@TranceElevation I see something like continuity between Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Moldova and Ukraine in costumes, music, dances and styles in songs.
The name Balaton comes from Blatnograd, magyar boy :) The history do not start with the magyar invasion in 9 th century :) Principality of Lower Pannonia was under franish rule :) On the other side of danube was Bulgaria, magyar boy :)
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Why is this comment of yours spam? I searched for it hard and long! Oaks are perfectly at home on Thracian tombs. Bonfini says the Greeks thought of them as Dacians(+Goths) since they used the same language. The Phrygians are of them as well. They allied and KIN with the Gepids (Us). VII. Constantinus wrote to Michael Rhetor Manuel caesar an ode on how he managed to allienate these two people, who once drank from two sides of the same river, and are the same in spirit (as seen in the dances).
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Tordos-Vinca Culture, Szakálhát Culture, Battleaxe&Linear Pottery Culture in Transylvania and Etelköz at the same time, Baden-Pecel Culture You can't have any pple without a centrepoint, and the centrepoint from the Balkans to Western Europe is the Carpathian Basin that throughout the Würm Iceage and both Dryas iceages in Eurasia is the most North-West uncovered dryland. Also it was isolated land.This is from where the Gravetti, then the Thracians sprang as well. But we've always remained here.
If you ask some English or American musician, after you give him to listen 10 Macedonian and 10 Bulgarian songs, unfortunately, most of them can't hear the difference. Same thing is if you ask some Bulgarian musician to tell the difference between Native American tribe music - every tribe have a different music. Same is if you ask some folk/ethno musician from Balkan to tell the difference between Engl.and American Rock. In most cases, they don't hear major differences...
It is different because there is no Slavic ethnicity there are ethnic groups who speak closely related languages Poles Russians Ukrainians are different from the Bulgarians and other Balkan nations булгариан folklore is richest in the world
Bulgarian are Tatars from east and they mixed with Slavic and take everything from Slavic people,language and danses!!! From Serbs!!! But,I love them !!! Bravo.❤❤❤❤❤ "Bulgars. The Bulgars (also Bolgars or proto-Bulgarians) were a semi-nomadic people of Turkic descent, originally from Central Asia, who from the 2nd century onwards dwelled in the steppes north of the Caucasus and around the banks of river Volga (then Itil)." "Are Serbs the oldest Slavs? The Serbs who are the oldest Slavs had inhabited the Podunavlje region - the Danube River area - the ancient Ister from the time immemorial as found in records which describe the numerous Illyric - Thracian tribes. This is today widely known and clear to every serious researcher and intellectual."
@@oliveradimitrijevic1843 Nope, historians have disputed the myth that Bulgarians are of Turkic descent, neither are they slavic. They are simply bulgars, it's because of such common misconceptions that their ethnicity is falsely perceived
Can anyone give me more info about the dance at 5:22? What region is it and what is that streamer thing the women are holding? Any info is appreciated!
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I've played the Bulgarian drum, because we didn't have Csángó Hungarian, it was just as well to play. The link you linked to me, by the way, I wanted to say is that according to tradition, we don't have women play any long shaped mouth instrument, those are mens' instruments. Just like the Native Americans (also considered türkic, Altai, go research) women are supposed to keep the rhythm, the base keeping is our role (modernization mixed this). /watch?v=Eds-h770iq4 This one's a clearer version.
@TranceElevation Yes, in Besarabia, but I mean that there are simmilarities with Ukrainians (ethnic Ukrainians). I don´t mean that Bulgarians from Bulgaria have simmilarities with Bulgarians from Ukraine; it is obvious, thet are all Bulgarians, it does not matter where they are. What I mean is that Ukrainian costumes (even from some regions from Ukraine where there are not Bulgarians) are simmilar with Bulgarian ones.
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Notice that all these dances I collected with the same rhythmic dance and ancient christian motifs are all people of the combinations of red, white, green. That is exactly because of what Herodotus wrote in 5-10. shsu. edu/~his_ncp/Scythians. html See the green is the woman(/snake), the mother goddess'(/earth) Marija Gimbutas studied that goes back 30 000 years in Europe. The red is the man who is the sun, lion, griffin. The mother is also the white stag in the tale of Hunor & Magor, Gog & Magog
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Byzantian-Csaba leaves after the death of his father Atilla after the battle with his Aladár/Elder-Germanic brother. He takes with him 60 of his brothers (+their followers) and 15 000 huns to Thessaloniki and is away from Pannonia at his grandfather Honorius for 13 years. Atilla's 454 death is a julian 44 year slip to 410, which is exactly 13 years before death of Honorius in 423. Kuber leaves the "avars" because of an attack in 680 and arrives about 10 years later in Thessaloniki.
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Stan! Csaba is Atilla's son, does this make Atilla Hungarian in your eyes finally? I'm glad! The state you speak about is "Onogur-Bulgar" We are "Hongrie" even today in french. Which ended, I told you, exactly an Arian calendar slip from Atilla's entrance in the same place doing the same things. Atilla's Bulgarians&Hungarians have been HERE since 373! And actually since the Christian Martyrs in 304/305(Julian Calendar+Roman state cal) which is the REASON Atilla came. They were our Etruscan kin.
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I told you, not dances Its in parts of the music. Here, such as at 1:34 the pipe music.
You'd have to point it out to me where the Habsburgs influenced us, as a subject of our music and dances I can only see that It has changed in bits, although the basics have stayed. I say yours is the same. I can clearly hear where there is Ottoman influence (i demonstrated before, with the pipe music) , but i can see that the dance itself is ancient, and I can relate to that, since they are on the same basis of our dances.
This is NOT Ottoman music..Our instruments are original Balkan instruments. The turks were a nomadic tribe from central asia. they do not have instruments. You have much more central Asian influence, and german for that matter.
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Csaba is commonly known as Kuber(&Kovrat), who does the same exact thing, on the same rout goes to Thessaloniki. (Öcs-aba means younger son of father). (mother byzanthian princess, daughter of Honorius) Aladar in the battle with Csaba is supported by westerners, since Aladár's mother is westerner/germanic. This battle happens after Atilla dies. The end of the Onogur-Bulgarian kaganite in 670 is exactly an Arian 297 calendar's slip worth after Atilla's death.
@HildaBone Thanks for your comment. They have a lot of simmilarities, not only in costumes, but also in songs and dances
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We didn't come from anywhere.I linked you Michelangelo Naddeo /watch?v=5dvG7VsdqLo He goes back to the end of the last Iceage, but our continuity goes back to 14-8 million yrs to teeth found in Dévényújfalu, Austriapithecus,Rudapithecus, Samu, 430-230 000 first tools found in Buda, Vértesszőlős, and the list's continous to today. Our Chronicles in right in saying Atilla is Magyar King. Flavius 2 says he is Magyar/Scythian King, also says Góg are Galls, Magóg are Magyars. Bulgar/trac&Magyar 1ppl.
I did not ask you to develop a hungarian game of words. I ask you to show me something similar to our dances.
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Reading from top to bottom a Jurt reads FeSZeKe, meaning "nest". Fe in the Jurt is usually put together from many sticks forming diamonds in their crossing. So it really is a combination. Also about JS KRST. Jesu Kristu. KRST is KeReSZT (SZ is eng S, S is eng SH in hun.), or KöRöSZT Kör + Oszt is "Cir!cle it Divides" what a cross in a circle does. JS, GYZ (GY is eng soft J) eGY + eZ is "it Agrees". JS KRST is Dividing and Agreeing constantly. This is constantly occurant in scythian pieces
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Michelangelo Naddeo-collected mother goddess symbols, Mario Alinei-linguist, Marija Gimbutas - collected mother goddess symbols, and there is also a French historian proving Atilla to be hungarian, but lets not list him, because I haven't studied his work, and I can't even remember the name now, and of course if we were on the basis of who else sees us in the matter we do the list could go on forever. Obrusánszky Borbála hungarian historian studies Chinese Chronicles, the Chinese say we're hun.
Hungarians have fino-uralic culture and influence, huns turkish influence. Do hungarians have something in common with Turkish culture? Even more, in Korean chronicles can be found a fighting between the Widow Queen of Shilla and the General of Atilla. Huns loose the battle. Year cca 600 A.D. Some few writings of Mongolia say abour a nomad population named Ouguri that start to leave the urals in cca 700AD. Nowaday it's just assumption that Ouguri were the "hungari"..but fir sure are not huns. All rhe big European powers were disagree in the Council of Whienne
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True, and I found this video doing comparitive search on dances of europe and from 4:40 to 7:05 (with a gap in the middle) the music and dance shows continuity with Ireland and Hungary. You got some ottoman influence, which was mostly unavoidable, but I hear and see our mutual türkic scythian-celtic past. No wonder, we both are Atilla's people. I will be translating a great presentation, how dif. calendars made it possible for things to get put on our timeline double time to separate our people.
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I didn't finish with Charlemagne/Childeric/Chlodwig/Aladar. 1 more calendar: 753BC Rome is founded "Ab urbe conditia"(AUC) calendar starts. 776BC Greek 1st olympic games start. This is 23 yrs difference. Kézai Simon coming of Árpád:872, official 895 is 23 yrs Charlemagne coronation, attack of avars 23 yrs. Coronation of Childeric, Chlodwig 23 yrs. 311 Seleukid calendar after that Charlemagne. Childeric=Chlodwig=Charlemagne=Aladár=Atilla's Son. Which is why Charlemagne is depicted with our crown.
I told you :0 Develop your hungarian theories somewhere on other videos. This video is for Bulgarian Dances. Not for Hungarians theories :) Write in private if want to learn something for the real history :)
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The Huns "disappear" with the end of Atilla the same way as the Avars wtih Charlemagne. Kézai: the avars escape east of the Tisza afraid of the westerners (Charlemagne's captain named "Theodoricus/Ditricus") name themselves instead of "Hun", "Székely". Childerik name: Child of King. Their burials are same as the Gepids', which is why Gepids're called "germanic" without any other basis. Younger son of Atilla, öCsaba went to his mother's people/Bizanthines after loosing war with Aladár/Elder son.
Watching "slovak" dances I noticed that though they learnt the majority of their dance from us Hungarians, the tell-tale that it isn't their's is that they don't spin correctly. Man and woman are trying to spin together, but it doesn't work. See our men have their one foot as the centre-axis of the whole spinning, since they are the sun. Around him walks the woman, since she is the earth. Same as a seed in the fruit, or Seed in the Egg, or DNA and mtDNA. Our drums are similar, Celts,Tuvans too.
The oak in your flag is also celtic-scythian continuity. The world-wide known celtic-tree-of-life is the oak, which in both celtic and scythian tradition is the pillar connecting Heaven with Earth (man/woman again). In hungarian "oak" is "tölgy" also meaning in slang "tőgy", udder. So again it is the Milking Way. Menyasszony is "Menny" heaven "asszony" (wife)woman, Menyasszony is (just-about-to-be)wife, and Úr is the husband, meaning Lord. So again, its the centre point located in the UNIverse.
So the Habsburg Monarchy have changed your. I know very well when you came. Once again, show me where did you see Ottoman dances or singing in our music?
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That are NOT Hungarian I've stated Byzantine Chronicles, VII. Constantine, Josephus Flavius, Antonio Bonfini-career in Hungary, originally Italian, Michael Rhetor Manuel (to whom Constantine wrote), Barry Cunliffe-historian, Heribert Illig-historian who wrote his theory about the non-existent dark age without ever consulting any Hungarian historical records based it purely on german propaganda, his companion Uwe Topper who first suggested the reason might be because of different calendars.
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Yes, his life is extended to fit the timeline. Obviously there will have to be names put into a timeline extended by 2-300 years, which are the names for the same people. Just like Charlemagne's name only means Great King, Childerik means Child King, whose father is Alarik is Kirala (meaning King in hungarian) backwards, when rune writing is right to left translated to latin left to right. You can read Hunnic records in archaic hungarian. I'll answer more exact as well,but have things to do now.
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We've been Germanized as much as you have been Ottomanized. What we could be working on rather than beating on a dead horse is extracting the music that is from the peaceful time of Atilla and before that. Here, I found where they're discussing the scottish and hungarian bagpipe: /watch?v=O3bxB8Ed2JA (top comments) Other than that this is a Csángó Hungarian tune played slowly. Here: /watch?v=eqaX5IYFyOg See we have the same drum as you, but bigger (on the ground). Ours is closer to the Tuvan.
We know we are Gepids, you are Dacians because Manuel caesar was fighting against the Magyars and Serbs because Moravcsik Gyula collected our MAGYAR history from bizantine sources, in which it is said the Gepids are Magyars and the Dácians are serbs/slavs/bulgars. Here're some more word "games" especially concerining you: The Huns always named their people REDsouth, BLUEeast, BLACKnorth (Kara(-chay, -man), WHTEeast (Alba-Scotts, Silingi-goths, Sali, and Sari) ...
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As for the Ottoman influence I meant the music (in many parts, but not all). The Celtic and Hungarian continuity is both musical and dance-wise (see collection and links I linked). Ottoman is far apart from ours, because Islam has changed the language of their music from when it was original Ancient Christian Türkic before Judeo-Christians and Islam.
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I apologise for that, I didn't check my sources as i wasn't making a fuss about that particular name. Tóth Gyula, the source says its Onogur-Bulgarian Empire as well, not Kaganite. I was thinking of the Avar Kaganite, of which of course Kuber, corespondant to being Csaba(half-byzantine son of Atilla) was indeed the governor of the "Avars" who were attacked by Aladár, the older son/"Charlemagne" 104 years before Árpád came like our Chronicles really do write.
It is very well said that In Hungarian mythology, Csaba is the youngest son of Attila, King of the Huns :) But you have to learn that mythology and history is not the same thing :)
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And the scottish are also türk in the way of being Celts who came back through Anatolia, in which way the pipe-playing people are TürkIC. The ottoman NOTES I pointed out are post-islam TürkISH. By the way, here is a friend of mine comparing the pipes: /watch?v=5Hv5w9KYHnI (although Hungarian pipes are usually furless aswell)
Other thing is that Turkey is a much bigger then (for example) Bulgaria, and they have a many different styles of music. When someone say; "There is a Turkish influence in Bulgarian music!" You should search, and hear, how many different music styles you can find in Turkey, and then you can say, yes or no. Last 50years, America have influence on every part of this world, before, there is a Ottoman empire - which was important for this part of world, and they make influence on Balkan music.
Some details from Turkey you can find in some Balkan countries, but again, there is enough (I would say, about 70%)authentic segments, so if you are familiar with etno music from Bulgaria, or for example, Macedonia, you can easily separate Turkish influence, if there is any...All this rhythm's come from Asia; Indija - Arabia. First this "authentic rhythm"was come in Turkey, then in other contries. Turkey is important because, in this case, Turkey is a some kind of link between east and west.
No dear :) The magyar theory that xiongnu are huns is not proven :) And one more time I will tell you that Bulgaria had a war with the Magyars and we know very well when you came :) You captured Sedmigradsko and settled there in 10 century during the Bulgarian - hungarian war in 895 AD
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Homo Sapiens Sapiens derives from Homo Sapiens and about that: "genetic studies now suggest that the functional DNA of modern humans and Neanderthals diverged 500,000 years ago." wiki/Homo_sapiens, I know I shouldn't use the Wikipedia, but this is just too common knowledge. We all come from the same species, Stan darling. Don't worry, despite having called many things, we aren't flying-monkey-superhumans from Mars.
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As for the rest I did check, and stand by what I wrote. There is an extremely simple way of settling this. Carbon dating "early" and "later" Avar findings. There has been no such happening to prove that the findings would be from different times. In common history Kuber is said to have a disagreement with the Avar khan in 680 and REPELLING AN ATTACK goes with 70 000 of his followers, like Csaba from alongside the Morava and Vardar through Macedonia to settle in the Byzantine Empire round 690.
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Tell me otherwise, because all you are doing is saying how it isn't, which never won any argument. I have told you already how they are. There has been a basis population since the Gravetti Culture in Western Europe coming from the Basin, but the Celts are considered a türkic people as are the Etruscans and the Scythians who are kin people. Türkic Etruscans: /watch?v=SKFCs5m19pQ Türkic Scythians: /watch?v=l82fmlzLdjc
... Sorry ... but what you are writing is ... nonsense ... turks formed themself as an ethnos in the time period VII - V BC and 5-7 AC ... Etruscan and Celts were already highly civilised societies at least millennium before that time ...
POWERGeorgian Dafuq? That's Bulgarian traditional music and dances.
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To make exact: eGYeZő, KeReSZTeZő ez: somebody is doing this thing, like -ing ő: like our he/she (we don't genderize) "ő", this is marking that s/he is the doer So eGYeZő Jesu is Agreeer, KeReSZTeZő is divider
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I'm flattered you think that all the backed up facts I've written makes us superhuman, other foreigners have said that as well "saying circulated among us that two intelligent species live on Earth: Humans and Hungarians - as Isaac Asimov recalled" But don't worry, that really is bullshit. The only thing that could explain this is our continuous existence in one place for very long years.
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As if it were the other way with you. I did point it out, 1:34. NOTES not instrument. Our dancing in no way germanic. I think you'd agree the Germans "dance" like a clown trying to pass a drunk-driving test with a hemroid and back pain. I see where our music would've been influenced when these city-dwelling aristocracy started infesting our beloved country, but our people's dance was always separate from the Waltz. It is clearly visible though, that the Germanics tried to take dancing from us.
Exactly :) The same like your germanized type of dancing :) it can not be compared with the Bulgarian costums and traditons :) I couldn't see any similarity :) Of cource your type of dancing is fully germanized during the rule of the Habsburg monarchy :) Ancient traditions are the Bulgarian fire dance :) This is ancient Bulgarian barefoot dance on embers : watch/OXylP8MyRG0 It is not like saying that attila have played on viola :) hahahahahahah
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-ab, like the Egyptian segregate group baking not flat breads, but sourdough-breads, named MagyarAB means in türkic languages (in hun. "-ág") branch/tribe. Sali-ab, Sari-ab only simply means white tribe. So came the Sarab, Serb and Saliab, Slav. Sclavi is also valid because the Romans thought of them that way. Which's why Atilla came back, to free the White Huns, who were being threatened by the Rom. Emp. Once he did all our people joined forces and made a Christian "empire" reaching to Maghreb.
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I made a collection for this exact point today: /playlist?list=PLUMIIhEWHuEP8O-GDx_sMIkXIaSthbiUn (Bulgarian is the 5th) Of course. Rune writing appeared 7000 years ago from the Basin and south that we can read in Hungarian. Same runes are found in the Bosnian pyramids (in hungarian: peremes ("with rims(that go high)")), which they don't know, but could come from the time they were raised. I thought you knew history. Atilla knew where he was coming BACK to.
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Great example of german dancing: /watch?v=ddy4LJCC7bk I couldn't watch it through! But as you can see you could make similarity just as much with bulgarian dancing. It would be dishonoring to you as well to say these dancing elements came from germanics. The point I'm trying to make 2 u is there're people who have preserved seeable elements of the ancient culture, like the list I've made, and who have lost it tried to retrieve it but since the meaning is lost, its just some arrogant showing-off.
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That's where iSTeN comes in the Jurt through the top, since everything comes from top to bottom. As you will see in Naddeo's presentation Asia and Europe constantly worked together. In the Jurt next is the letter SZe, the single line. It is the man, who is reaching for the light singularly. Then come the Ke rune, the mother goddess diamond shape. They are the women holding the weight together at the bottom. You will see these man-woman relationships in the dances I collected as well.
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Ignorance our enemy. I got to know about Sali and Sari partially from Serbs. Search "The still nameless equestrian and livestock-raising peoples roamed in this "endlessness". They were called in later historical writings: Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans, Huns, Magyars, Bulgarians and Mongols." & "Josephus Flavius" in magyarmegmaradasert. hu/in-english/multi-topic/1672-celts-and-magyars Sarmatians are the Pol(/BAL)aks, whom we call LeNGYeL. In most slavic langs. we are called "VeNGeR".
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Legs crossing and agreeing/parallel abeka. jtkf. hu/archive/kult/program/2008-12/szkita_20081202/verszerzodes. jpg abeka. jtkf.hu/archive/kult/program/2008-12/szkita_20081202/verbaratok. jpg 1-300 ago: nagyhazi. hu/kepek/165/377457. jpg Fej means "head" and "to milk" as well. That is why the spirit world is depicted with a deer with huge antlers, but the deer is a mother, since it is "milked", which is how you are linked to "The Milk Way"/Tejút. Tej is milk. Telj is "whole".
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Vowels don't matter: /watch?v=YTlDGrFbaXI Celts: magyarmegmaradasert. hu/in-english/multi-topic/1672-celts-and-magyars One more cross on the cross is eGY(double-cross), counting that there is one of iSTeN. There is one of UNI. Skip first ten minutes, its a boring interview: /watch?v=5dvG7VsdqLo Here you will see that the cross is very ancient. Cross in a circle is rune Fe, for Fény, meaning "light" we call children "light of our eyes". It is what is at the top of a Yurt/Jurt(Gyúrt "kneeded")
Ukrainians are ukrainians, old nation, bulgarians come from asia, but they did mixed with tracians
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Bal is "left" Sumer(who called themselves KieNGiR - K is hard H)inner God "Bal", Jo(bb)("Yo") is right, KNGR creator/outer God Ai ("Ay"). Looking at the map from Sumeria Bal (Left) is the West. so there is the sea Baltic, Balaton (left in the Carpathian (Celtic: CARpat means szeKÉR, CARt) Basin), Bal-ka(h)ns. Also Genesis 10:25 Eber had two sons. The name of the first was Peleg, because the world became divided in his days. His brother's name was Yoktan. Again, it is Pel-eg BAL(-ÁG), and JO(bb).
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I had some time to look into this Chronography. It writes you are decendants of Ziezi, son of Shem. So if you accept this, you consider yourself a Jew. Or are you separating Hebrews from Jews like westerners are doing today to defend the Zionic state? I'll read more later, I need to go berry picking, but my first impression of this makes me very sceptic. Maybe this is too quick an answer, I'll come back. We've written the lineage from Nimrod to Árpád, Nimrod's from Japhet. Other lit. write Kam.
You'd have to point it out to me where the Ottomans influenced us :) ? I can clearly see the Germanic type of dancing in your culture :) Clwearly influenced by the Habsburg empire :) You were subgects in the Habsburg empire, not the other way :)
Bosnia have a Sevdah. Serbia have a Trumpets. Bulgaria have a rhythm and dances. Macedonia have a all that, and some more! I am not either one, but that just my opinion. Macedonia is a absolute winner if we talk about Balkan music, no offens and with all respect for other ethno music, I love all music which I mention, equally.
well no one has friends when it comes to tastes and preferences...but I get this opinion only from ex-Yugo people as they know no better...sorry but FYROM music is Ok but nothing special, typical chalgia....turbo folk style. just with Pirin alone there is more music and rhythm diversity...such as polyphony and all that...
This is beautiful, love from Bosnia 🇧🇦❤️🇧🇬
Love it! I love Bulgaria and Bulgarian culture, people everything. Greetings from India
Greetings from Bulgaria! I admire Indian culture, philosophy, traditional outfits and wisdom. Also... curry 🙂
Same im actually in filipino
My grandfather was Bulgarian greeting from Argentina Nice!!
Дядо ти е българин? А ти знаеш ли нещо на български език?
Only somewords :(
my mom is bulgarian-turk im glad to be getting in touch with my heritage
ich liebe die folklore .... super Klasse :)) weiter so!
Danke für deine Liebe!
Εκπληκτικός χορός φίλοι Βούλγαροι μου θυμισατε υπέροχες στιγμές.....από έναν Έλληνα.....
This is awesome! The bulgarian music gives me a lot of inspiration, i really love it! :) Greetings from Hungary.
Long live Hungary! 💖
Hungarian music is also inspiring. I've been to a folk concert in Budapest. It was great!
Браво,българи от Украйна!!!
Absolutely marvelous! :)
This is just fantastic, all of it, I LOVE it!!!
Браво на организаторите! Очаквам още такива спектакли и с другите големи ансамбли като Добруджа, Капанския, Странджа, Родопа... :)
PRAVO BOGATSTVO MUZIKE,KORAKA, NOSNJE I LEPOTE IGRE !
The best -like always
България в музика, танци и цветове!
велики! ДА ЖИВЕЕ БЪЛГАРИЯ!
@TranceElevation I see something like continuity between Greece, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Moldova and Ukraine in costumes, music, dances and styles in songs.
Bravo!!
Good job Stan :-)
Красота
Велики!
Bravooi
Класика!
For someone, who doesn't know anything about other Lands and People except maybe his own , everything seems so clear or simply turkish.
The name Balaton comes from Blatnograd, magyar boy :) The history do not start with the magyar invasion in 9 th century :) Principality of Lower Pannonia was under franish rule :) On the other side of danube was Bulgaria, magyar boy :)
Why is this comment of yours spam? I searched for it hard and long!
Oaks are perfectly at home on Thracian tombs. Bonfini says the Greeks thought of them as Dacians(+Goths) since they used the same language. The Phrygians are of them as well. They allied and KIN with the Gepids (Us).
VII. Constantinus wrote to Michael Rhetor Manuel caesar an ode on how he managed to allienate these two people, who once drank from two sides of the same river, and are the same in spirit (as seen in the dances).
Tordos-Vinca Culture, Szakálhát Culture, Battleaxe&Linear Pottery Culture in Transylvania and Etelköz at the same time, Baden-Pecel Culture
You can't have any pple without a centrepoint, and the centrepoint from the Balkans to Western Europe is the Carpathian Basin that throughout the Würm Iceage and both Dryas iceages in Eurasia is the most North-West uncovered dryland. Also it was isolated land.This is from where the Gravetti, then the Thracians sprang as well. But we've always remained here.
What Celtic continuity do you have when you came in Semigradsko in 9 th century?
If you ask some English or American musician, after you give him to listen 10 Macedonian and 10 Bulgarian songs, unfortunately, most of them can't hear the difference. Same thing is if you ask some Bulgarian musician to tell the difference between Native American tribe music - every tribe have a different music. Same is if you ask some folk/ethno musician from Balkan to tell the difference between Engl.and American Rock. In most cases, they don't hear major differences...
Good chat was going on in here ......
It is different because there is no Slavic ethnicity
there are ethnic groups who speak closely related languages
Poles Russians Ukrainians are different from the Bulgarians and other Balkan nations
булгариан folklore is richest in the world
Bulgarian are Tatars from east and they mixed with Slavic and take everything from Slavic people,language and danses!!!
From Serbs!!!
But,I love them !!!
Bravo.❤❤❤❤❤
"Bulgars. The Bulgars (also Bolgars or proto-Bulgarians) were a semi-nomadic people of Turkic descent, originally from Central Asia, who from the 2nd century onwards dwelled in the steppes north of the Caucasus and around the banks of river Volga (then Itil)."
"Are Serbs the oldest Slavs?
The Serbs who are the oldest Slavs had inhabited the Podunavlje region - the Danube River area - the ancient Ister from the time immemorial as found in records which describe the numerous Illyric - Thracian tribes. This is today widely known and clear to every serious researcher and intellectual."
@@oliveradimitrijevic1843 Nope, historians have disputed the myth that Bulgarians are of Turkic descent, neither are they slavic. They are simply bulgars, it's because of such common misconceptions that their ethnicity is falsely perceived
Can anyone give me more info about the dance at 5:22?
What region is it and what is that streamer thing the women are holding?
Any info is appreciated!
I've played the Bulgarian drum, because we didn't have Csángó Hungarian, it was just as well to play.
The link you linked to me, by the way, I wanted to say is that according to tradition, we don't have women play any long shaped mouth instrument, those are mens' instruments. Just like the Native Americans (also considered türkic, Altai, go research) women are supposed to keep the rhythm, the base keeping is our role (modernization mixed this).
/watch?v=Eds-h770iq4 This one's a clearer version.
Milos mm8 hungarian?
I know I'm 8 years late but that's true for Bulgaria too. Women got into gaida and kaval only relatively recently.
2:42, How is this piece called?
@TranceElevation Yes, in Besarabia, but I mean that there are simmilarities with Ukrainians (ethnic Ukrainians). I don´t mean that Bulgarians from Bulgaria have simmilarities with Bulgarians from Ukraine; it is obvious, thet are all Bulgarians, it does not matter where they are. What I mean is that Ukrainian costumes (even from some regions from Ukraine where there are not Bulgarians) are simmilar with Bulgarian ones.
Notice that all these dances I collected with the same rhythmic dance and ancient christian motifs are all people of the combinations of red, white, green. That is exactly because of what Herodotus wrote in 5-10. shsu. edu/~his_ncp/Scythians. html
See the green is the woman(/snake), the mother goddess'(/earth) Marija Gimbutas studied that goes back 30 000 years in Europe. The red is the man who is the sun, lion, griffin. The mother is also the white stag in the tale of Hunor & Magor, Gog & Magog
Byzantian-Csaba leaves after the death of his father Atilla after the battle with his Aladár/Elder-Germanic brother. He takes with him 60 of his brothers (+their followers) and 15 000 huns to Thessaloniki and is away from Pannonia at his grandfather Honorius for 13 years.
Atilla's 454 death is a julian 44 year slip to 410, which is exactly 13 years before death of Honorius in 423.
Kuber leaves the "avars" because of an attack in 680 and arrives about 10 years later in Thessaloniki.
Stan! Csaba is Atilla's son, does this make Atilla Hungarian in your eyes finally? I'm glad!
The state you speak about is "Onogur-Bulgar" We are "Hongrie" even today in french. Which ended, I told you, exactly an Arian calendar slip from Atilla's entrance in the same place doing the same things.
Atilla's Bulgarians&Hungarians have been HERE since 373! And actually since the Christian Martyrs in 304/305(Julian Calendar+Roman state cal) which is the REASON Atilla came. They were our Etruscan kin.
I told you, not dances Its in parts of the music. Here, such as at 1:34 the pipe music.
If you knew anything at all about European folk music, you wouldn't say that. :)
please tell me what is the song at 8:00?
You'd have to point it out to me where the Habsburgs influenced us, as a subject of our music and dances I can only see that It has changed in bits, although the basics have stayed. I say yours is the same. I can clearly hear where there is Ottoman influence (i demonstrated before, with the pipe music) , but i can see that the dance itself is ancient, and I can relate to that, since they are on the same basis of our dances.
This is NOT Ottoman music..Our instruments are original Balkan instruments. The turks were a nomadic tribe from central asia. they do not have instruments. You have much more central Asian influence, and german for that matter.
Csaba is commonly known as Kuber(&Kovrat), who does the same exact thing, on the same rout goes to Thessaloniki. (Öcs-aba means younger son of father). (mother byzanthian princess, daughter of Honorius)
Aladar in the battle with Csaba is supported by westerners, since Aladár's mother is westerner/germanic. This battle happens after Atilla dies.
The end of the Onogur-Bulgarian kaganite in 670 is exactly an Arian 297 calendar's slip worth after Atilla's death.
@HildaBone Thanks for your comment. They have a lot of simmilarities, not only in costumes, but also in songs and dances
We didn't come from anywhere.I linked you Michelangelo Naddeo /watch?v=5dvG7VsdqLo He goes back to the end of the last Iceage, but our continuity goes back to 14-8 million yrs to teeth found in Dévényújfalu, Austriapithecus,Rudapithecus, Samu, 430-230 000 first tools found in Buda, Vértesszőlős, and the list's continous to today. Our Chronicles in right in saying Atilla is Magyar King. Flavius 2 says he is Magyar/Scythian King, also says Góg are Galls, Magóg are Magyars. Bulgar/trac&Magyar 1ppl.
I did not ask you to develop a hungarian game of words. I ask you to show me something similar to our dances.
Reading from top to bottom a Jurt reads FeSZeKe, meaning "nest". Fe in the Jurt is usually put together from many sticks forming diamonds in their crossing. So it really is a combination. Also about JS KRST. Jesu Kristu. KRST is KeReSZT (SZ is eng S, S is eng SH in hun.), or KöRöSZT
Kör + Oszt is "Cir!cle it Divides" what a cross in a circle does.
JS, GYZ (GY is eng soft J)
eGY + eZ is "it Agrees". JS KRST is Dividing and Agreeing constantly. This is constantly occurant in scythian pieces
Michelangelo Naddeo-collected mother goddess symbols, Mario Alinei-linguist, Marija Gimbutas - collected mother goddess symbols, and there is also a French historian proving Atilla to be hungarian, but lets not list him, because I haven't studied his work, and I can't even remember the name now, and of course if we were on the basis of who else sees us in the matter we do the list could go on forever. Obrusánszky Borbála hungarian historian studies Chinese Chronicles, the Chinese say we're hun.
Hungarians have fino-uralic culture and influence, huns turkish influence. Do hungarians have something in common with Turkish culture?
Even more, in Korean chronicles can be found a fighting between the Widow Queen of Shilla and the General of Atilla. Huns loose the battle. Year cca 600 A.D.
Some few writings of Mongolia say abour a nomad population named Ouguri that start to leave the urals in cca 700AD. Nowaday it's just assumption that Ouguri were the "hungari"..but fir sure are not huns. All rhe big European powers were disagree in the Council of Whienne
True, and I found this video doing comparitive search on dances of europe and from 4:40 to 7:05 (with a gap in the middle) the music and dance shows continuity with Ireland and Hungary. You got some ottoman influence, which was mostly unavoidable, but I hear and see our mutual türkic scythian-celtic past. No wonder, we both are Atilla's people. I will be translating a great presentation, how dif. calendars made it possible for things to get put on our timeline double time to separate our people.
I didn't finish with Charlemagne/Childeric/Chlodwig/Aladar.
1 more calendar:
753BC Rome is founded "Ab urbe conditia"(AUC) calendar starts.
776BC Greek 1st olympic games start. This is 23 yrs difference.
Kézai Simon coming of Árpád:872, official 895 is 23 yrs
Charlemagne coronation, attack of avars 23 yrs.
Coronation of Childeric, Chlodwig 23 yrs. 311 Seleukid calendar after that Charlemagne.
Childeric=Chlodwig=Charlemagne=Aladár=Atilla's Son. Which is why Charlemagne is depicted with our crown.
I told you :0 Develop your hungarian theories somewhere on other videos. This video is for Bulgarian Dances. Not for Hungarians theories :) Write in private if want to learn something for the real history :)
The Huns "disappear" with the end of Atilla the same way as the Avars wtih Charlemagne.
Kézai: the avars escape east of the Tisza afraid of the westerners (Charlemagne's captain named "Theodoricus/Ditricus") name themselves instead of "Hun", "Székely".
Childerik name: Child of King. Their burials are same as the Gepids', which is why Gepids're called "germanic" without any other basis.
Younger son of Atilla, öCsaba went to his mother's people/Bizanthines after loosing war with Aladár/Elder son.
iskam da popitam na 3:40 koi e tozi tanc ?
Watching "slovak" dances I noticed that though they learnt the majority of their dance from us Hungarians, the tell-tale that it isn't their's is that they don't spin correctly. Man and woman are trying to spin together, but it doesn't work.
See our men have their one foot as the centre-axis of the whole spinning, since they are the sun. Around him walks the woman, since she is the earth. Same as a seed in the fruit, or Seed in the Egg, or DNA and mtDNA.
Our drums are similar, Celts,Tuvans too.
първото хоро как се казва ?
The oak in your flag is also celtic-scythian continuity.
The world-wide known celtic-tree-of-life is the oak, which in both celtic and scythian tradition is the pillar connecting Heaven with Earth (man/woman again). In hungarian "oak" is "tölgy" also meaning in slang "tőgy", udder. So again it is the Milking Way.
Menyasszony is "Menny" heaven "asszony" (wife)woman, Menyasszony is (just-about-to-be)wife, and Úr is the husband, meaning Lord. So again, its the centre point located in the UNIverse.
I told you hundred of arguments :) One of these is that Kubrat and Kuber have nothing to do with any Hungarian :)
So the Habsburg Monarchy have changed your. I know very well when you came.
Once again, show me where did you see Ottoman dances or singing in our music?
That are NOT Hungarian I've stated
Byzantine Chronicles, VII. Constantine, Josephus Flavius, Antonio Bonfini-career in Hungary, originally Italian, Michael Rhetor Manuel (to whom Constantine wrote), Barry Cunliffe-historian, Heribert Illig-historian who wrote his theory about the non-existent dark age without ever consulting any Hungarian historical records based it purely on german propaganda, his companion Uwe Topper who first suggested the reason might be because of different calendars.
Yes, his life is extended to fit the timeline. Obviously there will have to be names put into a timeline extended by 2-300 years, which are the names for the same people. Just like Charlemagne's name only means Great King, Childerik means Child King, whose father is Alarik is Kirala (meaning King in hungarian) backwards, when rune writing is right to left translated to latin left to right. You can read Hunnic records in archaic hungarian. I'll answer more exact as well,but have things to do now.
We've been Germanized as much as you have been Ottomanized. What we could be working on rather than beating on a dead horse is extracting the music that is from the peaceful time of Atilla and before that.
Here, I found where they're discussing the scottish and hungarian bagpipe: /watch?v=O3bxB8Ed2JA (top comments) Other than that this is a Csángó Hungarian tune played slowly.
Here: /watch?v=eqaX5IYFyOg See we have the same drum as you, but bigger (on the ground). Ours is closer to the Tuvan.
Банатски - Северняшки ансамбъл гр. Плевен
does 2:45 have a name?
OUT!
What is the last song :(
Bre Petrunko
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Explain Blatnograd's ethymology to me.
As for the rest of this comment I have already answered.
3:00
3:06
We know we are Gepids, you are Dacians because Manuel caesar was fighting against the Magyars and Serbs because Moravcsik Gyula collected our MAGYAR history from bizantine sources, in which it is said the Gepids are Magyars and the Dácians are serbs/slavs/bulgars.
Here're some more word "games" especially concerining you:
The Huns always named their people REDsouth, BLUEeast, BLACKnorth (Kara(-chay, -man), WHTEeast (Alba-Scotts, Silingi-goths, Sali, and Sari)
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As for the Ottoman influence I meant the music (in many parts, but not all).
The Celtic and Hungarian continuity is both musical and dance-wise (see collection and links I linked).
Ottoman is far apart from ours, because Islam has changed the language of their music from when it was original Ancient Christian Türkic before Judeo-Christians and Islam.
I apologise for that, I didn't check my sources as i wasn't making a fuss about that particular name. Tóth Gyula, the source says its Onogur-Bulgarian Empire as well, not Kaganite.
I was thinking of the Avar Kaganite, of which of course Kuber, corespondant to being Csaba(half-byzantine son of Atilla) was indeed the governor of the "Avars" who were attacked by Aladár, the older son/"Charlemagne" 104 years before Árpád came like our Chronicles really do write.
At the minute 4:19 the costums reminds some clothes from Ukraine, especially from southwestern Ukraine
It is very well said that In Hungarian mythology, Csaba is the youngest son of Attila, King of the Huns :) But you have to learn that mythology and history is not the same thing :)
And the scottish are also türk in the way of being Celts who came back through Anatolia, in which way the pipe-playing people are TürkIC. The ottoman NOTES I pointed out are post-islam TürkISH.
By the way, here is a friend of mine comparing the pipes: /watch?v=5Hv5w9KYHnI (although Hungarian pipes are usually furless aswell)
Other thing is that Turkey is a much bigger then (for example) Bulgaria, and they have a many different styles of music. When someone say; "There is a Turkish influence in Bulgarian music!" You should search, and hear, how many different music styles you can find in Turkey, and then you can say, yes or no. Last 50years, America have influence on every part of this world, before, there is a Ottoman empire - which was important for this part of world, and they make influence on Balkan music.
... 80% of the population of Turkey are old Thracians ... and similarities (if any) come from there ...
Some details from Turkey you can find in some Balkan countries, but again, there is enough (I would say, about 70%)authentic segments, so if you are familiar with etno music from Bulgaria, or for example, Macedonia, you can easily separate Turkish influence, if there is any...All this rhythm's come from Asia; Indija - Arabia. First this "authentic rhythm"was come in Turkey, then in other contries. Turkey is important because, in this case, Turkey is a some kind of link between east and west.
Bulgarians are Thracians.No come from nowhere.
kakvi ti turski melodii v parviq moment be ti znaesh li tapana na koq darjava e naroden instrument, izlagash se !!
No dear :) The magyar theory that xiongnu are huns is not proven :) And one more time I will tell you that Bulgaria had a war with the Magyars and we know very well when you came :) You captured Sedmigradsko and settled there in 10 century during the Bulgarian - hungarian war in 895 AD
Homo Sapiens Sapiens derives from Homo Sapiens and about that: "genetic studies now suggest that the functional DNA of modern humans and Neanderthals diverged 500,000 years ago." wiki/Homo_sapiens, I know I shouldn't use the Wikipedia, but this is just too common knowledge. We all come from the same species, Stan darling.
Don't worry, despite having called many things, we aren't flying-monkey-superhumans from Mars.
As for the rest I did check, and stand by what I wrote.
There is an extremely simple way of settling this. Carbon dating "early" and "later" Avar findings. There has been no such happening to prove that the findings would be from different times.
In common history Kuber is said to have a disagreement with the Avar khan in 680 and REPELLING AN ATTACK goes with 70 000 of his followers, like Csaba from alongside the Morava and Vardar through Macedonia to settle in the Byzantine Empire round 690.
Tell me otherwise, because all you are doing is saying how it isn't, which never won any argument.
I have told you already how they are. There has been a basis population since the Gravetti Culture in Western Europe coming from the Basin, but the Celts are considered a türkic people as are the Etruscans and the Scythians who are kin people.
Türkic Etruscans: /watch?v=SKFCs5m19pQ
Türkic Scythians: /watch?v=l82fmlzLdjc
... Sorry ... but what you are writing is ... nonsense ... turks formed themself as an ethnos in the time period VII - V BC and 5-7 AC ... Etruscan and Celts were already highly civilised societies at least millennium before that time ...
It is like a Turkish folk music. Is this music Turkish?
POWERGeorgian Dafuq? That's Bulgarian traditional music and dances.
To make exact: eGYeZő, KeReSZTeZő
ez: somebody is doing this thing, like -ing
ő: like our he/she (we don't genderize) "ő", this is marking that s/he is the doer
So eGYeZő Jesu is Agreeer, KeReSZTeZő is divider
I'm flattered you think that all the backed up facts I've written makes us superhuman, other foreigners have said that as well "saying circulated among us that two intelligent species live on Earth: Humans and Hungarians - as Isaac Asimov recalled" But don't worry, that really is bullshit. The only thing that could explain this is our continuous existence in one place for very long years.
As if it were the other way with you.
I did point it out, 1:34. NOTES not instrument.
Our dancing in no way germanic. I think you'd agree the Germans "dance" like a clown trying to pass a drunk-driving test with a hemroid and back pain. I see where our music would've been influenced when these city-dwelling aristocracy started infesting our beloved country, but our people's dance was always separate from the Waltz. It is clearly visible though, that the Germanics tried to take dancing from us.
Thrak danc
Dude you are blind :) read about Don Cossacks (казаци-украйнци), they date more from 2000 years. It is in wikepedia, everyone can check it.
Exactly :) The same like your germanized type of dancing :) it can not be compared with the Bulgarian costums and traditons :) I couldn't see any similarity :) Of cource your type of dancing is fully germanized during the rule of the Habsburg monarchy :)
Ancient traditions are the Bulgarian fire dance :) This is ancient Bulgarian barefoot dance on embers :
watch/OXylP8MyRG0
It is not like saying that attila have played on viola :) hahahahahahah
-ab, like the Egyptian segregate group baking not flat breads, but sourdough-breads, named MagyarAB means in türkic languages (in hun. "-ág") branch/tribe.
Sali-ab, Sari-ab only simply means white tribe.
So came the Sarab, Serb and Saliab, Slav. Sclavi is also valid because the Romans thought of them that way. Which's why Atilla came back, to free the White Huns, who were being threatened by the Rom. Emp. Once he did all our people joined forces and made a Christian "empire" reaching to Maghreb.
I made a collection for this exact point today: /playlist?list=PLUMIIhEWHuEP8O-GDx_sMIkXIaSthbiUn
(Bulgarian is the 5th)
Of course. Rune writing appeared 7000 years ago from the Basin and south that we can read in Hungarian. Same runes are found in the Bosnian pyramids (in hungarian: peremes ("with rims(that go high)")), which they don't know, but could come from the time they were raised.
I thought you knew history. Atilla knew where he was coming BACK to.
Great example of german dancing: /watch?v=ddy4LJCC7bk
I couldn't watch it through!
But as you can see you could make similarity just as much with bulgarian dancing. It would be dishonoring to you as well to say these dancing elements came from germanics.
The point I'm trying to make 2 u is there're people who have preserved seeable elements of the ancient culture, like the list I've made, and who have lost it tried to retrieve it but since the meaning is lost, its just some arrogant showing-off.
That's where iSTeN comes in the Jurt through the top, since everything comes from top to bottom. As you will see in Naddeo's presentation Asia and Europe constantly worked together.
In the Jurt next is the letter SZe, the single line. It is the man, who is reaching for the light singularly.
Then come the Ke rune, the mother goddess diamond shape. They are the women holding the weight together at the bottom. You will see these man-woman relationships in the dances I collected as well.
Ignorance our enemy. I got to know about Sali and Sari partially from Serbs. Search "The still nameless equestrian and livestock-raising peoples roamed in this "endlessness". They were called in later historical writings: Cimmerians, Scythians, Sarmatians, Alans, Huns, Magyars, Bulgarians and Mongols."
& "Josephus Flavius"
in magyarmegmaradasert. hu/in-english/multi-topic/1672-celts-and-magyars
Sarmatians are the Pol(/BAL)aks, whom we call LeNGYeL. In most slavic langs. we are called "VeNGeR".
Legs crossing and agreeing/parallel
abeka. jtkf. hu/archive/kult/program/2008-12/szkita_20081202/verszerzodes. jpg
abeka. jtkf.hu/archive/kult/program/2008-12/szkita_20081202/verbaratok. jpg
1-300 ago: nagyhazi. hu/kepek/165/377457. jpg
Fej means "head" and "to milk" as well. That is why the spirit world is depicted with a deer with huge antlers, but the deer is a mother, since it is "milked", which is how you are linked to "The Milk Way"/Tejút. Tej is milk. Telj is "whole".
Vowels don't matter: /watch?v=YTlDGrFbaXI
Celts: magyarmegmaradasert. hu/in-english/multi-topic/1672-celts-and-magyars
One more cross on the cross is eGY(double-cross), counting that there is one of iSTeN. There is one of UNI.
Skip first ten minutes, its a boring interview: /watch?v=5dvG7VsdqLo Here you will see that the cross is very ancient.
Cross in a circle is rune Fe, for Fény, meaning "light" we call children "light of our eyes". It is what is at the top of a Yurt/Jurt(Gyúrt "kneeded")
Ukrainians are ukrainians, old nation, bulgarians come from asia, but they did mixed with tracians
Bal is "left" Sumer(who called themselves KieNGiR - K is hard H)inner God "Bal", Jo(bb)("Yo") is right, KNGR creator/outer God Ai ("Ay"). Looking at the map from Sumeria Bal (Left) is the West. so there is the sea Baltic, Balaton (left in the Carpathian (Celtic: CARpat means szeKÉR, CARt) Basin), Bal-ka(h)ns.
Also Genesis 10:25 Eber had two sons. The name of the first was Peleg, because the world became divided in his days. His brother's name was Yoktan.
Again, it is Pel-eg BAL(-ÁG), and JO(bb).
I had some time to look into this Chronography. It writes you are decendants of Ziezi, son of Shem. So if you accept this, you consider yourself a Jew.
Or are you separating Hebrews from Jews like westerners are doing today to defend the Zionic state? I'll read more later, I need to go berry picking, but my first impression of this makes me very sceptic. Maybe this is too quick an answer, I'll come back.
We've written the lineage from Nimrod to Árpád, Nimrod's from Japhet. Other lit. write Kam.
You'd have to point it out to me where the Ottomans influenced us :) ? I can clearly see the Germanic type of dancing in your culture :) Clwearly influenced by the Habsburg empire :) You were subgects in the Habsburg empire, not the other way :)
Bosnia have a Sevdah. Serbia have a Trumpets. Bulgaria have a rhythm and dances. Macedonia have a all that, and some more! I am not either one, but that just my opinion. Macedonia is a absolute winner if we talk about Balkan music, no offens and with all respect for other ethno music, I love all music which I mention, equally.
well no one has friends when it comes to tastes and preferences...but I get this opinion only from ex-Yugo people as they know no better...sorry but FYROM music is Ok but nothing special, typical chalgia....turbo folk style. just with Pirin alone there is more music and rhythm diversity...such as polyphony and all that...