Something funny about Gravity Falls is that Alex Hirsch did a fake leak where he stood in a production room where there was a TV in the background that had McGucket writing the journals to throw off people who knew Stan had a secret brother who wrote actually wrote the journals.
@Lustfullynova like the n word it was used to like take control of people with dark skin color then now the people with dark skin color use it as like as a sign of freedom. (Don't put a 💀 to my comment please)
@@RickyDorvilier-hx6yf ya' know this comparison didn't even come to mind, I get what you're saying though but you could've definitely used a better analogy 😭
I find it VERY interesting that Jason describes Cassie in almost the EXACT same way that charlie is characterized in every single version of the fnaf timeline, caring, going out of her way to help others, and most of all actually caring for the animatronics, it feels very similar to how henry described his daugher in fnaf 6. Makes me think of the Dual sisters theory you covered recently. Im really interested to see what steel wool is trying to say
You know, the way Gregory and Cassie are supposed to be sort of rivals really reminds me of Micheal - Charlie dynamic where one is supposedly helping the murderer and the other one is helping the murdered. Or in that case it would be rather a William - Charlie, since Gregory is really straight up murdering the animatronics, while Cassie tries to help them.
The idea of Vanny being an entity that was creators when Vanessa was under Glitchtraps control is pretty smart. Not only would we be able to see Vanny again, but we would see her in a new form. I’m excited to see where FNAF will go next, and I have faith in Steel Wool. 🙏😀👍
Things I think. 1. I personally don’t think glitchtrap is fully dead, I’m more under the belief that perhaps most of his code was destroyed and it’s caused him to be severely weakened to the point where he won’t be able to take on as much of a active role, but we’ll most likely get Vanny/VANNI to take on the role of the next main antagonist in the game she appears in now in Cassie’s mind. 2. I think chica may be rescued by a child of her own like how Freddy has Gregory and Roxanne had Cassie, perhaps, maybe Amelia from the tales story ggy. 3. If glitchtrap is dead perhaps the next villain will be another variant of the mimic, perhaps even Tiger-Rock from the books. 4. If the tales books are canon to the games we may have to explore other pizzaplex’s. 5. If Vanny/VANNI really was able to be separated from Vanessa I think the same will happen to Cassie, but instead of trying to find a new host body she’s gonna build herself a animatronic body. 6. I’m under the belief that Cassie’s dad is gonna return from being put inside the mask-bot, perhaps he’ll find a way to travel through the pizzaplex network and transfer his mind into a new body or get his own body back.
I've been pretty big on the Chica idea since the first Ruin poster. I mixed up Amelia's named thinking someone said Abigail, which led me down a big spiral of comparing Chicas and Babys. Of the Ruin we got, one sort of thing I wanna change would be if you didn't shatter Monty or Chica in base, they'd have a different model in the DLC, or potentially act differently if Gregory didn't hurt them.
I have been saying this ever since HW2 came out. Cassie's dad, Gregory and Vanessa have to be working togather during HW2. The Vanny ending is probably just a metaphor of what happened, not how it happened. Cassie's dad sacrifices his body for Glitchtrap to take it over completely (After all he is the perfect vessel as a fan of Bonnie, being a dad and being a fazbear technician) Cassie's dad is left behind in the system of the Pizzaplex with Glitchtrap completly gone from it now. (Ending 1) Vannessa who pretends to be Vanny kills Glitchtrap in Cassie's dad's body, probably with the help of Gregory, after Cassie's dad makes the ultimate sacrifice. (Ending 2) This makes both endings work, while killing Glitchtrap and making the new Helpi mimic, the driving force inside of the Pizzaplex system.
I mean he does drop the elevator with a friend who obviously cared enough for him to go into this creepy ass place and try to save him. Lil bro is definitely sus..and how he lied to freddy about the upgrades we get from everyone else..yeah. He definitely lacks certain empathy not only for animatronics but for human’s as well
i kinda wanna cry at the carrot cake teaser, the thought of seeing cassie again... makes me emotional, foor some reason- maybe, just maybe- she will get to see gregory again? i kinda wanna see her as a villain tho' for some reason, to me makes the most sense from what happpened to her in the ending of ruin... idk idk
I think that M.X.E.S. is what the mimic line from the books was controled by with the acronym being: Mimic eXternal Endoskeleton System security. as gregoy calls it the M.X.E.S. security so thats what i think
4:40 this has really made me feel stronger about the graves in hw2 being death order. Obviously gravestones are closely associated with death, plus with the death order being something that is often in the forefront of discussion in the fanbase, I think it's likely they would have deemed it misleading if it was not meant to represent that. I know a lot of people think it is the order of spirits resting, but with previously using the unlit animatronic heads to show the absence of spirits, I find it very unlikely they would swap to using lit torches to represent spirits leaving. It just unnecessarily further complicates the symbolism.
What if the Freddy with the "prototype" stamp on it is actually a prototype design and they just forgot to remove the stamp and said "Oh well. They know now..."
Quick aside about calling Cassie's dad Jeremy: I was under the impression that Jeremy was supposed to be the bite of '87 victim (or maybe Mike again). Can anyone give me a shorthand version of why Rye reckon's Jeremy is Cassie's dad, or point me in the direction of which video to watch?
I don't know if this is a joke or not so I'll give you a genuine awnser. It is a month where people like me (the lgbtqia+) celebration stuff like the acquisition of equal rights and stuff like that. The month is also shared with men's mental health month.
It’s a time of year in celebration of all gender, sexual, and romantic identities and sexualities. And how we should normalize and celebrate them all, no matter how different we may be all be in those ways. We’re all welcome.
Vanny doesnt seem to line up with the helpie AI. It seems much more likely that helpie is the mimic, who is baby. This explanation also doesnt explain moon. To explain that, if we think vanny is a parallel for vanessa, and moon is a parallel for Gregory. Then them "crushing" glitchtrap could be them putting it into the original mimic endo and trapping it there with MXES. However that would all have to happen before ruin, which is plausible, hut makes the Jeremy maskbot hard to explain. However if we think Vanny is Babies new persona, it wouldnt be the first time she expelled controlling personalities to be free?
Wild thought but what if the Mimic is an animatronic copy of William created by Henry or someone else, similar to how Henry made animatronic copies of Charlotte in the books? Its just a thought that came to me while watching this, idk why.
9:41 - just noticing here that the lightning bolts on each freddy ‘ s chest arent the same ! Or at least that what it looks like ( don’t attack me if in wrong please ! )
What if the prototype stamp on freddy's foot is implying that all the ending could be canon. Think about it. if Freddy's is manned almost entirely with Staffbots From Construction Workers, to Security Guards. Is it possible that All the endings couldve happened and that the staffbots simply reset everything each time? as long as theres nothing actively conflicting here is it not possible to combine all endings into a cohesive timeline assuming gaps where memories get reset/things get rebuilt? In the books theres a system in the pizzaplex called the storyteller which is an ai writing a story for the animatronics to follow. could it be that theres actually a system thats managing and creating each of the endings for security breach by adjusting memories and managing staffbots to reconstruct.
2:24 I was very supportive of pride. I actually had 2 friends who transitioned back in Highschool. Some of my best friends. 2 years later one of them ended themselves because they wanted to de-transition and was called transphobic for it by other members of pride. The other friend told me all about it after he passed. The ONLY problem I have is that transitioning doesn't work for everyone, and that there are people in lgbt that dont care really. You apparently only mattered if you agreed with them. I really miss him. I didn't know I would be called out for that tho, and I came to this channel because i liked your theories, cats, and i played your videos while i slept cause you have a calming voice to me. Been watching for over a year. Now all i will remember is this timestamp directed at me. 2:24
If you are supportive of Pride (which celebrates and fights for stuff like same sex marriage, people being able to express themselves how they are without fear of losing basic human rights, trans rights, and much more) then he isn't talking to you. If you are saying you are no longer supportive of Pride, then the message stands. I'm sorry for your loss, but I don't really understand what your friend's tragic story has to do with Rye's reasoning.
I've been sitting on a thought for a while, when you get to the final Princess Quest 2D room with the Player Arcade sprite, you have to kill them. Does that mean you die or become a part of the system?
I could be wrong but I don't think Cassie's dad wears the same Vanny mask. It is entirely plausible that some stranger picked the mask (considering she left it there at the pizza plex in her ending) but it is also established that employees had masks with the rabbit face. Vanessa was an employee too. It's entirely possible she had her own mask that she sewed (?) onto the Vanny suit* that is very clearly hand made. That being said I think these masks are a problem now just in general. Worth mentioning that the Vanny ending in Help Wanted does not look like Vanessa helping Glitchtrap. She very evidently is waved at by him and before she closes her hands you can see BOTH of his hands up almost afraid as she clearly CRUSHES him. If it _is_ Vanessa then it's entirely possible this is just her digital persona or whatever part of her left within the digital world freed from him. MXES is (alongside Bonnie I suppose) another confirmed "good rabbit". I feel we're getting to see more and more "good rabbits" to contrast all these "bad rabbit" ones. I'm a lil drunk so take all of this with a grain of salt.
If glitch is dead why do we see his shadow in ruin?Why would they kill him,It would just make the lore even harder for them to manage.If glitchtrap is apparently mimic1 doesn't he have more of his bits in the mimic endoskeleton??Helpi (which i believe is glitchtrap)seems to have a connection with mimic as Gregory (ill call him grimic),As we all know glitchtrap WAS uploaded throughout the Plex, Somewhere around at the start of ruin Cassie enters a security office if im not mistaken,Grimic says that hes in the pizza Plex and then it instantly played footage of Gregory running through the halls, Which would be impossible because it wasnt there,So it's already recorded footage who glitchtrap would obviously have,Grimic even interacted with helpi while It was talking to Cassie about getting rid of mxes and literally as we get rid of mxes the place literally starts getting more glitchy and broken (ar world),What do you guys think?
I don’t think Jeremy is trapped in that claw machine. I think his journey continues in another game, and we just cut at that point because that’s where the story of Help Wanted 2 ends. Before we enter the claw machine, we go down an intact model of the sister location elevator. It just so happens that Sister Location is believed to be directly under the ruined FNAF 6 location, our hub area for Help Wanted 2. I’d like to believe that Jeremy is down in the sister location bunker at the end of Help Wanted 2 around the same time that Cassidy winds up there at the end of RUIN. They’d be in the same place at the same time, reunited to finish off all the AI nonsense at its source.
i feel like the vanny we see at hw2 is just vanessa tricking glitch trap to kill him. I dont think she left the player to rot in thr vr world but i think its step one to free him from it. The M.X.E.S machine could have been used to keep like animatronic data and stuff like that in and then modded to have the new system in it
I don't see why you would think that Vanessa is "killing" Cassie's Dad here. If both endings are canon, then PQ4 would most likely need to happen after the main ending and thus Ruin, meaning he would already be dead and inside Maskbot, by which point... What is Vanessa supposed to do? She merely tells him to get Glitchtrap's memories, kills the virus and then goes away, she doesn't do anything specific to him Furthermore, I doubt that if there is an actual Vanny conciousness left behind that it would lay in her mask and end up with Jeremy because Jeremey's mask just... isn't Vanny's mask? The VANNI mask is a modified version of the (virtual) HW1 mask, whereas Vanny's mask is exclusive to her in SB and her appearance in HW2. Unless she somehow transferred her conciousness to a completely different mask off-screen (which we have no real evidence aside from the AR world being interconnected I suppose) or that Vanny also had a VANNI mask (which we also don't have any evidence for), I don't see that being the case Don't take this as an attack or anything, any discussion is good discussion! I just thought of giving my own two cents on the matter. Good video!
3:50 the difference is the emotional impact of the things happening in Gravity falls is still present on a first watch, you understand what is happening on a deep enough level for any given episode, with additional hints to the rest of the series sprinkled in Security breach came out 3 years ago and its narrative is still so obtuse that it's difficult to actually enjoy I do like fnaf and all the theorising, and the sheer openess of security breach makes it interesting but in an almost ironic sense, and his point of comparing sl to gf makes for a shit comparison cause the narrative of gf is like, good
Bro rye I love your videos man I’ve been subbed for a little over a year now but it is so hard to watch your videos with the background music you have on the videos it’s so loud and distracting that I can’t even focus on what your saying because I’m so annoyed
@@RyeToast I always use it based off of the sound of people’s voices since you get a lot more from voices than appearance sometimes. Funnily enough, I had no idea one of my best friends was a trans girl cause I thought she was just a cis girl with a really deep voice.
Ok well thanks for the very uncalled for insult. That felt like a very careless assumption and harsh generalization towards people who dislike, disagree with, or are neutral on certain aspects of pride ideology and culture. Also before you send mindless hate towards me I respect him and his existence. Just because someone dislikes, disagrees with, or is neutral on aspects of an ideology does not mean they hate someone. I shouldn't have to explain that but I guess common sense is not common anymore these days. It's unfortunate because I like his content but I guess because I have different thoughts or opinions than he does that makes me a terrible person and not welcome here. This sentiment feels pretty closed minded, unnuanced, and irrational. I usually like to leave ideologies and other political crap out of things like this but if he's going be this overtly bigoted about it than I guess I will just have to stop watching if thats that way he truly feels.
I mean, there's no evidence to connect carrot cake with the crying child. I see your point but there's just no correlation between the two. Never have we seen in FNAF 4 anything resembling carrot cake.
@@Moonlight_0419 I know there’s nothing connecting carrot cake with the crying child, just maybe a red herring that’s he’s not talking about Cassie but he’s talking about CC instead… Carrot cake being CC.
@@Imtrying_girl it’s just that every other character has been referenced and/or somewhat relevant to the story besides him. He might show up, but it’s unlikely IMO.
✨ DIGITAL. CONSCIOUSNESS. ✨ I love that you also picked up on the idea that just because Vanessa is free doesn't mean Vanny is destroyed! My Vanny/Jeremy theory is so similar to yours! I feel like we are finally beginning to really understand how this digital world works.
The fact that M.X.E.S is stylistically linked to a movie from 1983 specifically feels meaningful to me. 1983 is a year in FNAF lore where nearly everything important happens, in regards to the Afton era of the timeline. Linking the M.X.E.S machine to this period feels like the devs pointing to that era and telling us to look for connections.
During that era the government would use X to stand for experimental such as the MX missile, so- Mimic eXperimental Enclosure System? Alternatively, Mario came out in 1985 so- Mario’s Xylophone Evening Serenade?
@@adammartinez8061 it could be either one, they’re both engineers after all. My personal belief is that William made the console, since the bunker it’s stored in is theorized to be connected to the Sister Location bunker, not to mention it contains a proto-scooper. I doubt the console would be easy to move, given it size and the processing power needed to keep that thing running, so it’s likely that the console and location come in a package, maybe even alongside the mimic itself.
Probably because Matpat isn’t doing theory videos anymore, plus I think Matpat has his hands on FNAF more now that he isn’t and knows too much now. (ie his goodbye video ending with Scott)
@@Imtrying_girl That was purely for cinematic purposes, I think. I do not believe he was told much lore, if at all. After all, he and Scott agreed to not talk about lore or anything when they met during the filming of the FNaF Movie.
It's because they created Monty specifically for Security breach and Ruin but they then just had us destroy him with no hope for redemption. Monty was Death fodder and they expected us as Cassie to be okay with that
Its probably more to do with her hating him, Cassie blames Monty for the disappearnce of Glamrock Bonnie since that is meant to be part of the "official story" created by Fazbear Entertainment, with Bonnie being her dad's favourite its understandable why. We even hear response to the appearance of the different animatronics, Freddy, Chica and Roxy she was concerned about but Monty got stuck with the label "that Monty thing".
ikr, with freddy while his body may be too far gone, at least his head and general consciousness is with gregory (as long as that ending happens) but for monty? he's just destroyed, almost no hope for redemption or healing from what the virus did to him
I think the implication that the "healer" has been corrupted, and the rampant placement of Nightmarrione (a nightmare version of the old "healer") is interesting.
Personally, I think one of their intentional red herrings is the PQ3 hints. Call it copium, but I REALLY think they’re trying to build up to us as the audience trusting Vanessa, only for her to turn Vanny on us. That seemed to be a plan in the original Security Breach considering the deleted lines, and if Vanny was supposed to be our guide in HW2 before leaving us to die, that might have been a plan for that as well. A lot of stuff points to PQ3 being canon, but like… if they were so set on making it obviously canon (headless Freddy, crushed machine) then why blur out Gregory’s friend’s pronouns? If they were trying to make it obvious, why not just let him say “her”? I don’t think his friend is Vanessa. I think they want us to think it is so that we can get a plot twist in an upcoming game, and thus be able to utilize Vanny more than they had in SB.
What is confusing about vannessa and vanny is that every time everything cool about her is cut content. And then the movie does that. It seems like they are hiding the truth as cut content. Witch is very scott. But going down that paranoia Hole is bad theory practice.
@@xmattar I don't really like this statement, like it's a very common thing to say and I'm not holding anything against you spefifically but nobody knows what anyone else is doing, and like, maybe someone just found out about the show from this video and now knows one of the big reveals when they otherwise wouldn't have wanted to know. Maybe someone has been wanting to watch the show since it came out but couldn't find the time to do it or didn't have the disney channel on their tv and as the years go on they have gravity falls in the back of their mind as something they want to watch but can never find the time for it.
I can't help but believe that when they talk about references in the game, the Brazil ending could also be pretty relevant for the same reason, as some fans think it might be connected to that old dystopian movie.
I think them saying “the end of glitch trap” is less of saying “he died here in the game time line” and more of saying “this is the last time we are going to see glitch trap in the games”
I personally think that BOTH endings happend and that maybe Vanny crushed Glitchtrap BUT ONLY the digital form the phyisical form which is Burntrap might still live since we never know if tangel killed him or if he got possesed or if Burntrap escaped. Idk maybe I just dont want Glitchtrap to be dead/ to die this way it kinda feels underwhelming if that makes sense what do you think Btw Gravity Falls is THE GOAT THE G O A T when it comes to cartoony animated shows. Imagine if Alex Hirsch and Scott made sth. Which is or isnt fnaf related. They would have a field day with hiding stuff and telling secrets and all that
What if cassie's dad was the guy who cut off his own face in help wanted 1, he had gitch in his head at the time maybe Vanessa put him into a VR world so he could live on as the staff bunny bot and get him to help kill gitch? (This maybe true but i don't remember the guys name from help wanted 1.)
I've seen other's suggest that as well. My issue with it is why would a technician would be using the mask. It was probably an employee that developed the mask or that tested it.
@@diablosbros14 a tech can be considered as an employee at time, hell he may have been the one who designed the mask? That's random but hey ot is fnaf lmfao. I forgot what helppy said after Cassie put on the mask? Didn't it say something about fazz employees?
@@kiracomments-chca2747 it would make sense if it was but then there is the Bonne masked kid cassie's dad is theorized to be. Unless they are they are all the same person, which would be crazy and knowing the way fnaf is would make sense too.
@@haseo2dingo: All I'm saying is that the guy's name is also Jeremy. Not that it's the same as the other many Jeremys'. I do think the bonnie bully and face ripped guy are the same person, but we will see with time who each Jeremy is when the next two games come out.
What if Vanny is the personified avatar aspect of MXES? If she's free of Evil influence would she really want to take over the body of a human? Or would she take advantage of being a digital entity and inhabit the security system to stand guard over the Mimic?
Thing is, I feel like both endings in HW2 are canon. I mean, why bother mentioning that Glitchtrap is dead? Like you said, no matter what Cassie will retrieve the mask. No matter what, Cassie's dad dooms his daughter. Besides, when we put on the AR mask in Ruin, we see a human brain and veins in mask bot, meaning that yes, Cassie's dad was torn apart and literally stuffed into mask bot. I think that the arcade machine ending is also symbolically showing that Cassie's dad is trapped. He can't do anything. He's forced to helplessly watch as his daughter gets corrupted by the same thing he was slowly manipulated by. And about your "Vanny is still alive despite being separate from Vanessa" thing, I feel like I've got more evidence to back that up. Thing is in Ruin, when we get the Brazil ending, we see Vanessa and Gregory. But not with Freddy, with Helpi. That means it's most likely that Vanessa and Gregory also had chips in their brains, and even if they were freed, some of their data was still left behind when they were controlled. That's why we see Vanny. While Vanessa might have killed Glitchtrap and freed herself, Vanny is still very much alive. I also think that this ending should symbolize Vanessa's freedom. I mean, after Glitchtrap gets crushed, Vanny disappears into the void. She's not a threat, for now. It's possible that either the Mimic will control Cassie, Vanny will control Cassie, or whatever it is that controls Cassie will make her and whatever is controlling her our new antagonists. And it might be carnival-themed like you said in a previous theory.
I now realised something. Mimic 1 was always in the VANNI mask, while Glitchtrap was in the VR world. When Gregory played PQ 3, he freed Vanessa from the Glitchtrap, but not the Mimic. They merged together because of that mask. And when Gregory played PQ 3, that part of Glitchtrap that was connected to the Mimic was gone, and so, like from Vanny's cut dialogue, only a small bit of His code was left. And so to completely defeat Glitchtrap, they used the same mask that has Mimic 1 program to kill Glitchtrap completely. Which means that GLITCHTRAP WAS WILLIAM AFTON ALL ALONG AND MIMIC KILLED HIM. THIS IS FAZBEAR FRIGHTS EPILOGUES ALL OVER AGAIN.
And i guess that the reason Gregory and Vanessa returned to the Pizzaplex is because of her connection to Mimic1 program. That's why the security nodes in Ruin are rabbits. I guess same could apply to MXES.
@@dredgengam4610 Yeah, thats what i thought, I don't really agree with it, but if u do, thats fine, and it just hurts that Rye "doesn't like me" becaus of that. It hurts me even more because ive been here from the very begining where he was in the old basement.
@@dredgengam4610 you can’t simply “disagree” with someone else’s experience and existence. LGBT people exist and deserve the same rights as you. If you’re not pro-human rights for people who are different than you, then yeah, that kinda makes you an ahole.
I always really liked the idea of Cassie becoming the next Vanny. In my head, and this is pure speculation, I always felt like she would take upon the persona of Vanny and, instead of being a murderer for murders sake, she'd become more like the puppet was to the kid's souls to the animatronics. She'd be this shepherd to the lost and the broken no matter what or who gets in her way. She'd still be antagonistic to characters like Gregory and Vanessa, the same way that the puppet was antagonistic to Mike even though they were both trying to do good. And even going with this theory, I think this could still work. Like, maybe they could butt heads at first but, Cassie being the healer and the shepherd who wants to help, they could come to some kind of agreement and have a healthier version of what vanny and Vanessa had. And, if we're still going by the "new characters playing similar roles as old ones" idea, I always felt like Cassie was meant to be the new Charlie. Plus her name is kind of a mix of Charlie and Cassidy, so that could lead somewhere. Kind of a stretch, I know. Like I said, this is pure speculation, but I think it's pretty cool.
Sorry, Toast, but you got the ending of B-7 2 wrong. Billy’s grandmother assimilates B-7 into her body, announces that she’s been terminally sick for a while, then dies and somehow that kills B-7. There’s nothing about falling down stairs.
The MXES thing had me wondering so hard on what they’re trying to say… Like what does that mean? There’s no way he could have been created in the 80s, they were just starting out.. MXES is such a mysterious character. I have ideas on who I think he is but oh boy that side of thr fandom would get very mad at me lol
FNAF has always given the Fazbear company technology that's way too advanced for the time period. A good example is Fetch from the Fazbear Frights books, which came out years and years ago. This is just a plot point of the franchise and has been for a long time.
The MXES machine has to just be an old super computer used for development of the mimic program and other stuff, and the hardware has just been repurposed to run the security system for the pizzaplex because otherwise it quite literally makes zero sense why presumably William or Henry would make it. I personally just think the timeline is a lost cause at this point, nothing seems to matter, and you can toss in anything anywhere because this franchise follows as much logic as installing a screen door on a submarine.
It could be that both endings for HP 2 are the “real” endings. With the mask bot ending be where Casey’s dad’s soul ends up and the Vanny ending is where his consciousness is trapped; in the same vain of Afton in UCN with his soul trapped in the suit and his consciousness in UCN.
i'm honest not even mad about a less favourable interpretation of 'youtuber bait' to some extent like the whole fandom and game's legacy exists so much because of the youtube lets plays, i mean markiplier and game theory are why i watch fnaf theories despite never playing the games
There's an issue in my mind where the age of the Bonnie Bully comes up. Let's say that you're right; they are one and the same. Let's also say he was around 10-15 yrs old when the Bite of '83 happened. If we accept the information that SB occurs in 2035, at youngest he'd be near 62. At oldest, he'd be pushing 70. That's retirement age or reasonably close to it. A bit old either way to be raising a child. I think it's more likely that Cassie is a grandchild rather than daughter. We've already seen some loose evidence that the game series is generationally impacting. This wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
I’m not sure about though, we have people in real life that are around 60-70 years old and still have children. I mean heck Scott himself is still having children and he’s around his 60's or 70's.
It’s just takes time to learn and understand how you feel about yourself and what that means to you. And doing so you don’t have to define or compare yourself to the ideas of what gender, or “masculinity” and “femininity” are. You just simply have to be you and find the aspects you like out of either, and you don’t have to feel stuck with those once you do, we all change as we grow and so can those. It’s hard to describe, but you’ll know the feelings when you feel them, if you ever do. Of what feels masculine or feminine, or neither, to you. Some feel their gender matches of the sex they were assigned at birth, some feel the opposite, some feel both or somewhere in between, and some feel completely separated from the idea or gender and don’t let it define them
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738 the girls that get it, get it. The girls that don’t, don’t. And you obviously don’t. I’m sorry you’re ignorant. I know what I’m talking about bc I’ve felt it. And if you wanna say my experiences and feelings aren’t real, I can just say you aren’t real. So are you nothing now? Like you’re saying my expression and explanation of gender is? Nope, you still exist (unfortunately), just like the rest of reality. Even if you don’t understand it. If you wanna be a hater and not try to understand other people, do like what Rye said, get the fuck out, you’re not welcome here. Love and kisses 💕
J-Top literally confirmed in this interview that Princess Quest 4 happened cause "We beat Princess Quest... But there is more.", meaning we beat Princess Quest III, which means the Princess Quest ending is the canon ending.
Something funny about Gravity Falls is that Alex Hirsch did a fake leak where he stood in a production room where there was a TV in the background that had McGucket writing the journals to throw off people who knew Stan had a secret brother who wrote actually wrote the journals.
I REMEMBER THAT. It's peak
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They truly inherited the will of Scott, they told us alot and told us nothing at the same time.
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@@chickenmilk120 well, how do you feel about that comment?
@@chickenmilk120yea how do you feel?
@@chickenmilk120c’mon, tell us how you feel?
@@chickenmilk120 Well? C'mon don't leave us hangin
I think the Vanny Graffiti is showing that she keeps the Vanny persona while also rejecting and renouncing Glitchtrap.
That could be possible
If that is the case, that's going to be freaking awesome and would show you can get the Afton Followers to work with us
Vanessa taking the thing that trapped her and using it as a sign of freedom and guidance would be so fucking cool imo
@Lustfullynova like the n word it was used to like take control of people with dark skin color then now the people with dark skin color use it as like as a sign of freedom. (Don't put a 💀 to my comment please)
@@RickyDorvilier-hx6yf ya' know this comparison didn't even come to mind, I get what you're saying though but you could've definitely used a better analogy 😭
I find it VERY interesting that Jason describes Cassie in almost the EXACT same way that charlie is characterized in every single version of the fnaf timeline, caring, going out of her way to help others, and most of all actually caring for the animatronics, it feels very similar to how henry described his daugher in fnaf 6. Makes me think of the Dual sisters theory you covered recently. Im really interested to see what steel wool is trying to say
You know, the way Gregory and Cassie are supposed to be sort of rivals really reminds me of Micheal - Charlie dynamic where one is supposedly helping the murderer and the other one is helping the murdered. Or in that case it would be rather a William - Charlie, since Gregory is really straight up murdering the animatronics, while Cassie tries to help them.
btw, another connection between the bonnie bully and cassies dad is that they both wear bunny masks (HW2s VANNI mask)
Yeah I have a problem with Pride! I hate all the seven deadly sins.
I was about to throw hands but then you made me giggle, ggs
Got us in the first half. Not going to lie
sloth is just an eepy boy, leave him alone :c
this is hilarious considering Scott is a maga fan and has donated to anti lgbt coalitions
@@DefNotMyBurnerHe is Christian so it makes sense?
The idea of Vanny being an entity that was creators when Vanessa was under Glitchtraps control is pretty smart. Not only would we be able to see Vanny again, but we would see her in a new form. I’m excited to see where FNAF will go next, and I have faith in Steel Wool. 🙏😀👍
Things I think.
1. I personally don’t think glitchtrap is fully dead, I’m more under the belief that perhaps most of his code was destroyed and it’s caused him to be severely weakened to the point where he won’t be able to take on as much of a active role, but we’ll most likely get Vanny/VANNI to take on the role of the next main antagonist in the game she appears in now in Cassie’s mind.
2. I think chica may be rescued by a child of her own like how Freddy has Gregory and Roxanne had Cassie, perhaps, maybe Amelia from the tales story ggy.
3. If glitchtrap is dead perhaps the next villain will be another variant of the mimic, perhaps even Tiger-Rock from the books.
4. If the tales books are canon to the games we may have to explore other pizzaplex’s.
5. If Vanny/VANNI really was able to be separated from Vanessa I think the same will happen to Cassie, but instead of trying to find a new host body she’s gonna build herself a animatronic body.
6. I’m under the belief that Cassie’s dad is gonna return from being put inside the mask-bot, perhaps he’ll find a way to travel through the pizzaplex network and transfer his mind into a new body or get his own body back.
I've been pretty big on the Chica idea since the first Ruin poster. I mixed up Amelia's named thinking someone said Abigail, which led me down a big spiral of comparing Chicas and Babys. Of the Ruin we got, one sort of thing I wanna change would be if you didn't shatter Monty or Chica in base, they'd have a different model in the DLC, or potentially act differently if Gregory didn't hurt them.
So the whole antagonist is just a bunch of robot copycats? lame
I have been saying this ever since HW2 came out. Cassie's dad, Gregory and Vanessa have to be working togather during HW2. The Vanny ending is probably just a metaphor of what happened, not how it happened. Cassie's dad sacrifices his body for Glitchtrap to take it over completely (After all he is the perfect vessel as a fan of Bonnie, being a dad and being a fazbear technician) Cassie's dad is left behind in the system of the Pizzaplex with Glitchtrap completly gone from it now. (Ending 1) Vannessa who pretends to be Vanny kills Glitchtrap in Cassie's dad's body, probably with the help of Gregory, after Cassie's dad makes the ultimate sacrifice. (Ending 2)
This makes both endings work, while killing Glitchtrap and making the new Helpi mimic, the driving force inside of the Pizzaplex system.
From the Way that Steel wool Described Gregory,
I Think He's Evil,
Not gonna Lie.
I mean he does drop the elevator with a friend who obviously cared enough for him to go into this creepy ass place and try to save him.
Lil bro is definitely sus..and how he lied to freddy about the upgrades we get from everyone else..yeah. He definitely lacks certain empathy not only for animatronics but for human’s as well
i kinda wanna cry at the carrot cake teaser, the thought of seeing cassie again... makes me emotional, foor some reason- maybe, just maybe- she will get to see gregory again?
i kinda wanna see her as a villain tho' for some reason, to me makes the most sense from what happpened to her in the ending of ruin... idk idk
I think that M.X.E.S. is what the mimic line from the books was controled by with the acronym being: Mimic eXternal Endoskeleton System security. as gregoy calls it the M.X.E.S. security so thats what i think
My hungry ass thought they were comparing MXES to a Whopper.
I honestly think that Jtop was talking just about PQ4 ending when talking about glitchtrap, and that the maskbot ending is the canon one
I wish we can see Tales From the Pizzaplex with Novels made from Skybound Comic Series
4:40 this has really made me feel stronger about the graves in hw2 being death order. Obviously gravestones are closely associated with death, plus with the death order being something that is often in the forefront of discussion in the fanbase, I think it's likely they would have deemed it misleading if it was not meant to represent that. I know a lot of people think it is the order of spirits resting, but with previously using the unlit animatronic heads to show the absence of spirits, I find it very unlikely they would swap to using lit torches to represent spirits leaving. It just unnecessarily further complicates the symbolism.
Vanni betrays glitchtrap, jeremy is lost to the virus? What a web of betrayals!
What if the Freddy with the "prototype" stamp on it is actually a prototype design and they just forgot to remove the stamp and said "Oh well. They know now..."
Quick aside about calling Cassie's dad Jeremy: I was under the impression that Jeremy was supposed to be the bite of '87 victim (or maybe Mike again). Can anyone give me a shorthand version of why Rye reckon's Jeremy is Cassie's dad, or point me in the direction of which video to watch?
23:40 That certainly doesn't feel like a healthy relationchip...
What’s pride
It is ride with a peeee
@@anyoneatall3488 oh
I don't know if this is a joke or not so I'll give you a genuine awnser. It is a month where people like me (the lgbtqia+) celebration stuff like the acquisition of equal rights and stuff like that. The month is also shared with men's mental health month.
It’s a time of year in celebration of all gender, sexual, and romantic identities and sexualities. And how we should normalize and celebrate them all, no matter how different we may be all be in those ways. We’re all welcome.
@@benwyatt4081 alright
Vanny doesnt seem to line up with the helpie AI. It seems much more likely that helpie is the mimic, who is baby. This explanation also doesnt explain moon.
To explain that, if we think vanny is a parallel for vanessa, and moon is a parallel for Gregory. Then them "crushing" glitchtrap could be them putting it into the original mimic endo and trapping it there with MXES. However that would all have to happen before ruin, which is plausible, hut makes the Jeremy maskbot hard to explain.
However if we think Vanny is Babies new persona, it wouldnt be the first time she expelled controlling personalities to be free?
M.X.E.S. Is the version of the storyteller in the tales from the Pizzaplex books in my opinion probably
Wild thought but what if the Mimic is an animatronic copy of William created by Henry or someone else, similar to how Henry made animatronic copies of Charlotte in the books? Its just a thought that came to me while watching this, idk why.
So Simon from Popgoes?
@@leothebrat2048 I don't know who or what that is.
Corpse of William + robot esqueleton + electrónics of the building + conscience @@derrickdaniels3955
9:41 - just noticing here that the lightning bolts on each freddy ‘ s chest arent the same ! Or at least that what it looks like ( don’t attack me if in wrong please ! )
What if the prototype stamp on freddy's foot is implying that all the ending could be canon. Think about it. if Freddy's is manned almost entirely with Staffbots From Construction Workers, to Security Guards. Is it possible that All the endings couldve happened and that the staffbots simply reset everything each time? as long as theres nothing actively conflicting here is it not possible to combine all endings into a cohesive timeline assuming gaps where memories get reset/things get rebuilt?
In the books theres a system in the pizzaplex called the storyteller which is an ai writing a story for the animatronics to follow. could it be that theres actually a system thats managing and creating each of the endings for security breach by adjusting memories and managing staffbots to reconstruct.
2:24 I was very supportive of pride. I actually had 2 friends who transitioned back in Highschool. Some of my best friends. 2 years later one of them ended themselves because they wanted to de-transition and was called transphobic for it by other members of pride. The other friend told me all about it after he passed.
The ONLY problem I have is that transitioning doesn't work for everyone, and that there are people in lgbt that dont care really. You apparently only mattered if you agreed with them. I really miss him. I didn't know I would be called out for that tho, and I came to this channel because i liked your theories, cats, and i played your videos while i slept cause you have a calming voice to me. Been watching for over a year. Now all i will remember is this timestamp directed at me. 2:24
If you are supportive of Pride (which celebrates and fights for stuff like same sex marriage, people being able to express themselves how they are without fear of losing basic human rights, trans rights, and much more) then he isn't talking to you. If you are saying you are no longer supportive of Pride, then the message stands. I'm sorry for your loss, but I don't really understand what your friend's tragic story has to do with Rye's reasoning.
regarding timestamp 2:23
You need a pan to bake bread, after all!
I've been sitting on a thought for a while, when you get to the final Princess Quest 2D room with the Player Arcade sprite, you have to kill them. Does that mean you die or become a part of the system?
I really wish security breach could still be finished
If it was finished, then we wouldn’t have this confusing ass lore or this annoying mimic character
does anyone know what the spooky backround music is
I still say mxes was a server/hub for the puppet and others.
Also the puppet box was the OG charging pod
I could be wrong but I don't think Cassie's dad wears the same Vanny mask. It is entirely plausible that some stranger picked the mask (considering she left it there at the pizza plex in her ending) but it is also established that employees had masks with the rabbit face. Vanessa was an employee too. It's entirely possible she had her own mask that she sewed (?) onto the Vanny suit* that is very clearly hand made.
That being said I think these masks are a problem now just in general.
Worth mentioning that the Vanny ending in Help Wanted does not look like Vanessa helping Glitchtrap. She very evidently is waved at by him and before she closes her hands you can see BOTH of his hands up almost afraid as she clearly CRUSHES him. If it _is_ Vanessa then it's entirely possible this is just her digital persona or whatever part of her left within the digital world freed from him. MXES is (alongside Bonnie I suppose) another confirmed "good rabbit". I feel we're getting to see more and more "good rabbits" to contrast all these "bad rabbit" ones.
I'm a lil drunk so take all of this with a grain of salt.
If glitch is dead why do we see his shadow in ruin?Why would they kill him,It would just make the lore even harder for them to manage.If glitchtrap is apparently mimic1 doesn't he have more of his bits in the mimic endoskeleton??Helpi (which i believe is glitchtrap)seems to have a connection with mimic as Gregory (ill call him grimic),As we all know glitchtrap WAS uploaded throughout the Plex, Somewhere around at the start of ruin Cassie enters a security office if im not mistaken,Grimic says that hes in the pizza Plex and then it instantly played footage of Gregory running through the halls, Which would be impossible because it wasnt there,So it's already recorded footage who glitchtrap would obviously have,Grimic even interacted with helpi while It was talking to Cassie about getting rid of mxes and literally as we get rid of mxes the place literally starts getting more glitchy and broken (ar world),What do you guys think?
I don’t think Jeremy is trapped in that claw machine. I think his journey continues in another game, and we just cut at that point because that’s where the story of Help Wanted 2 ends.
Before we enter the claw machine, we go down an intact model of the sister location elevator. It just so happens that Sister Location is believed to be directly under the ruined FNAF 6 location, our hub area for Help Wanted 2. I’d like to believe that Jeremy is down in the sister location bunker at the end of Help Wanted 2 around the same time that Cassidy winds up there at the end of RUIN. They’d be in the same place at the same time, reunited to finish off all the AI nonsense at its source.
i feel like the vanny we see at hw2 is just vanessa tricking glitch trap to kill him. I dont think she left the player to rot in thr vr world but i think its step one to free him from it. The M.X.E.S machine could have been used to keep like animatronic data and stuff like that in and then modded to have the new system in it
I don't see why you would think that Vanessa is "killing" Cassie's Dad here. If both endings are canon, then PQ4 would most likely need to happen after the main ending and thus Ruin, meaning he would already be dead and inside Maskbot, by which point... What is Vanessa supposed to do? She merely tells him to get Glitchtrap's memories, kills the virus and then goes away, she doesn't do anything specific to him
Furthermore, I doubt that if there is an actual Vanny conciousness left behind that it would lay in her mask and end up with Jeremy because Jeremey's mask just... isn't Vanny's mask? The VANNI mask is a modified version of the (virtual) HW1 mask, whereas Vanny's mask is exclusive to her in SB and her appearance in HW2. Unless she somehow transferred her conciousness to a completely different mask off-screen (which we have no real evidence aside from the AR world being interconnected I suppose) or that Vanny also had a VANNI mask (which we also don't have any evidence for), I don't see that being the case
Don't take this as an attack or anything, any discussion is good discussion! I just thought of giving my own two cents on the matter. Good video!
3:50 the difference is the emotional impact of the things happening in Gravity falls is still present on a first watch, you understand what is happening on a deep enough level for any given episode, with additional hints to the rest of the series sprinkled in
Security breach came out 3 years ago and its narrative is still so obtuse that it's difficult to actually enjoy
I do like fnaf and all the theorising, and the sheer openess of security breach makes it interesting but in an almost ironic sense, and his point of comparing sl to gf makes for a shit comparison cause the narrative of gf is like, good
are the two vannys a symbol for glitch trap and the mimic being different entities
Please mention this in a video: Jeremy Fritz Gerald is a fake name made of the male victims for the MCI incident
Bro rye I love your videos man I’ve been subbed for a little over a year now but it is so hard to watch your videos with the background music you have on the videos it’s so loud and distracting that I can’t even focus on what your saying because I’m so annoyed
Banana Mania music in the intro 🔥🔥
Also, is there a grandma in multiple books?
Your cats look so goddamn huggable. Is there a word for parasocial, but toward an online person's pets instead of the person themself?
I actually had no idea you were nb.
Yeah I present very masculine, and I go by any pronouns. So you wouldn't guess it when people refer to me as he
@@RyeToast I always use it based off of the sound of people’s voices since you get a lot more from voices than appearance sometimes. Funnily enough, I had no idea one of my best friends was a trans girl cause I thought she was just a cis girl with a really deep voice.
I think there are 2 vannys vannesa/tapegirl and the player of fnaf vr Vanessa's twin
2:28 same to you lol
You should watch The Logicist's video on the Freedy situation
Wait so what was the point of glitchtrap then? Mans was set up as a major antagonist in HW1 then did nothing and died
Could you imagine if they just dropped one day that Cassie Fitzgerald is her full name?
It's the mimic so wjy is nobody bringing up the point tha the ending in HW2 could be, well..., the mimic doing so mimicry?
I grew my hair because of you
I just LOVE your cats. So snuggly. ❤
Here's hoping they actually do something with Vanny in the future. She was such a waste of potential in SB
What if both hw 2 endings are canon?
happy pride, Rye!
Ok well thanks for the very uncalled for insult. That felt like a very careless assumption and harsh generalization towards people who dislike, disagree with, or are neutral on certain aspects of pride ideology and culture. Also before you send mindless hate towards me I respect him and his existence. Just because someone dislikes, disagrees with, or is neutral on aspects of an ideology does not mean they hate someone. I shouldn't have to explain that but I guess common sense is not common anymore these days. It's unfortunate because I like his content but I guess because I have different thoughts or opinions than he does that makes me a terrible person and not welcome here. This sentiment feels pretty closed minded, unnuanced, and irrational. I usually like to leave ideologies and other political crap out of things like this but if he's going be this overtly bigoted about it than I guess I will just have to stop watching if thats that way he truly feels.
bro its so simple if you're homophobic rye doesn't want you here
there is no reason to write a whole essay, just stay or don't interact
@@_hretA. He’s free to leave a comment, just like everyone else
B. Disagreeing with pride or aspects of it ≠ homophobia
@@_hret Did you even read the "essay?"
Happy pride, toast! Happy pride, community!
Hmm...Interesting theories! ^_^
I would rather them finish the work on security breach than make a new game
You don’t think maybe Carrot Cake is instead about Crying Child?
I mean, there's no evidence to connect carrot cake with the crying child. I see your point but there's just no correlation between the two. Never have we seen in FNAF 4 anything resembling carrot cake.
Yea not really. Crying Child is the only one we have been put to rest in the narrative
@@Moonlight_0419 I know there’s nothing connecting carrot cake with the crying child, just maybe a red herring that’s he’s not talking about Cassie but he’s talking about CC instead… Carrot cake being CC.
@@gameslayer3976 How do you know we’re done with CC?
@@Imtrying_girl it’s just that every other character has been referenced and/or somewhat relevant to the story besides him. He might show up, but it’s unlikely IMO.
✨ DIGITAL. CONSCIOUSNESS. ✨
I love that you also picked up on the idea that just because Vanessa is free doesn't mean Vanny is destroyed!
My Vanny/Jeremy theory is so similar to yours! I feel like we are finally beginning to really understand how this digital world works.
Hell yeah! (Also I 100% read that like Caine says "DIGITAL HALLUCINATIONS")
@@RyeToast YOU GOT THE REFERENCE 🎉
The fact that M.X.E.S is stylistically linked to a movie from 1983 specifically feels meaningful to me. 1983 is a year in FNAF lore where nearly everything important happens, in regards to the Afton era of the timeline. Linking the M.X.E.S machine to this period feels like the devs pointing to that era and telling us to look for connections.
During that era the government would use X to stand for experimental such as the MX missile, so-
Mimic eXperimental Enclosure System?
Alternatively, Mario came out in 1985 so-
Mario’s Xylophone Evening Serenade?
@@remingtonfiore9721 no, the second one is M.X.E.S. 2: electric boogaloo. (But for real I like the first thought lol)
@@remingtonfiore9721my thought has always been Mimic eXoskeleton Entertainment System, since its first purpose was to distract the kid.
But who made the machine though? William? Henry?
@@adammartinez8061 it could be either one, they’re both engineers after all. My personal belief is that William made the console, since the bunker it’s stored in is theorized to be connected to the Sister Location bunker, not to mention it contains a proto-scooper. I doubt the console would be easy to move, given it size and the processing power needed to keep that thing running, so it’s likely that the console and location come in a package, maybe even alongside the mimic itself.
Because you say "Take it with a grain of salt" so often, you need a shirt that says that with a shaker containing a single grain of salt PLZ TvT
Just some salty toast
I wanna know how John Funaff got that interview before MattPatt did lol.
Probably because Matpat isn’t doing theory videos anymore, plus I think Matpat has his hands on FNAF more now that he isn’t and knows too much now. (ie his goodbye video ending with Scott)
I think Matpat would have wanted John to have the interveiw. He want's other people to be in the spotlight.
I wonder the same thing…not that John doesn’t deserve it but I would’ve been even cooler if it was MatPat or the both of them tho
MatPat tapped out and passed the torch on a long while back.
@@Imtrying_girl That was purely for cinematic purposes, I think. I do not believe he was told much lore, if at all. After all, he and Scott agreed to not talk about lore or anything when they met during the filming of the FNaF Movie.
Monty being "too far gone" makes me sad and idk why
It's because they created Monty specifically for Security breach and Ruin but they then just had us destroy him with no hope for redemption. Monty was Death fodder and they expected us as Cassie to be okay with that
@@stardustartistFr they specifically created this neat new character for this game (our first reptile animatronic to boot) only to kill him off. Rude
If Monty’s not coming back, then that’s pretty disappointing
Its probably more to do with her hating him, Cassie blames Monty for the disappearnce of Glamrock Bonnie since that is meant to be part of the "official story" created by Fazbear Entertainment, with Bonnie being her dad's favourite its understandable why. We even hear response to the appearance of the different animatronics, Freddy, Chica and Roxy she was concerned about but Monty got stuck with the label "that Monty thing".
ikr, with freddy while his body may be too far gone, at least his head and general consciousness is with gregory (as long as that ending happens) but for monty? he's just destroyed, almost no hope for redemption or healing from what the virus did to him
My roomate (no idea about any fnaf lore) after i just showed her the thumbnail;
"Haha, I read MXES as My Exes"
And I just lost it
LOL [Starts singing the song]
I think the implication that the "healer" has been corrupted, and the rampant placement of Nightmarrione (a nightmare version of the old "healer") is interesting.
That's actually very interesting thank you for pointing that out
Personally, I think one of their intentional red herrings is the PQ3 hints. Call it copium, but I REALLY think they’re trying to build up to us as the audience trusting Vanessa, only for her to turn Vanny on us. That seemed to be a plan in the original Security Breach considering the deleted lines, and if Vanny was supposed to be our guide in HW2 before leaving us to die, that might have been a plan for that as well.
A lot of stuff points to PQ3 being canon, but like… if they were so set on making it obviously canon (headless Freddy, crushed machine) then why blur out Gregory’s friend’s pronouns? If they were trying to make it obvious, why not just let him say “her”? I don’t think his friend is Vanessa. I think they want us to think it is so that we can get a plot twist in an upcoming game, and thus be able to utilize Vanny more than they had in SB.
What is confusing about vannessa and vanny is that every time everything cool about her is cut content. And then the movie does that. It seems like they are hiding the truth as cut content. Witch is very scott. But going down that paranoia Hole is bad theory practice.
It would be a crazy reveal if Gregory's "friend" was actually Cassie's dad or its just Freddy with some knowledge about underground area
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR GRAVITY FALLS
Nah Bro at this point they had 12 years to watch it, 2 years in covid too
It's their fault if they didn't watch it
@@xmattarbleh
😱🤯😱
@@xmattar I don't really like this statement, like it's a very common thing to say and I'm not holding anything against you spefifically but nobody knows what anyone else is doing, and like, maybe someone just found out about the show from this video and now knows one of the big reveals when they otherwise wouldn't have wanted to know. Maybe someone has been wanting to watch the show since it came out but couldn't find the time to do it or didn't have the disney channel on their tv and as the years go on they have gravity falls in the back of their mind as something they want to watch but can never find the time for it.
@@Max_The_Floweralso not everyone was born at the time or they could have just learned from the show
I can't help but believe that when they talk about references in the game, the Brazil ending could also be pretty relevant for the same reason, as some fans think it might be connected to that old dystopian movie.
I don’t think the word “might” is necessary. It’s very obviously a reference to the movie Brazil, which is already a connection.
@@Neon-Starr i also think so, but I’m afraid of affirming anything about the lore in this franchise. Things are always very speculative
I think them saying “the end of glitch trap” is less of saying “he died here in the game time line” and more of saying “this is the last time we are going to see glitch trap in the games”
I personally think that BOTH endings happend and that maybe Vanny crushed Glitchtrap BUT ONLY the digital form the phyisical form which is Burntrap might still live since we never know if tangel killed him or if he got possesed or if Burntrap escaped.
Idk maybe I just dont want Glitchtrap to be dead/ to die this way it kinda feels underwhelming if that makes sense what do you think
Btw Gravity Falls is THE GOAT THE G O A T when it comes to cartoony animated shows.
Imagine if Alex Hirsch and Scott made sth. Which is or isnt fnaf related.
They would have a field day with hiding stuff and telling secrets and all that
What if cassie's dad was the guy who cut off his own face in help wanted 1, he had gitch in his head at the time maybe Vanessa put him into a VR world so he could live on as the staff bunny bot and get him to help kill gitch? (This maybe true but i don't remember the guys name from help wanted 1.)
I've seen other's suggest that as well. My issue with it is why would a technician would be using the mask. It was probably an employee that developed the mask or that tested it.
@@diablosbros14 a tech can be considered as an employee at time, hell he may have been the one who designed the mask? That's random but hey ot is fnaf lmfao. I forgot what helppy said after Cassie put on the mask? Didn't it say something about fazz employees?
@@haseo2dingo: Pretty sure the guy that cut his own face off in HW, his name is also Jeremy...
@@kiracomments-chca2747 it would make sense if it was but then there is the Bonne masked kid cassie's dad is theorized to be. Unless they are they are all the same person, which would be crazy and knowing the way fnaf is would make sense too.
@@haseo2dingo: All I'm saying is that the guy's name is also Jeremy. Not that it's the same as the other many Jeremys'. I do think the bonnie bully and face ripped guy are the same person, but we will see with time who each Jeremy is when the next two games come out.
What if Vanny is the personified avatar aspect of MXES?
If she's free of Evil influence would she really want to take over the body of a human?
Or would she take advantage of being a digital entity and inhabit the security system to stand guard over the Mimic?
"Did steel wool tell us the lore?!" *Proceeds to make broad statements anyway*
UA-camr has a clickbait title. The sun is hot. People breathe air.
@@sapphirek5244 And Nux Taku is cringe.
What are you even saying? He said "did". Also he was just making connections with things and didn't say the interview said anything directly.
A good example of UA-camr bait is poppy playtime chapter 2 I know when your birthday is.
Exactly
Thay was good though, when Mark heard it and it ended up being his birthday, I couldn't stop laughing
Thing is, I feel like both endings in HW2 are canon. I mean, why bother mentioning that Glitchtrap is dead? Like you said, no matter what Cassie will retrieve the mask. No matter what, Cassie's dad dooms his daughter. Besides, when we put on the AR mask in Ruin, we see a human brain and veins in mask bot, meaning that yes, Cassie's dad was torn apart and literally stuffed into mask bot. I think that the arcade machine ending is also symbolically showing that Cassie's dad is trapped. He can't do anything. He's forced to helplessly watch as his daughter gets corrupted by the same thing he was slowly manipulated by.
And about your "Vanny is still alive despite being separate from Vanessa" thing, I feel like I've got more evidence to back that up. Thing is in Ruin, when we get the Brazil ending, we see Vanessa and Gregory. But not with Freddy, with Helpi. That means it's most likely that Vanessa and Gregory also had chips in their brains, and even if they were freed, some of their data was still left behind when they were controlled. That's why we see Vanny.
While Vanessa might have killed Glitchtrap and freed herself, Vanny is still very much alive. I also think that this ending should symbolize Vanessa's freedom. I mean, after Glitchtrap gets crushed, Vanny disappears into the void. She's not a threat, for now.
It's possible that either the Mimic will control Cassie, Vanny will control Cassie, or whatever it is that controls Cassie will make her and whatever is controlling her our new antagonists. And it might be carnival-themed like you said in a previous theory.
You ate this
I now realised something. Mimic 1 was always in the VANNI mask, while Glitchtrap was in the VR world. When Gregory played PQ 3, he freed Vanessa from the Glitchtrap, but not the Mimic. They merged together because of that mask. And when Gregory played PQ 3, that part of Glitchtrap that was connected to the Mimic was gone, and so, like from Vanny's cut dialogue, only a small bit of His code was left.
And so to completely defeat Glitchtrap, they used the same mask that has Mimic 1 program to kill Glitchtrap completely. Which means that GLITCHTRAP WAS WILLIAM AFTON ALL ALONG AND MIMIC KILLED HIM. THIS IS FAZBEAR FRIGHTS EPILOGUES ALL OVER AGAIN.
And i guess that the reason Gregory and Vanessa returned to the Pizzaplex is because of her connection to Mimic1 program. That's why the security nodes in Ruin are rabbits. I guess same could apply to MXES.
@@GospodinWolf I hate the modern lore it’s not mysterious nor interesting It’s just dumb.
@@dylanhudec979 yeah
@@GospodinWolf it’s all about mimics now isn’t it? we went from unknown killer to an army of robot copycats this just feels stale and very forced
@@dylanhudec979 Kind of
it is nice to know i am accepted in this community! love ya rye
Unless you have "wrong think", because you disagree or are more neutral.. then apparently you can go screw off, if you dare to think differently.
Yeah if you dont like gay people just out of spite u can piss off@@dredgengam4610
@@dredgengam4610 Yeah, thats what i thought, I don't really agree with it, but if u do, thats fine, and it just hurts that Rye "doesn't like me" becaus of that. It hurts me even more because ive been here from the very begining where he was in the old basement.
@@dredgengam4610 you can’t simply “disagree” with someone else’s experience and existence. LGBT people exist and deserve the same rights as you. If you’re not pro-human rights for people who are different than you, then yeah, that kinda makes you an ahole.
@@chlorisc6078 why do you think that rye would respect you, when you can’t respect them and his existence?
I always really liked the idea of Cassie becoming the next Vanny. In my head, and this is pure speculation, I always felt like she would take upon the persona of Vanny and, instead of being a murderer for murders sake, she'd become more like the puppet was to the kid's souls to the animatronics. She'd be this shepherd to the lost and the broken no matter what or who gets in her way. She'd still be antagonistic to characters like Gregory and Vanessa, the same way that the puppet was antagonistic to Mike even though they were both trying to do good.
And even going with this theory, I think this could still work. Like, maybe they could butt heads at first but, Cassie being the healer and the shepherd who wants to help, they could come to some kind of agreement and have a healthier version of what vanny and Vanessa had.
And, if we're still going by the "new characters playing similar roles as old ones" idea, I always felt like Cassie was meant to be the new Charlie. Plus her name is kind of a mix of Charlie and Cassidy, so that could lead somewhere. Kind of a stretch, I know.
Like I said, this is pure speculation, but I think it's pretty cool.
Sorry, Toast, but you got the ending of B-7 2 wrong. Billy’s grandmother assimilates B-7 into her body, announces that she’s been terminally sick for a while, then dies and somehow that kills B-7. There’s nothing about falling down stairs.
Oh, I must've mixed it up with another story. Thanks for the heads up!
The MXES thing had me wondering so hard on what they’re trying to say… Like what does that mean? There’s no way he could have been created in the 80s, they were just starting out.. MXES is such a mysterious character. I have ideas on who I think he is but oh boy that side of thr fandom would get very mad at me lol
FNAF has always given the Fazbear company technology that's way too advanced for the time period. A good example is Fetch from the Fazbear Frights books, which came out years and years ago. This is just a plot point of the franchise and has been for a long time.
The MXES machine has to just be an old super computer used for development of the mimic program and other stuff, and the hardware has just been repurposed to run the security system for the pizzaplex because otherwise it quite literally makes zero sense why presumably William or Henry would make it. I personally just think the timeline is a lost cause at this point, nothing seems to matter, and you can toss in anything anywhere because this franchise follows as much logic as installing a screen door on a submarine.
theory: The cat is the one talking
did anyone notice that ruin freddy has a different shade of blue than security breach freddy? I saw more things different.
i love the interview clip being played on the SL tv. That's charming
14:52 can't belive you missed "Ding Dong, the glitch is gone"
It's a reference to "ding dong the witch is dead"
It could be that both endings for HP 2 are the “real” endings. With the mask bot ending be where Casey’s dad’s soul ends up and the Vanny ending is where his consciousness is trapped; in the same vain of Afton in UCN with his soul trapped in the suit and his consciousness in UCN.
i'm honest not even mad about a less favourable interpretation of 'youtuber bait' to some extent like the whole fandom and game's legacy exists so much because of the youtube lets plays, i mean markiplier and game theory are why i watch fnaf theories despite never playing the games
best happy pride clip ever, the most relatable idfc anymore whats going on with my gender
Princess Quest reminds me of Disney Princess and Bonnie father was revealed years of 1987 popgoes fanverse As well
17:01 Vanessa trolley problem lol
There's an issue in my mind where the age of the Bonnie Bully comes up.
Let's say that you're right; they are one and the same. Let's also say he was around 10-15 yrs old when the Bite of '83 happened. If we accept the information that SB occurs in 2035, at youngest he'd be near 62. At oldest, he'd be pushing 70. That's retirement age or reasonably close to it. A bit old either way to be raising a child.
I think it's more likely that Cassie is a grandchild rather than daughter. We've already seen some loose evidence that the game series is generationally impacting. This wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
I’m not sure about though, we have people in real life that are around 60-70 years old and still have children. I mean heck Scott himself is still having children and he’s around his 60's or 70's.
@@King_Kong-Zilla Scott is 46 💀
0:39 don't insult my girl nikki like that ☹️😔
No hate im uneducated at this topic, How cant somebody know which Gender they have?
Insane in the membrane
It’s just takes time to learn and understand how you feel about yourself and what that means to you. And doing so you don’t have to define or compare yourself to the ideas of what gender, or “masculinity” and “femininity” are. You just simply have to be you and find the aspects you like out of either, and you don’t have to feel stuck with those once you do, we all change as we grow and so can those. It’s hard to describe, but you’ll know the feelings when you feel them, if you ever do. Of what feels masculine or feminine, or neither, to you. Some feel their gender matches of the sex they were assigned at birth, some feel the opposite, some feel both or somewhere in between, and some feel completely separated from the idea or gender and don’t let it define them
@@benwyatt4081No offence, but that was a very long winded way of saying absolutely nothing
Excellent question. Nobody knows because it makes no sense :)
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii7738 the girls that get it, get it. The girls that don’t, don’t. And you obviously don’t. I’m sorry you’re ignorant. I know what I’m talking about bc I’ve felt it. And if you wanna say my experiences and feelings aren’t real, I can just say you aren’t real. So are you nothing now? Like you’re saying my expression and explanation of gender is? Nope, you still exist (unfortunately), just like the rest of reality. Even if you don’t understand it. If you wanna be a hater and not try to understand other people, do like what Rye said, get the fuck out, you’re not welcome here. Love and kisses 💕
“🎶DING DONG, THE GLITCH IS DEAD🎶“ I’m using that phrase from now on whenever I bring up Glitchtrap dying 😭☠️
J-Top literally confirmed in this interview that Princess Quest 4 happened cause "We beat Princess Quest... But there is more.", meaning we beat Princess Quest III, which means the Princess Quest ending is the canon ending.
LOVE THE GRAVITY FALLS REFERENCE!❤
2:36 lol I love u dude