“Canon colors” don’t matter

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  • @thomaskennedy5728
    @thomaskennedy5728 2 місяці тому +86

    Robin pre-timeskip design was superior. Post-timeskip is just boa Hancock.

    • @connieliu8291
      @connieliu8291 2 місяці тому +2

      Fr

    • @vcamv2354
      @vcamv2354 2 місяці тому +4

      Her and Boa still look different enough.

    • @cookie4139
      @cookie4139 2 місяці тому +4

      Idk why, but that tan on every character makes some feeling of familiar and good, tan actually made some character.

    • @fhagalliciogomes
      @fhagalliciogomes Місяць тому +1

      I miss the tan and the bangs so much man 😢

    • @MihajloNastic
      @MihajloNastic Місяць тому

      ​@@cookie4139 she was not supposed to be tanned though

  • @BumbleTboi
    @BumbleTboi 3 місяці тому +44

    Can’t wait to see Bogarde “Galaxy Divide”

  • @happy_mane4186
    @happy_mane4186 2 місяці тому +30

    I miss tanned Ussop man..

    • @SullivanDLuffy
      @SullivanDLuffy 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too

    • @bmona7550
      @bmona7550 2 місяці тому +1

      Makes sense they’d be tanned or have a dark skin tone considering they are often out at sea on (mostly) tropical islands.

  • @Relzex1
    @Relzex1 2 місяці тому +19

    Mihawk's eye colour mistake may be the most detrimental mistake Toei has done if Mihawk is connected to Imu

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому +6

      He probably isn't. That's most likely just a quirky design for characters. Big Mom and other characters also have similar eyes

    • @Relzex1
      @Relzex1 2 місяці тому

      @@tcbbctagain572 big mom's eyes are orange not red

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому +3

      @@Relzex1 shanks and gear 5 luffy were also drawn with reddish eyes. I think that's just Oda likes to portray very powerful characters

    • @Relzex1
      @Relzex1 2 місяці тому

      @@tcbbctagain572 not consistently drawn red

    • @Relzex1
      @Relzex1 2 місяці тому

      Nor do they look like Mihawk's and Imu's eyes even when they are

  • @tcbbctagain572
    @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому +20

    Tbf the only color schemes that we can consider as canon are those that are chosen by Oda himself, mainly the ones in the volume covers. Oda doesn't color the manga. And there are cases where the color schemes chosen for the anime had contribution from the author. An example of colors chosen for the manga that were wrong were shirahoshi and reiju having blond hair.
    And when it comes to for example, mihawk when Oda drew him as a kid, he did have yellow eyes in the colored version tho

    • @iambogard
      @iambogard  2 місяці тому +3

      Oda doesnt color those sbs drawings either, and he has given mihawk red eyes in multiple color spreads

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому

      @@iambogard I didn't say that oda colors the sbs tho. I was trying to point out the inconsistency of the color schemes.

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому

      @@iambogard and could you give an example please. Like a volume cover?

    • @iambogard
      @iambogard  2 місяці тому +1

      @@tcbbctagain572 well theres ch 52 volume cover but also the warlords cover spread where he’s facing forward and theres another i cant find where hes facing the other way with yoru on his back

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому

      @@iambogard was it really colored by Oda??? Cuz usually pages that are colored by the author are colored even in the black and white version tho. At least that's how it works in a lot of mangas

  • @TheBoss-zp4ur
    @TheBoss-zp4ur 2 місяці тому +18

    Oda told us strawhars nationalities Robin is Russian and Zoro is Japanese but Ussop is African 💀 Toei clearly has a favorite color

    • @Retro4Bit
      @Retro4Bit 2 місяці тому +2

      What kind of African? Usopp in the volume 5 manga cover was as pale as Nami. Like literally the same skintone as Nami at the start of the manga.

    • @zyke612
      @zyke612 2 місяці тому +2

      hes white in the manga buddy. elon musk is african but white as snow.

    • @AkataHabo-hx9ek
      @AkataHabo-hx9ek 2 місяці тому +3

      Ah yes my favourite country
      Africa

    • @saeko2212
      @saeko2212 2 місяці тому +3

      that what it would be in real life not the actual nationality. also Africa is not a color, people from Africa don't have to be black you know.

    • @Dalauan_Sparrow
      @Dalauan_Sparrow 2 місяці тому

      ​​​​@@saeko2212when naming countries the straw hats would come from, oda thought black = africa so he just wrote the whole damn continent, he definitely meant for bro to be black

  • @Ridlay_
    @Ridlay_ 2 місяці тому +24

    The thing for me when it comes to these particular Straw Hat's tans is that given Robin is based of Russian ethnicity and Zoro is based of Japanese ethnicity, it makes sense for them to have lighter skin tones then what they were originally portrayed with, and is not whitewashing. But Usopp, he's based of African ethnicity, and thus he's often portrayed too light toned, and that is definitely whitewashing. That's why I don't like the grouping of those, and why it always confuses me people get so hung up on Robin mainly when Usopp should be the darker one.

    • @saltboy7931
      @saltboy7931 2 місяці тому +9

      ussop is mixed though, look at his dad, then look at his mom. though that doesn't really defend the change throughout the series.

    • @Explainar0
      @Explainar0 2 місяці тому +2

      His dad definitely ain't African lol bro is mixed

    • @mahinkhan3708
      @mahinkhan3708 2 місяці тому +2

      Usopp is not African tf

    • @crimsonfire6932
      @crimsonfire6932 2 місяці тому +5

      Usopps parents are not dark enough to not line up with his current appearance.

    • @anointilisque7768
      @anointilisque7768 2 місяці тому

      There is a big "IF" in there when it comes to nationality in the straw hats

  • @zeedozeedo350
    @zeedozeedo350 2 місяці тому +5

    Just like Trunks hair color, you can't suddenly change something that people loved for years
    Robin pre-timeskip was 1 million times better

  • @thatonenoob7854
    @thatonenoob7854 2 місяці тому +8

    The red eyes may be vital to the story though. Imu has the same eyes and based on the epithet "Hawk Eyes", we can assume he has good observation haki. The red eyes may be an effect of observation haki to the highest degree. Which is why when Shanks used his future sight his eyes turned red for a glimpse. I'm just sayin

  • @Ghost.Nappa56
    @Ghost.Nappa56 2 місяці тому +12

    people care way too much about all this skin color stuff man its just anime who cares. I'm not white btw if someone chooses to attack me for this

    • @allxx8807
      @allxx8807 Місяць тому +1

      This is what I say. People of today care too much about these little details and miss the greater picture

  • @Bangaudaala
    @Bangaudaala 2 місяці тому +6

    Wtf? You telling me Oda gave Mihawk the sharingan???

  • @kuraido8001
    @kuraido8001 Місяць тому +6

    I don't give af what anyone thinks. Canon is canon. It's not like American comics where NOTHING is canon.

  • @Tealmat
    @Tealmat 2 місяці тому +8

    i prefer mihawk with red eyes ngl

  • @yazid6024
    @yazid6024 2 місяці тому +6

    Mihawks eye are now permanently gold in the anime end they try to change Mihawks outfit to gold 😂

  • @hgfjhfgify
    @hgfjhfgify 2 місяці тому +5

    I preffer the previous designs, but i enjoyed still

  • @user-a_ce.1238
    @user-a_ce.1238 2 місяці тому +5

    Those red eyes are way too similar to Imu's red eyes

  • @mrkrimsonj114
    @mrkrimsonj114 2 місяці тому +5

    I...did not know that Mihawk had the Imu eyes, *how* did these kinds of mistakes even happen in the first place

    • @Crazylom
      @Crazylom 2 місяці тому +1

      Imu happened when OP could drink

  • @hgoggs
    @hgoggs 2 місяці тому +6

    also robin wasn’t on tequila wolf for two years she was on baltigo

  • @elcalabozodelandroide2
    @elcalabozodelandroide2 2 місяці тому +12

    Yeah , but please stop calling ppl racist on twitter

  • @fisayoosun3735
    @fisayoosun3735 2 місяці тому +8

    Why are people arguing over this bro . Genuinely why i dont like interacting with the one piece community

    • @307nishchay8
      @307nishchay8 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly. Dumb mfs tryna find fault in everything.
      I regret interacting with one piece community. This community has made me hate characters which I didn't hate before and made me love characters that they hate.
      I liked Zoro a lot. Then I got familiar with community and seeing all the meatriders I now have no affection for Zoro.
      I didn't like akainu much at first but seeing how everyone hated him, I liked him more and more.
      It's best to stay away from this community and enjoy one piece on your own.

  • @KazumaSatouReal
    @KazumaSatouReal 2 місяці тому +3

    They done turned usopp white

  • @akshitjain5558
    @akshitjain5558 2 місяці тому +4

    I just think, Oda asked them to remove the tan cuz he decided to introduce the Lunarian. Didn't want the plethora of theories regarding these characters being half Lunarian or whatever

    • @adrielcruz2736
      @adrielcruz2736 2 місяці тому

      We still have people thinking Sanji is part Lunarian because he can set his legs on fire 😂 I don’t think it matters if they are black or not because fans will find a way. And Oda doesn’t really strike me as that kind of author, he seems to not really give a shit about what other people think and cares only about the quality of his story and telling it the way he wants.

    • @yazid6024
      @yazid6024 2 місяці тому +2

      No lunarian has very distinctive traits combine which is black skin white hair and wings...so it's should be okay to make Robin and usopp black for zoro i like white skin better cause he is minority hunter 😂

    • @matabishippuden6965
      @matabishippuden6965 2 місяці тому

      To my knowledge oda never chimed in on the animes decision to remove the tan. Though I might be wrong and I'd appreciate if you can find where it says that he did

    • @happy_mane4186
      @happy_mane4186 2 місяці тому

      @@akshitjain5558 I'm sorry man but this is the most ridiculous and stupid take I have seen in years

  • @pol610
    @pol610 2 місяці тому +10

    But they are pirates, exposed to the sun and not one of them is tanned. Suuuurrrreeee buddy

  • @magorzatarzepka7165
    @magorzatarzepka7165 2 місяці тому +5

    I completely don't understand this controversy. Toei anime isn't canon. Live action isn't canon. Wit anime won't be canon. The only canon is manga and its colors. Mihawk has red eyes. Law has golden eyes (why, Toei? - it would look so badass). Robin has brown ones. Almost every character (Robin, Usopp and Zoro included) is lightskinned, as you can see in color spreads and covers, which are drawn by Oda himself.

    • @tcbbctagain572
      @tcbbctagain572 2 місяці тому +2

      Oda doesn't color the manga btw. Oda colors volume covers. And there were cases that after the volumes were officially released the manga changed colors of certain characters to match the color schemes of the volume covers

    • @magorzatarzepka7165
      @magorzatarzepka7165 2 місяці тому

      @@tcbbctagain572 sorry, I should have made clear that when I wrote about manga, I meant original manga and not its colored version. It has volume covers (as you said) and color spreads (as I mentioned in my previous comment) that shows proper color schemes of characters.

  • @Bestgamer4.0goat
    @Bestgamer4.0goat 2 місяці тому +4

    Bro usopp so black dawg 😭😭😭😭

  • @Mystic_Magirano
    @Mystic_Magirano 2 місяці тому +5

    Getting cut off by your own video is wild

    • @iambogard
      @iambogard  2 місяці тому +2

      They were done with my agenda

  • @chubbyclub2502
    @chubbyclub2502 2 місяці тому +4

    The main reason for bringing that up is to defend whitewashing allegations. Actual preference in character design is different.

    • @iambogard
      @iambogard  2 місяці тому

      Maybe in your experience. The comment i made the vid on is replying to someone saying they miss the old colors lol

    • @MegaPhycoKiller
      @MegaPhycoKiller 2 місяці тому

      @@iambogardI think the reason why skin colours are so divisive in this series is the concerns around what skin tones certain characters will have whenever a new adaptation is made. Many anime fans want robin to have a tan or darker skin, whereas most manga fans want paler skin. This will always cause an argument. I should also note that the darker tones some characters had were more due to technical limitations with animation at the time.

  • @Le_Mef
    @Le_Mef 2 місяці тому

    Pretty sure Bogard is about to make an hail mary to save Garp... at least I WANT TO BELIEVE.

  • @RafaelOwenUwa-Omoregha
    @RafaelOwenUwa-Omoregha 2 місяці тому +2

    Mihawk is imus failed clone

    • @Naldinho456
      @Naldinho456 2 місяці тому

      These theories get more and more wild

  • @rafeailcraig2294
    @rafeailcraig2294 2 місяці тому +3

    Ussop is comfirmed sputh african from oda

    • @nikolaorsmth
      @nikolaorsmth 2 місяці тому +3

      Brother there is no south Africa in one piece, it's if they were in the real world

    • @thetitanhater
      @thetitanhater 2 місяці тому +2

      There’s no Africa in One Piece pal 😂

    • @NoahRoss-yn2hw
      @NoahRoss-yn2hw 2 місяці тому

      he is confirmed african not south african which was weird because he was the only straw hat with a continent and not a country

    • @nhatminhhoa
      @nhatminhhoa 15 днів тому

      so every south african is brown skin ????stupid logic

  • @John-hz8kq
    @John-hz8kq 2 місяці тому

    yeah ussops tan makes no sense, but zoros and robins does make sense, especially robins at least

    • @MihajloNastic
      @MihajloNastic Місяць тому

      Robin loosing tan makes even more sense as she was born(and supposed to be) pale/white

  • @thexipherino667
    @thexipherino667 2 місяці тому +8

    They are all white, they always were, the animation company messed up. Oda always made the characters white in the manga, but since it’s black and white Toei decided to make them a little bit more dark skinned. That’s why they fix it later on to resemble the original colors.

    • @ElitalLOL
      @ElitalLOL 2 місяці тому +9

      not usopp, he is lightskin (Oda said he would be from south africa in the real world). And zoro is japanese, so he is not white.

    • @thexipherino667
      @thexipherino667 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ElitalLOL White doesn’t mean American, no race owns a color. Black people are called black but they are dark brown, Asians are interpreted as yellowish when they are basically white. That’s why I said that they are white. Oda saying that doesn’t mean much for One Piece world since there’s no real world places in it, live action yea but we are talking about the manga/anime, but I understand what your saying.

    • @kunilsen2519
      @kunilsen2519 2 місяці тому +5

      @@ElitalLOL South Africa does not automatically mean dark skin... And South Africa does not exist in One Piece, so despite it being a little fun fact IF Usop happened to exist in our world. It says nothing about Usopp(or Zoro for that matter) and has no effect on One Piece charecters.
      And Janaese tends to be between "white"(the color, not the race) to different shades of brown. So a Japanese man might have a white skin color. We all also know light skin is seen as pretty in Asian countries, so (for the most part) characters will be made with a lighter skin tone(which is described as white) despite the character being Asian.

    • @Gilaris08
      @Gilaris08 2 місяці тому +1

      Why did they "fix" their skin color to make it more white but didnt fix mihawks eyes ?

    • @thexipherino667
      @thexipherino667 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Gilaris08 i ask god the same question every freaking night before my mommy kisses my forehead… he never answers … But I’m pretty sure it’s to be consistent with the manga, Mihawck … I guess because orange looks better than red … ?

  • @feugoherbert
    @feugoherbert 2 місяці тому

    I'll be crazy if it also apply to king

    • @iambogard
      @iambogard  2 місяці тому

      They did it to the boa seraphim already so..

  • @FinestNiggyJay
    @FinestNiggyJay 3 місяці тому

    💯🔥

  • @savsmoney602
    @savsmoney602 2 місяці тому +9

    Usopp isn’t tanned he’s black

    • @thetitanhater
      @thetitanhater 2 місяці тому +3

      He’s white, always has been in the manga

    • @BIaze_BIox
      @BIaze_BIox 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@thetitanhater usopp is light skinned

    • @77819
      @77819 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@thetitanhaterOda literally said he would be from African descent. So if we just don't care about that then i can say Robin is black but she just happens to look white?

    • @thetitanhater
      @thetitanhater 2 місяці тому

      @@BIaze_BIox …yes, you just agreed with me

    • @thetitanhater
      @thetitanhater 2 місяці тому +4

      @@77819 Africa doesn’t own the color black, and multiple white people were born in Africa.
      Just look at Egypt, they have more white people than black people over there.
      Usopp being African doesn’t make him black, and also, Africa doesn’t exist in One Piece 😭

  • @SEVOBTL
    @SEVOBTL 2 місяці тому +5

    Wait is ussop black or white💀

    • @CherryTree277
      @CherryTree277 2 місяці тому +2

      Ussop's mom is literally white

    • @CherryTree277
      @CherryTree277 2 місяці тому +3

      so he is kinda mixed

    • @ghosthost4073
      @ghosthost4073 2 місяці тому +1

      Black

    • @thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522
      @thesejokesarentfunnyyetthe9522 2 місяці тому +3

      He’s Black and mixed.

    • @thexipherino667
      @thexipherino667 2 місяці тому +1

      He’s white, the animation company messed up. Oda always made the characters white in the manga, but since it’s black and white Toei decided to make him , Robin, and Zoro a little bit more dark skinned. That’s why they fix it later on.

  • @mzz6951
    @mzz6951 2 місяці тому +1

    Ussopp is black in live action

  • @sam-s6o
    @sam-s6o 2 місяці тому

    About the snow, snow reflex light very god, so it doesn’t make sense

    • @anointilisque7768
      @anointilisque7768 2 місяці тому

      She even had her dark tone when she was a child

  • @SullivanDLuffy
    @SullivanDLuffy 2 місяці тому +12

    The live action sucks it sucks.

    • @theredmagician5591
      @theredmagician5591 2 місяці тому +13

      It's really not that vad

    • @samirjohnson4524
      @samirjohnson4524 2 місяці тому +6

      Honestly it was kinda cool. I’m actually excited to see season 2

    • @mihawksanklebiter
      @mihawksanklebiter 2 місяці тому +6

      You are one of few who believes it sucks, SO many people love it. Yall are never satisfied with anything lmao

    • @SullivanDLuffy
      @SullivanDLuffy 2 місяці тому +4

      @@samirjohnson4524 Nah it just sucks nothing cool about it

    • @SullivanDLuffy
      @SullivanDLuffy 2 місяці тому +2

      @@theredmagician5591 What dose Vad mean

  • @AleksandarArambasic
    @AleksandarArambasic Місяць тому +4

    Bro she is Russian. She is White, so stop your unlogical debate when its obvious! 🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺