Like you, Mr. Zabel, I have to deal with hand and finger pain. Was just trying this on guitar, grateful I didn't have to use thumb wrapping technique. Play a while, rub out the numbness, get back on the horse. With your help, it's coming back to me, playing these chord fragments, dropping from rythym to lead and back, working around the nearby inversions to find exciting new things to say - and the way to say them. Thank you so much from this old guy! 🎸
Thank you for this lesson. I want to become a better rhythm player and lessons like this help. There is a lot for me to work on because I don't have much strength or dexterity in my left hand.
This is great. In my ear, your 1st example goes I-V-I. So the second little motif (in my mind) is naturally a piece of what i think you call the "C / second shape" resolving back to a piece of the "E / third shape". Not criticizing or disagreeing, this is just how i think of this and Hendrix and Jon Butcher type stuff. FWIW, i also think of what everyone calls the "E shape" as the "F shape" for like a gazillion reasons. Again, this is great! Thank you!
ive played guitar, and bass since 1963 and imust say you have a good channel and i did subscribe because its fun to see how others do things. 👍 And by the way, i use that first pattern my own aelf as does John Fogerty.
Oh yes. That thumb wrap takes a while to get down. I don't have large hands either, so it took me quite a long time. Still can't do it like Hendrix or Townshend.
Excellent video and a truly fundamental part of serious guitar playing. Thanks for the free triad map. Knowing all these triads in different positions up and down the neck truly does take you into an advanced level of guitar playing. But there's another step in my opinion that will take you even further ---- instead of just remembering black dots and fret positions, learn all the note names and know instantly if they are R (1), 3 or b3, and 5. After that learn all the extensions like 7, b7, 9, 11, #11, 13, etc. and you'll be shittin' in high cotton with the big boys.
Thanks! I try not to complicate things. When people are ready, knowing the notes of the fretboard and the role each note plays are helpful ... as are many other things. It's never-ending, which is awesome! Thanks for the kind words and the additional suggestions!
Can you please do a short on the Used to Love her second solo that slash plays? I have such a hard time getting this down. It’s a simple blues scale but I can’t get the picking pattern down.
Yeah, that's a great suggestion. It's kind of a blend of Bernie Leadon, Mick on Dead Flowers, and Slash himself. (He uses that double-picking lick in there a bit.) Great suggestion. Might even do a "long" as well as a short, because I love the whole "trace the history" sense of the solo. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi Mark, I have just found your channel and I really like it. I am 72 years young and trying to learn the electric guitar, all very confusing. Would love to know if you have a structured course that I could use. Also I have a Roland cube, to start off with, and would really appreciate any advice that you could give me concerning a not too complicated effects pedal. Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing from you. Kind regards. Greg.
Hi Greg! Welcome aboard! I do have some courses, plus I run a group learning session each month in my member's section. I'm actually running a sale starting in a few days. To get on the notification list, you can sign up here. tinyurl.com/EarlyBirdJune2024 Here's a link for my courses. The foundational course is 5-T Level 1. mark-z-guitar-school.teachable.com/
I personally prefer to think FDA shapes instead of ECG, and prefer the view from the player. But at least there’s no CAGED nonsense: There are after all only three inversions in Western music, if you know what that means. Believe Mr. Zabel here: your playing will blast off to the moon.😊
CAGED is far from nonsense. It’s vital for a million reasons. YOU are the one spouting nonsense! Typical Zabel fan. His stuff is sooo basic/ flawed. I was just browsing. Same old crap.
Mark Good Video . One thing though is your Fret Box Pics are confusing. It actually looks like looking into the mirror at a Guitar Book . It should read opposite if you want to keep this simple . 12 th Fret shiould be to the right as we are all seeing it as we are playing it not the way its displayed ( No disrespect to lefthanded players
Thanks. The idea is to match the guitar you're seeing, which many find to be less confusing. I've been finding more people like them this way. (I.e., looking toward the guitar rather than above the shoulder at it.) It's always a quandary. Just be aware I think of these things and of things that might solve or help solve them.
Agree with patrickfrancis7547. Please consider orientating the tab so it looks like I'm holding the guitar and looking down at the fret board. |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |----------------12--12\---------------------------------------------| |----5--5------12--12\----------------3~------------3~--------| |----5--5------10--10\------3-4-5------5-3-4-5------5------| |----3--3---------------------------------------------------------------| E|-------------------------------------------------------------------------| B|-------------------------------------------------------------------------| G|-------------5-3-------------5-3------------------------------------| D|----5--5---5-3-----5--5--5-3-----------3-------5--3----3----| A|----5--5-------------5--5---------3-4-5--------5-------5-------| E|----3--3-------------3--3-------------------------------------------|
Looks upside-down, from standard tablature. Rather confusing for learning guitar. It seems like a UA-cam thing,to reinvent the wheel, and give it a spin.
Mark, I love ur channel and you’ve taught me so much on guitar (thank you!)…but this lesson is confusing. Your first example in this exercise (3:54) you take an e shape chord structure and say you’ll use pieces of that chord…you then use notes not found in that chord. I think I understand the concept here but you don’t appear to be adhering to the principles you’re discussing. Or is it just me??
the thing that will get me to the next level, is understanding how pros barely touch the strings, in scales..where i have to press really hard on the strings
Thanks for the feedback. Do you mean the way my guitar is facing or the diagrams or both? (Because they're both the same direction.) The link I'm pointing to is visible from UA-cam and UA-cam-friendly platforms like Roku. You're likely watching from a browser on your phone ... an Chrome on Android or Safari. If you watch on the app you'll see the link.
@@MarkZabel great thanks Mark. Indeed the way the diagrams are :). I'll check your vid out from the app. I was trying to see it on re-vanced. Again, great lesson bud 👍
I don't know if there is a convention about this but to me, your chord diagrams seem backwards and upside down. My mind interprets chord diagrams as what the chords look like as I look down onto my fretboard. I have to pause the video and do 2 mental rotations to understand what you are showing. I get it though. I have to think of it like I'm sitting across from you and that's the view. I probably draw things myself the way I do because I don't sit across from myself but am looking down from above at my fretboard. Love your lessons and teaching style..
Thanks David. Yes, in this video I'm experimenting a bit with the diagrams - matching the guitar in my hands. The idea is that my hands match the diagrams so it's the same looking at either or both. I keep trying different things to see what people like.
I like it. The diagram matches what he is doing. For me, it helps me understand his point, then I can apply the concept. So (for me) it's fewer (literally zero) mental rotations or flips.
MARK, the spanish castles magic intro question, instead of using 1st inversion chords hendrix will use his pinky as the bass note. Look at the chord X-10-7-7-7-7-X = what chord? and also the chord 6-5-5-5-5-X = What chord?
The first chord is for a 7-string guitar. If you mean X-10-7-7-7-X, then that's an add4 type chord. You could call it Dadd11\G if you'd like. The second chord, 6-5-5-5-5-x, is type of C9. It's all stacked 3rds. 1, 3, 5, b7, 9. The b7 is in the bass. So maybe call it C9\Bb. Again, you could call it many names.
@@MarkZabel Yes thanks, that is what I meant. What I was getting at also is Hendrix was starting to use Slash Chords so when playing pentatonic scale if you listen to the bass root notes that are mostly the slash root note or other than the tonic note. When the bass player is playing other than the tonic note it will put the pentatonic scale into a pentatonic mode or pentatonic substitution. Its very common for Hendrix bass lines to be different than the riff or chord of the song.
@@MarkZabel Hendrix also used stacked 5ths chords in the wind cries mary chord. I'm not sure what other rock band uses stacked 5th chords besides Hendrix, Grunge Bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden, Tool, and Death Metal Music, Which they use Drop D
When you see chord books and tablature, the frets normally get higher to the right, so it's kind of confusing when you see the chords on screen getting higher to the left! Just my opinion.
Two reasons. 1. They aren't always triads. (The idea works for any chord.) 2. The concept is far more important than the term. I'm reminded of the great physicist Richard Feynman reviewing a physics text and being upset that a series of pictures (corn, a boy on a pogo stick, a car, etc.) with the caption "What makes them go?" had the answer "Energy". He was disappointed. Why? Because the term "Energy" doesn't teach physics. His proposal was to say "The Sun" and then proceed to show the connection. The term "energy" is abstract and not helpful for people who aren't used to physical reasoning. I'm not saying I'm as successful at doing that as Richard Feynman was, but that's the idea here. Show how thinking about pieces of chords rather than whole chord shapes can lead to interesting, uncomplicated play anywhere on the neck. Introducing "triads", which are *examples* (but not in any way all-encompassing) of parts of larger chords can cause people to pause and question what triads are, what a 1, 3, 5 is, whether only playing 3 notes of a 7th chord is a triad, whether it works for other chords, etc. It just isn't worth the confusion or value of the definition.
I hope everyone watching knows that all of these clowns are owned by the same people and are actually one single party who only mission is to continue to line their own pockets and to maintain a two party system complete with unlimited terms and their continued ability to keep their pockets full.
Great stuff Mark. Don't ever change! Learning alot at 75 years boss!!!
Thanks brother!
I just downloaded the free stuff you told us about in the #shorts of Blackmores solo in Smoke On The Water. Thanks
Thanks brother! I appreciate it! Enjoy the tabs.
Sounds fantasticaly pro like, opens up a whole new world 🎉 Thank you [!]
Awesome! Give it a whirl and have fun with it!
Grwat tips and advice Mark! Many Thanks! 👋🖤🦋🖤💯
Any time! Hope you're having a great day Kris!
Thx Mark ‘ always enjoy your videos
Thanks!
Beautiful lesson! Thanks!
Thank you!
Like you, Mr. Zabel, I have to deal with hand and finger pain. Was just trying this on guitar, grateful I didn't have to use thumb wrapping technique. Play a while, rub out the numbness, get back on the horse. With your help, it's coming back to me, playing these chord fragments, dropping from rythym to lead and back, working around the nearby inversions to find exciting new things to say - and the way to say them. Thank you so much from this old guy! 🎸
Thanks so much! Glad it's helpful.
if my left arm was painted on, it would only be a little less useful. BUT i'm not ever giving up and i forbid you to also.
Thank you for this lesson. I want to become a better rhythm player and lessons like this help. There is a lot for me to work on because I don't have much strength or dexterity in my left hand.
You're very welcome! Thanks for your kind note.
Many thanks Mark.
You're welcome!
I like these videos... NON-TECHNICAL and very insightful 👍 My main guitar is a G&L legacy... I love everything about it 🥰
Glad you like them!
Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful weekend mark also my favorite year is 2010 ❤😊
Thank you! You too!
Great - thanks
Glad you liked it!
excellent quick lesson man, thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Love your work
Thank you so much 😀
That is an amazing riff man, "Castles Made of Sand."
No doubt!
This is great. In my ear, your 1st example goes I-V-I. So the second little motif (in my mind) is naturally a piece of what i think you call the "C / second shape" resolving back to a piece of the "E / third shape". Not criticizing or disagreeing, this is just how i think of this and Hendrix and Jon Butcher type stuff. FWIW, i also think of what everyone calls the "E shape" as the "F shape" for like a gazillion reasons. Again, this is great! Thank you!
Thanks! As long as you don't think there's an E-shape AND an F-shape, it's okay.
What a great video! I had really struggled to get that fluid movement until now. I still struggle because I have small hands, but I am getting there!
a good approach for solos and learning the notes on the fretboard... say them as you play them
ive played guitar, and bass since 1963 and imust say you have a good channel and i did subscribe because its fun to see how others do things. 👍
And by the way, i use that first pattern my own aelf as does John Fogerty.
Awesome, thanks!
The genius is in the simplicity
I have small hands (as im not a big guy) and the thumb wrap thing is virtually impossible. Thanks for the tips!!! Maybe one day I’ll get it right!
Oh yes. That thumb wrap takes a while to get down. I don't have large hands either, so it took me quite a long time. Still can't do it like Hendrix or Townshend.
Great video
Excellent video and a truly fundamental part of serious guitar playing. Thanks for the free triad map. Knowing all these triads in different positions up and down the neck truly does take you into an advanced level of guitar playing. But there's another step in my opinion that will take you even further ---- instead of just remembering black dots and fret positions, learn all the note names and know instantly if they are R (1), 3 or b3, and 5. After that learn all the extensions like 7, b7, 9, 11, #11, 13, etc. and you'll be shittin' in high cotton with the big boys.
Thanks! I try not to complicate things. When people are ready, knowing the notes of the fretboard and the role each note plays are helpful ... as are many other things. It's never-ending, which is awesome!
Thanks for the kind words and the additional suggestions!
Can you please do a short on the Used to Love her second solo that slash plays? I have such a hard time getting this down. It’s a simple blues scale but I can’t get the picking pattern down.
Yeah, that's a great suggestion. It's kind of a blend of Bernie Leadon, Mick on Dead Flowers, and Slash himself. (He uses that double-picking lick in there a bit.) Great suggestion. Might even do a "long" as well as a short, because I love the whole "trace the history" sense of the solo. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@MarkZabel very cool! I’m looking forward to this. For some reason I’ve had such a hard time with that second solo and it’s getting frustrating.
Incredible, thank you
Glad you liked it!
Hi Mark,
I have just found your channel and I really like it. I am 72 years young and trying to learn the electric guitar, all very confusing. Would love to know if you have a structured course that I could use.
Also I have a Roland cube, to start off with, and would really appreciate any advice that you could give me concerning a not too complicated effects pedal.
Thank you so much and I look forward to hearing from you.
Kind regards.
Greg.
Hi Greg! Welcome aboard! I do have some courses, plus I run a group learning session each month in my member's section. I'm actually running a sale starting in a few days. To get on the notification list, you can sign up here. tinyurl.com/EarlyBirdJune2024
Here's a link for my courses. The foundational course is 5-T Level 1. mark-z-guitar-school.teachable.com/
I personally prefer to think FDA shapes instead of ECG, and prefer the view from the player. But at least there’s no CAGED nonsense: There are after all only three inversions in Western music, if you know what that means. Believe Mr. Zabel here: your playing will blast off to the moon.😊
That works fine. Thanks!
CAGED is far from nonsense. It’s vital for a million reasons. YOU are the one spouting nonsense! Typical Zabel fan. His stuff is sooo basic/ flawed. I was just browsing. Same old crap.
Did you use any special way to learn all the notes on the fretboard Mark
I'm a little advanced, but damn I love your videos!!!!!!!!
Thanks brother!
@@MarkZabel
Thank YOU! Something infectious about your style makes me want to go practice!!!!!
Mark Good Video . One thing though is your Fret Box Pics are confusing. It actually looks like looking into the mirror at a Guitar Book . It should read opposite if you want to keep this simple . 12 th Fret shiould be to the right as we are all seeing it as we are playing it not the way its displayed ( No disrespect to lefthanded players
Thanks. The idea is to match the guitar you're seeing, which many find to be less confusing. I've been finding more people like them this way. (I.e., looking toward the guitar rather than above the shoulder at it.)
It's always a quandary. Just be aware I think of these things and of things that might solve or help solve them.
Agree with patrickfrancis7547. Please consider orientating the tab so it looks like I'm
holding the guitar and looking down at the fret board.
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|----------------12--12\---------------------------------------------|
|----5--5------12--12\----------------3~------------3~--------|
|----5--5------10--10\------3-4-5------5-3-4-5------5------|
|----3--3---------------------------------------------------------------|
E|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
B|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
G|-------------5-3-------------5-3------------------------------------|
D|----5--5---5-3-----5--5--5-3-----------3-------5--3----3----|
A|----5--5-------------5--5---------3-4-5--------5-------5-------|
E|----3--3-------------3--3-------------------------------------------|
Looks upside-down, from standard tablature. Rather confusing for learning guitar. It seems like a UA-cam thing,to reinvent the wheel, and give it a spin.
Agree, nobody has their graphics like this.
Mark, I love ur channel and you’ve taught me so much on guitar (thank you!)…but this lesson is confusing. Your first example in this exercise (3:54) you take an e shape chord structure and say you’ll use pieces of that chord…you then use notes not found in that chord. I think I understand the concept here but you don’t appear to be adhering to the principles you’re discussing. Or is it just me??
the thing that will get me to the next level, is understanding how pros barely touch the strings, in scales..where i have to press really hard on the strings
Maybe your guitar needs a set up. It sounds like your string action might be too high.
Also agree. Great lesson but the weird mirrored fretboart hurts me head. I cant see the link you keep pointing to either:/
Thanks for the feedback. Do you mean the way my guitar is facing or the diagrams or both? (Because they're both the same direction.) The link I'm pointing to is visible from UA-cam and UA-cam-friendly platforms like Roku. You're likely watching from a browser on your phone ... an Chrome on Android or Safari. If you watch on the app you'll see the link.
@@MarkZabel great thanks Mark. Indeed the way the diagrams are :). I'll check your vid out from the app. I was trying to see it on re-vanced. Again, great lesson bud 👍
I’m a beginner trying to learn how to play AC/DC hell not a bad place thanks
You're welcome. AC/DC (especially rhythm parts) is a great place to start.
I don't know if there is a convention about this but to me, your chord diagrams seem backwards and upside down. My mind interprets chord diagrams as what the chords look like as I look down onto my fretboard. I have to pause the video and do 2 mental rotations to understand what you are showing. I get it though. I have to think of it like I'm sitting across from you and that's the view. I probably draw things myself the way I do because I don't sit across from myself but am looking down from above at my fretboard. Love your lessons and teaching style..
Thanks David. Yes, in this video I'm experimenting a bit with the diagrams - matching the guitar in my hands. The idea is that my hands match the diagrams so it's the same looking at either or both. I keep trying different things to see what people like.
Have an out of body experience and watch yourself, that's how I view i.t
I like it. The diagram matches what he is doing. For me, it helps me understand his point, then I can apply the concept. So (for me) it's fewer (literally zero) mental rotations or flips.
I like it.
@@tbonuss That's the theory on using the diagrams in this one.
Does anyone know where's there's another lesson that teaches this slower with normal graphics?
MARK, the spanish castles magic intro question, instead of using 1st inversion chords hendrix will use his pinky as the bass note. Look at the chord X-10-7-7-7-7-X = what chord? and also the chord 6-5-5-5-5-X = What chord?
The first chord is for a 7-string guitar. If you mean X-10-7-7-7-X, then that's an add4 type chord. You could call it Dadd11\G if you'd like.
The second chord, 6-5-5-5-5-x, is type of C9. It's all stacked 3rds. 1, 3, 5, b7, 9. The b7 is in the bass. So maybe call it C9\Bb. Again, you could call it many names.
@@MarkZabel Yes thanks, that is what I meant. What I was getting at also is Hendrix was starting to use Slash Chords so when playing pentatonic scale if you listen to the bass root notes that are mostly the slash root note or other than the tonic note. When the bass player is playing other than the tonic note it will put the pentatonic scale into a pentatonic mode or pentatonic substitution. Its very common for Hendrix bass lines to be different than the riff or chord of the song.
@@MarkZabel Hendrix also used stacked 5ths chords in the wind cries mary chord. I'm not sure what other rock band uses stacked 5th chords besides Hendrix, Grunge Bands like Nirvana, Soundgarden, Tool, and Death Metal Music, Which they use Drop D
Noice !
Thanks!
great! but why do you call them mini chords and not triads?
Because they aren't all triads. Triads are a subset of partial chords.
4:02
Holy cats!
When you see chord books and tablature, the frets normally get higher to the right, so it's kind of confusing when you see the chords on screen getting higher to the left! Just my opinion.
It's an experiment - lining everything up in the same direction so you don't have to flip anything in your mind. Thanks for the feedback.
I’m bald
Your chord diagrams really threw me. I'm used to seeing high E on top and low E on the bottom.
How did he get that confidence ? Haha LSD dude
Why don't you call these chord " pieces" you're talking about what they are, triads !
Two reasons.
1. They aren't always triads. (The idea works for any chord.)
2. The concept is far more important than the term.
I'm reminded of the great physicist Richard Feynman reviewing a physics text and being upset that a series of pictures (corn, a boy on a pogo stick, a car, etc.) with the caption "What makes them go?" had the answer "Energy". He was disappointed. Why? Because the term "Energy" doesn't teach physics. His proposal was to say "The Sun" and then proceed to show the connection. The term "energy" is abstract and not helpful for people who aren't used to physical reasoning.
I'm not saying I'm as successful at doing that as Richard Feynman was, but that's the idea here. Show how thinking about pieces of chords rather than whole chord shapes can lead to interesting, uncomplicated play anywhere on the neck. Introducing "triads", which are *examples* (but not in any way all-encompassing) of parts of larger chords can cause people to pause and question what triads are, what a 1, 3, 5 is, whether only playing 3 notes of a 7th chord is a triad, whether it works for other chords, etc.
It just isn't worth the confusion or value of the definition.
I hope everyone watching knows that all of these clowns are owned by the same people and are actually one single party who only mission is to continue to line their own pockets and to maintain a two party system complete with unlimited terms and their continued ability to keep their pockets full.
I think this comment was directed at a non-guitar video.