Weird motorcycle - BRILLIANT INVENTION! “The handling of this bike was close to telepathy…”

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  • @GrampsD63
    @GrampsD63 10 місяців тому +118

    I used to ride in a group with Dan, Danny Jr, Kevin Erion and some of the guys from AAR and also HRC in Torrance. I'll tell ya that old man was hard to keep up with on that Alligator out on Ortega Hwy even on the full sport bikes we all had. It was amazing the cornering speeds he could carry on that bike. Plus when we stopped he had some great stories. RIP DG

  • @arthurminiear2904
    @arthurminiear2904 10 місяців тому +89

    I never knew this existed, but I've always liked my cruiser bikes to feel like I was part of the bike, rather than just sitting on top of it. Definitely looks like it would be comfortable, and relaxed to ride.

    • @raymondo162
      @raymondo162 9 місяців тому +2

      scrunched-up seating position wouldn't work for me. can't really stretch your legs on the move.........

    • @eonreeves4324
      @eonreeves4324 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@raymondo162it needs to be like a feet forward bike

    • @eyeballs50
      @eyeballs50 9 місяців тому +1

      comfortable? the rider looks folded up like an accordian

    • @JokerInk-CustomBuilds
      @JokerInk-CustomBuilds 6 місяців тому

      I have a honda PC800 touring bike and a Suzuki Intruder VS700 Chopper with apes and foreward footcontrols.
      I have allway been thinking about a mix between the two, with full fairings and the touring bike characteristics while also having a real low seat hight and extended arm position... I would feel like I was holding on to a cruisemissile! :D
      -I'd buy an AAR Alligator in a heartbeat if it had a trunk like my pc800 or even just side boxes! :D

  • @philmuskett265
    @philmuskett265 10 місяців тому +34

    That's an astonishing bike. Certainly deserves maybe even more development by one of the big motorcycle manufacturers.

    • @jeremiahshields7827
      @jeremiahshields7827 9 місяців тому +1

      Oh it's coming, they'll all start making a style like this, even electric ones.

    • @jordanmntungwa3311
      @jordanmntungwa3311 9 місяців тому

      We will finally ride a bike like Akira@@jeremiahshields7827

    • @jellomaster5629
      @jellomaster5629 9 місяців тому +1

      Look up the Honda NM4 if you haven't already

  • @67scout73
    @67scout73 9 місяців тому +7

    Finally, a recumbent motorcycle.

  • @custombikesandtrikes4374
    @custombikesandtrikes4374 10 місяців тому +58

    I have built several recumbent motorcycles. Some of my builds are almost 9 ft. I think if he would have stretched it out just a few more inches had the seat laid back a smidge more and brought the handlebars back to the rider it would have been more comfortable to ride. He was one of my inspirations for when I was first starting building recumbent motorcycles.

    • @proudtitanicdenier4300
      @proudtitanicdenier4300 10 місяців тому +2

      Such a ridiculously long wheelbase would be useless on a track

    • @custombikesandtrikes4374
      @custombikesandtrikes4374 10 місяців тому +2

      @@proudtitanicdenier4300 True, I don't think he developed it to be a track only toy, seeing how it was fully street legal and he was trying to mass-produce them.

    • @kamenwaticlients
      @kamenwaticlients 10 місяців тому +4

      Agreed. That setup you describe sounds similar to the Rohorn Racer.

    • @pnblondon1087
      @pnblondon1087 10 місяців тому +5

      @@proudtitanicdenier4300 Complete bollocks. Dan tested several Alligators on track with Eddie Lawson! Also, having ridden two Alligators, and many other FFs with much longer wheelbases (including both Ecomobiles and Monotracers at the Brno GP circuit I can say with certainty that you are utterly mistaken!

    • @proudtitanicdenier4300
      @proudtitanicdenier4300 10 місяців тому

      @@pnblondon1087 what lap times did you get

  • @homeontherange733
    @homeontherange733 10 місяців тому +11

    Craig Vetter had a fuel economy challenge some years ago where they rode across country and the winner was the one that got the best mpg! Almost all of them was designed low like this one. Craig had a low tech formula for high mpg. Aerodynamics + 125 - 250cc four stroke single cylinder+ tall gearing. " It doesn't use fuel until the piston goes bang"!

    • @tonylawson9319
      @tonylawson9319 10 місяців тому

      Yes indeed, The AMA used to have the vetter challenge at Laguna Seca AMA races.

    • @homeontherange733
      @homeontherange733 10 місяців тому

      @@tonylawson9319 I would have liked to participate in that race.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 10 місяців тому +26

    Four-time 500cc GP World Champion Eddie Lawson owns an A6 Alligator, chassis #21, in the Eagle blue and white livery. In 2018, Eddie rode his Gator with us over the backroads of Monterey County, and I had him following me over the super bumpy Carmel Valley Rd…until he finally wicked it up and disappeared in the distance!

    • @GrampsD63
      @GrampsD63 10 місяців тому +3

      Back in the day I used to ride in a group with Dan. NOBODY could hang with that old man out on Ortega Hwy.

    • @Zooom-s5f
      @Zooom-s5f 9 місяців тому

      Bullshit story

    • @GrampsD63
      @GrampsD63 9 місяців тому

      @@Zooom-s5f Which one?

    • @Zooom-s5f
      @Zooom-s5f 9 місяців тому +1

      @@GrampsD63 from Ricky

    • @GrampsD63
      @GrampsD63 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Zooom-s5f I know Eddie had one though

  • @nong333
    @nong333 10 місяців тому +16

    All throughout the video, I was thinking the design looked familiar and it only hit me in the end. I'm wondering now if Kaneda's bike from the cult classic Akira took inspiration from this since they share a very similar design.

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому +2

      Otomo - the author of "Akira" manga, said he was inspired by Syd Mead's work, especially the tron light cycle. You might be interested in my Akira Bike Project - building a fully functional full size recumbent aesthetically inspired by Kanedas ride but taking full advantage of what the platform has to offer.

    • @henryvirgil8188
      @henryvirgil8188 10 місяців тому

      The Takeaway : I was just thinking the same thing.

    • @gricogary5772
      @gricogary5772 9 місяців тому

      Dude your not alone 😂😂😂

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub 10 місяців тому +38

    Mr. Gurney was a real example of excellence. I always hoped that this motorcycle would come to become a regular-production machine.

  • @ForeverYoungAaron
    @ForeverYoungAaron 9 місяців тому +6

    Reminds me a LOT of the Honda Helix! I remember being shocked at how long the wheelbase was and how odd the whole thing was until I took it out for a ride. Actually handled really well and was a blast on backroads. Not to mention comfortable

  • @stephendouglas714
    @stephendouglas714 10 місяців тому +80

    I wouldn't want to give up the higher visibility over standard sedans just for that lower center of gravity.

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому +6

      You could add impact protection in a recumbent and get similar protection for frontal collisions to that of a small car, though with the leaned forward position in Gurney's alligator that would be hard to do. I'm building a proper leaning back full size recumbent, check out my project if interested.

    • @indian.techsupport
      @indian.techsupport 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@matus1976even if it had an air bag, no motorcycke frame can be strong enough to not completely crush on impact

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому +10

      @@indian.techsupport that's not true, these kinds of forces are easy for steel to handle. Look at high speed roll cage crashes of rally cars. The three wheeled carver had a short wheelbase and BMW did frontal impact crash tests on it - and it performed as well as a small car. Heck I tboned a car doing 30mph+ on my vstrom and only the front fork was hosed, the frame was fine. You can design a frame so that it has intended weak spots and those collapse, while the primary segments around the rider remain rigid and intact. It's even easier to do this on a recumbent since you have more length to work with and your primary safety mechanism isn't "throw the person head and neck first into an SUV at 30+ mph"

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 10 місяців тому +1

      @@indian.techsupport check out the crash testing of the BMW C1. 🙄

    • @rugershooter5268
      @rugershooter5268 10 місяців тому

      good point

  • @bunukalashrestha9575
    @bunukalashrestha9575 9 місяців тому +5

    As a short person myself, I think it's really amazing to reach the ground with both feet while also being able to ride a bike with a large-diameter wheel......but I think the handle is too high for the person down to the ground..... Akira bike design is pretty cool

  • @jfu5222
    @jfu5222 10 місяців тому +8

    The 1953 Norton Kneeler seem like a better way to lower the CG. I couldn't just sit on the Gurney Alligator and take the punishment to my spine, then again my knees wouldn't be too happy after a couple of hours on the Norton! Visibility is the main drawback, seeing and being seen, we all know the consequences of poor visibility. I'm a skinny old man and still ride a sport bike. With knee and shoulder injuries, spreading out my weight seems like the most efficient way to keep riding.

    • @pashakdescilly7517
      @pashakdescilly7517 10 місяців тому +1

      The Kneeler Norton is restored and running, in the Sammy Miller Museum in SW England. It would be interesting to hear from him what it is like to ride.
      Note to self, a return visit to that museum is long overdue.

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому +1

      Agreed. The riding position of Gurney's alligator is by far the biggest flaw imo. Why make a bike like that but hunch over forward? I'm building a full size fully functional rear engined recumbent with a proper reclined seating position, taking full advantage of the comfort and performance the platform has to offer. Check out my cx500 powered prototype if interested.

    • @timh6845
      @timh6845 10 місяців тому +2

      You could have a naked cheerleader firing a flame thrower on the back of your bike and some idiot in a car still won’t see you.

    • @Shawn-os2kc
      @Shawn-os2kc 9 місяців тому

      Actually you would be very very comfortable on the Gator. I rode mine from Atlanta to CA with no back, knee issues.

  • @PerdixDesignLtd
    @PerdixDesignLtd 10 місяців тому +2

    See also Quasar, Voyager - both pre-dating the Alligator. This fact takes nothing away from Gurney and his achievements, but serves as a reminder to fact check what the internet tells us 😎

    • @wierdbike
      @wierdbike  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, knows that, buuuut… Alligator is the most charismatic bike i think!☺️

  • @iainsmith6643
    @iainsmith6643 10 місяців тому +5

    I keep thinking of the Quasar from the 1970's or th monotracer.

  • @davidroeder7299
    @davidroeder7299 10 місяців тому +3

    Getting 70+hp out of an xr650l motor is a stunning achievement on its own.

  • @ChuckChuckBoBuck
    @ChuckChuckBoBuck 10 місяців тому +10

    Ever since I discovered the Gurney Alligator motorcycles I've thought it would be could to build a similar chassis for a sport touring type bike built from a 2nd generation Yamaha VMax. In all the time I've pondered the thought of what if, I've yet to see how this could be a bad idea.

    • @68BigSherm
      @68BigSherm 9 місяців тому +1

      It’s pretty easy to make one from a 650 Suzuki Burgman.
      They’ll go a little over 100mph.
      I’ve done it, and it’s a blast to ride.

  • @bobbarron6969
    @bobbarron6969 9 місяців тому +1

    It looks like Eric Buell learned a thing or two from Mr. Gurney.

  • @raybrensike42
    @raybrensike42 9 місяців тому +2

    This is what we need. So much of handling on a motorcycle is all about low center of gravity, and if you can do that and make it comfortable, well that's about it. I believe there is some benefit for the ride in making it with a longer wheelbase also.

  • @stevehammel2939
    @stevehammel2939 10 місяців тому +4

    Would like to see a recumbent sport bike with light weight wheels and powerful inline four for riding twisties.

  • @Rose_Butterfly98
    @Rose_Butterfly98 10 місяців тому +6

    You said there hasn't been a bike like it since but Honda made the nm4 in 2014

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 10 місяців тому

      And the DN-01 before that.

    • @phantomcruizer
      @phantomcruizer 9 місяців тому +1

      Suzuki “G Strider” concept bike.

  • @dennisgauck7526
    @dennisgauck7526 11 днів тому

    Those should be in production. it's a perfect commuter and light touring bike ,canyon carver,you name it! Stick with the 500-650cc motors, and it could make a huge impact. If nothing else, sell a frame kit for those who want to roll their own!

  • @tonymarkey6525
    @tonymarkey6525 2 місяці тому +1

    Common sense when you look at it I suppose. Far more aerodynamic and lowered centre of gravity.
    Very clever.

  • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
    @ChroniclesofKToyoda 9 місяців тому +1

    This guy helped fine time the handling of my car too, every time I hear about him it's always something new & impressive like this

  • @j.thomas7128
    @j.thomas7128 9 місяців тому

    When a motorcycle has a one-night stand with a SCOOTER.... this is the offspring.

  • @johncahill3644
    @johncahill3644 10 місяців тому +7

    Good video. One minor suggestion, I think you’d have been more on point to compare Dan Gurney to Jim Hall and Jack Brabham, who were also successful drivers, engineers and developed their own brands of racing car.

    • @kmoecub
      @kmoecub 10 місяців тому

      Agreed.

    • @bunkie2100
      @bunkie2100 9 місяців тому

      I was thinking the same thing. To that list I would add Bruce McLaren. Racing used to be really great before all the cars began to be designed, essentially, by the committees running the races rather than the racing teams themselves.

  • @skylinegtr4045
    @skylinegtr4045 9 місяців тому +1

    Paint it red and add a few bits and you basically have the akira motorcycle!

  • @orinhickman1721
    @orinhickman1721 6 місяців тому +1

    Lookes like it would make a great electric motorcycle.

  • @phantomcruizer
    @phantomcruizer 9 місяців тому +1

    What amazes me is that none of the custom motorcycle builders on 90’s, and beyond, cable TV shows, never made anything like a recumbent style motorcycle!.
    lack of imagination l guess .
    BTW check out the Honda NM4 (now out of production), and Suzuki’s “G Strider” concept.

  • @mistermusik
    @mistermusik 9 місяців тому

    I want an Alligator. The “sport” aspect of it doesn’t concern me. It just looks like it would be a very comfortable commuter.

  • @chrislaws4785
    @chrislaws4785 10 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, i dont see why MORE bikes arent like this to begin with. Most bikes you feel like your going to slide off them when speeding up. So it would be REALLY comfortable to be able to just relax on one. But i have to admit, this thing is probably UNCOMFORTABLE as all hell on long rides. But you COULD bid on one today and get it for about $17,000 or more.

    • @2006Whippet
      @2006Whippet 10 місяців тому

      I've never felt like I was going to slide off of any motorcycle I've ridden.
      I can see a major disadvantage to this design. Visibility for both the rider and car drivers. It looks like your head is on level with most car hoods, which will make it harder for people to see you and harder for you to see over/around other vehicles. That is a huge safety issue that trumps any advantage the design may have.

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому

      You'd probably be interested then in my Akira Bike Project - building a fully functional high performance recumbent designed from the ground up to take full advantage of the platform. It has a nice reclined seating position too, not the weird hunched forward but sitting low one in the Alligator. Check out my youtube channel

    • @Shawn-os2kc
      @Shawn-os2kc 9 місяців тому

      Chris, I would have to say you are wrong. The position of the seating on a Gator is based on a 911 Porsch. I rode my from Atlanta to CA and have done 3 Iron Butts.

  • @ElTyranto
    @ElTyranto 9 місяців тому +1

    So basically it's the Honda Helix seating position. No wonder everyone liked it.

  • @michaeldesilvio221
    @michaeldesilvio221 9 місяців тому +1

    This is just what I've been looking for.

  • @AxelBergander
    @AxelBergander 10 місяців тому +3

    Low Center of gravity, that handles well. As any cruiser can confirm … wait!

    • @pnblondon1087
      @pnblondon1087 10 місяців тому +2

      Most cruisers have the wrong geometry for good handling. Low CofG is great.

  • @oldschoolman1444
    @oldschoolman1444 10 місяців тому +4

    The hump on top of the GT40 is known as the Gurney bubble.

  • @parsonscarlson7984
    @parsonscarlson7984 9 місяців тому

    Heard about this bike years ago, but never found out what happened to it. Thanks for the closure Weirdbike. As a modern hi-perf scooter owner, I see some advantages in the Gurney machine and at least one disadvantage. First the advantages. The power to weight ratio is far better than any of the modern hi-perf offerings and top end output much better. The lack of full body enclosure would make working on the Alligator MUCH easier as opposed to having to remove numerous body panels even to do minor maintenance. The low center of gravity would certainly help in the handling dept. and the comments below attest to this. Disadvantage: Only one that I can tell from the video; a locked-in-one-position seating posture. My 2013 Kymco Xciting 500 Ri scooter is guilty of the latter, and I can't stretch out enuff for comfort ( I'm just under 6'). I'm currently considering another brand hi-perf scooter, and if anyone knows about a late model Gilera GP 800 with moderate mileage for sale, send me an email.

  • @thomasheer825
    @thomasheer825 10 місяців тому +4

    Is great design and works well, but it takes BIG money to put it into production. If they were made at a reasonable price today the operation making them would make BIG MONEY. If say Honda, or Royal Enfield built one today with one of their more advanced engines they could be marketed as a scooter with attitude, like the touring Bergmans from Suzuki.

  • @robert-wr6md
    @robert-wr6md Місяць тому

    Good story thanks. Paul Blezard wrote about this fine machine a few years back, as you expect a Feet Forward afictionado to have done.

  • @kaiser98berlin
    @kaiser98berlin 10 місяців тому

    I like how the headlight was taken from a F4 Honda. Incredible build architecture from one's vision! Thanks Dan Gurney!

  • @nmarks
    @nmarks 9 місяців тому

    It makes a lot of sense. Single-seater racing cars (F1, Indy) all seat the driver low down.

  • @robmanueb.
    @robmanueb. 9 місяців тому +1

    Recumbent doesn't catch on because it leaves you feeling vulnerable. Combination of not having the ability to stand on the pegs for bumps and being low in the traffic is enough for most rider to pass on this.

    • @constantinosschinas4503
      @constantinosschinas4503 3 місяці тому +1

      Plus no passenger and other things. The basic thing in riding is feeling free, not caged.

    • @Siravingmon
      @Siravingmon Місяць тому

      Quite the opposite. Because you have a seat back to brace against you are much more secure and better able to control the bike

    • @Siravingmon
      @Siravingmon Місяць тому

      @@constantinosschinas4503Most of Royce Creasey’s creations were 2 seaters, with the seat back moving back for the semi-enclosed passenger

    • @robmanueb.
      @robmanueb. Місяць тому

      @@Siravingmon Yes that is why you see mountain bikers use recumbents.

    • @Siravingmon
      @Siravingmon Місяць тому

      @@robmanueb. MTB levels of manoeuvrability and balance are not relevant to riding powered 2 wheelers at speed. Being able to control the steering from a secure riding position is. Speaking as an ex mtb rider/ (road)motor-biker, recumbent bicycle rider, and former owner of a recumbent (“feet forward”)2 wheeler (Royce Creasey’s CMax 2).

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 10 місяців тому +4

    Lots of ff bikes in UK from the 70s+80s so nothing new ......

    • @FFVoyager
      @FFVoyager 10 місяців тому +1

      Dan came to Goodwood in 2012 and met Royce Creasey (FF builder) and Paul Blezard (journalist and FF enthusiast) and he had no knowledge of what had been happening in the UK!

    • @andyb.1026
      @andyb.1026 3 місяці тому

      A friend in Bristol UK built an FF with a BSA 500 twin,, it was a bit of a bodge up, but I still thought I it was pretty good.
      Conventional Motorcycles, with the weight high up, and horrible tele forks are an engineering anachronism,, but the general public are Very conservative & wary of change 😢😂😊

  • @blandrooker6541
    @blandrooker6541 10 місяців тому

    Build it longer, add electric motors, paint it red and scream "TETSUO" a lot and I'll sell my kidney and buy one on the spot.

  • @kvikas3852
    @kvikas3852 10 місяців тому +1

    I may sleep while driving 😊

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 10 місяців тому +12

    Ah, the old Feet First Bikes. I remember the 1975 Quaser that was going to revolutionise the world ;-)

    • @peterfitzpatrick7032
      @peterfitzpatrick7032 10 місяців тому +2

      Theres a blast from the past.... 🤔

    • @lauriebloggs8391
      @lauriebloggs8391 10 місяців тому +2

      Bingo, and others using the CX 500 and V50 engines........DiFazio?

    • @cedhome7945
      @cedhome7945 10 місяців тому +4

      Factory in Bristol....they were quite a common sight for a number of years so as we all know nothing new here......

    • @derekp2674
      @derekp2674 10 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/MV4qVbNPX_w/v-deo.html

    • @tomthompson7400
      @tomthompson7400 10 місяців тому +2

      I always likes the Quasar theres some interesting stuff on the web about it if you hunt for it.

  • @ExcaliburPaladin
    @ExcaliburPaladin 9 місяців тому

    Fantastic job on this video

  • @jimlassiter749
    @jimlassiter749 8 місяців тому

    as an old man with a very bad back, i would love this.... (depending on suspension too...).
    getting on & off is the main impetus....

    • @dutchsailor6620
      @dutchsailor6620 6 місяців тому

      Just remember that it might be easy to take a seat, but much harder to get out of it again.

  • @exexpat11
    @exexpat11 9 місяців тому

    Buell? Buell'er! Erik Buell? This seems right up your alley to make!

  • @EndritBs
    @EndritBs 12 днів тому

    Moto scooters should do this asap.
    I always thought this kind of bike,and here it is.
    Aerodynamics better,you look like in car.

  • @rofufoja
    @rofufoja 7 місяців тому

    Really makes sense to design a bike like this. Should handle really well. But wouldn't want to know what happens to the private parts in case of a collision 😅

  • @air-vacsystemsinc.7770
    @air-vacsystemsinc.7770 10 місяців тому +3

    Used to see these on Ortega Hwy from time to time. Gurney was almost always on a Harley. Fun chasing him up the road. I was usually on my VFR 800 or my RC51.

    • @tonylawson9319
      @tonylawson9319 10 місяців тому

      Indeed, i saw him at lookout on this and he was nice enough to show and talk about it to a small group of riders.

    • @GrampsD63
      @GrampsD63 10 місяців тому +1

      I was friends with Danny Jr. and used to go riding with thoose guys out there. When Dan was on that thing nobody could catch up to him.

    • @air-vacsystemsinc.7770
      @air-vacsystemsinc.7770 10 місяців тому

      Dan was always approachable and very easy and interesting to talk to. Another one was Jay Leno. I used to see him at the Rock Store with one of his cars. Super nice guy. Easy to speak with. Very personable. Both these guys would talk to anyone.

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 9 місяців тому +1

    Totally Akira style

  • @abelincoln3261
    @abelincoln3261 9 місяців тому

    The heat the vibration the noise... BUT if one did the same basic design using dual electric motors... hmm interesting it might just work... really well.

  • @Daft_Dhwelk
    @Daft_Dhwelk 10 місяців тому +1

    Amazing lumbar support but I doubt the thoracic spine would take a jolt from the rear wheel.

  • @hfvhf987
    @hfvhf987 9 місяців тому

    haha that looks really clumsy to ride. Good luck keeping up with even the 600cc boys in the bends.

  • @thatguyfrommaine4400
    @thatguyfrommaine4400 10 місяців тому +2

    Scooters, am I a joke to you? . Neat machine nevertheless, thanks for the vid, subscribed!

    • @wierdbike
      @wierdbike  10 місяців тому +2

      Haha, exactly

  • @Doellimann
    @Doellimann 5 місяців тому

    These are Nissin Breaks typically used by Honda

  • @jeffwatson4908
    @jeffwatson4908 10 місяців тому +4

    As the owner of a long wheelbase recumbent bicycle I can appreciate the riding advantages of this motorcycle. Always wanted one. My one concern would be while you are certainly noticed by drivers in open areas, riding amongst typically large SUVs and trucks on a busy road makes you essentially invisible. You are when seated the height of a standard riderless motorcycle. So it would be a fun Sunday morning bike on rural roads.

  • @jimstenlund6017
    @jimstenlund6017 6 днів тому

    Better have really good suspension as you’ll not be lifting yourself up with your legs to prepare for big bumps.

  • @tammyforbes2101
    @tammyforbes2101 10 місяців тому +1

    I always wondered why we didn’t build bikes like this keep the center of gravity lower allowing us to really grind the tires off on the curves.

  • @axisgalaxis
    @axisgalaxis 9 місяців тому

    Clearly ahead of his time.

  • @Koofumhead
    @Koofumhead 9 місяців тому

    This design looks like a good basis for the Akira bike.

  • @vojdanzaprov4643
    @vojdanzaprov4643 9 місяців тому

    Cool motorcycle...closest to Kaneda's bike....from Akira😊

  • @RedBud315
    @RedBud315 10 місяців тому +2

    I think this bike is in the Petersen Auto Museum in L.A. I saw it there a few years ago so probably still there.

    • @pnblondon1087
      @pnblondon1087 10 місяців тому +1

      Correct. One of the 36 Alligators is indeed there.

  • @thatbigblackguychannel2576
    @thatbigblackguychannel2576 9 місяців тому

    I used to see these guys on Ortega Highway/Highway 74 in the early 2000's.

  • @PRH123
    @PRH123 9 місяців тому

    Just goes to show, that maxi scooters are actually the best motorcycles (like the Burgman). Smooth, efficient, safe., fast, comfortable, on the road they win in virtually every category.

  • @mpc1mil
    @mpc1mil 9 місяців тому

    Finally a bike for Cotton Hill!

  • @motogeee510
    @motogeee510 10 місяців тому +1

    😮 this man did what he set out to do for sure. I so want one.

  • @joeb.7791
    @joeb.7791 9 місяців тому

    I was just at the Peterson Automotive museum and saw this for the first time ever and now this video gets suggested to me. What a coincidence. Great video btw.

  • @kalliste23
    @kalliste23 9 місяців тому

    The problem I can see is that you lose a lot of ability to see the road ahead. You would have to ride it completely differently to a conventional motorcycle.

  • @patlee9704
    @patlee9704 9 місяців тому

    For someone who had to give bikes up because of a bad back ,this could be a gamechanger

  • @peterdombrowski4579
    @peterdombrowski4579 9 місяців тому

    Look 's like a modern ner-a-car, it is a really usefull invention!

  • @RELAXcowboy
    @RELAXcowboy 9 місяців тому

    Why do I feel like watching Akira now?

  • @straightchad8059
    @straightchad8059 9 місяців тому

    Saw it long time ago in a motorcycle magazine , liked it but one thing that bothered me was the two shock absorber set -up that ruined the looks . Fast cornering gonna be scary where your ankle and calf come contact with the road surface .

  • @Cesar82nd
    @Cesar82nd 10 місяців тому +2

    It’s a recumbent. ❤

    • @kenwittlief255
      @kenwittlief255 10 місяців тому +1

      it is
      if it was fully faired it could set some speed records for its engine size
      but compared to a cruiser bike with a drivers back rest, it doenst look any more comfortable - or to any touring bike
      its not clear what problem this is trying to solve - for a bicycle its all about aerodynamics while still being able to pedal
      also the handlebars are too far away - under seat steering would be better
      one fatal flaw, in an accident there is no chance of being thrown clear, your chest will be crushed

    • @Cesar82nd
      @Cesar82nd 10 місяців тому

      @@kenwittlief255 Put the engine behind the rider, use a true laid back position. Smaller front wheel under the knees of the forward facing legs. You could even use under seat steering for ultimate comfort and view.

  • @mikepierce4739
    @mikepierce4739 10 місяців тому +2

    Great idea. I Want one.

  • @highlander7
    @highlander7 9 місяців тому

    They should make an electric version. It would probably be a hit.

  • @skg901
    @skg901 9 місяців тому

    What a gem...
    Needs a canopy and a Vyrus like front suspension

  • @dylantosta4218
    @dylantosta4218 9 місяців тому

    It has a nice concept but for me it's still kinda weird looking bike.

  • @gary5481
    @gary5481 10 місяців тому

    Very informative & interesting video, let down by incoherent commentary & misspronunciation.

  • @cartmanrlsusall
    @cartmanrlsusall 9 місяців тому

    Never heard of that bike i bet it was a blast to ride

  • @MarcDunivan
    @MarcDunivan 3 місяці тому

    I find it strage he didn't swap to a center-hub steer design from the traditional front fork.

  • @lorimcquinn3966
    @lorimcquinn3966 10 місяців тому +4

    I'm a big fan of Mr. Gurney, his process is well thought out and successful in the end. I would have loved to see his Alligator with the twin cylinder engine design he did. I have a blueprint of this engine on my garage wall, a thing of beauty.

    • @Shawn-os2kc
      @Shawn-os2kc 9 місяців тому

      Dan created the Instagator, which is on display at Barber Motorsport in Birmingham

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 9 місяців тому

    I STILL want to ride one! Though if I were to buy one, I'd definitely want more power. Something in the 110-140hp range with 65-80 lb-ft of torque. Either a crossplane twin or a triple.

  • @fernandobastias5483
    @fernandobastias5483 10 місяців тому

    Is this the original concept about Kaneda's motorcicle????.

  • @arealassassin
    @arealassassin 9 місяців тому

    I believe you mean "telekinesis"- the ability to control material objects with thought, as opposed to "telepathy" which is mind to mind communication.

  • @bdjm8595
    @bdjm8595 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for doing a bit on this unusual bike, I remember Dan working on this and reading some articles on it as he developed it, too bod it never went into full production!!

  • @Herbie11
    @Herbie11 10 місяців тому +1

    Still not as dorky as those Can-Am tricycles.

    • @romandybala
      @romandybala 10 місяців тому

      Can Ams' total reason for existing is to allow older ,less well balanced riders to stay in the wind. They serve a useful purpose.Maybe you can get another 5 years riding as your body wears out.

  • @andrewallen9993
    @andrewallen9993 10 місяців тому

    It was just too bloody expensive!

  • @gricogary5772
    @gricogary5772 9 місяців тому

    That design was already in my head since 1996 thx to anime akira

  • @EL_FRENLO
    @EL_FRENLO 10 місяців тому

    I love everything about this bike

  • @thekiltedgunsmith1776
    @thekiltedgunsmith1776 10 місяців тому

    Guy unknowingly built the mk1 akira bike. 😆

  • @jasonliebenberg7918
    @jasonliebenberg7918 10 місяців тому

    Im not a motorcyclist,love all bikes though obsesively😂😂....first time seeing this bike and loving it..❤❤🇿🇦👏

  • @Dex99SS
    @Dex99SS 9 місяців тому

    I mean, straight away... before the video even gets into any voice... just images of the bike. You can CLEARLY see the center of gravity advantages here, which will trickle down to other areas of concern, in all positive ways no less... This design looks to be superior in so many ways. Granted, it looks a bit like a scooty scoot, so no one would buy it. Even if it could beat everything...

  • @jauzaafaishalahmadpadmadis3846
    @jauzaafaishalahmadpadmadis3846 10 місяців тому

    Paint it red and you’ll have shotaro’s bike from akira lmao

  • @LordHolley
    @LordHolley 9 місяців тому

    It does look comfy. Probably great for all day rides.

  • @DIY-DaddyO
    @DIY-DaddyO 9 місяців тому

    Now, turn out an e-bike like this...

  • @zakkyummms
    @zakkyummms 9 місяців тому

    Cruiser dressed as a sport bike. Next.

  • @got2kittys
    @got2kittys 10 місяців тому

    I wouldn't like sitting so low. Loss of visibilty, and also same for other drivers.

  • @ivancounsell4077
    @ivancounsell4077 10 місяців тому +1

    It's just the low centre of gravity that improves handling, although other factors are involved such as rake and trail etc, though I wouldn't feel safe with feet forward position

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому

      They could certainly be made safer, but I don't feel like Gurney's Alligator was optimized at all for this. With the low cg you could stop much quicker, if the cg is below the axle of the front wheel, you could actually increase rear wheel loading on hard braking. A decent sized recumbent could also add frontal impact protection and active restraints giving the safety of a small car. I'm trying to take full advantage of what this platform has to offer in my Akira Bike Project, check it out.

    • @PaulG.x
      @PaulG.x 10 місяців тому

      Actually low centre of gravity *never* improves handling.
      If it did , you would see it used on race bikes.
      Low centre of gravity slows a bike's turn in.
      If you could lower the CoG to the road surface the bike would be impossible to corner

    • @hemingwaybromfield3722
      @hemingwaybromfield3722 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@PaulG.x Wrong. COG in of itself has no bearing on turn-in. See the guys on recumbent bicycles, they fair just fine. It all has do with polar moment, more inertia, slower turn-in. In upright bikes that means a high COG to be inline with the riders abdomen. Not so in recumbents, the abdomen is already in line with the lower COG. Technically, Since the bike is now much shorter, and everything far closer to COG, recubments can have a faster turn-in than an upright.

    • @matus1976
      @matus1976 10 місяців тому +1

      @@PaulG.x A low CoG has advantages and disadvantages and it can certainly improve handling.
      Google motorcycle engineer Tony Foal's page he has a section on Feet Forward bikes and CoG, or check out his book which has a chapter on it, or John Bradleys books.
      Motorcycle racing regulations are onerous and basically locked in the modern upright and riding position and subsequently where the CoG can end up. Racing is about competition not innovation and has held back motorcycle design for decades because of this very attitude you're expressing here.