Riot's Monetization Got Worse...

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 815

  • @garou9914
    @garou9914 Рік тому +151

    When riot said they'll have the biggest budget this year they meant the biggest budget to spend on making the most outrageous cosmetic monetization plans ever.

    • @sasapsaful
      @sasapsaful 11 місяців тому

      Big budget from lol/tft players wallet.

    • @corporateturtle6005
      @corporateturtle6005 11 місяців тому

      I mean... they sold out to and are now owned by a certain com country.

  • @narcis6467
    @narcis6467 Рік тому +1333

    So KDA Gragas is on the pipeline, got it.

    • @taylormaughan7428
      @taylormaughan7428 Рік тому +20

      😂😂😂 we can keep hoping

    • @estevanornelas
      @estevanornelas Рік тому +4

      Spit my coffee😂

    • @epicfale5397
      @epicfale5397 Рік тому +13

      Shit I'm down to be in his pipeline XDD

    • @goldsm1th92
      @goldsm1th92 Рік тому +8

      Hope real star guardian urgot is on the pipeline

    • @Svikthuset
      @Svikthuset Рік тому +4

      Yeah theres no fun allowed at Riot games nowadays. Its just gonna be Ezreal.

  • @yuzuhibiki
    @yuzuhibiki Рік тому +125

    As someone that hasn't spend a dime on league since they introduce lootbox in the system, this is the result of the consumers being willing to buy everything they spit out to "collect" every skin of their favorite champion. It's not really an issue since at the end of the day, the people spending hundreds just to get a outfit for a digital char are the only one suffering.

    • @maxenite
      @maxenite Рік тому +11

      Spending on just your favorite is okay. Imagine you're Ornn main. You can buy 3 skin. Or Kayn main. You can buy 5 and you'll get a new skin every 2 or 3 years. Problem is some people have mental problems like they feel like they have to buy every new skin.

    • @maxenite
      @maxenite Рік тому

      I had so many friends that they can't even play League good. They suck so hard and all of them have 400-500 skins on their accounts.

    • @ADoomain
      @ADoomain Рік тому +41

      ​@@maxenitegatekeeping someones wallet because they arent good. Truly a league player moment

    • @andreamarques8328
      @andreamarques8328 Рік тому +7

      I think spending some money on your fav champs after idk thousand of ours of free gameplay is pretty okay, lootboxes tho, never okay specially in a game that children can access

    • @octaviansimu2596
      @octaviansimu2596 Рік тому +1

      lux mains :)))@@maxenite

  • @GoodMrFe
    @GoodMrFe Рік тому +13

    The thing is that while money is certainly important in game development it is also very slippery slope once you start to do these kind of things. It can go very very wrong. I think the best way to cash in on the whales I've seen over the years is done by Jagex where they have completely different version of the same game (Runescape 3) where you can buy progress and MTX is a more common thing. RS3 plays that ''devil's advocate'' for RS community. Reason why I react to this case with Riot negatively is because the formula of ''big company'' + ''heavy monetization'' + ''F2P'' seems like that slippery slope in full action. You start with a loot box, you add a battle pass, you add insanely expensive chroma, you add another, another... And right here we can also see they are not afraid of doing it for each game they own and run under the Riot name. I guess runeterra is most untouched when it comes to MTX? I don't play it or follow it. But the fact they add these things, at least to me seems like a recipe for disaster. I've seen it many times where greed of company completely and utterly destroyes the game integrity (Nexon, all the korean MMOs, etc).

  • @ebox147
    @ebox147 Рік тому +34

    This is what normalisation of 50, 100, 200 bucks for a cosmetic leads to, and no one should fall for their explanations of needing to fund the games; riot is one of the most lucrative game companies out there, even without these schemez

  • @telkaivokalma
    @telkaivokalma Рік тому +12

    Reading through the reddit comments I'm gonna tear my hair out. This just existing is insane. "Devs need to eat". Delusional.

    • @alexandrul.9910
      @alexandrul.9910 Рік тому +4

      they do i always find it stupid when people are complaining about skin prices, in a free to play game... If you dont have the money dont buy the skin is that simple. It gives you 0 advantage in game, why should you care?

    • @telkaivokalma
      @telkaivokalma Рік тому +10

      @alexandrul.9910 Because it's about the industry as a whole. It's about standards being set. It's about principles, of which you apparently have none. "Free to play game, they need the money." Meanwhile, they are making hand over fist dollars with half the features over any regular priced game. "If you don't have the money, then sit down, poor person." This is the defense of garbage business practices? This is insane.
      If these prices are there for whales, then why not set the price at 500 dollars? Who benefits from the rng system? Who is it for? It's to make money off people with problems and obfuscate the price to people not paying attention. This is the problem. Set the price at 500 and ef off with the gambling garbo.

    • @michaeltaylor788
      @michaeltaylor788 Рік тому

      @@telkaivokalmait fine they need to make money for the game to continue.

  • @spectrophobia4042
    @spectrophobia4042 Рік тому +1

    my biggest problem with tft's monetization is the scaling back of free rewards. you used to get eggs with the free battle pass but now you only get the tokens for the gatcha, forcing people to interact with that system, and you dont even get enough tokens to roll until a bit into the battle pass.

  • @etiennebarre6226
    @etiennebarre6226 Рік тому +35

    time to invest in riot games or Tencent or something. i see a massive increase of revenue in the future, dont ask me why.

    • @andreamarques8328
      @andreamarques8328 Рік тому +3

      The substantial increase in revenue will happen when the MMO is out prolly

    • @aliwi3476
      @aliwi3476 Рік тому

      Chinese people huge whale's $$$ especially if it's Chinese theme

  • @Aquilla842
    @Aquilla842 Рік тому

    14:44 ‘s Oh thank god has everyone in this dead silent restaurant looking at me choking on ice cream from laughter, thanks Necrit

  • @faselfasel2864
    @faselfasel2864 Рік тому +6

    i actually couldnt care less if they introduce stuff for 500$, 1000$ or 10k. If there are idiots buying this stuff to feel special, more power to them. As long as there is absolutely no pay2win element attached to it, i won't care at all.

    • @yengoooo
      @yengoooo Рік тому +2

      Right! People are so entitled and it shows from the reactions. You get a free game and free in game items as well. It doesn't affect your probability of winning.

  • @thekilla1234
    @thekilla1234 Рік тому

    It's like CoD prestige but IRL.
    You spend time building up $500 and then reset back to $0 to get some different pixels on your screen.

  • @KindredDoomBot
    @KindredDoomBot Рік тому +1

    They are replacing FOMO with FOHTW. Fear of having to wait for it to appear in the rotating shop xD

  • @thoby123
    @thoby123 Рік тому +1

    I love how this video already needs a sequel for Redeemed Star Guardian 😊

  • @PykeTheRipper
    @PykeTheRipper Рік тому

    The Boy band is called "One Shot", Yone is getting the prestige in league 5 or more champs in the band i dont remember correctly

  • @michaelangello1327
    @michaelangello1327 Рік тому

    14:42 I cracked up and spit coffee after man

  • @CynicalReprobate
    @CynicalReprobate Рік тому +1

    After a decade of relationship with Riot Games and League of Legends, moving over to Dota2 has been an amazing fresh experience, especially with cosmetics and microtransactions in general, both are incredibly cheaper compare to League, aside from the cheap pricing of skin sets, you can buy individual pieces and make your own sets which may even be cheaper compare to the hero's currently available sets while still giving you a satisfactory cosmetic change. Dota2 also has gacha boxes but they show you predetermined sets you would get and not a giant pool of ever growing cosmetics, and after getting a set, depending on the Treasure, it's either a guaranteed on a different set until it rolls the set you want or if it's a dupe, you can convert them to points in which you can buy other cosmetics. The best part out of all this is that some cosmetics are resellable which you can use that money for something else not just in Dota2, making the game inherently very wallet friendly.

  • @muttnt
    @muttnt Рік тому

    its only 486$ in poland 70% of monthly minimum wage we have

  • @dark_demon2522
    @dark_demon2522 Рік тому +4

    Nice Undertale-Shirt

  • @hmmm.324
    @hmmm.324 Рік тому

    In Game Development, it shall always be a battle between:
    Passion Or Money
    Incorporating both would be ideal, but such a game takes a lot of time, effort, and talent, and it usually isnt free to play.

  • @captainkuro123
    @captainkuro123 Рік тому +1

    This is just flat out messed up how much work was put into making this compared to any other legendary or even an ultimate scan That's always been my problem with monetization just let me buy the damn thing for what it's actually worth if you did a good enough job you don't make enough money and yes I know everyone has their own taste and their own thoughts on how much something's worth but if you have a base that's easy to figure out

  • @DadoPanda
    @DadoPanda Рік тому

    They wouldn't be doing these things if people wouldn't buy any of it. As long as there are sheep, there will be shears.

  • @chez-bubulle
    @chez-bubulle Рік тому

    Anybody who thinks all this is expensive should check summoner's war's pricing

  • @Girroty001
    @Girroty001 Рік тому

    RIOT will never give us our Hillbilly BlueGrass music group Ft Gragas Ivern Malphite and Neeko

  • @LuvLexyU
    @LuvLexyU Рік тому

    So, adding.
    I'm not a whale in the sense of having 'lots of money to spend contiously' But over the course of TFTs life, I've spent say $20 here, $20 there. I've never had to go to pity for a LL I wanted, including chibis.
    TFT is kinda amazing, because if you own a item already - you don't get duplicates. You own that item.
    So what happens? all FUTURE purchases including those items in the pool, are NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN PULL.
    For the first collectors bounty, I will already own SG Lux and DM Ashe.
    I own a few high quality little legends too, not starr'd up, but own them. Soooooooo
    I can probably get them in just a few rolls, without having to go close to $500. Most whales will be the same, this is basically only to get a huge surplus of income.
    (I saw a leak that said runeterra is bleeding riot so badly, along with taking on oceanic servers, that their actually losing more money than their comfy with but due to playerbase they won't remove runeterra as of now.)

  • @MrRobin1997
    @MrRobin1997 Рік тому +1

    honestly who cares what they charge for skins? it's just cosmetics, as long as they don't give any advantage for gameplay they could charge 1k for a skin and i honestly wouldn't care in the slightest

  • @flowerfantasy3889
    @flowerfantasy3889 Рік тому

    the thing is, tft players would buy this. Unlike a league lobby, theres always a whale on every tft lobby, especially diamond up.

  • @popington4674
    @popington4674 Рік тому

    If I was a whale, even if I was willing to spend $500 for a skin, I would be kinda offended that Riot is openly admitting they are trying to extort as much money out of me as possible, increasing the price higher and higher each time because they can get away with it. And as someone who’s F2P, it blows my mind how people will spend $500 on a cosmetic item in a single game when that much money is enough to buy 20-50 FULL GAMES on steam. Cosmetic pricing has gotten way too out of hand….

  • @Chaoslordx13
    @Chaoslordx13 Рік тому +1

    *heavy breathing and sweating* "Man the harpoons Fellow riot team members!" *labored breathing and struggling to rise from gold encrusted Mobility scooters*
    "We will feast on.. *que snorting and wheezing as raising bloated arm holding gold harpoon* the whales!"

  • @Synosss
    @Synosss Рік тому

    When he said another music band i was hoping True Damage but i was disappointed

  • @a_crate
    @a_crate Рік тому +2

    i hate chibi champions with passion, what i hate more than them are their finishers tho

  • @gytis321s2
    @gytis321s2 Рік тому +1

    I don't see why people are mad for whales paying for Art. They support your game. Be happy

  • @kbenameashna5473
    @kbenameashna5473 Рік тому +1

    the bald goblin will attack soon

  • @Seroxm13
    @Seroxm13 Рік тому +2

    Bro, chill. Riot Games is an indie company and they are going broke if they don't do this. So please let them monetize us so we can continue to enjoy our fave games ever! 😃

  • @Tiltigo
    @Tiltigo Рік тому +1

    TFT has had terribly pradatory monetization for years now.
    Every chibi is way overpriced and the fact that you can't just buy whichever variant you want of a little legends is stupid.
    Not to mention the poro and baron ones...

  • @FarCaress
    @FarCaress Рік тому

    The part about the chinese verison of tft is true and not true at the same time, there is a tft version that is exclusively on mobile devices called battle of the golden spatula and features its own set cosmetics that are completely different from standard TFT. However, there is also the standard TFT played on PC and is the same as TFT in NA and other servers. It is on this standard version of TFT that the prestige version of Yasuo is being released, not the golden spatual version
    - TFT chinese server player

  • @starscream1955
    @starscream1955 Рік тому

    I really wish game companies (riot included) would try something more creative instead of copy pasting the same monetization schemes. Yes, it's risky. But you can't play a game nowadays without some slight variation on a battle pass or gacha system.

  • @LuckyArrOwO
    @LuckyArrOwO Рік тому

    ....I already hate how much they made tft little legends expensive and difficult to get if you want something that is legendary level. For the cheese strat, it was basically buy all the legends eggs available and star them to max and use your legend egg to get the legendary through battle pass (ugh). And if you want something that is not a part of the guaranteed freebie after 40 pulls (ie. Poro yeet), well, pray you have amazing luck.
    And now there are these. Naw. I'm done spending money on tft.
    Edit: legendary maybe mythic? I dont remember the rarity names (the red one. Lol)

  • @alexcat6685
    @alexcat6685 Рік тому

    1:37 something similar happened to Giants that their amazing Free to play game fell off, Not because they couldn't Manipulate and Scam their audience its because they were tol generous to even ask for money.
    Which is something the playerbase would've wanted wholeheartly, skins weren't locked you could actually work for them which is a problem as they couldn't give that much value outside of that.
    Well in theory because they already did via their game being really amazing, so all I really suggested with some people is they litterary just a tab that while not giving much back in it of itself was a basically patreon if you wanted the game to continue to exist you could pay a certain amount to the company to support this game.
    Which again the value isn't from some fucking Batlle pass or Skins, though you can moraly sell them, the value comes from if your playerbase wants to support it.
    Maybe it isn't as guranteed since well skins are just basically that but you gain a little thing extra with a skin.
    But I feel so dissapointed they didn't really try and the fact the only critism Giant as a game has is it was made as ART first and never a product which sucks because that art needs people to work on it so some level product needs to be sold.
    What I want to say is YES you can rely on a huge audience of people who simpy donate a little because well they'll last way longer than one guy ruinning his or her life with dirty scummy in your hands that could've simply been paitent about and gotten a long lasting Game and product.
    No games SHOULDN'T rely on these victims what so ever, its not healthy to spend that amount and Riot executives know this and will gaslight you into thinking its moral because "greater Good".
    Go shove that Jhin projection into your eyes, you seem be missing some holes.
    I'm just tired of seeing people defend hurting others because "the game needs" no it doesn't, it never did EVER did thats why companies cost of making games doesn't really have weight as they still can live off 40$ priced games, espically with "Microtransations" those thing disgust the mouth, Ironcally by paying more it leads to peoole working less as companies can compesate for that.
    Tell these bastards they can suck sojething alright, My big ol Large Groump.

  • @HeavenOnHigh
    @HeavenOnHigh Рік тому

    as long a game is free to play friendly, i don't care how much a skin cast, yes, even the max 200 bucks skin, i dont need to buy then but the game is free so what right do i have to complain.
    in the big sea of games, we in the bottom feast on what the big whales or leviathans drop

  • @celtifox8274
    @celtifox8274 11 місяців тому

    Doesn't matter, they already give you the best skin (rivier sprite) for free.

  • @mr.minnesota2560
    @mr.minnesota2560 Рік тому

    to be fair i am not suprised these skins didnt go up in price earlier, the quality have been better from past skins so the cost should be higher by portions
    we only wanna demand content but never know the price we should give the devs to

  • @grubyolsen7244
    @grubyolsen7244 Рік тому

    So RIOT I have a question... WHERE ARE THE PRESTIGE PENTAKILL SKINS!

  • @ProdAlarick
    @ProdAlarick 8 місяців тому

    Still, the event every time is priced so you can buy the 1250RP pack and unlock it, LoLs events now priced so you need to buy the 2500RP pack it's a shame,I got my DM Yasuo from the event egg,my friend got the Project Zed from his,as long as you have 0.0001% chance to just randomly open a Prestige skin I don't have a problem with it,but the 450token is shameless I agree. Eggs was good,random.

  • @namatanpaspasi
    @namatanpaspasi Рік тому

    They are now reaching mobile legends predatory monetization (200$ gacha skin is "normal" In there)

  • @nickylag3912
    @nickylag3912 Рік тому

    They ditched bundle of 3 little legend for fucking gacha system, I still can't get over that bullshit

  • @exEssSama
    @exEssSama Рік тому

    didnt apex do the 500 price tag fiest though with heirlooms?

  • @csharpcoffee
    @csharpcoffee Рік тому +1

    I honestly feel like people are getting entitled a bit. We don't get mad at Lamborghini for making cars normal people cannot buy. Why do we care about Riot making skins sane humans shouldn't buy?

  • @smiffitysmith8450
    @smiffitysmith8450 Рік тому

    they shouldve atleast added an arena and even with that 500 bucks is still expensive

  • @dushadow3840
    @dushadow3840 Рік тому

    I can't wait until they add a new tier of comsetics in 2025 where you will need to pay 1000$

  • @williampadmore2630
    @williampadmore2630 Рік тому

    Is every sentence a new cut?

  • @spyspace12
    @spyspace12 Рік тому

    Well at least its not another $200+ league skin.

  • @deku7836
    @deku7836 Рік тому +1

    I don't see an issue with this.. Me personally i'm not gonna get this but i dont see an issue because no one is forcing u to buy this u dont have to buy it to enjoy tft soo i have no issue with this idky why everyone is pissed like riot is locking u behind a 500 dollar wall or u can't play the game. Let them monetize their FREE game. If u don't want the skin don't buy it, if u want the skin buy it simple.

  • @Ahritsu
    @Ahritsu Рік тому +1

    Video 10 of kindly asking Necrit to do a breakdown of the Ruination novel. Double digit comments woohoo 🎉

  • @killmaidie6469
    @killmaidie6469 11 місяців тому

    It’s for the whales so there is more money to support the game. I don’t see how having outrageous skin price is bad for the game. You gotta have something for the whales to buy and 500 usd is just a drop in a bucket for them. It doesn’t affect me at all being executed by golden Yasuo on my OG green shiba.

  • @michij.3591
    @michij.3591 Рік тому

    Bro honestly... the game cost 0 and i have like 100 Skins that you can easily get for free over the years. I don´t get how people are angry at them for getting some money with cosmetics... People should be thankful to Riot for doing what they did for the gaming community. Also look at the Prime Gift you get, it´s so freaking much!

  • @aaleven4728
    @aaleven4728 Рік тому

    And all of this happened because of the Mobile TFT version in China...

  • @Shirou-Avalon
    @Shirou-Avalon Рік тому

    Me who got little devil teemo on first try on a free single roll

  • @Corbeauxx
    @Corbeauxx Рік тому

    I don't get why people are complaining about this... what they are selling is purely cosmetic, you are not in any way whatsoever required to buy it in order to play the game, nor does it give you any advantage in the game.
    Like what would you prefer? that the game be pay to play? or worse pay to win?....
    Just be glad that these items are nothing more than cosmetics.... people complain about everything.

  • @FabiTheSnake
    @FabiTheSnake Рік тому

    You know, there was a time when paying 500 dollars for a game made you a founder or something, and you had a say and such in how an update would look like in the future.
    Why don´t we do that? Pay 500 dollars for a premium skin and you get to say what the next Prio, or Map is gonna be?
    Just an idea.

  • @roipipi5898
    @roipipi5898 Рік тому

    what if we all stop playing the game at the same moment :D

  • @ags8507
    @ags8507 Рік тому

    did they just straight up said that their backend systems are worse than the other random chinese developers? lol

  • @chibishippo
    @chibishippo Рік тому

    $500 for a prestige tactician you can't even use in ARAM lol..

  • @MazDconDecepticon
    @MazDconDecepticon Рік тому

    Just because riot says they can't do it without these insane monetization doesn't mean it's true. they have been able to run the game for years without it. they are just getting greedy and make excuses

  • @sakutaro3musik486
    @sakutaro3musik486 Рік тому

    i really hate tft monetization, which is why i don´t play it a lot, I just want one star guardian chibi champion and not pay 200 dollar for this shit

  • @iSakura7
    @iSakura7 Рік тому

    Bro this is the price of a PS5 console. wtf riot😳

  • @brianrichard1188
    @brianrichard1188 Рік тому

    Oh. Oh no bro. Why was Convergence purposely capitalized. Lord heavenly help me. Please dont let Ekko fall victim to this.

  • @jopalt
    @jopalt Рік тому

    The payed and free battle pass is so much worst now in tft

  • @nicolasarroyo1746
    @nicolasarroyo1746 Рік тому

    I'm one of the whales, I bought the Jhin skin, that feels horrible after the first game
    I'm not buying this
    Riot is steping in thin ice
    If a collector can't buy things then he stops collecting

  • @AVA4242
    @AVA4242 Рік тому

    I'm surprised you didn't mention that Xbox Game Pass lets you unlock EVERY champion in league (and has benefits in Valorant and LOR as well)

    • @aliwi3476
      @aliwi3476 Рік тому +1

      What!?? Xbox game pass and riot stuff 😳

    • @AVA4242
      @AVA4242 11 місяців тому

      yeah its wild@@aliwi3476

  • @Lightmagician60
    @Lightmagician60 Рік тому

    you wanna know Why Genshin Impact is still king?
    when a promotional 5★ character is released, they have a 0.6~1.6% chance of a 5★ character being pulled, with a 50% chance of it being the a promotional
    if your 5★ character isn't the promotional one. the Next 5★ character will be
    with a 0.6% rate you should see on Average, you'll see 1 5★ character in every 166.6 pulls
    good news, every 90th pull without seeing a 5★ character, will always be one
    so in 180 you Will see 1 copy of the promotional 5★ character
    yes, i said "Copy" because, each character has a list of upgrades that can only be unlocked using Duplicate characters... and there are 6 abilities. so thats 7 copies
    7*180 = 1260 pulls. how much do pull cost? 10 pulls are 1600 Primogems... 1600 Primogems costs 1600 Genesis Crystals.. Genesis Crystals are about 80.8 per dollar
    = $2488.88 American
    thats 1 Character... i haven't even gone into Equipment

  • @ricardoroxas7690
    @ricardoroxas7690 Рік тому

    I genuinely don't understand what the problem is. The company has to make money to keep going, right? And these are only cosmetic? Which means having the skin doesn't affect gameplay?
    PS: if you decide to explain things to me, please be kind. I genuinely want to understand. 😅

  • @akskajd7138
    @akskajd7138 Рік тому +238

    15 dollars a roll makes genshin seem normal, that's crazy

    • @rasae4597
      @rasae4597 Рік тому +2

      ikr insane

    • @djbubblegum9975
      @djbubblegum9975 Рік тому +5

      Lots of gacha are way worse, but that doesn't make it better

    • @barney2120
      @barney2120 Рік тому +30

      Makes genshin seem normal LMFAO. Genshin pulling directly affects gameplay while being purely cosmetic in tft. People complain because its riot and people complain just to complain

    • @christianprevost8455
      @christianprevost8455 Рік тому

      nah@@barney2120

    • @liborsysel2234
      @liborsysel2234 Рік тому +3

      Its way too overpriced, but that only means that ppl should stop buying this. But it doesnt matter at all, yet u can see ppl calling it Pay ro win... Dont ever compare it to games where rolls directly upgrades your strenght

  • @cole_box
    @cole_box Рік тому +430

    Honestly I thought TFT had a tolerable monetization scheme before treasure trove. I was fine spending a little for the chibi skins when it was eggs for chibis especially since the drop rate was higher, but after the drop rate nerf it feels way more gacha/monetarily hungry than before :(

    • @Shinyolo
      @Shinyolo Рік тому +24

      In a gacha is is literally power the gacha is about, this is just a different chibi that you would use maybe 10 times and then switch back to your prefered tactician you always use anyway. I mean sure it sucks, but it's not comparable.

    • @faustsies1366
      @faustsies1366 Рік тому +7

      then dont buy it?

    • @irrelevant12
      @irrelevant12 Рік тому +26

      i dont get people´s reasoning, you have a game in which money doesnt affect gameplay in any way. No one is asking you to buy anything if you want to buy them that is your prerogative and yet you have people complaining that they "cant afford them" so wtf do you do in the real world? do you go to the car dealers and tell them that you are very displeased that because you are poor they are hurting you by having high prices? I swear this is a kids nowdays issue only, Like the only thing you would never criticize riot for is their ethical monetization system and yet we have statements like this.

    • @Sparkofshurima
      @Sparkofshurima Рік тому

      i think its better now since you dont have to buy it all at once. now you can take a few months and only buy the season passes and you dont lose all your progress towards the mythic one. to me it seems more friendly towards low spenders.

    • @Crylz...
      @Crylz... Рік тому

      Treasure trove ... i was hoping i would never hear of that cursed mechanic name outside korean mmorpgs like Blade and Soul that irreversibly ruined the game. Well, as long as it's not the only reasonable source of cosmetics or anything progress related, it sounds like it should be fine

  • @omgodification
    @omgodification Рік тому +652

    Riot seems to be confusing prestige with exclusivity as of late. Prestige is defined as "Inspiring [of] respect and admiration; having high status." Exclusive, meanwhile, is defined as "Restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned."
    The only kind of admiration that buying a $200 skin will get you is for how much you're willing to splurge on a chroma.
    Edit: we found the whales lol
    Edit 2: god damn the salt!

    • @ariCM13
      @ariCM13 Рік тому +7

      I mean they can go together imo

    • @CalaTec
      @CalaTec Рік тому +34

      Prestige was meant to be exclusivity from the very beginning, Riot just realised that it can be even more "exclusive". When I said Riot realised, I mean they saw there are some people willing to spend even more money than they expected at first.
      The only difference is that, at first, it was meant to be exclusive but somewhat obtainable for everyone and now they want to go full exclusive mode.

    • @toopink4death492
      @toopink4death492 Рік тому +3

      I mean the difference between Prestige and Exclusive is already blurred, so in essence they're the same, there's like a very small percentage of players that already own at least one Prestige Skin.

    • @omgodification
      @omgodification Рік тому +2

      They can, the problem is that they're not doing so

    • @queendread4427
      @queendread4427 Рік тому

      Problem is, while the price tag indirectly makes these items exclusive for certain groups, it isn't actually exclusive to those groups. If you're *really* dedicated you can get it anyways

  • @Mediados
    @Mediados Рік тому +24

    For every 100k people ridiculing this, there is at least 1 person seriously contemplating this purchase. So as long as this happens it will continue.

  • @biggsmike9526
    @biggsmike9526 Рік тому +42

    Remember when Hextech Annie was the most expensive and gacha skin? Anyone remember how much that used to cost on average?

    • @nicolasarroyo1746
      @nicolasarroyo1746 Рік тому +1

      and the worst mythic skin

    • @VLikaru
      @VLikaru Рік тому +3

      It was luck, but around 100 to 200 bucks

    • @shino4019
      @shino4019 Рік тому +5

      people were screaming when i played that skin back in the days, now mythic skins are literally just epic skins behind a battle pass

    • @tmmste
      @tmmste Рік тому

      mythic skins were good since they are "exclusive" but riot just relased the thing called mythic shop which ruins the whole exclusive content behind the prestige skins even holiday skins are more exclusive than prestiges skins at this point even riot know that so they have to make something really "exclusive" with the gacha system on tft no one complained about that because tft players are actually have brain but when they bring the gacha on league which is litearly an COSMETIC autistic league comminity will obv blame on it. im sure those peoples are not even buying the skins on your shop and still complain about gacha jhin skin litearly an league moment. and yeah its devs fault to bring a system called mythic shop which you can buy "exclusive" skins that people pay for years ago with mythic essence which is easy to get actually. i hope they just remove prestiges from mythic shop those hextech or other mythic skins can stay in the mythic shop@@shino4019

    • @Tacet137
      @Tacet137 11 місяців тому

      I remember people's reaction when I had it back then, now no one cares about your "prestige" skin

  • @ConZedtration
    @ConZedtration Рік тому +17

    I swear if Necrit said, "but hey, it's just a theory, A NECRIT THEORY" I wouldn't be alive typing this.

  • @dunkmate9136
    @dunkmate9136 Рік тому +160

    I feel like we're slowly going in the direction of how Garena used to be and that is very scary to think about...

    • @Vernardo
      @Vernardo Рік тому

      Well since SG/MY finally got their server from the hand of RIOT, that could be happened.

    • @dudendr777
      @dudendr777 Рік тому +30

      As a Garena immigrant myself, I do feel a lot of de javu from the current action of Riot. Riot did LEARN A LOT from Garena...

    • @kawaiiVietCong
      @kawaiiVietCong Рік тому +4

      I really dont give a shit even if Riot sell skin with the price of a real mountain. More money for them more content for me

    • @barney2120
      @barney2120 Рік тому +3

      ​@@kawaiiVietCongPeople bitchin for pure cosmetics because its riot while playing genshin and being happy spending for power

    • @silco5343
      @silco5343 Рік тому +3

      @@dudendr777 I prefer garena. at least the skins are affordable not 200 frigin dollars

  • @apunnojustice7475
    @apunnojustice7475 Рік тому +16

    Admittedly, I may be the target audience for the jhin chroma. I have perhaps spent An Amount of money on league skins in the past, and I pride myself on having every single jhin skin and chroma possible. But I didnt even try to get the skin. Somehow i, a disgustingly dedicated jhin main didnt even want it. thats a little sad, riot.

    • @ronlanders7354
      @ronlanders7354 Рік тому +8

      Is okay to whale to have some fun but sometimes games take it too far.

    • @NN-en5kl
      @NN-en5kl Рік тому

      i liked it and bought it as a non jhin player bc it is so rare

    • @apunnojustice7475
      @apunnojustice7475 Рік тому

      @@NN-en5kl so you spent how much on a chroma for a character you dont main because riot told you that those are the special pixels that the poor people dont have?

  • @PixeletDan
    @PixeletDan Рік тому +145

    everyday I'm bummed that LoR is so free to play. I truly wish the game could generate more revenue so we could get more guardians and boards and skins on a more rapid cadence. I love the game to death and the team is incredible. But man, sometimes it makes me sad that we're "too f2p for our own good." It stops people from even playing the game, for some reason

    • @ronlanders7354
      @ronlanders7354 Рік тому +7

      If it's extremely popular maybe, but it's just one of the many card games.

    • @PixeletDan
      @PixeletDan Рік тому +36

      @@ronlanders7354 but it's a card game for riot's universe, you'd expect that to help carry its own. people LOVE the universe of Runeterra

    • @AzureRoxe
      @AzureRoxe Рік тому +4

      @@PixeletDan They do, they just won't pay money to Riot.

    • @ShadowPhoenix82
      @ShadowPhoenix82 Рік тому +16

      ​@@PixeletDanit's not making people stop paying, and it is a popular game, but other than battle pass, what is there to buy? Only streamers are going to buy EVERY skin and board. If you like it, get it but no gamers are pressured to buy what they don't want and they shouldn't be. I don't have solutions, but we just need new reasons to invest consistently. The game is loved, though. That's not the problem.

    • @PixeletDan
      @PixeletDan Рік тому +14

      @@ShadowPhoenix82 The game could be loved by Riot moreso, is the issue. they've downsize the team while not really reinvesting or putting proper resources into it. The game receives almost 0 advertising which sucks. I agree that I think the best value is the battle pass and even then, as a huge fan of the game, those aren't even fantastic anymore. But yeah, more stuff to spend money on would be best. Emporium is a nice step in the right direction. Otherwise, Riot needs to help support the game just as much as we fans are

  • @saintlarfleeze3551
    @saintlarfleeze3551 Рік тому +9

    My only issue is that I am a HUGE League whale and even I didn't spend anything on the Jhin skin. I just couldn't rationalise it at all. It was so low effort.

  • @TheJamieellis
    @TheJamieellis Рік тому +31

    I'm already not a fan of the gacha/lootbox aspect of TFT considering League just lets you buy skins normally, but the fact we're getting over-priced prestige skins for chibis when we haven't even gotten a majority of the actual cast as Chibis, is wild. We could be appealing to more players of various champs... not just giving Yasuo more cosmetics like normal league...

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 Рік тому +120

    To be fair this has been happening with TFT all the time. We get these chibis all the time.

    • @wolhaiiik5387
      @wolhaiiik5387 Рік тому +5

      but that's like double the price of a chibi skin, plus isn't it just a recolor too..

    • @KittenCritters
      @KittenCritters Рік тому +15

      What 500€ cosmetic has Been previously in TFT?

    • @mariapaz6379
      @mariapaz6379 Рік тому +6

      i honestly think people who pay for the chibis are morons, regardless of the price. the animation is the best part, but it does get tiresome and you miss out time to plan your next board, a pay to lose situation.

    • @Schmaeil
      @Schmaeil Рік тому

      if people want it/can afford it and it keeps the game alive i see nothing wrong with them buying and it being in game@@mariapaz6379

    • @heromedley
      @heromedley Рік тому

      you said all the time twice

  • @3ΘΕΌΣ6
    @3ΘΕΌΣ6 Рік тому +21

    Its the new CEO i tell you

    • @xavierarial24
      @xavierarial24 Рік тому +1

      The current CEO still won't be stepping down until the end of 2023. Plus these type of things are way way below CEO levels.

  • @shmwck
    @shmwck Рік тому +2

    I am almost completely fine with Riot introducing $200 chromas, etc. If I see someone using one of them in one of my games, I might even think, "thank you, random citizen, for paying for this game so that I can play." Riot has even done a very good job of not making things pay-to-win. I don't even mind them releasing cosmetics marketed towards whales, as long as it doesn't significantly interrupt the release of features for normal players (why should I care if they released a $200 chroma, it probably took them like an hour to make and most of that was for the splash art. It doesn't keep me from getting new things, and I'm not buying it, so it doesn't really affect me. That chroma probably pays for itself if even one gets sold, if you think about it it's a really efficient way for them to raise funds for new features and stuff). There are only 2 things that concern me about their monetization, but they concern me a lot:
    1) It's a gacha system, with an in-game premium currency. In-game premium currencies are specifically intended to keep people from really understanding how much money they're spending on something, while gacha systems are intended to be addictive. The combination of the two will probably draw in people who really can't afford to be spending the money on the game, and points towards an increasing likelihood of scummy monetization methods in the future.
    2) I'm hesitantly looking forwards to the Riot MMO set to come out in a few years, but if I compare Riot's progress in monetization to Blizzard's, the Riot MMO will come out looking like Diablo IV or Diablo Immortals (in terms of monetization). I think an MMO would be great for League's lore and League's popularity, and I think an MMO set in League's universe could be amazing. However, if they gutted the game and made you pay extra to get individual features that should really be part of the base game, or if they made it pay to win, it would be ruined for me. If they did that to League, I would leave.

  • @ipeeontheworld
    @ipeeontheworld Рік тому +2

    i dont want to defend Riot cus they're dumb but you are wrong for whining about expensive skins. What are you, like 14? They're trying to make money. The most ethical way to make money is skins. You aren't supposed to have every skin nor can you use more than one at once. Then there's stuff like Janna's base skin which is literally the best skin (tied with Sacred Sword). Is Faker still playing all chars with base skins btw?

  • @rayznshine
    @rayznshine Рік тому +3

    I don't care with the price cuz I will never buy it anyway... Thanks to the whales btw

  • @Raiko01
    @Raiko01 Рік тому +2

    to be fair, its just a skin. If it allows the game to be funded while keeping it f2p, fantastic.

  • @omegax9053
    @omegax9053 Рік тому +2

    i got the normal dragonmancer yasuo on the free egg , they stoped the free egs for a new gacha sistem :)

  • @teo2809
    @teo2809 Рік тому +2

    i have a genuine question to people who dont like/get mad at this type of monatization
    ¿why does a high prize of a thing that doesnt impact the game in a free to play game is bad?
    like for me doesn't make any sense to hate that, if you think it costs to much money just dont buy it, what about not buying a thing you dont want to buy makes it a bad addition to the game?
    i would really like to have a response beacouse i would like to know how yall think.
    *btw sorry if i wrote like sht, im not english native and have dislexia so its kinda hard for me xd.

  • @aptq9116
    @aptq9116 Рік тому +7

    I cant help by wonder what if instead of giving Jhin Chroma they would introduce at 200 dolars map skins? that could work no?

    • @raniellelopez5653
      @raniellelopez5653 Рік тому

      How would map cosmetics work tho?? What if you bought 1 and someone in your team also bought 1 and someone from the enemy team bought 1.. how would that work?? Which map would be the one you guys use??

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 Рік тому +1

      At least that would be something new

    • @aptq9116
      @aptq9116 Рік тому +1

      @@raniellelopez5653 perhaps only you could see it, while in game one can be chosen at random?

    • @yorickvlt1021
      @yorickvlt1021 Рік тому

      Don't know if it's possible with how old the client is, but since it's a skin and doesn't change gameplay, you could just display it differently for every player. Removes the "flex" element though.

    • @raniellelopez5653
      @raniellelopez5653 Рік тому

      @@aptq9116 well that's pretty useless then the reason cosmetics exist is so you can show it off.. if you want a map skin that only you can see might aswell just use modskins.. completely free and pretty safe to use

  • @vasiledamian8661
    @vasiledamian8661 Рік тому +2

    I mean, c mon people, it's literally a cosmetic... if you don't like it, don't buy it? haha. it's funny that people forgot how pay to win games used to be not even 10 years ago... you didn't even have a chance against a paying user

    • @barney2120
      @barney2120 Рік тому +1

      Its a cosmetic but people gotta bitch because its riot while playing genshin which spending directly impacts strength and gameplay

  • @Vantasiaz0ckt
    @Vantasiaz0ckt Рік тому +2

    I dont get why people are mad about this stuff. You think its to much than don’t buy it and be happy that people pay that much for it because it keeps the game alive. You are willing to pay that much for a skin go for it and thank you for keeping my fav online game alive.

    • @Vantasiaz0ckt
      @Vantasiaz0ckt Рік тому

      People srsly beeing mad about this but still play Genthin, SW etc. are the worst kind. These Games are basicly pay to play in a free to play game.

  • @texasallstar6969
    @texasallstar6969 Рік тому +2

    Lol tft did so well that they got rid of giving us a free legendary little legend egg.

  • @creativname7599
    @creativname7599 Рік тому +3

    is comparing tft to genshin really valid, yes both have gacha but in Genshin you can unlock different playable characters that alter how you play, where as in tft you can only unlock cosmetics

    • @aliwi3476
      @aliwi3476 Рік тому

      You save primos to unlock character , but you never get those chibis without spending money

  • @elitacoelho5672
    @elitacoelho5672 Рік тому +4

    i unlocked all the champions this year, i love how it feels like an acomplishment

  • @mariuszwieczorkiewicz8130
    @mariuszwieczorkiewicz8130 Рік тому +2

    I wonder how many years will take for Riot to become next blizzard :)

  • @brainfreeze7549
    @brainfreeze7549 Рік тому +1

    I got a mythic pengu instead of Chibi Star Guardian Lux because there was a bug at launch and the support team said oops our mistake heres ur eggs back so u can try again and buy more eggs to get her AND SUPRISINGLY NO OTHER MYTHIC WAS DROPPED

  • @Megumi646
    @Megumi646 Рік тому +1

    I used to be a whale due to undiagnosed and unmedicated ADHD until 4 years ago. No joke. I spent my first paycheck on mobile games and League skins while I was in a homeless shelter. TFT got too pricey like last year, but this is ridiculous. Uninstalled and stopped playing as soon as the Barons came out.
    Thank god for psychiatrists. I'm actually getting my debt down. Otherwise, I would probably be in such a huge hole, but at least I would have this and that $200 Jhin chroma skin XD Obviously, no thank you.

  • @egilzroshi9737
    @egilzroshi9737 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, as tft player, i am absolutely fine with them releasing a 500$ skin or even 1000$ skin. Why not? Unlike LoL, where skins may affect gameplay (skill visibility, sound diff), in tft, there is absolutely no impact. I will never touch anything above 15$, as my budget is already strained as is, but if thanks to them releasing expensive skins, the game gets more funding and gets more fun, then don't we all win? Isn't it great?