How to Zero Your Pistol Red Dot
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2017
- In this Briefing Room video we continue to talk about Pistol Red Dot Sights. Today we are at the range and go over how Dave Zero's his pistol red dot sights. To save a little time you can co-witness the dot to the iron sights but the two should be sighted in separately. In this video we use the 10 Yard RMR Zeroing Target from Arma Dynamics. You can download the target for free from their website. Be sure to check out our other videos on this topic in the Briefing Room Playlist. Thanks for watching!
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Excellent resource for first time RDS users. The RMR targets are also a huge bonus. Thanks for your time and efforts. Cheers ...
Great video, I just subbed to your channel. You’re one of the only guys on UA-cam that actually answers questions, good for you!
Awesome timing, zeroing mine soon. Thanks for sharing the great information.
Thanks for watching
Outstanding INSTRUCTIONAL vid !!
Thx!!
Just found this video. Thanks for the printable target website address. Great video by the way.
Thank you for you help. I believe 10 yards is perfect too.
Awesome I’m in process of sighting two of my Red Dot s also I use a stand too keep it steady and a Pistol rest.
Nicely done. I'll be referring back to this when my red dot is installed.
thanks for the video. really makes life easier.
Thanks for the video. I will be mounting a Burris Fastfire III on a Glock 40 soon and this will help.
Dude! Awesome video - nice shooting too.
Awesome...thanks for the vid.
Thanks for the video and the Arma Dynamics targets. I believe they will really be a big help. I guess my only suggestion would have been a one or two-minute explanation that the grid is .5" squares and that the numbers around the target show how many clicks you need to move those distances. Seriously, you have provided a great resource. Thanks.
Thank you for the tips and guidance
Great video
I just made a new version of this video that is a more simple approach.
Thanks for the great video! Very informative and helpful!!
Check out my newer version of this video
ua-cam.com/video/uFBMXkHwkF0/v-deo.html
Late to this video, but great Info!! Thanks for posting!
I put a ade delta on a ruger sr9c, im always wide left and very high off the paper.. no matter what adjustments made it stayed way off.. is it a cheap red dot?? I have two sig romeo 5s and they adjust easy
I use the bench for support when zeroing, then I confirm offhand. Thanks for the video.
Sorry, I commented before I watched the whole video LOL
No prob thanks for watching
@@davidfarber2210 No need to apologize, just delete your comment by clicking on the 3 dots to the right and choosing delete.
Great job
Thanks
Good video. I wouldn’t have adjusted mine that way but if that works for you then cudos
If you zero the dot at 10 yards, holding the dot at center of target, where do you hold the dot at 25/50 yards? I presume you are aiming high, or can you still hold the dot on target?
Wouldn't it be able ti get it exact if you sed one of the shooting vise that has those springs and clamps your gun in a device ? wonder if just a vise with some pads to hold it secure would work.?
Yeah you probably could but how many people have pistol vise rests? Not many. As far as regular vise pads not really ideal. If you want to be more solid use sandbags.
I'm using an RMSc on a G43x, I thought the co-witness is that the red dot is in front of the FRONT sight, thus my shots were always low. I adjusted my red dot to the middle aligning on top of the front sight, can't wait to go back to the range to test it out.
Ignore the front sight. Red dot works alone. Iron sights are only there if the dot goes down. You want the red dot in the center of the window
@@GunsandTactics yes that's what I did in my adjustments
I'm new to red dot sights. After making adjustments to the red dot sight do you always put he red dot back in the center of the sight window before firing the next shot at the target.
Yes, after making your adjustment the presentation and site picture would be the same
Great way to zero your sight! Good advice!
Bought a RMR06 type 2. Which direction do I move the top and bottom? If I shoot low and to the left(assuming grip and stance is right) how do I use the clicks to move red dot?
On the RMR the direction listed will move the point of impact.
looks like the RMR was much easier to zero, great video thanks
Great video, thank you. I have a Vortex Venom and EGW adapter plate on the way. How will sighting in the red dot be different since the adapter will raise the red dot and not allow co-witnessing?
No difference just zero. Handguns don’t cowitness, zero each sight system separately
You don't want to cowitness a pistol red dot. Align the iron sight as like you would normally then zero the red dot ignoring the iron sights
Finally! a video firearms instructor who is not wearing a baseball cap on his head (forward OR backward) with sunglasses.
I try :-). This is even an older video ha ha.
Great video I have rmrs and jpoint son all my pistols
Thanks!
Excelente Thank You So Much!!!
Check out the updated version
I know this video is a old but I recently got a fn with a vortex venom, I've yet to take it out but it seems the dot does not go low enough for me to comfortably aim the firearm
Angle and presentation should be almost the same when using your iron sights
Excellent, I just got a Vortex Venom and need to zero it. Thanks.
Glad you like it!
What was your point of aim at 25 yards? All of the rounds hit low on the steel target. Also, where does the dot sit inside the RMR window? Do you have it lollipoping the front sight so that if you had to use the iron sights everything is still zeroed?
I don’t recall exactly where I was aiming but usually I pick a spot on the steel target where there is a mark and shoot for that. I do not have the dot co-witnessing or “Lolly popping” with the front sight I treat them as independent sight systems. If the sight were to go down I just look through the empty window and use the iron sights on their own
Anyone tried to bore sight a RMR to get started? With my 34 G5 at 10 yards the bore laser is insanely high. If i adjust my RMR to the bore it will be at the very very top of the glass.
Just start at 10 yards. You should be on paper and then dial in
Do you line up your red dot with the front iron sight or just place the red dot in the center of the optic ?
Kyle Kuhbander Just use the dot and ignore the sights basically Iron and red dot are separate systems and don’t need to be used together.
So, I’ve got a 3 MOA sight. How would I go about sighting that in?
Same as shown, the dot size doesn’t change the sight in process
One small thing I’ve learned is to reduce the brightness as much as possible. Might help with the 3 MOA. It’s helped me immensely. Just my experience
what about a bore sight?
I can’t believe you complaining lol, this is good grouping, Actually very nice
+David Adiv meh it wasn’t a good group for me
Quick question: if a gun is zeroed in at 10 yards, would the sight be inaccurate at 25 yards or 5 yards even? And when shit hit the fan, your targets won't stay at 10 yards for you to shoot.
What then?
With a 10 yard zero impacts at 25 will be about an inch off. In my latest video on handgun zero I talk about this a little but plan on making a more in depth video on the different zeros
Wow! 😎
When you co-witness with iron sights where should the red Dot be in relation to the front sight post
I don't co-witness them, the iron sights are strictly a back up sight. When I shoot the dot I ignore the irons, only use the irons when the dot isn't there. Zero them each independently.
@@GunsandTactics thanks!
Is that RMS reliable? I've heard mixed reviews including that it belongs in the airsoft-only realm.
+LiftWhereYouStand so far it's been holding it very well. Full review will be late fall after I have around 10k though it.
review one mounted on a shotgun
Fuuuk no...
how do you bench shoot?
any methods to make zeroing idiot proof?
+JK 241 rest the pistol or your bottom grip on a soft rest.
QUESTION: If you set at 10 yds, how does the elevation is compensated at 25 yds? Don't you have to adjust the target location due to trajectory drop?
Nope. Look on some ammo boxes. The 9mm round usually reaches the top (apogee) of the curve at 25 yards and drops from there. Anything before that will hit high, anything after that will hit low. That's why they suggest you zero at 25 yards.
Where do you get that cool wheel?
Comes with the Shield RMS sight
How about a benchrest and save the ammo?
Steve: This was suggested in the video at the end.
definitely have to rest the gun ... , thanks for the target !
df2dot that’s why I wanted to watch this video...I was wondering how you rest a pistol like you would a rifle for sighting
does the millitary have a more accurate way of doing this?
+yourtub not sure I’m not in the military. Only specialty groups are using red dots on pistols I’m told. The reality is the pistol is mostly a secondary gun for the military.
What is the make and model f that holster you are using
Safariland 6354DO, I have a video coming up on red dot pistol holsters -Dave
I love my 6354DO!
My pistol is zeroed , groups are tight, but the dot is a little left of the iron sight. Anyone else experience this ? Doesn’t happen on AR, JUST PISTOL. Any thoughts ? Trigger control ?
Zero the iron sights. Zero the dot. If they happen to Co witnesses great. However reality is they might not due to a variety of issues. If the dot goes down transition to back up sights. Don’t over think it :-)
GUNS & TACTICS thanks. That’s what I needed. Was being super annoyed by it. I’ll breathe .....lol
I’ve same issue the red dot is centered and hit at point of aim but not aligned with the irons
How can you zero it from shooting if you're still not a very good shooter? It could be off because of my wrist or squeeze an not the dot
You ca use a bag or rest below the hand or grip. That can help stabilize the gun and allow you to make a solid group.
At 25 yards are you still aiming dead center? With 10 yard zero?
Yup confirm point of aim is point of impact at 25, adjust if needed
Thanks man ! I have a sig p320 and I just ordered the romeo1 6MOA I can’t wait to go to the range and test it out!
is your optic co-witness or absolute co-witness?
What kind of glasses are those? Look like great range eyes
Oakley tombstone
Can you zero a Holosun 507k x2
Yup same principle
This inexperienced newbie missed something. I am getting ready to zero my new red dot sight and landed on your video. If I zero at 10 yards, I don't have to hold-over at 25 yards? I assume the drop is negligible so I don't have to concern myself with that? Not sure why so many manufacturers recommend or suggest zeroing at 25 yards if zero at 10 yard gets you the same thing. I will have to keep up my youtube search for more info.
I’m going to update some videos over the winter on RDS handguns.
I'm a little worried about 2 things on this wasp optic. Basically the elevation and wind age screws. They should have been designed to click but their free wheeling. My fears are that they'll vibrate loose and not hold zero too long or vibrate loose and fall out. Considering to put a small dab of putty or a small dot of loc tight with a tooth pic once I get them where I want them. Anyone else think of this as design flaw ?
Just run a proven optic Trijicon or Holosun.
Mine came with the shield smsc . I have similar concerns. That and a constant on. Time will tell
@@TeamTnA44 well it's been over a year now and the red dot is still going strong.
How many realistic rounds
All these zeroing videos, but they never talk about where the dot should be in the window.
I’ve seen in the middle. But mine came “zeroed” and it sits lower third of window on the front sight post. And I hit where it shows. Should I “zero” it so the dot is in the middle of the window?
Go Bucks center of the window is where you should hold the dot. Ignore the iron sights when shooting the dot, just use the dot as it’s own system and pretend the irons aren’t there unless you need them as a back up. Present the gun so the dot is in the center of the window and I’m guessing your point of impact won’t change much or at all. Red dot parallax is a thing but not so much as people make it out to be. Any red dot, rifle or pistol, you want the dot to be in the center of the tube or box to reduce parallax issues.
I’m also going to add this question to this months QA as it is a great talking point
GUNS & TACTICS subscribed. Thanks.
I been shooting rifles with optics for a while, and that has always been in middle (which also happens to align with my flip up irons) and I hit what I point it at, of course aiming up or down depending on how far I am (sighted at 50/200).
I figured pistol would be the same it as it sits it is Lower part of window. So I just make sure it’s there and I hit. I may adjust the dot to the middle and see if it’s easier to acquire.
Which optic are you using
GUNS & TACTICS Holosun 507c
Why can’t you simply use a bore sight laser and line up the red dot with the boresight laser light inside and bench mounted???
You certainly could start with that
You are zeroing to where the ammo hits, not a perfect straight line out of the barrel. The carry ammo may hit above or below that.
dude good shooting. here i was thinking i was a decent shot. not even haha
awesome sight for the money
I was told when u zero u want human era out as much as possible. Sandbag.🎯 plus u aren’t wasting ammo oh! I pulled that one. I sandbag everything it’s dead on,then when I miss after, I know it was me.☹️
How many clicks do you got to go up
Depends on how far off you are :-)
Much much much easier, cheaper, and fast use a Laser Bore Sight Kit and set it up at the distance you want, this way you avoid human error
Laser bore sights arent 100%, all they do is help you get on paper and then you make your adjustments from there.
I'M NOT MAKING EXCUSES BUT EXCUSES!!!!
Yup excuses excuses I know
How are you co witnessing
+Ardo Rivera for pistols I really don't truly co witness. I zero both independently. If the dot goes down the back ups are there. With the Shield they are pretty close to a co witness though. However with a pistol I don't think co witnessing is very critical as each sight system should be zerod.
But he does have height sights on his G34, correct?
PDAI PRODUCTIONS the suppressor height sights are needed on the 34 as the RMR sits up higher
Just rest the dot right above your irons or front sight, and go from there...a pistol zero isn't hard ppl lol. Unless you bought a cheap sight.
Doesn’t work that way for best results. They are separate sight systems and should be zerod separately.
Good video but am surprised the sight was zeroed offhand. Zeroing should always be done with a solid support to get the best zeroing. Sandbags work well, but anything to rest the rifle or gun on helps with better sighting in.
Yeah it was a nice video but i still don't understand. Stop me if i'm mistaken but to eliminate "human" or "physiomechanical" issues in your zeroing process, isn't shooting from a good shooting rest a far better idea, for precision and consistency sake ? I wouldn't trust my gun to be "zeroed" by my hand alone. Too many factors at play.
Yup certainly an option. Usually I can shoot an inch or so at 10 yards so not a big issue and can adjust accordingly.
You never zero a gun shooting offhand. Always use sandbags or a solid rest to sight in a weapon. Shooting offhand does nothing to eliminate human error.
+Jim Snyder I certainly understand that and somewhat agree. However with pistols I've also seen quite frequently the zero be completely different off hand versus a rest due to harmonics, interference etc. Zeroing a rifle is different from a pistol. So long as you can be consistent do what works for you. The dot was on out to 50 as shown in this video and I've since shot it out to 100 with no issues. Thanks for watching. -Dave
@@GunsandTactics Agree 100%
The best way to zero a sight: Put a clay pigeon at the distance you want. Then walk the bullet into the clay, then fine tune on a target. Simple
Shouldn't you bench rest doing this
Answered your same comment on the new video
Get a proper last name, Dave/Tim
+bass779 I'll get right on that.
My advice, zero on something stable. Use a backpack or something to that nature. Also slow down with your shots, don’t just send em down range like this dude. Once zeroed in, train hard.
Check out my updated video on this topic.
Am i retarded or something? I click these videos because i dont know how to zero my red dot and when it comes to actually zeroing your sight, you just completely gloss over how exactly how the dial works. 80% of the vid is shooting and theres like 5 seconds of adjusting while giving zero explanation as to which way and how much you’re supposed to move the dial
Made a new version just for you :-)
ua-cam.com/video/uFBMXkHwkF0/v-deo.html
@@GunsandTactics W thanks
So your long day and hot sun and tired all excuses… SO… take you out of the equation and rest the pistol. I am not a fan of resting my gun while practicing. I AM however a huge fan of resting while zeroing. It’s always better than I am.
Check out my updated version It’s excuse free :-)