@@vhallediting6551 it actually would work, but you need an onboard GPU to render input from both cameras directly wired to it which would be extremely difficult to find a place for in an F1 car, the other option is to use recordings... which can be cool but kills the excitement imo.
Honestly, when I saw Alonso's helmet cam pov, it was the best, although bit shakey but it really showed how fast they were going, and how it sort of feels when turning with all the Gs. I felt that was incredible, and kind of the same feeling when you look at the old Formula 1 povs
It looked good altough I wished they would have used a bigger FOV. Then it will look like its going even faster. Also nice if they would have added some stabilization because the vibrations ist't really something you'd experience
A Former F1 driver Alex Wurz said the shaking is exactly the same the drivers experience. He said that in AbuDhabi 2021 he is a commentator or how it is called
@@herbertmayer5272 I've driven his F1 car, you feel the shaking but you don't actually 'see' it because your eyes also stabilize. But I feel the Abu Dhabi visor cam was better than the earlier ones, I think. (Didn't really see it that well because i was at the race)
The shakiness is exactly what Alonso was going through. It was fantastic, and it's the best way to get the feel for the speed without using stationary cams (which Liberty media won't because they're not cool enough or whatever).
My favorite VisorCam story: Renault developed automatic brake bias control system They decided to record visorcam footage of Ricciardo's car and put that on socials Racing point saw that footage and saw brake bias changing automatically on his steering wheels screen They then protests this system to FIA and submitted that footage as evidence FIA found renault guilty of creating driver assist system and outlawed Renault's new technology
@@rsg-lewisdagoat You can watch the T-cam footage on F1TV but it cuts off right before he hit the barrier because of course the car got ripped apart. I assume it would be the same for the helmet cam but would still be incredibly impressive to see a small bit of what he experienced.
I believe its because FE have the same dashboard, so other teams can easily interpret their data. With F1, each team has a different dashboard and other teams cant easily interpret the data.
@@-TJ- Definitely not, if you go to r/Formula1, there are people who transcribe data from the halo cam. It's most definitely possible to extract data from the steering display, it's just that it isn't worth it
Great explanation! I think you are the only one that explains in-depth tech about visor cam in F1 currently around the whole internet. Really appreciate your work.
Great explanation of the tech, I just want to add one thing to the end there. More frames doesn't mean the image is going to be cleaner, It just means it is going to be smoother. Bitrate and resolution what makes the image cleaner.
I think F1 also experimented with cambox and glasses-frame style cameras for practice laps in their UA-cam channel for a bit, since they don't need a live feed for that instance.
I wish they had horizon lock. You would still be able to see the shake because the cockpit moves around, but the surrounding track is easier to see. You can do software stabilisation as post-processing for replays without adding weight to the helmet
They need to find a way to Mount it dead centre. I find it frustrating watching it offset sideways as opposed to from the diver’s eye view, which is dead on straight.
Hi Matt, Last week I drove a Formula Renault 2.0 and an F1 car using my self made eye level visor camera! 1440p at 50fps with incredible stabilisation. My video from that will be online probably next week. On my channel I already have a video of me using it while karting in a CRG Rotax Max. I can send you some screenshots of my FR2.0 and F1 visor camera if you are interested!
I believe the first time they ever used a helmet cam in F1 (I could be wrong on this) was in '94. There's footage from the Belgian Grand Prix of Mark Blundell's Tyrell doing qualifying with a helmet cam and considering it's '94 the quality is pretty decent
Interesting fact for all the people shocked that British TV is broadcast at 25fps and not 30fps. In the old days TV broadcast and reception were kept in sync by the frequency of the electricity grid, which would allow all equipment to stay synchronised without any manual tuning. In Britain and the rest of Europe the grid's AC runs at 50hz, while most of the rest of the world runs at 60hz. To double the resolution of images broadcast they would be interlaced, so one frame consists of every odd line, then the next would consist of every even line of the picture. In Europe this would mean you'd be getting 50 half frames a second (or 25 deinterlaced) and in America you'd get 60 half frames (or 30 deinterlaced). As technology has improved bit by bit in a sport mostly produced for European audiences, hardware has been gradually replaced leaving this remnant because it's not worth the effort of creating new complications during production. Nowadays, even though all broadcast is digital and all consumer hardware can play any sensible fps, the framerate stays at 25fps because there isn't actually any demand for higher framerates.
Indycar uses a single motorized camera that can be spun by an operator to any direction. F1 uses two fixed cameras, one pointing forward and one backward.
@@AntiComposite in the past Indycar used to have one fixed camera on top of the rollhoop with two points of view, one pointing foward and other point back and the camera was centralized. The fix would not be something fancy, "just" turn the camera 90 degrees and problem solved
The steering display being public is nothing new. If you get an F1TV subscription, you can watch somebody's halo cam for the entire duration of the weekend and there are many amateurs who manage to transcribe stuff from the feed. It's not as if other teams are gaining any new data, this stuff has always been public
F1 wasn't using such a cameras, because of broadcasting limitation. This small devices had to be designed in such a way to transfer data despite all the interferences and distances on the track and also fight shere speed of cars.
A lot of people are saying it should be stabilised but that defeats the object of drivers eye. You’re experiencing what the driver is experiencing. The drivers head isn’t stabilised so stabilising the cam would defeat the object of it being there might as well just stick to using one on the roll hoop
I've been wondering for some time why the radio and now the cameras in the helmets aren't connected to the car throughout bluetooth. I would think it would be preferable to have as few cables to undo as possible in case the driver needs to get out quickly. Any one have any idea why they don't do that?
So we'll only see visor cams from Mazespin, Gio, Kimi, George, Latifi, Pierre, Charles, Lando, Alonso, Ocon and Lewis. Loads of drivers but I'd like to see a Red Bull visor cam.
Please help! I know this is kind of unrelated but do you know of any racing helmets out now that are snell sa2015 or newer with built in cameras? Im going to xtremexperience and they dont allow gopros to be attached. I want to record the experience first person tho with at least 1080p quality
i wonder what the reason is why the cameras originally were so poor. Id say since 2016 or 17, phone cameras have gotten good enough to be viable for stuff like this and those produce really nice quality. Well, for their size, at least. And with modern cameras being even better as well as image processing algorithms being good enough to "improve" things even better, why dont they just partner with Sony, Samsung or even apple for this
To be fair, not good enough. I think Bell and the others should take up the RnD in this department, stabilized 4k is not that much to ask nowadays, but it looks worse than a vga webcam now.
Does no one think that the other teams can easily go and see what the other drivers are doing and seeing in there steering wheels which obviously isn't ideal!
imagine if they used both left and right cameras and stitched them together to have this amazing centered drivers eye camera
u wuld puke
That wouldn't really work I don't think, you'd be creating something more like stereoscopic 3D at that point
That would be so cool
@@vhallediting6551 it actually would work, but you need an onboard GPU to render input from both cameras directly wired to it which would be extremely difficult to find a place for in an F1 car, the other option is to use recordings... which can be cool but kills the excitement imo.
Intelligence: -100
Honestly, when I saw Alonso's helmet cam pov, it was the best, although bit shakey but it really showed how fast they were going, and how it sort of feels when turning with all the Gs. I felt that was incredible, and kind of the same feeling when you look at the old Formula 1 povs
It looked good altough I wished they would have used a bigger FOV. Then it will look like its going even faster. Also nice if they would have added some stabilization because the vibrations ist't really something you'd experience
A Former F1 driver Alex Wurz said the shaking is exactly the same the drivers experience. He said that in AbuDhabi 2021 he is a commentator or how it is called
@@herbertmayer5272 I've driven his F1 car, you feel the shaking but you don't actually 'see' it because your eyes also stabilize. But I feel the Abu Dhabi visor cam was better than the earlier ones, I think. (Didn't really see it that well because i was at the race)
The shakiness is exactly what Alonso was going through. It was fantastic, and it's the best way to get the feel for the speed without using stationary cams (which Liberty media won't because they're not cool enough or whatever).
My favorite VisorCam story:
Renault developed automatic brake bias control system
They decided to record visorcam footage of Ricciardo's car and put that on socials
Racing point saw that footage and saw brake bias changing automatically on his steering wheels screen
They then protests this system to FIA and submitted that footage as evidence
FIA found renault guilty of creating driver assist system and outlawed Renault's new technology
My only thought is: Looooooooooooollll.
@@8thlvlMage that was everyone's thought apart from Renault
My god, imagine if this was implemented for all drivers in 2020. We would have had a POV from Grosjean's crash.
They probably wouldn’t have shown it, they didn’t even show the t-cam from his crash
@@rsg-lewisdagoat You can watch the T-cam footage on F1TV but it cuts off right before he hit the barrier because of course the car got ripped apart. I assume it would be the same for the helmet cam but would still be incredibly impressive to see a small bit of what he experienced.
Heard somewhere that there was a camera that was still running that they never showed. Maybe the camera on the halo column was still running?
You would not have seen much except for pov boom to the wall and a lot of orange glow afterwards
@@Rheenen and then that movie style of him comming out of the flames if he had a helmet cam
interesting that F1 didn't blur/black out the dashboard like what FE does
You can already see a lot from the regular onboard camera so it's no biggie, I guess.
I think it's because we are passed the halfway point and no one cars about the 2021 cars anymore
I believe its because FE have the same dashboard, so other teams can easily interpret their data. With F1, each team has a different dashboard and other teams cant easily interpret the data.
@@-TJ- Definitely not, if you go to r/Formula1, there are people who transcribe data from the halo cam. It's most definitely possible to extract data from the steering display, it's just that it isn't worth it
If the camera was standard and every driver had it then you'd see the dashboards get blurred out
Great explanation!
I think you are the only one that explains in-depth tech about visor cam in F1 currently around the whole internet.
Really appreciate your work.
I just realized that technically an F1 car these days is one of the biggest and most expensive media equipment on 4 wheels
Check out the camera-car Bugatti Chiron XD
@@jooncash yeah kinda,
CART /ChampCar used this kind of camera technology almost 20 years ago. Paul Tracey at Long Beach 2002.
@@YS9-9 a Bugatti Chiron costs nothing compared to an F1 car
@@maddox471 not really true, it depends on what you look at and how you look at it
Great Video as usual Matt, looking forward to see them used in live broadcasts🔥
Great explanation of the tech, I just want to add one thing to the end there. More frames doesn't mean the image is going to be cleaner, It just means it is going to be smoother. Bitrate and resolution what makes the image cleaner.
Thanks for the info!
I was wating for it all the week
Me Too
All the time you have to wait the week - Alonso
@@waldorfcrew lol
Amazing video again Matt! Very insightful and informative
I think F1 also experimented with cambox and glasses-frame style cameras for practice laps in their UA-cam channel for a bit, since they don't need a live feed for that instance.
I love the camera angle .I can’t wait to see it used more.
Very good knowledge of the tech thanks.
Wow.. I was really wondering where that camera was and how it was fitted into the helmet. This is insane!!!
I wish they had horizon lock. You would still be able to see the shake because the cockpit moves around, but the surrounding track is easier to see.
You can do software stabilisation as post-processing for replays without adding weight to the helmet
They need to find a way to Mount it dead centre. I find it frustrating watching it offset sideways as opposed to from the diver’s eye view, which is dead on straight.
Would love to see Linus Tech Tips crew go to an F1 race. Think they would be blown away by the tech
Thank you mate, I’m a Broadcast Engineer/Camera operator and I did find this really interesting and well explained
came across the channel randomly. Now a favorite!
Thanks Rick! 🤙🏻
This is a very informative video, keep it up Matt.
Hi Matt,
Last week I drove a Formula Renault 2.0 and an F1 car using my self made eye level visor camera!
1440p at 50fps with incredible stabilisation. My video from that will be online probably next week. On my channel I already have a video of me using it while karting in a CRG Rotax Max. I can send you some screenshots of my FR2.0 and F1 visor camera if you are interested!
If codemasters implements this kind of vibration into their cars in F1 2022, I am so buying that game!
Better they implement VR support in their F1 games. It's about time for that.
Yes considering vr on console almost 6years now
@@yornavthis aged well
Simply put... I was giggling like a schoolkid when I saw Ferrari's le Clerc i think showcasing this tech. It was just sooooo awesome.
And Fernando Alonso earlier in the season! It was a treat both times for sure.
Love your videos keep it up
When watching the helmet cam footage it looks exactly as a videogame like F1 2020.
Yes also psvr GT Sport minus blurry
Finally someone actually made a good video about this topic
I believe the first time they ever used a helmet cam in F1 (I could be wrong on this) was in '94. There's footage from the Belgian Grand Prix of Mark Blundell's Tyrell doing qualifying with a helmet cam and considering it's '94 the quality is pretty decent
Think u right but thought 87 first year Japanese driver
What we all need is a Helmut cam tho
George russel's overtake in the monza sprint was so sick from the helmet cam
I totally want to see them implement two of these camera's in the helmet and broadcast/stream live 3D video that I can step into with my VR headset!
Interesting fact for all the people shocked that British TV is broadcast at 25fps and not 30fps. In the old days TV broadcast and reception were kept in sync by the frequency of the electricity grid, which would allow all equipment to stay synchronised without any manual tuning. In Britain and the rest of Europe the grid's AC runs at 50hz, while most of the rest of the world runs at 60hz. To double the resolution of images broadcast they would be interlaced, so one frame consists of every odd line, then the next would consist of every even line of the picture. In Europe this would mean you'd be getting 50 half frames a second (or 25 deinterlaced) and in America you'd get 60 half frames (or 30 deinterlaced). As technology has improved bit by bit in a sport mostly produced for European audiences, hardware has been gradually replaced leaving this remnant because it's not worth the effort of creating new complications during production. Nowadays, even though all broadcast is digital and all consumer hardware can play any sensible fps, the framerate stays at 25fps because there isn't actually any demand for higher framerates.
Damn that’s one good video, definitely earned a sub
This looks exactly like racing in VR only with 4 of the best video cards running at once :)
Quality information, thanks.
The mini display on the wheel should have a privacy filter with a narrow viewing angle so that the camera can't pick up the data
i got just one question: Why the hell F1 use the rollhoop camera offset to one side instead of having it centralize like the indycar camera?
Indycar uses a single motorized camera that can be spun by an operator to any direction. F1 uses two fixed cameras, one pointing forward and one backward.
@@AntiComposite in the past Indycar used to have one fixed camera on top of the rollhoop with two points of view, one pointing foward and other point back and the camera was centralized. The fix would not be something fancy, "just" turn the camera 90 degrees and problem solved
The steering display being public is nothing new. If you get an F1TV subscription, you can watch somebody's halo cam for the entire duration of the weekend and there are many amateurs who manage to transcribe stuff from the feed. It's not as if other teams are gaining any new data, this stuff has always been public
Very informational
Advances in image stabilization will be clutch.
To get rid of the screen in the video, why not just add a polarized lens. Usually blocks out screens
Thx for share.
The early "Driver's Eye" have a odd 2008-2012 video game vibe
Didn't you make a video where you interviewed the F1 podium handheld cam operator? I cannot find It anymore.
Why does the video end at 5:16 in the middle of the sentence? Or is it just me?
i think they had to remove the other part of the video for some reason
F1 wasn't using such a cameras, because of broadcasting limitation. This small devices had to be designed in such a way to transfer data despite all the interferences and distances on the track and also fight shere speed of cars.
This is what I was looking for,
A lot of people are saying it should be stabilised but that defeats the object of drivers eye. You’re experiencing what the driver is experiencing. The drivers head isn’t stabilised so stabilising the cam would defeat the object of it being there might as well just stick to using one on the roll hoop
Eyes act as stabilizer. My F1 video is stabilized and it looked the same as what I experienced
Wonder how long it will take for those cameras to integrate stabilising tech.
No one mentions Mark Blundells live broadcast helmet cam at Spa and Monza 1994....
I wish the cameras were stabilised
Thank you so much because I was so confused what was helmet camera
These small cams are still better than bank CCTV feeds
why is F1 onboard camera isnt centered?
great video
I've been wondering for some time why the radio and now the cameras in the helmets aren't connected to the car throughout bluetooth. I would think it would be preferable to have as few cables to undo as possible in case the driver needs to get out quickly. Any one have any idea why they don't do that?
And let’s not forget Mark Blundell running one in practice at Spa in 1993!
Why not used image stability? Ois or eis not using why?
Has a video show the details of the T shape cameras used on top of F1 cars?
So we'll only see visor cams from Mazespin, Gio, Kimi, George, Latifi, Pierre, Charles, Lando, Alonso, Ocon and Lewis. Loads of drivers but I'd like to see a Red Bull visor cam.
We'll obviously only see all those drivers visor cams(apart from George and Fernando) if the team agree to
Where can I find the clear T cam video
it would be perfect if both Lewis and Max had one for Abu Dhabi
This new helmet cam is revolutionary
lmao, so revolutionary that in CART/ChampCar Paul Tracey had one about 20 years ago, Long Beach Grand Prix in 2002.
They should put two in each helmet so you have a better view
good stuff
Please help! I know this is kind of unrelated but do you know of any racing helmets out now that are snell sa2015 or newer with built in cameras? Im going to xtremexperience and they dont allow gopros to be attached. I want to record the experience first person tho with at least 1080p quality
Not available to the public unfortunately!
*f1 discovers fpv drone tech*
Didnt they use the camera on leclerc or sains at abu Dhabi 2021 race
Yeah.Another one!
Russell has YT channel nice
in 2040 the F1 drivers will use contacts in their eyes that can broadcast it
stabilized video is their next milestone
Stabilised video ruined the onboard T cam. We want to see the vibrations and raw feeling of driving
@@jayan.varsani When driving the car you don't see the vibrations yourself, you only feel it because your eyes also act as stabilizers
Great just need 2 then we can a VR/3D view
I need a camera like that for my HTC VIVE PRO2 ...would be awesome....btw this really looks like i'm driving in VR.... LOL
Should have two cameras for VR.
why not use 2 cameras for stereo effect
Didn't George use this in qualy / the sprint race.
I’ve wondered why the helmet cam always looks so off centre. It’s only on one side of the helmet
Where can I download this mod?
I definitely did not consider the option to plant the camera into the drivers' head
HOW DID 3 MONTHS PASS SINCE SPA?!
Don't let this guy fool you it's a guy inside the helmet
Day 1 of asking Matt to play his AI Track on Assetto Corsa :)
We've come up with a camera so tiny it fits into this oversized novelty hat
i wonder what the reason is why the cameras originally were so poor. Id say since 2016 or 17, phone cameras have gotten good enough to be viable for stuff like this and those produce really nice quality. Well, for their size, at least. And with modern cameras being even better as well as image processing algorithms being good enough to "improve" things even better, why dont they just partner with Sony, Samsung or even apple for this
It needs far better OIS. I'm sure phone companies like Apple & Samsung would be able to come up with something markedly better.
Charles Leclerc used it live in Abu Dhabi
How F1 radio works ?
Jeez! Can you make TikTok of all these?🥴
To be fair, not good enough. I think Bell and the others should take up the RnD in this department, stabilized 4k is not that much to ask nowadays, but it looks worse than a vga webcam now.
If it were so easy, it would have already been there.
@@motorcycle-man I did it, kinda
1:10 WEEEEEEEEEEEE
the most interesting thing i learnt in this video is that UK people only watch tv in 25fps???
Dang everything in the UK is broadcast at 25 fps.... thats terrible.
Great video, it was getting annoying that F1 were doing an “Apple” and acting like they invented the technology.
Does no one think that the other teams can easily go and see what the other drivers are doing and seeing in there steering wheels which obviously isn't ideal!
Without watching the video if day the camera works in much the same way any other digital camera works.
am I the only one who focused on the lamp?
Where can I buy one of those cameras? It'd be perfect for my car 😂
I thought they just shoved a GoPro inside the helmet 😂
Ask phone manufacture or camera video manufacture to design it😂