My CSA story and the correlation with the story of Dinah. 💗Sensitive subject matter.
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Hey there, Just June here...
I just want to edit that the CSA I endured happened from '79-'81 not the 70s as I stated in the video.
I've been taking off the summer, but came across a video that really spoke to me and I felt the need to talk about it...
The video came from a channel called 'Ghostapostate' about the worst Bible story ever. And to my surprise we had the same idea on what that story was. it was the story of Dinah and Victim Blaming. I hope you take a few minutes to watch, I will warn you there is a good bit of talk and detail about my CSA experience, so please proceed with caution if you are sensitive to this subject!
As always, remember to Be Yourself and Be Well!!! 💗😉
We went into the dysfunction of this bible story and the victim blaming, but neither of us even thought about how hard this damn story would make it for kids to come forward. Thank you for sharing June. - Jason
Thank you Jason! Watchtower really does so much destruction of self esteem, self care, self awareness, the list goes on and on. But most importantly, for young girls and women, they destroy your ability to self protect in that YOU are to blame when men find you attractive and show you the wrong kind of attention. It's THE MAN'S problem. That's NEVER what is taught. It's so infuriating. And as women, we were to be helpers in the congregation but never speaking up, including when we needed help. Especially if it was because a man was making us feel uncomfortable. First 3 questions asked in that scenario... Well, sister, what were you wearing? 🤬 Did you show undue attention to him? 😡 Where YOU setting YOURSELF up for this situation to happen?... Just boils my blood!
On a lighter note... Loved your video on meditation! And thank you for including me! 😉 And Falon was right on with her assessment of what I was saying! 💗
As for the story books, before JWs I used to read bedtime stories to my little ones. After the WT joining, I put aside “wicked worldly fairy stories” and tried to read Bible story books. My kids just wouldn’t have it. What was once a pleasant falling asleep experience, became a violent, often boring story about the Big Jehovah and his friends. They, as babies, knew it was not pleasant. So I stopped and they were pleading for mom to be silly and expressive with the old stories I’d read or make up. All JW materials were printed to make the child feel devalued and ashamed. But I was a stiff WT robot by then, and my kids suffered through that horrible WT violence until I rescued them and got out.
June, I am struggling at my age now, to write my experiences in a book. Each day is painful reliving it but I am doing it after all this time! God bless you, June, so nice to see your podcast!❤
@@christinesotelo7655 Christine, I'm so proud of you for pushing through the process of writing your story! You always have such insight about living as a JW and escaping. I wish you all the best!!! 💓
I am also a CSA survivor, and never put together why I felt like I was to blame, and this makes so much sense! I do remember the talks of if a woman is taken into a field an violated and does not scream, she is guilty of adultery. I had totally forgotten the story of Dinah!
Sending you lots of love! ❤❤❤
Love you Andie! 😘
As adult JW women, we were told at a KH talk, in front of men and children, that it was our duty to fight to the death rather than ALLOW a rape. Yet no “fighting” techniques were given. The Elder’s advice? Excuse me, this is hard to write: “Unrinate and deficate while he’s doing it and if he kills you, well, you’ll please Jehovah and be resurrected to Paradise.” (in the 70’s). I don’t think JW men like women at all.
@@christinesotelo7655 omg 😳 wow, just wow!
@christinesotelo7655 I was raised in the 80s but my mom used to say similar stuff to me. They have no real training about the nuances of sexual abuse. What a disgusting misogynistic organization
June, it was so good to hear and see you again. Thank you for your experience, I know it is painful to tell, but useful to so many of us who DO blame ourselves for CSA that had happened. When I was a little child, I was molested too but not by a JW. But I remember drawing out the things that happened to my cousin and me. I was always drawing! Then, I’d feel “dirty” and ashamed and crumple up the pictures and throw them in the kitchen garbage. Now, you’d think the parents would’ve gotten curious at all the balled-up papers and looked and DID SOMETHING! Questions, anything of a little tiny kid. But no. Nothing. In the 50’s, it just was. And kids were to be seen and not heard, and were disciplined harshly by parents and Catholic Schools. Art Therapy is now a diagnostic and a healing tool. Back then, people just barely coped and got by. There was no help. So little surprise I grow up to join WT and become a submissive woman with pedophiles hidden in plain sight galavanting around the KH with microphones and Elders cavorting with children.
@@christinesotelo7655 thank you and also for sharing! It means a lot to me when all of you share your stories back with me. We aren't alone! Art therapy is an amazing tool! I hope you are doing well! 💗😉 Nice always interacting with you!
I appreciated the ghost apostate’s video as well. I had that horrible yellow book as well.
Sending internet hugs your way June. 💕💕💕
Thank you! I'm looking forward to checking out more of her videos soon. 💗
The story of Dinah and the GBs "great" lesson about her behavior has played out in my life....its sick and so masogynistic. Thanks for having the courage to tell your story.
@@tarajohnson4422 so sorry to hear that you too unfortunately dealt with this in your life personally as well! It seems so many of us were victims and the GB didn't make the situation any easier! Sending love to you and hoping you are finding a way to cope with your trauma in a healthy way! 💗 It's certainly not easy!
Great video, excellent points. So glad to meet you! Unfortunately under sad circumstances. Looking forward to seeing you guys again
Thank you. Wonderful to be getting to know both you and your lovely wife! Hope to see you again soon! ☺️
As per the indoctrination by the org, I was convinced it was my fault because I did not scream out loud, or fight hard enough. Since I was baptized at 14, I thought I would be disfellowshipped if I told anyone. So the heavy weight of feeling like it was my fault followed me all my life. I will never forget how I cried when I heard the line from Good Will Hunting repeated over and over...."its not your fault, its not your fault". Thank you for sharing your experience, I wonder how many like me have never been able to let anyone know.
@@judiemundy I'm so sorry for the undeserved guilt the organization put on you for so many years! It's horrible the effects they have on so many of us! And I can totally relate to that scene in Good Will Hunting. I did the same thing. I balled my eyes out during that scene and could barely pull myself together and am getting choked up even thinking about it now. Thank you for sharing! I hope you have a wonderful day today and all the days to come! 💗☺️
It is good to see you! So,so sorry you were abused and sorry for all the mind blowing things you have gone through with the JW. I am glad you are sharing your story. Hopefully, you will be able to help others with your messages❤
Thank you Carolyn! I always appreciate your love, comments and support! Hope you are having a wonderful summer 🌞
If anyone hasn't seen the documentary The Witnesses, it's an eye-opening couple of episodes that feature an investigative journalist's efforts to get to the bottom of the CSA issues in the Watchtower. I was blown away by a letter that Stephen Lett wrote to a close personal friend whose daughter was assaulted.
Also, June, I'm sorry for your suffering and hope that karma has caught up with that scumbag.
Thank you Alisha! That's a great documentary, I've seen it and agree, if someone hasn't... Check it out! Miss you! 💗
A documentary called “The Witnesses”? Thank you. I’ll look it up.
@@christinesotelo7655 I watched it on Amazon Prime
The Witnesses ua-cam.com/video/gDwHdj7plWo/v-deo.htmlsi=agLK6N26kiQ9lvB_
Great reasoning points. And I’m so sorry that happen to you.
Thank you Stephanie! Great interview with Joe and Fran! Aren't they the best?!?! 💗 We'll talk soon! 😉
That’s actually an insanely good point and should be part of the information brought into court cases. It’s a huge of psychological cultural propaganda children inherit in the JW org.
@@ThatWomanJezebel thank you! I brought it to the attention of someone who is in court battling a CSA case currently. Hope you are well and I'll get back to you soon, I promise! 🤪
You're such an inspiration to me, i really cannot explain you well enough how important all your testimonies are to me
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@@TheCompassionateApostate Thank you Iacopo! 💗
I think in a heartbeat all women will say worst JW Bible story is Dinah. Hands down.
Agreed!!!
June❤
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There is no excuse for CSA or r*pe, but Dinah made a bad choice and put herself in a vulnerable and dangerous situation. That’s why her example is recorded for our benefit even today. Cautious as serpents and innocent as doves.(Matt.10:16)
@@ckelly5141 we can agree to disagree.
This is a brilliant take on this “bible story” and its influence on kids. 😔❤️🩹
Thank you! ☺️
Great to see you again you look like you enjoyed your break you look great 🌞🫶🏼💃💕 Thanks for sharing this point victim blaming is rife in WT org.
Thank you! Hope you are having a wonderful summer yourself! ☺️💗
@@JustDeannaJune I’m in QLD Australia having a spectacular winter bit chilly 🫶🏼✌🏼💃💕🚐🦘