loved your video. i got two offers and i was told all of these negative things but my gut is telling me everything is going to be fine and you’ve just confirmed that for me. thank you.❤️ i’m in tech as well.
Awesome, glad I could help. Apparently there is a Reddit group and discord called Over Employed for people working two remote jobs. Might be worth checking out.
Same right now...i get a cool job for a company in Canada and working from Argentina. I need the money for an eye operation (that i have to borrow 5k usd)...i start this monday and get a cool offer for an UK company for a movie software very awesome that i like but it seem more risky.....some friends tell me to take both jobs at leat for 3 to 6 month, i have some fears because contract let me work for different companies, but I hope as I see this video: everything going to be fine.
I am here for this!!! I’m in the accounting field. I have a full time contract and part time job and my own clients. It’s been a lot. I always feel like I’m behind yet most people are satisfied with my work. I need a break though lol and to re-think this. I am about to binge watch all your videos!! I agree with the “hard stop” thing, this situation really built my confidence to speak up because… I had to lol
I really needed to see this. I've been looking for a second remote job, but I think all the negative sentiments I've been hearing definitely held me back from pursuing it whole-heartedly. This video convinced me that I need to take the plunge and do what's best for me.
I’ve been doing the same for the past 3 months. Has been working out really well… except it’s hard to manage conflicting meeting times between 2 different employers that are not aware of each other… and make excuses why I need to push back or move meeting times.
@@JakeFerrinI been doing it for 8 months now…. Luckily, both my jobs don’t require too many meetings and one is East cost and the other west cost …. Working out great so far 😂
I really relate to the sentiment of wanting to build up enough savings to be able to work on other projects / businesses full time. Really resonated with me. I feel the same way and have also been OE for quite some time in order to achieve this aim.
Hey there, I'm currently working full-time as a Product Owner, and I've recently accepted a position as a Full Stack Developer. I'm concerned about managing both roles, especially since the Product Owner position requires me to relocate to the site. Do you have any advice on how to handle this situation? Thank you.
What products were you designing? I was a product owner/manger in the LA area making $110k/yr from 2016-2019 (never got a raise) for a major company. Until this week, since then have been making $175k/yr as a software consultant (finally got a raise this week, putting me at $192k), and I'm in my late 30s. I finished two highly technical bachelor degrees in parallel, from two different schools, in two different fields, all while maintaining a full-time career managing multi-million dollar projects for the government.Then immediately went into completing an M.S. in Engineering (which I started the same time I relocated and started a completely new career in a completely different industry; the product owner role I mentioned earlier). Now, I owe $88k in student loans, which was AFTER I ran out of GI Bill and got military discounts on tuition. I guess I should've forgone finishing those degrees and just got another job (well, technically I also had another job, as I was teaching engineering and emergency medicine at the collegiate level.) I guess I'm just working for the wrong organizations or something...🤷♂
Hey Jake, love the last bit of the video with Arnold. That being said, I’m going to go ahead and take a risk myself and ask if I could hop on a call/make an interview video with you? (Only if you have time in between your two jobs and UA-cam of course haha)
@@abioladavis7888 Yes, still friends haha. It wasn't a big deal. They were really cool about it when they found out. I talked more about it in this other video ua-cam.com/video/rynO-LpYvyI/v-deo.html
@@abioladavis7888 I do miss the extra income but I was so busy. It's nice to have my life back. And yeah we met our savings target. My goal was to do it until the end of the year (8 months).
I make $50k or less. Damn I need a tech job. Should donebit earlier. I have 7 years of computer science classes from 1997-2006. I used to work 85 hours a week is seriously dangerous and high end kitchens (simultaneously). This ain't jack. I could easily do 120 hours and wish I had rhat much work. Even 60 would be better. I am stuck and looking
I felt it when you said Highest paid product manager lol. I did the same recently I am one of the highest-paid sysadmins right now making 280K a year, I would say its not that bad.
I think the only way would be to downplay the existing job. It only takes a couple hours per week, I’m planning on working nights and weekends etc. But unless this second company is desperate they probably won’t be ok with it.
How do you get around background checks? If you decide to leave a job and they do a check and find you worked two jobs at once, that could be an issue if they are able to contact that employer.
Why would it be an issue? I have worked multiple jobs simultaneously. Even when I list them on my resume, it shows overlapping dates. I don't try to hide it
they dont get offended that you worked more than one full time job at a time? I feel like they will look down on that. I know some people just put a primary job on their resume and leave the others out since they most likely will not turn up unless you tell them on the application
@@JakeFerrin I´ve heard that UX design involves a lot of meetings and presentations, do you think that is still manageable to get 2 jobs in this field at the same time? or is web development a better option?
Hey Jake, My name is Jeff and I recently came across your channel and love the grind/ and the content so far. I am 28 years old and starting my journey in tech and wanted to know if i could pick your brain. I know that a youtube comment from a random faceless avatar is kind of weird and probably not exactly how i should go about asking for some guidance but here we are haha. I sent you a request on IG, if the request isn't something you want to do or you dont have time for it, i understand. I will still watch your videos and subscribe. Either way, thanks for readi g my comment. -Jeff
But when do you meet your family? When you exercise? When you see your friends? Money isn't worth forgetting all the valuable things you have in your life. Even though it's just a short period of your life. I just can't watch this money-driven lifestyle, complete bs
That’s wild, I’ve been doing that for 6 months as an analyst and interface tester. It’s been great money and a fun experience, work wise it’s not too bad just meetings need to be juggled accordingly.
Thanks for your insight! I've been contemplating getting a part-time job in addition to a full-time remote job. Now, i'm thinking.. what about two full-time remote jobs? With time management and a clear goal in mind, I think its totally worth it and do-able!
I'm in the process of making this happen. I have a final interview next week, but I also had a panic attack last night thinking about juggling everything. This video gave me hope.
@@JakeFerrin Thanks so much! I already have a few part-time gigs and I've always had multiple jobs since I was 14 (ha!), so I'm thinking it will be similar to that. I think I was more scared of getting found out! But hey, companies should just pay enough for us to not have to think about this, right?! Thanks for the Inspo!
@@Mclovinsit omg! Thanks for checking in! I actually decided to quit my current position and just take the new one that I was offered! I realized I just needed to shed some dead weight and start my life anew! Are you considering 2 remote positions idea?
@@missmoe427 definitely considering it, glad to hear it worked out in a good way though. Starting a better job is still a big positive! My current data analyst job is pretty slow so I’ve been looking into it. Could I ask how many years of experience you had before thinking about being over employed? Im fresh out of college but got lucky on my job being so slow haha.
So I did this for a year as an IT product manager. It kind of happen the same I applied for a job happen to get it but I liked my other job but I said I would try it out etc my salary was around 279,00 with both jobs and I did it a little over year onlybreason I stopped was cause one job wanted to go to a hybrid schedule. I became debt free , brought a house etc I just wish I bulked up more in my 401 k n savings I recommend it but only for contract jobs
I just received a second offer which puts me well over 100k. I asked myself the same question, “why quit”? It’s all about negotiating the right salary, with no time constraints. It’s better to have assignment-based salary positions than logged time hours. It’s a great hustle but if not done right you could burn out. Good stuff though!!
Great video. I also found this out years ago when I wanted to start trading and go to school while working full-time. I sort of eased into it. However, these days I work full-time as a Software Engineer, I am taking 4 CS classes at a University and run a successful small hedge fund. I also exercise and eat healthy everyday, get plenty of sleep. With all that said, I am super efficient with my time and sometimes downright rude to people who want to waste it. You would think there is no way I could do this but...I just got a promotion at my job with a bonus, I currently have a 4.0 and about to graduate from school and my hedge fund made 172% profit last year. I totally agree that Parkinson's law is a thing!
@Racmag I'm into CS as well (currently in university), but I ended up doing a Finance Internship for a bank's investment firm. I'm still pursuing CS, because I value it, but I am seriously considering leveraging some potential connections to start one someday. Do you have any advice in regards to that business?
@@Izaz-ke7dt You don't need to work at an investment firm to start a business. The reason is because (assuming you are even make it to the head investment side). They all use commercial strategies that won't work on the retail side. I'd advise you to start paper trading and get profitable (that takes many years and lots of learning)
Jake- Question: How did you fill out the tax form when you have a two jobs? I believe W4 form specifically asks for if you have a second job, right? So employer wouldn’t know?
Thanks Jake for your insight. 1. On a scale from 1 to 10 (1 no stress, 10 extreme stress), what would you rate your stress level when doing these 2 jobs? 2. Burnout level on scale 1-10? 3. How many hours a night were you able to get on average?
Stress level between 6 and 10. Design work goes in waves so the stress level depended on how busy I was. Burnout was about the same. I got plenty of sleep, never needed to stay up super late to work, but I did have to work after from like 7:00-11:00 some nights when I would rather be with my family.
@@JakeFerrin damn, I'm regularly up until 2am working on a mixture of my own business and my primary job (which pulls in less than $200k, and I "only" have the one job). For the past 20+ years, basically since high school, I've gotten about 4-5 hours of sleep per night, never much more than that, usually less.
I'm thinking of getting a second job. I already have a full time job as a fraud analyst and am thinking of becoming a virtual assistant since I'm working at home.
@@BEASTNYC no I didn't get a raise. The old job even paid less than the new one. I kept the old one because it was so easy and allowed me to work on more stuff on the side like the UA-cam channel.
I have two questions: - What about meetings? Were there ever conflicts between the two jobs? - Did you tell the new employer that you were going to quit the other?
Meetings are a struggle. I talk about it in my Q&A video on two jobs (linked below). I had conflicting meetings and tried to attend both with my video off and it was a nightmare. I started bailing/rescheduling if I had conflicting meetings. I never told them outright that I was going to quit. They just assumed I would since that's what everyone does lol ua-cam.com/video/rynO-LpYvyI/v-deo.html&lc=Ugw8m8SAmFrJYRiRdkR4AaABAg
@@azzangoeting7691 I did something like that once when I was working full time and I was also taking a full-time bootcamp. I had conflicting meetings where I had to actively share and talk. Two computers, 1 air pod in my ear, and the other was on speaker low volume. I had to manage mute, volume, and camera throughout the meetings. It was stressful, but doable. But I wouldn't recommend it for strategic planning meetings, only like status report type meetings.
@@KonniWilson Valid point yea the approach I shared only works for standup type of meetings not for meetings that you need to lead or where an involved conversation is required, for those I would really try to hold those type of meetings on a dedicated time slot so that you can give it your full focus.
Hey I just posted a video answering your question, how the one company found out. Take a look if you’re interested. And thanks for the question! ua-cam.com/video/luBR_QK7z5E/v-deo.html
I’m looking to do this. I am working completely remote now and I am in the process of getting another one. I’m nervous. But I know I can do this. It would be so wonderful for my family.
Haha I love your video! I wish I thought of this a long time ago but just realized why can I just work a 2nd remote job since it’s not really busy? And it took me 4 months to think of it. I’m so mad. But working on getting a 2nd one now. Thanks
Hi Jake. Thanks for sharing your history in a super honest way. I have one question, how did you manage the background check for your second job? Did you tell your second job company to not contact your current company back then?
Hey, am 22, from italy, I work in a warehouse and it does not give me satisfaction, you go there you work then come back home and nothing for 1200/1300 EUR in a month and I want to change can you suggest me how to start a path similar to yours or something else? what do you think about UX designer's of COURSERA courses in 6 months you became ux designer.
Hey JOBAN. I would definitely recommend looking into UX. It’s getting more and more crowded but it doesn’t take a lot to stand out. I don’t know about the coursera courses. They’re probably a good place to start. Google has a free UX certification you can earn as well that would help you get started. Good luck!
Did you have any problems with the fact that you only had one company on linkedin as a current place of job? How did you solve the problem with calls? calls from one company could overlap with calls from another
Plot twist. Most tech people are actually doing this secretly. Actually I know a person who is doing this and moved to Dubai🌴, none of his higher management knows.
Once your other job found out about your other role how did you move forward with management? Did you ever discuss it with them/ do you have any tips and tricks about communicating with your leaders about your other job?
I am currently working 4 remote jobs and I told the managers in two of them (where I had the trust). I simply came up to them and said "look, I have another offer that I really want to take and I also dont want to leave working for you". If they get the feeling that you will still treat them as your main job and have enough trust that you submit your work on time then it is great. It is actually even more than that.....not having to lie why you cannot make it to the meeting or just simply not be stressed about them finding out is great.
@@JakeFerrin Well I made an agreement with myself that I will be done with all the work by 4 pm every day. That leaves you with prioritizing and managing to do every job for 2 hours a day. However, I often take the easiest tasks and finish them over weekends just cause I know it will take away lot of stress from regular days. This is only possible when you observe your contracts and actually fire employers/clients who want way too much work and replace them with ones which are slow paced. I found that huge corporates usually are more slow paced.
I make $13 per hour before tax working 40 hours per week on my feet per week. I can do better but I don't know which direction to go. I'm 39. Subbed: Because of the basement tour fun
Depends on how bad you want to keep that job. I was willing to walk away from both companies if things went south. I wouldn't have taken the risk if I really needed one of the jobs.
Industrial design might help to start understanding design but it's less direct. The most direct degree for UX is a human computer interaction degree (HCI). Graphic design would help too. I never got a degree though. Getting a design job is all about your work you can show. I made this video on how to get into UX: ua-cam.com/video/NQSgmi0CH6M/v-deo.html
It's so hard to do this in the UK because of the PAYE tax system your employer is aware of your other income streams in order to assign your tax bracket.
You are correct but only the payroll see this and surely they are not able to discuss with others on your income as that would be illegal. I have had simultaneous 2 jobs in UK without any problem, just make sure there’s nothing in your contract not allowing it.
Look up "Google Certification Courses". They offer free online courses on a few jobs that could all be done remotely: UX design, digital marketing, data analytics, project management. Then from there you can decide what interests you the most. Good luck!
I have just had a interview today for my second job and got it so now I’m working my two I’m excited fr
loved your video. i got two offers and i was told all of these negative things but my gut is telling me everything is going to be fine and you’ve just confirmed that for me. thank you.❤️ i’m in tech as well.
Awesome, glad I could help. Apparently there is a Reddit group and discord called Over Employed for people working two remote jobs. Might be worth checking out.
Same right now...i get a cool job for a company in Canada and working from Argentina. I need the money for an eye operation (that i have to borrow 5k usd)...i start this monday and get a cool offer for an UK company for a movie software very awesome that i like but it seem more risky.....some friends tell me to take both jobs at leat for 3 to 6 month, i have some fears because contract let me work for different companies, but I hope as I see this video: everything going to be fine.
I am here for this!!! I’m in the accounting field. I have a full time contract and part time job and my own clients. It’s been a lot. I always feel like I’m behind yet most people are satisfied with my work. I need a break though lol and to re-think this. I am about to binge watch all your videos!! I agree with the “hard stop” thing, this situation really built my confidence to speak up because… I had to lol
I feel you on the need for a break. It’s a lot. There has got to be better ways to make money haha
Is your full time job in Public accounting?
Same here so I feel you.
I’m an accountant as well. Tip: A virtual assistant (w/ an accounting background) is a lifesaver for those mundane monthly tasks.
I really needed to see this. I've been looking for a second remote job, but I think all the negative sentiments I've been hearing definitely held me back from pursuing it whole-heartedly. This video convinced me that I need to take the plunge and do what's best for me.
I’ve been doing the same for the past 3 months. Has been working out really well… except it’s hard to manage conflicting meeting times between 2 different employers that are not aware of each other… and make excuses why I need to push back or move meeting times.
That is honestly the worst part. Your WiFi can only go down so many times lol. Best of luck to you my guy. Enjoy the extra income.
@@JakeFerrinI been doing it for 8 months now…. Luckily, both my jobs don’t require too many meetings and one is East cost and the other west cost …. Working out great so far 😂
Love love love. Keep it coming man. Don’t slow down now that you’ve quit one of your tech jobs.
I really relate to the sentiment of wanting to build up enough savings to be able to work on other projects / businesses full time. Really resonated with me. I feel the same way and have also been OE for quite some time in order to achieve this aim.
I thought the same thing as you. And loved the Lotr Bilbo Baggins reference.
My hubby does the same! I do t mind it because it's remote and I am too!
I’m in tech as well with one job. From Utah as well!! Haha was wondering if it was doable my job is part time and this kind of confirmed it
Awesome man! Fellow Utah guy. Yeah it's definitely possible.
Love your video. Thanks for sharing
Hey there,
I'm currently working full-time as a Product Owner, and I've recently accepted a position as a Full Stack Developer. I'm concerned about managing both roles, especially since the Product Owner position requires me to relocate to the site. Do you have any advice on how to handle this situation?
Thank you.
What products were you designing? I was a product owner/manger in the LA area making $110k/yr from 2016-2019 (never got a raise) for a major company. Until this week, since then have been making $175k/yr as a software consultant (finally got a raise this week, putting me at $192k), and I'm in my late 30s.
I finished two highly technical bachelor degrees in parallel, from two different schools, in two different fields, all while maintaining a full-time career managing multi-million dollar projects for the government.Then immediately went into completing an M.S. in Engineering (which I started the same time I relocated and started a completely new career in a completely different industry; the product owner role I mentioned earlier). Now, I owe $88k in student loans, which was AFTER I ran out of GI Bill and got military discounts on tuition. I guess I should've forgone finishing those degrees and just got another job (well, technically I also had another job, as I was teaching engineering and emergency medicine at the collegiate level.) I guess I'm just working for the wrong organizations or something...🤷♂
Impressive work ethic. Great job man!
Experience > education once you have bachelor's
Hey Jake, love the last bit of the video with Arnold. That being said, I’m going to go ahead and take a risk myself and ask if I could hop on a call/make an interview video with you? (Only if you have time in between your two jobs and UA-cam of course haha)
How did one of them find out?
I told my friend I got the new job and he told his boss, who is close with my boss at the old company.
@@JakeFerrin OMG...are you still friends.
Also, do you regret not having both jobs anymore? I mean, have you met your savings target?
@@abioladavis7888 Yes, still friends haha. It wasn't a big deal. They were really cool about it when they found out. I talked more about it in this other video ua-cam.com/video/rynO-LpYvyI/v-deo.html
@@abioladavis7888 I do miss the extra income but I was so busy. It's nice to have my life back. And yeah we met our savings target. My goal was to do it until the end of the year (8 months).
@@JakeFerrin Thanks for the reply.
How did they find out?
Great video
I make $50k or less. Damn I need a tech job. Should donebit earlier. I have 7 years of computer science classes from 1997-2006.
I used to work 85 hours a week is seriously dangerous and high end kitchens (simultaneously). This ain't jack. I could easily do 120 hours and wish I had rhat much work. Even 60 would be better. I am stuck and looking
I was just thinking someone out there must be working two jobs remotely and it was you
So did you quit the OG gig or the 2nd gig?
I quit the second job
I felt it when you said Highest paid product manager lol. I did the same recently I am one of the highest-paid sysadmins right now making 280K a year, I would say its not that bad.
What tools do you use when working multiple jobs. For example, if you have multiple emails and slacks channels, clickups accpunts ext ..
Great video, any input about one employer finding out?
Did you get any time to work on side projects/hustles while working 2 jobs?
No not at all. That was the worst part.
I currently have one job and want a second job, i don't know how to tell the manager i have a main job in the interview, any ideas ?
I think the only way would be to downplay the existing job. It only takes a couple hours per week, I’m planning on working nights and weekends etc. But unless this second company is desperate they probably won’t be ok with it.
you dont tell them
Cash you got is $260k... then you adjust for cost of living.
4:20 mann that's my plan right now haha
How did you spend time with your family?
Can you please recommend a list of books that would give us the same kind of mine said you’ve come to?
Even overload with 2 jobs u make time 2 reply 2 so many comments, it shows ur time management effeciencie
my FAANG colleagues with that title have a higher TC. Do some research and they are remote as well.
How did the 1 job find out
Heyy
Im not understand. Please help me
Is a mom in IT with kids can do that???
How do you get around background checks? If you decide to leave a job and they do a check and find you worked two jobs at once, that could be an issue if they are able to
contact that employer.
Why would it be an issue? I have worked multiple jobs simultaneously. Even when I list them on my resume, it shows overlapping dates. I don't try to hide it
they dont get offended that you worked more than one full time job at a time? I feel like they will look down on that. I know some people just put a primary job on their resume and leave the others out since they most likely will not turn up unless you tell them on the application
Curious how you manage PI planning for two different companies simultaneously ?
What do you do for a living?
UX (user experience) design. I design apps and websites.
@@JakeFerrin very good
Get urself a man like this
Nah. You’re not the highest paid adjusted for inflation. But only because someone is doing it from Bali or Thailand. 😄 great work.
Very true
What tech jobs would you recommend
UX design, front end developer, product manager. These are all tech jobs you could in under a year with the right bootcamps and online courses.
@@JakeFerrin I´ve heard that UX design involves a lot of meetings and presentations, do you think that is still manageable to get 2 jobs in this field at the same time? or is web development a better option?
Gratz
"In the world" 😅😅😅😅😅🔥🔥
To get 60k I’d recommend buying wigger coin
Hey Jake,
My name is Jeff and I recently came across your channel and love the grind/ and the content so far. I am 28 years old and starting my journey in tech and wanted to know if i could pick your brain. I know that a youtube comment from a random faceless avatar is kind of weird and probably not exactly how i should go about asking for some guidance but here we are haha.
I sent you a request on IG, if the request isn't something you want to do or you dont have time for it, i understand. I will still watch your videos and subscribe.
Either way, thanks for readi g my comment.
-Jeff
But when do you meet your family? When you exercise? When you see your friends? Money isn't worth forgetting all the valuable things you have in your life. Even though it's just a short period of your life. I just can't watch this money-driven lifestyle, complete bs
I could not watch the rest of this video after your 50 second cocky self-absorbed introduction. Hope the rest of your video brought value to others.
It was meant to be sarcastic. Like, I’m recognizing 260k still isn’t that much. Sorry the joke didn’t land lol
@@JakeFerrin it was hilarious! Kept me watching definitely
Barf
Money is great, but the physical and mental workload is super tough to manage. Kudos for making it 8 months.
Completely agree. It's a lot to handle.
That’s wild, I’ve been doing that for 6 months as an analyst and interface tester. It’s been great money and a fun experience, work wise it’s not too bad just meetings need to be juggled accordingly.
That's awesome glad you're enjoying it. Yeah meetings seem to be the biggest issue.
Are you an experienced tester or an entry level position?
@@5260lalaw I’ve attained some experience but I wasn’t prior to this gig, my experience was in HL7 implementations.
What about background check?v
@@rishangprashnani4386 They conducted one but I think it was for criminal history only, not sure to be honest
Thanks for your insight! I've been contemplating getting a part-time job in addition to a full-time remote job. Now, i'm thinking.. what about two full-time remote jobs? With time management and a clear goal in mind, I think its totally worth it and do-able!
It’s definitely do-able!
I'm in the process of making this happen. I have a final interview next week, but I also had a panic attack last night thinking about juggling everything. This video gave me hope.
It'll be a challenge but it's totally possible. Good luck!
@@JakeFerrin Thanks so much! I already have a few part-time gigs and I've always had multiple jobs since I was 14 (ha!), so I'm thinking it will be similar to that. I think I was more scared of getting found out! But hey, companies should just pay enough for us to not have to think about this, right?! Thanks for the Inspo!
@@missmoe427 hey how’s it going 4 weeks later? Love hearing success stories!
@@Mclovinsit omg! Thanks for checking in! I actually decided to quit my current position and just take the new one that I was offered! I realized I just needed to shed some dead weight and start my life anew!
Are you considering 2 remote positions idea?
@@missmoe427 definitely considering it, glad to hear it worked out in a good way though. Starting a better job is still a big positive! My current data analyst job is pretty slow so I’ve been looking into it. Could I ask how many years of experience you had before thinking about being over employed? Im fresh out of college but got lucky on my job being so slow haha.
I don't know if you worked two jobs when we worked together, but I had no idea! you were always quick to get me designs when I needed. Bravo!!
So I did this for a year as an IT product manager. It kind of happen the same I applied for a job happen to get it but I liked my other job but I said I would try it out etc my salary was around 279,00 with both jobs and I did it a little over year onlybreason I stopped was cause one job wanted to go to a hybrid schedule. I became debt free , brought a house etc I just wish I bulked up more in my 401 k n savings I recommend it but only for contract jobs
Which companies im curious?
I just received a second offer which puts me well over 100k. I asked myself the same question, “why quit”? It’s all about negotiating the right salary, with no time constraints. It’s better to have assignment-based salary positions than logged time hours. It’s a great hustle but if not done right you could burn out. Good stuff though!!
assignment based is key!!
Great video. I also found this out years ago when I wanted to start trading and go to school while working full-time. I sort of eased into it. However, these days I work full-time as a Software Engineer, I am taking 4 CS classes at a University and run a successful small hedge fund. I also exercise and eat healthy everyday, get plenty of sleep. With all that said, I am super efficient with my time and sometimes downright rude to people who want to waste it. You would think there is no way I could do this but...I just got a promotion at my job with a bonus, I currently have a 4.0 and about to graduate from school and my hedge fund made 172% profit last year. I totally agree that Parkinson's law is a thing!
Yeah no offense but that seems a bit toooo good 😑
@Racmag I'm into CS as well (currently in university), but I ended up doing a Finance Internship for a bank's investment firm. I'm still pursuing CS, because I value it, but I am seriously considering leveraging some potential connections to start one someday. Do you have any advice in regards to that business?
@@Izaz-ke7dt You don't need to work at an investment firm to start a business. The reason is because (assuming you are even make it to the head investment side). They all use commercial strategies that won't work on the retail side. I'd advise you to start paper trading and get profitable (that takes many years and lots of learning)
wtf
That's amazing and inspiring! Helps put things in perspective when I'm procrastinating haha.
This guy has 2 I can’t even find 1 lol. Good job man, keep it up!!
Money is great, but the physical and mental workload is super tough to manage. Kudos for making it 8 months.
Jake- Question: How did you fill out the tax form when you have a two jobs? I believe W4 form specifically asks for if you have a second job, right? So employer wouldn’t know?
I start my 2nd remote job in a few weeks
Thanks Jake for your insight.
1. On a scale from 1 to 10 (1 no stress, 10 extreme stress), what would you rate your stress level when doing these 2 jobs?
2. Burnout level on scale 1-10?
3. How many hours a night were you able to get on average?
Stress level between 6 and 10. Design work goes in waves so the stress level depended on how busy I was. Burnout was about the same. I got plenty of sleep, never needed to stay up super late to work, but I did have to work after from like 7:00-11:00 some nights when I would rather be with my family.
@@JakeFerrin damn, I'm regularly up until 2am working on a mixture of my own business and my primary job (which pulls in less than $200k, and I "only" have the one job). For the past 20+ years, basically since high school, I've gotten about 4-5 hours of sleep per night, never much more than that, usually less.
such an interesting story. And so cool that tech is a field where you have enough time with your job to work two jobs
I'm thinking of getting a second job. I already have a full time job as a fraud analyst and am thinking of becoming a virtual assistant since I'm working at home.
Cool! I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. I also have two remote jobs. I am in the beginning journey. Thank you for your insight.
Work Two jobs.... buy rental properties 🤫
so at the end you stayed with your old job or new job?
Stayed with the old job
@@JakeFerrin I see, did the old job gave you some good raise to keep you? Or they already paid you pretty well?
@@BEASTNYC no I didn't get a raise. The old job even paid less than the new one. I kept the old one because it was so easy and allowed me to work on more stuff on the side like the UA-cam channel.
@@JakeFerrin thanks mate. Take care!
I have two questions:
- What about meetings? Were there ever conflicts between the two jobs?
- Did you tell the new employer that you were going to quit the other?
Meetings are a struggle. I talk about it in my Q&A video on two jobs (linked below). I had conflicting meetings and tried to attend both with my video off and it was a nightmare. I started bailing/rescheduling if I had conflicting meetings. I never told them outright that I was going to quit. They just assumed I would since that's what everyone does lol ua-cam.com/video/rynO-LpYvyI/v-deo.html&lc=Ugw8m8SAmFrJYRiRdkR4AaABAg
two different airpods one connected to your phone the other to your laptop. Easy… Just manage mute and unmute ontime and correctly.
@@azzangoeting7691 not a bad idea. The headphones could be a game changer because theres no risk of one meeting hearing the other.
@@azzangoeting7691 I did something like that once when I was working full time and I was also taking a full-time bootcamp. I had conflicting meetings where I had to actively share and talk. Two computers, 1 air pod in my ear, and the other was on speaker low volume. I had to manage mute, volume, and camera throughout the meetings. It was stressful, but doable. But I wouldn't recommend it for strategic planning meetings, only like status report type meetings.
@@KonniWilson Valid point yea the approach I shared only works for standup type of meetings not for meetings that you need to lead or where an involved conversation is required, for those I would really try to hold those type of meetings on a dedicated time slot so that you can give it your full focus.
Change thumbnail to “highest paid product designer in world” and this video will fly
How did the one company find out about the multiple jobs?
Hey I just posted a video answering your question, how the one company found out. Take a look if you’re interested. And thanks for the question! ua-cam.com/video/luBR_QK7z5E/v-deo.html
I’m looking to do this. I am working completely remote now and I am in the process of getting another one. I’m nervous. But I know I can do this. It would be so wonderful for my family.
Haha I love your video! I wish I thought of this a long time ago but just realized why can I just work a 2nd remote job since it’s not really busy? And it took me 4 months to think of it. I’m so mad. But working on getting a 2nd one now. Thanks
Hi Jake. Thanks for sharing your history in a super honest way. I have one question, how did you manage the background check for your second job? Did you tell your second job company to not contact your current company back then?
Thank you so much for this video. I got an offer from two tech companies that are remote. I’m scared but excited lol
So cool! It's stressful but whats the worst that could happen haha Good luck!
Take both, be efficient, use sundays if needed or early mornings.
The only question I have that I would like answered is your schedule. I don’t mind that you did that, but what was your scheduling and hours.
Hey, am 22, from italy, I work in a warehouse and it does not give me satisfaction, you go there you work then come back home and nothing for 1200/1300 EUR in a month and I want to change can you suggest me how to start a path similar to yours or something else? what do you think about UX designer's of COURSERA courses in 6 months you became ux designer.
Hey JOBAN. I would definitely recommend looking into UX. It’s getting more and more crowded but it doesn’t take a lot to stand out.
I don’t know about the coursera courses. They’re probably a good place to start. Google has a free UX certification you can earn as well that would help you get started. Good luck!
Dude look Luke Mitchell from Blindspot and Chicago Med
How do you manage the 2nd, 3rd, 4th job calling your current job for employment verification without raising suspicion?
How did you handle background checks when taking up a 2nd job ? That’s the part that scares me..
Did you have any problems with the fact that you only had one company on linkedin as a current place of job? How did you solve the problem with calls? calls from one company could overlap with calls from another
You're basement looks really nice and neat! It must be great to get some work done there. Great video!
Plot twist. Most tech people are actually doing this secretly.
Actually I know a person who is doing this and moved to Dubai🌴, none of his higher management knows.
"most"
source: the voices in your head
I made a video answering some questions about the two job thing. Cheers 🍻 ua-cam.com/video/rynO-LpYvyI/v-deo.html
could you do a video on how to not get caught from either companies doing 2 jobs?
Once your other job found out about your other role how did you move forward with management? Did you ever discuss it with them/ do you have any tips and tricks about communicating with your leaders about your other job?
I am currently working 4 remote jobs and I told the managers in two of them (where I had the trust). I simply came up to them and said "look, I have another offer that I really want to take and I also dont want to leave working for you". If they get the feeling that you will still treat them as your main job and have enough trust that you submit your work on time then it is great. It is actually even more than that.....not having to lie why you cannot make it to the meeting or just simply not be stressed about them finding out is great.
You must be crazy busy with 4 jobs... Not having to hide anything would have taken away a lot of the stress. That's definitely the way to go.
@@JakeFerrin Well I made an agreement with myself that I will be done with all the work by 4 pm every day. That leaves you with prioritizing and managing to do every job for 2 hours a day. However, I often take the easiest tasks and finish them over weekends just cause I know it will take away lot of stress from regular days.
This is only possible when you observe your contracts and actually fire employers/clients who want way too much work and replace them with ones which are slow paced. I found that huge corporates usually are more slow paced.
@Wencer Calzado I have a full time job and I am looking for a side job in UI/UX Design. Any tips? Im also in Dominican Republic.
if i could pay you a percentage of my future monthly salary , would you do me a favor of finding me a remote job ?
process should be as joyful as the reward
Great video Jake.. just subscribed
I make $13 per hour before tax working 40 hours per week on my feet per week.
I can do better but I don't know which direction to go. I'm 39.
Subbed: Because of the basement tour fun
Thanks for the sub!
Sounds like tough work... Keep searching, there are better options out there.
Would you recommend getting a second job in IT when you've only been working your main Cybersecurity job for under 2 months?
Depends on how bad you want to keep that job. I was willing to walk away from both companies if things went south. I wouldn't have taken the risk if I really needed one of the jobs.
You make your own life. No one will help you unless you take you own calculated risks. Great video
Enjoyed this video. You gave me hope 😊. Glad I found your channel.
Can you make a video explaining the pathways to becoming a product designer? Is an industrial design degree alright?
Industrial design might help to start understanding design but it's less direct. The most direct degree for UX is a human computer interaction degree (HCI). Graphic design would help too. I never got a degree though. Getting a design job is all about your work you can show. I made this video on how to get into UX: ua-cam.com/video/NQSgmi0CH6M/v-deo.html
so 230 a year but not for a year :)
this is super true!
Did you work on c2c or w2
How was the training part of it?
It's so hard to do this in the UK because of the PAYE tax system your employer is aware of your other income streams in order to assign your tax bracket.
You are correct but only the payroll see this and surely they are not able to discuss with others on your income as that would be illegal. I have had simultaneous 2 jobs in UK without any problem, just make sure there’s nothing in your contract not allowing it.
@@reacekaines1947 Thank you
Do it while you're young I don't blame you just make sure to either save or invest the money
This is awesome! So happy for you! I'm so so so tempted to follow your lead...
It’s not easy but the double paycheck is pretty nice!
Looking for a home job for my wife who’s not happy with her current day job. Please help. A new subscriber
Look up "Google Certification Courses". They offer free online courses on a few jobs that could all be done remotely: UX design, digital marketing, data analytics, project management. Then from there you can decide what interests you the most. Good luck!
@@JakeFerrin thanks man appreciate,; she got an offer on project management but on training now
Just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it! Keep up the good work 😊