He didn't join Blackbeard because he killed Absalom, the person he specifically came there to save, his friend, his nakama. Something you forgot to mention is that he genuinely cares about the human members of his crew, he literally adopted Perona
I find it so annoying people always overlook this since it fits perfectly with his backstory and shows that his new philosophy is kind of a front in that he still wants close friends.
FINNALY SOMEONE WITH GOOD SENSE !!! Moria retreated from the new world because of the shock of losing his crew Then he goes alone in black beard main base to get his friend's back, despite the danger, and people got the balls to say "nah he'll join the crew of the man who killed one of his last crew mate" Imagine if luffy joins the marine after akainu killed ace... it's the same
@@florian.c2327 I feel like Moria being attached to his crew should've been focused on more, maybe he could've heard that Absalom, Perona, and Hogback were defeated by the strawhats and instead of being mad at them for losing, we could see him being mad at the strawhats for hurting his nakama
Things I genuinely love about Moria: -His completely out-there design -His laugh -His insanely creative use of his devil fruit powers -The fact that he's one of the villains that actually care for the well-being of their crewmates, like when he came out all the way by himself to Blackbeard's hideout to get Absalom and got visibly shaken up to learn about his death. Likely a leftover from his Kaido-trauma. In turn, even Perona was overcome with joy after finding out he survived Marineford. -Serving as an ominous warning for the New World -Being the catalyst for one of my favorite fights in the entire series (Strawhats VS Oars & Moria) -👁 *_S H A D O W ' S A S G A R D_* 👁
It makes sense that Moria didn't join Blackbeard, he killed Absolom who he really cared about, you don't attack a yonko base for someone you don't care about.
@@orbboom6119 I thought that at the time but maybe Blackbeard doesn't have anyone worthwhile to give the fruit to so he's just keeping him captive until he needs it.
The question is, can black beard, swap devil fruit abilities when people are alive now he has become more accustomed to his fruit. Im wonderijg if he will give the 10th titanic captain that Fruit and swap then swamp one out @T-1001
it's because after they served their role as the evil antagonist of the current arc they then are allowed to have a personality, get character development, are shown to actually like their Crew or overall people around them and often have an actual nice side
I love the parallels between him and Kuma. Kuma has a small lower body and big upper body moria has a big lower body and small uppet body, both adopted a pink haired girl, both lost their love ones. Moria looks like a Demon while Kuma is more of the holy guy. Both seemingly died at marineford only to come back for their loved ones a few arcs later....
@@CloudWalkBeta yeah these things i realised one day whole working. I waited for THIS video to finally Share it with the world. Also yeah it sounds funny but its actually the truth. Like: if i had a nickle, everytime some warlord of the sea in one piece, with a very weird body type adopted a pink haired girl after their loved one(s) died, i'd have two nickles. Which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
One of my favorite things about Gecko Moria is that despite the trauma he went through losing all his friends/crew to Kaido, and despite taking measures to never let himself get attached to his crew again by using zombies, he can't help but still form close bonds with Absolom and Perona (and to a lesser extent Dr. Hogback), going as far as to march into a Yonko's territory once again just to get his friend back. To me this is surprisingly noble of Moria, and shows that deep down he is still a very passionate and caring person, even if he doesn't want to be one. I think Moria is a very good villain because he parallels what could have happened to Luffy if he had given up and choose to wallow in despair after losing his crew only one arc later.
Many UA-camrs have long running contracts, they can’t break without loosing a lot of money. Maybe he took the contract, before the criticism about better health blew up
@@ModestMolerats93 Probably in a contract that he has to make a certain number of ads. But this also isn't the first time.. I have vague memory of him promoting BetterHelp in the past, but unsure about this, but there also was the esteemed titles scam. Other sponsors too seem kinda weird.
Ever since Moria reappeared in the story, I've been so eager to see more of him. Knowing that he pretty much went through his own version of what Luffy did on Sabaody, with his crew/friends getting taken from him, makes me wish they would do a One Piece novel MORIA. Then again there are tons of characters I'd love to see novels for. But getting to learn more about Moria's crew, their journey and their eventual demise just seems like it'd make for some damn compelling reading.
My money's on him joining Cross Guild. That's where all the loose warlords seem to be ending up, and it'd be fitting for him to embrace his role as a jobber and help Buggy fail upwards to Pirate King. Not to mention all those strong Marine corpses waiting to have shadows stuffed in them.
Cross Guild is just becoming the Warlords 2.0. It makes sense though they all got betrayed by the Marines by having their position revoked and they know that alone they don't have a chance against the entirety of the Marines but together they are supposed to be a to be the the force necessary for the Marines to match the combined might of the Four emperors
I quite liked the thriller bARC and Moria in general. Kinda feel that Moria is just sunken deep into a semi-functional depression. Eating a lot, gaining weight, unable to find the energy or real desire to do much of anything, replacing those he lost with Zombies and such.
It's crazy how the world governament tried to get rid of the only warlord that was actually doing his job of taking down other pirates. Like Mihawk most of the time sleeps, the only one crew he stopped was Krieg's and even then it was actually Luffy that crushed his dreams, meanwhile right after being defeated by Mihawk Don Krieg immediately tried to get a new ship to continue his journey. Crocodile, Doflamingo and Hancock are busy doing their own things. The same you can say for later warlords like Law, Buggy and Teach. Jinbe is Jinbe and he does the exact of opposite of following orders. Other than Kuma the other two most efficient warlords were Moria and Weevil. Moria being a pirate with his ambitions already crushed by Kaido now crushes other pirates' dreams. Moria was the only warlord thar wasn't schemeing against the world governament, all he wanted was to make an army of zombies to take down Kaido, technically helping the world governament and the marines 😭
Even funnier is that Mihawk completely failed to stop Don Krieg - though obviously he didn't really care about that - because we saw a panel recently in the manga with Krieg, Gin, and Pearl all the way into the New World on Hachinose. Incredibly, Don Krieg came out of having his dreams crushed and went on to continue chasing them.
An interesting route Oda could've went with Moria would've been to make him more of a bounty hunter, and send the people he caught straight to Impel Down. It's like having an assurance that they will never break from prison, cause if they do they get in contact with the sun and die. In exchange for Moria, they will be in the shadows of the prison forever, so the shadows Moria collects never risk dying from the main body dying. Would've been an advantageous relationship for both Moria and the Government. The only problem tbf is that if he ever wanted to go against them they could've killed all the prisoners without shadows and vastly reduce his army. Mmm, maybe Moria did the right thing lol.
Part of me likes his desing. He is desinged after Vampire mythology, having his body shaped as an onion as is the most known vampire weakness. His power removes peoples shadows and makes them weak to sunlight, and zombies can be purified with salt which is also a weakness to vampires or dark spirits.
Better help is a scam, you probably didnt know and took the sponsor and its ok it happens but just so everyone knows if you need help DONT go to better help
Nah, he knows. There are dozens of comments on every single video of his with a better help sponsorship. He just doesnt care if they are unethical. Not bashing him or anything, we all need money, just saying that he's definitely aware at this point
It was probably his channel management company that did the add spot contract. And he is obligated to fulfill his agreements. I think alot of people got into better help put a stop to adds when it was shown it's a bad platform. And then they have all been twisted to finish the agreement or get sued.
@@Deathmare235 that’s not true though they just off screened him for time crunch it showed even clashes and off screened the rest of the fight but the warlord title was given to moriah for being one of kaido’s biggest rivals until his crew was wipped out moriah injured and he fled wanno with Ryuma and his sword yes this was a younger kaido but still
The fact that he was willing to not only re-face his new world traumas, but also DIRECTLY challenge the possible final boss of the series just to check up on one of his old crewmate was by far the most underrated moment of his character arc imo. For the entirety of the series he was written as a tragic luffy who lost all of his crew and seeing him slowly come back to his older self after having to face another loss really puts my hopes up for the future of his character.
Moria is like the most underrated One Piece antagonist alongside Don Krieg. And Moria is also underrated in the powerscaling department, too, because while him in the present was likely the weakest Warlord of the original 7, Moria in his prime was definitely one of the strongest Warlords as he once considered a rival to Kaido.
Moria is one of my favorite Villians because of how much he cares about his crew, obviously he lost his friends to Kaido which sent him on a depression arc but also on Hachinosu he went looking for absolam and when he found out one of his few friends had died he went on a rampage. Additionally Perona and Absolam both love Moria a lot so I think Moria is a good character, pretty fine Villian
Moria is a pendulum going from extreme independent ambition to complete dependent apathy, he's the cautionary tale that mirrors Luffy especially how they both faced Kaido in wano. People who struggle with motivation can greatly empathize with his experience and his weird bottom heavy visual design perfectly conveys the idleness that he is currently used to and I hope that when we see him again in the manga that he is in better shape with new found ambition as he left the florian triangle of his own will for a comrade and not because he was ordered to like at marine ford.
I feel that Moria fits perfectly at that point of the story, as he is a warning for what lies ahead for the Strawhats both in how strong those in the New World are as well as the mental fortitude required to become pirate king. We do see a glimpse of his prior ambition when he uses Shadow Asgard, showing that he is worthy of being a warlord. He is strong, stronger than Luffy even. But Moria loses because he lacks the will to truely fight. He still has his ambition, but it's like his crew: its a zombie version of it. Its reanimated as a misshapen reflection of what it once was. And something like that will never be enough.
same, i felt it kept the hype going that i got from enies lobby, and the hype just kept going even after with shabondy, impel and marinefod.... It was mad and addictive
Fun fact if gecko Moria wasn't so heartbroken about his lost friends the died in combat and kept working out and getting stronger with his future that combined with his zombie army he would have matched kaido
i finished one piece because i heard you talking about gecko morias backstory maybe 6 months ago, and it made me want to watch one piece because just this guys story alone was so good, and 6 months ago i started watching, and maybe around 1-2 months ago i finally caught up to the latest episodes.
Moria was also (obviously) inspired by dracula, a figure who is often characterised by the loss of a loved one and reborn with the obsession of this repressed feeling. This is reflected by his will essentially dying after losing his beloved crew and him trying to cope with it by creating immortal soldiers. Another thing I really like about his powers is how he essentially turns anyone who got their shadow stolen into a metaphorical version of himself. Pirates with no shadows need to give up on their wills and dreams to hide for the rest of their lives just like he does in the florian triangle in fear of loss.
And stop shadow raid legends you're better than that. Half time I stop watching people that sponser shadow raid legends but not you I still watch your stuff but my fav naruto not so much don't sell out be better.
@FHK_88 you ever tried raid shadow legends it's is the most blatant pay to win game I have ever seen played. And if there was all I wouldn't hate it but got the force the advertisements in your face so hard. It is a complete shit game and nobody who has played it really thinks otherwise so when UA-camrs talk about how awesome it is how great and they play blah blah blah just so ful of it.
I think the coolest thing that Moria is is that he is a shadow that Luffy could have been. Think about it: Luffy's biggest speeches was at Arlong saying "without my friends I can't be the Pirate King" and Moria spins that with "I literally can't do it without strong cremated so they can make me the Pirate King." Moria is a failed pirate who began a dark depressive state of mind and body but still hung on to his wants and desires, even if with the idea he doesn't physically have to. Moria is such a complex villain cause he is a dark view of those with high ambition meeting the harsh reality. And this is before we see he does care for his crew and still aims to fight for his dream in some form.
As the Funimation Dub put it, the self-proclaimed “Man who will become King of the Pirates without lifting a finger.” When I fans debating which deadly sins each warlord embodies, I cannot be swayed to think of Moria as anything other than the living representation of sloth - made all the more tragic by the fact that he slumped into it after failing and losing his crew at a time when he ambition and drive.
@@darthmalagus LOL. Hey Guys this guy is going to unsub cause the sponsor sucks....wtf man, who cares? Why does everyone act so special these days, unsub, shut up and be done with it. Imagine some people just watch the videos and ignore sponsors anyway.
Another point of comparison between Moria and Luffy is that quote you used, "Why do anything myself when I can have people stronger than me do things for me". That contrasts Luffy's belief that his crew can do the things he can't do, so Luffy's role is to do the things that the others can't do.
Every main antagonist is designed to counter an aspect of Luffy. Luffy is motivated to help his friends, so they can achieve their dreams. Moria wants others to achieve his dream for him because he failed; directly countering Luffy.
In my own personal head cannon, Kaido is the reason Gekko has all those permanent stitches. He (literally) beats Gekko’s head in, leaving him all but dead until he uses his fruit to barely escape. Side note: what if Gekko himself is a zombie and his fruit is keeping him alive on its own 👀
Imagine if Moria, instead of putting every shadow he acquired into a zombie. Absorbed it himself 1 by 1. He’d actually be a genuine threat after he acquired all those he used for Shadow Asgard
you might want to redo this video after moria story post blackbeard encounter, where he rediscover his passion for becoming a pirate and when he eventually plays a major role in the final arc
I have see two (and a half) follow ons from Moira's story. 1. Moria Himself is now out and about(presumably) and alot of people seem to want him to be a cross guild member, however possible. 2 . Moria's clone 'S-Gecko' (I don't think theres a canon name yet) is theoretically Moria but without such trauma/ laziness with a Paramecia power so that could be a 'rematch' for Luffy. 3. Finally And I whole heartedly doubt this one would come true, it would be interesting to see if one of the worst generation e.g Apoo or Kid, will end up like Gecko Moria, a washed up pirate (alternatively they could become Crocodiles) as a repeating cycle.
Isn’t better health getting investigated because of leaking sensitive information… I don’t know man DraftKings you should’ve picked another sponsor bromigo
You either die as a hero like luffy or u live long enough to see urswlf become gecko moria😢 i hope he returns and he gets even stronger i like how he cares about his crew
Moria didn't join Blackbeard because of what he did to Absalom. Moria parallels Luffy in that way, as well. He cares for his friends, more than anything. It's WHY he gave up on his dream, he lost literally everyone he cared about and decided that he would never feel that loss again. That's why he mostly surrounds himself with shadows, and there's only three actual people he's close to. Moria would never join Blackbeard after he killed Absalom, because to hurt his friends is unforgivable.
Not sure whether you know this, but UA-cam isn’t all that saintly either. And, while I don’t know anything about you, I wouldn’t look to far into any of the companies that produce your food, your clothes, your phone, the fuel for your car, etc. It’s a tough pill to swallow, I know. Your morals are only good for making thoughtful, empathetic, or neurotic people feel bad. Everybody else just goes on with their day.
@@guypanton8341 kinda sounds like you're saying "Everything sucks, so let's not say anything." obviously if you look deep enough into ANYTHING it's going to suck, but some things are plainly on the surface(like better help). The idea of not calling something bad just because there's other bad things is kinda a crazy stance to take
@sonicducktheinoccent I did mention that it’s a tough pill to swallow. Look, to whatever extent things suck, we’re all a party to it. And you don’t have to go deep. If you buy an iPhone or a pair of Nikes, you participate in the suck as much as most people. It’s from this perspective that any one person ought to call out any other for their participation in the suck, I think-see, I do morality, too. So, if you want to call a company bad, go ahead. But, when calling Liam out for the way in which he supports that company, I think some people ought to be a little more careful and try to put his actions into their proper context.
His backstory is similar to crocodile, but crocodile got stronger from his loss instead of weaker. Crocodile lost to Whitebeard and Moria lost to kaido. Both didn’t want to become the Pirate king anymore, but they still had ambitions. For example crocodile didn’t want to be a pirate king anymore, but wanted to become the king of the world
Loved Gecko Moria from the beginning. He is a great character, a shadow of a man, controlling shadows, while in the shadows. Him and Bellamy stuck with me hard from the get go Which is why I developed a bit of hatred for Doflamingo. First he goes after Bellamy, then Moria, then Bellamy again
@@swordbro1388I care. If there weren’t so many of these comments about how bad better help is then I wouldn’t have looked into it and seen that it’s clearly a scam that decent people shouldn’t do business with. A seemingly significant chunk of Liam’s audience looks to feel that way, so surely it’s a good thing that they’re letting him know.
Ok, why should we know that? He got a view anyway since you've clicked on this video and watched more than 2 or 3 minutes of it, so it doesn't really matter
Warlords are warlords for a reason they all have skills and abilities the government deems a huge threat, even someone as weak as Gecko Moria. If utilized on the battlefield correctly he can turn your numbers against you. All those dead fodder soldiers and pirates can be reanimated by his abilities.
Hi Liam I have a question how is a Pirate Crew travelling backwards on the grandline considering that the log pose just points to the next island is it only possible with eternal poses and vivre cards?
Moria is a character who can do plenty, but refuses and instead relies fully on others. This has always taken me back to Arlong Park, where Luffy tells Arlong all the things he can't do by himself. Luffy can't achieve lots of things, but he does what he can at every opportunity
Some people do still boil him down to "ermagerd laugh annoying", but Moria is honestly one of (if not the most) tragic villains of the series. But you gotta admire that while his methods may have changed, he is still intent on being King of the Pirates and cares deeply for his crew (past and current). I really like that he tells Luffy from experience that he isn't ready and literally the next arc, Luffy loses his crew, proving Moria right.
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That is a lot of assumptions on Moria getting away from Teach during Garp's attack. I mean, the guy is the embodiment of Sloth, which seems to be the real theme of the Seven Warlords, the Seven Deadly Sins. Really, the best thing about and to come out of Thriller Bark was Perona.
I think people seem to oversee the simularity between crocodile and Moria. Both in their youth were strong rectless rookies, kinda like the supernovas back then in sabaody. And when they joined the new world they both did the eustass captain kid, ran their head into 1 emperor and both got decimated and barely escaped. And after that both are in a way depressed and thought "nah mate, i cant do this on my own". So Moria started using zombies to never lose his friends again and crocodile searches for the ancient weapon because he sees no other way to defeat whitebeard. And i kinda like them both for them, thats kinda realistic
Gecko Moria is like a shadow of Luffy, when Moria lost his crew on wano he abandoned his pirate life, but when Luffy lost his crew in sabaody he decided to train and become stronger
I think the most interesting thing about Gecko Moria is the fact that for a guy who swore off of bonds of friendship and wanted to resort entirely to disposable underlings, he *still* wound up with three crew members who are genuine friends and companions. Hogback and Absalom saved him in Marineford, something which would never have happened if Moria had truly given up companionship and friends. And then there's Perona, who seems to legitimately think of him as her father figure. Moria *tried* to give up on friends after what Kaido did to him. But he couldn't quite do it and wound up with Hogback, Perona, and Absalom. And then when one of his friends is in danger, Moria goes on the warpath without hesitation to try and save him, even confronting *another* of the Four Emperors. I kind of wonder what would have happened if Moria hadn't been depleted so heavily by Luffy before confronting BB. If nothing else, Shadows Asgard could *literally* destroy the entire island as well as the dude controlling it.
I like how oda made kaido the one to really end Moria’s dreams. Like oda was trying to tell us that a gecko was beaten by a dragon, the dragons the real reptile we need to worry about
"Invisible human, ghost human, Shadow Master, all of them have powers that trick people. I don't think they'll ever give Luffy a fair flight" Zoro says this in the 11th hour and to me it's one of a long line of insanely important moments at the end of Thriller Bark. Say what you will, but the climax of this arc was peak.
well, the fact that Moria was one of the best decks in the TCG for a while when set 6 dropped in japan and worldwide, made me gain a bit more respect for the man
Fun fact: Gecko Moria is almost certainly Oda's response to Baron Omatsuri from Movie 6. He doesn't like horror at all, but even Oda had to admit the Baron's powers, threat to the Straw Hats, and theming were so relevant and crucial to the spirit of One Piece that Oda made a "corrected" version of the non-canon antagonist in canon and retroactively honored him by giving a seat as a Warlord. Clearly, Oda wanted to emphasize that any horror in One piece should be fun. Movie 6 probably genuinely disturbed and scared Oda too much to ever be canon, if Question Corner is any indication.
An interesting piece of trivia that most people don't seem to be aware of is that Jinbe and Moria have the same (JP) voice actor! I love both of their voices. Thriller Bark is my favourite arc overall. It had amazing pre-timeskip comedy, good pacing even in the anime, and Moria is such an interesting contrast to Luffy in terms of ambition. I really really want him to encounter Luffy again, and just do a full double-page spread of "HUHHHH???" in response to Luffy likely casually mentioning that he beat Kaido.
I have an idea for a video Man On The Internet, a What-If video. So we’ll explore how things would’ve gone down if: 1. Luffy went to Winners Island, Law went to Elbaph, and Kidd went to Egghead 2. Luffy went to Elbaph, Law went to Egghead and Kidd went to Winners Island. How do you think these scenarios would work?
2:44- plus compared to all of the other Warlords with the exception of Weevil and Buggy (I’m sorry to our savior for saying this)- Moria lacks that conventional cool factor like he’s the odd one out- especially compared to Crocodile and Mihawk
Honestly, I wish Moria had come later on in the story, cuz then we might've explored his past and feelings more. Being a man broken by lost intrigues me as a fellow man afraid of/heavily affected by loss.
I’ve noticed something he has a basic set up for every single title card he uses. He just changes it up every single one is a person pulling holding something right in front of them with their right hand I mean not every single one it gets changed sometimes, but he uses it a lot. Nothing wrong with that I just think it’s cool
Moria is one of my favorite antagonists just because of his aesthetics alone. He was someone that went toe to toe with Kaidou in his prime, but we didn't meet him in his prime. We met him as a traumatized shell of a man after watching all his nakama get slaughtered. But he still never stopped moving forward, ironically enough. He came up with this batshit insane plan no one else would have thought of, much less put into motion. And even though the entire point was to avoid forming new emotional attachments, he still made three new nakama along the way. The thing is that it still wasn't enough. Not only did Luffy take him down, but the whole zombie apocalypse thing would never have worked in the New World where everyone and their mother has haki and even his strongest zombies would still be OHKOd by sea salt. Moria was out of shape and out of practice, which became painfully obvious in the Marineford war. The whole thing on Hachinosu is interesting because the Blackbeard Pirates could have killed him and ended his character arc along with his life. But instead, we got him refusing to submit because of what they did to Absalom, his nakama. We're not done with Moria. It might not even be crazy to think he's going to get his groove back when he does return again. I wish we got to know more of his backstory because if he only started doing the zombie thing post-Kaidou, why did he steal Ryuma's corpse in Wano? At what point in his career did he realize he could even do that with shadows? He does not get enough credit for his sheer creativity with his devil fruit. The way he uses it, he's basically a budget Big Mom. In fact, when we met Pound on Whole Cake Island and he told us about the Soru Soru no Mi, he specifically mentioned Big Mom couldn't bring corpses to life with it. Which is a very strange thing for someone to just say unprompted. Interesting to note that his Seraphim clone takes after his old appearance. I think when we see S-Gecko in action, Luffy is going to write it off as a weakling and get incredibly surprised.
I think it’s important to remember that when a character gets fully fleshed out later in a story, it’s simply more exciting to see them come around again during a reread/rewatch. As soon as they’re introduced, YOU already know who they are, and their actions can be properly appreciated with that knowledge of them now in mind. While it may have made more sense to flesh out Moria during HIS arc, it’s not necessarily a PROBLEM because it may surely help us understand the character’s actions better during our rereads, making Thriller Bark as an arc all the more exciting for Moria fans who want to dig deep into his character.
He didn't join Blackbeard because he killed Absalom, the person he specifically came there to save, his friend, his nakama.
Something you forgot to mention is that he genuinely cares about the human members of his crew, he literally adopted Perona
Rip pervy Absalom
@FHK_88 no more play on words phrases like Absalom calling Hogback "Dr Harshback".
I find it so annoying people always overlook this since it fits perfectly with his backstory and shows that his new philosophy is kind of a front in that he still wants close friends.
FINNALY SOMEONE WITH GOOD SENSE !!!
Moria retreated from the new world because of the shock of losing his crew
Then he goes alone in black beard main base to get his friend's back, despite the danger, and people got the balls to say "nah he'll join the crew of the man who killed one of his last crew mate"
Imagine if luffy joins the marine after akainu killed ace... it's the same
@@florian.c2327 I feel like Moria being attached to his crew should've been focused on more, maybe he could've heard that Absalom, Perona, and Hogback were defeated by the strawhats and instead of being mad at them for losing, we could see him being mad at the strawhats for hurting his nakama
Things I genuinely love about Moria:
-His completely out-there design
-His laugh
-His insanely creative use of his devil fruit powers
-The fact that he's one of the villains that actually care for the well-being of their crewmates, like when he came out all the way by himself to Blackbeard's hideout to get Absalom and got visibly shaken up to learn about his death. Likely a leftover from his Kaido-trauma.
In turn, even Perona was overcome with joy after finding out he survived Marineford.
-Serving as an ominous warning for the New World
-Being the catalyst for one of my favorite fights in the entire series (Strawhats VS Oars & Moria)
-👁 *_S H A D O W ' S A S G A R D_* 👁
He also inspires a lot of loyalty in his crew. Best girl Perona's endorsement means a lot.
that shadows asgard panel does go hard as fuck
@@MrWhatdafuBOOM Heck yeah. You’ve got great taste
Kishishishishishishi 😈
I also think Luffy came close to ending up like him after Marineford and was only saved by Jinbe
It makes sense that Moria didn't join Blackbeard, he killed Absolom who he really cared about, you don't attack a yonko base for someone you don't care about.
Im surprised they didnt just kill him and take his fruit, that shadow fruit would be mad useful.
@@orbboom6119 I thought that at the time but maybe Blackbeard doesn't have anyone worthwhile to give the fruit to so he's just keeping him captive until he needs it.
@@T-1001 yeah good point
Or well now that we know don krieg is in his crew😂BB could give it to him
@@orbboom6119 I think I missed that!
The question is, can black beard, swap devil fruit abilities when people are alive now he has become more accustomed to his fruit. Im wonderijg if he will give the 10th titanic captain that Fruit and swap then swamp one out @T-1001
Gecko Moria is one of those characters who wasn't well liked when he debuted, but has become much more interesting with what we know now.
like Buggy, and pretty much anyone in one piece. Mr 3 as well.
it's because after they served their role as the evil antagonist of the current arc they then are allowed to have a personality, get character development, are shown to actually like their Crew or overall people around them and often have an actual nice side
The more we knew the more he resembles kaido.
•lazy/ depression
•furries/zomby
•free labour
• got isles for themself ( ship )
•
As if he took notes from kaido after losing to him 😅
Especially after he went to square up with Blackbeard for his boy
I love the parallels between him and Kuma.
Kuma has a small lower body and big upper body moria has a big lower body and small uppet body, both adopted a pink haired girl, both lost their love ones. Moria looks like a Demon while Kuma is more of the holy guy. Both seemingly died at marineford only to come back for their loved ones a few arcs later....
my GOD you pointed out for more to Moria than i had ever considered , loved the "both adopted pink hair girls" point XD
@@CloudWalkBeta yeah these things i realised one day whole working. I waited for THIS video to finally Share it with the world.
Also yeah it sounds funny but its actually the truth. Like: if i had a nickle, everytime some warlord of the sea in one piece, with a very weird body type adopted a pink haired girl after their loved one(s) died, i'd have two nickles. Which isnt a lot but its weird that it happened twice.
Moria has parallel with pretty much everyone in thriller bark. He has parallels with luffy, kaido, brook, and, as mentioned, kuma.
One of my favorite things about Gecko Moria is that despite the trauma he went through losing all his friends/crew to Kaido, and despite taking measures to never let himself get attached to his crew again by using zombies, he can't help but still form close bonds with Absolom and Perona (and to a lesser extent Dr. Hogback), going as far as to march into a Yonko's territory once again just to get his friend back. To me this is surprisingly noble of Moria, and shows that deep down he is still a very passionate and caring person, even if he doesn't want to be one. I think Moria is a very good villain because he parallels what could have happened to Luffy if he had given up and choose to wallow in despair after losing his crew only one arc later.
Better help should have there own video in this series
FYI better help is a notoriously unethical company.
I have a feeling he doesn’t care lol
Thanks
Many UA-camrs have long running contracts, they can’t break without loosing a lot of money.
Maybe he took the contract, before the criticism about better health blew up
@@ModestMolerats93 Probably in a contract that he has to make a certain number of ads. But this also isn't the first time.. I have vague memory of him promoting BetterHelp in the past, but unsure about this, but there also was the esteemed titles scam. Other sponsors too seem kinda weird.
@@Colaschnittchen A 6 year contract seems a little far fetched.
Yeah man, since everyone's pointing it out and I have also wanted to say this for a long time, Better Help is a bad company.
Ever since Moria reappeared in the story, I've been so eager to see more of him. Knowing that he pretty much went through his own version of what Luffy did on Sabaody, with his crew/friends getting taken from him, makes me wish they would do a One Piece novel MORIA. Then again there are tons of characters I'd love to see novels for. But getting to learn more about Moria's crew, their journey and their eventual demise just seems like it'd make for some damn compelling reading.
My money's on him joining Cross Guild. That's where all the loose warlords seem to be ending up, and it'd be fitting for him to embrace his role as a jobber and help Buggy fail upwards to Pirate King. Not to mention all those strong Marine corpses waiting to have shadows stuffed in them.
Cross Guild is just becoming the Warlords 2.0. It makes sense though they all got betrayed by the Marines by having their position revoked and they know that alone they don't have a chance against the entirety of the Marines but together they are supposed to be a to be the the force necessary for the Marines to match the combined might of the Four emperors
Isnt he dead?
Fail? What makes you say Buggy will not successfully become King of the Pirates?
@@BillyKing21 mihawk is carrying the crew (:
Either crossguild or swords
I quite liked the thriller bARC and Moria in general.
Kinda feel that Moria is just sunken deep into a semi-functional depression. Eating a lot, gaining weight, unable to find the energy or real desire to do much of anything, replacing those he lost with Zombies and such.
It's crazy how the world governament tried to get rid of the only warlord that was actually doing his job of taking down other pirates. Like Mihawk most of the time sleeps, the only one crew he stopped was Krieg's and even then it was actually Luffy that crushed his dreams, meanwhile right after being defeated by Mihawk Don Krieg immediately tried to get a new ship to continue his journey. Crocodile, Doflamingo and Hancock are busy doing their own things. The same you can say for later warlords like Law, Buggy and Teach. Jinbe is Jinbe and he does the exact of opposite of following orders. Other than Kuma the other two most efficient warlords were Moria and Weevil. Moria being a pirate with his ambitions already crushed by Kaido now crushes other pirates' dreams. Moria was the only warlord thar wasn't schemeing against the world governament, all he wanted was to make an army of zombies to take down Kaido, technically helping the world governament and the marines 😭
Even funnier is that Mihawk completely failed to stop Don Krieg - though obviously he didn't really care about that - because we saw a panel recently in the manga with Krieg, Gin, and Pearl all the way into the New World on Hachinose.
Incredibly, Don Krieg came out of having his dreams crushed and went on to continue chasing them.
An interesting route Oda could've went with Moria would've been to make him more of a bounty hunter, and send the people he caught straight to Impel Down. It's like having an assurance that they will never break from prison, cause if they do they get in contact with the sun and die. In exchange for Moria, they will be in the shadows of the prison forever, so the shadows Moria collects never risk dying from the main body dying. Would've been an advantageous relationship for both Moria and the Government.
The only problem tbf is that if he ever wanted to go against them they could've killed all the prisoners without shadows and vastly reduce his army.
Mmm, maybe Moria did the right thing lol.
@@just_a_folk95what was the right thing?
@@Deathmare235 Not giving the pirates who he stole the shadow from to the WG (impel down) as they could've wiped his entire army if he crossed them.
Better help is unprofessional.
aye man bread is bread, gotta respect the hustle
@@bigbullets8483not if it's promoting a company that preys on his viewers
@@bigbullets8483so you respect scammers and thiefs as well?
@@Goldfish_1313 i said i respect the hustle, not that i respect better help, theres a diffrence.
@@Goldfish_1313to a degree yes lol this world is founded by thieves
Finally that one guy in the comments asking for a gecko moria video will be happy
I commented the same thing 🤣. That guy’s been asking for so long 😂
I came here to say it myself 😂👏 happy he finally gets closure.
That was my first thought. He's been asking for so long 😅
Hi
😂😂😂😂😂 I saw the title and thought of that same dude 🤣
Part of me likes his desing. He is desinged after Vampire mythology, having his body shaped as an onion as is the most known vampire weakness. His power removes peoples shadows and makes them weak to sunlight, and zombies can be purified with salt which is also a weakness to vampires or dark spirits.
I think you’re thinking of garlic. Different plant.
Better help is a scam, you probably didnt know and took the sponsor and its ok it happens but just so everyone knows if you need help DONT go to better help
Nah, he knows. There are dozens of comments on every single video of his with a better help sponsorship. He just doesnt care if they are unethical. Not bashing him or anything, we all need money, just saying that he's definitely aware at this point
@@young-salt I hope it's a long term contract that he won't re sign once it's over
@@young-salt I think he's bound by a contract for X number of ads. It was the same thing with the tree Scottish tree title company as well.
It was probably his channel management company that did the add spot contract. And he is obligated to fulfill his agreements.
I think alot of people got into better help put a stop to adds when it was shown it's a bad platform. And then they have all been twisted to finish the agreement or get sued.
@@young-saltI hoping it’s cause of a contract that he keeps shouting them out
Liam finally talks about Gecko Moria..i can sleep happy now.
You copied this comment word for word, character for character. I saw the original comment posted 5 hours before you.
@@daynearmstrong 😂
Also though its not entirely Moria himself, I have high hopes that S-bat could show us some ways Moria could of been fighting,
Yeah, that's intriguing
Yes because Moriah scales about the same as law or right below oden in his prime was how he was built up
Exactly!!
@@shannonhoenig873morioh got destroyed by Kaido relax
@@Deathmare235 that’s not true though they just off screened him for time crunch it showed even clashes and off screened the rest of the fight but the warlord title was given to moriah for being one of kaido’s biggest rivals until his crew was wipped out moriah injured and he fled wanno with Ryuma and his sword yes this was a younger kaido but still
Moria was the only Warlord doin his fuckin job with no ulterior motives against The Navy/WG and they did everything to fuck him over.
The fact that he was willing to not only re-face his new world traumas, but also DIRECTLY challenge the possible final boss of the series just to check up on one of his old crewmate was by far the most underrated moment of his character arc imo. For the entirety of the series he was written as a tragic luffy who lost all of his crew and seeing him slowly come back to his older self after having to face another loss really puts my hopes up for the future of his character.
Moria is like the most underrated One Piece antagonist alongside Don Krieg. And Moria is also underrated in the powerscaling department, too, because while him in the present was likely the weakest Warlord of the original 7, Moria in his prime was definitely one of the strongest Warlords as he once considered a rival to Kaido.
to add to you, i would still consider him stronger than the supernovas too. As in he was more of a handful to kaido than Law or Kid were.
Moria is one of my favorite Villians because of how much he cares about his crew, obviously he lost his friends to Kaido which sent him on a depression arc but also on Hachinosu he went looking for absolam and when he found out one of his few friends had died he went on a rampage. Additionally Perona and Absolam both love Moria a lot so I think Moria is a good character, pretty fine Villian
Few of his friends?
@murderman8578 "one of his few friends" I was referring to absolam dying and his other friends are Hogback and Perona
Moria is a pendulum going from extreme independent ambition to complete dependent apathy, he's the cautionary tale that mirrors Luffy especially how they both faced Kaido in wano. People who struggle with motivation can greatly empathize with his experience and his weird bottom heavy visual design perfectly conveys the idleness that he is currently used to and I hope that when we see him again in the manga that he is in better shape with new found ambition as he left the florian triangle of his own will for a comrade and not because he was ordered to like at marine ford.
I still love Thriller Park, as it is one of the most comedic arcs in the series. It was also a perfect breather arc between two huge emotional arcs.
FINALLY, THE GECKO MORIA VIDEO!!!
YEEEEES LEEEETS GOOOOOOO MY GOAT IS FINALLY HERE THANK YOU LIAM SORRY FOR EVER DOUBTING YOU
You fight on the side of truth
YEESSSS IM NOT EVAN JOKING I LOVE HIM
⭐Gecko Moria
He only gave our goat a C we need to rise up😤
@@oompa1274 we must not, we’ll prove him wrong once Gecko D. Moria becomes the pirate king
I feel that Moria fits perfectly at that point of the story, as he is a warning for what lies ahead for the Strawhats both in how strong those in the New World are as well as the mental fortitude required to become pirate king.
We do see a glimpse of his prior ambition when he uses Shadow Asgard, showing that he is worthy of being a warlord. He is strong, stronger than Luffy even. But Moria loses because he lacks the will to truely fight. He still has his ambition, but it's like his crew: its a zombie version of it. Its reanimated as a misshapen reflection of what it once was. And something like that will never be enough.
Thriller bark is one of my favorite arcs. I was laughing throughout the whole island. Loved it.
same, i felt it kept the hype going that i got from enies lobby, and the hype just kept going even after with shabondy, impel and marinefod.... It was mad and addictive
You two need... better help
i loveeed it
Fun fact if gecko Moria wasn't so heartbroken about his lost friends the died in combat and kept working out and getting stronger with his future that combined with his zombie army he would have matched kaido
i finished one piece because i heard you talking about gecko morias backstory maybe 6 months ago, and it made me want to watch one piece because just this guys story alone was so good, and 6 months ago i started watching, and maybe around 1-2 months ago i finally caught up to the latest episodes.
Moria was also (obviously) inspired by dracula, a figure who is often characterised by the loss of a loved one and reborn with the obsession of this repressed feeling. This is reflected by his will essentially dying after losing his beloved crew and him trying to cope with it by creating immortal soldiers.
Another thing I really like about his powers is how he essentially turns anyone who got their shadow stolen into a metaphorical version of himself. Pirates with no shadows need to give up on their wills and dreams to hide for the rest of their lives just like he does in the florian triangle in fear of loss.
Non ironicly Moria was always one of my favorites
Liam please stop sponsoring betterhelp
Isn't it the other way around?
@@FHK_88 yeah but the message got across
And stop shadow raid legends you're better than that. Half time I stop watching people that sponser shadow raid legends but not you I still watch your stuff but my fav naruto not so much don't sell out be better.
@@devonmeily9748 what about shadow raid legends?
@FHK_88 you ever tried raid shadow legends it's is the most blatant pay to win game I have ever seen played. And if there was all I wouldn't hate it but got the force the advertisements in your face so hard. It is a complete shit game and nobody who has played it really thinks otherwise so when UA-camrs talk about how awesome it is how great and they play blah blah blah just so ful of it.
I think Moria was the closest we came to seeing an awakened paramecia devil fruit until Doflamingo
I think the coolest thing that Moria is is that he is a shadow that Luffy could have been. Think about it: Luffy's biggest speeches was at Arlong saying "without my friends I can't be the Pirate King" and Moria spins that with "I literally can't do it without strong cremated so they can make me the Pirate King." Moria is a failed pirate who began a dark depressive state of mind and body but still hung on to his wants and desires, even if with the idea he doesn't physically have to.
Moria is such a complex villain cause he is a dark view of those with high ambition meeting the harsh reality. And this is before we see he does care for his crew and still aims to fight for his dream in some form.
As the Funimation Dub put it, the self-proclaimed “Man who will become King of the Pirates without lifting a finger.” When I fans debating which deadly sins each warlord embodies, I cannot be swayed to think of Moria as anything other than the living representation of sloth - made all the more tragic by the fact that he slumped into it after failing and losing his crew at a time when he ambition and drive.
Maybe Moria isn't right for One Piece's world but he would THRIVE on Westeros
Man you gotta stop accepting BetterHelp sponsorships
Yeah im thinking i may have to unsub.
@@darthmalagusdo so then
@@tyreecampbell534 in trying to be fair but its coming to the point of "when is it enough time".
Why?
@@darthmalagus LOL. Hey Guys this guy is going to unsub cause the sponsor sucks....wtf man, who cares?
Why does everyone act so special these days, unsub, shut up and be done with it.
Imagine some people just watch the videos and ignore sponsors anyway.
Another point of comparison between Moria and Luffy is that quote you used, "Why do anything myself when I can have people stronger than me do things for me". That contrasts Luffy's belief that his crew can do the things he can't do, so Luffy's role is to do the things that the others can't do.
Not only Moria is Grand Line's Don Krieg, both their arcs ended with a sudden warlord intrusion Zoro had to deal with. Go figure.
Every main antagonist is designed to counter an aspect of Luffy. Luffy is motivated to help his friends, so they can achieve their dreams. Moria wants others to achieve his dream for him because he failed; directly countering Luffy.
Mate I think you need to be even more careful with your sponsors
Gecko Moria, I love you.
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He was able to escape from Doflamingo and a squad of pacifistas, too. That's impressive.
In my own personal head cannon, Kaido is the reason Gekko has all those permanent stitches. He (literally) beats Gekko’s head in, leaving him all but dead until he uses his fruit to barely escape.
Side note: what if Gekko himself is a zombie and his fruit is keeping him alive on its own 👀
Liam finally talks about Gecko Moria..i can sleep happy now
Cleo-h3x literally stole this comment down to the last character and it has more likes than yours
Imagine if Moria, instead of putting every shadow he acquired into a zombie. Absorbed it himself 1 by 1. He’d actually be a genuine threat after he acquired all those he used for Shadow Asgard
you might want to redo this video after moria story post blackbeard encounter, where he rediscover his passion for becoming a pirate and when he eventually plays a major role in the final arc
Interesting that he mixed so many zombies with animals after losing to Kaido. Like he was imagining that power for himself
I love how you say you choose sponsors very carefully and then are sponsored by better help 😅😂
"I choose my sponsors carefully!"
*chooses an insanely unethical sponsor that's been exposed multiple times in the past*
What's bad about better help?
@@theodorejenkins6066data privacy, unlicensed therapists, predatory pricing the list goes on.
@@theodorejenkins6066facts someone needs to put me on
@@theodorejenkins6066theyve gotten people killed with their negligent untrained self appointed therapists.
I have see two (and a half) follow ons from Moira's story.
1. Moria Himself is now out and about(presumably) and alot of people seem to want him to be a cross guild member, however possible.
2 . Moria's clone 'S-Gecko' (I don't think theres a canon name yet) is theoretically Moria but without such trauma/ laziness with a Paramecia power so that could be a 'rematch' for Luffy.
3. Finally And I whole heartedly doubt this one would come true, it would be interesting to see if one of the worst generation e.g Apoo or Kid, will end up like Gecko Moria, a washed up pirate (alternatively they could become Crocodiles) as a repeating cycle.
Isn’t better health getting investigated because of leaking sensitive information… I don’t know man DraftKings you should’ve picked another sponsor bromigo
I think the silliest part of his plan was when he though all he needed was Luffy's shadow to go take on Kaido.
Its time for my king Gecko Moria!
You either die as a hero like luffy or u live long enough to see urswlf become gecko moria😢 i hope he returns and he gets even stronger i like how he cares about his crew
Better Help is a scam.
Moria didn't join Blackbeard because of what he did to Absalom. Moria parallels Luffy in that way, as well. He cares for his friends, more than anything. It's WHY he gave up on his dream, he lost literally everyone he cared about and decided that he would never feel that loss again. That's why he mostly surrounds himself with shadows, and there's only three actual people he's close to. Moria would never join Blackbeard after he killed Absalom, because to hurt his friends is unforgivable.
I get genuinly dissapointed when GLR has better help as a sponsor
like he reads comments, he has to know theyre evil at this point.
Not sure whether you know this, but UA-cam isn’t all that saintly either. And, while I don’t know anything about you, I wouldn’t look to far into any of the companies that produce your food, your clothes, your phone, the fuel for your car, etc. It’s a tough pill to swallow, I know. Your morals are only good for making thoughtful, empathetic, or neurotic people feel bad. Everybody else just goes on with their day.
*too far
He might just be locked behind a contract for a certain amount of ads before the contract is done
@@guypanton8341 kinda sounds like you're saying "Everything sucks, so let's not say anything."
obviously if you look deep enough into ANYTHING it's going to suck, but some things are plainly on the surface(like better help). The idea of not calling something bad just because there's other bad things is kinda a crazy stance to take
@sonicducktheinoccent I did mention that it’s a tough pill to swallow. Look, to whatever extent things suck, we’re all a party to it. And you don’t have to go deep. If you buy an iPhone or a pair of Nikes, you participate in the suck as much as most people. It’s from this perspective that any one person ought to call out any other for their participation in the suck, I think-see, I do morality, too. So, if you want to call a company bad, go ahead. But, when calling Liam out for the way in which he supports that company, I think some people ought to be a little more careful and try to put his actions into their proper context.
His backstory is similar to crocodile, but crocodile got stronger from his loss instead of weaker. Crocodile lost to Whitebeard and Moria lost to kaido. Both didn’t want to become the Pirate king anymore, but they still had ambitions. For example crocodile didn’t want to be a pirate king anymore, but wanted to become the king of the world
Bro not putting Moria in at least b tier just pissed me off
IKR
@@qignon ye, Moria has rights
Justice for Moria!
@@palkinator YES
@@becktrovato6737 B for Brick Bat
Moria has a VERY lethal fruit too. Just go out at noon, and rip the shadow away from your target.
Guys everyone comments about how awful better help is Everytime it pays him
He does not care
Or he's in a contract.
Keep calling better help out some new people don't get got.
the comments surely ramp up the engagement xD
Gorlock the destroyer is a "human;" but you can tell when you look at their "design" that theirs was a tragic tale.
I'd love to hear about Foxy of the Foxy Pirates next.
Loved Gecko Moria from the beginning. He is a great character, a shadow of a man, controlling shadows, while in the shadows. Him and Bellamy stuck with me hard from the get go
Which is why I developed a bit of hatred for Doflamingo. First he goes after Bellamy, then Moria, then Bellamy again
doflamingo is very hateable, to be fair. i also like moria and bellamy
Better Help is gross.
Foxy might be a fun follow up given he’s managed to survive so long despite being ostensibly less competent
Sorry but i can't watch this video if it's sponsered by better help
Then don’t literally no one cares like goddamn bro how weak are you? That’s kind of a crybaby mindset. I’m gonna be for real man.
@@swordbro1388 sorry for not liking scammy buisness
@@swordbro1388I care. If there weren’t so many of these comments about how bad better help is then I wouldn’t have looked into it and seen that it’s clearly a scam that decent people shouldn’t do business with. A seemingly significant chunk of Liam’s audience looks to feel that way, so surely it’s a good thing that they’re letting him know.
Ok, why should we know that? He got a view anyway since you've clicked on this video and watched more than 2 or 3 minutes of it, so it doesn't really matter
Warlords are warlords for a reason they all have skills and abilities the government deems a huge threat, even someone as weak as Gecko Moria. If utilized on the battlefield correctly he can turn your numbers against you. All those dead fodder soldiers and pirates can be reanimated by his abilities.
Hi Liam I have a question how is a Pirate Crew travelling backwards on the grandline considering that the log pose just points to the next island is it only possible with eternal poses and vivre cards?
Moria is a character who can do plenty, but refuses and instead relies fully on others. This has always taken me back to Arlong Park, where Luffy tells Arlong all the things he can't do by himself. Luffy can't achieve lots of things, but he does what he can at every opportunity
Really Liam? Still doing BetterHelp as a sponsor?
At least the Scottish lord scam was harmless.
I love Gecko moría and i loved thriller bark; it's like a Halloween special, only it's not just a special, it's a whole damn ark!
Stopped watching at better health. Be back next time.
Drama queen
Finally some moria love never thought I'd see it
Disliked for betterhelp not because I care about ethics but because bullying content creators out of a paid sponsorship is funny
gross
@@Autumn_GS Ratio tho
@@dr.tafazzi ratio'd your mum
Some people do still boil him down to "ermagerd laugh annoying", but Moria is honestly one of (if not the most) tragic villains of the series. But you gotta admire that while his methods may have changed, he is still intent on being King of the Pirates and cares deeply for his crew (past and current). I really like that he tells Luffy from experience that he isn't ready and literally the next arc, Luffy loses his crew, proving Moria right.
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U DID IT
Thank you thank you thank you for this video
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Hopefully you know this sponsorship is a scam
@@abahtani1371 wait, how does that work?
That is a lot of assumptions on Moria getting away from Teach during Garp's attack. I mean, the guy is the embodiment of Sloth, which seems to be the real theme of the Seven Warlords, the Seven Deadly Sins. Really, the best thing about and to come out of Thriller Bark was Perona.
I think people seem to oversee the simularity between crocodile and Moria. Both in their youth were strong rectless rookies, kinda like the supernovas back then in sabaody. And when they joined the new world they both did the eustass captain kid, ran their head into 1 emperor and both got decimated and barely escaped. And after that both are in a way depressed and thought "nah mate, i cant do this on my own". So Moria started using zombies to never lose his friends again and crocodile searches for the ancient weapon because he sees no other way to defeat whitebeard. And i kinda like them both for them, thats kinda realistic
Gecko Moria is one of my favorite characters for a reason. He was devastated when he found out Absalom died.
Gecko Moria is like a shadow of Luffy, when Moria lost his crew on wano he abandoned his pirate life, but when Luffy lost his crew in sabaody he decided to train and become stronger
I think the most interesting thing about Gecko Moria is the fact that for a guy who swore off of bonds of friendship and wanted to resort entirely to disposable underlings, he *still* wound up with three crew members who are genuine friends and companions. Hogback and Absalom saved him in Marineford, something which would never have happened if Moria had truly given up companionship and friends. And then there's Perona, who seems to legitimately think of him as her father figure.
Moria *tried* to give up on friends after what Kaido did to him. But he couldn't quite do it and wound up with Hogback, Perona, and Absalom. And then when one of his friends is in danger, Moria goes on the warpath without hesitation to try and save him, even confronting *another* of the Four Emperors.
I kind of wonder what would have happened if Moria hadn't been depleted so heavily by Luffy before confronting BB. If nothing else, Shadows Asgard could *literally* destroy the entire island as well as the dude controlling it.
I like how oda made kaido the one to really end Moria’s dreams. Like oda was trying to tell us that a gecko was beaten by a dragon, the dragons the real reptile we need to worry about
"Invisible human, ghost human, Shadow Master, all of them have powers that trick people. I don't think they'll ever give Luffy a fair flight"
Zoro says this in the 11th hour and to me it's one of a long line of insanely important moments at the end of Thriller Bark. Say what you will, but the climax of this arc was peak.
Moria was a required villain, Oda just needed to job some pirate to him first to hype him up more and change his design.
well, the fact that Moria was one of the best decks in the TCG for a while when set 6 dropped in japan and worldwide, made me gain a bit more respect for the man
Fun fact: Gecko Moria is almost certainly Oda's response to Baron Omatsuri from Movie 6. He doesn't like horror at all, but even Oda had to admit the Baron's powers, threat to the Straw Hats, and theming were so relevant and crucial to the spirit of One Piece that Oda made a "corrected" version of the non-canon antagonist in canon and retroactively honored him by giving a seat as a Warlord.
Clearly, Oda wanted to emphasize that any horror in One piece should be fun. Movie 6 probably genuinely disturbed and scared Oda too much to ever be canon, if Question Corner is any indication.
Wait it's that island where people began to disappear?
Wait it's that island where people began to disappear?
Wait it's that island where people began to disappear?
An interesting piece of trivia that most people don't seem to be aware of is that Jinbe and Moria have the same (JP) voice actor! I love both of their voices.
Thriller Bark is my favourite arc overall. It had amazing pre-timeskip comedy, good pacing even in the anime, and Moria is such an interesting contrast to Luffy in terms of ambition. I really really want him to encounter Luffy again, and just do a full double-page spread of "HUHHHH???" in response to Luffy likely casually mentioning that he beat Kaido.
I have an idea for a video Man On The Internet, a What-If video. So we’ll explore how things would’ve gone down if:
1. Luffy went to Winners Island, Law went to Elbaph, and Kidd went to Egghead
2. Luffy went to Elbaph, Law went to Egghead and Kidd went to Winners Island.
How do you think these scenarios would work?
The original Moria design is interesting - I wonder if the "pastor" half of his personality was turned into Kuma.
2:44- plus compared to all of the other Warlords with the exception of Weevil and Buggy (I’m sorry to our savior for saying this)- Moria lacks that conventional cool factor like he’s the odd one out- especially compared to Crocodile and Mihawk
I'm genuinely happy for the "Where's the Gecko Moria video?" guy :,-) Here's your video, buddy. He did it
Honestly, I wish Moria had come later on in the story, cuz then we might've explored his past and feelings more. Being a man broken by lost intrigues me as a fellow man afraid of/heavily affected by loss.
I'd like you to talk about Foxy.
The guy who if he had trained a little, or learned Haki, could have been on par with kaido
"If I can't ever do it, then why do anything at all?"
That's my motto in life
I’ve noticed something he has a basic set up for every single title card he uses. He just changes it up every single one is a person pulling holding something right in front of them with their right hand I mean not every single one it gets changed sometimes, but he uses it a lot. Nothing wrong with that I just think it’s cool
Moria is one of my favorite antagonists just because of his aesthetics alone. He was someone that went toe to toe with Kaidou in his prime, but we didn't meet him in his prime. We met him as a traumatized shell of a man after watching all his nakama get slaughtered. But he still never stopped moving forward, ironically enough. He came up with this batshit insane plan no one else would have thought of, much less put into motion. And even though the entire point was to avoid forming new emotional attachments, he still made three new nakama along the way. The thing is that it still wasn't enough. Not only did Luffy take him down, but the whole zombie apocalypse thing would never have worked in the New World where everyone and their mother has haki and even his strongest zombies would still be OHKOd by sea salt. Moria was out of shape and out of practice, which became painfully obvious in the Marineford war. The whole thing on Hachinosu is interesting because the Blackbeard Pirates could have killed him and ended his character arc along with his life. But instead, we got him refusing to submit because of what they did to Absalom, his nakama. We're not done with Moria. It might not even be crazy to think he's going to get his groove back when he does return again.
I wish we got to know more of his backstory because if he only started doing the zombie thing post-Kaidou, why did he steal Ryuma's corpse in Wano? At what point in his career did he realize he could even do that with shadows? He does not get enough credit for his sheer creativity with his devil fruit. The way he uses it, he's basically a budget Big Mom. In fact, when we met Pound on Whole Cake Island and he told us about the Soru Soru no Mi, he specifically mentioned Big Mom couldn't bring corpses to life with it. Which is a very strange thing for someone to just say unprompted.
Interesting to note that his Seraphim clone takes after his old appearance. I think when we see S-Gecko in action, Luffy is going to write it off as a weakling and get incredibly surprised.
I think it’s important to remember that when a character gets fully fleshed out later in a story, it’s simply more exciting to see them come around again during a reread/rewatch. As soon as they’re introduced, YOU already know who they are, and their actions can be properly appreciated with that knowledge of them now in mind. While it may have made more sense to flesh out Moria during HIS arc, it’s not necessarily a PROBLEM because it may surely help us understand the character’s actions better during our rereads, making Thriller Bark as an arc all the more exciting for Moria fans who want to dig deep into his character.