From Kobold Press-Tome of Beasts 5E Review and Flip Through

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  • Опубліковано 18 лис 2024

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  • @Dan-Dillon
    @Dan-Dillon 8 років тому +10

    Regarding some of the high-hp-per-CR comments: That's definitely the case in several instances. All the CR values are in line with the guidelines in the DMG, however, so when you have a case of a lower CR monster with higher hp than you'd see out of a comparable monster in the MM, the ToB monster will likely deal less damage per hit, have a lower to-hit bonus, or lack some other ability or trait that keeps the CR balanced.
    There are a few that are heavy-hitters for their CR band, but that phenomenon exists in the Monster Manual as well, and is the reason there's a sidebar in the DMG talking about being aware of a monster's actual capabilities in addition to its CR value. Bugbears are a great example of this. They can 1-shot a 1st level PC straight to instant death, despite being only CR 1.
    We definitely did our best to stay in a given CR guideline, but there is some element of having to know your party, and have an eye on what the monster can do to them in that context. The CR/Encounter difficulty system is a guide, not an absolute.

    • @Goblinerd
      @Goblinerd 8 років тому +2

      Thanks for the input! Very much appreciated!

  • @TheGentlemanDuelist
    @TheGentlemanDuelist 8 років тому +3

    I was looking at the Alehouse Drake in there and I was amazed they gave it the Confusion spell. That's a fourth level wizard spell just slapped on a monster that level 1's are supposed to be dealing with.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      That was a bit of the wonkiness we were speaking of.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @flaviozancarli5273
    @flaviozancarli5273 8 років тому +4

    I think the average quality of these monster is WAY better than the original monster manual! I guess the best way to describe it is: they look interesting funny and challenging for the players wich, to me, is a huge thing!

  • @Nerdarchy
    @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +2

    Just in case you didn't see it, +DM Nyght ran the numbers comparing various aspects of the Tome of Beasts & the Monsters Manuel (Avg. Min/Max HP, armor class, ability score comparisons, etc.). Check it out here: gyazo.com/f2de3362976ace6eb2b4f0609e779609 Now, what compelled them to do so is beyond me, but it's pretty cool that they compiled the data! -Nerdarchist Ryan

  • @ArcadeEverwinter
    @ArcadeEverwinter 8 років тому +1

    loving the dual camera work! really catches the eye

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      We try to stretch ourselves from time to time, thanks.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @borisstremlin4577
    @borisstremlin4577 8 років тому +2

    Thanks for reviewing this. I'm interested in the mythological monsters here - particularly to see what they did with the Russian ones (Kikimora, Rusalka, Koshchei). The CR misalignment gives me some pause, because it means they don't scale with the MM monsters. Also, 5e has handled traditional mythological creatures with greater taste than previous editions - hope that's true for this publication also.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      You are quite welcome. We have yet tear into the book more thoroughly yet. I'm working my way through Cypher System and will revisit this one as I need monsters or when I'm through that book.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @AceOfBanes
    @AceOfBanes 7 років тому

    In the 5th edition dmg, it mentions that there are intelligent ghouls in the shadowfell. Good canon place to use the ToBs ghouls

  • @shallendor
    @shallendor 8 років тому +2

    This was probably designed for their Midgard setting which may be a reason for the design of the monsters.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Yes most of the monsters had a Midgard side bar.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @richardbaum8971
      @richardbaum8971 8 років тому +1

      That's exactly what the writers said. It's based heavily in Midgard, but general enough to work anywhere.

  • @zealous944
    @zealous944 8 років тому

    got this book on preorder, thanks guys for keeping me on the up and up.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +1

      You welcome. It's part of what we do.
      Nerdarchist Dave

  • @richardbaum8971
    @richardbaum8971 8 років тому

    Are you guys planning on checking out Ultramodern 5? It's fun, but lacks weight. The ladder system is funky and great.

  • @ArcadeEverwinter
    @ArcadeEverwinter 8 років тому +2

    to do a quick addition to my first comment. I'd suggest making the box showing you guys a bit smaller so both sides of the book you guys show off or whatever else you're showing off can be seen a bit better

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      The flip through portion restarts around the half way mark moving the box to give a different view. Will definitely keep in mind for next time.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @callumgoulden96
    @callumgoulden96 8 років тому +1

    I have the book, but i only have the PDF as of yet, but just from that the quaility oozes through. Its an amazing resource. Cant wait for my print copy. Maybe more Monster BFF's ;)

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Yeah monster BFFs is a possibility for sure.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @adamg0013
    @adamg0013 6 років тому

    I actually did the math for the challenge rating and yes they are off so make sure when using the tome you adjust cause they are stronger than there cr

  • @gakiyarou
    @gakiyarou 8 років тому +1

    great product, my only complaint is the paper quality of the physical book- i prefer a glossy page (like the phb/dmg/mm). I would have backed the kickstarter but didn't know about it.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Yeah Nerdarchist Ted missed it to somehow.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @dgtlrn
    @dgtlrn 8 років тому +2

    Well I was gonna buy it at some point but not yet, but apparently I have no self control and have now ordered it. Thanks for parting my cash from me guys, first arcknight FPM's and now this ;)!

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +1

      Sorry this hobby can be a real monster.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @Goblinerd
      @Goblinerd 8 років тому

      Nerdarchy, out for our wallets! For a noble cause of course! Hehehe
      Seriously though, I'm glad they keep us appraised of such things, otherwise I might miss out on things like: Wizard's dice, Ultimate Bestiary: Revenge of the Hordes, Tome of Beast, Book of Lairs... Wow, imagine the money I could have saved... DAMN YOU NERDARCHY lol XD

  • @Mr420NinjAFTW
    @Mr420NinjAFTW 8 років тому +3

    i dont mind the power level here, i find most of the published monsters in the MM and modules to be a bit underwhelming and easily over came. Its refreshing to find some more challenging monsters... saves me the trouble of having to beef up the weaksauce stuff thats already out

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Fair enough, but we thought is worth mentioning. It also speaks to power creep for those that are concerned about it.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @Mr420NinjAFTW
      @Mr420NinjAFTW 8 років тому

      Power creep is why i tend to stay away from 3rd party publishers material. ill likely make an exception in this case based on your guys review... then again, i dont tend to have any problem cobbling or reskinning to make my own creatures. it is nice to have some already made and not in the MM... ppl tend to meta the MM stuff a bit in my experience, so i often like using custom monsters to get away from their expectations

    • @Goblinerd
      @Goblinerd 8 років тому

      Plus, if it ends up harder than desired, it's always easier to tone down rather than have to beef up a Monster :)

  • @chaddixon9764
    @chaddixon9764 8 років тому +2

    I will prob use these straight out of the book save for the permanent effects.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Same here. I'll use them as either higher or lower cr monsters is all.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @mikegould6590
    @mikegould6590 8 років тому +1

    Looks like a great resource. Thanks for the heads up on the CR/hp thing. Should I get my hands on this, I'll be sure to look for that.
    I think my two favorite things mentioned here were the Drakes and the Fey.
    The Fey were all but ignored (along with Celestials) in the 5E Monster Manual, and with lots of resources on Demon Lords, scattered reference to Arch Devils, it seemed only logical to have more on some Archfey. Mind you, they did not really reference the Archfey mentioned in the Player's Handbook, instead inserting others (along with the Disney Snow Queen....ugh)
    Drakes haven't seen the light of day since...what...4E? I also really dug the constructs. More please!
    When Volo's Guide to Monsters comes out, there should be a ton of choice for any DM.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      All in all I'm happy with it. There is a lot cool stuff, but some power creep as well. Also excited waiting about Volo's. We are gonna go from content starved to an over load of choices. Not that I'm complaining.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @mikegould6590
      @mikegould6590 8 років тому +1

      Nerdarchy This abundance of choice might well reduce the need for so many re-skins. All in all, I'm for more choice in the monster market.

    • @Dan-Dillon
      @Dan-Dillon 8 років тому +1

      A note on the Snow Queen, she actually has been around in the Midgard Campaign Setting for quite a long time now, and she's most certainly not an Elsa clone.
      I will say without argument that the art is very evocative of "Frozen." The character, though, is about as un-Elsa as it gets.

    • @Goblinerd
      @Goblinerd 8 років тому

      So, an UN-Elsa clone? :P

  • @CRAZY6256
    @CRAZY6256 8 років тому +1

    what about the physical book quality (pages,binding)? is it built to last?

  • @Joemantler
    @Joemantler 3 роки тому

    A Giant Spider has a high Charisma because it is not easily intimidated or controlled.
    But, yeah, the Kobold Press creatures tend to have higher stats, and more powerful abilities. GMs want to be careful, and tone things down when appropriate. But that is true with any 5E creature

  • @Connorcj1
    @Connorcj1 8 років тому +1

    Damnit guys, watch it with the Dresden files references! I'm only five books in!

    • @Mr420NinjAFTW
      @Mr420NinjAFTW 8 років тому

      spoiler alert: harry is a wizard!

    • @elminster298
      @elminster298 8 років тому

      Spoiler alert- Dumbledore dies...

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      I had to think which reference we made at first. Dresden lore is ingrained into our consciousness the way LOTR is in others at this point.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @jackrabbit4907
    @jackrabbit4907 7 років тому

    This book is awesome,there's alot a fey and undead monsters,which i think the 5e MM lacks of.I got the PDF for 40$ CAN..Well worth the money,if you ask me.Peace

  • @ayotl_witch7162
    @ayotl_witch7162 8 років тому +1

    I saw the art for the bear folk and was blown away, I know it's more of a monster manual but are the bear folk statted out for a pc race or just npc/villainous/monsterous characters. Would pay the 40$ bucks but I'm only really interested in that one monster and since im not really planning on running a campaign anytime soon I can't justify the cost.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Afraid not everything is monsters in this book.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @ayotl_witch7162
      @ayotl_witch7162 8 років тому

      Damn there goes my bear folk bear totem barbarian idea

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      I could've sworn there was a section that gave the stat adjustments for all of the anthropomorphic animals in the book, sort of like how the DMG (or MM?) have stat adjustments and racial abilities for the various humanoids. So, it wouldn't have a full-on PC write-up, but will get you "close enough". -Nerdarchist Ryan

    • @Dan-Dillon
      @Dan-Dillon 8 років тому +1

      The very last page (before the index) is a list of ability score adjustments and traits for the "humanoid" type monsters from the Tome of Beasts, and also for the PC-races from Kobold Press' "Heroes" line of books. Nerdarchist Ryan is correct that it's just like the DMG page.
      Now, the intent of that is so that you can take, say, a Veteran NPC from the Monster Manual, or the Bandit Lord from the Tome, then make him a bearfolk.
      It gives you a good idea of what to do, but you'll have to do some tweaking to keep things on the up and up for balance. Several monster traits aren't suitable to port directly over to PCs, and that'll require some massaging.
      Although, I HAVE considered doing a PC race treatment of the bearfolk for the Kobold Press blog... maybe that'll bump up the priority list...

  • @uriburgos9211
    @uriburgos9211 8 років тому

    Hi guys I'm really into D&D 5E but since I'm from Venezuela I can't affort any handbook or minis, I would like to have this book for my D&D campaings, could you help me with the PDF version? I'm asking to almost everyone because I really wish but can't buy it by myself =(

  • @abacadian
    @abacadian 8 років тому

    I live in the UK, is there a link I can use to support you guys while buying this book from amazon UK?

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Probably not. Don't sweat it. We very much appreciate the thought.
      Nerdarchist Dave

  • @sque4
    @sque4 8 років тому

    so the worm demon lord look just like a card from magic the gathering it has delirium and is a rare from shadows over inastradra

  • @rogerfarley7823
    @rogerfarley7823 8 років тому +1

    I think templating is so well-ingrained, at this point, that it diminishes the value of a work of this magnitude. You could publish a list of monster "ideas" and a DM could put the same monster together in 5 minutes.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      While true not everyone wants to do that. Plenty of DMs rather just have the resource. That being said both work neither is right or wrong. Each individual will do what works best for them.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

  • @shamusfarmer
    @shamusfarmer 6 років тому

    It wouldve been hillarious if you had the hands of like 6 people on each side of the book flipping through it. Like, just random and unexplained. "Why are there so many fingers!?" we would all ask ourselves...

  • @wingnut1917
    @wingnut1917 8 років тому

    Just here waiting on the preorder come in
    Think its 9/13 if memory right

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 8 років тому +1

    "I heard yo found the MM a little weakling"

  • @rhettbruck1889
    @rhettbruck1889 8 років тому

    Anything particularly good for an Epic Encounter?

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +1

      there is few high cr monsters- dragons, demon lords, and arche devils off the top of my head.
      Nerdarchist Dave

    • @rhettbruck1889
      @rhettbruck1889 8 років тому

      I might have to buy the book

  • @ChristopherEvansJaguarX305
    @ChristopherEvansJaguarX305 8 років тому

    Video in video action!

  • @sunsin1592
    @sunsin1592 8 років тому +3

    I never saw the point of challenge ratings. Can't DMs figure that stuff out for themselves? I don't need the game company to tell me what will constitute a challenge for my players.

    • @grandmasterrodimus1480
      @grandmasterrodimus1480 7 років тому +2

      sunsin1592 i agree. It's only a guideline for less experienced DMs i feel.

    • @CuriousCritter17
      @CuriousCritter17 6 років тому

      It’s a guideline but I mostly never need to refer to it.

  • @ForgottenEssenceX
    @ForgottenEssenceX 8 років тому +1

    Dude. LANTERN DRAGONETTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERFECT WIZARD FAMILIAR

    • @ForgottenEssenceX
      @ForgottenEssenceX 8 років тому

      Until you read it.

    • @Goblinerd
      @Goblinerd 8 років тому

      Please, go on, you've peaked my interest! Why aren't they, in the end, good familiars?!?

    • @ForgottenEssenceX
      @ForgottenEssenceX 8 років тому

      Just gotta read their full text. It should be way cooler.

  • @jeffreylucier5266
    @jeffreylucier5266 8 років тому

    this looks awesome

  • @ForgottenEssenceX
    @ForgottenEssenceX 8 років тому

    OBS Going hard huh?

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      nope just some editing magic. We are looking at obs for recording live plays.
      Nerdarchist Dave

    • @ForgottenEssenceX
      @ForgottenEssenceX 8 років тому

      Cool. Thought yall were using it here. Had to ask

  • @kevinmcguire3792
    @kevinmcguire3792 8 років тому +2

    oh no the link to buy it has invisibility!

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +2

      No worries I just cast dispel magic on it.
      Nerdarchist Dave

    • @kevinmcguire3792
      @kevinmcguire3792 8 років тому +1

      +Nerdarchy thank god now i can charge forward and take on the new threats ahead

  • @jackal242
    @jackal242 5 років тому

    5:20. The guy on the right makes an intelligent statement.
    5:32. The guy in the middle says something so stupid it hurts my brain.
    It's like you have one smart guy and the guy in the middle just spewed nonsense and idiocy.

  • @EdwardHowton
    @EdwardHowton 8 років тому

    The thing I always worry about with unofficial stuff is that it won't fit with anything else, and as nice as the art looks from what little I can see of it in the video, this looks absolutely awful.
    Hey, are you running a campaign with kobolds, giant spiders, were-tigers, and lamias? Here's a Victorian-era steampunk town guard from Ultima! And Hellboy with an underbite wearing a mining lamp on his head!
    Plus you say everything is overpowered compared to the MM and has a lot of one-shot fuck-you monsters and it makes me think they were designed by a couple kids going "COOL!" at each other every fifteen seconds like some bad 80s commercial. So like, there's this enemy, right? It's a spider (COOL!), but it has a dragon head instead (COOL!) and if it looks at you it EATS YOUR SOUL (COOL!) and it breathes acidfirelightning (COOL!) and...
    I really want to like this, but I can't seem to take it seriously. I wouldn't be surprised to see a crocoduck in there, and as I say that I see 'Eel Hound'. Did they use a random word generator to just mash random things together?
    Best of luck to whoever gets that book, but it definitely isn't for me. I'd have to start an entirely new campaign and use only monsters from this thing, because they just don't fit with anything else, and buying one book just to throw another book away makes no sense to me.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Using terminology like "unofficial stuff", I'd like to point-out that Kobold Press has written at least two modules that were put out under the WOTC brand. Most of the campaign module books were written by Kobold Press or Green Ronin. While we want to be upfront about Pro's/Cons, I think the book has more going for it in the Pro column than in Con. -Nerdarchist Ryan

  • @jespernohr
    @jespernohr 8 років тому +1

    Pretty please get a camera mount for a more stable video of books. The constant shaking really made a good video horrible to watch :/

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      Sorry you didn't like our creative choice we've got several just didn't use them. We'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks for the feedback.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @jespernohr
      @jespernohr 8 років тому

      Loved the video, but the continuing shaking made me seasick O.o Need this book though and thanks for some really nice pointers to look out for :)

  • @clericofchaos1
    @clericofchaos1 8 років тому +8

    I didn't know anything about it until this video....i'd still rather wait for the free pdf though.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому +12

      One of these reasons we do it. So you mean until you can steal it? Pirating is bad for the hobby.
      -Nerdarchist Dave

    • @citycrusher9308
      @citycrusher9308 8 років тому +1

      This is again the problem I have with hit points. An idea is to keep hp low and increase AC and saves for small, fragile creatures. It doesn't matter if you can crush a fairy with a single swat if hitting it is almost impossible in the first place.

    • @clericofchaos1
      @clericofchaos1 8 років тому

      Nerdarchy ARRRRRG! lol no I just think the hobby would do better if the material was cheaper. think of this as "passive and peaceful protest"

    • @jontyndall279
      @jontyndall279 8 років тому +7

      +clericofchaos1 It's a luxury, not a necessity. You're just a scumbag thief, not Robin Hood.

    • @clericofchaos1
      @clericofchaos1 8 років тому +1

      Jon Tyndall lol nonsense, if I were a thief i'd be hacking bank accounts.

  • @elminster298
    @elminster298 8 років тому

    Just waiting to see all of the DMs that don't allow WotC additional material and optional rules in their games to say how they'll be using this against their characters. As always, as the DM it's your game to play it how you want to but at least have the balls to admit when you are being hypocritical. I agree with you guys that it looks good but will require a little tweaking.

    • @cptncutleg
      @cptncutleg 8 років тому

      Feels like they could have done with some community beta testing as a reward for some backers

    • @elminster298
      @elminster298 8 років тому +1

      +Graal Otonami That would have been a great idea. I would assume they did some sort of playtesting but either not enough or not the right kind.

    • @Nerdarchy
      @Nerdarchy  8 років тому

      +James Fenton Yeah, from what I've heard per the Dawnforged Cast interview with the publisher and a designer, some degree of playtesting was done, but not so much on the higher CR end. -Nerdarchist Ryan

    • @elminster298
      @elminster298 8 років тому

      +Nerdarchy. It's honestly not that big of a deal though. A good DM can look at it and make any adjustments needed pretty easily. Even the permanent disabilities aren't permanent in the D&D world.

  • @willowproxy4346
    @willowproxy4346 6 років тому

    Love the book, but in other videos like this can you guys just do a voice over and get off the goddamn screen so we can see!!!!

  • @wildrabbit2237
    @wildrabbit2237 6 років тому

    To be fair, pricing a book filled with misspellings and typos on every other page at 40-50$ is ridiculous. This book was basically written by someone that REALLY wanted to homebrew, but had no idea how so they gave everything 900 HP, overpowered moves, and magic resistance. Seriously, not EVERYTHING needs magic resistance. And the Void Dragon? Jesus the Void Dragon... You kill it? CONGRATS! Now survive the fucking nuke made of THREE of the least resisted damages in the game when you're already almost dead from the fight. Outrun it? HA! Blast radius is as big as my ex's ego. I'm gonna use a few things from this book, but nerfed to hell to make it mesh with everything else officially released. In conclusion, not worth the money... at all. If you want overpowered homebrew just go to the wiki