Anthony Mackie once during the shoot went nuts because they were basically working without a script. This is the kind of idiots that we're dealing with. So I'm not shocked they are doing yet another reshoot.
Doing more reshoots increases the budget, and with that reduces the possibility of making profit in the box office cause lets be real, even if the movie title says “captain america” its not chris evans, its not dr doom, its not spiderman, its not wolverine either. This was never going to be a billion dollar box office movie. They are fucking it up
Tyrone, Anthony said that Wakanda gave him an Iron Man type suit to give him the advantage he doesn’t have without the serum. He is now literally Black Iron Captain America
I didn't know this but it actually makes it worse. He's now basically War-Machine. I've always wondered why Tony Stark just doesn't give all the Avengers an Iron-Man suit, that would've made their battles so much easier.
Few? Endgame, Brave New World. Read the titles of the movies they are telling u whats going on. We are in the endgane,we are living in a new world now. New World Order to be exact. If you think these are random titles they just came up with they are not.
I just think someone whose historically been a terrorist for hydra would never be allowed to be captain America by the US government, a story about that would be interesting though
@RealogOnlyBrodie the thing is he starts out as a terrorist/ brainwashed assassin in the comics as well yet hes still becomes cap after Steve not to mention all the crimes black widow has done which should be public knowledge since she had to revel her assassin history to the world after hydra corrupted shield.
Bucky would of been a great replacement instead for sure but let's not forget cause he was previously brain washed he did very bad things as well too and was looked at a terrorist for it so that's why Steve gave the shield to Sam instead of his more closet friend Bucky
Oh you better believe you won't get one... The test audience will be a plethora of pig nosed septum piercings and a myriad of multicoloured hair in a sea of side shaved Hitler hairdos and a sprinkling of jaguar they/ them Teletubbies because Disney can't help themselves... They get more money from certain massive ESG conglomerates than they lose from identity politics. It's not going to change anytime soon
Further reshoots at this point is just throwing money away now - they will never make their money back on this movie, even if it is a moderate success.
@ Thank you, your highness. I felt like this was definitely an inspired moment. I’m likewise excited for “Harry Potter (He/Him) & the Sorcerer’s (He/Him) Stone.”
They should have Bruce banner turn into rainbow she hulk so they can have him "transition" on screen too... Major identity points!!! Nope I thought about it. He'd never be allowed to turn back because that would be detransitioning and that is apparently not allowed
Honestly I don’t want a black cap or a white guy cap or an Asian cap or any other replacement. If you kill a character have the balls to leave him dead any body who takes on the mantle after you kill the original is destined to fail. Give it a break and maybe recast it in a few years if you must beat a dead horse
For many in society, even though he was under mind control Their vision of Bucky is of a assassin who killed a lot of world leaders… and Sam is a decorated military man so for the mcu version, it actually does make more sense for Sam to have the mantle over Bucky
Nobody wanted this anyway. Falcon was fine on his own. He should’ve never been made Captain America in the comic books. If anything, Bucky should’ve been the one being Captain America.
Brownie points? Well that takes on a different meaning now. Captain should never have become preachy but here we are and he always looks like he ready to start preaching in every scene
Sam needs to somehow get the super soldier serum, otherwise some of these fights with individuals like the hulk won't seem out of the realm of reality. Cause if Red Hulk hits that shield, whatever is behind it is dust & destroyed.
Yeah for some reason they think just because the shield is indestructible it means that it can be hit by multiple tons of pressure and the person on the other hand feels non of it.
I’ve never been impressed with his acting, despite liking the character and trailer. Hearing things like “there’s no chemistry” means that throwing millions at more CGI at this point won’t help lol. I know they want the action to be more punchy but if reports are basically, “The lead isn’t very strong,” then editing can only help so much
It has nothing to do with DEI, and more to do with the source material. In the comics it makes perfect sense that Falcon takes over. He had been Cap's partner for years, a long time Avenger, and had never been a Russian agent, he was the natural choice. In the films Cap has a deeper friendship with Bucky so he's the natural choice. Sometimes chemistry of actors in an adaptation can change perceptions, like when people started shipping Harry and Hermoine due to the films.
If you keep increasing the cost of the movie then you are just increasing the amount of money you have to make. They should just cut their losses because they arent making it back.
I was never excited for this movie. I'm skipping it. Too many plot holes. I'll say it again. Sam Wilson without the Super Serum is just a man. The Red Hulk can kill Sam Wilson with a single fart. Dead serious.
If Bucky was Cap, it would be Flawless as he understands Steve’s Beliefs and how the World Nowadays Works better than Anyone, something Sam fails to understand
I have the extreme lowest of expectations when it’s a Hollywood, Disney, Mainstream movie. I have seen so many horrible movies the past 6 years. I don’t watch them until I’m absolutely board. I have zero trust these companies have the best writers and actors/actresses for the job.
i dont have a problem with him becomming captain america...but also lets be honest he has a nice suit to fly..but he dosnt have the power steve rogers had..so him fighting the red hulk would be like ..hulk smashing a fly......makes no sense to me...this is where they start to loose me with the new movies
They're doing the same thing I do with my selfies, I can take 50 of them and they're still going to come out ugly and awkward and not going to work out.
A lot of people think the MCU changed course because Deadpool & Wolverine came out, but they still have soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many projects that were stuck in production hell since before Deadpool & Wolverine even started. We won't be getting the results of the alleged changes in leadership for another 5* years or so. These reshoots come as no surprise to me
It was just a dumb choice. All they had to do was build on Falcon as a hero not 'mantle swap' him. Look at the fight scene for Civil war when he was taking out the men. Look how he used his wings as a shield there's literally no need for cap's shield and it doesn't suit his power set as he'd be darting around. They should have given him the new suit and when his wings close to form the shield have it show a star symbol to rep cap but still keep his falcon name and have Bucky replacing cap where they work as a duo. People would get accustomed to them as a team and they could help each others weaknesses and have great back and forth banter.
I quite like Sam as Cap. For me it makes sense in universe too, Sam has the right heart and could you imagine the backlash if they gave the Cap to Bucky them the world found out what he did as Winter Soldier. Superheroes & government would loose all credibility in the eyes of the public. Which, could of lead to an interesting story to be fair 🤣🤷🏻♂️ Winter Solider & Falcon should of been about Sam getting some sort of serum. Maybe as torture or a sacrifice he takes some incomplete serum that fucks him up, Bucky has to take him to Wakanda where with their medicine and maybe even the black panther flower they cure him but he’s left with the effects of the SSS.
Bucky should not have been the replacement for Steve Rogers. His past is too murky with all of the assignations he has done under the Soviet mindset control. It lessons what the symbol of Captain America stands for.
As a black man, I will never accept Falcon as Captain America. Falcon was a original character that I like, but Marvel decided to give him sloppy 2nds and hand me down superhero name. Sorry, but I reject lazy sloppy 2nds and hand me downs
Trailers so far looked decent but I guess the final product was really bad and unwatchable so they had to reshoot it yet again wow, I hope the version we all get to see will at least be okay.
Bucky should have been the next Captain America but no way DEIsney was going to give the shield to a white man over a black man, even if all logic and the narrative was pointing obviously in that direction
A movie shouldn’t take years to film. Anthony Mackie needs to get paid more. His paycheck is going to be about 50 million dollars with all the work they’re making him do.
I work for Marvel Studios, the Reshoots took place earlier this year. This rumor of another round of reshoots is completely false. The film could not be edited correctly without the previous reshoots and it only took 22 days of re-filming (which if you are aware of how film schedules work, was like 4/5 scenes out of over 300). Now, a lot of people WANT this film to be reshot because they did not like the trailer. That is not going to happen. They may have some ADR recording left to do in the studio, but the budget is gone and won’t be extended.
My guess and I do say guess is they made a script that would have made more sense if the election in real life went a different direction but after the results need to recalibrate. Just a guess
Isn't it funny how Harrison Ford, who's usually a very abrasive person and says what's on his mind, regardless of people's feelings, decided to back Harris publically and suddenly he's in the MCU. It's almost as if he was rewarded because of it or, get this, ORDERED to do it.
If they reshoot it enough times they get a coupon for a free beverage.
😂
They could have made 3 movies at this point.
And they did
MCU ended with End Game.
Indeed
Nah, with Infinity War. Shouldve had Thanos win.
@@stefanomega5873/ Endgame was "Trash", I'll put ("Civil war") over that any day!!
I enjoyed specials and WV
@@Blazeyatesi don’t think endgame was bad but i love civil war too.
Nothing against Sam, but Bucky was the obvious choice to replace Cap. Disney screwed up bad.
Lol yeah they both carried the mantle at one point in their career @karlarvidson9616
that dosent make sense even from a cinematic view
@@patrolpilot3756 Exactly Bucky should have gotten the Shield. siiigghhhh
@@barrysmith4610 He's white. Why would they do that?
Because the producers need a Token Black Guy for the frontline formation to replace BP.
Anthony Mackie once during the shoot went nuts because they were basically working without a script. This is the kind of idiots that we're dealing with. So I'm not shocked they are doing yet another reshoot.
Test screen feedback: "Do Better!"
Do Better Writers!!
Falcon is Falcon.
End of story.
Black Falcon
Yes , Joaquin Torres is Falcon in comics and now MCU .
I mean he still has the wings
@@jasonlewis9240 same in the comics , He's a Captain America that can fly lol
“Math is math!” -Mr. Incredible
Doing more reshoots increases the budget, and with that reduces the possibility of making profit in the box office cause lets be real, even if the movie title says “captain america” its not chris evans, its not dr doom, its not spiderman, its not wolverine either. This was never going to be a billion dollar box office movie. They are fucking it up
Cosmic Wonder still a bit too blue eyed when it comes to Marvel
What is that supposed to mean
@@Terrox_it means cosmic wonder is a shill for Disney Marvel
@@Terrox_ Being blue-eyed means to be naive. He's giving Disney too much leniency
Tyrone, Anthony said that Wakanda gave him an Iron Man type suit to give him the advantage he doesn’t have without the serum. He is now literally Black Iron Captain America
I didn't know this but it actually makes it worse. He's now basically War-Machine. I've always wondered why Tony Stark just doesn't give all the Avengers an Iron-Man suit, that would've made their battles so much easier.
Millennial Liberal writers and directors really did a number on the MCU. I expect the next few films to be the same.
Few? Endgame, Brave New World. Read the titles of the movies they are telling u whats going on. We are in the endgane,we are living in a new world now. New World Order to be exact. If you think these are random titles they just came up with they are not.
Bingo!!! 💯
Thunderbolts had potential
Maybe it’ll al stop now with Trump being president again😂😂
@@jasonlewis9240how will Trump affect bad writing in Marvel movies bro 😅😅
I hope DC is learning what not to do from marvel
Pffffff nope!!!!!
@@pitouayato2486peacemaker,the batman and penguing would say other wise
Hahaha learn? Hahahaha. You must be new here
so far i’m happy i’m a marvel fan and not a dc fan
@@yomarco_8891 the flash, aqua man, blue beetle, suicide squad (stretching it) would say otherwise 🫡
At this point I just wanna see the original cut of the film 😂
Same but with that cancelled bat girl tv show
*Steve should have passed the shield to Bucky then it would have meant so much more when Bucky passed it on to Sam*
I just think someone whose historically been a terrorist for hydra would never be allowed to be captain America by the US government, a story about that would be interesting though
It would make sense. When he caught that Shield in Winter Soldier, and his redemptive arc - it would make sense.
@RealogOnlyBrodie the thing is he starts out as a terrorist/ brainwashed assassin in the comics as well yet hes still becomes cap after Steve not to mention all the crimes black widow has done which should be public knowledge since she had to revel her assassin history to the world after hydra corrupted shield.
Winter soldier was an assassin and killed a lot of people along with Tony’s parents. Black widow put all of hydras secrets online so everybody knows.
Bucky would of been a great replacement instead for sure but let's not forget cause he was previously brain washed he did very bad things as well too and was looked at a terrorist for it so that's why Steve gave the shield to Sam instead of his more closet friend Bucky
If there is only one blue haired person in the test screening audience JUST ONE.... Then we screwed 😂
Oh you better believe you won't get one... The test audience will be a plethora of pig nosed septum piercings and a myriad of multicoloured hair in a sea of side shaved Hitler hairdos and a sprinkling of jaguar they/ them Teletubbies because Disney can't help themselves...
They get more money from certain massive ESG conglomerates than they lose from identity politics.
It's not going to change anytime soon
Before watching this, I know Cosmic Wonder will say how this is a positive thing
So true! lol
His enthusiasm is kind of insufferable. He’d figure out a way to be excited about a scorching case of gonorrhea.
Fr bro, that guy is a MCU shill no doubt
Yep he seems to always have one shill foot in the door
@scifiguy26 whenever I hear his voice I stop watching lol
New title:
Corporate America: Braving Bankruptcy
Further reshoots at this point is just throwing money away now - they will never make their money back on this movie, even if it is a moderate success.
That guy's a captain? his real name is Clarence
Lmao
captain clarence
And Clarence lives at home with both parents!!
@joel2783 I heard dude went to Cranbrook- that's a private school...
@Burglekutt_OG Yup, embarrassing!! He's scared to death, he's scared to look at his fuckin' yearbook.
SO HAPPY 😊 🤣🤣🤣🤣 THIS IS GOING TO BE NEXT LEVEL SHITE AND I'M HERE FOR IT!
Captain America: Stunning and Brave 😂 🌈❄️
I am hearing Disney is trying to wipe out in the movie any mention of a certain country in regards to a certain ongoing conflict overseas.
My guess it’s Russia.
@ no the character was supposed to be Israeli.
Replace Red Hulk with Rainbow Hulk. Now’s your chance, Marvel!
brilliant
@ Thank you, your highness. I felt like this was definitely an inspired moment. I’m likewise excited for “Harry Potter (He/Him) & the Sorcerer’s (He/Him) Stone.”
Chance to bomb... sure.
@@MyOpinionish The only thing that matters is diversity. How can more diversity *ever* backfire? That’s because it can’t. See? Foolproof.
They should have Bruce banner turn into rainbow she hulk so they can have him "transition" on screen too...
Major identity points!!!
Nope I thought about it. He'd never be allowed to turn back because that would be detransitioning and that is apparently not allowed
Honestly I don’t want a black cap or a white guy cap or an Asian cap or any other replacement. If you kill a character have the balls to leave him dead any body who takes on the mantle after you kill the original is destined to fail. Give it a break and maybe recast it in a few years if you must beat a dead horse
As Olan Rodgers once said;
"Oh..AGAIN?"
"Again?!"
Harrison ford will be long gone from this earth before the movie ever releases
And the trailer to me just looks like a marvel TV show on Disney honestly
Lmao. This movies budget has gotta be record breaking 😂. Marvel is so FUKD
This is going to be a big flop
For many in society, even though he was under mind control
Their vision of Bucky is of a assassin who killed a lot of world leaders… and Sam is a decorated military man
so for the mcu version, it actually does make more sense for Sam to have the mantle over Bucky
Nobody wanted this anyway. Falcon was fine on his own. He should’ve never been made Captain America in the comic books. If anything, Bucky should’ve been the one being Captain America.
Nobody wanted iron man either quit crying
Just say you didn't want captain America to be black
Brownie points? Well that takes on a different meaning now. Captain should never have become preachy but here we are and he always looks like he ready to start preaching in every scene
A non super soldiered Captain America doesn't make sense to me.
Watch the series then
@healthiswealth1452 Watched it already. It *doesn’t* make sense.
Sam needs to somehow get the super soldier serum, otherwise some of these fights with individuals like the hulk won't seem out of the realm of reality. Cause if Red Hulk hits that shield, whatever is behind it is dust & destroyed.
5:40 Age of Ultron. The trailer that began with Ultron saying "I'm going to show you something beautiful." was better than that whole movie.
There's no way this movie is that bad.
MCU: “Hold my beer”
Bucky already was injected with Super Soldier Serum. He should’ve been the replacement for Steve Rogers.
😂😂 im not surprised marvel died after endgame
There’s no way falcon can body red Hulk when he doesn’t even have super strength. It’s just going to be so unrealistic.
This movie is gonna be eh but I’m so tired of these typa comments so ima spoil it , THE NEW AVENGERS ARE GONNA DEFEAT HIM
He definitely did in comics but even that doesnt make since
Yeah for some reason they think just because the shield is indestructible it means that it can be hit by multiple tons of pressure and the person on the other hand feels non of it.
I bet youd say cap beats red hulk huh?
@@jormungandr4690 The pressure would literally crush him.
That would be like me holding onto a car door and it gets hit by a car.
I’m scared for blade ….
Blade is DOA.
I’ve never been impressed with his acting, despite liking the character and trailer.
Hearing things like “there’s no chemistry” means that throwing millions at more CGI at this point won’t help lol.
I know they want the action to be more punchy but if reports are basically, “The lead isn’t very strong,” then editing can only help so much
Cue the Stone Cold theme song
This movie is going to struggle hard at the box officem
So this is where Deadpool's box office money will go.
Even Steve Rodger’s couldn’t beat any hulk either…
They gonna give him the syrum in this reshoot.
I hope Sam got the serum somehow bc I cant see him being Cap without it!
Test screening with your own employees ……they do want to lose money.
"I can't believe this."
Seriously? After all they done? I'm shocked they didn't reshoot sooner.
It has nothing to do with DEI, and more to do with the source material.
In the comics it makes perfect sense that Falcon takes over.
He had been Cap's partner for years, a long time Avenger, and had never been a Russian agent, he was the natural choice.
In the films Cap has a deeper friendship with Bucky so he's the natural choice.
Sometimes chemistry of actors in an adaptation can change perceptions, like when people started shipping Harry and Hermoine due to the films.
If you keep increasing the cost of the movie then you are just increasing the amount of money you have to make. They should just cut their losses because they arent making it back.
I was never excited for this movie. I'm skipping it. Too many plot holes. I'll say it again. Sam Wilson without the Super Serum is just a man. The Red Hulk can kill Sam Wilson with a single fart. Dead serious.
Brownie points 😂😂😂😂😂😂
If Bucky was Cap, it would be Flawless as he understands Steve’s Beliefs and how the World Nowadays Works better than Anyone, something Sam fails to understand
The smart move would be to write the entire movie off. This is going to be a disaster.
I have the extreme lowest of expectations when it’s a Hollywood, Disney, Mainstream movie. I have seen so many horrible movies the past 6 years. I don’t watch them until I’m absolutely board.
I have zero trust these companies have the best writers and actors/actresses for the job.
Kevin realized lecturing people won’t get you money.
Its a shame Marvel never made any movies after Endgame.....what a shame......
After the movie comes out, we are going to want this version. Reminds me of us wanting the Snider Verse.
The disney MCU has been miss after miss after miss after miss after miss
Please, don't make him gay.....please......I can't it! Please, Disney.....
And have a masculine black man in a Hollywood film? Not on Bob Iger and Kevin Feige’s watch!
I suposse `Redman Bad` doesn`t work anymore...????🤣🤣🤣
i dont have a problem with him becomming captain america...but also lets be honest he has a nice suit to fly..but he dosnt have the power steve rogers had..so him fighting the red hulk would be like ..hulk smashing a fly......makes no sense to me...this is where they start to loose me with the new movies
A Wise man once said
"he ain't no captian his real name is Clarence"
at this rate, they could take all the re-shot scenes and make 3 different Captain America films
Anthony Mackie could probably write a whole book, just talking about his experience making this movie 😂
Imagine if the initial product is better than the reshooted version, i would be pissed💀💀💀
They're doing the same thing I do with my selfies, I can take 50 of them and they're still going to come out ugly and awkward and not going to work out.
I’m sorry but they can reshoot it 100x but you can only polish a turd so much. I’m not gonna go see Captain Falcon, I want to see Captain AMERICA
I want buckey to stay the winter soldier.
Even though I’ve seen Endgame and know how it ends, I’ll still watch it and find myself rooting for Thanos.
JUST CANCEL IT omfg why waste so much money on it.
A lot of people think the MCU changed course because Deadpool & Wolverine came out, but they still have soooooooooooooooooooooooooo many projects that were stuck in production hell since before Deadpool & Wolverine even started. We won't be getting the results of the alleged changes in leadership for another 5* years or so. These reshoots come as no surprise to me
It was just a dumb choice. All they had to do was build on Falcon as a hero not 'mantle swap' him. Look at the fight scene for Civil war when he was taking out the men. Look how he used his wings as a shield there's literally no need for cap's shield and it doesn't suit his power set as he'd be darting around. They should have given him the new suit and when his wings close to form the shield have it show a star symbol to rep cap but still keep his falcon name and have Bucky replacing cap where they work as a duo. People would get accustomed to them as a team and they could help each others weaknesses and have great back and forth banter.
It's going to cost 1billion to make.
Is this the 4th or 5th time I have lost count. At this rate it will need to make a billion to breakeven.
$3 billion to break even.
Instead of hiring the Russo Brothers they’d rather go bankrupt smh 😂😂
I quite like Sam as Cap. For me it makes sense in universe too, Sam has the right heart and could you imagine the backlash if they gave the Cap to Bucky them the world found out what he did as Winter Soldier. Superheroes & government would loose all credibility in the eyes of the public. Which, could of lead to an interesting story to be fair 🤣🤷🏻♂️
Winter Solider & Falcon should of been about Sam getting some sort of serum. Maybe as torture or a sacrifice he takes some incomplete serum that fucks him up, Bucky has to take him to Wakanda where with their medicine and maybe even the black panther flower they cure him but he’s left with the effects of the SSS.
Of course cosmic wonder thinks this is positive. Its so hard to watch him now he backs marvel up every time
Bucky should not have been the replacement for Steve Rogers. His past is too murky with all of the assignations he has done under the Soviet mindset control. It lessons what the symbol of Captain America stands for.
JUST CANCEL IT ALREADY!!!
As a black man, I will never accept Falcon as Captain America. Falcon was a original character that I like, but Marvel decided to give him sloppy 2nds and hand me down superhero name. Sorry, but I reject lazy sloppy 2nds and hand me downs
Trailers so far looked decent but I guess the final product was really bad and unwatchable so they had to reshoot it yet again wow, I hope the version we all get to see will at least be okay.
If I defecated on a plate and put a spoon on it, I bet I could convince you it's chocolate mousse.
Probably not enough lecturing how white people bad.
Bucky should have been the next Captain America but no way DEIsney was going to give the shield to a white man over a black man, even if all logic and the narrative was pointing obviously in that direction
A movie shouldn’t take years to film. Anthony Mackie needs to get paid more. His paycheck is going to be about 50 million dollars with all the work they’re making him do.
3:12 Great point
Disney doesn't know how to make movies anymore. Reshooting a film over and over. Will just loose them money.
Are these reshoots/budget news coming from an credible source?
No, because Bucky never feel liked he deserved to the next Cap. Plus he was still struggling with his demons. It was always from what heard
NBD, it just needs to crack $2 billion to break even.
Cant spell Disney w/o DEI
Marvel needs to accept that people have moved on and want something new, it's ran it's course!
I work for Marvel Studios, the Reshoots took place earlier this year.
This rumor of another round of reshoots is completely false.
The film could not be edited correctly without the previous reshoots and it only took 22 days of re-filming (which if you are aware of how film schedules work, was like 4/5 scenes out of over 300).
Now, a lot of people WANT this film to be reshot because they did not like the trailer. That is not going to happen.
They may have some ADR recording left to do in the studio, but the budget is gone and won’t be extended.
They gave away the best surprises. We shouldn’t know what happens till we see it.
"Disney gotta do better..."
After the Russo films and wolverine and Ryan films I'm done
Who thought we wanted a Captain America WITHOUT Captain America? Regardless of whether Falcon has been Captain America in the comics.
Movie comes out in 3 months bro… like it better hit different this captain America 4!
That's true Ty, have regular peeps test screen, sign NDA cause showing a movie to the wokies will be a crash and burn scenario.
My guess and I do say guess is they made a script that would have made more sense if the election in real life went a different direction but after the results need to recalibrate. Just a guess
Yupyup that's exactly what I thought too
Isn't it funny how Harrison Ford, who's usually a very abrasive person and says what's on his mind, regardless of people's feelings, decided to back Harris publically and suddenly he's in the MCU. It's almost as if he was rewarded because of it or, get this, ORDERED to do it.
The Harris endorsement is the sole reason I will not be watching this film. Lost all the respect I had had for him.
He's not ehanced his suit is made entirely of vibranium tech.
So he's now Black Panther? There goes the uniqueness of each hero. Might as well give all the heroes a vibranium suit at this point.