Subjects needing some additional clarification. Information on the path, distance, diameter and flowrate of the water from the cistern. Description and diagrams of original pumps.
The whole thing would be useless without the water source. Exactly where is it and how did the get enough head to pump it all the way to the top of the wheel? Was that source dependable? More info, please. If I'd have made this video, I'd have started at the beginning, eg: "where does the water come from?"
I was on the IOM in 2014 and had a look at the wheel, it is a fantastic thing to see and climb on. I think you should have another look at the video and you can see how it works.
The Wikipedia article isn't great but somewhere nearby there is a cistern with an outlet that is only slightly higher than the outlet conduit at the wheel. I agree that the drone should have flown over the entire site to show the location of the cistern.
Feine historische Anlage. Habe ich deutlich kleiner hier in Deutschland bis jetzt nur in Bad Kösen an der Saale gesehen. Schön das sie erhalten bleibt. Danke für das Video.
Beautiful video, but doesn't answer where the water comes from to power the wheel. Apparently an underground aqueduct from somewhere higher, feeding into the white column?
@@carlbethea1098 🇫🇷 Bonjour et merci pour ces jolies images ! Je ne connaissais pas cette installation, magnifique. Pour mieux comprendre, fort simplement d’où arrive la force motrice, en plus de vos explications ci-dessus, j’ai trouvé cette petite animation. ua-cam.com/video/-7CtQI0ldQE/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared Merci et bonne continuation. M
The entire industrial revolution began when a steam engine was used to pump the water from a mine in N England. It's amazing to see how elaborate solutions were to solve the same problem before steam engines.
@@the_retagThis wheel is in its original location. The wheel from the Snaefell mine is now in The Washing Floors down near the main A2 road. The link described in the video as an extended crankshaft should surely be called the connecting rod. The crankshaft is the axle of the wheel as it’s the shaft that carries the crank.
The pumps are at the bottom of the mine. I don’t think they were ever taken out and now the mine flooded so they’ll probably never get moved. The wheel was built to drive the pumps so of course they’re part of the system.
Nice video , but leaves questions unanswered about where does the water to drive it comes from ? The explanation of the mechanical working is superficial...is this construction still in use ? or is it just a tourist attraction now ?. Quit an ingenious construction through ...
"The water comes from the hills above the wheel" only states the obvious and will not address the real question. How does the water come from the hills to the wheel? Obviously through some kind of culver or pipe. How was that made? Is it running inside the support for the beam? Is that also acting as an aqueduct? How can it withstand the obviously very substantial water pressure at the bottom before reaching the wheel? The construction reminds of something we had in Sweden in the 17:th century called "stånggång" , english translation would be something like bar gangway. It was a system of connected bars used to transfer power over sometimes substantial distances between a water wheel and a mine for evacuating water. Many of them were constructed by the father of swedish mechanics, Christofer Polhem.
I think this come under the heading of insane genius! Lot of trouble to go to just to avoid buying a steam pump! (The very first steam engines were built for this very purpose, to pump water out of a mine). It is amazing and ridiculous at the same time and probably cost ten times what a steam pump would have. But then, it ran pumps on three different levels, so that would take a lot of torque, but, DA -UM ! Oh, yeah! Where is the water to turn the big wheel coming from, we all want to know!
According to Wikipedia this large water wheel was built because the island has no indigenous coal to power a steam engine. To burn coal requires a coal handling facility from the quay to the engine site plus coal creates ash which must also be disposed. Back then the ash could have been dumped in the river but even that might build up over time enough to cause the river to overflow its banks which could cause flooding that the company might have been compelled to ameliorate. Apparently this was the less expensive method to power pumps to drain the mine.
@@fredwood1490 Most UA-camrs are little more than tourists. Delving into history in order to present a whole story isn't their cup of tea. Quite a few UA-camrs aren't really interested in technical details either. They like to show old technology but they have no appreciation for the underlying physics, thermodynamics or material science that was necessary to create the machine.
@@curtislowe4577 In this case, that would be me. Tourist is exactly the right term too. You tube is a vast encyclopedia and I have always enjoyed surfing through encyclopedias and huge dictionaries, history books and popular science journals, getting a keyhole view of exotic things but, I do follow up, sometimes, if an article hints at something deeper. In this case, the Wheel itself was all they were interested in so that was the entire exploration. Can you imagine the maintenance on that linkage, it must be at least a mile long! Still and all, the supply train for than pump system could just as easily have accommodated a coal train of barges up that little river, or a wood train for that matter, from the surrounding area, much like the train that brought all that iron into the place in the first place. Of course, you are right, if it had been economically feasible, they would have done it that way. On the other hand, a few years later and there would have been electricity for use in the mine, needing a much smaller wheel for generation and little of the mechanical system. But that was not to be. So, being a tourist on the Information Highway does have some uses.
All that work to build that wheel and all associated infrastructure. Would have been easier to build a combustion engine ! (And to think, they were invented just a few years after this was built.)
Engineers solving a problem that made a few rich and transfered a far worse problem onto the unsuspecting community. Technology and engineers have a lot to answer for. Dont rely on vague promises that technology will solve global warming. .. something else .. worse .. will be the cost.
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Excellent documentary. That is a beautiful countryside. I was unaware of the massive water wheel, pumps and the mines.
Subjects needing some additional clarification. Information on the path, distance, diameter and flowrate of the water from the cistern. Description and diagrams of original pumps.
The whole thing would be useless without the water source. Exactly where is it and how did the get enough head to pump it all the way to the top of the wheel? Was that source dependable? More info, please. If I'd have made this video, I'd have started at the beginning, eg: "where does the water come from?"
The water comes from the hills around the wheel.
exactly. kinda the most important thing to explain in " how it works"
I was on the IOM in 2014 and had a look at the wheel, it is a fantastic thing to see and climb on. I think you should have another look at the video and you can see how it works.
The Wikipedia article isn't great but somewhere nearby there is a cistern with an outlet that is only slightly higher than the outlet conduit at the wheel. I agree that the drone should have flown over the entire site to show the location of the cistern.
You can make a video and post it,
This is your chance to shine
Feine historische Anlage. Habe ich deutlich kleiner hier in Deutschland bis jetzt nur in Bad Kösen an der Saale gesehen. Schön das sie erhalten bleibt. Danke für das Video.
Beautiful video, but doesn't answer where the water comes from to power the wheel. Apparently an underground aqueduct from somewhere higher, feeding into the white column?
They collected the water from the nearby hills and piped it down to the wheel.
@@carlbethea1098
🇫🇷 Bonjour et merci pour ces jolies images !
Je ne connaissais pas cette installation, magnifique.
Pour mieux comprendre, fort simplement d’où arrive la force motrice, en plus de vos explications ci-dessus, j’ai trouvé cette petite animation.
ua-cam.com/video/-7CtQI0ldQE/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Merci et bonne continuation.
M
Nice pictures thank you cheer's bob.
Excellent video with great music. Do you know where I can a recording of the music?
I haven't been on-line in a while. The music came with my video editor, Pinnacle Studio 22.
@@carlbethea1098 Thanks. Really gets the foot tapping.
The entire industrial revolution began when a steam engine was used to pump the water from a mine in N England. It's amazing to see how elaborate solutions were to solve the same problem before steam engines.
Great video. What happened to the pumps and how do they know they were part of the system?
Afaik The wheel was relocated. It originally came from sneafell mine near laxey
@@the_retagThis wheel is in its original location. The wheel from the Snaefell mine is now in The Washing Floors down near the main A2 road.
The link described in the video as an extended crankshaft should surely be called the connecting rod. The crankshaft is the axle of the wheel as it’s the shaft that carries the crank.
The pumps are at the bottom of the mine. I don’t think they were ever taken out and now the mine flooded so they’ll probably never get moved.
The wheel was built to drive the pumps so of course they’re part of the system.
My kids and I just read about this in a book about wheels. It was awesome to see what it actually looks like.
what a fascinating machine.
Nice video , but leaves questions unanswered about where does the water to drive it comes from ? The explanation of the mechanical working is superficial...is this construction still in use ? or is it just a tourist attraction now ?.
Quit an ingenious construction through ...
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@@Jp-hv9zj No: Those features should have been dealt with in the video.
The water comes from the hills around the wheel.
@@jandoerlidoe3412 lighten up Francis!
"The water comes from the hills above the wheel" only states the obvious and will not address the real question. How does the water come from the hills to the wheel? Obviously through some kind of culver or pipe. How was that made? Is it running inside the support for the beam? Is that also acting as an aqueduct? How can it withstand the obviously very substantial water pressure at the bottom before reaching the wheel? The construction reminds of something we had in Sweden in the 17:th century called "stånggång" , english translation would be something like bar gangway. It was a system of connected bars used to transfer power over sometimes substantial distances between a water wheel and a mine for evacuating water. Many of them were constructed by the father of swedish mechanics, Christofer Polhem.
I think this come under the heading of insane genius! Lot of trouble to go to just to avoid buying a steam pump! (The very first steam engines were built for this very purpose, to pump water out of a mine). It is amazing and ridiculous at the same time and probably cost ten times what a steam pump would have. But then, it ran pumps on three different levels, so that would take a lot of torque, but, DA -UM ! Oh, yeah! Where is the water to turn the big wheel coming from, we all want to know!
The water comes from the hills around the wheel.
According to Wikipedia this large water wheel was built because the island has no indigenous coal to power a steam engine. To burn coal requires a coal handling facility from the quay to the engine site plus coal creates ash which must also be disposed. Back then the ash could have been dumped in the river but even that might build up over time enough to cause the river to overflow its banks which could cause flooding that the company might have been compelled to ameliorate. Apparently this was the less expensive method to power pumps to drain the mine.
@@curtislowe4577 Thank you! they might have told the WHOLE story!
@@fredwood1490 Most UA-camrs are little more than tourists. Delving into history in order to present a whole story isn't their cup of tea. Quite a few UA-camrs aren't really interested in technical details either. They like to show old technology but they have no appreciation for the underlying physics, thermodynamics or material science that was necessary to create the machine.
@@curtislowe4577 In this case, that would be me. Tourist is exactly the right term too. You tube is a vast encyclopedia and I have always enjoyed surfing through encyclopedias and huge dictionaries, history books and popular science journals, getting a keyhole view of exotic things but, I do follow up, sometimes, if an article hints at something deeper. In this case, the Wheel itself was all they were interested in so that was the entire exploration. Can you imagine the maintenance on that linkage, it must be at least a mile long!
Still and all, the supply train for than pump system could just as easily have accommodated a coal train of barges up that little river, or a wood train for that matter, from the surrounding area, much like the train that brought all that iron into the place in the first place.
Of course, you are right, if it had been economically feasible, they would have done it that way. On the other hand, a few years later and there would have been electricity for use in the mine, needing a much smaller wheel for generation and little of the mechanical system. But that was not to be.
So, being a tourist on the Information Highway does have some uses.
I whas there 1979.
+1000 production
Really there's actually GIANT MICE that run round inside the hub.....
All that work to build that wheel and all associated infrastructure. Would have been easier to build a combustion engine ! (And to think, they were invented just a few years after this was built.)
Engineers solving a problem that made a few rich and transfered a far worse problem onto the unsuspecting community. Technology and engineers have a lot to answer for. Dont rely on vague promises that technology will solve global warming. .. something else .. worse .. will be the cost.
The mine water polluted the river with an assortment of heavy metals.
the most stupid invention i've seen
The most stupid UA-cam comment I’ve seen.
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