Super Mario Bros. 3 Sold for $156,000!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Super Mario Bros. 3 sells for $156,000, Pokemon Red for $84,000, NWC for $52,000, and more auction news discussed!
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What do you think about some of these prices? Do you think it's a bubble or can these SEALED prices continue and be sustained?
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I think games like Mario and Zelda will hold up in value because they are iconic series that are still going strong, have great box art, and are fun to play even today. So they are highly collectible, especially the rare sealed copies. On the other hand, games like Spiderman for the Atari 2600 are probably not that interesting to hold on to and will likely not see a rise in prices.
Cant believe the UNIQUE Sega Pluto sold for only 86K
I'm used to this sideshow already. Pat I want see you turn a profit, get your stuff graded and auctioned off stat.
@@OM19_MO79 I think it's most people regretting not collecting sealed games when they where cheap...
Sealed games appeal to a very narrow market of people. Those people are looking for commodities that they can monopolize. You cannot hope to do that with boxed, or cart only copies because there are just too many of them.
That means regular game collecting markets will see steady, and realistic price changes. However, this sealed and graded market will go as batshit crazy as that small cabal of collectors will allow, and they won't be able to cash out unless they sucker some idiots into joining their game.
Also, I'm keeping all my sealed games out of the market. It doesn't matter what the prices grow to, its just something I find distasteful. When I die, my relatives can cash in if people are still cocking around with this stuff.
Worst black friday deal ever
*Pauses Video
*Checks Copy of SMB3
*Clowns to the left
*Bros to the right
*Stuck in the middle with you
The most common title on the NES selling for 6 figures is insanity.
Wow, I still have my Christmas picture of me holding up my brand new sealed SMB3 game as a kid (with the left bros.). Little did I know I was holding $156,000 in my hand in 1990 if I would've just tossed it into my closet lol.
If Pat or one of the other gold NWC owners got their cart graded and put them up for sale right now, one of these Heritage Auctions idiots would probably pay $200,000+. I know Pat loves his, but things are definitely peaking right now. Insane sale prices like this are not going to go forever. Pat should sell and laugh his ass off all of the way to the bank.
Nwc and actual rate games aren't selling well though. Heritage have turned down Nwc carts already. I bet Pats gold Nwc wouldn't make much more than 2 grand.
@@medes5597 2 grand?! Was that a typo? Lol
@@medes5597 didn't u just watch this episode, guess not
@@clipperz4life yes. These aren't game collectors they don't know what they're bidding on, and a gold zelda case with a label cut out with scissors and glued on where no "9.5+" gradings exist will likely not appeal and it won't make what its actually worth. As we saw when Mario 3 outsold the Nwc here. Pat would be better off selling a common game complete in box.
@@medes5597 1 year later and I'm still laughing my ass off at this
Unsustainable prices for "graded slabs" just like sports cards and comics, Hotwheels and action figures.
Slabbing comics prevents damage and further decay...grading sealed games seems silly honestly.
@@Clay3613 It's not hard for a seal to become accidentally broken, slabbing them prevents that. More people than not who get games graded are doing it specifically for sale purpose and on a sealed game even the seal itself is graded. If I was going to drop ridiculous money on a sealed game I'd definitely want to know how good the seal is. I would of course never buy a graded game unless I had a ridiculous amount of disposable income though, I want to be able to play every game in my collection. I do backup my expensive stuff though and just play the backups while keeping the original in the case.
@@cory99991 Some NES carts (such as Zelda) have lithium batteries that will eventually leak, ruining the game inside. It will be interesting to see if those titles still command high prices for slabbed sealed copies.
@@ParallelUniversity Yes that's something I've always thought about. Honestly I think they will still fetch high prices as long as the label remains in good shape, I find it's mostly non gamers who buy stuff at ridiculous prices like this.
This is part of the reason retro is becoming harder to get into, price wise. People thinking they have a very common gold mine.
I still don't understand why some would buy a graded sealed game. If I were to get something graded I'd stick to cards or coins.
I still have a sealed Greendog for Sega Genesis... it has sentimental value, so I'm not selling it, I may even open it to play it.
Greendog is gonna go up in price now that AVGN just played it recently. I’m thankful there are people like you willing to hold onto things. My old original cherry red 3DS with Super Mario 3D Land bundled won’t go anywhere even if I get it refurbished and cleaned up because my grandfather bought it for me with my mom and he’s like not into gaming and isn’t totally keen on me playing games all day. It’s special.
Oh that's the Nintendo world championship cart from the recent MetalJesusRocks video on the Sidequest Games store.
Pat get like 10 of your best games graded ... Put em up on auction ... Make a million dollars ... Then the market tanks in a couple years and you buy em back for $25,000 .
My house didn't cost that much....
sucks for you
Is your house a one bed apartment next to the city dump?
@@richyvandamme I live in a nice sub division in Michigan, most homes go for around $150,000. Do you live in CA where a cardboard box on the street costs $200k?
@@AceFondu my wife and I bought a 3 bed house in the UK for £300,000 and it's still a shithole
@@HernasRoom not if the currency is US dollars😉
I feel like your ancestors aren’t gonna be happy when they find out that Pats collection wasn’t liquidated at this point in time....
Why have kids when you can have cartridges? :)
These Heritage Auctions blow my mind and clearly demonstrate the lack of knowledge of the people bidding on these things, is Super Mario Bros 3 in a sealed box rare? It's definitely not an every day thing but I wouldn't go so far as to call it rare, I've been collecting for 8 years and have probably seen about half a dozen sealed copies of SMB 3 and I have never been looking for sealed games it's just a situation where I see a copy of it while I'm at a local game store.
The wild thing about this is comic collecting has the two fronts too. One where it’s the big flashy first appearance that’s the sought after one, and one where rarity, print runs, misprints, and actual first appearance mean something (ie. from another country or a magazine or fanzine). So comic collectors getting into retro games and going after stuff without looking into the rarity is wild. Unless they are more looking at it like the art world where a small group of people just keep passing paintings around to one another.
$156000 for a game that sold tens of millions of copies and was released on almost every Nintendo system ever developed. God I hate stupid rich people.
There was a Shantae that sold recently for over $12k. Pretty crazy.
I can’t believe a legitimately rare game like shantae goes for 12k, but that Pokémon shit sells for 78k or whatever they said. Show how little the people bidding understand about videogames.
Good thing I ordered the Limited Run re-release then.
@@MasterZebulin I’m proud to say I own an authentic cib copy in very good condition. Cost me $2350, plus tax ($2573 total). Bought in this past February. Most expensive game I’ve ever bought, but I love it. Shantae and my cib Little Samson are the Crown Jewels of my collection.
@@PaulRockey That is WAY too damn much for a video game. This is the reason I don't have a copy of Little Samson to begin with.
@@MasterZebulin I bought a Shantae recently, loose. It was a lot, but hey, I love the game.
They are just creating false market values of these items by having low value items sell high at their auctions.
Which sadly will definitely affect the ebay prices, which is extremely bad to the retro gaming community in the long run
@@Blood-PawWerewolf Yep. Thanks to a few rich assholes making false values on common games the whole retro community is going affected.
Some people just have too much money, somebody call these bidders parents, they need a talking to.
@LeadMe2TheBliss really?
Their parents are too busy being ceos of big companies.
Some of this stuff makes some sense, some of it doesn't. Like Ian said, complete in box sealed gameboy stuff is going to be really hard to come by. The original Pokemon Red and Blue for North America was STUPIDLY popular. Easily the best selling game on the system, and I say that because Tetris was a pack in. Yes Tetris sold a few million more, but it was a pack in. Either way. Red and Blue both sold nearly twice the amount of the next best selling title "Super Mario Land". The games have been one that would go down in video game history books. 99.99% of the copies that ever left a retail location with a customer got opened at some point in the last 20 years. That leaves a few thousand copies left sitting sealed. Some in shipping containers, some not. Over the 15+ plus years that the game was no longer in retail you have to imagine some large percent of those few thousand left sealed were open. Of the remaining, how many are in absolutely perfect shape. I'd say there are some. But until they are "found" and brought to market, we can either assume they are sitting in some damp warehouse, someones basement, in a trunk of a car that someone never cleans out... who knows.
It literally is people flooding in here with wayyy too much money.
I had a hard time with hearing a grey NWC went for six figures. It wasn't that long ago that the game was easily less than 10K. Given that, a gold one might go for half a million at an auction like this one.
I worked at BuyBack Games in Englewood, (Denver), CO. It got to the point where I would answer all calls, "Thank you for calling BuyBack Games! We currently do NOT have 'Super Mario Bros 3', we have not had it, and we don't know when we will get it in." The invariable response? "So, you don't have it?" You have to be patient with kids, I'm just commenting on the fact it was a HUGE deal when it was released.
@@mattybdbz4665 Interesting, I did not know that.
In MetalJesusRocks latest video he goes to a Portland video game shop and the owner shows him a 5.0 Wata graded NWC grey cart... No. 141.
People are more than doubling their money, this year alone, in stocks that have absurd speculative valuations; stupid money is probably going into this... stupid money can outperform the market some years.
So the Saudi guy who swapped his NWC cart for the pokemon red actually traded up based on these prices.
MJR met the guy on the otherside of that deal in his latest video
@@BlaizeV I saw that earlier.
and didnt Pat go in on the guy for trading a NWS for it?
@@omikeycanfly I think he did, but who'd have thought that pokemon would be worth this much.
@@lukesablade not trying to shit on Pat cause I love his and Ians content but Pokemon is the highest selling media ever by a long shot and like 2-3 times what the Mario franchise has done.
My guess is that there is only a handful in existence in comparable condition. It is possible but unlikely sealed cases of these survived. This game was very difficult to obtain when it came out and sold very well for a long time. I can see how stores and distributes may have had to sit on sealed cases of some games that didn't sell but SMB3 wasn't like that.
In my opinion, a NWC is a much better item than a case fresh sealed first print SMB3.
That is like finding a original superman comic in Perfect shape or a mickey mantle or babe ruth rookie card...it's not happening.
Am I the only one thinking of the comic book store guy in Simpsons?
I have 2 sealed games in my closet. Star Tropics 2 and The Three Stooges. I kept them sealed because I already had them and got them as a Christmas gift or Birthday from one my parents friends.
“This is like discovering plutonium... BY ACCIDENT!”
Sealed or not that game was so big they made an entire full length movie basically just to advertise it! 156k?! WHAT?!!
There isn't anything special about a WATA 9.2, it's the equivalent to a VGA 85+. Which is roughly what you'd expect from most games in store bought condition. Once you get to 9.6 and above. Chances are they've been pulled from a factory sealed case.
40% of this podcast's content consists of Pat ranting about how much someone paid for a video game. "It's more common than people think", "speculation", "you cant give away Atari", ect, ect...
I'm a long time loyal listener and love the show though. I love every second of these recurring conversations no matter how redundant they are.
Given most of the talk centers around retro games. It's reasonable much of it is going to be "look at what this retro game is selling for".
15:30 i was thinking this at the beginning of the episode. we all like are collectables, but at what point is it silly to not sell them?
I would have trouble thinking of a more rare game so rare
Never underestimate the nostalgia of the rich. Look at pokemon cards right now
I know someone who could 3D print cartridge halves and program a rom onto a chip and such and make a reproduction of these games. Illegal to sell but not illegal to just give to people. However games I want usually go for cheap. Or at least used to….. I’m excited for this bubble to pop since I just got my first job after college and I’m wanting to get more games to play.
I like how for half the video, the look on Ian's face says, "I just don't fucking care, Pat"
Does it have Shigeru Miyamotos DNA included in the box for that price?
I love SMB3 One of the best games I ever played
This is the most controversial comment I’ve ever seen...wow, have fun with the comments...
So good it is worth 156.000$
I got 2 Super Mario 3 games for christmas one year. Of course, I returned one copy and bought TNMT 2
2 great games! You were a baller !
The way they're applying comic book collecting logic to this stuff just makes no sense. Comic books are periodicals which were originally produced as disposable children's entertainment. If you didn't buy Fantastic Four #1 during the month or two it was on newsstands then you were out of luck. Videogames never worked like that. Super Mario Bros. 3 received multiple print runs as long as it still sold. In videogames the more popular a character is the LESS valuable their first appearance is because that's usually in a game that sold millions of copies and was available brand new in stores for years.
The only way I see mario 3 going up in price for the next auction is if there's a better graded one. So if the guy with a shipping box of them decides to sell them, he should just sell one for now before the price tanks.
Seriously? I can understand fucking NWC going for high because it is rare and unique but SMB3 or Pokemon red?!
*DON'T HATE THE PLAYER HATE THE GAME...🤷🏽♂️*
But SMB3 is one of greatest games of all time!
DkC3 is one of my favorite games ever and even I'm appalled with how much was spent on it let alone all these other games that should not be going for that much
that super mario 3 price is as insane as that pre-release Cyberpunk 2077 pre-release going for $13,000! Its coming out in a week!
The irritating thing about video games having a collector's market, they aren't like periodicals, which are practically impossible to counterfeit 100% identical to the original. It's perfectly doable to make a fake cartridge (the printed material might be another story, but some games still go for a lot even loose). Counterfeiting entire games new-in-box might never be a thing (you'd have to be freaking Walter White to get the shrink-wrap aging accurate, I'd imagine) but this collector mentality still encourages "repros" to be passed off as authentic.
I have a really nice CIB copy of SMB3 that I got a few years ago for like $20. Looks and plays great.
Edit: Upon closer inspection it is a Right Bros, not a Left Bros. It seems I've been duped.
Pats net worth drop 50gs with the grey going at 50.
Wonder when I can make me money back on a sealed Fallout new Vegas midnight launch edition 🤷♂️
60years probs :o
@@TheRealPowerRanger about right, I got the one sealed with "dont open until x date on it." Bought it, got called in for 2 years of 60 hour weeks and forgot about it until recently lol
2050ish
Even in France gossip medias talk about this auction. maybe because of the symbolic amount over $150 000.
Not surprised Mario got a higher price than NWC cart. Not to say both prices are crazy but Mario is just as relevant now as back then. Think about Elvis collectibles, model cars, trains etc - they have already peaked and there are far. Less people still collecting those items.
NWC will never be "cheap" but what young adult (under 30?) has a genuine connection with NWC of the early 90s?
As for Mario, pick an age.. That person will have a favourite Mario game they grew up with (for me it was Super Mario 2 & 3 [Wario] on gameboy). I'm 34 from Australia and I have no connection to NWC.
NWC is mostly an American bubble item, Mario is global.
Anyways, even ~$50K for any game is crazy, let alone $150k+... USD
If the Ghostbusters II was the GB or Famicon version, then it would be worth that money.
Probably not an easy decision but Pat you should grade and sell some games before graded buyers come to their senses. Nothing I have is rare or super mint but I am tempted to get a few of my CIB NES games graded and cash in if it's not too late (Zelda, Tyson, Contra). Heritage might be better than eBay but 20% fees are steep. If I want the games back maybe I can buy again if CIB prices go back down.
Somewhere in some warehouse is a box of new unsealed copy’s it’s bound to be the case
Scam? This is likely one millionaire selling to another millionaire (who are friends). Making it look like it sold for crazy money, just to make other morons start paying crazy money for video games. Meanwhile, the two millionaires give the money back to the original guy and the other guy gets him game back. Then they wait for morons with money (people they don’t know) to pay big prices for their plastic carts. 🙄
I was thinking the same thing. Looks like a pump and dump scheme.
If I had ever seen a sealed Mario 3 in the wild, I honestly wouldn't spend more than 300. After seeing how much it went for at auction, I STILL wouldn't spend 300 for a sealed copy. Legendary game though.
WHAT THE MOST A GOLD NWC GO FOR? 200k?
Surprised you guys didn't bring up the other 9.8 Red that was traded for that NWC gray the other month
What do you think an opened copy signed by Shigeru Miyamoto would be worth?
What games should I grab for my retron 5?
11:55 "I just hit my SEALED button and I couldn't hear it"
Pat's Deck Stream soundboard and Heritage Auctions are trying to sabotage him. 𝒟𝒶𝓇𝓃
Bought one of those in 1990, loaned it to a friend. Never got it back!
all that crazy price hype and then you mention the playstation prototype wet fart LOL. The retro video game market is crazy~
something fishy is going on . It was unopened in someones closet??? cmonnnnnn This was one of the most hyped game in history and to say you got home tossed it in a closet instead of the nintnedo? who gave this excuse OJ Simpson?
I can see the idea that someone ended up with 2 because they were gifts, but just toss in the closet and forget you have it? WTF?
I have a sealed copy of kingdom hearts 2 for PS2 from when I got 2 for Christmas and never throw anything out. Only thing on my Christmas list that year besides a wireless controller so I got 2 of each lol.
Edited because someone couldn't put context clues together so figured others may not get it either.
@@NintenDub yes it is, I got 2 copies. If you paid attention to the video, that's what we are discussing.
@@NintenDub yeah, the concept of getting 2 copies was talked about in the video we watched. I figured my comment would have been fairly obvious based on the video as well as the comments above mine in the thread. Apparently I was incorrect in my assessment.
@@NintenDub because I knew if I ran across someone so stupid they can't grasp context clues from the lone comment above mine, as well as the video and combine them, another sad idiot with no life is sure to follow.
*SEALED*
*Arf Arf Arf Arf Arf* 👏👏👏👏👏
I think that like all collectables that the market will in general crash, I think that the high end priced stuff will stay pretty high but people will realize that a lowly contra isnt worth that much. Investors will crash the market. I think covid has inflated the prices, it will come back down. it does sadden me though that someone like me, who wants to get old games i had as a kid and play them. likes having the manuals, makes it harder to get manuals as they go up in price cause people are trying to "complete in box" there games to seal and sell for stupid money.
The problem is whats an 7.5 go for
I am sure Tim Atwood has a pallet of the left hand game nib. Do you think iwada grades pallets?🤪
I bet it felt good to finally get a copy of SMB 3. There was no other way
money laundering or even worse someone seels a fake then it gets graded then sold for a huge amount And years later sold on saying it was graded and sold by a big name auction site. This isn't a comic that every page can be looked at and graded
Exactly! This is geek/nerd the equivalent of art auctions. There’s always a painting that’s pretty much worthless that goes for millions because of something that these auctions add to make the said painting worth way more.
when i read this i shit my pants i recently sold a sealed copy few years back for a few hundred now i’m pissed
Yikes.
I have an unopened smb3 right bros. Not graded. What’s the best way of making the most money on this with minimal effort and without getting it stolen or something or lost in mail
A small group of people are manipulating the market and it's going to be ugly when someone is left holding the bag.
Jeeze I need a time machine
"jumping fish"
you mean Jumping Flash?
Just goes to show that rarity isn't everything. I have GBA e-reader cards that are possibly as rare as an NWC cart, but wouldn't sell for anywhere near as much because no one cares about the e-reader.
Imagining paying that much money, than you take it home to open it.......
Do they ever grade things at 10? When I see these grades they seem arbitrary kind of like the way pitchfork reviews grades albums
How much you think a standard CIB left bros is?
I got my cib contra for $5 about 20 years ago
The fact that a "rare" super mario bros 3 went for triple what a NWC grey went for kind of tells you everything you need to know about the people buying these. They have no knowledge of video game collecting or what is rare. They are simply buying based on what they are told is special, the fact that Mario is a name and the number on the grading.
The left bros thing isn't rare, 18,000,000 copies of SMB3 were sold and if only 1-5% were left bros that would mean hundreds of thousands of copies exist. Obviously sealed ones in good condition are rarer but no more then any other game with hundreds of thousands of copies available to pull from. There could be thousands of sealed SMB3 left bros floating around out there. So so dumb, all of this. Yes, I'm aware that there are supposedly only 10-15 of these sealed left bros but I'm calling BS on that given the kinds of numbers were talking.
you can still buy sealed GTA III games new for 20 bucks
I don't really care for the graded games. All I care is the game still plays today after 30 years in the box or left out in the dust. As long as the game still plays Im going to keep it and play it once a while. If I get a sealed game I probably would keep it as it is.
Has there been any Sega Genesis #Graded games sell for a substantial amount??
Shawn, from Reserved Investments, can we please get a video on this?
Its the Mario suits, that's what amounted to the cost 🤷🤷🤷
I want to see a Superman on nes go for that much.
These people are too stupid to be responsible for money. Better they give it to someone else, like an auction house.
sounds a bit biased since you own a WC cart....its not just about supply, you have to consider demand. there's a reason why so many copies were made and why you say its the nes best game made...there's a lot of demand
That's just ridiculous.
Paying 156 grand based on the condition of paper and plastic? Madness.
I honestly don't understand spending this kind of money, not on a NWC.
Super Mario 3 probably sold more copies than tecmo bowl, which neither one is rare, everybody had these. I would expect a sealed nes with robi the robot to top this, kind of before nes was mainstream. I dont get this one.
WHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??????? Something is up with these huge inflated prices. $15,000 is a way huge inflated price, but 150k is criminal. Something is up with these prices. SMB 3 is the most popular game on the NES, so why is it so expensive, even sealed. And its not even a 9.8, not that it would make it worth it then but I just dont get it
I had sealed mario 2 i sold it on ebay for 80 im gutted it must be worth lots more
So what does an actual rare sealed game go for then, a million?
Probably not because most actually rare games aren't mario. Unless someone told them it was super rare they probably wouldn't even think about it.
No not at all rarity is irrelevant to these people.
The only people who care about extremely rare games are collectors who need to them to complete their collection, and big time collectors from other hobbies who want them as trophy pieces. In the rare instance you have something that is rare, high grade and in high demand like an Action Comics #1. Then yes, it will sell for 7 figures.
SEALED!
Seeeaaaaallleeeddddd left bros. Cool.