Pretty accurate to my testing as well except for Starter-Ku which I believe is up there in tier 1 at least. The deck may not be as insta-win into the rest of the format but in my testing it does well into the BDIF TOP-ku, because it just comes down to surviving their rush at your life and dwindling their hand size and/or board to low numbers. And as we know once you get board dominance in the red mirror you are chilling short of a beerus board wipe or something, so the game always comes down to them attacking me (dont self awaken aggressively since they will attack you) then counter to stay around 3-4 life and just swing everything into their board, forcing them to go into multible Kefla's just to keep up on board. Not even mentioning how leader ability used on your turn and your opponents is pretty much a +1 while TOP - ku usually goes -3 in hand to use leader ability. Anyway thats just the insight ive had playing alot of red on Untap the last few weeks, take it with a grain of salt, but id recommend people mess around with starter ku more.
Trying to warn, TopKu not being interacted with in the first 3 maybe 4 turns of the game is not it lol. Like you're given free reign to do whatever you like knowing your hand will not be taxed at all. So you just full send into their life and they can't kill you the turn they HAVE to start addressing your board. Green is just not positioned well rn
Patiently waiting for it to come out on digital. Gonna see how well Broly can do with the new cards. So far I am seeing the potential with 8 Energy Cell, 4 Energy Trunks, 7 energy super Broly, 3 energy ramp Cell and Cell kamehameha
Idk if I personally agree with everything on the list but I will say the top 3 tiers are spot on! I definitely think Gohan is meant to be more aggro with the Goku/Gohan options in early game and I think GB/ 17 is in at least Let them cook tier at the very best but overall solid list
Only reason 17 is as low as it is is because it still requires you to do nothing on turn 3, double ramp on turn 4 to 6 energy, and TopKu will have a field day with it being uncontested for the first 4 turns. An actual field day. Now real talk if TopKu got banned today? We'd have all of green in tier 1
The only reason I don't have Gohan (my favorite leader) or Droids higher is because while they have the same card pool, Broly's 5k goes such a long way in this format to help it survive, and Cell can back to back to back Cell 8 to get it where it needs to be. Gohan and Droids not only have a 20k baseline allowing them to recieve the most punishment, but their endgame is not as strong as Cell's. They don't have the tools or the endgame to fare against the other colors like Broly and Cell do imo. But more and more testing will be had for sure. Though I've put mad hours in its only really been a week lol.
Just dont run lab with 17, its too slow and can be zeno bottomed. You can just destructive strength at 3, like any other green deck and, from 4 energy onwards, you can just play the 17&18 card that effectively ramps 1 for 1 energy with a 20k body as a bonus.
Just heard that most of my locals are quitting after regionals because product is so hard to get and the game is too expensive. So I'm quiting too then.
This is sad, but if you cannot play in person and don't want to play digital, I don't blame you. These first few sets are rough. Many stores did not order big in set 1 or 2 be because they expected it to be lack luster in sales like Masters. On top of that distributors are being shady with One Piece and Fusion World. Many stores are shorted but many boxes make it to Ebay or Facebook. It's a mess and it's hurting the players
I wish you luck buddy, it's pretty rough rn not with his playstyle not gaining anything this set and Yellow being a lol rough as a whole right now. But I won't stop testing the color, just feels very rough rn.
I don’t get how starter ku is worse than u7 goku he can buff kefla which u7 can’t do he can defend 17 better or any battle card for that matter even if u7 goku plays kefla into gohan or 17 he only gets a buff on 1 card
U7Ku is actually able to do what he's supposed to this format. Which is go wide and smash face. When you face the two, U7Ku is actually scary where as StarterKu just feels like a generic Red deck Also between Reds minus effects and Blues bottom decking, his 5k means almost nothing on defense 😢
goku black should be higher lol my buddy tops locals all the time with it. and it got more consistent with the new set. just gotta know how to pilot it. i tried i suck lol my buddy mops people with it though .
Last set Goku Black could play well, especially if your opponent does not handle the critical pressure well and then folds under its top end. But in set two I promise you, you don't want to awaken early as Blue and Goku Black has to awaken and that's really harsh for the playingfield rn. You don't wanna be at 4 going into TopKus best turns. You also don't wanna be at 4 going into Greens best turns rn either
@@UniXTCG Ya true. It got Vegeta 3c, better awakening tools in bulma, maybe more. Will need to test. Aggro will be a powerful strategy to prevent powerful late game plays set 2, so could be helped by that alone. Not confident it is great, but it is probably better than Frieza or Yegeta.
That's the thing, where are you at turn 5 after not interacting with TopKu? I legit said that Green is in a weird place because it's top end I'd incredibly toxic, but TopKu and U7Ku make it very hard to stabilize as Green. It's almost like yall just skip to the end and get mad xD. My favorite lead is Gohan, please believe it tested Green 💚
@mikelang311 kami is 4 cards out of a 50 card deck. Most deck double up or more on answers to Roshi. On top of that, you're not playing valid attackers until like 4 energy. Yeah, that's more than enough time for TopKu to awaken and start slapping you. Green is legit in a weird place because the color is POWERFUL but has a horrible time reaching that power vs the best deck initially in the format
I just played with friends with proxy decks ... Kefla needs to be limited. Red deck kept topping due to kefla and her availability. Limit her to 2 and red would balance out
I think no one is complaining that red is too strong, people are complaining topku is too strong, if we took the new leaders out of the equation, blue might be the new mvp.
@@BamilokVGC ok, but broly and gohan are really insane match up, I can be ok if the leader have 25k or 35k defenders with ability but no one deck can win all time
@@Fradiger27 Japan is running events at the same pace as One Piece. They've already had serial Gokus go out. I also have a few friends in JP that I talk to
Clearly im going to beat every one with 17 deck u clearly dont know how broken the 4 drop android 17 and 18 play 4 drop get rid of 2 cards get back 3 not in rest mode u can play a 20k with a field card on same turn I'm sorry but u clearly shouldn't make a tier list before its tested
Big yikes here. 17 either forces you to play a lab and pass on 3, or play 17 and 18 and lab on turn 4 and pass. Do you understand how much TopKu can do with 4 to 5 turns of not being pressured? Usually it's a wrap at that point. Also don't worry about my testing. I'm grinding this format out every day lmao
@@UniXTCG To be fair man, you do know droids also get access to destructive strength right? You t3 GS, like every green deck. Next turn you play droids twice and youre at 7, just in time for t5 8drop. Its even not hard to find thanks to gero. I think you are limiting your thought process to lab way too much, If your point is that topku kills them if they ramp, then why would you put cell any higher? he plays cell arena at 4 and topku kills him immediatly, since cell is also a 20k base. Pretty much any other aggro deck could probably do it as well. You are kinda trapped in this dreamlike scenario where they are not gonna attack you turn 4, for some reason, and then you play 8drop, 4 cell jr.s from hand and play a cell every turn.
@Phospholazuli I put Cell & Broly higher because they both offer things that Gohan and 17 do not. Broly has better defenses with base power, but Cell provides the most toxic top-end of any Green leader. Back to back to back Cells is actually devastating lol
Pretty accurate to my testing as well except for Starter-Ku which I believe is up there in tier 1 at least.
The deck may not be as insta-win into the rest of the format but in my testing it does well into the BDIF TOP-ku, because it just comes down to surviving their rush at your life and dwindling their hand size and/or board to low numbers. And as we know once you get board dominance in the red mirror you are chilling short of a beerus board wipe or something, so the game always comes down to them attacking me (dont self awaken aggressively since they will attack you) then counter to stay around 3-4 life and just swing everything into their board, forcing them to go into multible Kefla's just to keep up on board. Not even mentioning how leader ability used on your turn and your opponents is pretty much a +1 while TOP - ku usually goes -3 in hand to use leader ability.
Anyway thats just the insight ive had playing alot of red on Untap the last few weeks, take it with a grain of salt, but id recommend people mess around with starter ku more.
17 was underrated Set1 and underrated now lol my buddy won like 7 locals in a row vs very notable players and Meta decks
Trying to warn, TopKu not being interacted with in the first 3 maybe 4 turns of the game is not it lol.
Like you're given free reign to do whatever you like knowing your hand will not be taxed at all.
So you just full send into their life and they can't kill you the turn they HAVE to start addressing your board.
Green is just not positioned well rn
Now against ANY other color, Green feels STRONG
Feels so good to see blue on top
Blue eating this set imo!
@@UniXTCG deserves all the buffs
Patiently waiting for it to come out on digital. Gonna see how well Broly can do with the new cards. So far I am seeing the potential with 8 Energy Cell, 4 Energy Trunks, 7 energy super Broly, 3 energy ramp Cell and Cell kamehameha
Yes would love to see how Broly will preform
Looking forward to seeing the decks in play.thanks for the content
Heck yeah! And no problem!
I’ll be at NC regionals next week hoping to see you there! Best of luck in the tournament!
Ayeeeeeeee just flag me down bruv!
Idk if I personally agree with everything on the list but I will say the top 3 tiers are spot on!
I definitely think Gohan is meant to be more aggro with the Goku/Gohan options in early game and I think GB/ 17 is in at least Let them cook tier at the very best but overall solid list
Only reason 17 is as low as it is is because it still requires you to do nothing on turn 3, double ramp on turn 4 to 6 energy, and TopKu will have a field day with it being uncontested for the first 4 turns. An actual field day.
Now real talk if TopKu got banned today? We'd have all of green in tier 1
solid list, but personally i think androids are hella underrated. Not beating TOP by any means, but I think they stand up there with cell and broly
The only reason I don't have Gohan (my favorite leader) or Droids higher is because while they have the same card pool, Broly's 5k goes such a long way in this format to help it survive, and Cell can back to back to back Cell 8 to get it where it needs to be.
Gohan and Droids not only have a 20k baseline allowing them to recieve the most punishment, but their endgame is not as strong as Cell's.
They don't have the tools or the endgame to fare against the other colors like Broly and Cell do imo.
But more and more testing will be had for sure. Though I've put mad hours in its only really been a week lol.
It hurts so much but I agree with everything about Goku Black.
It stingsssssss but alas.....
All of yellow just piled at the bottom makes me feel good.
They didn't deserve it tbh lol
@@UniXTCG Haha it's just the 1 color I do not enjoy playing. Was never into the rest mode mechanics.
sleeping hard on yellow, its gunna get u at the regional
Goku Black will be just fine. Goku black has been the deck i win the most with
I would ask how often you play against TopKu 👀👀👀
@@UniXTCG roughly half my matches on untap are TOPku. Then again i had to make space for 3 sickle😅😅
Just dont run lab with 17, its too slow and can be zeno bottomed. You can just destructive strength at 3, like any other green deck and, from 4 energy onwards, you can just play the 17&18 card that effectively ramps 1 for 1 energy with a 20k body as a bonus.
Just heard that most of my locals are quitting after regionals because product is so hard to get and the game is too expensive. So I'm quiting too then.
This is sad, but if you cannot play in person and don't want to play digital, I don't blame you.
These first few sets are rough. Many stores did not order big in set 1 or 2 be because they expected it to be lack luster in sales like Masters.
On top of that distributors are being shady with One Piece and Fusion World.
Many stores are shorted but many boxes make it to Ebay or Facebook.
It's a mess and it's hurting the players
I just hope cooler is gonna be ok. I like the deck and I want to build it
I wish you luck buddy, it's pretty rough rn not with his playstyle not gaining anything this set and Yellow being a lol rough as a whole right now.
But I won't stop testing the color, just feels very rough rn.
I don’t get how starter ku is worse than u7 goku he can buff kefla which u7 can’t do he can defend 17 better or any battle card for that matter even if u7 goku plays kefla into gohan or 17 he only gets a buff on 1 card
U7Ku is actually able to do what he's supposed to this format. Which is go wide and smash face.
When you face the two, U7Ku is actually scary where as StarterKu just feels like a generic Red deck
Also between Reds minus effects and Blues bottom decking, his 5k means almost nothing on defense 😢
no more lives? = (
When set 2 drops on the 23rd we gon be on there
When does Blazing Aura release for DIGITAL?
on the 23rd go log in to the digital version you see the dates on it
Indeed the 23rd!
goku black should be higher lol my buddy tops locals all the time with it. and it got more consistent with the new set. just gotta know how to pilot it. i tried i suck lol my buddy mops people with it though .
Last set Goku Black could play well, especially if your opponent does not handle the critical pressure well and then folds under its top end.
But in set two I promise you, you don't want to awaken early as Blue and Goku Black has to awaken and that's really harsh for the playingfield rn.
You don't wanna be at 4 going into TopKus best turns. You also don't wanna be at 4 going into Greens best turns rn either
Ginyu is too low IMO. Cool list though. Looking forward to playing set 2!
It needed help and it got none T_T
Idk where it goes from here.
Board destruction is stronger than ever and it needs a board to fight
@@UniXTCG Ya true. It got Vegeta 3c, better awakening tools in bulma, maybe more. Will need to test. Aggro will be a powerful strategy to prevent powerful late game plays set 2, so could be helped by that alone. Not confident it is great, but it is probably better than Frieza or Yegeta.
The Problem is you guys dont know the new Rampe combo with androids to Play turn 5 8 cost Cell and Whitney the half Board
That's the thing, where are you at turn 5 after not interacting with TopKu?
I legit said that Green is in a weird place because it's top end I'd incredibly toxic, but TopKu and U7Ku make it very hard to stabilize as Green.
It's almost like yall just skip to the end and get mad xD.
My favorite lead is Gohan, please believe it tested Green 💚
@@UniXTCG you interacting ,you swing in his board or ko his 1 cost with kami
and yeah topku is strong but have a loos vs zamasu when you play vs a realy good zamasu player you have a realy big problem with topku
@mikelang311 kami is 4 cards out of a 50 card deck.
Most deck double up or more on answers to Roshi.
On top of that, you're not playing valid attackers until like 4 energy.
Yeah, that's more than enough time for TopKu to awaken and start slapping you.
Green is legit in a weird place because the color is POWERFUL but has a horrible time reaching that power vs the best deck initially in the format
@mikelang311 TopKu vs blue is very 50/50. I like Trunks more into TopKu but I digress.
Please please please give me a trunks breakdown
Monday ^_^
BROLY!
Damn green is going down thank god its always annoying seeing green players only. Also for those wondering the digital version is coming on the 23rd
For the love of Kami 😂.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Topku is just to quick to get your health and cards
Is it tho?? 👀👀👀👀
First one gonna say red is too strong nerf it etc.. I guess they are just green players , and this is what u deserve to being green player in season 1
Lmao I'm a Gohan stan but the tides have indeed turned
I just played with friends with proxy decks ... Kefla needs to be limited. Red deck kept topping due to kefla and her availability. Limit her to 2 and red would balance out
I think no one is complaining that red is too strong, people are complaining topku is too strong, if we took the new leaders out of the equation, blue might be the new mvp.
@@BamilokVGC ok, but broly and gohan are really insane match up, I can be ok if the leader have 25k or 35k defenders with ability but no one deck can win all time
The tcg is already dying to bad
It's not, there just weren't events. We have 6 tegionals in the next 3 months and they're all sold out
@@UniXTCG what about europe maybe just active in usa only?
@@Fradiger27 Uhhh for better or worse, it's popping off in the place that matters most for Bandai.... Japan.
is it popping good in japan do u have any info about that?
@@Fradiger27 Japan is running events at the same pace as One Piece. They've already had serial Gokus go out.
I also have a few friends in JP that I talk to
Clearly im going to beat every one with 17 deck u clearly dont know how broken the 4 drop android 17 and 18 play 4 drop get rid of 2 cards get back 3 not in rest mode u can play a 20k with a field card on same turn I'm sorry but u clearly shouldn't make a tier list before its tested
Big yikes here. 17 either forces you to play a lab and pass on 3, or play 17 and 18 and lab on turn 4 and pass.
Do you understand how much TopKu can do with 4 to 5 turns of not being pressured?
Usually it's a wrap at that point.
Also don't worry about my testing. I'm grinding this format out every day lmao
@UniXTCG clearly they don't know just how much you've been testing😂
Yeah androids unfortunately aren’t fast enough for Topku, this tier list is solid
@@UniXTCG To be fair man, you do know droids also get access to destructive strength right? You t3 GS, like every green deck. Next turn you play droids twice and youre at 7, just in time for t5 8drop. Its even not hard to find thanks to gero. I think you are limiting your thought process to lab way too much,
If your point is that topku kills them if they ramp, then why would you put cell any higher? he plays cell arena at 4 and topku kills him immediatly, since cell is also a 20k base. Pretty much any other aggro deck could probably do it as well. You are kinda trapped in this dreamlike scenario where they are not gonna attack you turn 4, for some reason, and then you play 8drop, 4 cell jr.s from hand and play a cell every turn.
@Phospholazuli I put Cell & Broly higher because they both offer things that Gohan and 17 do not.
Broly has better defenses with base power, but Cell provides the most toxic top-end of any Green leader.
Back to back to back Cells is actually devastating lol