The mc is voiced by Hiro Shimono, who voices Zenitsu from Demon Slayer and Dabi from MHA. It's one of his early notable roles, so i always remember this fact when the show is mentioned, lol.
In defense of Oreimo, is quite interesting anime that dives into Otaku culture instead of incest. S1 was actually and introduce a lot how otaku culture work. It just infortunate how it turns out to be in s2. Oreimo is like the incest bait anime that turn out to be not a bait.
30+ year old weeb here, I experienced the Oreimo boom first hand. I do remember for this show in the beginning they tried to make it as it looks like the siblings have a healthy relationship, while sprinkling it with bait here and there. Heck, bro even dated a popular gothic chick in the story for a whole season I recall. The anime is actually quite good for the first two seasons, it's really in the end the author decided to go the hardcore incest route, or else it's really a fine show imo.
As a girl I need to put this out there that a lot of shoujo and slice of life animes are actually made with guys in mind rather than girls and a lot of girls dislike stuff like incests and harems
The thing is I don’t think it’s just Japan. If you look at the most popular “tag” search’s all across the world it’s fairly common. Even a bunch of US states have 1ncest as the number one PH search. It seems these types of fantasies are popular all over the world. I think it’s just as the one comment said, sexuality in media is just more widely excepted in Japan. So they end up with more pornographic themes in non pornographic content. Now for why people have these fantasies in the first place…. I believe Freud had some interesting ideas regarding this topic 😂
Bro as someone who’s first 3 anime was Lucky Star, into Rent A Girlfriend, into Interspecies Reviewers, I can happily say I have never watched oriemio thank god 😫
I can't say I hate all tsunderes because there are some tsundere girls that are really enjoyable like Mai from Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny girl Senpai
Reminded me of an eroge called "imouto paradise". Just a man with his 5 sisters? It's enough to have four titles in the series. The previous title's MC kids are your new character casts each time.
Then there's also "Brother Conflicts", an otoge about a girl who moves in with her 12 new step brothers. It already has an anime and yes it's reverse harem.
7:58 I would argue the annoying one is the abusive tsundere who regularly punches her crush. Tohsaka Rin is clearly a tsundere, yet many people like her. Why? Because she doesn't constantly punch Shirou. Rin is the perfect example of tsundere done right.
30:40 The thing with the joke about Alabama and incest is that it's not even based in reality. I've searched the stats once, and the number of incestual marriage was 0.3 or 0.03% I'm not sure which, compared to most countries, this was basically minuscule. The highest country was Pakistan with 60%, which is crazy when you think about it
I was actually into Oreimo knowing the alabama stuff until I got spoiled that the goth girl straight up got rejected by the mc Like come on, the goth girl is better in everyway than the bratty sister But still I'm into Ruby and Aqua route eventho It won't happened knowing the ending xD
I will not take any Oreimo slander, so much fun from start to end and has one of the best plot twists in anime sphere. that's why it's one of my favorites.
The real reason for the popularity of incest in pop culture stuff such as anime , movies and tv shows , regardless of the country is that , in old times there was a strong notion of keeping the family bloodline pure specially for rich and powerful. The only way to do that was by marrying in the family. Today it can be frowned because of the knowledge that we have that kids out of incest will have deformities , due to our scientific advancements. It is still common around in the world to marry distant relatives ( 1st or 2nd cousins ) . Yeah incest is weird to us but not to everyone specially if it is not direct blood siblings 😂. P.S: Does anyone here knows who Oedipus is😂?
Forbidden Yuri: 😮 Though more tame than the preferred ending of Oshi No Ko with Aqua and Ruby which I say is a crime, even with the context of before the reincarnation. Still just as terrible…
Ironically the MC of Oreimo had a girlfriend(not his sister), something most anime MCs never accomplished. He pulled a proper dates and man up most of the time. The problem why it is hated is because the writing of the anime is confusing (cant decide if incest or not). In the anime sphere it is quite enjoyable one since there is an actual progression compared to other incest bait anime that shoves your sister and just leave it like that Most of these "incest" anime are just bait most of the time for fanservice. Why? It sells. Also I've played multiple eroge during my younger days. Most of them have sister or sister-like route, and the writing/plot progression is mostly the same especially on handling the taboo .There's no innovation to this genre whatsoever. This is why there are real wincest ending very rare because its hard to pull off without repeating the same plot lines their predecesors did. So these are just baits.
Bro forgot one of the kings of incest anime: Mahouka. One of the best selling light novels that's still continuing to this day. Interesting point the anime brings up: Due to advancements in gene editing, the bro sis duo will not produce inbred children. Thus, is it still immoral for them to be lovers? Also, if making inbred babies is what incest immoral, what about gay incest? Or siblings with vasectomies? As technology progresses, the biological argument for incest is getting weaker and weaker. I think the power dynamics argument for bro/sis incest is still viable though, since the purpose of the law is to protect the majority, and that it is quite difficult to find an incestual relationship without imbalanced power dynamics. But still, its not like we have the data to back this up since incest is illegal and noone will want to out themselves. Personally, I think the immorality of incest can only be attributed to evolutionary, cultural, and religious reasons. Which is fine if you're okay with following society's rules or religion. But for people who put reason over everything else, it's a problem they have to figure out or they must accept that either they agree incest is okay, their moral axioms are flawed, or that saying incest is evil has as much weight as saying incest is disgusting just like how insects are disgusting, which is the evolutionary argument.
I downloaded twitch yesterday and mede an account. When I visited cawcaw's channel, I can't see anything. Any Posts, any videos, nothing. Is it normal or is there something wrong about my account? I really don't know what happening. Also could anyone tell me what the live schedule is? 😶🍿
I don't know this video is comedic or not but in regard to these topic include kid and stuff most people just use too much emotion and bias we learn growing up in society to discuss about it that way almost all of counter point we provide in these arguement coming from lack of information or simply lack the good logical point to stand on not to mention from our perspective we don't try to empathize with other side at all. For example you fail to understand why there is the jump in logic that many sole child yern for sibling but suddenly have sexual tone in it but is that really strange? I mean this kind of question happen alot in friend group conversation. The next question come to naturally is what kind of sibling you want? Most men will answer...everyone can image. So if children is problem in incest does incest okay if we remove that from the equation? That kind of flow we should see in these conversation not just bashing head and say something good or bad. Well many scientist already try to figure out this topic for long time but it alway halt by this kind of illinform sentiment and we come to this kind of world where people will alway virtue signal but know nothing of what virtue is. Sorry for the rant and grammar english isn't my forte
Yosuga No Sora is the best wincest anime let's be real. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Couldn't agree more
Peak Yosuga no Sora
The mc is voiced by Hiro Shimono, who voices Zenitsu from Demon Slayer and Dabi from MHA. It's one of his early notable roles, so i always remember this fact when the show is mentioned, lol.
In defense of Oreimo, is quite interesting anime that dives into Otaku culture instead of incest. S1 was actually and introduce a lot how otaku culture work. It just infortunate how it turns out to be in s2. Oreimo is like the incest bait anime that turn out to be not a bait.
Yosuga no sora is peak 😭😭😭
30+ year old weeb here, I experienced the Oreimo boom first hand.
I do remember for this show in the beginning they tried to make it as it looks like the siblings have a healthy relationship, while sprinkling it with bait here and there.
Heck, bro even dated a popular gothic chick in the story for a whole season I recall.
The anime is actually quite good for the first two seasons, it's really in the end the author decided to go the hardcore incest route, or else it's really a fine show imo.
siscon = culture (in japan)
There is a reason why we call it wincest.
Peak anime culture
23:32 Most of the fandom just pretends that they’re not there 😭🙏
As a girl
I need to put this out there that a lot of shoujo and slice of life animes are actually made with guys in mind rather than girls and a lot of girls dislike stuff like incests and harems
We should also remember the hidden gem that was Kiss x Sis
The thing is I don’t think it’s just Japan. If you look at the most popular “tag” search’s all across the world it’s fairly common. Even a bunch of US states have 1ncest as the number one PH search. It seems these types of fantasies are popular all over the world. I think it’s just as the one comment said, sexuality in media is just more widely excepted in Japan. So they end up with more pornographic themes in non pornographic content. Now for why people have these fantasies in the first place…. I believe Freud had some interesting ideas regarding this topic 😂
Oreimo is unironically good. Not the kind of good in a funny way, or so bad it's good. It's just a masterpiece.
Bro as someone who’s first 3 anime was Lucky Star, into Rent A Girlfriend, into Interspecies Reviewers, I can happily say I have never watched oriemio thank god 😫
😂😂 Oreimo have the most craziest doujinshi out there.
I can't say I hate all tsunderes because there are some tsundere girls that are really enjoyable like Mai from Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny girl Senpai
Shinto mythology legit have family loving each other like greek mythology lol
Reminded me of an eroge called "imouto paradise". Just a man with his 5 sisters? It's enough to have four titles in the series. The previous title's MC kids are your new character casts each time.
Then there's also "Brother Conflicts", an otoge about a girl who moves in with her 12 new step brothers. It already has an anime and yes it's reverse harem.
7:58
I would argue the annoying one is the abusive tsundere who regularly punches her crush.
Tohsaka Rin is clearly a tsundere, yet many people like her. Why? Because she doesn't constantly punch Shirou. Rin is the perfect example of tsundere done right.
Violent tsunderes were popular because they were violent. You don't dictate what's right or wrong.
What does done right mean? Violent ones were popular because people liked them
Japan lore goes hard 🗿
30:40 The thing with the joke about Alabama and incest is that it's not even based in reality. I've searched the stats once, and the number of incestual marriage was 0.3 or 0.03% I'm not sure which, compared to most countries, this was basically minuscule. The highest country was Pakistan with 60%, which is crazy when you think about it
I was actually into Oreimo knowing the alabama stuff until I got spoiled that the goth girl straight up got rejected by the mc
Like come on, the goth girl is better in everyway than the bratty sister
But still I'm into Ruby and Aqua route eventho It won't happened knowing the ending xD
13:54 I think Ouran Highschool Host Club got the closest to Brother x Brother
I will not take any Oreimo slander, so much fun from start to end and has one of the best plot twists in anime sphere. that's why it's one of my favorites.
37:13 😂😂😂 WTF! That's so damn funny
They talking about sibling lover(incest) and yet they include Junichiro Tanizaki and Naomi from BSD 😂😂 they're not even sibling
The real reason for the popularity of incest in pop culture stuff such as anime , movies and tv shows , regardless of the country is that , in old times there was a strong notion of keeping the family bloodline pure specially for rich and powerful. The only way to do that was by marrying in the family. Today it can be frowned because of the knowledge that we have that kids out of incest will have deformities , due to our scientific advancements. It is still common around in the world to marry distant relatives ( 1st or 2nd cousins ) . Yeah incest is weird to us but not to everyone specially if it is not direct blood siblings 😂.
P.S: Does anyone here knows who Oedipus is😂?
Blaming the deformed kid on the mom is like parents blaming kids getting a fever on phone.
The Japanese myth is too crazy 🥲😪
Sister x sister
Let's goooooooo 🗿🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Forbidden Yuri: 😮
Though more tame than the preferred ending of Oshi No Ko with Aqua and Ruby which I say is a crime, even with the context of before the reincarnation. Still just as terrible…
Not really the same as you guys were talking about but there is the twins in Ouran Host Club.
Ironically the MC of Oreimo had a girlfriend(not his sister), something most anime MCs never accomplished. He pulled a proper dates and man up most of the time. The problem why it is hated is because the writing of the anime is confusing (cant decide if incest or not). In the anime sphere it is quite enjoyable one since there is an actual progression compared to other incest bait anime that shoves your sister and just leave it like that
Most of these "incest" anime are just bait most of the time for fanservice. Why? It sells. Also I've played multiple eroge during my younger days. Most of them have sister or sister-like route, and the writing/plot progression is mostly the same especially on handling the taboo .There's no innovation to this genre whatsoever.
This is why there are real wincest ending very rare because its hard to pull off without repeating the same plot lines their predecesors did. So these are just baits.
Even shojo step brother (half brother?) reverse harems exist I forgot which one, brothers conflict or something I think
Yosura no soga is better. My sister agrees as well
sisterfucker24 is that you?
And overflow?
Ahem overflow isn't actually incest @@ARandomGuyN
How do we make caw react to yosuga no sora?
The isekai about the guy's OP mom. Well one scene was just very weird in that series
29:14 Super Lover lol
Bro forgot one of the kings of incest anime: Mahouka. One of the best selling light novels that's still continuing to this day.
Interesting point the anime brings up: Due to advancements in gene editing, the bro sis duo will not produce inbred children. Thus, is it still immoral for them to be lovers? Also, if making inbred babies is what incest immoral, what about gay incest? Or siblings with vasectomies?
As technology progresses, the biological argument for incest is getting weaker and weaker.
I think the power dynamics argument for bro/sis incest is still viable though, since the purpose of the law is to protect the majority, and that it is quite difficult to find an incestual relationship without imbalanced power dynamics. But still, its not like we have the data to back this up since incest is illegal and noone will want to out themselves.
Personally, I think the immorality of incest can only be attributed to evolutionary, cultural, and religious reasons.
Which is fine if you're okay with following society's rules or religion. But for people who put reason over everything else, it's a problem they have to figure out or they must accept that either they agree incest is okay, their moral axioms are flawed, or that saying incest is evil has as much weight as saying incest is disgusting just like how insects are disgusting, which is the evolutionary argument.
i swear to god, if more authors stopped using the "average mc" template we'd have so many better stories.
In Oreimo VN revealed that they are not siblings but cousin
Still kinda incest
but yeah, Japan admit cousin marriage
I downloaded twitch yesterday and mede an account. When I visited cawcaw's channel, I can't see anything. Any Posts, any videos, nothing. Is it normal or is there something wrong about my account? I really don't know what happening.
Also could anyone tell me what the live schedule is? 😶🍿
There are no schedule, he just stream whenever
Nice ❤
I don't know this video is comedic or not but in regard to these topic include kid and stuff most people just use too much emotion and bias we learn growing up in society to discuss about it that way almost all of counter point we provide in these arguement coming from lack of information or simply lack the good logical point to stand on not to mention from our perspective we don't try to empathize with other side at all. For example you fail to understand why there is the jump in logic that many sole child yern for sibling but suddenly have sexual tone in it but is that really strange? I mean this kind of question happen alot in friend group conversation. The next question come to naturally is what kind of sibling you want? Most men will answer...everyone can image. So if children is problem in incest does incest okay if we remove that from the equation? That kind of flow we should see in these conversation not just bashing head and say something good or bad. Well many scientist already try to figure out this topic for long time but it alway halt by this kind of illinform sentiment and we come to this kind of world where people will alway virtue signal but know nothing of what virtue is. Sorry for the rant and grammar english isn't my forte