You are getting the high value of Volts/Amps because of the bad power factor (Pf) of your hair dryer. It is probably due to the fact that that they are using reactive component to drop the power to the motor or the heating element. That means that part of the power is return back to the inverter which your instruments are not measuring. I you want to measure the true power you will need the measure the phase relationship between the current and voltage and do your calculations from that. P = V * I only works when there is NO phase difference between the current and Voltage. The other way is to do what the power companies do is to place phase correction reactive components to the circuit and the will reduce the load on the inverter dramatically.
Correct. VA and W is not the same thing. You have to take the inverter effectiveness into account. Effect factor of 0,9 for example, gives 0,9 of the 1200VA available.
I was hoping to run a 400 watt Air conditioner off of a 24v, 230ah battery bank with a 24/375 victron inverter. Any idea if this will work? Victron claims the 24/375 has peak power output of 700 watt
yeah you have to get into the next level $$ to run the tough loads with victron. would like the 24/3000, or 2 and set it up to run split phase 240 for whole house backup/supplement. I have the 12/1200 and it runs my ng furnace fine full time, im running a 75/12 and 100/30 charge controllers on two strings 400 watts and 1200 worth of pannels. but being i am running 12 volts, the controllers are limited to 200, and 400watts output I am a newb and didn't know that switching to 24 volts would double the wattage the charge controllers could do.
Thanks for the video! Definitely going to do more research on this - but I definitely think your unit must have an issue if it can’t even handle 1000va and is reading incorrect power draw.
The Gopower is 2 x the cost and is owned by dometic which puts me off with their cheap overpriced chinese manufacturing. I would choose a Victron over any brand on the market.
Oke first of all do you not see the quality components that are inside, this thing is designt to get lowest standby current you can possibly have, not a normal transformer, but a real toroidal transformer that its expensive, its not made to what u use it for, bad inductive loads, its made so you are economical with the energy in the battery, so you can use the energy for light's or a emergency radio or a tv, not wasting energy on a hairdryer or a heater or a air conditioning, you get the point wrong of this device, did you test the standby current the idle current, no you did not, lowest you every did measure from a inverter, important if you only have one small battery, and you need to be economical with your energy, lets say in a camper or car, so thats wy they use high quality components and a design that has less components that will waste energy, its not a high power inverter but a high quality low energy wasting inverter so you need to use it for that and not test it on high inductive loads, its like you thake a Ferrari and a Toyota Prius, they are not comparable, but if you only have 1 gallon of fuel and you need to go as far as possible than you are more happy with that Toyota Prius, and thats is also the case with this inverter, energy efficient inverter
Can you explain what is stand by and idle current? Did you mean current used by the unit itself? That’s 0.5 amps, just like any other inverter up to 1500 watts.
@@tysesty yes de current with out any appliances put in, my Victron inverter is like 0,3 amps, +/-4W, and in economic mode its like 1,5W, and my dead Chinees 1000w constant and 2000w max it was like 1,2 amps, 15W, and that inverter did make a high pitched sound, and the fan's where always blowing for a year and than they did make a terrible sound so i had to replace them, not with my Victron inverter, o ya the fan in the Victron is for the cooling of the mosfets in front not really for the big transformer, hahaha yea but oke it is small and silent
@@tysesty thats not good i think, my inverter never gets hot, but i only have a 500w max load on it until now, i do not need more power, maybe there is something wrong with your inverter, i have only a 60amp lifepo4 battery, so it doesn't make sense to do a higher load, with 500w the battery will be depleted in 1,5 our, so my normaal load is like 150w, but i need this inverter for when i have no load so my battery doesn't go dead on me with high no load current, i need that economic mode
It's unrealistic to expect it to start a 700watt ac unit. I doubt a 1000watt generator would either. It's common practice to spec a generator 3x any motor loads and better to go 6x. My fridge at home runs at 100w but it takes 1000w to start the compressor so that's 10x the run power. You just aren't going to get 10x 700w off a small inverter that only has a peak load of 2400w. Its under specified for your requirements.
I think they are based on the designs of the old 1980's/90's Compaq/APC inverters, which are out of patent. Absolute Tanks as Inverters go, but with extra bells and whistles.
@@tysestywas considering to get a multiplus ii 3000va 48v but considering what's inside them think I might work with a mpp solar lv6548. just work with value for my victron equipment are overpriced
I was hoping to run a 400 watt Air conditioner off of a 24v, 230ah battery bank with a 24/375 victron inverter. Any idea if this will work? Victron claims the 24/375 has peak power output of 700 watt
@John Bauby not sure if will start your air condition but I've used it to run a drill that was 700watts and it started it without any problems.. I've got one of the victron Phoenix 1200va in use now
Vlad F K - You are confusing VA with Watts. The Victron app was reading VA not Watts because you have to take into account the power factor of the load. Inductive loads like motors and heating elements have a poor power factor.
I have a 24v 1200va phoenix inverter And it will hands down run a 6000btu AC unit as well as as a fridge and a rv all at the same time Maybe you need to reconfigure your system because something is wrong. I have had no issues whatsoever been running this 24 seven for the past six months maybe you got a faulty unit
Sober up, I would ban you from buying the best inverter money can buy. Go buy some cheap Chineese junk instead, that way you will have more money for beer.
@@williamhurley8407 that’s a great idea, why didn’t I think of that? Spent big money on junk like Victron Phoenix or buying good beer 🍺? You already know what it’s going to be :)
@@williamhurley8407 damn, I can’t , I just got new keg of Pilsner Urquell and it will take me a few days to finish it up but why don’t you do a little research on GoPower inverters in the meantime and maybe you’ll change your mind and I don’t have to stop drinking :)
@@VladFredK I only use victron, nothing else matches it for build quality, flexibility, and now with recent price reductions value for money. I have been using victron equipment for 12 years never had a problem.
I have tested 2 units of Victron inverter 12/1200 (european version 220v) Great problem whit motor of the phon. Victron inverter is ridicolous (like my english 🤷🏻♂️)
@@imnguyen6658 so are IPads, but built to Apple spec, not Chinese. Victron is a Dutch company, and everything they put out, may as well have been built in Holland,
You are getting the high value of Volts/Amps because of the bad power factor (Pf) of your hair dryer. It is probably due to the fact that that they are using reactive component to drop the power to the motor or the heating element. That means that part of the power is return back to the inverter which your instruments are not measuring. I you want to measure the true power you will need the measure the phase relationship between the current and voltage and do your calculations from that. P = V * I only works when there is NO phase difference between the current and Voltage. The other way is to do what the power companies do is to place phase correction reactive components to the circuit and the will reduce the load on the inverter dramatically.
Sorry, but the tiny fan is to cool down the low voltage switching fets.
I don’t think so, they have cooling heat sinks attached to them but the coil is the one that is getting hot and the fan is aimed at the coil
@@VladFredK - The Mosfet bridge has an aluminum funnel where the air from the tiny fan passes through.
It is a 1200VA inverter or 1000W if I understand the victron manual correctly.
Correct. VA and W is not the same thing. You have to take the inverter effectiveness into account. Effect factor of 0,9 for example, gives 0,9 of the 1200VA available.
Place a Power Strip in and Run whatever You want It to Run with a small extension cord or Hard Wire It to a Panel with Breakers
Genius
i have years an 24/80 230V 50HZ inverter and it works perfect also with an 750W angel-grinder.
I was hoping to run a 400 watt Air conditioner off of a 24v, 230ah battery bank with a 24/375 victron inverter. Any idea if this will work? Victron claims the 24/375 has peak power output of 700 watt
i don't think so
is it an inverter aircon?
Thank you for sharing this info.
I was planning on using it with a 6kBTU AC for a CamperVan.
You saved me a lot of trouble.
This will run it no problems. There's a video, with a guy running a mr. Cool mini split.
Exactly @@carlosreyes6448
I have one but it's configured to deliver 240v and it's great.. 10,000 btu portable AC doesn't worry it.
Interesting
Are you using the victron autotransformer? To get your 240volts
@@carlosreyes6448 What i meant by being configured for 240v is that It's a 240v output version of the same inverter.
yeah you have to get into the next level $$ to run the tough loads with victron. would like the 24/3000, or 2 and set it up to run split phase 240 for whole house backup/supplement. I have the 12/1200 and it runs my ng furnace fine full time, im running a 75/12 and 100/30 charge controllers on two strings 400 watts and 1200 worth of pannels. but being i am running 12 volts, the controllers are limited to 200, and 400watts output I am a newb and didn't know that switching to 24 volts would double the wattage the charge controllers could do.
Refrigerator or freezer is not tough load, 200 watts each.
Thanks for the video! Definitely going to do more research on this - but I definitely think your unit must have an issue if it can’t even handle 1000va and is reading incorrect power draw.
its not the unit, I had this problem with more units.
The Gopower is 2 x the cost and is owned by dometic which puts me off with their cheap overpriced chinese manufacturing. I would choose a Victron over any brand on the market.
Definitely the best on the market.
Oke first of all do you not see the quality components that are inside, this thing is designt to get lowest standby current you can possibly have, not a normal transformer, but a real toroidal transformer that its expensive, its not made to what u use it for, bad inductive loads, its made so you are economical with the energy in the battery, so you can use the energy for light's or a emergency radio or a tv, not wasting energy on a hairdryer or a heater or a air conditioning, you get the point wrong of this device, did you test the standby current the idle current, no you did not, lowest you every did measure from a inverter, important if you only have one small battery, and you need to be economical with your energy, lets say in a camper or car, so thats wy they use high quality components and a design that has less components that will waste energy, its not a high power inverter but a high quality low energy wasting inverter so you need to use it for that and not test it on high inductive loads, its like you thake a Ferrari and a Toyota Prius, they are not comparable, but if you only have 1 gallon of fuel and you need to go as far as possible than you are more happy with that Toyota Prius, and thats is also the case with this inverter, energy efficient inverter
Can you explain what is stand by and idle current? Did you mean current used by the unit itself? That’s 0.5 amps, just like any other inverter up to 1500 watts.
@@tysesty yes de current with out any appliances put in, my Victron inverter is like 0,3 amps, +/-4W, and in economic mode its like 1,5W, and my dead Chinees 1000w constant and 2000w max it was like 1,2 amps, 15W, and that inverter did make a high pitched sound, and the fan's where always blowing for a year and than they did make a terrible sound so i had to replace them, not with my Victron inverter, o ya the fan in the Victron is for the cooling of the mosfets in front not really for the big transformer, hahaha yea but oke it is small and silent
I did use it with about 800 watts load and the coil got very hot so it must be for cooling the coil
@@tysesty thats not good i think, my inverter never gets hot, but i only have a 500w max load on it until now, i do not need more power, maybe there is something wrong with your inverter, i have only a 60amp lifepo4 battery, so it doesn't make sense to do a higher load, with 500w the battery will be depleted in 1,5 our, so my normaal load is like 150w, but i need this inverter for when i have no load so my battery doesn't go dead on me with high no load current, i need that economic mode
Nobody cares if you don't even get basic spelling right.
It's unrealistic to expect it to start a 700watt ac unit. I doubt a 1000watt generator would either. It's common practice to spec a generator 3x any motor loads and better to go 6x. My fridge at home runs at 100w but it takes 1000w to start the compressor so that's 10x the run power. You just aren't going to get 10x 700w off a small inverter that only has a peak load of 2400w. Its under specified for your requirements.
You are right
I think they are based on the designs of the old 1980's/90's Compaq/APC inverters, which are out of patent. Absolute Tanks as Inverters go, but with extra bells and whistles.
bought the 24/800 and was disappointed with what was inside. sold it an got something else but do still have a 24/375
I’m completely disappointed with this inverter, the only thing that’s good about it is the Bluetooth
@@tysestywas considering to get a multiplus ii 3000va 48v but considering what's inside them think I might work with a mpp solar lv6548. just work with value for my victron equipment are overpriced
The Multiplus is built differently but it has a same issue….don’t know about Multiplus 2
I was hoping to run a 400 watt Air conditioner off of a 24v, 230ah battery bank with a 24/375 victron inverter. Any idea if this will work? Victron claims the 24/375 has peak power output of 700 watt
@John Bauby not sure if will start your air condition but I've used it to run a drill that was 700watts and it started it without any problems.. I've got one of the victron Phoenix 1200va in use now
Youre drunk? Oh wait i see the beer mug😅
@@javiercoronel1169 yah, and the inverter is drunk too :)
did you use a battery to do this test if so maybe you need 200 a bms ?
I have 1300 A BMS and 1300 A battery……Maybe I need 2000 A BMS. :)
Vlad F K - You are confusing VA with Watts. The Victron app was reading VA not Watts because you have to take into account the power factor of the load. Inductive loads like motors and heating elements have a poor power factor.
did you use a car battery to do this test ?
nope, I used AAA.....this is a joke right?
I have a 24v 1200va phoenix inverter
And it will hands down run a 6000btu AC unit as well as as a fridge and a rv all at the same time
Maybe you need to reconfigure your system because something is wrong. I have had no issues whatsoever been running this 24 seven for the past six months maybe you got a faulty unit
The go power cost twice as much as the victron
Not exactly
Great interesting what junk you get for £400+, most inverters are overpriced Chinese rubbish with well known brands names just stuck on it pure crap.
Chinese stuff are so crap.
Please no more videos 🙏
Some times the truth hurts.
Sober up, I would ban you from buying the best inverter money can buy.
Go buy some cheap Chineese junk instead, that way you will have more money for beer.
@@williamhurley8407 that’s a great idea, why didn’t I think of that? Spent big money on junk like Victron Phoenix or buying good beer 🍺? You already know what it’s going to be :)
@@VladFredK still drunk then, sober up.
@@williamhurley8407 damn, I can’t , I just got new keg of Pilsner Urquell and it will take me a few days to finish it up but why don’t you do a little research on GoPower inverters in the meantime and maybe you’ll change your mind and I don’t have to stop drinking :)
@@VladFredK I only use victron, nothing else matches it for build quality, flexibility, and now with recent price reductions value for money. I have been using victron equipment for 12 years never had a problem.
I have tested 2 units of Victron inverter 12/1200 (european version 220v)
Great problem whit motor of the phon.
Victron inverter is ridicolous (like my english 🤷🏻♂️)
Honestly the longer I have it the more problems I discover, shame on you Victron to SELL such a POJ
I definitely buy a Victron before I buy Chinese shittt.
congrats
Where are the Victrons made? Regarding made in China, are most if not all lfp batts made there?
@@imnguyen6658 so are IPads, but built to Apple spec, not Chinese.
Victron is a Dutch company, and everything they put out, may as well have been built in Holland,
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