You have a two-fer going here. One, you are getting your system built yourself, saving money and getting it done right. Two, you are getting lots of exercise, keeping yourself lean and mean. All that exercise has you looking like a young buck ranch hand!
Thanks a ton. Yep there is no way I could ever afford to have all the trenching and plumbing done. I dont have that kind of financial resources. Plus I really enjoy the learning part of all of this.
Raise/extend those clean outs to ground level, or slightly above, now. Build something creative around to conceal. Toilet "whoosh" and flow depends upon the toilet design flow and volume of water per flush. Know that the 1"/48" slope is minimum, more slope = better flow in the waste line. Do you have a septic tank closed system, or septic with leach field? Rent a trenching power tool for that 100 foot run to the cabin. That's 4 feet of slope! Will you need to elevate the cabin floor, or have that toilet on a platform? Because I dont know if the current septic connection is 48" below. Get that digging chore done before spring/summer heat!
Howdy. I really enjoy your videos. I wish you would put a piece of PVC or something over the rebar sticking out of the ground. One bad stumble and you've impaled yourself.
@@affordabledesertliving3487I encourage you to do so--cover the top of that rebar sticking up. I jumped on such as a kid and the puncture wound it made in the bottom of my bare foot was bad!
@@paulhunter546 That was part of the joke when I heard it the first time many years ago. It went "all you need to know to be a plumber is hot on the left, cold on the right, and sh*t goes downhill." 😀
Oh Don, I'm watching right now and can't stop admiring your work around the pond! Your endless enthusiasm for "the big house" is heart warming! But I finally understand equivalent fractions and how it applies to the septic drop! Thank you for sharing that hack and explaing it so well! Keep taking breaks and posting fun videos! Thanks!
I am sure that you know. your cleanout sweep is backwards as your cleanout will normally point downhill... and another one should be near the cabin . (Cleanouts are normally near the source of the sewage, as you can get snakes that are as long as you want.
Hi Don! Greetings from Austin TX where I am on vacation. Maybe Arizona next! Not surprised this video came from the trenches. You are a form of a warrior. You win this war.
Don, you made my year. I knew the 1/4 inch thing but that hack is awesome. Thank you for sharing that. Hopefully the chicken wire will work, I have been around cows most of my life and they are dumb to say the least. Have a super blessed week.
When I was putting in my sewer like you are, I found myself having to fill in where I'd dug too deep pretty often ... and moving a side out because my trench was getting crooked or the bend didn't bend where I expected. It's a great job to be done with! As for whether a steep drop on a toilet makes it flush better, no. As long as you have a good slope all the way, it'll flush just as well shallow or deep. With a long drop, solids can get left behind when the water hits the elbow. If you angle the pipe 45 degrees from the toilet down to the main line instead of doing a long vertical drop, it's better.
Don there are solar panels for electric fencing. I'd bet 2 one inch wide electric fencing strips would be enough to keep the deer and cattle out of your pond. Cougar urine would work and yes you can buy it. But then perhaps cougars would start drinking out of your pond. Remember the wooden plywood silhouette cut outs of leaning men smoking a pip near houses/barns? They were painted all black so they looked like shadows. Maybe a large one of those with red or yellow driveway reflector 'eyes' might be too scary for deer and cows. Couse you could always take a pee near it for affect. :)) Or the eyes could be small solar motion sensing security lights.
Fun suggestions Rags. I definitely have "kitties" at my property on occasion. They would love that cougar urine for sure. I will keep working on all of this until I have it solved and the birds can enjoy their oasis.
Don, in Michigan a water closet vertical discharge can drop 24” before tying into the building drain. The building drain vent must be at least 1/2 the diameter of the building drain. So in your case if you turn up the 4” vertical you need a 2” vent. If you reduce to 3” you can vent with 11/2”. Good luck!
Forgot, they had an indoor root cellar. Worked pretty well. Just a month or two they used a cooler for some things. It was dirt walls with shelves. Was great
I love that level idea! Learned something new today I will need for my cabin. Also admire your manual digging skills. That’s how I learned from my grandfather when I was a young girl under his feet. Guess I better sharpen my pick ax, or “Grubbin Hoe”. That’s what we call them down here in Texas.
Great work, Don. On a side note - I've been watching your videos from the beginning and I have to say, you only seem to get younger with time. Your mobility, strength, and overall appearance is remarkable. I bet all that exercise and fresh air does the body wonders.
Love the flush sound effects. Praying I will be able to build my own place at my age. Graduated rough carpentry framing in 2005. Healing from sickness.
Hi Don! Great to see your video, you are becoming the jack of all trades for sure. I can sense your excitement as you keep working on your property and the larger house. I still laugh when I see Leo the Lion in the pond! good luck with the mule deer, they are determined to get what they want for sure. I have them here in Colorado and I elected to just stop planting things 😀l look forward to your next video as I see a man who works on his dreams daily, very impressive Don! Have an awesome week!🥰👋👋👍👍
Getting a workout there mate. Clay, tiny pebbles, hmm That's the right country here in OZ for Opel!. If a tennis ball will run right through your pipe work, your good to go!
Hi Don, just found you today and I'm truly enjoying your videos. Idea for your bird feeder, get yourself some red pepper flacks and mix a good amount into the loose feed before you put it out. Maybe that'll keep the mule deer out of the loose feed. Thank you for sharing your adventures.
Hi Don, I don't know if you may have already considered a 12v cattle fence. They are not injurious to animals (we used to play dare games as kids touching them). Once animals learn to recognise the line, they will keep away from it. It would keep deer and cattle at whatever distance you choose from your pond. They run on a 12v car battery.
I am amazed at how hard you work at doing hard work. None of that is easy, though you make it look fun. I can't wait to visit Donlandia, no more Disneyland for me!
Another job which requires a lot of hard work but we all know that hard work doesn`t faze you at all. You are a very positive influence and good example to us all. As always Don, very well done.
Trenching is no joke! Beautiful work done Don! We are doing the same thing on our property. Digging trenches… No fun but got to get it done. I always enjoy watching your videos!! You give me a smile!
Great and informative video as always. I'm finally moving to my land in April and will be doing septic and plumbing soon. Now I will understand what needs to be done, and can properly "supervise", ha ha. I know my limitations and methinks I won't be digging my own trenches, though!
My friend had a three hole outdoor outhouse on their off grid ranch. The last visit, they had an indoor toilet, though had to use a water bucket to flush. They heated up water for the tub on the wood cook top. No running water. They were like that for 30 years. Now living in town and loving it. No cougars and coyotes and can travel again without livestock and property to worry about.
Caliche is a Spanish word for this hard stuff that is encountered at different depths when digging in the southwest. It's mostly calcium carbonate from sea animals and frequently has sand and other minerals mixed in. In the right conditions it will turn into limestone. There are fossilized coral reefs on Hiway 80.
I hope the wire will keep the big beasts away from the pond. It is really special in the desert. A little water brings all kinds of birds. Thy for sharing your life with us.
Thanks Wanda. Once I increase the size of my rainwater harvesting setup I can be less concerned about big animals chugging the water. Also the goal is to fence all 4 acres and that will keep out wandering cows which have other sources of water.
Hi Don: Don't worry one little bit about your septic system. Just one man living alone is no problem. Now, for a family with a wife and bunch of kids running in and out and flushing toilet paper down the toilet all day long, now that would be a "Problem"!!! Stay Safe: richard Fort Worth
Vertical drop is not really important with sewerage lines. You want the horizontal runs to have the proper drain angle. Keeps the solids and liquids flowing. Go with whatever the building code calls for. consider getting a strand or two of electric fence around the pond and wrap it around the wooden fence post of the bird feeder. A solar powered electric fence charger is around fifty bucks at Tractor Supply store. Wall plug ones are a lot cheaper, but not so good for off grid use. I use an electric fence charger to keep the squirrels out of my bird feeder, and it's very effective except during rainstorms when the GFCI trips out.
Also, bury one of those warning tapes along the trench above the pipe, If you have some scrap electrical wire, put a few wraps around the cleanout pipes just below the top. Also wrap the scrap wires around the pipe at the corners and Ys. these can be located with a metal detector saving future you hassle if you ever need to dig them up.
For mine I used the bubble as the measure. I found when the bubble was touching the edge of the level lines, it was good. So instead of getting the bubble inside the center lines, I sloped it just enough to set the bubble outside the line. Of course you have to make sure it's the right edge.
Great video Don ‘. I really am looking forward to seeing all this come together. I’m even thinking of duplicating some of your build on my property. That’s if you don’t mind. Have a great week.
Hi Oscar I have replicated and then modified others builds so that they work for me, so I just assume that if what I am doing is helpful others may copy that. I am always delighted when I learn that what I do is helpful.
That was NOT a long enough break Don 🤨 You are going to make these 30 & 40 yr olds look really REALLY bad ‼️ Coming along great 🤩 You just take care of yourself ❤👵🏻👩🌾❣️
We live a couple hundred miles north of you and always enjoy your videos. Our spring birds are coming back and one of my favorite is called a says Phoebe. And I'm sure you know what these are and they are making a nest on the back of my Powerhouse just like they did last year so I'm really excited! I keep a clean mixing trough out in the yard and I fill it with water for all the other birds that come and go. And I really miss the Gambel quail... up until a few weeks ago there was a flock of about 60 to 80 of them that would come by every morning and every evening for water. I think the coyote and fox have done a job on them and there's only a few around now. I would like to see a lot more of these quail, what's the best way to attract them? 😊 thanks Don.
I also have Says Phoebe here on my property but they dont nest. They nest at the neighbors across the road. I have both Gambels and Scaled Quail here. Its unlikely predators have decimated your group. They move around depending on the season. Next time your at a feed store you might want to purchase a Quail Block. Yummy seed for them and they love it. Of course that can attract rodents and then rattlers. So it depends on your habitat etc.
Did you plan the sewer system for an RV dump or an outside restroom? I'm sure that fencing off an acre is expensive and a lot of work but you could make a bird sanctuary complete with trees and some grain growing.
@@affordabledesertliving3487 One day at a time and "slow as you go!" Helped many ppl in my day building structures, cabins and garages but that was many moons ago. You are doing teaching and informing and your learning as you go. You take good care of yourself. You will get there! Veteran Charlie.
You are doing just fine on your pipes. Just be sure the backfill under your pipes is solid so the pipes won’t settle & create ups & downs in the line. Clean outs are good. I was a septic engineer for 30 years, and you are doing fine. Got risers to grade on your tank?
Thanks for the encouragement Ken! Yes! One of the super valuable lessons I learned even years ago was the 1/4" per sq ft fall of all risers. So as I mentioned in the vid I double/triple checked that part.
I am sure you know that the fall on the sewer inside the foundation is 1/8'' per foot. Make sure on the line going to the little house has enough ground cover , that's 25'' of rise on the little house sewer line@100'
The drop doesn’t matter, but no more than 3 feet, just make sure the elbow is a sweeper 90 degree bend. And of course the entire system has to be a 2 degree drop, no more, no less.
I had my appendix taken out at 46. You’re biggest issue is the stitches they used to sew you up. Obviously you don’t want to break one. This could cause major issues. Make sure you’re healed properly.
HI Gene as I mentioned in the video the neighbors specifically put out water for the mule deer and others. For me it mostly comes down to a limited water supply. Most of my water comes from harvesting it from my roof. Every drop is precious.
Not sure on Arizona plumbing code but in CA if using 4" you can use 1/8" per foot. You want the water to push the solids, not go over top of the solids.
More than once I encountered the concept that 1/4" was best. So that is what I went with. With owner/builder opt out building permit I fortunately do not have to adhere to codes. That said I found time and time again 1/4" would work great. Thanks for watching.
Don The issue isn’t the 1/4 vs 1/8 it’s the 3 inch vs 4 inch. As the last commenter mentioned you want the water to float or push the solids out of the way. That’s why you don’t want greater than 1/4 per foot as the fluids will go too quickly and run around the solids.
I think you already know the toilet flushing question's answer. What's the difference between flushing a toilet on 2F vs. flushing one on 1F? We've all done both at least hundreds of times in our lives.
The drop distance does not matter. The proper angle of the overall pipe is what is critical. Too steep the water goes down and the poop will stay behind and end up plugging your pipe. Too shallow and everything stays in the pipe. Do your research and find out how many inch drop in how many feet. Your system won't work if it is not right. I used to install septic systems but it has been over 40 years ago.
Hi Thomas that is why I made my pipe exact in the drop angle. I also mentioned it more than once so folks would understand that I thoroughly understood the 1/4" per foot drop. I went carefully down the whole pipe checking that angle. I felt I was very anal retentive about it. Pardon the pun.
If it is, he has to raise the cabin or lower the septic tank. You can raise the cabin and make a berm over the sewer line to get the depth of coverage for frost prevention in the pipe. Inadequate slope = clogged pipe every time.
Naturally I will check this out if I run sewer to the little cabin. In my favor is that the Septic tank because of land slope is considerably lower than the cabin.
Great question. Most of the pond water comes from my rainwater harvesting ability here. But 2-3 times per year I purchase water at $225.00 per delivery. Both the cows and deer can easily trot down the road to other water sources. Plus they knock rocks into the pond and the deer graze on valuable trees I just planted. For them its just recreation. Not necessity.
Local company says 100'. Then they add another 200' on just in case. The cost: Lets just say I would be paying for it past 100 years of age. Not happening here.
WOW, why so wide....Sewer/Water pipe [ looks to be 18/24" deep..]; BASIC.....All U need, MY FRIEND! Alas, gravity flow is 1 aspect.. Tools are pertinent; Beyond a "pick ax/shovel" a MADDOX IS A BACK SAVOUR..
You have a two-fer going here. One, you are getting your system built yourself, saving money and getting it done right. Two, you are getting lots of exercise, keeping yourself lean and mean. All that exercise has you looking like a young buck ranch hand!
Thanks a ton. Yep there is no way I could ever afford to have all the trenching and plumbing done. I dont have that kind of financial resources. Plus I really enjoy the learning part of all of this.
I spy with my little eye a great guy.
Thanks so very much!
Lord bless! Making me feel young again!
Glad to help. grin.
Cool hand Luke...dig those ditches boy!
Hmm. a 68 year old "boy" LOL.
@affordabledesertliving3487 haha, I'm 67. I'm still working hard as well. it keeps us young and fit! Better than a smelly gym!
😂😂
Raise/extend those clean outs to ground level, or slightly above, now. Build something creative around to conceal.
Toilet "whoosh" and flow depends upon the toilet design flow and volume of water per flush.
Know that the 1"/48" slope is minimum, more slope = better flow in the waste line.
Do you have a septic tank closed system, or septic with leach field?
Rent a trenching power tool for that 100 foot run to the cabin. That's 4 feet of slope!
Will you need to elevate the cabin floor, or have that toilet on a platform? Because I dont know if the current septic connection is 48" below.
Get that digging chore done before spring/summer heat!
Thanks for watching.
Howdy. I really enjoy your videos. I wish you would put a piece of PVC or something over the rebar sticking out of the ground. One bad stumble and you've impaled yourself.
Good point George. I had left it in place in case I mount another game camera there. But I can easily cover it as you mentioned.
@@affordabledesertliving3487I encourage you to do so--cover the top of that rebar sticking up. I jumped on such as a kid and the puncture wound it made in the bottom of my bare foot was bad!
Hey Don.. learned the 2 things you need to know to be a plumber years ago. Payday is Friday and sh*t doesn't flow uphill 😁👍
😂😂
Hilarious Paul!
You forgot hot on the left, cold on the right, then the others. 😀
@@jm-bv1wh Naw..just keeping it to the bare essentials and it was mostly a joke 😁
@@paulhunter546 That was part of the joke when I heard it the first time many years ago. It went "all you need to know to be a plumber is hot on the left, cold on the right, and sh*t goes downhill." 😀
Hello Don. I haven't checked in on your channel in a while and holy moly you've been making some serious progress on your dessert estate! Well Done!
Don, you can use 1/8 inch per foot with 3 and 4 inch pipe. 1/4 is better if you can get it. Retired plumber.
Thanks. I mentioned it more than once I used 1/4". Great to here I did that correctly.
Oh Don, I'm watching right now and can't stop admiring your work around the pond! Your endless enthusiasm for "the big house" is heart warming! But I finally understand equivalent fractions and how it applies to the septic drop! Thank you for sharing that hack and explaing it so well! Keep taking breaks and posting fun videos! Thanks!
Thanks so very much Sarah. Much appreciate the encouragement.
I am sure that you know. your cleanout sweep is backwards as your cleanout will normally point downhill... and another one should be near the cabin . (Cleanouts are normally near the source of the sewage, as you can get snakes that are as long as you want.
I guess you missed the part where he explained he will be putting in a two-way clean out. : )
yep.
Hi Don! Greetings from Austin TX where I am on vacation. Maybe Arizona next! Not surprised this video came from the trenches. You are a form of a warrior. You win this war.
Thanks Morten. Send me an email if you like.
Don, you made my year. I knew the 1/4 inch thing but that hack is awesome. Thank you for sharing that. Hopefully the chicken wire will work, I have been around cows most of my life and they are dumb to say the least. Have a super blessed week.
Wow so delighted to hear that. Yes that hack is priceless.
When I was putting in my sewer like you are, I found myself having to fill in where I'd dug too deep pretty often ... and moving a side out because my trench was getting crooked or the bend didn't bend where I expected. It's a great job to be done with! As for whether a steep drop on a toilet makes it flush better, no. As long as you have a good slope all the way, it'll flush just as well shallow or deep. With a long drop, solids can get left behind when the water hits the elbow. If you angle the pipe 45 degrees from the toilet down to the main line instead of doing a long vertical drop, it's better.
Good tip. Many thanks.
WOW After seeing the ditches you dug BY HAND I've decided your one Tough Dude. Hope I never make you mad. 😄🤣
LOL. Pretty kind hearted overall I think. Least wise friends say that.
Don there are solar panels for electric fencing. I'd bet 2 one inch wide electric fencing strips would be enough to keep the deer and cattle out of your pond.
Cougar urine would work and yes you can buy it. But then perhaps cougars would start drinking out of your pond.
Remember the wooden plywood silhouette cut outs of leaning men smoking a pip near houses/barns? They were painted all black so they looked like shadows.
Maybe a large one of those with red or yellow driveway reflector 'eyes' might be too scary for deer and cows. Couse you could always take a pee near it for affect. :))
Or the eyes could be small solar motion sensing security lights.
Fun suggestions Rags. I definitely have "kitties" at my property on occasion. They would love that cougar urine for sure. I will keep working on all of this until I have it solved and the birds can enjoy their oasis.
"Breaking news from the trenches" hehehe!
24''' maxinum from top of floor flange to top of 90, if it is more than 3' it will siphon the water out of the toilet bowl.
Hmm. didnt know that. Good tip.
Don, in Michigan a water closet vertical discharge can drop 24” before tying into the building drain. The building drain vent must be at least 1/2 the diameter of the building drain. So in your case if you turn up the 4” vertical you need a 2” vent. If you reduce to 3” you can vent with 11/2”. Good luck!
Always great to watch what your up to!
Lake Havasu 🌞 Az
Always great to have you here.
Forgot, they had an indoor root cellar. Worked pretty well. Just a month or two they used a cooler for some things. It was dirt walls with shelves. Was great
I love that level idea! Learned something new today I will need for my cabin. Also admire your manual digging skills. That’s how I learned from my grandfather when I was a young girl under his feet. Guess I better sharpen my pick ax, or “Grubbin Hoe”. That’s what we call them down here in Texas.
Yep good work out for sure.
Great work, Don. On a side note - I've been watching your videos from the beginning and I have to say, you only seem to get younger with time. Your mobility, strength, and overall appearance is remarkable. I bet all that exercise and fresh air does the body wonders.
Wow Tim that statement made my day/week! Thanks ever so much for faithfully watching these and all of the great encouragement!
Good workout...
Yes it was! Happy to be working!
Love the flush sound effects. Praying I will be able to build my own place at my age. Graduated rough carpentry framing in 2005. Healing from sickness.
Hope you get better. Thanks for watching!
Hi Don! Great to see your video, you are becoming the jack of all trades for sure. I can sense your excitement as you keep working on your property and the larger house. I still laugh when I see Leo the Lion in the pond! good luck with the mule deer, they are determined to get what they want for sure. I have them here in Colorado and I elected to just stop planting things 😀l look forward to your next video as I see a man who works on his dreams daily, very impressive Don! Have an awesome week!🥰👋👋👍👍
Many thanks for all of those encouraging comments Martha!
Getting a workout there mate. Clay, tiny pebbles, hmm That's the right country here in OZ for Opel!.
If a tennis ball will run right through your pipe work, your good to go!
Good tip mate. Thanks.
Hi Don, just found you today and I'm truly enjoying your videos. Idea for your bird feeder, get yourself some red pepper flacks and mix a good amount into the loose feed before you put it out. Maybe that'll keep the mule deer out of the loose feed. Thank you for sharing your adventures.
Delighted to have you join me here and thanks for the tips.
Your toilet flushing sound made me crack uo....lmao
Thanks glad you enjoyed the sound effects LOL.
Hi Don, I don't know if you may have already considered a 12v cattle fence. They are not injurious to animals (we used to play dare games as kids touching them). Once animals learn to recognise the line, they will keep away from it. It would keep deer and cattle at whatever distance you choose from your pond. They run on a 12v car battery.
Good tip. Many thanks.
I am amazed at how hard you work at doing hard work. None of that is easy, though you make it look fun. I can't wait to visit Donlandia, no more Disneyland for me!
Priceless! Fun and lovely comments thank you! Oh and I love the term Donlandia. Still dont have a name for my homestead yet. Maybe Blue Grosbeakville?
Another job which requires a lot of hard work but we all know that hard work doesn`t faze you at all. You are a very positive influence and good example to us all. As always Don, very well done.
late reply and so heartwarming. Thanks Graeme. Hope your having a lovely scottish spring.
Trenching is no joke! Beautiful work done Don! We are doing the same thing on our property. Digging trenches… No fun but got to get it done. I always enjoy watching your videos!! You give me a smile!
Thanks a ton Lees. So appreciate the encouragement. I actually enjoy digging to be honest. Lets me know that everything still works LOL.
Love you thanks again for everything
You are so welcome. Cheers.
You are doing a good job Don!
Many thanks! Hope your not buried in snow these days.
@@affordabledesertliving3487 Snow is all gone, lots of spring rain!
Great and informative video as always. I'm finally moving to my land in April and will be doing septic and plumbing soon. Now I will understand what needs to be done, and can properly "supervise", ha ha. I know my limitations and methinks I won't be digging my own trenches, though!
Hope it goes great for you Cheryl! Getting Plumbing done right is one of the most important jobs for sure.
Six years offgrid , I have a modern cabin , flush toilet , shower , full kitchen .
Way to go Denise! Hard work yields rewards for sure.
Ok. Your point. This isn't about your build,darling.
Thanks for sharing and Gods blessings for you
Thanks for watching Darrell.
Love this video, Don. I'm going to remember that hack with the level. Thank you!
So delighted it was helpful!
My friend had a three hole outdoor outhouse on their off grid ranch. The last visit, they had an indoor toilet, though had to use a water bucket to flush. They heated up water for the tub on the wood cook top. No running water. They were like that for 30 years. Now living in town and loving it. No cougars and coyotes and can travel again without livestock and property to worry about.
Off grid life isnt for everyone for sure. I grew up with no running water in our home etc so its kind of back to the future for me now LOL.
So nice to ‘see’ you again, Don👌💯🌵
Thanks and much appreciate that regulars like you come by and watch!
Caliche is a Spanish word for this hard stuff that is encountered at different depths when digging in the southwest. It's mostly calcium carbonate from sea animals and frequently has sand and other minerals mixed in. In the right conditions it will turn into limestone. There are fossilized coral reefs on Hiway 80.
Wow I didnt know that Wanda. Fascinating and that makes sense as I look at the content of this soil.
I hope the wire will keep the big beasts away from the pond. It is really special in the desert. A little water brings all kinds of birds. Thy for sharing your life with us.
Thanks Wanda. Once I increase the size of my rainwater harvesting setup I can be less concerned about big animals chugging the water. Also the goal is to fence all 4 acres and that will keep out wandering cows which have other sources of water.
Such a funny guy 😅
LOL Thanks Cousin Patti. Congrats on your home sale by the way!
@affordabledesertliving3487 Thank you Don! 😊 You look well and enjoying your home! 💕
The level hack is good. In shipyards they use declevity boards levels the a decline
Wow cool stuff Tim. Didnt know that.
Hi Don:
You might want to use a Long Sweep Ell
at the bottom of your water closet riser!
richard
Fort Worth
Thanks Richard. Spoiler alert. I am having a licensed master plumber go over all of my work before I bury the sewer line.
Hi Don:
Don't worry one little bit about your septic system.
Just one man living alone is no problem.
Now, for a family with a wife and bunch of kids
running in and out and flushing toilet paper down the toilet all day long,
now that would be a "Problem"!!!
Stay Safe:
richard
Fort Worth
Vertical drop is not really important with sewerage lines. You want the horizontal runs to have the proper drain angle. Keeps the solids and liquids flowing. Go with whatever the building code calls for. consider getting a strand or two of electric fence around the pond and wrap it around the wooden fence post of the bird feeder. A solar powered electric fence charger is around fifty bucks at Tractor Supply store. Wall plug ones are a lot cheaper, but not so good for off grid use. I use an electric fence charger to keep the squirrels out of my bird feeder, and it's very effective except during rainstorms when the GFCI trips out.
Also, bury one of those warning tapes along the trench above the pipe, If you have some scrap electrical wire, put a few wraps around the cleanout pipes just below the top. Also wrap the scrap wires around the pipe at the corners and Ys. these can be located with a metal detector saving future you hassle if you ever need to dig them up.
Thanks Dale good tips.
For mine I used the bubble as the measure. I found when the bubble was touching the edge of the level lines, it was good. So instead of getting the bubble inside the center lines, I sloped it just enough to set the bubble outside the line. Of course you have to make sure it's the right edge.
That makes sense coyotech55. Does that create an exact rise/fall of 1/4" per sq ft?
@@affordabledesertliving3487 No, probably not exact, but close.
Staying in shape with all the manual labor
I think it helps daniel!
Great video Don ‘. I really am looking forward to seeing all this come together. I’m even thinking of duplicating some of your build on my property. That’s if you don’t mind. Have a great week.
Hi Oscar I have replicated and then modified others builds so that they work for me, so I just assume that if what I am doing is helpful others may copy that. I am always delighted when I learn that what I do is helpful.
Thank Don . Night@@affordabledesertliving3487
I can barely dig down a foor or 18 inches at my place before hitting caleche.
Its tough stuff for sure.
They have mat with rubber "spike", it is use to deter dog and cat
Another great video Don
Thanks so much!
That was NOT a long enough break Don 🤨
You are going to make these 30 & 40 yr olds look really REALLY bad ‼️
Coming along great 🤩 You just take care of yourself ❤👵🏻👩🌾❣️
Thanks Dee. Definitely chuckled with that one. Definitely taking care of myself and so thankful for everything.
@@affordabledesertliving3487
I am grateful for every day 😉
I am very impressed with your perseverance ‼️. Keep doing what you’re doing 🥰
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We live a couple hundred miles north of you and always enjoy your videos. Our spring birds are coming back and one of my favorite is called a says Phoebe. And I'm sure you know what these are and they are making a nest on the back of my Powerhouse just like they did last year so I'm really excited! I keep a clean mixing trough out in the yard and I fill it with water for all the other birds that come and go. And I really miss the Gambel quail... up until a few weeks ago there was a flock of about 60 to 80 of them that would come by every morning and every evening for water. I think the coyote and fox have done a job on them and there's only a few around now. I would like to see a lot more of these quail, what's the best way to attract them? 😊 thanks Don.
I also have Says Phoebe here on my property but they dont nest. They nest at the neighbors across the road. I have both Gambels and Scaled Quail here. Its unlikely predators have decimated your group. They move around depending on the season. Next time your at a feed store you might want to purchase a Quail Block. Yummy seed for them and they love it. Of course that can attract rodents and then rattlers. So it depends on your habitat etc.
Hi Don, haven't seen a new video in awhile. Just checking in to make sure you're OK.
Doing super! Vids to come soon!
Did you plan the sewer system for an RV dump or an outside restroom? I'm sure that fencing off an acre is expensive and a lot of work but you could make a bird sanctuary complete with trees and some grain growing.
No plans for RV dump station. Always interested in creating a sanctuary for sure.
Great job, Don! Make sure you throw youself a Big party after that first good flush! Stay safe. Namaste. Marine Veteran, Charlie.
Thanks Charlie. Once the flush is ready I will indeed. Whew so much work to do first though. So appreciate you being here!
@@affordabledesertliving3487 One day at a time and "slow as you go!" Helped many ppl in my day building structures, cabins and garages but that was many moons ago. You are doing teaching and informing and your learning as you go. You take good care of yourself. You will get there! Veteran Charlie.
You are doing just fine on your pipes. Just be sure the backfill under your pipes is solid so the pipes won’t settle & create ups & downs in the line. Clean outs are good. I was a septic engineer for 30 years, and you are doing fine. Got risers to grade on your tank?
Thanks for the encouragement Ken! Yes! One of the super valuable lessons I learned even years ago was the 1/4" per sq ft fall of all risers. So as I mentioned in the vid I double/triple checked that part.
Gerber power flush is the best.
Does it work only with baby food though?
Just donot forget to install clean out riser with cap outside foundation.
By this time you already completed.
I will have cleanout caps above ground surface to make it easy.
I am sure you know that the fall on the sewer inside the foundation is 1/8'' per foot. Make sure on the line going to the little house has enough ground cover , that's 25'' of rise on the little house sewer line@100'
Yep totally aware of that one Richard. Thanks!
Greetings from Woodstock, NB CANADA
What a lovely surprise! Was so fantastic to meet you! So glad we connected!
The drop doesn’t matter, but no more than 3 feet, just make sure the elbow is a sweeper 90 degree bend. And of course the entire system has to be a 2 degree drop, no more, no less.
Take your side iron with you for the snakes, human and otherwise
Thanks for watching Theresa!
Thanks!
Sherry thank you so much.
No it won't flush Any better no matter how deep the fall?It's funny that you are
Are you able to help the wildlife with a raised basin at the side of your water pond
Deer would then be a problem. They not only stop by for a drink but munch every tree and plant here. Always a challenge.
I had my appendix taken out at 46. You’re biggest issue is the stitches they used to sew you up. Obviously you don’t want to break one. This could cause major issues. Make sure you’re healed properly.
Thanks for your kindness and concern. Healed up great. Just small scars now.
Maybe you could use packed gravel under the sewer pipe instead of wood or sand
Packed Sand tends to be easier on PVC. Although I am using schedule 40 which is reported to be real super impact resistant and tough.
Will you eventually put up a wire fencing around your property?
Yes indeed Connie. Thanks to kind subscriber Mareesa I have enough for the west end. Just need to obtain more for the rest of the 4 acres.
hey try a "T" post in the support ... might work better for your bird feeder??? just my two cents !!
Thanks for the suggestion and for watching Donni!
Why deprive the wild animals of water? Do they have other sources nearby?
HI Gene as I mentioned in the video the neighbors specifically put out water for the mule deer and others. For me it mostly comes down to a limited water supply. Most of my water comes from harvesting it from my roof. Every drop is precious.
When is hunting season?
For Mule Deer I believe Oct - Nov.
Caliche' is the debbil.
Not sure on Arizona plumbing code but in CA if using 4" you can use 1/8" per foot. You want the water to push the solids, not go over top of the solids.
More than once I encountered the concept that 1/4" was best. So that is what I went with. With owner/builder opt out building permit I fortunately do not have to adhere to codes. That said I found time and time again 1/4" would work great. Thanks for watching.
Don
The issue isn’t the 1/4 vs 1/8 it’s the 3 inch vs 4 inch. As the last commenter mentioned you want the water to float or push the solids out of the way. That’s why you don’t want greater than 1/4 per foot as the fluids will go too quickly and run around the solids.
I think you already know the toilet flushing question's answer. What's the difference between flushing a toilet on 2F vs. flushing one on 1F? We've all done both at least hundreds of times in our lives.
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The drop distance does not matter. The proper angle of the overall pipe is what is critical. Too steep the water goes down and the poop will stay behind and end up plugging your pipe. Too shallow and everything stays in the pipe. Do your research and find out how many inch drop in how many feet. Your system won't work if it is not right. I used to install septic systems but it has been over 40 years ago.
Hi Thomas that is why I made my pipe exact in the drop angle. I also mentioned it more than once so folks would understand that I thoroughly understood the 1/4" per foot drop. I went carefully down the whole pipe checking that angle. I felt I was very anal retentive about it. Pardon the pun.
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That’s all you need to know to be a professional plumber
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Thanks so much mhughes!
Why 1% (1/4 inch per foot)
Because you don't want the liquids going faster than the solids...
You want the liquids staying behind pushing
Totally makes sense Jim. Read and re-read the 1/4" rule before laying my pipe.
Any encounters with rattlesnakes?
Yes about 4 of them so far. But going on 4 years of being here that isnt much overall.
Is your small cabin too far away to use the 1/4” per foot of drop.
If it is, he has to raise the cabin or lower the septic tank.
You can raise the cabin and make a berm over the sewer line to get the depth of coverage for frost prevention in the pipe.
Inadequate slope = clogged pipe every time.
Naturally I will check this out if I run sewer to the little cabin. In my favor is that the Septic tank because of land slope is considerably lower than the cabin.
100 feet at 1/4" per foot is 4 foot drop from cabin to sewer connection. Is your sewer deep enough?
Are you worried about those pesky rattlesnakes hanging out around your pond?
Not really Donna. "Roadie" the roadrunner checks out the pond often. He will make short work of any snake lounging around.
Plumbing? Watch out for crack exposer. Well Dun
Thanks Geezer. So far the belts are working great if you get my drift.
I have seen rattle snake lay under water, keep eyes open
Yep always have to be prudent here for sure.
May I ask why you don't want deer or cows drinking from the pond?
Great question. Most of the pond water comes from my rainwater harvesting ability here. But 2-3 times per year I purchase water at $225.00 per delivery. Both the cows and deer can easily trot down the road to other water sources. Plus they knock rocks into the pond and the deer graze on valuable trees I just planted. For them its just recreation. Not necessity.
@@affordabledesertliving3487 Ahh, I understand.
How far would you have to drill for well water?
Local company says 100'. Then they add another 200' on just in case. The cost: Lets just say I would be paying for it past 100 years of age. Not happening here.
I am soooo confused
Happens to me sometimes as well...
Don in the ditch…. lol
Yep LOL.
If you're off grid you don't have sure you should be on septic system
Yep mandatory to get a permit to live here with the county.
WOW, why so wide....Sewer/Water pipe [ looks to be 18/24" deep..]; BASIC.....All U need, MY FRIEND! Alas, gravity flow is 1 aspect..
Tools are pertinent; Beyond a "pick ax/shovel" a MADDOX IS A BACK SAVOUR..
Yep love my maddox. Gift from a subscriber here! Why the trench so wide? So I can comfortably work in it while gluing pvc basically.
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Thanks for watching.
Where your pipe begins to run out of needs to be twelve inches under the from then on quarter inch for a fbut why are you so deep
Thanks!
So kind! Thank you!