I couldn’t agree more. People didn’t see the vision of collections and holding cards for xp when collections came out and now they are suffering as a result in classic
This is one of the greatest sorare content in the last weeks or months. Every manager should watch this! It‘s also funny to see my lineup in your video 😅
Hi Nep! At some point can you do a video about your thoughts on the value of being on top divisions vs bottom divisions in Classic Competition? At least at Limited level at the moment the further down the divisions you are the less points you need to win a reward/box. For example somebody scoring 400 points in Division 1 might win nothing and then somebody scoring 400 points in Division 4 might win a Tier 5 and a box… it feels like there’s little incentive to be in the higher divisions because you’ve got less chance of winning anything (assuming your thought process is that winning a worse reward is better than winning no reward). In the lower divisions you might win worse boxes but it still gives you a chance at essence, which is better than winning no box. Loving the Sorare videos Nep!
I think what people aren’t understanding is that boxes are what tier 5s and 4s were and you can effectively save up your tier 5s and get what you want whether that’s a load of tier 5s or a few tier 3s or a tier 1/star
Ive just recently got back into SoRare after watching your videos (thanks by the way :P) your videos are great though. Also you're not rambling, your providing information. Ive just created a little spreadsheet to show cost per average point. Pretty useful for someone who doesn't have a big budget to play with
My Idea for Classic rewards was to up the boxes you get. If you are top 10% or top 20% or so you than get 2 boxes. If you are top 150 you get 3 boxes and so on. That would mean that in div 1, you get 2 or 3 tier 5 boxes which conicdering the highest odds would give you about 20essense all the time. That is a T5+ in crafting and would make it so much more fun and feel better to play! 1 Box for 400 points in some divisions is just not enough imo
just started sorare nep, trying to watch your videos to get an understanding. free to play is only rivals?? and also warm up? do i need to buy cards to play the other modes? also cards you earn/pack do they only have value when that specific team is playing if that makes sense? as you can just pick the random players in rivals that it offers you... e.g mbappe when madrid play
Nep as a new player who has an in season limited Celtic stack being a Celtic fan where in your opinion do I go next. I’m really not sure wether to go in season in another league or go classic
This is probably gunna sound stupid but I’ve only recently started… to get power up you need to level up.. how do you level up a player? Is it purely by entering him into a team and plays or do you need to have a high scoring team and earn a reward with him to gain a level up? Thanks for any help guys in advance 👍
By entering players into pro competitions they do get XP regardless of the result, putting players in academy/training gets them double xp, hope this helps.
Scoring 475 points and not receiving a card reward is borderline unacceptable imo. I appreciate you're heavily invested in collections but it shouldn't be that unless you have close to or maxed out collection bonuses you can't win big. The focus should be on the 5 cards you've chosen for your lineup not the X amount of cards you bought that form a collection that have nothing to do with said lineup. For me the reward distribution is wrong and classic needs more love, I don't expect it to be the like old days were 400 guaranteed you a reward (and a good one at that). What do I expect is that 475 points should deliver a card reward.
Whilst I absolutely disagree that a points total should = a card reward, 475 points delivered a card reward in every classic limited division except La Liga 1/2 (but did in 3/4/5) was even enough to podium in multiple divisions (including some D1's) - and generally gave T3 or better as a reward. So if, for you, 475 points is the acceptable value of points, then you'll almost never not get what you want from those points.
You compared your 510 score in classic and showed it would have got you 600£ in season. You said you can't debate that. Well there is no way the in season has anywhere close to the same xp so your score wouldn't have been that high in season
Nep I love the Sorare content but I couldn’t disagree more with this video. Classic is pretty much dead and will only get worse with time. The problem isn’t the reward if you are lucky enough to finish on the podium. It’s the rewards outside the podium combined with how perfect you have to be when creating lineups now. I don’t think the game should be easy, but as it is right now you basically need to be perfect or extremely lucky to get a good reward in classic (and even then you have to hope you get lucky with the card from the pool). You even said it in the video… you basically need: A) Level 20 B) 5% collection bonus C) Pick the 5 best scorers (ez game) Or D) Have 5 smashers (with the max bonus for each of them) Or E) Hope to get lucky with the essence lottery Classic just isn’t fun or rewarding enough for the majority of users which is the sad reality of Sorare now. I still enjoy the game but solely playing in season comps now. Thanks for the longer video, please keep them coming 🙏
but the cost price of A/B/C is now way lower because "classic is dead". The person who got a T3 in Prem D1 Classic had a "base" score of 374.8. That's just not difficult to achieve if you buy high end players at the low prices they're at because classic is perceived to be dead. A T3 Rare prem player includes Konate, Mitoma, Bowen, VdV, De Light among many others. These are quality pieces for D1 Classic with a low base score. The point of the video is that to play classic you have to play the game. If you've got a 2022 card and it's not Level 20, that's such a miss-step on your side, because Level 20 is needed to compete. If you don't have 3% XP at a really small price after 90 days, that's another thing to be upset at yourself about, because it's affordable if you're running stars to get that bonus. People want to be able to hit base scores of 300 points and win stars, and it's just not going to be a reality.
the problem is the cost to make classic great again - the amount of entrys so is so big the rewards would need to double to feel great and thats not sustainable. If the rewards of classic would increase by 10-30% people would just conplain as much as before and it would be expensive in a way (depends where the extra rewards come from)
+the divison system is dead broken too. Had in Limited Div 1 with Real (maxes out 15 % and 492.6 points) no reward, just a box. But in div 3-5 i would podium and get some t1 and minimum t2. Same problem in the prem. In still have to play div 3-5 for max ev?
I literally start teams of rewards in classic and they yield essence and cards on the regular. Success rate is 10-30% of lineups depending on weeks but with 30+ lineups there is always some end product. Why would I invest in in season? My experience so far is a couple of lineups that cost me a lot and yielded very little
Is that fc menus i hear in the background
I couldn’t agree more. People didn’t see the vision of collections and holding cards for xp when collections came out and now they are suffering as a result in classic
It used to be imo. Two or even last season, 400 something points would ALWAYS get you a card. Now it barely gets you a box.
Feeling blessed with two videos today and of them being a long one😍
This is one of the greatest sorare content in the last weeks or months. Every manager should watch this! It‘s also funny to see my lineup in your video 😅
Hi Nep! At some point can you do a video about your thoughts on the value of being on top divisions vs bottom divisions in Classic Competition? At least at Limited level at the moment the further down the divisions you are the less points you need to win a reward/box. For example somebody scoring 400 points in Division 1 might win nothing and then somebody scoring 400 points in Division 4 might win a Tier 5 and a box… it feels like there’s little incentive to be in the higher divisions because you’ve got less chance of winning anything (assuming your thought process is that winning a worse reward is better than winning no reward). In the lower divisions you might win worse boxes but it still gives you a chance at essence, which is better than winning no box.
Loving the Sorare videos Nep!
Love these ramblings, you need bring back that podcast you did for awhile
I think what people aren’t understanding is that boxes are what tier 5s and 4s were and you can effectively save up your tier 5s and get what you want whether that’s a load of tier 5s or a few tier 3s or a tier 1/star
Ive just recently got back into SoRare after watching your videos (thanks by the way :P) your videos are great though. Also you're not rambling, your providing information. Ive just created a little spreadsheet to show cost per average point. Pretty useful for someone who doesn't have a big budget to play with
Great vid nep
I like how this piramid scheme is designed :)
My Idea for Classic rewards was to up the boxes you get. If you are top 10% or top 20% or so you than get 2 boxes. If you are top 150 you get 3 boxes and so on. That would mean that in div 1, you get 2 or 3 tier 5 boxes which conicdering the highest odds would give you about 20essense all the time. That is a T5+ in crafting and would make it so much more fun and feel better to play! 1 Box for 400 points in some divisions is just not enough imo
What's difference between in season vs classic? They score differently?
just started sorare nep, trying to watch your videos to get an understanding. free to play is only rivals?? and also warm up? do i need to buy cards to play the other modes? also cards you earn/pack do they only have value when that specific team is playing if that makes sense? as you can just pick the random players in rivals that it offers you... e.g mbappe when madrid play
For other mods your player's specific team must be playing that gameweek.
Nep is in the top tier of Sorare understanding
Nep as a new player who has an in season limited Celtic stack being a Celtic fan where in your opinion do I go next. I’m really not sure wether to go in season in another league or go classic
Early for once, rough week for my RTG only two boxes from the tutorials ☠️
Same here brother 😂
did sorare already announced a date for the reveal of new season cards?
This is probably gunna sound stupid but I’ve only recently started… to get power up you need to level up.. how do you level up a player? Is it purely by entering him into a team and plays or do you need to have a high scoring team and earn a reward with him to gain a level up? Thanks for any help guys in advance 👍
By entering players into pro competitions they do get XP regardless of the result, putting players in academy/training gets them double xp, hope this helps.
@@fwr7630thanks for your help! 👍
I have collection for barca from 4 seasons in limited and I smashed with this 7-0 I won 2 tier 1 and $2300 in in season.
Got a tier 3 with Veerman, De Jong, Boscagli and Evander, choose to not pair Benitez with the rest of the PSV boys, which cost me a podium….
Psv is wild in challenger
Somebody is grinding the 85 x 10 packs.
What is the reward day and time? Im new and when i see that right i will get 3 Boxes from last Matchday. Thanks in advance!🤝🏽
Scoring 475 points and not receiving a card reward is borderline unacceptable imo. I appreciate you're heavily invested in collections but it shouldn't be that unless you have close to or maxed out collection bonuses you can't win big. The focus should be on the 5 cards you've chosen for your lineup not the X amount of cards you bought that form a collection that have nothing to do with said lineup.
For me the reward distribution is wrong and classic needs more love, I don't expect it to be the like old days were 400 guaranteed you a reward (and a good one at that). What do I expect is that 475 points should deliver a card reward.
Whilst I absolutely disagree that a points total should = a card reward, 475 points delivered a card reward in every classic limited division except La Liga 1/2 (but did in 3/4/5) was even enough to podium in multiple divisions (including some D1's) - and generally gave T3 or better as a reward. So if, for you, 475 points is the acceptable value of points, then you'll almost never not get what you want from those points.
You compared your 510 score in classic and showed it would have got you 600£ in season. You said you can't debate that. Well there is no way the in season has anywhere close to the same xp so your score wouldn't have been that high in season
Classic is better then people think.
Nep I love the Sorare content but I couldn’t disagree more with this video. Classic is pretty much dead and will only get worse with time. The problem isn’t the reward if you are lucky enough to finish on the podium. It’s the rewards outside the podium combined with how perfect you have to be when creating lineups now. I don’t think the game should be easy, but as it is right now you basically need to be perfect or extremely lucky to get a good reward in classic (and even then you have to hope you get lucky with the card from the pool). You even said it in the video… you basically need:
A) Level 20
B) 5% collection bonus
C) Pick the 5 best scorers (ez game)
Or
D) Have 5 smashers (with the max bonus for each of them)
Or
E) Hope to get lucky with the essence lottery
Classic just isn’t fun or rewarding enough for the majority of users which is the sad reality of Sorare now. I still enjoy the game but solely playing in season comps now. Thanks for the longer video, please keep them coming 🙏
but the cost price of A/B/C is now way lower because "classic is dead". The person who got a T3 in Prem D1 Classic had a "base" score of 374.8. That's just not difficult to achieve if you buy high end players at the low prices they're at because classic is perceived to be dead. A T3 Rare prem player includes Konate, Mitoma, Bowen, VdV, De Light among many others. These are quality pieces for D1 Classic with a low base score. The point of the video is that to play classic you have to play the game. If you've got a 2022 card and it's not Level 20, that's such a miss-step on your side, because Level 20 is needed to compete. If you don't have 3% XP at a really small price after 90 days, that's another thing to be upset at yourself about, because it's affordable if you're running stars to get that bonus. People want to be able to hit base scores of 300 points and win stars, and it's just not going to be a reality.
the problem is the cost to make classic great again - the amount of entrys so is so big the rewards would need to double to feel great and thats not sustainable. If the rewards of classic would increase by 10-30% people would just conplain as much as before and it would be expensive in a way (depends where the extra rewards come from)
+the divison system is dead broken too. Had in Limited Div 1 with Real (maxes out 15 % and 492.6 points) no reward, just a box. But in div 3-5 i would podium and get some t1 and minimum t2. Same problem in the prem. In still have to play div 3-5 for max ev?
classic lvl is dead
I literally start teams of rewards in classic and they yield essence and cards on the regular. Success rate is 10-30% of lineups depending on weeks but with 30+ lineups there is always some end product. Why would I invest in in season? My experience so far is a couple of lineups that cost me a lot and yielded very little