In his book Aussie Grit. Mark Webber said that his first visit to the Minardi Factory in Faenza was so small an F3000 team would barely be able to run out of it. So he realised just how amazing it was this team had survived as long as it had with so little resources.
To add to the M189 5th+6th at Silverstone, that was very important as the previous race Onyx had finished P5 in France, meaning they would have been out of pre-qualifying for the rest of the year, at Minardi's expense, but Minardi's 3 points took them out of pre-qualifying and Onyx back in, which would have been a nightmare for the team. Edit: This was the very next round after France that it happened, and due to the rules of it being halfway when teams in pre-qualifying could get out based on results (Brabham, Dallara & Rial did, and Larrousse took their place), and it wasn't a given to get out of the Friday morning sessions, Martin Brundle failed to pre-qualify twice, as teams would always use the extreme soft compound to try and make the qualifying proper on Saturday.
Honestly, the fact that fucking Rial didn't needed to pre-qualifying instead of Onyx is a joke itself, especially when you realize how uncompetetive and unprofessional was the German team in that season...
@@Altern8One yeah that was criminal indeed. Pure reliability and a race of attrition got Danner 4th at Phoenix from dead last on the grid. In fact Rial only qualified one more time all season after Silverstone, and were always 29th or 30th for the remainder of the year. But such was luck. It's kind of a shame that Rial had such a poor 2nd year, in 88 with the ARC-1 the car was actually pretty good in the hands of de Cesaris, he should have scored many more points than the 3 he got. Gustav Brunner brought a lot of the designs for that car from the 1987 Ferrari (so the Rial was dubbed the 'Blue Ferrari'). Rial's problem was the volatile team principal Gunther Schmid, Brunner left the team midway through 1988 as they failed to pay him, and then they never updated the ARC-2 in '89, but Schmid never listened to his drivers, he used to do the car setups himself instead of them, which is insane when you think about it. There's some really fascinating teams from that period of F1 1983-92-ish, nowadays it's so hard to imagine given how 'clean and professional' the whole circus is.
@cribbe in 88 they also had a stupidly small fuel tank, which often led to De Cesaris not finishing. This was worst at the Canadian GP when Andrea was running 3rd when he ran out of fuel.
I've always been a Minardi fan, also because I live a few kilometres from the factory in Faenza. I've always thought that, instead of doing "Toro Rosso", "Alpha Tauri" or "Racing Bulls", Red Bull should make a deal with Giancarlo Minardi himself and run under the original name and colours: in my opinion, the amount of merchandise they would sell would be insane, along with all the buzz and nostalgia thing. What do u think?
Beautiful video, being Italian I am very happy that he made a video on the Minardi, if in 91 'the Minardi had had a change like the Ferrari one it would have made sparks as Martini and Morbidelli often retired for the change, if the team had had more luck who knows where it would be now
You gave several ‘B’ spec cars their own listings but not the M189B, M191B or M193B. The M02 had very good aero and was the first F1 car to run with a titanium gearbox but it was let down by its 1998-era motor which was underpowered and overweight. A good list overall.
@@jamiecloughgaming25387 No, it was part of the terrible aggregate qualifying set up where each driver sets a single lap on the Friday and the Saturday and a combination of the two laps set the grid. Thankfully dropped after half a year as it was dumb.
They would have been a lot more successful if the engine deals didn't always seem to fall apart sadly. They always designed tidy cars which made the most of what they had.
I think it’s a myth the ps04b had anything to do with the arrows a23. It’s clearly an evolution of the ps03. A terrible car. The arrows was far superior, able to score points on pace alone the previous year.
Ranking the Minardis must be and extreamly difficult task... Normally they were always at the back. Dificult to notice how one is slighty faster than the other.
Most amazing thing of all is how they managed to stay afloat being just about dead last every season for 20 years!
*Minardi - The Peoples Team*
In his book Aussie Grit. Mark Webber said that his first visit to the Minardi Factory in Faenza was so small an F3000 team would barely be able to run out of it. So he realised just how amazing it was this team had survived as long as it had with so little resources.
To me, they have some of the best looking liveries especially during the late 80's to early 90's.
The '97 Minardi is a thing of beauty
That M191 looks too good. The aesthetically pleasing shape and the black and yellow works really well
Always thought it was black, but a friend of mine who lives in Faenza told me that it's actually a dark, very dark blue!
Ah yes minardi: the Nico hulkenberg of f1 teams, almost taking a podium, but only having it just out of reach
Tbf, Minardi never had a "podium capable" car... Where Hulkemberg had plenty.
To add to the M189 5th+6th at Silverstone, that was very important as the previous race Onyx had finished P5 in France, meaning they would have been out of pre-qualifying for the rest of the year, at Minardi's expense, but Minardi's 3 points took them out of pre-qualifying and Onyx back in, which would have been a nightmare for the team.
Edit: This was the very next round after France that it happened, and due to the rules of it being halfway when teams in pre-qualifying could get out based on results (Brabham, Dallara & Rial did, and Larrousse took their place), and it wasn't a given to get out of the Friday morning sessions, Martin Brundle failed to pre-qualify twice, as teams would always use the extreme soft compound to try and make the qualifying proper on Saturday.
Honestly, the fact that fucking Rial didn't needed to pre-qualifying instead of Onyx is a joke itself, especially when you realize how uncompetetive and unprofessional was the German team in that season...
@@Altern8One yeah that was criminal indeed. Pure reliability and a race of attrition got Danner 4th at Phoenix from dead last on the grid. In fact Rial only qualified one more time all season after Silverstone, and were always 29th or 30th for the remainder of the year. But such was luck. It's kind of a shame that Rial had such a poor 2nd year, in 88 with the ARC-1 the car was actually pretty good in the hands of de Cesaris, he should have scored many more points than the 3 he got. Gustav Brunner brought a lot of the designs for that car from the 1987 Ferrari (so the Rial was dubbed the 'Blue Ferrari'). Rial's problem was the volatile team principal Gunther Schmid, Brunner left the team midway through 1988 as they failed to pay him, and then they never updated the ARC-2 in '89, but Schmid never listened to his drivers, he used to do the car setups himself instead of them, which is insane when you think about it. There's some really fascinating teams from that period of F1 1983-92-ish, nowadays it's so hard to imagine given how 'clean and professional' the whole circus is.
@cribbe in 88 they also had a stupidly small fuel tank, which often led to De Cesaris not finishing. This was worst at the Canadian GP when Andrea was running 3rd when he ran out of fuel.
@@PEPSIMaxMusic that's right, though Gustav Brunner redesigned the car to have a larger tank from the halfway point of the season
One of the best F1 channel on YT that deserves more attention! Thanks Peter!
I've always been a Minardi fan, also because I live a few kilometres from the factory in Faenza. I've always thought that, instead of doing "Toro Rosso", "Alpha Tauri" or "Racing Bulls", Red Bull should make a deal with Giancarlo Minardi himself and run under the original name and colours: in my opinion, the amount of merchandise they would sell would be insane, along with all the buzz and nostalgia thing. What do u think?
Beautiful video, being Italian I am very happy that he made a video on the Minardi, if in 91 'the Minardi had had a change like the Ferrari one it would have made sparks as Martini and Morbidelli often retired for the change, if the team had had more luck who knows where it would be now
I absolutely adored the livery from 2000. Was sad to see it go.
You gave several ‘B’ spec cars their own listings but not the M189B, M191B or M193B.
The M02 had very good aero and was the first F1 car to run with a titanium gearbox but it was let down by its 1998-era motor which was underpowered and overweight.
A good list overall.
It's a shame that this channel doesn"t have more support
Indeed it is! The UA-cam algorithm is not pulling its weight as far as I'm concerned
Oh, the PS04B. Everytime I see that car, I feel prouder of my country lol.
I thought the 91 would come out on top but u make a good case😆👍
Jos Verstappen did achieve a Fastest Lap during training for the '03 French GP (i believe).
Thank you i also want to mention it haha indeed!!
He mentioned the qualifying, fastest lap is only ever counted from the race.
That was a practice session, but it wasn't representative, as it was very wet.
@@jamiecloughgaming25387 No, it was part of the terrible aggregate qualifying set up where each driver sets a single lap on the Friday and the Saturday and a combination of the two laps set the grid. Thankfully dropped after half a year as it was dumb.
They would have been a lot more successful if the engine deals didn't always seem to fall apart sadly.
They always designed tidy cars which made the most of what they had.
Looks alone, my favourite is 1991 car lovely. Most sentimental though is the P.S.01 thanks to F1 2001.
The description is not correct! "Jos the boss" took the pole position at french gp 2003.
There literal fortunes would be completely different if the current point scheme was in use in the late 80s to early 90s.
The 1994 cars were among the most beautiful on the grid - no complaints from me here
The 99 and 2000 car always the best
If you also take the engine sound into account, the list would look completely different. M192 up front, maybe M191. 🤩
Forever Minardi!
Formula 1 team in Italy familiar to Japan
I like M189, M195 and M192
The M190 and M02 should be much higher up the list than those PS shitbox cars from 2002-05 which were just rehashes of the 2001 car.
This guys lists never make sense.
@@timyo6288 Lmao!
They surely have completed the most seasons without scoring a point, right?
I would guess Osella was worse, but just a guess.
Well they get pole with Jos Verstappen
I think it’s a myth the ps04b had anything to do with the arrows a23. It’s clearly an evolution of the ps03. A terrible car. The arrows was far superior, able to score points on pace alone the previous year.
Ranking the Minardis must be and extreamly difficult task... Normally they were always at the back. Dificult to notice how one is slighty faster than the other.
Actually there were times they were midfielder's, such as 1993.
remove the annyong background music. thats not relaxing and hurts while listen to the storys
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is like comparing trashcans to dumbster