2024 GMC Sierra 2500 Duramax VS RAM 2500 Cummins MPG & Performance Test: Is The Duramax Way Better?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Check out this comparison between the 2024 GMC Sierra Duramax and 2023 RAM 2500 Cummins. In this video you will see timed 0-60 and MPG! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #gmcsierra #ram2500
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GMC 3.38- I was in the mountains of West Virginia and I can say the exhaust brake on our 2022 Duramax SIERRA 2500 worked GREAT!!!
Thanks for the fair Evaluation. You cannot ignore the fuel issue. The ram delivers greater than 10% more distance on the same fuel. With diesel around So Cal at 18:24 the high $4/gal to low $5/gal that’s the same as buying fuel for 50 cents less per gallon! Imagine saving $10/tank.
yeah but the ram is failing every month...
I have the '24 GMC 3500 and just towed my new 14k lb 5th wheel for a week...let's just say the engine exhaust work really freaking good when it kicks in! Like seriously good! GMC seems to let the transmission do it's work to slow you first before it lets the engine exhaust take over. It slowed me in the Arkansas Ozarks from 75 to 65 on a steep downhill in only a few seconds, but only after I had tapped the brakes to get it to kick in.
As for the turbo lag, I feel it too, but I've already learned to rev the engine a little before I need to gun it into traffic quickly. You test the 0 to 60 again, but with the revs higher when you launch!
I do miss the seats in my '20 Ram 1500 tho. Wife hates the GMC seats on long trips already. 😅
I tested the 24 GM and the dead pedal lag was really notable. I messaged different UA-camrs and your the only one who felt it also. It was really annoying in traffic. Some comments back were that this was normal but I've never felt it that bad when i drove the 1st Gen LP5. Its something in the GM tune.
Gotta agree but a pedal commander or a Banks and she’s a complete BEAST.
We got 4 new duramax 22 23s Out pull the dodges . Better fuel mileage 10x more reliable. With no died pedal.
@@neilenglot3039 I haven't noticed any lag in the 22 23s. In 24 they made changes to the turbo, and its controller as well as some injector and piston changes. The new electronic turbo controller is suppose to be much quicker so I expected no lag at all, but was disappointed when I dove it. I dont think its any of these changes that are causing the lag, I think it's the ECM programming that's trying to eliminate low RPM soot before the turbo spools up that would cause the DPF to regen more often.
I ordered a new 24 before driving one and am trading my 2018 Ram in but after driving one im not sure.
Drive a 24 and let us know.
@360degreemachinery That's good to hear. Was the update automatically loaded to your truck, or did you have the dealer update it?
@@360degreemachinery Did they send you notification of an update or how did you know to go in? How many mile on your Ultimate?
I'm wondering when ram is going to quit teasing us about a 9 speed Allison and do it , a Cummins paired up with Allison tranny would be the ultimate 😁👍
Ram has the best exterior and interior since 2019, I give credit to gm because finally catch up with the interior, ford and gm have to redesign almost every year just to be able to catch up with ram.🎉🎉
I have owned a 2016 3500 HO Cummins and now I own a 22 3500 Duramax. The Duramax greatly benefits from a little brake torquing before launch. There is no torque management like the Ram. I timed both in stock form with some brake torquing. At 6400 feet above sea level (where we live) the Duramax was a full second faster 0-60 7.7 seconds. Now, my Cummins was tuned. When I cranked up the Cummins to level 6 with some brake torquing it hit 60mph in 5.9 seconds with a whole heapin’ of black smoke.
Ok here is my 2 cents worth A 2500 is a 2500. Doesn’t matter what brand it is it’s a 2500 Back in the day guys understood what you could tow and haul with a 2500. There were no numbers from dealers. For me Cummins all the way In 20 years the 5th gens will still be wanted unlike the chevys. Every year of Dodge with a Cummins is still really sought after except maybe a 3d gen and some people even like them No comparison. Don’t get hung up on the numbers folks
Cummings is the only true diesel you just can't beat the big 6.
I really wanted a RAM but I got a 2019 GMC with a true Allison 6 speed and I could say the exhaust break works really good
I say no matter what brand or even engine you prefer or are true to, GMC/Chevy although still expensive and possibly overpriced are still giving you more for your money. Ive had all 3 brands over the years and since I dont really tow heavy or often, and don't want to deal wil the emissions BS, I will be ordering an LT 2500 Silverado with the 6.6 gas and the options I want from my local Chevy dealer. Just working on a price.
Chevy is trash and should have went away instead of being bailed out by stealing from taxpayers.
I say dmax on acceleration and cummins on mpg, but there’s always little variables that may tweak the results.
I am not a ram guy, but i agree when it is said that the oversquare cummins makes great low end torque, better than the other two. However i do not believe in the 68. Glad to see the latest rams have gotten away from the cp4.
3.42 accelerated like a turd
I love my 2018 ram 3500 mc 130500 kms /85000 miles just got a 150 point inspection nothing to repair. i believe we got a wednesday truck.
Ive put a little over 3,100 lbs in my '21 Sierra 5.3L, handled it with no problem!
I’ve owned a 2017 Laramie, and now a 2020 Limited Cummins and routinely pull a 10k car hauler. I do find all the hand wringing about tow rating to be a little silly as very few will tow more than about 12-13k. But the brands don’t have much else for bragging rights. It is disappointing that Ram is so slow in updating, but their interior from the 19 refresh was so far ahead of the rest as to not heed it. I am looking to upgrade and my towing needs are reduced a bit now so I am looking to move to a gas option but still an HD truck. I am looking at Ford to see if the interior upgrades are enough to get me to buy my first Ford in 40 years. We’ll see.
I love the look of the F250. I tool one for a test drove a couple of months ago and I could not get myself to like it. The cab just did not fit me like my Sierra does.
I bought RAM ! 2500 Rebel Cummins.
It’s been 1 year. How is your truck? Do you like it???
I have a '24 Chevy 3500 Duramax. The gas mileage isn't as good as my '15 Duramax, but with some work it will be better. I use Power Service Cetane Boost with every tank fill-up. It may be eliminating the lag you're experiencing.
Hey JB your spreadsheet at the end said 3500, but I know these are 2500s.
Long time subscriber, love the content. Get back in a Ram 😉but I understand comparison videos make you a living. Hope all is well with the fam!
I have a 2022 Chevy 3500 duramax and just finished a 500 mile trip getting 21.5mpg average calculated.
Empty? Not towing I would guess based on those numbers. Ram would be similar.
If your sierra was a 3500 youd get 1st gear starts. The 2500 only get 2nd gear start unless you manually drop it. Probably where the lag is with torque management
Jeez, guys, on GM trucks press and hold the Traction Control switch - HOLD it in until you see both Traction Control AND Stabillitrak turn off (you'll see yellow icons in the gauge display). Put the truck in Tow/Haul mode (this increases the line pressure on the clutches in the tranny and will help prevent slippage and limp-mode). Put the truck in 4WD HI, step on the brake with your left foot, press on the gas pedal and bring it up to about 1,500 rpm for a couple seconds. This will allow the turbo to spool, and then go to the floor with the gas pedal while at the same time coming off the brake - and HOLD ON. You aren't gonna believe what these trucks will feel like coming off the line with a 4WD boosted launch.
I think you gotta put the GMC in tow haul mode for a better take off. If I remember correctly, it basically skips 1st gear when not in tow/haul mode. You should do it again for the GMC.
Also, before watching the RAM, I’m still taking the 10speed tranny of the GM to be faster than the RAM’s 68RFE with the low-output Cummins
I'm curious as to why you got rid of your Ram? The 6.7 Cummins is hard to beat in a diesel package..
Can you elaborate pls? I currently have a 96 f250 7.3 but looking for something much newer now
So both are nice trucks first of all. However I honestly don’t think Ram is a truly viable option in the 3/4 ton segment. There’s just too many compromises you have to make with them.
On the flip side with GM you actually don’t have to go to a 3500 unless you just want to, and that was before the max tow package on the 2500s.
I say it a lot but it’s just the true facts. Ram is way behind GM and Ford in this segment. Way behind.
Cummins for the win
GMC. Hands down. I’ve driven them all. GMC. All the way
The "turbo lag" he experienced was the torque management programmed into the 2500 GM trucks. 3500 trucks do not have this software programming.
Cummins
Stupid torsion bar IFS from 20 years ago, and the way the V8 packages for maintenance just sucks. Had one, didn't keep it long term for that reason.
What about the 2023 Ram 6.4 vs 2024 Chevy 6.6.
Do you see the difference in the 10 speed chevy.
2WD or 4WD, Tire sizes and psi are important info to include
That's not near far enough for fuel mileage comparison but all agree with the GMC all the way
Gotta compare 3500s and get the HO Cummins.
GMC engineering is beyond ram and ford
You say your 6.6 Gasser is slow but the Cummins is very close to the same 0-60 time, less than 10% difference 🤔
The 2500 rams come with a detuned Cummins makes around 800 torque and 370 hp the modern gassers really aren’t as bad as people say they are.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 exactly!
Why not test the high output the horse power is closer the torque is more
Can someone please tell me what truck to get I'm almost 17 and I need to know which is better, I've worked my ass off and have a good chunk of money to spend. So now I'm just wondering which one is better, I live off-road and sometimes tow Cat tractors with my Dad's 2021 F450. So I need one with enough power for heavy duty towing and ruff and rugged terrain.
Ford Fu…g Ranger
Forget all those mpg numbers.. when you drive big rig and work on them for over 35 years we never ever tried to use mpg as an indicator. Diesel motors are based iron efficiency.. most guys like cat cummins Detroit all have numbers we look at and that is lbs of fuel burn per torque and hp... just like my 5.9 99 ram was getting 21 plus on highway.. my 2012 6.7 gets maybe 15 on highway.. but again you look at hp n tq between the 2 motors it will always require more fuel burn just because of increase in hp n tq... its really not about miles over speed like a gas... the prob is the big three just want to show off speed performance and how fast it can tow off the line... I'm mean really. I have a mack a freightliner and they range between 425hp to 500 on freightliner... believe it out not I dont care about 0 to 60. Every tractor will move 70k plus... and get itnto highway speed within a mile or so.. .its all about longhaul and minimal repairs for at least half a million miles....
I HAVE A RAM 3500 Manual Transmission and believe me is better than GMC SIERRA … AT4 are made to straight to the garbage
Ram is good on gas mean diesel
Good job comparing the two - on the GMC you have to tap the brake to engage the exhaust brake. The GMC exhaust brake protocol is for idiots. Another problem is when the brake engages it takes forever to disengage and shift back in the correct gear. Mike
Ram on takeoff
Gmc on top end
Lower fuel consumption is an obvious with lower rpm! Ram always
Ram
How many Tractor trailers run V8 diesel engines?
Cummins will always be superior. I rest my case.
Cummins will always outlast them all.
Duramaaxxxx
Gmc
Neither. 23 Ford Tremor with 6.7 HO.
Sound don't make it go. Gmc weight more.
My 2020 weight is 9,125.
Maybe you should be wearing your seatbelt properly, that would be really hurt you in an accident
Exhaust break with no load ?? Ooook 🫠 half this video is unfounded gibberish. Bro is clueless
I'll keep my 2019 Ram 3500hd, best exhaust brake, period.
Are you talking about hauling or towing? Towing wise that's nothing but if you're referring to hauling as in putting it in your bed that's beyond idiotic. It's max hauling capacity is 1,820 it's. You nearly doubling that can cause damage to your bed, power powertrain and make you a hazard to people around you.
@@CG_86 I think that you commented on the wrong post.
@@enjoytomorrowtoday Yep definitely did
Ram only needs 6cyls to do what GM and Ford 8cyls can do. Lol
Tell us you don’t know anything without telling us you don’t know anything 🤦♂️ number of cylinders makes zero difference. It’s the displacement. FYI semis have 6 cylinders…
There is a reason you see Cummins always winning truck pulls for the majority of them. It's real funny seeing Chevy's and Ford's running Cummins motors at the pulls too 🤣
Not mention that they use 10 speed transmissions
Most train diesels pull 40-50 loaded cars with only 12 cylinders. It’s all about the output
@@Billybob50119 The guy is broke that his RAM is not giving optimal outcomes. RAM makes the most stupid trucks in the market. (telling it out of experience with 2 RAMs)
1. They have less HP than the other two.
2. They're ridiculously slow.
3. They make the most tiniest cab in the segment making it uncomfortable for the rear passengers.
4. They cost more than the other two. (in similar trims)
5. They damn heckin' RUST.
Now some people argue that the Cummins can tow more. True, but how much more? 1000lbs? Is that all you want? I can't in life imagine why anyone would buy a RAM currently. I bought a RAM 3500 back in 2015, later bought a 2020 RAM 3500 Dually, traded it in for an F-350 in 2022 and currently have a GMC 3500 Denali. Sad to see RAM still going with the 2020 config.
To be honest with a truck I dont concern with 0-60. I want it to pass quickly so maybe 50-75. Kinda hard to test I think but I cant tell how many time a decently fast truck from the start is a pig trying to pass someone.
Cummins
Like Driving a big rig empty, with the Jake on, why you do that ,,put you threw the windshield, lol chevy smarter, don't need it with empty truck,,
GMC all the way
Ram all tbe way
Gm is garbage
I’m a GM fan more than any other truck brand. Love them. I would own and drive a Ram if towing regularly for exhaust brake and ease of maintenance on the straight six. For my personal vehicle…GM HD
G ay M ans C ar
Got to touch the brakes for exhaust brake to work at full potential
I'm pretty sure Ram keeps it at 10k, so businesses can use them. Over that you get into Dot #'s, CDL, etc. And good news if you need more you can just buy the 3500.
Love the new charts you are putting up so we can really see the numbers side by side - but you listed these trucks as 3500 LOL little typo! Thanks for the review
Ram is very
The Cummins 8-speed is for me, a little smoother than the 10-speed Duramax. Seems GM may maybe one revision away
After owning a 2022 ram 3500 and now the Duramax 3500 both long bed, the ram have that long lag were the Duramax not as much. I like the way the cummins sound but the Duramax I'm getting use to the sound, the seat in the Ram is more comfortable than the Duramax which I am adopting.
The fuel mileage in the Ram I was getting on the highway about 21-22 with the cruise control on buy with the new Duramax I'm still testing. I have a long trip coming up with the new Duramax next week that I will be checking it out buy with the Ram I tow a 5th wheel cross country and man I love it. The 5th wheel I have now which I haven't weight it yet buy I would guess it's about 14k-15k lbs, I will check to see how the Duramax do but I don't see any issues. Awesome video JD.
I drove the chevy high country, 3500 Dually, and the Crap Ram, hmm, chevy put steps on the front of bed on the rear bumper, I'm old need that. And comes with the side running board, Ram don't come shit, interior way better than ram, had all the options, 5th wheel package power fold mirrors heated, front camera, well I'm only going to tow a 18,000 lb, rv Fifthwheel, so don't care about the com apart, power,, and the HIGH COUNTRY, msrp, 93, grand, dealers sell em for 75 grand, ram stuck at over a hundred Grand, lol, screw that,,
Back in the, Day.. CAT. 3406,, HMM, pump em up, they smoke any thing, , Then the Yamaha Detroit, lol, v 8 Deisel 2 stroke, lol, them things you knew what there were, they had the 671 super charger on em,, blower, they put on gas engines,, they scream, put so much smoke out,, why there all gone, but, they wind up so fast, drivers had to be on top of game to shift the gears, they beat most cars off the line lol,
The engine brake probably dont engage tell you touch the brake, most new semis are that way now too
Exhaust brake works a lot better with the torque converter locked up, you need to be in tow/haul mode
GMC
Down shift a gear and turn on the exhaust brake. I rarely use the brakes
Duramax is a beast!
my 2016 ram is failing every month it feels like with 143000...transmition in march, waterpump now, radiator last year
That’s nothing compared to ford, they have catastrophic engine failures with very low mileage, and I’ve seen some chevys with transmission failures as well.
Gotta be in trailer mode, lol
Ram still has that low payload, they need to change that no one buying that 9800 gvw 😂
💥💥 IM NOT WANNA LIE BUT I USE TO HAVE A GMC SIERRA 2500 and is just a piece of 🗑️ ❌CRAP❌🗑️ AFTER 150,000 milles start with so many problems and I use it as a construction work truck everyday, I have a trailer and didn’t put so much heavy staff and I have to many problems with it but …….
I GET A ❌💥💥RAM 2500 Laramie LongHorn Manual Transmission is beast everywhere I go 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Chevy with the 10speed easily, no comparison
Using a trip meter for mpg is a sin. They are horrifically inaccurate.
Best motor…Cummins….best. Truck…chevy@@@@
My 21 l5p isn’t that kind of a delay
Duramax
Duramax...
GM don’t have the Allison any more. The 10 speed transmission that GM has behind the Duramax is a Ford trans. Allison let them put their brand on it and I feel it was a huge mistake considering all the problems the 10 speeds have been having. Also if you want to put Horsepower comparisons, you should get the Ram 3500 H.O. With the 6 speed Aisin trans with over 1,000lbs torque Vs the Duramax.
Dirtymax
The only reason RAM is using Cummins is because Stellantis cannot make good Diesel engines, the ecoboost died because emissions and it was pretty bad engine. I have a friend that had three engines of the ecoboost, that engines died afte 100k miles. While the GM or Ford last much more than Stellantis Diesel Engine.
I’ll be happy to disrespect the Firestone tires for ya JB. My first HD truck had them and had to replace at 25,000 miles. Firestone Workforce tires are garbage.
Ram
Another input, the New Chevy and Gmc, there trucks, are massive in the front,, love it, I used to Drive over the road, in a Kenworth large car,, so like the size of gm trucks,
JB, you gotta stop screwing around and hook your 5’er to yours and hit that grade so we can all see if the 37’s are straight or not. Let’s go!
with my 24 if u drive it aggressively for a bit it will accelerate alot quicker. otherwise it will take off gently.
U mean 2003 Truck better engine saves more gas then 2024 Thats progress boys? 😅
Definitely the Duramax for me. Plenty capable enough for most.
Capable if you don’t use your truck everyday.
Monster trucking you sound like a bad joke 🤣 what do you know Jack
@@chanceheimann919 I do know the Duramax is a turd. It accelerates like molasses and the overall truck is just garbage. I’ve owned 2 brand new ones and never will I buy GM garbage again. My 2021 and 2022 where both left inoperable at about 5k miles. Both frames had rust all over them not even 6 months old. Sold both of these trucks back to the dealer. Never again.
The mega cab is around 800lbs more than the crew which is most equivalent to the gmc.
Which one will make it to 300k with extremely low maintenance cost? Neither. Buy a 6.6 gasser.
Delete and both will be just fine. Gassers suck if you tow
@DanJ259 I tow 6 days a week. Just not the +15k that makes a diesel necessary.
@chadmiller6487 you get what you pay for man. Unless you pulling light stuff, diesel is the only way to go. You trolling lol
Lag is because it is a 2500 and has torque management in the first 3 gears
GMC, Step up the seat package I'm GMC Please!
You should have got the 6.7 HO engine to try
duramax due to 10speed tranny
Ram will win Chevy sucks
Ram is the winner.
I think the GMC will win
Cummins is slow