Interesting and informative video sir. Thanks. Can you tell me, as a layman, how to identify to tell whether a leather its veg tanned or chrome or combination? What are the signs and how can tell or feel the difference between the three?
Great vido Tanner. I own multiple leather goods. From calfskin boots python boots aligator wallets shell cordovan shoes sheepskin jacket horsehide jacket and more that i probably forgot. You are an artist of leather crafting. My question is, is there a difference between vegetable dyed full grain leather vs. vegetable tanned leather?
I found your videos thos weekend.... and I've learnt so many new things... I never expected to learn about. An unexpected surprise. Thanks. Oh, I want that amazingly beautiful mens brown bag you showed in another video.... the one shown at the end of the LV bag video.
I understand chrome tan leather can cause metal objects stored in it to rust, I.e, knife - pending steel. Correct? Also, I understand chrome tanned leather is best for clothing type items since it holds up to sweat better and more pliable, I.e., shoes or coat.
They age worse, I think, especially in contact with metal.Double tanned (chrome and veg )leather is best for insoles only. Various finishes like oils and waxes can maintain veg tan in clothing and shoes both, it's just not best as something that will be in contact with water/sweat often.
This video left me with more questions than answers. Main question is why you think combination is the best? The piece of leather you have on the table there looks like a big mess, and when you fold it, the fold marks stay in. That doesn't seem to be the case with the veg tan or the chrome tan. So why does it do that and why do you think it's so good?
I heard an issue with chrome tanned leather is that it would contain poisonous chromium VI. Is that very easily contain Chromium 6 in general, especially some dried leather products？
This is correct!! Even at the "best" tanneries which tan with Chrome III, it is still necessary to be tested at end of production for the absence of Chrome VI Not all tanneries make this test. This information comes from the chemical houses which sell and formulate chemicals for the leather industry. Additionally, in decomposition, Chrome III can be become Chrome VI, poisoning the water supply. Municipalities test for total chrome in water, not chrome VI which is toxic This is the reason that there is an international push for metal-free leather
Is there a certain “type” of chrome tanned leather that has more stiffness to it, similar to a veg tanned feel? Im trying to make wallets/card holders with thin chrome leather and its too soft to stitch well and finish the edges to look clean and smooth. What type of finished chrome leather will work?
I don’t agree with the fact that most of the leather today is a combination tanned leather. I think it depends on where you live. Most of the chrome tanned leather in Europe is pure chrometan. And chrometan coming from Asia isn’t safe at all. Most of the tanneries there still use Chrome VI.
full-grain uses the whole skin basically. That is all of the most upper layer of an animal skin, minus the corium. Full grain leather is generally accepted to be the best and/or most expensive leather there is, however, because it does use all of the most upper layer, it will have the imperfections of the skin included, which adds uniqueness in a way, but also can be not what you are looking for. If you are looking for a very even pattern on your leather, top grain, basically the second half of full grain, with a texture print on it, can be considered superior, all the while being nearly as thick and nearly as nice as full grain. Either way, full grain is as far off from full vegan as possible. More or less, it is the pure opposite of full vegan, full grain is all of the animal skin :D
@@benjamin.f.b. thanks a lot sir. And I'm sorry.i meant vegetable tanned leather. Actually i was trying to start making some Leather goods using high quality leather. But unfortunately here in my country no one can explain better and most of the people are just focused on commercial purpose rather than hobby.
On the environmental side , all the waste from the Chrome leather process ends up in landfills , in the best scenario, or underground ,poisoning the land and the water like it recently occurred in Italy. Good luck
Vegetable tanning does not give you a “thicker” leather than chrome tanning. What kind of nonsense is that? Thickness has to do with the animal the hide comes from. It is then split into many different thicknesses.
That green color is amazing!!!!!!
Helpful and straightforward. Thanks for the great info.
Interesting and informative video sir. Thanks. Can you tell me, as a layman, how to identify to tell whether a leather its veg tanned or chrome or combination? What are the signs and how can tell or feel the difference between the three?
This is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much for all the effort you put into your videos. They are wonderful.
Great vido Tanner. I own multiple leather goods. From calfskin boots python boots aligator wallets shell cordovan shoes sheepskin jacket horsehide jacket and more that i probably forgot. You are an artist of leather crafting. My question is, is there a difference between vegetable dyed full grain leather vs. vegetable tanned leather?
I found your videos thos weekend.... and I've learnt so many new things... I never expected to learn about. An unexpected surprise. Thanks.
Oh, I want that amazingly beautiful mens brown bag you showed in another video.... the one shown at the end of the LV bag video.
Excellent and informative video
this helped me a lot. im just getting in to leathercraft!
thank you for information. can you recommend a quality edge dye for Chrome leather?
What can we use to condition chrome tanned leather patches?
I understand chrome tan leather can cause metal objects stored in it to rust, I.e, knife - pending steel. Correct? Also, I understand chrome tanned leather is best for clothing type items since it holds up to sweat better and more pliable, I.e., shoes or coat.
They age worse, I think, especially in contact with metal.Double tanned (chrome and veg )leather is best for insoles only. Various finishes like oils and waxes can maintain veg tan in clothing and shoes both, it's just not best as something that will be in contact with water/sweat often.
Coach just released a vegetable tanned tabby, could you do a break down of that bag?
Very insightful video, subscribed 😊
Hi! I am new in leather crafting
I bought a veg tanned leather but the problem is: it is unfinished. What can I do about it? Thank you!
What is semi-vegetable tanned leather as Madewell markets their medium transport totes?
Is satchel and page a high quality leather in their bags?
Could someone answer this question regarding ~ minute 5: how could it be stiffer and more pliable at the same time ?
This video left me with more questions than answers. Main question is why you think combination is the best? The piece of leather you have on the table there looks like a big mess, and when you fold it, the fold marks stay in. That doesn't seem to be the case with the veg tan or the chrome tan. So why does it do that and why do you think it's so good?
I want to ask i buy already brown goat vegtan so what do you thing of that is is that chrome tanning also? Or not
Do you know what tanning is used by Loewe
I heard an issue with chrome tanned leather is that it would contain poisonous chromium VI. Is that very easily contain Chromium 6 in general, especially some dried leather products？
@@tanner.leatherstein thanks for your kind answer and information!
This is correct!! Even at the "best" tanneries which tan with Chrome III, it is still necessary to be tested at end of production for the absence of Chrome VI Not all tanneries make this test. This information comes from the chemical houses which sell and formulate chemicals for the leather industry. Additionally, in decomposition, Chrome III can be become Chrome VI, poisoning the water supply. Municipalities test for total chrome in water, not chrome VI which is toxic This is the reason that there is an international push for metal-free leather
Doubt: Combination tanning always chrome base tanning?
Is there a certain “type” of chrome tanned leather that has more stiffness to it, similar to a veg tanned feel? Im trying to make wallets/card holders with thin chrome leather and its too soft to stitch well and finish the edges to look clean and smooth. What type of finished chrome leather will work?
I think you are looking for combination tanned leather, which is touched upon in the video.
How do i get your products in India?
Where does "Oil Tanning" fall into this?
Can help me to produce designer bags for commercial use
Can chrome tanned leather develop patina or only veg tanned & combination can develop it ?
@@tanner.leatherstein Thanks
What’s up Illini?
I don’t agree with the fact that most of the leather today is a combination tanned leather. I think it depends on where you live. Most of the chrome tanned leather in Europe is pure chrometan. And chrometan coming from Asia isn’t safe at all. Most of the tanneries there still use Chrome VI.
Help me pls..
What is The difference between Full-grain & full vegan or both are same?
And
What is crust leather
full-grain uses the whole skin basically. That is all of the most upper layer of an animal skin, minus the corium. Full grain leather is generally accepted to be the best and/or most expensive leather there is, however, because it does use all of the most upper layer, it will have the imperfections of the skin included, which adds uniqueness in a way, but also can be not what you are looking for. If you are looking for a very even pattern on your leather, top grain, basically the second half of full grain, with a texture print on it, can be considered superior, all the while being nearly as thick and nearly as nice as full grain. Either way, full grain is as far off from full vegan as possible. More or less, it is the pure opposite of full vegan, full grain is all of the animal skin :D
@@benjamin.f.b. thanks a lot sir.
And I'm sorry.i meant vegetable tanned leather.
Actually i was trying to start making some Leather goods using high quality leather. But unfortunately here in my country no one can explain better and most of the people are just focused on commercial purpose rather than hobby.
On the environmental side , all the waste from the Chrome leather process ends up in landfills , in the best scenario, or underground ,poisoning the land and the water like it recently occurred in Italy. Good luck
Are you Armenian? :)
I love the silicon purse. Which is also vegan.
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Vegetable tanning does not give you a “thicker” leather than chrome tanning. What kind of nonsense is that? Thickness has to do with the animal the hide comes from. It is then split into many different thicknesses.
Being an expert I thought you would have a channel but no nothing sometimes if you’ve got nothing good to say then shut thy mouth.
He is CLEARLY OBVIOUSLY using this word in place of FIRMNESS. YOU can ASCERTAIN THIS BY THE WAY HE IS HOLDING and BENDING the HYDE. Like Duh.
Yoy speaks about status like if hand work doesnt exist! What Shoul I pay for hand work? 50€ 100€ 200€????? Because you never spoke about hans work!!!!