I compared both trailers - Zelda Tears of the Kingdome #3 Music is NEXT LEVEL!!
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The 2017 trailer is the greatest trailer of all time. It was basically the Zelda team announcing that they were back and ready to take over the industry. It was one giant flex and I loved it
Its fantastic but totk final trailer was better it's like the perfected cycle of what botw was trying to achieve now that hit different
Zelda is the greatest thing that ever happened to gaming community, PERIOD!!!!
I also like the 2017 trailer the best. Just the emotion alone is unmatched.
After watching this trailer over 30 times,this Soundtrack still brings tears to my eyes. What a masterpiece in composition!
Same
... of the kingdom!
Same bro, since these trailers were upload (tokt and botw), sometimes i rewatched it and i still have the same feeling
2:58 6 years later - and I've seen the 2017 story trailer like a million times - and it still gives me goosebumps amd tears every single time.
Whatever's in a Zelda trailer, will also be in the final game.
I´m sooo there with you! That trailer was and still is a masterpiece!
It was the DEFINITION of a cinematic trailer
Greatest trailer of all time
I like how heavy Rauru saying Link is the last line of defense hits after knowing what's happening with the sequel, but also how memed that quote is. Both are true. 😂
Loving the repeat viewing vs reaction approach. Bringing your expertise to something you don’t have full-on nerd context for is why I’m here.
For the 2023 trailer we hear Erhu, Biwa, and Shamisen. Which I absolutely love that Nintendo is connecting the music back to their indigenous Japanese musicality
21:00 that sort of reverse digital modulation is a call back to The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, which used a lot of that to represent the Twilight realm. Absolute void/vortex/portal vibe, you nailed that.
The eye reaction to the hard panning left and right is so real. lmao
26:40 Yeah, that is the main zelda motif, you'll find it in the majority of Zelda songs, even if it's just barely suggesting the idea of that melody. It's all over the place. As much as I love it, it's honestly kinda nice when it does't show up, these days. 😅
The amount of times I watched botw's trailer before I got the game is insane
I still watch it when I want to get my nostalgia going and get hyped lol
They use Koji Kondo's themes from past games in these compositions, but I think neither Breath of the Wild nor Tears of the Kingdom music is composed by Koji Kondo.
But I agree, the use of the classic themes is very effective and tasteful. Koji Kondo will always remain very unique in the game music sphere, but the new generation of composers are great too on their own right. BotW had some tunes that has been on repeat in my head ever since, and also the TotK trailer #3 has some very unique and bold music.
There's a chance this is the greatest clickbait ever
I’ll endorse this comment. Kondo seems essentially retired from Zelda at this point. And the two most recent Zelda pieces I can think of from him are Grandmas Theme (Wind Waker) and the opening cutscene (Skyward Sword).
Meanwhile he’s pretty involved with Mario. Odyssey and the Mario Maker games have a lot of new compositions from him
@@Lukulele1989 Kondo did compose pieces for Twilight Princess too. At least Midna's Theme. But it's pretty hard to find concrete information on these.
The composers for BotW are
•Manaka Kataoka
Yasuaki Iwata
Hajime Wakai
Manaka Kataoka is the lead composer. Although I can't find info on who composed the BotW presentation trailer.
OK! Found the info. I remember reading from somewhere that Nintendo commissioned an outsider film composer for BotW 2017 Presentation trailer. But I can't find that source. But the composer for the Botw Presentation trailer is Kousuke Yamashita.
I'm pretty sure the instrument in tears of the kingdom isn't a vocaloid or synth, but a traditional Asian instrument called "Erhu" in China. This might be the Japanese equivalent. In Chinese movies or performances it's often used to evoke strong emotions. It's dynamic slides, vibratos and the traditional background might be some explanations for this emotional effect on recipients. Greetings from Berlin, Germany.
Yep it is an "Erhu" indeed! recognized it right away, I love this instrument.
Breath of the Wild (and presumably Tears of the Kingdom) was composed under Hajime Wakai's direction. Kondo hasn't been highly involved with Zelda since Twilight Princess in 2006 (he served as advisor for a couple of years after, though).
Legend of Zelda is a pure distillation of the Hero's Journey, he's Perseus and Gilgamesh and all the other, but YOU play as him, its why its always popular series, it taps into a primal storytelling thousands of years old.
Aloha :) Yep, I changed the thumbnail - I got many comments that I was wrong about "who" composered the music for the trailer - I do appologize and stand corrected. Can some out ther efindout for me who composer the music for the TRAILER, please? Not to be confusing with the title - I listened to the 2017 version first and then the 2023 trailer starting at @12:43 - AWWWRIGHT!!
Ocarina of Time has been the last work by Koji Kondo alone on the Zelda series and he has had little involviment with Zelda after Wind Waker, he's occasionally credited in later games but that's mostly because of the main zelda theme.
Of course the game with the most iconic ost was his last lmao. His magnum opus 😊
I miss him
I love the Legend of Zelda franchise so much. Triply so, the music. Those first eight notes of the main theme are perfect. In two bars, it illicits adventure, adversity, and hope. And I will never not be moved to tears by it.
Watch Zelda Music Theory. He does an amazing deep dive
I love that you compared and contrasted these two!. I'm nearly 40 and I grew up with the Zelda franchise. It's my favorite.
A lot of people hated the way they used music in Breath Of The Wild because they had been used to wild fanfares playing throughout. But I think they struck a perfect balance between ambient noise and full on cascade in the areas that were needed. If you listen closely to the music in the four main doungons, AKA The Devine Beasts, they added a subtle Morse code message in to each that matched with each champion's persona. Mipha and Daruk both start very early on followed by Urbosa. Revali's starts the latest and they are all the same message: SOS. Towards the end the messages change to SAD, which has been speculated to be "Search And Destroy" as Ganon has taken over the Devine Beasts by that point and the champions have died.
Koji Kondo is the best composer that most people have never heard of. He is the John Williams for video games.
Geebz hope you're doing good. The totk trailer really hit me harder than many trailer in the last decade, something about the orchestration, the energy of it feels like a real opus somehow. The shifts from adventurous to quite fearful and then resolute and victorious. Feels like a call to arms almost and like there's real gravitas to the themes being communicated that you don't get very often anymore. Love it. Reminds me quite a bit of the older compositions of proof of a hero from monster hunter.
Hey brother, glad to see you still enjoying some jammin' video game music! I'm surprised you haven't done the one I'm about to suggest yet, but you really should because it's brillaint. I'm referring to "Battle" from Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Torna: The Golden Country. Check it out when you can!
The level of sophistication in this trailer theme is insane if you think about it for one second. You get of course this structure mixing nostalgia, calm, epicness and dread that works very well, but the range of sounds and instruments used is very broad. The unsettling use of reversed vocals, the shamisen that goes perfectly with the subtle piano for the calm parts, the bold saxophone for the epic parts, the almost tribal drums during the part on ganondorf... So cool man
Real cool to see you piece together the beats and the story just from watching/listening to the trailer.
20:20 that’s the main theme of the entire franchise. It’s quoting itself from back in 1986. And I’m sure you’ve heard it, it’s one of the most ubiquitous video game songs out there.
what you said with the intimacy when showing the sword in the first trailer fits so sooooo well with how its like in the game when you find it
Your analysis is so great!
Hey, glad to see you are still doing these videos, don’t feel pressured to put out loads but I appreciate them when you can put one up. 👍🏻
Let me tell you, watching Tears of the Kingdoms trailer 3, it illicits such POWERFUL emotions from all the myriad of feelings and experiences from all my years of loving this franchise. I started link to the past when I was 4 lol.
The beats in that trailer are so magnificent and that character, ganondorfs reveal means a LOT to fans. His theme music setting up the reveal was incredible. The beats in the entire trailer are all pulled from different zelda sources, but are appropriate for whats being seen, and it feels like a culmination of decades of these zelda games colliding into one massive climax
Love hearing your breakdowns of all this, especially with your relatively new experiences to these franchises.
Hey man, please look into the Mass effect trilogy music, it'll be a big hit on your videos guaranteed :)
Koji Kondo did not make the music for Breath of the Wild and likely isn't in the new game either. Hajime Wakai was the sound director and Manaka Kataoka and Yasuaki Iwata composed in BOTW.
With the Botw t2017 tailer they undersold the game with the trailer. Some companies hype games up but launch like crap (Cyberpunk 2077) but Nintendo's big games almost always live up to the hype.
This was great. Zelda has incredible themes and motifs that have rippled through the games since 1986, and the music is as key to the games success as John Williams was to Star Wars. Even much of the gameplay involves playing instruments, so music is integral to the series which makes it a great choice to analyse.
The main theme coming in at the title card of the totk trailer 3 gets me every time
Truly special and epic for the 20th Zelda game
7:51 it was at this moment in the trailer I knew I had to play this game. True story, and it's was my first Zelda game.
Personally, I thought BotW's final trailer was better than TotK's final - music included - BUT that's not to say TotK's was bad. I was particularly impressed by the erhu/suona combo. The mixture of Eastern and Western instruments really captures the ancient/legendary aspects of the series (and obviously TotK itself).
Yeah agreed, the 2017 botw trailer is fucking legendary. People will be watching it for decades. It was def a “we’re back bitches” kind of vibe lol
This two game trailers are by far the best of all time. Without a doubt a perfect blend of music, effects and gameplay.
The power coming from the music during that first logo reveal around 35 seconds in is amazing
Fucking Zelda soundtracks man……..
Glad to see you back at it! Hope you are doing well!
sir I adore your energy. The trailer composition is very specific I feel, i would LOVE your you to review the TOK soundtrack on the weekend when it comes out.
It's so interesting learning all this stuff! :D
The three notes at the end are Zelda's Lullaby. Insanely well composed.
only koji's influences and inspiration was used man, are new composers since BotW.. miss Koji, but they seem to be doing a great job especially in the upcoming Tears of the Kingdom
I mean I love some of the new music but kondos final work was ocarina which is the best the music has ever been in the series. I hope he makes a comeback one day .
21:33 Pretty spot on, I think. The game story is thought to be centered around Zonai race, which was only hinted in the previous game by various ruins, but they suddenly appeared now. Zonai seem to have some form time-manipulating technology (quite common theme in the Zelda franchise btw), which is reflected in reversed vocals.
If you listen to the individual tracks for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom you'll find that a lot of the tracks are very calm and laid back, and it's like that when you're actually playing the games themselves, like you have a lot of quiet and ambient moments as you wander around the world. Music picks up when you approach certain places you'll get a small bit of music playing somewhat softly in the background, and then you stumble across a settlement which have their own theme tune to it. Like you stumble upon a stable, you get a very cheerful catchy tune playing.
If you visit a village settlement like Kakariko Village you get a very flutey kind of music, and very Japan-esc feel to it with the type of instruments that are used like the Flute and then the drums that go along with it because they're in a kind of enclosed mountain area with tall mountains that surrounds the village on all sides. Compared to another village called Lurelin Village which is on the coastal line right next to the ocean you get a very soft steel drums that are used which gives it a tropical resort feel to it all because it's a fishing village after all.
One of my most favorites in Breath of the WIld and Tears of the Kingdom, since the music is present in both games is when you're riding on the back of a horse trotting along a path, you get a quick jingle jangle with the sound of the pianos playing followed by violins which plays the main melody, the piano's play like you're trotting along, it's all very quick and short notes. I recommend giving it a listen if you haven't already. I hope you'll do more music analysis for Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, because there's a lot to go through for all of them, especially for Tears of the Kingdom.
That is the game though. It absolutely looks like this & though there's lots of laid back exploration in between the battles are very kinetic & physics based
thank you for doing this!
i would love for you to do the dark souls 3 main theme , it is in my opinion one of the best videogame music pieces ever written
I'm from Spain and I love your analysis and reactions to videogames, because many times without knowing the game you perfectly capture what the game's music wants to convey.
I wish you much success in what you do.
Greetings.
Wonderful video as always! And your thoughts and comments are so interesting! 😊 I really, really hope you dive further into the world of Zelda - a beautiful video game franchise with incredible music throughout all games ☕️
Having played Tears of the Kingdom, the music from the establishing shots at the very beginning of the trailer, knowing where we hear it in the game then - like finally after so so so much time, some pieces of the world got closer as the sky islands to a certain someone. It really made me sad watching this part, knowing.
And the end shot of Zelda saying that Link should find her, ending with few notes of Zeldas Lullaby. Foreshadowing how heavy things will get. Like its a massive Spoiler to say why this is so sad.
I forgot the first trailer, holy shit that second trailer is basically the same as the first
FWIW I don't think Kondo did the composition - he hasn't worked on Zelda since Skyward Sword and is basically semi-retired at this point. Good video!
There's a lot of mystery shrouding this game, and themes of time travel and time manipulation, thus the reverse voices, hinting to these themes
this is so good
I'm beyond excited for this game!
That was an erhu at the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom, not a voice or vocaloid. A fantastic eastern string instrument that needs more exposure.
cant wait for this game
I know it might not be my place to ask this - and that this kind of request isn't cool - but I'd love to watch your reaction to a track called Kingdom of Predators. Since you enjoy beautiful orchestration and storytelling through music, I think you might like it. (it's very short!) :). Nice videos from an old & big Zelda fan
9:05 in all fairness, the original trailer had Japanese voice actors and Zelda wasn’t so soft-spoken.
Here’s a link to the trailer with the Japanese acting if you’re ever interested: ua-cam.com/video/1yIHLQJNvDw/v-deo.html
Yeah her Japanese va was incredible
The first trailer is AMAZING.
If you like those reverse vocals, check out Tears of the Kingdom Trailer 2
Each Zelda Games brings a new instruments: we have chinese and japanese instruments and the saxophone!
Yeah, there are many companies that are deceptive about their trailers, which is often due to them showing off the game too far away from its release. The closer to release a trailer is the more accurate it tends to get though, and this trailer is of a fairly finished product. Nintendo is also rather trustworthy when it comes to this and rarely show off a game too early, it's one of the many reasons why they are one of the more reputable game developers to begin with. What you need to be wary about is trailers using a lot of CGI, basically trailers not showing proper gameplay; this trailer showed believable gameplay that is somewhat comparable to the previous game, mixed in with what is likely to be actual in-game cutscenes. Thus it's safe to assume you will be getting what you're seeing with this one.
The “vocaloid” you’re hearing during the establishing scenes is actually an erhu. It’s a traditional Chinese string instrument.
Regarding your idea of listening to a song before hand. You could record your first listen and give your thoughts, then add a section afterwards that has your more in depth analysis. it would be more work obviously, but that's a possible solution.
I’d really like to see you react to all the Smash Bros character reveal trailers. Each of those trailers tend to have music from the games those characters came from.
I've been playing videogames since 1996, and breath of the wild is my favourite one. You should definitely play it.
There is actually quite a bit of cooking.
Nintendo main games are always a joy to play and revisit. I just love the buzz and excitement for their new releases, Tears of the Kingdom looks incredible.
Keep up the great work I find myself watching your videos a lot. Please check out the OST from Castlevania Symphony of the Night. One of the best.
If I could like a video twice or more I would definitely give it to your video here.
An interesting one would be the first tears of the kingdom trailer and the reversed version
Love your stuff!
I hope you'll react to Tears of the Kingdom final trailer! The music is absolutely mind-blowing.
I believe the 2017 trailer music was the work of Kosuke Yamashita
Have you ever listened to Baten Kaitos OST?
I made a playlist that has all the rest of the Breath of the Wild tracks for potential future streams- ua-cam.com/play/PL3l6LeJCRQ8Z0mAAv6-r-ZdKS4NSnNqvG.html
You can't trust promotional material for many AAA games from other studios. but that doesn't apply to Nintendo. What we are seeing in this trailer, as with all recent Nintendo trailers, is all in-engine scenes and gameplay from the finished product running on the actual hardware. Other companies will show you amazing animated scenes that aren't in the game at all and look nothing like the game. Nintendo doesn't do that.
Listen to duel of the fates from star wars. You'll love this masterpiece
Hana-bi OST - Sea of Blue
Pleaaaaaaase do Zelda’s fairy fountain
the 2017 trailer is the best trailer and one of the best music themes EVER
Ugh…my wife and I just had a huge costly care repair meaning I can’t get this game on release.
Geebz, please, listen to Rain World ost and a fan made arrangement of another zelda game, the arrangement is called theophany- time's end.
I have a suggestion: record your first reaction, listen again (without recording), then record another section of the video that's just a more detailed breakdown. What do you think?
I don't klnow what chat was yanking you so bad during stream about expectations VS reality from the trailer but the trailer is a very good representation of how the game will play. breath of the Wild's final trailer was really accurate to the gameplay as well.
First time reactions are insubstantive without good analysis. Good analysis is great all on its own.
KairuHakubi going out of their way to be the most negative person in the chat
I think it might be nice to see the blind reaction as well as a follow-up analysis. It's not like the people who are fans of this material will get tired of listening to it haha
Hello there GeebZ I just now watched these two Twitch Streams where you listened to the Breath of the Wild OST and I have something important about that to say. That playlist is faulty. It is missing several Tracks. Like the last thing you listened to was Hyrule Castle Interior and well there is als an Exterior Version that was missing (which is my fav Track in the entire ost so if you miss out that would be sad) and several more.
The true complete playlist would be by ‘SquidGamerGal’ but I don’t think you’d want to go through that one completely again with many tracks that you heard already so I’ll leave it to you. I can write a full comment for all the tracks that are missing in that other playlist or you click through it yourself or you have a other idea I haven’t said here.
He is looking so scary in the thumbnail what the heck?
Hmm, you're right - found a better pic :)
In lots of games you can't trust the trailers. In Zelda, however, the game is as epic as the trailers. In these two cases, particularly. The second one, the game is even better than the trailer, I must say.
Different main themes played on the trailers, I must point out. Characters and locations themes, I mean.
I’m not sure if you’ll see this, but if you do, please please please check out the Unravel game soundtrack song (first steps). It would mean the world to me abd it’s right down your alley. Thanks for reading 🙏
Best trailer ever made.
It surpassed the BotW trailer imo ❤
i wouldn't say the same about the actual game though
@@anapoda3081 Nah its better than botw. Both are great but totk blows it away imo
@@dalethompson6853 dungeons are worst, story is worst and the game is even easier...hell, even korok hunting is easier lol And the crafting is nothing but a gimmick
I consider trailers to be filled with spoilers so I don't often watch them before I play something (especially smth I know I am going to play regardless) so I will be back in a month after I ve finished the main storyline of TotK
The saddest thing is... just like BotW's 2017 trailer... i'm pretty sure that music track won't even be in the actual game... :'(
Hey, I know I'm SO behind the trends but OST to Disco Elysium made by British Sea Power is something really special. Would be interesting for me to see how you to dissect some of it like Wirling in Rags (Night theme) ua-cam.com/video/jtMM1VFr9Ik/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/kNwd56ZhoPI/v-deo.html or Insulindian Miracle ua-cam.com/video/wfIO6iotmw8/v-deo.html
It baffles me that even seasoned western composers do not immediately recognize an erhu's characteristic sound when they hear it. Surely the erhu is among the top 3 most commonly used solo instruments in Asian traditional music. And yet I keep seeing this happen. This man even mistakes it for a human voice. ( 20:45 ) I don't know what to say.
I would get a ton more value out of your videos if you spent some time with the content first and got comfortable with it. More guided tours than reactions 🔥
Its a beautiful trailer. never played the game but i often look up this trailer its very emotive