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With only 256GB of proprietary storage. To get up to a useful 1TB requires an extra 66% of the base price, or sacrificing speed and a port with external storage.
@@EricPeelMusicexternal storage via thunderbolt, 3000mbs read and write is not slow. and you can go for 4tb if you want (for best value) with each drive. It's not a real issue except for very few things that don't allow you to choose the external drive
@@EricPeelMusicyou can get an external ssd, and some of those have insane read and write speeds. Apple really created an insane machine. Could be the best value productivity PC, beating out both ARM and X86 based computers.
Yeah, happened to me too when I bought the Mac Mini M1 😂 I have the 8 GB one and now I upgraded to the new base M4. Received it today, I’ll test it in a few hours😊
The speaker difference is WILD, the old Mac Mini's speaker was only good for hearing the chime for startup and nothing else, this New one is shockingly good for a Mono Speaker and good enough if you need sound in a pinch!
The worst thing about the new Mac mini: You can buy 2x Mac Mini 256gb/16gb ($599x2) for the same price as a single Mac Mini 512gb/32gb ($1,199). That is ridiculous.
M1 Ultra will still crush M4, a better comparison would be with M4 Pro but that’s been done many times now. How about M4 Mac mini vs M1 Max or M2 Max Mac Studio.
Max: Who's going to use 197 tracks? Me: Basic drum set with multioutput clocking in at 17 ish tracks, not counting effects, with no other instruments or audio loaded yet You'd be surprised how quickly you might reach that limit if you're working on a complex project. Not even a large project, just complex
@@prismcollectionmusic the of you’re not writing top 10 billboard hits, you shouldn’t need 197 tracks anyway. If you are, you’re not buying the base model Mac mini.
I pulled the trigger on a M4 Mac Mini and yeah it has to be the best product Apple has released in years.And the price is fantastic. And not to mention the upgradable storage cant wait for companies to release some
Wait till you see an M4 'upgrade' from 256Gb to 2Tb you need to be a rocket scientist to do it (and also need specialist hardware)... Not possible for me 😞
Exactly. Unless he means that since you have to connect and external SSD for data storage, you can upgrade that easily as you don’t even need to open it 😂
One week ago from this channel: “the #1 mistake you can make is buying the base model”…today “wow this is the best value Mac ever!” Otherwise though, great comp video.
no it's the crappy fan management apple activate the fans of their mac mini which starts to thermal throttling with the M4 pro if you manually adjust the fan and maximize it before the heavy load it will not exceed 80 degrees no thermal throttling
Google AI says, When comparing the M2 Mac mini to the M4 Mac mini, many consider the M2 to be a "rip off" because the newer M4 model offers significantly better performance at a similar price point, making the M2 seem outdated and less value for money, especially considering its larger size and potentially fewer ports compared to the compact M4 design.
I picked up the new M4 Mini on release day, the 512Gb/24Gb config to upgrade from my 2018 Mini and I can honestly say I'm highly impressed with it's performance. It's got enough power to definitely pull daily driver duties away from my custom built high end gaming PC and use a lot less power doing so. I'm not an Apple fanboy by any stretch but I can honestly say this gen of Mini is just that killer little computer that deserves the attention it's receiving.
I didn’t pick it up launch day, just ordered last night but same otherwise. I upgraded the RAM to run Parallels with a little more head room. And the SSD for R/W speed. Good choice!
My M1 Mini is still more than adequate to do photo editing but it’s 512 gig SSD is full and my 2 TB external SSD DIED. So I am torn between paying for an M4 with 1 TB or carrying on with the M1 and a new external SSD. My old i5 Intel with Intel graphics mini unused to take about 3 minutes to upsize a 16 Mb photo in Pixelmator pro. The M1 takes 10 seconds. The M4 isn’t going to improve that in any meaningful way. Still the top M4 pro with 24 gigs of RAM and a 1 TB internal SSD is $1799 - an amount I gladly spent on home built Windows machines back in the day. Thanks for the comprehensive comparison.
I hope you run the M4 pro version at full fan speed to reduce thermal throttling. Or maybe discover that it's not worth going above the binned Pro because of throttling?
1:25 No, the two front USB-C ports do not become Thunderbolt 5 ports when you get the Pro version. The front ports stay as USB-C across the board. The three rear Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M4 become Thunderbolt 5 with the M4 Pro devices.
I like the front audio jack so I can plug in my mic and headphones. I also like the front USB ports for my hw security key and a dongle. The performance is so strong that I anticipate it will last for many years to come. My 2019 mbp is still running great, but this is only $200 after trade-in, so it is kind of a no-brainer upgrade
Please do one of your Mac vs PC comparisons with the unbinned M4 Max MacBook Pro 16” vs a tower desktop PC with a top-tier Intel or AMD processor and a 4080 or 4090. I recall you guys doing something like this in the past, but it’s been awhile.
Dude. I lold, our famous MacBook speaker comparison. I’m glad you guys are are moving on, becoming more nuanced, with mini speaker comparison. You guys are the best. Long time fan
The base Mac Mini I will buy next month the entry level is enough for me I am an IT Pro and the m1 mini is still great as my daily driver, but the mac mini m4 is a massive upgrade not to be walked past :) Steve Jobs would have been so proud of this, no holds barred entry level computer that wipes the floor with anything other than another m4.
wow! and thanks so much for the speaker/music playing test because I've always wanted to know more about it for the Mac mini! How does it compare to the current MacBook Air? And 14" MacBook Pro?
Are there any plans to do a M4 MacMini Pro vs M4 MacMini Base? Would love to see how much better it is and if that small chassis can actually cool it, how much it throttles (maybe even compared to the MBP 16 with M4 Pro), and what the fan noice difference would be.
Big thanks for the sound test , I did ask you on one of your previous videos about hearing the sound on the Mac mini's as I've never heard any of the sounds on the previous models and I really appreciate that ❤
Man the designers and engineers really worked on this one. Hats off to apple this year for this mac. This really should touch the niche where people desired apple but couldn't afford.
It's nice seeing a UA-camr saying that the M4 chip is more than good enough, rather than the rest of these UA-cam channels advocating for the M4 Pro without even considering how good the M4 is. The vast majority of users don't need the Pro chip but they're just getting fooled into it.
Will the M4 base mac mini support 3 displays over USB C? Or only 2 plus 1 over HDMI? I know M4 Pro can do all 3 over USB C. Can't find any answers anywhere.
I set up mine yesterday. The most important thing is the overall experince. I love what I find so far. I did get the 512GB model though. Is the write speed the same as the base model?
I opted for the M4 Pro model and was trying to run three 4K monitor off of the TB5 and HDMI ports, leaving the third TB5 port for external storage. The issue I seem to be having is when the Mini wakes up from Sleep the two TB5 attached monitors wake, but the HDMI attached monitor power indicator lights as if its woke, but there’s no display. When I run all three TB5 ports to the three monitors, all is well. Is there a TB5 hub I can use to tun all three 4K monitors at 60hz leaving me with the two remaining TB5 ports for other uses?
If you get the opportunity to run a comparison between the m1 max macbook pro and the new m4, i think it would be great to get an idea of the difference between the best of the 1st gen n the new gen chip. Im thinking if base m4 mac mini would beat my m1 max mbp for editing and worth an “upgrade”
Love the video Max! I own a 1st gen M1 Macbook Pro. Do you think the M4 Mac mini would be good to upgrade for video editing? In Premiere Pro I edit weddings, quinceaneras, events, etc. If so, what specs would you recommend?
Could you do a test running the Mac mini with an external nvme sad as the boot drive. Apple's storage upgrade cost are ridiculous. How much of a hit in performance does it make?
I want to buy the Mac Mini M4 Pro, but I don't know whether to go for the 12 CPU core version or get the 14 CPU core version. Should I pay more for the extra cores or is it not worth it?
It's nice to see the progress of the M chip Mac mini. I'm a Windows guy, but have been a fan of the Mac mini since the M1 Mac Mini. I will miss the Type A port.
Hi. I am looking for mac for rendering and 3d modelling and architectural work. Please suggest me best option that I can get which will be future proof. I would like to use D5 render and lumion for my work.
Thank you for these tests 😃👌🏻 How about fan noise in normal usage, while video editing, while coding etc? Sounds like the new Mini is not as silent as the old one which would be quite bad.
Even though it’s evident that using the new M4 Mac mini will be superior, could you compare the Mac mini Pro M1, Mac mini Pro Max M1, and the base M4 model to see the differences?
600 is absolutely the right price for something like this. The tech is mature now, so they can’t add an early adopter tax on it. You don’t get a screen, accessories, or anything. I think this is a really solid product for the price, only gripe is not having a larger SSD at base. If this had 1TB at base it would be the only non laptop computer I recommend for people in my life who don’t want to game.
also the RAM, I won't complain if they priced the storage and ram upgrade in accordingly. Apple really know how to screw the customers. ita will cost extra $800 for upgrading to 32gigs and 1tb🤷♂️.
I just picked up a mint used M2pro with 1tb and 32Gb ram for $900. I prefer the ports selection (4 x tb4 and 2 x usb A), I also prefer the audio on the back as I use desktop speakers. And finally I prefer the size as I won’t be carrying it in a backpack anywhere and it’s more stable. I won’t mention the power button… The mini m4 is a much better deal new, but I feel this is better deal for my needs.
Should I buy the M4 Mac mini with the m4 or m4 pro for my use case? I debate between the base m4 chip 16gb ram 512gb ssd for half the price or the m4 pro chip 24gb ram and 512gb. I need it for beginners photo and video editing, programming, web browsing, watching yt videos, listening to music and podcasts with high quality audio interface and headphones amp, and media consumption.
Just get the base M4 chip with 24GB RAM, and if you need more storage hook up an external SSD to it. Unless you really want to just spend the money, then go for the M4 Pro.
For what you mentioned the regular M4 is great. If you're trying to get into super intense video processing the M4 pro is the route. I bought the M4 with 512 SSD and 24 Gb unified memory along with the base M4 Pro. The regular M4 really impressed me, and I'm using it for stuff I thought I wouldn't.
@@legacyShredder1Can you please make a video comparison between the base and the pro models in terms of fan noise (idle, medium workload, full) and thermals? That’s the only thing that holds me from pulling the trigger for the Pro version
@@legacyShredder1 The speed difference was significant in the previous generation, but that's not the case anymore. There are 2 NANDs on the chip this time, so it won't be anywhere near as slow as it was previously.
Based on the benchmarks I was expecting far better results in Lightroom (11:32) and Final Cut (12:15). Is there a mistake here? I mean how is even the M2 Pro not much better than the M1/M2 in those tests? I'm still on my M1 and guess I definitely wouldn't get an M4, but was already planning on getting M4 Pro which seemed to do the same Lightroom test in 25 seconds.
It's great u r comparing these old and current gen Macs performance, but u should also create separate vid comparing GAMING performance of the native as well as translated games to see how it has progressed. I can guarantee u it will help your channel grow, just make sure these vids contain info like OS, game and API versions with of course same game settings. It would be also great to add optimization rating based on your experience. Games r still most popular apps so it would make sense to enter this field as well.
Get an external ssd or upgrade the nand chip to 2TB(in china the upgrade may cost you around $200-$250 or maybe less) if that kind of service is available in your place.
I have a question for you: Someone said their M4 Pro Mac Mini was getting very hot, so they returned it, fearing it would burn itself up. Do you have any thoughts on this?
So essentially the price / performance gap is so good that the next Mac Mini will be updated in 2026, thus giving this a M6 and M6 Pro chips. Thus the M6 will be capable of the M5 Pro chip. I don’t expect Apple to update Mac Mini in 2025.
"this is what the Mac mini should have always been"... In 2010 the old design was pretty groundbreaking. Intel NUCs were not yet a thing... and there was a DVD drive in it. Did Apple wait too long to update the design? Probably... but at least they waited until they could make the redesign a big deal.
When you only upgrade your cases every few years the upgrade looks massive. All of these price and size improvements have been a long time coming and the community has been asking for years. They did the right thing on the ram finally but Storage is still in the range price gouging on that mac mini.
@MaxTechOfficial thank you for this comprehensive review. I’m a big fan of your channel and I am looking forward for the detailed review of Mac Mini M4 Pro. I am thorned between the Mac Mini M4 and the Mac Mini M4 Pro model (both with 24GB RAM and 512GB SSD). I keep my PC’s for a very longtime so I want to future proof it as much as I can. I plan to do some advanced 4K@60fps video editing with footage from my iPhone using DaVinci Resolve. I am very sensitive to fan noise and I am afraid that the Mac Mini M4 Pro is louder than the Mac Mini M4.
I hate Geekbench; the results are inconsistent. Last year, it was all about how ‘the M3 is a big leap in power,’ but this year, with the release of the M4, the difference between the M2 and M3 seems to have vanished. Suddenly, the ‘M4 is incredibly faster than the M3.’ I like Apple, but the Mac Mini is still a scam-the SSD is slower than the M1 Mac Mini. Seriously, Apple: 256GB as the base storage, and only 16GB of RAM due to Apple’s ‘intelligence’; otherwise, it’s 8GB for another five years. Stop letting marketing manipulate you. Apple spends more on marketing than on Mac development. The M1 was only 50% faster, and the M4 doesn’t beat the M2 Pro (this is an honest opinion; if you don’t believe me, that’s your problem, but it’s the sad truth.we just had a new design it's the same you're going to say it's a good deal 16gb of ram!! it costs $20 to produce 8gb extra apple makes you dream of things that must be a standard
Definitely upgrade to 512GB. The write speed will be a lot faster but not so much the read. Probably will match the performance of M2 Pro SSD you see in this video
I was looking at buying an M1 for music production, but the prices make no sense... Why haven't prices come down on the m1s? For what you gain with the M4, I might as well spend the extra $100/200. This should have plummeted the price of the M1
In all fairness, the pc i'd recommend to my uncle is g3 mini that i can get for $50 and linux, but for me on the other hand...yes looking forward to an m4 pro benchmark comparison.
11:20 "But in the real world who's gonna would use that many tracks?" 197 tracks is nothing when it comes to film composers, if you didn't know yet. Well I guess those people including myself would be using Mac Studio or Mac Pro anyway... just saying.
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'pound'? it is not the dark ages anymore, use standard units of measurement!
Could you do review M4 vs M4 Pro in Adobe Premiere
Interesting you used the iPad 10th generation. Perfect example on how the iPad Pro 11” is more of a luxury rather than valuable.
The 600 dollar mac mini is definitely a killer deal, finally an good apple product that isn't a premium price
With only 256GB of proprietary storage. To get up to a useful 1TB requires an extra 66% of the base price, or sacrificing speed and a port with external storage.
@@EricPeelMusicexternal storage via thunderbolt, 3000mbs read and write is not slow. and you can go for 4tb if you want (for best value) with each drive. It's not a real issue except for very few things that don't allow you to choose the external drive
@@EricPeelMusic"external SSD"
A clearance M1 or M2 will only be even better
@@EricPeelMusicyou can get an external ssd, and some of those have insane read and write speeds. Apple really created an insane machine. Could be the best value productivity PC, beating out both ARM and X86 based computers.
I bought the new Mac mini. I had no idea a speaker was inclosed and was surprised to hear the Mac startup chime with no speakers connected.
Yeah, happened to me too when I bought the Mac Mini M1 😂 I have the 8 GB one and now I upgraded to the new base M4. Received it today, I’ll test it in a few hours😊
What about a microphone? Does it have it?
@@skkver_runswhy would it have one ?
can u connect external speakers via cable ?
@ if I’m correct I’ve read it has one
This is Mac mini's M1 moment. By far the most impressive desktop computer ever created by Apple.
The speaker difference is WILD, the old Mac Mini's speaker was only good for hearing the chime for startup and nothing else, this New one is shockingly good for a Mono Speaker and good enough if you need sound in a pinch!
Using it as a mini speaker right now lol. sounds GREAT!
@@MaxTechOfficial how is it compared to the iPad Air's speakers?
The worst thing about the new Mac mini: You can buy 2x Mac Mini 256gb/16gb ($599x2) for the same price as a single Mac Mini 512gb/32gb ($1,199). That is ridiculous.
Who cares. Buy what you need or don’t buy it
Just don’t get it. Won’t they make more money if they make the price tiers less ridiculous, so they get more people getting higher tiers?
@@tototoleelee1993 no
Isn't a ryzen mini PC better
@@GoldenGuy6881 no
I got the base model new Mini paired with my Pro XDR display. It’s butter smooth. Pls. Compare M1 Ultra Mac Studio to Base M4 mini.
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M1 Ultra will still crush M4, a better comparison would be with M4 Pro but that’s been done many times now. How about M4 Mac mini vs M1 Max or M2 Max Mac Studio.
Max: Who's going to use 197 tracks?
Me: Basic drum set with multioutput clocking in at 17 ish tracks, not counting effects, with no other instruments or audio loaded yet
You'd be surprised how quickly you might reach that limit if you're working on a complex project. Not even a large project, just complex
How many billboard hits have you written? Just curious
@@mikelmarion what's your point here?
@@mikelmarionhow many have YOU written?
@@prismcollectionmusic the of you’re not writing top 10 billboard hits, you shouldn’t need 197 tracks anyway. If you are, you’re not buying the base model Mac mini.
@@mikelmarion I don't think whoever this person is needs the pop music market to dictate to them what sort of music they are allowed to record.
I pulled the trigger on a M4 Mac Mini and yeah it has to be the best product Apple has released in years.And the price is fantastic. And not to mention the upgradable storage cant wait for companies to release some
Wait till you see an M4 'upgrade' from 256Gb to 2Tb you need to be a rocket scientist to do it (and also need specialist hardware)... Not possible for me 😞
Exactly. Unless he means that since you have to connect and external SSD for data storage, you can upgrade that easily as you don’t even need to open it 😂
@@Batwam0 So i can connect an external SSD? Cause 256 is not much for video editing
@@liquidsnow1 of course you can
@@liquidsnow1 where have you been living?
I love the speaker test. Nobody does that.
When I comes to mini pc this packs in a psu and speaker, ready to go. What a package 📦
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One week ago from this channel: “the #1 mistake you can make is buying the base model”…today “wow this is the best value Mac ever!” Otherwise though, great comp video.
Thanks! This is a video that just had to be made and I’m glad you guys did it! Keep on doing the killer tech reviews and being honest!
yo brother can you give me 20$
Wait...if the M4 is throttling because of the smaller enclosure, should we be concerned about putting an M4 Pro in the new macMini?
Yes lol. Testing tomorrow and video should be up next week
The m4 pro has a larger heatsink
@@MaxTechOfficial they put copper in the cooler of the Mac mini m4 pro
no it's the crappy fan management apple activate the fans of their mac mini which starts to thermal throttling with the M4 pro if you manually adjust the fan and maximize it before the heavy load it will not exceed 80 degrees no thermal throttling
Google AI says,
When comparing the M2 Mac mini to the M4 Mac mini, many consider the M2 to be a "rip off" because the newer M4 model offers significantly better performance at a similar price point, making the M2 seem outdated and less value for money, especially considering its larger size and potentially fewer ports compared to the compact M4 design.
The M4 mac mini speaker seems very solid for casual use.
Yes. I used it as speaker for zoom and it’s very clear!
11:30 “But who is gonna use the many tracks in the real world?” Wintersun!!! That’s who.
Virtual bands and virtual choirs easily get there! 😂
My Mac mini M1 is still running great and these comparisons show how great and efficient the M1 really is.
I picked up the new M4 Mini on release day, the 512Gb/24Gb config to upgrade from my 2018 Mini and I can honestly say I'm highly impressed with it's performance. It's got enough power to definitely pull daily driver duties away from my custom built high end gaming PC and use a lot less power doing so. I'm not an Apple fanboy by any stretch but I can honestly say this gen of Mini is just that killer little computer that deserves the attention it's receiving.
I didn’t pick it up launch day, just ordered last night but same otherwise. I upgraded the RAM to run Parallels with a little more head room. And the SSD for R/W speed. Good choice!
Holy moly I was NOT expecting the Mac Mini's speakers to sound that good!!
My M1 Mini is still more than adequate to do photo editing but it’s 512 gig SSD is full and my 2 TB external SSD DIED. So I am torn between paying for an M4 with 1 TB or carrying on with the M1 and a new external SSD. My old i5 Intel with Intel graphics mini unused to take about 3 minutes to upsize a 16 Mb photo in Pixelmator pro. The M1 takes 10 seconds. The M4 isn’t going to improve that in any meaningful way. Still the top M4 pro with 24 gigs of RAM and a 1 TB internal SSD is $1799 - an amount I gladly spent on home built Windows machines back in the day. Thanks for the comprehensive comparison.
for $1700 you could easily build good desktop pc.🤌
13:02 “A minute and 4 D seconds”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
2:13 A moment of silence for the Max Tech national anthem 🫡
thanks for testing and showing the wattage results. Nobody does that. Your graphs and the things you test and show are really good.
I hope you run the M4 pro version at full fan speed to reduce thermal throttling. Or maybe discover that it's not worth going above the binned Pro because of throttling?
1:25 No, the two front USB-C ports do not become Thunderbolt 5 ports when you get the Pro version. The front ports stay as USB-C across the board. The three rear Thunderbolt 4 ports on the M4 become Thunderbolt 5 with the M4 Pro devices.
I like the front audio jack so I can plug in my mic and headphones. I also like the front USB ports for my hw security key and a dongle. The performance is so strong that I anticipate it will last for many years to come. My 2019 mbp is still running great, but this is only $200 after trade-in, so it is kind of a no-brainer upgrade
can u connect external speakers via cable ?
Yes. From the front audio port, or USB from the front or back if your speakers are USB.
If you want ram through it’s nearly 4x the price, so you then look at the pro, max offerings the upgrade paths are genius
No it’s not even double for more ram
I want to run AI models for image generation locally. Do you recommend the m2 pro or m4 non pro?
So the GPU on the M2 Mac mini pro is better than the M4 Mac mini?
Please do one of your Mac vs PC comparisons with the unbinned M4 Max MacBook Pro 16” vs a tower desktop PC with a top-tier Intel or AMD processor and a 4080 or 4090. I recall you guys doing something like this in the past, but it’s been awhile.
About the Logic test. What is behind the 130 tracks you were able to reach? How do you define a track?
Dude. I lold, our famous MacBook speaker comparison. I’m glad you guys are are moving on, becoming more nuanced, with mini speaker comparison. You guys are the best. Long time fan
The base Mac Mini I will buy next month the entry level is enough for me I am an IT Pro and the m1 mini is still great as my daily driver, but the mac mini m4 is a massive upgrade not to be walked past :) Steve Jobs would have been so proud of this, no holds barred entry level computer that wipes the floor with anything other than another m4.
wow! and thanks so much for the speaker/music playing test because I've always wanted to know more about it for the Mac mini! How does it compare to the current MacBook Air? And 14" MacBook Pro?
M4 Pro 24GB vs M4 32GB -> The most asked question on reddit and what I’m also interested in!
Can you make that happen?
M4 Pro is a beast for GPU power and has more cores, so easily a M4 Pro 24GB
I was wondering the same and went with the PRO 24GB.
M4 Pro only if you need more GPU power and if you need more CPU cores. If not the M4 will be fine.
Can you use it on your m1 iMac? Just using it as a monitor/speaker?
Are there any plans to do a M4 MacMini Pro vs M4 MacMini Base? Would love to see how much better it is and if that small chassis can actually cool it, how much it throttles (maybe even compared to the MBP 16 with M4 Pro), and what the fan noice difference would be.
Is the Mac mini good enough for after effects, photoshop and 3d rendering?
Big thanks for the sound test , I did ask you on one of your previous videos about hearing the sound on the Mac mini's as I've never heard any of the sounds on the previous models and I really appreciate that ❤
Glad so many people enjoyed it!
Man the designers and engineers really worked on this one. Hats off to apple this year for this mac. This really should touch the niche where people desired apple but couldn't afford.
It's nice seeing a UA-camr saying that the M4 chip is more than good enough, rather than the rest of these UA-cam channels advocating for the M4 Pro without even considering how good the M4 is. The vast majority of users don't need the Pro chip but they're just getting fooled into it.
Will the M4 base mac mini support 3 displays over USB C? Or only 2 plus 1 over HDMI?
I know M4 Pro can do all 3 over USB C.
Can't find any answers anywhere.
I set up mine yesterday. The most important thing is the overall experince. I love what I find so far. I did get the 512GB model though. Is the write speed the same as the base model?
My BlackMagic disk speed test shows Read 3415 MB/s and Write 3013 MB/sec for 16GB/512GB version.
@@matjazprah3509 Yes I just did the same, around the same 3500 read 3000 write on average. Not sure how Max does his write tests.
@@NeilSnapePhotography I already noticed in several reviews that base model 16/256 has much slower internal SSD...
@@matjazprah3509 Glad I made the blind choice to go to 512GB then, as my iMac was above 256GB already.
@@NeilSnapePhotographyit's still slower than the m4 pro mac mini.
I opted for the M4 Pro model and was trying to run three 4K monitor off of the TB5 and HDMI ports, leaving the third TB5 port for external storage. The issue I seem to be having is when the Mini wakes up from Sleep the two TB5 attached monitors wake, but the HDMI attached monitor power indicator lights as if its woke, but there’s no display. When I run all three TB5 ports to the three monitors, all is well. Is there a TB5 hub I can use to tun all three 4K monitors at 60hz leaving me with the two remaining TB5 ports for other uses?
The speaker comparison is what I have been waiting for. Dave2D said the new speaker is much better, but he didn’t provide a comparison.
Could you please add some games as benchmarks next time?
Gaming is the only thing holding me back from switching to Mac.
If you get the opportunity to run a comparison between the m1 max macbook pro and the new m4, i think it would be great to get an idea of the difference between the best of the 1st gen n the new gen chip. Im thinking if base m4 mac mini would beat my m1 max mbp for editing and worth an “upgrade”
Love the video Max! I own a 1st gen M1 Macbook Pro. Do you think the M4 Mac mini would be good to upgrade for video editing? In Premiere Pro I edit weddings, quinceaneras, events, etc. If so, what specs would you recommend?
this is the exact test that i was looking for.... TYSM
Could you do a test running the Mac mini with an external nvme sad as the boot drive. Apple's storage upgrade cost are ridiculous. How much of a hit in performance does it make?
Ur the benchmark king
Hey Max, thank you for the great review. What about noise level? M4 has fan but M1 does not.
I want to buy the Mac Mini M4 Pro, but I don't know whether to go for the 12 CPU core version or get the 14 CPU core version. Should I pay more for the extra cores or is it not worth it?
I will just wait for an year and buy a good condition used m4 pro mac mini for a very good price.
It's nice to see the progress of the M chip Mac mini. I'm a Windows guy, but have been a fan of the Mac mini since the M1 Mac Mini. I will miss the Type A port.
Hi. I am looking for mac for rendering and 3d modelling and architectural work. Please suggest me best option that I can get which will be future proof. I would like to use D5 render and lumion for my work.
Is a new studio display coming this year? Cant justify the price with the built-in power cord.
Thank you for these tests 😃👌🏻 How about fan noise in normal usage, while video editing, while coding etc? Sounds like the new Mini is not as silent as the old one which would be quite bad.
I can’t believe the also fit the power supply internally! This is a fantastic device - really good value.
The speaker really is a surprise.
Without the front ports the M4 Mac mini would truly be a thing of beauty. And yeah, I do realize most people will find them 'useful'.
Not surprising. Hardware and software is already so optimized for video that a low end chip like m4 can edit multiple 4K streams at once.
What do i need to run Civ7 at top speed is what i need to know…..
If you upgrade to 512GB SSD is it a better quality like on the M4 Pro?
I think it speed is limited by the chip controller in the base m4.🤷♂️
Looking forward to the M4 Pro review/comparison! Thank you for all your hard work on this!
What is the performance compared to AMD R9 with 780m NUC? For similar price, I can get it with 32gb ram and 2T storage
Thank you for doing the speaker test, appreciate it :)
Even though it’s evident that using the new M4 Mac mini will be superior, could you compare the Mac mini Pro M1, Mac mini Pro Max M1, and the base M4 model to see the differences?
600 is absolutely the right price for something like this. The tech is mature now, so they can’t add an early adopter tax on it. You don’t get a screen, accessories, or anything.
I think this is a really solid product for the price, only gripe is not having a larger SSD at base. If this had 1TB at base it would be the only non laptop computer I recommend for people in my life who don’t want to game.
Why not use an external SSD?
also the RAM, I won't complain if they priced the storage and ram upgrade in accordingly. Apple really know how to screw the customers. ita will cost extra $800 for upgrading to 32gigs and 1tb🤷♂️.
I just picked up a mint used M2pro with 1tb and 32Gb ram for $900.
I prefer the ports selection (4 x tb4 and 2 x usb A), I also prefer the audio on the back as I use desktop speakers. And finally I prefer the size as I won’t be carrying it in a backpack anywhere and it’s more stable.
I won’t mention the power button…
The mini m4 is a much better deal new, but I feel this is better deal for my needs.
good deal👍
Should I buy the M4 Mac mini with the m4 or m4 pro for my use case? I debate between the base m4 chip 16gb ram 512gb ssd for half the price or the m4 pro chip 24gb ram and 512gb. I need it for beginners photo and video editing, programming, web browsing, watching yt videos, listening to music and podcasts with high quality audio interface and headphones amp, and media consumption.
Just get the base M4 chip with 24GB RAM, and if you need more storage hook up an external SSD to it. Unless you really want to just spend the money, then go for the M4 Pro.
For what you mentioned the regular M4 is great. If you're trying to get into super intense video processing the M4 pro is the route. I bought the M4 with 512 SSD and 24 Gb unified memory along with the base M4 Pro. The regular M4 really impressed me, and I'm using it for stuff I thought I wouldn't.
@@Skeptouchos If he does upgrade to the 512 Gb SSD he will get faster read and write times.
@@legacyShredder1Can you please make a video comparison between the base and the pro models in terms of fan noise (idle, medium workload, full) and thermals? That’s the only thing that holds me from pulling the trigger for the Pro version
@@legacyShredder1 The speed difference was significant in the previous generation, but that's not the case anymore. There are 2 NANDs on the chip this time, so it won't be anywhere near as slow as it was previously.
Based on the benchmarks I was expecting far better results in Lightroom (11:32) and Final Cut (12:15). Is there a mistake here? I mean how is even the M2 Pro not much better than the M1/M2 in those tests? I'm still on my M1 and guess I definitely wouldn't get an M4, but was already planning on getting M4 Pro which seemed to do the same Lightroom test in 25 seconds.
It's great u r comparing these old and current gen Macs performance, but u should also create separate vid comparing GAMING performance of the native as well as translated games to see how it has progressed. I can guarantee u it will help your channel grow, just make sure these vids contain info like OS, game and API versions with of course same game settings. It would be also great to add optimization rating based on your experience. Games r still most popular apps so it would make sense to enter this field as well.
Value? Apple $400 to upgrade to 1TB, or retail, $111 for A Samsung 990 Pro that is more than twice as fast.
Don't act like you cannot buy an external SSD
Get an external ssd or upgrade the nand chip to 2TB(in china the upgrade may cost you around $200-$250 or maybe less) if that kind of service is available in your place.
the amount of value is good, until you want 256gb extra ssh and 8gb extra ram, boom.. 400 ish usd in my country
Then, the value just disappears. For future proofing it is essential to upgrade atleast the RAM. 🤷♂️
Can you make a video on m4 mini that either it can work on 10000mah powerbank ?
I would love to see how much difference there is in fluidity when designing in Fusion (360).
Can we please test the base mac mini with upgraded storage speed.. esp 512GB and 1TB?
My BlackMagic disk speed test shows Read 3415 MB/s and Write 3013 MB/sec for version 16GB/512GB.
@ thank you :) which means M4 pro’s SSD module is indeed a different speed
Some more of a Photoshop comparison would be nice. Like neural skin smoothing/ gen AI / remove tools etc. Awesome video guys.
I don't mind the Mac mini being bigger. That's more space for air circulation. the cooler the electronics the longer the life.
I have a question for you: Someone said their M4 Pro Mac Mini was getting very hot, so they returned it, fearing it would burn itself up. Do you have any thoughts on this?
So essentially the price / performance gap is so good that the next Mac Mini will be updated in 2026, thus giving this a M6 and M6 Pro chips. Thus the M6 will be capable of the M5 Pro chip. I don’t expect Apple to update Mac Mini in 2025.
Yes, you nailed it. Don't expect a Mac mini update until M6 chips.
This means it's the perfect time for people to upgrade!
"this is what the Mac mini should have always been"... In 2010 the old design was pretty groundbreaking. Intel NUCs were not yet a thing... and there was a DVD drive in it. Did Apple wait too long to update the design? Probably... but at least they waited until they could make the redesign a big deal.
When you only upgrade your cases every few years the upgrade looks massive. All of these price and size improvements have been a long time coming and the community has been asking for years. They did the right thing on the ram finally but Storage is still in the range price gouging on that mac mini.
@MaxTechOfficial thank you for this comprehensive review. I’m a big fan of your channel and I am looking forward for the detailed review of Mac Mini M4 Pro. I am thorned between the Mac Mini M4 and the Mac Mini M4 Pro model (both with 24GB RAM and 512GB SSD). I keep my PC’s for a very longtime so I want to future proof it as much as I can. I plan to do some advanced 4K@60fps video editing with footage from my iPhone using DaVinci Resolve. I am very sensitive to fan noise and I am afraid that the Mac Mini M4 Pro is louder than the Mac Mini M4.
Can the m4 be powered via usb-c?
I hate Geekbench; the results are inconsistent. Last year, it was all about how ‘the M3 is a big leap in power,’ but this year, with the release of the M4, the difference between the M2 and M3 seems to have vanished. Suddenly, the ‘M4 is incredibly faster than the M3.’ I like Apple, but the Mac Mini is still a scam-the SSD is slower than the M1 Mac Mini. Seriously, Apple: 256GB as the base storage, and only 16GB of RAM due to Apple’s ‘intelligence’; otherwise, it’s 8GB for another five years. Stop letting marketing manipulate you. Apple spends more on marketing than on Mac development. The M1 was only 50% faster, and the M4 doesn’t beat the M2 Pro (this is an honest opinion; if you don’t believe me, that’s your problem, but it’s the sad truth.we just had a new design it's the same you're going to say it's a good deal 16gb of ram!! it costs $20 to produce 8gb extra apple makes you dream of things that must be a standard
In the Mac mini sub Reddit, people are complaining there is a display issue with the hdmi cable! Any problems with that so far?
I don’t really care much for the smaller size. The old one was already small enough, plus I have a matching dock that now won’t fit the new size.
Do you recommend upgrade the storage to 512gb or base is fine? And how much slower is base model than upgraded 512gb ssd?
Definitely upgrade to 512GB. The write speed will be a lot faster but not so much the read.
Probably will match the performance of M2 Pro SSD you see in this video
My BlackMagic disk speed test shows Read 3415 MB/s and write 3013 MB/sec for Mac mini M4 16/512.
I can't recall a better value Apple, let alone PC, for this price. Incredible.
I was looking at buying an M1 for music production, but the prices make no sense...
Why haven't prices come down on the m1s?
For what you gain with the M4, I might as well spend the extra $100/200.
This should have plummeted the price of the M1
I found a good deal on m2 pro mac mini (600$) it's 512gb / 16gb ran
Should i buy it? Or buy the base m4 ?
is it brand new one?
@@niyazzmoithu20 i bought the m2 pro 16gb of ram and 512 of storage and am blown away . . .
It performed waaaaay better than expected
@@niyazzmoithu20 used and i bought it
The m2 pro mac mini
The size difference is absolutely insane
In all fairness, the pc i'd recommend to my uncle is g3 mini that i can get for $50 and linux, but for me on the other hand...yes looking forward to an m4 pro benchmark comparison.
Can you share that portable monitor link?
yes for sure: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C16DXSCZ
@ Thank you.
2:30 "These speakers." No. This speaker, there is only one of them fitted.
11:20 "But in the real world who's gonna would use that many tracks?" 197 tracks is nothing when it comes to film composers, if you didn't know yet. Well I guess those people including myself would be using Mac Studio or Mac Pro anyway... just saying.
But let's not forget about the price ladder. The M4 mac mini is actually $800. Who would sell a desktop computer with less than 512Gb of storage?