lab coat everywhere.
why they say U.S.A won?
Puerto Rico more like...
!?
nitro got robbed frfr. zane only wins that because of debuff. truly the worst meta
SPOILERS for GF
Can't believe pred i know hes won some hoc tourneys but after seeing him lose to hikari alot at hoc and kinda come I second alot recently him winning this was a big surprise congrats pred
LOL people from EU have no right to talk about American English when you guys say "SICKTH" instead of "SIXTH".
Fank you very much.
Debuff is sooo lame
Great matches...these commentators though...they were a bit much, not in a good way.
Labcoat is actually stupid, she makes the game stale
Ngl this game is not that good to look at anymore. Everyone plays with the same cheap characters. Made it easy for anyone to win….
Les commentaires me off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You the american you take pils for play shaaaaame
Nitro 😭
Whole tournament sucked just watching fusions and lab coats to boring
funny how hook spent the last months crying how his team isnt viable anymore, but as soon as he pulled the team out he did much better, hook is just washed at this point, there is no way he's on the level as most of these guys, lab coat or not
Still made it farther than wawa
@@RB-sj6pd wawa faced Nitro, which is the best US player with SonicFox, and got lucky 2 times with the ex legs and the ex spin cross up.
@@FunkyKarim93 he still did make it farther than wawa
@@FunkyKarim93 you can’t say nitro is the best now when you literally saw how unstoppable pred was. Pred #1 right now
Hook still has a great chance once the patch drops.
Why put Cringemascus in the finals?
0 hype, 0 great or funny calls, just going windows narrator mode.
You listen to commentary that hard? Tf are you here for? Maybe it’s just me and I shouldn’t judge but it all sounds like a bunch of background noise to me
L take
The commentary is really bad. Its supposed to be more fun. Not gonna mention names but we all know when it's fun the most.
You can just say outloud that you prefer American commentary.
Saying that Tyrant and Damascus were bad though is a misnomer
Whine and cry about it hardly even notice the commentary people make such a fuss about it I can’t understand why commentary is so important to busy focused on the games
L take
States had the match of the tournament nitro yall kings 😣🫡
You know thw character is bad for the game when the commentators who are being paid to hype of the match are making jokes about how boring the match is with lab coat.