@@soapboxparishrecordings5287 57 mins?? Have a word, there was about 20 mins at football second half with all the Arsenal players going down every 30 seconds. That was embarrassing
@@Southboi148 so Arsenal laid down on the pitch for half an hour? What about Rodri after 10 seconds pretending to have died after a shoulder barge 😂😂 Spaniard tried to get Arsenal players off from minute 1 and then karma hit when he did he own leg
Simon Jordon does not check his facts before making most statements. Oliver was the referee for the Liverpool incident, he chose not to book Szoboszlai in the exact same situation. We don’t want robot referees but if the same ref comes to differing decisions each week he should be called out.
No Simon, the inconsistencies argument still applies, look at Oliver last season with Kovacic, should have seen red. You cant be on the UAE's payroll and then reffing their games over here, its a massive conflict of interest. The standard of refeering in the Prem is awful, you know when you tune in its the Ref show and not a football match.
@@_Forzahave a look at szobozlai kicking the ball away against Forrest, and then have a look at who the ref is and tell me that’s not inconsistent, it’s a joke
@@_Forza I can think of two incidents before this weekend, in the last 8 months where he hasn't been consistent. No sending off Szoboszlai for kicking the ball off against Forrest and the two red card challenges on Odegaard & Rice. No proof of IQ needed that, that is inconsistent and just off the top of my head you imbecile.
It was Michael Oliver who didn't give the yellow to Szobozlai and it was Michael Oliver who gave Leandro Trossard. So Simon Jordan is talking bullshit!
Last season when Micheal Oliver failed to send off Kovacic for two clear yellows card offenses…. the “Chief Refereeing Officer” for the PGMOL Howard Webb came out and said the reason Kovacic wasn’t sent off was because Micheal Oliver didn’t want to ruin the biggest game of the season by sending off the player. Now can someone please explain to me why less than a year later Micheal Oliver thought sending off Trossard for something less sinister than Kovacic’s two yellow card offences wouldn’t also ruined the biggest game of the season? Consistency is all we ask for!
Mate don't hold your breath waiting for consistency. It is clear that Michael Oliver is a corrupt referee... he will never be consistent when it comes to Arsenal
All we want is consistency. I have no problem with Trossard being sent off. He should have known better given what happened to Rice. But how can you not give Doku or Bernardo a yellow for kicking the ball? This is the same ref that did not give Kovacic a 2nd yellow last season as he didn’t want to ruin the game. But now he wants to apply the letter of law at which he failed to apply consistently within this game. Also, why no mention of City celebrating a draw at home against 10 man Arsenal? I thought City don’t celebrate draws according to Rodri?
So doku getting a yellow is a red now?? The differnce is city scored last minute to salvage a draw where as arsenal celebrate a draw from the start park the bus and city dont take pictures like odeergard
@@wickedmanrick Huh? Who said anything about Doku getting a red?? He should have got a yellow, simple. Yeah and Arsenal were down to 10 men for 50 odd minutes against the best team in the prem. By city standards they should have won yesterday
@@wickedmanrick Mate we talking about the inconsistency from the ref giving a yellow for kicking the ball away. Doku did no card, Trossard did card. Really simple stuff to understand
So Micheal Oliver (same ref) doesn’t send szobozlai off last week for doing the EXACT same thing. It’s the same referee eight days apart. Someone please please please push this
Doku didn't do the same thing as Trossard, Oliver was pointing to move the ball backwards to the correct spot and Doku kicked the ball there so he wasn't delaying the restart
Michael Oliver is consistent in that his decisions are always in favor of City. It wouldn't surprise me at some stage if premier league clubs take legal action.
The inconsistency is simple. In both games that Arsenal were punished for kicking the ball away, the opposition team had done the same at an earlier moment in the game and not been penalized. It’s not hard Simon
We aren't moaning about the cards for Rice and Trossard we are moaning about us getting pulled up and no1 else getting the same treatment even in the same game!
Arsenal would have 5 out of 5 wins now if it wasn't for the red cards that includes villa, tottenham and city away. There's no better team in the prem and i expect a relatively comfortable title win in the end.
Simon’s waffle was just inconsistent. The rule was created by PGMOL, the inconsistency is in the fact that some refs seem to be quick to punish for it while others overlook it.
Simon always says things that are so confusing. What’s the difference with mistakes and inconsistency when a referee makes a call in a game and a week later he doesn’t make that same call?
Sport, at the elite level, is a test of character as well as skill. If a player fails to control himself, then it’s an insight into the teams capability to cohere as a team, and of the manager to blend personalities (on the one hand) and to select the personalities to the occasion.
The ref followed the rule rather than common sense. What really happened was we were all robbed of a great second half. Instead we were subjected to watching boring city passing the ball 3 yards for 50 minutes
You keep saying when will Arsenal learn their lesson? what is the lesson? in the space of three games prior to trousard getting a card The lesson was three people have delayed the game by kicking the ball away, 66% of them were not punished. that's the lesson right in front of them. the overall lesson is that nobody else has been punished for it with a second yellow so far this season
Surely City players should of seen that Walker was talking with the ref and someone use their initiative to drop in and cover Walker when the quick free kick was taken
Michael Oliver made the mistake last week as he was in charge of the Liverpool and forest game. Only Arsenal have had two players sent off for time wasting.
No, you're talking about inconsistency as a whole Simon... As they keep saying it's 'the rules'... What are 'rules' without fair application of them... The problem is it is *the same* refs that appear to be inconsistently applying them, in the very same game even! So his argument of expecting different refs to refferee differently is redundant...
Those 115 charges must be real I can’t continue to watch Manchester City week after week with the referee in their pocket and making favourable decisions to their favour on top of them having Haaland and great players
Watch when City come to the Emirates. Arteta and the team won’t let this slide. Haaland better keep he’s eye on the ball and he’s ankles, Gabby will want payback.
I don’t see anything wrong with. The refs are consistent. They are consistent against Arsenal. Just like how they were consistent against Liverpool a few seasons back to give Man City the league. It’s so boring at this point.
@@ROCKY-w5r it was just an example for relevance to city not doing well against teams with 10 men at home. Pep still tries to pass to death which doesn’t work against a non pressing system/ low block. They should stretched Arsenal with players on the wings right on the line, that opens up space in the middle.
Well Simon is completely wrong… there was no consistency with the trossard second yellow and Doku not getting a yellow for the same thing. EXACT issue against Brighton. Zero consistency.
Compare liverpool and arsenal’s decisions to man cities in the title races in recent years and its clear man city get so much help! Man city have not got 1 pgmol apology 🤣🤣 not one. The rodri hanball The doku flykick the kovacic tackles The lines being drawn wrong against arsenal The diaz goal And so on and on All favours man city and they have won 4 titles by 1 point
talking of things there is a massive conflict of interest allowing are refs to be ref in UAE be paid be the city owners and then ref in those games but the PL dont do anything but on the other hand the PL are bringing 115 charges against them. I dont have the answers but to say the PL cannot have any sort of corruption is total baloney
The rule is silly and they know it. If they are consistent with it and book every single incident there will be 10 or more red cards each game week which will make them look really stupid so they pick and choose
Can someone tell me what free kick Trossard delayed yesterday? Bernardo was still on the floor, holding his back. There was no situation for a free kick and it shows how dumb this rule is. We dont need the league to become a nanny state that takes emotion out the game. Players are going to kick balls in the air, its not red worthy.
But the latter of the law shoudl be apply for ALL refs, if the LAWS OF THE GAMEare the same in all games. Standards and inconsistency are the same Simon in this case.
And the great cover up begins right on cue! Pls which ten men in England can do that against Man City, im waiting? Kovasic last season not once not twice but hey Oliver felt that he needs to keep players onfield. Simon Jordan is conflating issues as expected when his obviously avoiding the Doku incident if your talking consistency really. Love how they count on ppls amnesia.
In the first game man city vs Ipswich , an Ipswich palyer touches saviho in the penalty box city got a penalty. A few minutes later the same foul almost identical to the city ironically it was saviho who committed the foul , funny enough Ipswich doesn't get a penalty.
Simon Jordan has been the bias one in this show ever. He believes one booking is a mistake and the other one is rectifying the mistake. Either ways, the team that is booked is affected. How would you know the referee made a mistake not knowing whether he did it intentionally or not? So, if the referee made a mistake of not booking a player from one team, he should make it too to the other team because the team having their player booked is affected. That alone justify him being bias. You have to be consistent throughout especially if the fouls are of the similar instance/degree.
Why is everyone complaining about Trossard getting a 2nd yellow card. The foul he made just before he kicked the ball away was a yellow card incident on it's own
@@TomTom-gs7wy oh my comment was making fun of whoever was complaining about extra time. I know why they added it, it was well deserved, when Raya has the ball for 30-40 seconds any time he catches it.
Arsenal totally unbearable these days under Arteta. Used to moan like crazy about Newcastle, Arsenal now the biggest time wasters and dark arts in the league. Noone wants them to win the league and thankfully they won't.
I watched every single bit of the game yesterday. It’s surprising no one is talking about how indisciplined Arsenal players have been lately; they learned that stupid behaviour from man city. But as clever as man city are, they stopped that rubbish knowing the repercussions can be devastating. Also, retreating to a low block didn’t help.
I watched every single bit of the game yesterday. It’s surprising no one is talking about how indisciplined Arsenal players have been lately; they learned that stupid behaviour from man city. But as clever as man city are, they stopped that rubbish knowing the repercussions can be devastating. Also, retreating to a low block didn’t help.
“Man city did well to get a point” against 10 men at home for over 45 minutes is the funniest bit of revisionism you’ll see this season
Against the best defensive of the last 18 months playing a 6-3 formation for 57 mins. Arsenal were ace
@@soapboxparishrecordings5287
57 mins?? Have a word, there was about 20 mins at football second half with all the Arsenal players going down every 30 seconds. That was embarrassing
@@Southboi148 sky tried the same angle as you just to find out from opta the ball was in play longer than any other game this season
@@Southboi148nope sky confirmed the ball was in play the most out of any prem game this season. Wanna try another excuse?
@@Southboi148 so Arsenal laid down on the pitch for half an hour? What about Rodri after 10 seconds pretending to have died after a shoulder barge 😂😂 Spaniard tried to get Arsenal players off from minute 1 and then karma hit when he did he own leg
Simon Jordon does not check his facts before making most statements. Oliver was the referee for the Liverpool incident, he chose not to book Szoboszlai in the exact same situation. We don’t want robot referees but if the same ref comes to differing decisions each week he should be called out.
Can people please talk about this, they just blundered around like three old piss heads not realising it was the same ref eight days ago
No Simon, the inconsistencies argument still applies, look at Oliver last season with Kovacic, should have seen red. You cant be on the UAE's payroll and then reffing their games over here, its a massive conflict of interest. The standard of refeering in the Prem is awful, you know when you tune in its the Ref show and not a football match.
Simon talking nonsense and protecting the refs because he wants to line up a podcast with Howard Webb. Absolute sell out Simon is
So u think he's been consistent for a year. Y'know since we're counting after that incident. If u have the time can u post your IQ
Look at Micheal Oliver last week!!!!!! Doesn’t send szobozlai off, you genuinely couldn’t make it up
@@_Forzahave a look at szobozlai kicking the ball away against Forrest, and then have a look at who the ref is and tell me that’s not inconsistent, it’s a joke
@@_Forza I can think of two incidents before this weekend, in the last 8 months where he hasn't been consistent. No sending off Szoboszlai for kicking the ball off against Forrest and the two red card challenges on Odegaard & Rice. No proof of IQ needed that, that is inconsistent and just off the top of my head you imbecile.
Corruption being labelled as inconsistencies 😂
Corruption? Oh please grow up
It was Michael Oliver who didn't give the yellow to Szobozlai and it was Michael Oliver who gave Leandro Trossard. So Simon Jordan is talking bullshit!
As usual. Is he really that stupid or is it just to get conversation going?
Thought the exact same thing. Can't believe he missed the point entirely
as usual.
Last season when Micheal Oliver failed to send off Kovacic for two clear yellows card offenses…. the “Chief Refereeing Officer” for the PGMOL Howard Webb came out and said the reason Kovacic wasn’t sent off was because Micheal Oliver didn’t want to ruin the biggest game of the season by sending off the player.
Now can someone please explain to me why less than a year later Micheal Oliver thought sending off Trossard for something less sinister than Kovacic’s two yellow card offences wouldn’t also ruined the biggest game of the season?
Consistency is all we ask for!
The szobozlai incident was eight days ago and Micheal Oliver was the ref…
Mate don't hold your breath waiting for consistency. It is clear that Michael Oliver is a corrupt referee... he will never be consistent when it comes to Arsenal
All we want is consistency. I have no problem with Trossard being sent off. He should have known better given what happened to Rice. But how can you not give Doku or Bernardo a yellow for kicking the ball? This is the same ref that did not give Kovacic a 2nd yellow last season as he didn’t want to ruin the game. But now he wants to apply the letter of law at which he failed to apply consistently within this game. Also, why no mention of City celebrating a draw at home against 10 man Arsenal? I thought City don’t celebrate draws according to Rodri?
If refs keep making bad decisions, isn't that consistency?😂. The standard should be higher.
So doku getting a yellow is a red now?? The differnce is city scored last minute to salvage a draw where as arsenal celebrate a draw from the start park the bus and city dont take pictures like odeergard
@@wickedmanrick Huh? Who said anything about Doku getting a red?? He should have got a yellow, simple. Yeah and Arsenal were down to 10 men for 50 odd minutes against the best team in the prem. By city standards they should have won yesterday
@@Teezy_Ty yellow your still on the pitch so whats the diff he didnt do anything after that for a second yellow
@@wickedmanrick Mate we talking about the inconsistency from the ref giving a yellow for kicking the ball away. Doku did no card, Trossard did card. Really simple stuff to understand
So Micheal Oliver (same ref) doesn’t send szobozlai off last week for doing the EXACT same thing. It’s the same referee eight days apart. Someone please please please push this
Simon. Whether it’s consistency or standards, you know what the caller means. Dont play on words and speak about the real issues.
Doku didn't do the same thing as Trossard, Oliver was pointing to move the ball backwards to the correct spot and Doku kicked the ball there so he wasn't delaying the restart
Michael Oliver is consistent in that his decisions are always in favor of City. It wouldn't surprise me at some stage if premier league clubs take legal action.
it's bias and personal relationships.
The inconsistency is simple. In both games that Arsenal were punished for kicking the ball away, the opposition team had done the same at an earlier moment in the game and not been penalized. It’s not hard Simon
Corruption of course
We aren't moaning about the cards for Rice and Trossard we are moaning about us getting pulled up and no1 else getting the same treatment even in the same game!
Bottlers
Simon chatting rubbish again
Arsenal would have 5 out of 5 wins now if it wasn't for the red cards that includes villa, tottenham and city away. There's no better team in the prem and i expect a relatively comfortable title win in the end.
..🤔 your final sentence shows your delusions
In the end of the season we all know assna is bottling the league
Welcome to liverpools world. Liverpool been saying man city own the refs for 6 years and been called victims.
Now arsenal fans are seeing it
Have you seen what we've been through the last 20 years? Nothing about this title race will be comfortable but we will do it
Man we needed Martin Keown
Simon’s waffle was just inconsistent. The rule was created by PGMOL, the inconsistency is in the fact that some refs seem to be quick to punish for it while others overlook it.
I really wish the caller had mentioned that it was also Oliver that chose not to send off Szobozlai against Forest.
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Now clean your tongue with toilet paper.
@@CitrusBlue9367 Get yourself a bar of soap for yourself & boyfriend.
@@lfcspectre4335 Lad I hope you and Simon use soap toilet paper might not be enough.
@@CitrusBlue9367 Lad tell your boyfriend clean that mouth of yours with bar of soap and water, because you talk some utter s*ite!!
Referee Michael Oliver is employed by the ManCity group in Dubai in the off-season. Let that sink in
Doku didn`t do the same thing
Simon always says things that are so confusing. What’s the difference with mistakes and inconsistency when a referee makes a call in a game and a week later he doesn’t make that same call?
Sport, at the elite level, is a test of character as well as skill.
If a player fails to control himself, then it’s an insight into the teams capability to cohere as a team, and of the manager to blend personalities (on the one hand) and to select the personalities to the occasion.
The ref followed the rule rather than common sense. What really happened was we were all robbed of a great second half. Instead we were subjected to watching boring city passing the ball 3 yards for 50 minutes
Oliver was the same ref who didnt book sbozo last week so whats the excuse!
You keep saying when will Arsenal learn their lesson? what is the lesson? in the space of three games prior to trousard getting a card The lesson was three people have delayed the game by kicking the ball away, 66% of them were not punished. that's the lesson right in front of them. the overall lesson is that nobody else has been punished for it with a second yellow so far this season
Surely City players should of seen that Walker was talking with the ref and someone use their initiative to drop in and cover Walker when the quick free kick was taken
Can we please talk about how great Villa are doing please. JEEZ
Put the Warren v stelling debate up if you dare talksport lol
Consistency should be practice by the ref in each game basis rather than lumping it overall...
Michael Oliver made the mistake last week as he was in charge of the Liverpool and forest game. Only Arsenal have had two players sent off for time wasting.
No, you're talking about inconsistency as a whole Simon... As they keep saying it's 'the rules'... What are 'rules' without fair application of them... The problem is it is *the same* refs that appear to be inconsistently applying them, in the very same game even! So his argument of expecting different refs to refferee differently is redundant...
There you go again, typical Arsenal small club mentality. Wherever they don’t win it’s never their fault.
Lost all respect for Martin for a manager and former player he talks rubbish
Those 115 charges must be real
I can’t continue to watch Manchester City week after week with the referee in their pocket and making favourable decisions to their favour on top of them having Haaland and great players
where is martin keown
Hiding
Watch when City come to the Emirates. Arteta and the team won’t let this slide. Haaland better keep he’s eye on the ball and he’s ankles, Gabby will want payback.
Not one point in this video did I see an argue? Click bait again
I don’t see anything wrong with. The refs are consistent. They are consistent against Arsenal. Just like how they were consistent against Liverpool a few seasons back to give Man City the league. It’s so boring at this point.
City struggle with low blocks. Leeds in 2021 played with 10 men for an hour and won the game 2-1 AT city
Crazy how you had to find a game from three years ago as an example and i am a manutd fan.
@@ROCKY-w5r it was just an example for relevance to city not doing well against teams with 10 men at home. Pep still tries to pass to death which doesn’t work against a non pressing system/ low block. They should stretched Arsenal with players on the wings right on the line, that opens up space in the middle.
The league is corrupted and rotten to the core.
But no one of these clowns has the balls or integrity to say it.
Well Simon is completely wrong… there was no consistency with the trossard second yellow and Doku not getting a yellow for the same thing. EXACT issue against Brighton. Zero consistency.
One rule for Arsenal and another rule for others. Twice in a row City have failed to beat Arsenal at the Etihad. We go again. COYG! ❤❤
Simon, at least be consistent in the same game!
Compare liverpool and arsenal’s decisions to man cities in the title races in recent years and its clear man city get so much help!
Man city have not got 1 pgmol apology 🤣🤣 not one.
The rodri hanball
The doku flykick the kovacic tackles
The lines being drawn wrong against arsenal
The diaz goal
And so on and on
All favours man city and they have won 4 titles by 1 point
Check your facts simon before opening yor mouth
Does simon just argue for the sake of arguing? His argument is flawed, why even have rules if different refs have different standards.
City fans can't accept Pep LET Arteta boss him. City were the favourites gong into it and in the second-half whilst behind were facing 10 men.
City always get the rub of the green. Refs are very ordinary at best, they let circumstances dictate decision making.
It’s corruption it’s quite plain
😂😂😂
The player that fouled rodri at the start. Why didn't he get a card?
talking of things there is a massive conflict of interest allowing are refs to be ref in UAE be paid be the city owners and then ref in those games but the PL dont do anything but on the other hand the PL are bringing 115 charges against them. I dont have the answers but to say the PL cannot have any sort of corruption is total baloney
The rule is silly and they know it. If they are consistent with it and book every single incident there will be 10 or more red cards each game week which will make them look really stupid so they pick and choose
Can someone tell me what free kick Trossard delayed yesterday? Bernardo was still on the floor, holding his back. There was no situation for a free kick and it shows how dumb this rule is.
We dont need the league to become a nanny state that takes emotion out the game. Players are going to kick balls in the air, its not red worthy.
Incompetence*
But the latter of the law shoudl be apply for ALL refs, if the LAWS OF THE GAMEare the same in all games. Standards and inconsistency are the same Simon in this case.
And the great cover up begins right on cue! Pls which ten men in England can do that against Man City, im waiting? Kovasic last season not once not twice but hey Oliver felt that he needs to keep players onfield. Simon Jordan is conflating issues as expected when his obviously avoiding the Doku incident if your talking consistency really. Love how they count on ppls amnesia.
White ask if Arsenal & other teams are going to learn their lesson...what other teams? This rule is only applicable to Arsenal...
Simon siding with City, what shocker
In the first game man city vs Ipswich , an Ipswich palyer touches saviho in the penalty box city got a penalty. A few minutes later the same foul almost identical to the city ironically it was saviho who committed the foul , funny enough Ipswich doesn't get a penalty.
The only consistency is City getting help in big games.. vs Arsenal ,Liverpool or any ocasión they are in trouble...
Simon Jordan has been the bias one in this show ever. He believes one booking is a mistake and the other one is rectifying the mistake. Either ways, the team that is booked is affected. How would you know the referee made a mistake not knowing whether he did it intentionally or not? So, if the referee made a mistake of not booking a player from one team, he should make it too to the other team because the team having their player booked is affected. That alone justify him being bias. You have to be consistent throughout especially if the fouls are of the similar instance/degree.
A.I to follow the rules of the game ?
Why is everyone complaining about Trossard getting a 2nd yellow card. The foul he made just before he kicked the ball away was a yellow card incident on it's own
City always play with 13 men
13?
@@kylowhen2639ref and var 😂
The premiership
So much crying
doesn't know where the extra time comes from. You mean Raya goin down, then Timber going down right after play starts back up again, in extra time.
Added time didn’t start until 91:30 due to players being down.. time wasting cheats
@@TomTom-gs7wy oh my comment was making fun of whoever was complaining about extra time. I know why they added it, it was well deserved, when Raya has the ball for 30-40 seconds any time he catches it.
@@eiler1987 yes mate I was agreeing with you, you are absolutely correct
Arsenal should of won
Arsenal totally unbearable these days under Arteta.
Used to moan like crazy about Newcastle, Arsenal now the biggest time wasters and dark arts in the league.
Noone wants them to win the league and thankfully they won't.
Arsenal were rubbish again
You didn’t watch a minute of the game did you
Hahahahahahahahaha! Thank you! Made my day!
You are a spurs supporter!
I watched every single bit of the game yesterday. It’s surprising no one is talking about how indisciplined Arsenal players have been lately; they learned that stupid behaviour from man city. But as clever as man city are, they stopped that rubbish knowing the repercussions can be devastating.
Also, retreating to a low block didn’t help.
I watched every single bit of the game yesterday. It’s surprising no one is talking about how indisciplined Arsenal players have been lately; they learned that stupid behaviour from man city. But as clever as man city are, they stopped that rubbish knowing the repercussions can be devastating.
Also, retreating to a low block didn’t help.
0:55 always trying to force "rivals" nonsense😂 ridiculous