Tristan, I must admit I was very surprised to see that the original two train time and strike movement had been replaced with a modern rack and snail movement. However, I do understand why your grandparents made the decision to have the antique movement replaced back in 1971. Kudos to you for keeping your promise to your grandmother. The clock has a good home and she is certainly a keeper. Thank you for another superb video of your clock collection.
@tristangardner3889 Great! I enjoy seeing other clock collectors collections. My collection is a modest 14 clocks. Oh, I do have some bad news about my vintage 613-192 Downing mantel clock. The click spring on spring barrel for the strike side failed during winding. My right index finger received a couple of lacerations when the click let loose and the key freewheeled. The dial also received some minor damage around the winding hole. I am more concerned about internal damage to wheel teeth and pivots. I don't have it running now due to those concerns. I figure I'll look into repairs after the holidays. With that said, Happy Holidays to you and your family.
@@tristangardner3889 Thanks. Ironically, I had planned on getting the clock serviced after the first of the year since I haven't a clue when it was last serviced. I do miss hearing the chimes. You take care for now.
Generally, I agree that a complete overhaul of an antique movement is preferred instead of replacing the movement. However, there are several factors that need to be considered here. What condition was the original movement in? For example, how many repairs were attempted in the past, if any. If repairs were done, by which means were they accomplished? Were prick punches, soldered on plates, Rathburn bushings, or screw in bushings used to correct worn pivot holes in the movement's plates? All these "methods" were, at one time, considered acceptable practices by poorly trained clockmakers and local "tinkerers" to get the clock running again. Did the repair include a complete teardown, cleaning, pivot polishing, etc? Speaking of cleaning, did the repair shop use an ultrasonic cleaner back in 1971 or was the cleaning performed by hand? What was the horolgist's knowledge and skill level and where tools, parts, supplies, etc readily available? What warranty period for the repairs was offered, if any? How far away was the clock repair shop located from his grandparents home? What was the cost of a complete overhaul versus installing a new movement back in 1971? With all that said, at least his grandparents opted for a new mechanical movement instead of fitting in a quartz movement in the clock case. 🤮 🤮 🤮 😂
Tristan, I must admit I was very surprised to see that the original two train time and strike movement had been replaced with a modern rack and snail movement. However, I do understand why your grandparents made the decision to have the antique movement replaced back in 1971.
Kudos to you for keeping your promise to your grandmother. The clock has a good home and she is certainly a keeper.
Thank you for another superb video of your clock collection.
Glad you enjoyed it. I look forward to making more new clock videos and other miscellaneous material in the future.
@tristangardner3889 Great! I enjoy seeing other clock collectors collections. My collection is a modest 14 clocks.
Oh, I do have some bad news about my vintage 613-192 Downing mantel clock. The click spring on spring barrel for the strike side failed during winding. My right index finger received a couple of lacerations when the click let loose and the key freewheeled. The dial also received some minor damage around the winding hole. I am more concerned about internal damage to
wheel teeth and pivots. I don't have it running now due to those concerns. I figure I'll look into repairs after the holidays. With that said, Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Oh, that's too bad about your Downing mantel clock. I know you'll get that fixed soon enough, and I hope you a great holiday season as well.
@@tristangardner3889 Thanks. Ironically, I had planned on getting the clock serviced after the first of the year since I haven't a clue when it was last serviced. I do miss hearing the chimes.
You take care for now.
That’s a waste to replace the movement when overhauling the original movement would cost about the same amount of money to replace the movement
Generally, I agree that a complete overhaul of an antique movement is preferred instead of replacing the movement. However, there are several factors that need to be considered here.
What condition was the original movement in? For example, how many repairs were attempted in the past, if any. If repairs were done, by which means were they accomplished? Were prick punches, soldered on plates, Rathburn bushings, or screw in bushings used to correct worn pivot holes in the movement's plates? All these "methods" were, at one time, considered acceptable practices by poorly trained clockmakers and local "tinkerers" to get the clock running again.
Did the repair include a complete teardown, cleaning, pivot polishing, etc?
Speaking of cleaning, did the repair shop use an ultrasonic cleaner back in 1971 or was the cleaning performed by hand?
What was the horolgist's knowledge and skill level and where tools, parts, supplies, etc readily available?
What warranty period for the repairs was offered, if any?
How far away was the clock repair shop located from his grandparents home?
What was the cost of a complete overhaul versus installing a new movement back in 1971?
With all that said, at least his grandparents opted for a new mechanical movement instead of fitting in a quartz movement in the clock case. 🤮 🤮 🤮 😂