I've been using my Bose L1 Compact for about 8 -10 years now and it has NEVER let me down. I play about 10 to 15 gigs per month. I too play with other musicians from time to time so all I did was add a cheap behringer 1202 mixer and the problem is solved. It also has the reverb effect for the vocals that I like to use. I put everything into the Behringer and take the left right main outs and, through an 3/4 to xlr adapter, plug it into the mic jack on my Bose L1. It sounds fantastic and I get compliments everywhere I play and I ALWAYS get asked back for return engagements. All Glory to God as they say, but I know the Bose has a lot to do with how well I am received (of course the Bose sound engineers can give GLory to God for their abilities, right lol!). I also use a Digitech Vocalist Live 3 for harmonies. Man I am in heaven with the quality sound I get. Just played for an outdoor crowd of about 500 last night and got no complaints about the sound. The Bose handled it just great. Immediately after got asked to do some re-bookings for the same event. Great review. Just add a cheap mixer and you'll be totally happy.
Thanks FiremanOly for this info. I was playing my 12-string electro-acoustic guitar and singing, using different equipment and setups from 70's to not so long ago. Nowadays, as I am into my 7th decade and don't want to deal with a heavy equipment, I've started to look at Bose's L1 systems, as I am using smaller Bose audio equipment at home and I am VERY happy with audio quality. I am presently looking to purchase at some point this year Bose L1 Compact, but adding Yamaha MG10XU mixer and TC Helicon Perform VG (vocal and acoustic guitar effects processor) which will do the trick for me. Thank you for a feedback on Lewis's Bose L1 Compact story 🙂👍
@@vinkor7824 Hey Vinko, I failed to mention that I also employ a digitech vocalist live 3 so I can add harmonies. Everyone has their own opinions on gear of course but even though the Vocalist Live 3 is a bit older technology I have found that it is the most user friendly and the most natural sounding harmonizer on the market. You can still find them for around 200 bucks in great shape. It allows me to do CSNY, Everly Brothers, Simon and Garfunkel, America, Eagles etc etc. and just about every other great vocal harmonies and sound really close to the original. I wouldn't be without anyone of those pieces of equipment in my arsenal. If my Bose got destroyed/stolen I would be back in the store the first thing the next morning to buy another one. I have lifted and set up thousands of tons of equipment over the years and my back has the aches and pains to prove it. Now it is nothing to set up my Bose and I truly think the sound quality is much better, because what I hear , the audience hears. I love it! Good luck. A bit pricey but so, so, well worth it!
Good read Fireman! Thanks. I use a VL4 with my L1 Compact. Also run it thru a JamMan Solo XT Looper Pedal. I lugged Peavey speakers around for decades along with a Fender Deluxe Guitar Amp. Retired now at 75 except for the annual Christmas Party. Do you put the VL3 into the mixer mono and out the mixer mono to the XLR Mic input of the Bose? My VL4 can sound strange going straight into the Mic input of the L1 Bose.
@@JMonk26 Thanks for commenting. I run a mono xlr output feed from my VL3 into the 1st channel xlr input of my behringer. From the Behringer mixer I like to take both left and right monitor outputs and put them into an adapter that takes the two 1/4 inch jacks and cpnverts to an XLR which I plug into the L1 mic input. For my guitar I of course first run it into the VL3 so the unit can properly get the chords/keys it needs to provide the harmonies, but I prefer to then plug it into a digitech RP 100. then the RP1 goes into the guitar jack of the L1. I dont use much if any of the VL3 effects on my guitar, just my guitar pedal. And like I said earlier, I prefer the reverb settings for my vocals, the the Behringer has to offer. Very happy with it and I get compliments from other musicians all the time that come up to check out my set up. Very simple set up for a simple guy like myself. Hope that helps.
@@vinkor7824 I am looking at the Bose L1 Compact for similar reasons: in my early 70s I'm finding my current kit too heavy to lug around. I currently use a Peavey XR-696F with 4x XLR mics for voice, plus one XLR radio mic for flute, and one stereo 2x 1/4inch jack for keyboard. I'm thinking: buy a light weight mixer to mix that lot and feed the result into the RCA sockets on the Bose L1 Compact. My stupid question of the day: I use stereo effects on my Tyros 4 keyboard so will they be correctly heard on the Bose L1 Compact? I.e. does it faithfully reproduce stereo sound or would I need two of them (which I can't afford). The Peavey provides 2 x 600W RMS but I have never had it turned up more than 1/4 of the way. Bose don't say how many Watts the L1 Compact delivers - they do say that it consumes 200W which means it will deliver less than 200 Watts of audio - as long as the result is close to 200W then that should be enough I reckon. What do you think?
I have the Bose L1 Compact and have used it for many years. I love it. The sound and portability are unmatched. And the Bose T1 is NOT just a mixer. It is 4 independent channel strips. And the presets for Mics/Guitars are excellent. If I had to re-buy a line array I would give the Harbringer MLS900 (to use with the T1) a long look because it is half the price. Thanks for your review.
Highly recomend the tc harmony singer. It has eq for the mic and reverb. Just tested my friends l1... God i am sold. The sound quality is just out of this world. Crisp, clear, bassy... I want one but do not want to sell my RCF EVOX 8 either (for larger gigs).
I have the L1 Compact. Make no mistake the Compact with a mixer/effects such as the Tonematch is far superior. I've done medium size clubs with the L1 Compact and the Tonematch and I use Backing Tracks with lead guitar instrumentals and vocals encompassing big ballads all running through it and it sounds great and that's according to the audience not me. I position it fairly close at the side of me and I can hear it quite plainly....dont need a monitor as it has 180 degrees spacial sound...very portable too. I used to be in a band in the 60's and 70's and did loads of working mens clubs and worked in France touring the American Army camps then in Germany humping big speakers and other gear all over the place in a Transit Van, so to find the L1 Compact at my age as a solo guitar/vocalist was amazing.
I have been using this system for many years. In larger gigs I used two of them connected together. In gigs over 150 people connect them to a house system. One of them is enough for a house concert, small club. They are portable, almost indestructible and great sound. Comments on the mixer: I use the T1 bose mixer. Works very well. Do not make the mistake into thinking that you can plug a bunch of instruments into this system via a larger mixer. Remember it is only one stick. One voice and guitar, perhaps two voices maximum, after that the system will start to distort or even compress to protect itself. It's really meant for one performer but you can cheat and add two at low volumes as long as the second one is not a keyboard or something that requires the whole frequency spectrum.
is this true? Im looking to get the l1 to play with two acoustic guitars and a mandolin as well as three mics hooking up to an allen heath zed10x mixer. Do you think that would muddy the sound?
Lewis I'm a DJ and Karaoke host and I run all of my gigs with 2 Bose L1 Compacts with a Peavey PV10AT mixer. I've also run sound with this same set up for a small 4 piece band. I get nothing but amazing comments about how great this small, compact, PA system sounds. I recommend looking at adding a mixer similar to what I use to your arsenal. There are better and more advanced mixers then the one I use available, however, for the price, it works great for me. Good luck in your search.
I play in a classic rock duo and we use two Bose L1 systems. I use a 12 channel Behringer board and we use midi tracks also to go through the Bose. I really love this system. My partner and I also use vocal harmonizers. We have used Digitech Vocalists for about 10 years. I bought a TC Helicon G-XT to replace one of our Digitech Vocalist units (it got accidentally damaged when something fell on it). The TC Helicon is a great unit and I think is actually better than the Digitech Vocalist but I ended up not using it and buying another Vocalist. Why? Because I found the TC Helicon to be overly sensitive. It picks up background sounds coming from the PA or a monitor and tries to harmonize those stray sounds. In this way part of what it makes it better is what makes it less ideal for my situation. I think the TC Helicon would be better for a solo artist. The reverb's in the TC Helicon are excellent but so are the reverb's in the Digitech. As a matter of form the Digitech Vocalist has more convenient foot pedals where the TC Helicon has "effects pedal" style switches. In a dark club it is much easier to find the on off pedal on the Digitech Vocalist. That's my opinion.
I would also add that the TC Helicon is much more complicated to operate. It has a ton of effects parameters, settings and memory patches but in all honesty I set my Digitech on to one harmony over , one under (high 3rd and low 5th) and I don't change it all night. That was also a major consideration on going back to a Digitech Vocalist. I don't have time to get down and mess with settings between songs. I still own the TC Helicon and keep it as a backup. Again just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
I personally own three different Digitech vocalist threes and would not ever be with out them. I have one loaned out to a friend and I have one as a spare just in case. Don't want to brag but I think I can sound AMAZING with my set up. I get about 10 to 15 gigs a month and I usually end up passing on another 2 to 3 gigs to my buddies. I have no doubt that a lot of the credit for my demand goes to the system I use (and don't over use I might add). The bose L1 compact, my Taylor guitar, Digitech Vocalist 3, and my Behringer 1202 Xenyx mixer, along with a cheap digitech RP 100 guitar pedal, make for an unbeatable sound. I like the vocal reverb on my Behringer better than the reverb on my vocalist 3, plus it allows me to have a guest singer come on up and plug in. God Bless and keep sharing your gifts!
Yeah - I'd go Digitech Vocalist as well. Using the LIVE 4 I like that I can setup custom FX settings for both the voice and GTR and scroll through easily while playing live. For me I never touch the harmonized vocals - too robotic / artificial I reckon. but to add that sparket to Guitar and Vocie - it works a treat plus a very handy and easy to see guitar tuner onboard.
I jammed in the weekend with a band that used two L1 model 2 Bose systems with the 8 channel Tonematch mixer, we had trouble with feedback and the vocals sounded thin and after 25 minutes of trying to work it out we just backed off the frequency we thought was giving us grief and hoped for the best, was not a great jam vocally. Ironically I use two Bose L1 model 1. Units myself and have never had this much trouble with vocals, although if you play in a rock band I think they struggle because I cannot have my master volume above 50% or it will feedback, what I did notice is that when I used my behringer mixer instead of my T4 it seemed more manageable, maybe someone with more knowledge with these units could help. But at lower volume or with a two piece band they sound great. Just my thoughts.
@@rubberbandlevin Like you I do not use the Bose Tonematch with my L1 systems, I use a 12 channel Behringer Xenyx mixer and we use Shure 87A condenser microphones. I have no problem with feedback at relatively high volume in medium sized clubs. I didn't buy the Tonematch because I already had the Behringer mixer and a 12 channel Mackie mixer. The Tonematch mixers are way overpriced. I set the volume on the L1's to 50% and let the mixer do the heavy lifting. We can get pretty loud with no distortion from the Bose L1. I guess it depends how loud the musicians themselves are to start with.
Excellent review that tracks well both with many other reviews and my own experience. A couple notes: Bose products tend to be pricey, but in the U.S. at least, you usually get outstanding customer service. And in the case of the Tonematch T1 (and newer T4S), you're getting features not available on comparable analog mixers, such as the stored optimized mic (and guitar) settings (limited in my judgment), "scene" saving, and when used with upper-level units like the L1 Model 2, the ability to power the Tonematch by plugging it into the base unit just via the fancy Cat 5 cable that also carries the audio--no power brick required. Nevertheless Compact fans have been asking for years for built-in reverb and basic tone shaping, but no luck (they gave in on the newer, smaller S1.) Last of all, the Boss VE-8 pedal is a great companion to the Compact, with a variety of effects including chorus, an "acoustic resonance" feature that takes out much of the quackiness of piezo pickups, reverb, a vocal harmonizer, a vocal "enhance" effect I don't use, and a basic looper. You can also set low, mid and high EQ for both voice and guitar, but this requires some second-level fiddling with the controls that normal human beings won't be able to manage live. It can also run on batteries, certainly enough for a gig. Good luck, hope the gigs are going great.
Thanks so much for your comments! I seem to have hit on something here! I am still searching for the perfect solution - more videos to follow! The gigs are going well thanks!
Great review. I have been looking at a range of self contained PAs for my solo act. I like the fact that you admitted that you chose to "splurge." Performers need to give themselves permission to invest in equipment a couple of levels higher than they think will do. It's amazing how it helps with confidence and competence. Thanks also for your detailed descriptions of the pubs and crowd size - that's a very practical way of describing its power. I'm writing this in March 2022. Getting ready to get out there and perform once again, and I will be buying a Bose L1 thanks to your great review (and a couple of other peoples' reviews too). Cheers!
I've been using the L1 Compact for about 10 years. I dropped down from the full-sized L1 system, and found that the compact system was actually all that I needed. I have 2 systems, and I've actually used them both in an L-shaped room - they worked great. I use a DigiTech pedal for reverb and harmony, and the whole system sounds amazing; the pedal actually adds quite a bit of volume to the vocal channel, as well. All in all, I'm VERY pleased with the system - especially the portability. 28 pounds of dynamite!
Thanks, great review. I've never played a gig without a mixer, ive always attached a small mixer for the instant fader control, extra input channels, effects etc.
Great review and such amazing bit of kit for its size. As a sound engineer myself for my small to medium setup I run Allen and heath qu24 bose 802s and 502b subs with qsc amps not forgetting the bose controller and it sounds brilliant bose are just the masters of getting big sound out of small units but I think the tone match is a must
Hi Lewis, nice upfront review. I use a Bose L1 model 2 system - great pa, the Bose compact is designed for the small pub/room acoustic gig realistically, still a great system though. I have the Tonematch with my system, these are an absolute must if you’re using a Bose PA, the tonal range you can achieve is second to none, I know - I use one. You can buy the Tonematch 1 (earlier version) for a little as £250.00 new (old stock in some stores), this has guitar effects, mic tone shaping and great reverbs. You could dump your pedal board and just use the Tonematch - problem solved! Might be worth mentioning I use a TC Helicon Play GTX which does all the guitar, vocal harmonies, and effects - these can be purchased used for around £150.00. I know you may be a little disappointed with the lack of effects on Bose, but rest assured you won’t get better sound reproduction and coverage than a Bose- fact! I have gigged as a solo musician with mine for years, wouldn’t change it for the anything else......go on spend just a little bit more money and buy the icing on the cake - the Tonematch. Cheers,John.
Hi John, thanks for your comment! Yeah, the more I’ve researched, the more the tonematch seems inevitable! I just don’t understand why Bose couldn’t have just put a reverb on board! The gigs continue to stack up and so I will be looking to make a change soon. May even review the new gear as and when I get it so watch this space! Thanks again for your tips, very much appreciated!
@@lewisforemanmusic I'm looking to replace a big, heavy traditional PA with something like this Bose unit (actually 2 of them). Our band has 5 pieces, with one of the players using keys, mandolin, banjo, harmonica, accordion (yes) and voice. I have to submix her on a Alesis unit and put her into one of the channels on the main mixer (Soundcraft 12-channel). So, with all this processing going on before even reaching the L1, will this be a suitable use? You referenced briefly a review that mentioned using the L1 with mixers which sounded less than enthusiastic. Do know where I might find that? Very lucid review that talks about things that real-world musicians care about. Good job.
@@robkeast9091 Hi Rob, thanks for your comments, sounds like my kind of band! I have tried to find the review for you but have been unsuccessful so far. It was backed up by a representative from a very well known online retailer. Basically, without the dedicated Bose mixer, I have been told that it doesn't sound 'as good' but will still deliver. It might be worth heading to a shop with a few options, trying them out and getting some further advice. It will also give you an overview as to whether this is loud enough for your needs etc. Thanks for your kind words, I am trying to help working musicians with their gear choices as its a minefield out there! Do let me know if there is anything you'd like to see reviewed.
@@robkeast9091 the Bose system is much heavier than you might imagine. I ended up exchanging mine for a compact. You can literally buy 3 compacts for the same price as an L2 system.
I have always used a small Mackie mixer with this unit. It sounds amazing. (Have considered the ToneMatch...maybe some day). I've purchased a TC Helicon to try, as I can have it on the mic stand, but haven't had much time to mess with it. I use the Compact for about 90% of my gigs. I have also added in a few other performers through the mixer occasionally using just this unit and the Bose has handled it all really well. Dependable and great sound. Just get a small inexpensive mixer for effects and some EQ and you're good to go.
Great review pal. I’m a karaoke DJ and took all you said on board. I bought 2 of these speakers as I have work lined up for larger venues. They are amazing. The karaoke singers love them and like you say the sound out of them are fantastic. Cheers for your review as it’s helped me decide. Cheers. Ged. 👍🎤👍🎤
Lewis Foreman thanks Lewis. Hope your system is working well. If your ever in Manchester let me know and if I’m not working myself I will come see you.
hi, Lewis, thanks for nice video! I aggree with you:) Well,I am solo performer like you and using same Bose L1, Voice Live Touch 2 and run them with a very small mixer (soundcraft s.pad 8fx).I Ve got a great sound,my own sound. But you ll have always questions about your guitar sound.Because as long as we line in our guitars into any pedal there happens some new factors,signal is changing,having efx of pedal or change of the natural guitar signal into a plastic feeling
Hi there! Thanks for your comment. I know exactly what you mean by the 'plastic' feeling and i think thats always an acoustic musician's goal! avoid the plastic at all costs!
Hi Lewis, do you still use the Bose L1 compact and what are you using with it now? I have one and use the newest Soundcraft Mixer which has as 1 of the options a karaoke button(reverb and compression). I only turn it on just enough to give the effect. Through research and talking to music store pros, I do not hook my mixer into the xlr of the PA, I connect to the 1/4 “. I believe that is how it shows in the manual as well. Just recently I bought a 2nd hand Sony Subwoofer(same watts actually-130) delivers that low end that is missing. I have in the past paired it with the Costco PA speaker...sweet. One more thing and probably the best improvement-not using the industry standard sm58 mic! Using the Sennheiser 935.
Great review, very well presented and very helpful. Any chance of a new update now you are another 6 months on. Did you get a vocal effects pedal or the Bose tone match?
Dude thank you for this! I do acoustic gigs and sing as well, and my wife also sings with me for some songs, so I’d need to upgrade to the one with the Bose mixer. But I’m tired of all of the set-up with my current system…huge speakers, stands, etc
One of the very very best reviews of in fact anything lve ever seen. Exactly what a musician needs to hear....bare bones...honest, no bullshit or sugar coated crap....straight to the jugular....well done old mate!!! Been toying with the idea of getting one of these for a while now.... finger on trigger....just wondering if 2 complete L1 systems would be over the top or not?? I like lots of sound ( yes volume too)...l play Stratocasters...Shadows...Surf...Blues.. Rock n Roll....anyone out there using 2 of these units....?? Would love the feedback!! Thankyou in advance 👍😊🙏
Hi John, thank you so much for your kind message. I get sick of people not speaking the truth about equipment and then finding the faults myself, hence the 'honest review' title. I would say this is a great unit for your needs. Maybe try one and see how you get on. Personally, I think one will be great for you. Thanks again for taking the time out to leave a message!
Great review ! Thank you for sharing for feelings on that PA which I'm thinking of bying it. I sing live with music recordings and I was wondering about the mids eq. Are they quite present ? Thanks again
Hi Lewis really good review, I too have just invested in 2 of these L1 compacts but I use a Allen & Heath mixer and a TC Helicon VoiceLive Play. But I play guitar and sing to backing tracks and also sometimes play with a keyboard player, but just like you I have been hearing things on my backing tracks and Fender Strat that I never heard on my conventional powered speakers as good as they were, and it really inspires you doesn't it. Anyway well done Lewis :)
GRAY TAYLOR thanks so much Gray! It’s a fantastic piece of equipment, just need to sort that vocal sound out! Hope to be doing more reviews so like and subscribe if you’re interested!
@@lewisforemanmusic the Play is amazing just a touch of reverb/delay/and double, I always get great coms on my vocals. I live in Christchurch Dorset how about you?
By the way you were right about the bass its really clean and although my old QSCs 12s were really deeep sounding they seem to cover up some of the important frequencies, and I think thats why I can now hear lots more instruments from my backing tracks that I didn't hear before.
@@lewisforemanmusic Hi Buddy - yes I ended up with two so my PA is now stereo. Wow so impressed with this system. The main reason I wanted one was because we travel in a caravan and you have to be very careful with weight. This PA fits the bill and also sounds amazing, Thanks again for your review - it set me on the right track.
The Original Bose L1 System was released for sale in the year 2006 and the 4 Channel Tone-match was released 4 months later after the initial release of the L1
I just bought one and I agree with you views. L1c was designed about 10 years ago and I think its high time they update this thing (with at least reverb and EQ for both channels). I also bought a Bose S1 and that sounds so much better with the added reverb. T4 + power is almost $700 so I will be returning the L1c.
Lewis... Thanks for the review! I play similar venues and I have gigged with my Marshal as50d as well. I opted for the QSC 8.2s. I have a zed 10 mixer that I’ve used for years. However, in a loud room I use my marshal for a monitor. I’m curious, have you tried using your Marshal to get the vocal fx you desire, then di out to the Bose? Did they play nice together?
Did you every get a mixer or extra pedal. ? I got a the Bose mixer as an extra and the biggest advantage is now I have all different memories scenes set for the different gigs I play. Which makes setting up the sound and inputs plug and play for open mic nights, duos or small band gigs too. As you said it’s an investment that I made and haven’t looked back.
I am still looking for the right match! tried out a couple of pedals for the vocals and haven't been blown away yet! I shall have to make a follow-up video after this one has gone so well! thanks for taking the time to comment!
Hey man, great and honest review! Just wanted to point out that while, as you mentioned, the bose t1 tonematch mixer is 4 channels, 3 of those are mono and 1 is stereo. Which means that you can, as you talked about, have ur guitar AND mic plugged in, have a keyboard player sit in (plugged in in stereo, beautiful) and still have one channel to spare. The t1 also has the tonematch function which is supposed to make mixing a lot easier as it has eq presets for a bunch of instruments and microphones. Really a pretty unique device that I recommend you look into. Also, another product to look into is the yamaha stagepas 1k which has built in reverb. Also, I'm not getting paid to say this ha :)
Thank you so much for your video, very helpful! I would love to have your opinion, like you, I play guitar and sing and was looking for a PA system. Like you, my voice needs a little boost :-) have you seen the new JBL EON one compact? Wondering if it would be a good choice since you have the app for effects. Or the BOSE S1 since they added a reverb but wondering if it would be loud enough... thanks again
Hey, i'm really glad my video helped! The Bose s1 is a great piece of kit but only aimed towards 50 people in the audience so it really depends on your specific needs. I'm not familiar with the JBL Eon one, I would say find your nearest dealer and go and try as many out as possible (when theyre able to open of course!). Thanks again for your comment and I hope you like the channel!
Excellent presentation and review from having actual experience with the L1 compact. So many column array system demos are from a DJ’s experience and point of view. That being said, if you’re gigging enough to justify the expence- the tonematch 4 or 8 are outstanding. Hopefully you might find one on the used market for a decent price since they are a bit expensive as new. During pandemic there is lots of used gear being unloaded on the used market. Love your review.
Get the Tunematch from Bose that is paired with the Bose. The best with the Best, it is worth the investment! Start with the small unit see if you like it and you can always upgrade! I have 2 L1 speakers and they are fantastic...
awesome review. i’m also looking into this unit but i’ve always altered eq and used reverb on my vocals and i just can’t see myself signing without it. i would definitely need to buy more kit to gig with this unit. you should post a follow up video when you do buy the mixer or something else to go with it. that would be super helpful! cheers
Hey Lewis, thanks for the great review. I'm just wondering on monitoring/hearing yourself, specially for the larger rooms - I guess it seems a long way from a couple of outward-facing speakers and a little monitor wedge. Could you comment on placing the 'pole' and any issues with hearing yourself vs. getting best position for the crowd; any feedback issues? Cheers. Let me know when you're playing Swindon too!!!
Hi Jol, My apologies for the delay in getting back to you! For the first few gigs, i set this up parallel to myself and to the left. With the directional speakers, this works well to hear yourself whilst you're playing. I have experimented with different positions and so far, thats the best all round option and I don't see the need for monitors. I have also played venues with this directly behind me (usually a PA nono for feedback reasons). I have never experienced feedback with this unit and I don't understand how that is possible. The only issue with it directly behind is playing at high volume damaging your ears. still sounds great though! Hope that helps, feel free to ask me anything else! Also, thanks for the facebook like!
You will probably be very happy with the TC helicon unit for vocals. Or if you want a small digital mixer something like the Midas MR 16. Otherwise, when you decide you’ve outgrown this Bose L1 compact, check out the JBL PRX one. Multiple input channels, built-in effects and EQ. And it fills a much bigger space than this Bose unit.
I'm thinking of one off these.. a little more expensive here in the states. the good thing,,, I don't sing, just acoustic guitar and related instruments. I have a fisherman aural spectra I would be using also.. good to know the sound quality is Bose
Lewis Foreman Guitar yes I did. I’ve not used it a lot since I haven’t had acoustic for a while. But I have used it for a couple presentations. It sounds awesome.
Great video!! I’m looking at getting a more portable PA system for gigs and busking - preferably one that is battery powered! Is the Bose L1 battery powered too? Many thanks 😊
Thanks for this review, even though I'm two and a half years late to the party. I'm interested in something like this because, after decades of gigging with conventional PAs, I'm wanting to "scale down"....both in gear and, to some extent, volume. (loudness) I'm putting together a new ensemble, with guitar, electric bass, small drum kit, and sax. There will be at least two or three of us singing, (plus sax) Drums will NOT be mic'd, and guitar and bass will each have their own small amps. So the question is, as we did fifty years ago, is this adequate as a primarily VOCAL PA system? Any suggestions welcome.....thanks.
Thanks for checking it out! In my opinion, its a fantastic all round PA system and can pack a punch volume wise, you would just need a decent mixer to level everything out the way you wanted. Also bare in mind that you might want to put two of these together for the sort of size band you're talking about, just to have the options of getting it loud enough so the drums feel 'in the mix'. Hope that helps!
This is an excellent review and I’m in the same position. I currently play small coffee shops and open mic nights through a Boss Acoustic Singer Pro. I’ve started playing larger venues probably up to 100 people and more pubs/clubs. Will these systems do for pub gigs where people are more likely to be a bit louder. I usually play country pubs etc ?
Hi Mick, this is perfect for rowdy pubs and clubs. The extension speaker means it's over 6ft high which is great for filling the busiest of small rooms! Thanks for the comment
I play small acoustic gigs too and also use the L1 compact. I’ve had the same feeling about the lack of voice effects. I too prefer a little “sugar” on my voice so I currently run the input through another small amp with effects but I’m considering buying the Tonematch. The reviews on it are pretty great! I’m curious about your foot pedals. I’ve never used them but often wonder if I’m missing something. I play classic rock and country music. What type of pedals do you use and why?
Hi and thanks for your comment! Tonematch would certainly eliminate the need for the additional amp you use - lots of great features on there. With regards to pedals, this is ever changing but, for the most part, a tuner, reverb, boost and looper are essential for me. I will be making a video about my pedal board asap so keep an eye out for that! Thanks again for reaching out.
Nice review, I own this and the Bigger L1, the only thing I would say in defence of this particular unit is that one compact is just enough for 2 live inputs ie guitar and vox and backing track, as soon as you start adding other instruments "musician" especially keyboards it starts to bum out. Used as intended for a solo performer I don't think a faster, smaller better sounding system exists imho.
Hi Chris, Thanks for your comment. i agree, 2 inputs doesnt cater for many in a live setting which kind of forces your hand to buy the mixer unit that goes with it! I bought it because its all the inputs i need in a live setting and it serves me pretty well.
@@lewisforemanmusic Hi Lewis, Thanks for the reply, what I really meant to put across in my comment was that the L1 compact just doesn't really have that much headroom for more than two instruments performing at the same time , even if you connect a T1, granted it does give more channels but the speaker can't handle it very well at large volumes, as it was really designed as personal PA system as Bose intended for one L1 per user.
This post is a great example of youtubes 'Dislikes.. Whats there Not to like ? This was a Great review ! Therefore 'Explain yourself why you don't like it.. thats why we have a comment section. - sigh -
Great review! Thank you. Thinking about getting back into solo gigging and love the idea of this system for all the obvious reasons.... but also because it seems like it would sound great for small restaurant bars. Love the covers too! Keep it up and consider checking out my covers! 😎 👏🏼
Thank you for the review. I am curious why you would expect more than 2 inputs or onboard effects? This is basically a powered speaker. No powered speakers have them
Thanks for your comments. Firstly, no problem with the 2 inputs, I was just making people aware of that's all you get and secondly I was pointing out that if it did have on board reverb then this would be a huge plus point above competitors. As this is predominantly aimed at musicians, this little touch would have been quite the bonus!
Lewis Foreman I’m a vocalist as much as I am a guitarist and I spend money on a microphone and a mixer as part of my kit the way that guitarists spend on pedals. In fact my Yamaha mixer is the same price as a voodoo pedal power that everyone seems to have.
Add a TC Helicon Harmony singer 2..and you'll be grand ( Harmonies...reverb... "combines EQ (equalization) with compression, de-esser and gate to automatically control the timbre and shape of your sound")
Wondering how this would work as an ad-on to my AER acoustic amp. My amp has great sound but doesn't give the dispersion that this gets. And, yes, from what I know of this system I agree 100%. Why couldn't they have put a basic digital reverb in there? I'm sure they would clean up with that combination. Thanks for a great review.
Hi Steven, thanks for your comment. I think using this along the aer would be a great combo. You could potentially use your Aer as your monitor and the bose as your front of house. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
Hi Lewis! Thanks for the video! I’m searching high and low to figure out how to use my Shure Beta 58a with my L1 but am lost. I have a Behringer Xenyz 1202 mixer but it’s been a long time since I’ve used my rig and I can’t figure it out. Oh please, can you help me? Thank you so much!
Christene! I'm so sorry, i have only just seen this for some reason! The mic should go into the mixer and then you will need to connect the output of the mixer to one of the channels on your L1. You will just need either an xlr cable or jack to jack (guitar) cable and it should be as simple as that. Does that help at all? thanks so much for checking the video out!
Question: People keep telling me the L1 compact and an S1 Pro are the ideal combination... but having just seen that it includes tops i'm confused by that, any idea what they mean? Would they mean just the sub and an S1 Pro? thanks
Hi Scott, ive not heard of that combo myself but this could be for a lot of reasons. Perhaps using the S1 pro a a monitor speaker or to give a stereo setup in bigger venues? Haven't tried this myself! Thanks for your comment and supporting the channel
Simple fix............buy a mixer....the Bose T4 and 8 are wonderful. Yes the compact works well as a stand alone unit. But having a mixer with effects really opens the unit up big time. Either the Bose T4 0r 8 mixer or a Mackie with effects works great.
I had the tone match mixer from bose and tried it on my bose speakers. Wasn't impressed at all! Sold it, and went back to the old reliable Yamaha mixer which I like way better....and cheaper as well.
Most of my gigs (50-60 capacity clubs) I will have both channels set half way volume wise. Fills the room perfectly. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Hi Lewis, thanks for your helpful review. I can recommend the TC Helicon Perform.V for vocal effects - it is small and clips onto the mic stand for easy control and muting of effects when talking. I've done a review here: ua-cam.com/video/7ucef8nsMhQ/v-deo.html Feel free to check out my microphone reviews and singing stuff. All the best, Anton
You should have spent the extra $ and got the middle tier system. It has 4 outputs , has the tone match system, and fuller sound.. I have mine set up to a home studio with a Midi Keyboard and it sounds amazing.. Tons of bass for such a compact piece of equipment..
Thanks for your comment. I did look ever-so briefly at the middle tier system but went against it for convenience. Perhaps you're right! These Bose units do pack a punch in the bass department! Thanks again!
I've been using my Bose L1 Compact for about 8 -10 years now and it has NEVER let me down. I play about 10 to 15 gigs per month. I too play with other musicians from time to time so all I did was add a cheap behringer 1202 mixer and the problem is solved. It also has the reverb effect for the vocals that I like to use. I put everything into the Behringer and take the left right main outs and, through an 3/4 to xlr adapter, plug it into the mic jack on my Bose L1. It sounds fantastic and I get compliments everywhere I play and I ALWAYS get asked back for return engagements. All Glory to God as they say, but I know the Bose has a lot to do with how well I am received (of course the Bose sound engineers can give GLory to God for their abilities, right lol!). I also use a Digitech Vocalist Live 3 for harmonies. Man I am in heaven with the quality sound I get. Just played for an outdoor crowd of about 500 last night and got no complaints about the sound. The Bose handled it just great. Immediately after got asked to do some re-bookings for the same event. Great review. Just add a cheap mixer and you'll be totally happy.
Thanks FiremanOly for this info. I was playing my 12-string electro-acoustic guitar and singing, using different equipment and setups from 70's to not so long ago. Nowadays, as I am into my 7th decade and don't want to deal with a heavy equipment, I've started to look at Bose's L1 systems, as I am using smaller Bose audio equipment at home and I am VERY happy with audio quality.
I am presently looking to purchase at some point this year Bose L1 Compact, but adding Yamaha MG10XU mixer and TC Helicon Perform VG (vocal and acoustic guitar effects processor) which will do the trick for me.
Thank you for a feedback on Lewis's Bose L1 Compact story 🙂👍
@@vinkor7824 Hey Vinko, I failed to mention that I also employ a digitech vocalist live 3 so I can add harmonies. Everyone has their own opinions on gear of course but even though the Vocalist Live 3 is a bit older technology I have found that it is the most user friendly and the most natural sounding harmonizer on the market. You can still find them for around 200 bucks in great shape. It allows me to do CSNY, Everly Brothers, Simon and Garfunkel, America, Eagles etc etc. and just about every other great vocal harmonies and sound really close to the original. I wouldn't be without anyone of those pieces of equipment in my arsenal. If my Bose got destroyed/stolen I would be back in the store the first thing the next morning to buy another one. I have lifted and set up thousands of tons of equipment over the years and my back has the aches and pains to prove it. Now it is nothing to set up my Bose and I truly think the sound quality is much better, because what I hear , the audience hears. I love it! Good luck. A bit pricey but so, so, well worth it!
Good read Fireman! Thanks. I use a VL4 with my L1 Compact. Also run it thru a JamMan Solo XT Looper Pedal. I lugged Peavey speakers around for decades along with a Fender Deluxe Guitar Amp. Retired now at 75 except for the annual Christmas Party. Do you put the VL3 into the mixer mono and out the mixer mono to the XLR Mic input of the Bose? My VL4 can sound strange going straight into the Mic input of the L1 Bose.
@@JMonk26 Thanks for commenting. I run a mono xlr output feed from my VL3 into the 1st channel xlr input of my behringer. From the Behringer mixer I like to take both left and right monitor outputs and put them into an adapter that takes the two 1/4 inch jacks and cpnverts to an XLR which I plug into the L1 mic input. For my guitar I of course first run it into the VL3 so the unit can properly get the chords/keys it needs to provide the harmonies, but I prefer to then plug it into a digitech RP 100. then the RP1 goes into the guitar jack of the L1. I dont use much if any of the VL3 effects on my guitar, just my guitar pedal. And like I said earlier, I prefer the reverb settings for my vocals, the the Behringer has to offer. Very happy with it and I get compliments from other musicians all the time that come up to check out my set up. Very simple set up for a simple guy like myself. Hope that helps.
@@vinkor7824 I am looking at the Bose L1 Compact for similar reasons: in my early 70s I'm finding my current kit too heavy to lug around. I currently use a Peavey XR-696F with 4x XLR mics for voice, plus one XLR radio mic for flute, and one stereo 2x 1/4inch jack for keyboard. I'm thinking: buy a light weight mixer to mix that lot and feed the result into the RCA sockets on the Bose L1 Compact. My stupid question of the day: I use stereo effects on my Tyros 4 keyboard so will they be correctly heard on the Bose L1 Compact? I.e. does it faithfully reproduce stereo sound or would I need two of them (which I can't afford). The Peavey provides 2 x 600W RMS but I have never had it turned up more than 1/4 of the way. Bose don't say how many Watts the L1 Compact delivers - they do say that it consumes 200W which means it will deliver less than 200 Watts of audio - as long as the result is close to 200W then that should be enough I reckon. What do you think?
I have the Bose L1 Compact and have used it for many years. I love it. The sound and portability are unmatched. And the Bose T1 is NOT just a mixer. It is 4 independent channel strips. And the presets for Mics/Guitars are excellent.
If I had to re-buy a line array I would give the Harbringer MLS900 (to use with the T1) a long look because it is half the price. Thanks for your review.
Highly recomend the tc harmony singer. It has eq for the mic and reverb. Just tested my friends l1... God i am sold. The sound quality is just out of this world. Crisp, clear, bassy... I want one but do not want to sell my RCF EVOX 8 either (for larger gigs).
I have the L1 Compact. Make no mistake the Compact with a mixer/effects such as the Tonematch is far superior. I've done medium size clubs with the L1 Compact and the Tonematch and I use Backing Tracks with lead guitar instrumentals and vocals encompassing big ballads all running through it and it sounds great and that's according to the audience not me. I position it fairly close at the side of me and I can hear it quite plainly....dont need a monitor as it has 180 degrees spacial sound...very portable too. I used to be in a band in the 60's and 70's and did loads of working mens clubs and worked in France touring the American Army camps then in Germany humping big speakers and other gear all over the place in a Transit Van, so to find the L1 Compact at my age as a solo guitar/vocalist was amazing.
I have been using this system for many years. In larger gigs I used two of them connected together. In gigs over 150 people connect them to a house system. One of them is enough for a house concert, small club. They are portable, almost indestructible and great sound. Comments on the mixer: I use the T1 bose mixer. Works very well. Do not make the mistake into thinking that you can plug a bunch of instruments into this system via a larger mixer. Remember it is only one stick. One voice and guitar, perhaps two voices maximum, after that the system will start to distort or even compress to protect itself. It's really meant for one performer but you can cheat and add two at low volumes as long as the second one is not a keyboard or something that requires the whole frequency spectrum.
is this true? Im looking to get the l1 to play with two acoustic guitars and a mandolin as well as three mics hooking up to an allen heath zed10x mixer. Do you think that would muddy the sound?
All that into one L1 compact is too much in my opinion. Maybe at very low volume, but certainly not if you are trying service a room full of people.
I have a Boss V8 I believe it's called and it is a harmonizer as well as effects on voice and effects on guitar.. quite happy with it
Lewis many thanks for your review you are also very modest and honest .
Look forward to more of your gig stories.
Hi Tim, thank you so much for your comment, i'll see what I can do with the stories!
Lewis I'm a DJ and Karaoke host and I run all of my gigs with 2 Bose L1 Compacts with a Peavey PV10AT mixer. I've also run sound with this same set up for a small 4 piece band. I get nothing but amazing comments about how great this small, compact, PA system sounds. I recommend looking at adding a mixer similar to what I use to your arsenal. There are better and more advanced mixers then the one I use available, however, for the price, it works great for me. Good luck in your search.
dam for real? I'm surprised that the bass is sufficient for a DJ set on these.
I play in a classic rock duo and we use two Bose L1 systems. I use a 12 channel Behringer board and we use midi tracks also to go through the Bose. I really love this system. My partner and I also use vocal harmonizers. We have used Digitech Vocalists for about 10 years. I bought a TC Helicon G-XT to replace one of our Digitech Vocalist units (it got accidentally damaged when something fell on it). The TC Helicon is a great unit and I think is actually better than the Digitech Vocalist but I ended up not using it and buying another Vocalist. Why? Because I found the TC Helicon to be overly sensitive. It picks up background sounds coming from the PA or a monitor and tries to harmonize those stray sounds. In this way part of what it makes it better is what makes it less ideal for my situation. I think the TC Helicon would be better for a solo artist. The reverb's in the TC Helicon are excellent but so are the reverb's in the Digitech. As a matter of form the Digitech Vocalist has more convenient foot pedals where the TC Helicon has "effects pedal" style switches. In a dark club it is much easier to find the on off pedal on the Digitech Vocalist. That's my opinion.
I would also add that the TC Helicon is much more complicated to operate. It has a ton of effects parameters, settings and memory patches but in all honesty I set my Digitech on to one harmony over , one under (high 3rd and low 5th) and I don't change it all night. That was also a major consideration on going back to a Digitech Vocalist. I don't have time to get down and mess with settings between songs. I still own the TC Helicon and keep it as a backup. Again just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.
I personally own three different Digitech vocalist threes and would not ever be with out them. I have one loaned out to a friend and I have one as a spare just in case. Don't want to brag but I think I can sound AMAZING with my set up. I get about 10 to 15 gigs a month and I usually end up passing on another 2 to 3 gigs to my buddies. I have no doubt that a lot of the credit for my demand goes to the system I use (and don't over use I might add). The bose L1 compact, my Taylor guitar, Digitech Vocalist 3, and my Behringer 1202 Xenyx mixer, along with a cheap digitech RP 100 guitar pedal, make for an unbeatable sound. I like the vocal reverb on my Behringer better than the reverb on my vocalist 3, plus it allows me to have a guest singer come on up and plug in. God Bless and keep sharing your gifts!
Yeah - I'd go Digitech Vocalist as well. Using the LIVE 4 I like that I can setup custom FX settings for both the voice and GTR and scroll through easily while playing live. For me I never touch the harmonized vocals - too robotic / artificial I reckon. but to add that sparket to Guitar and Vocie - it works a treat plus a very handy and easy to see guitar tuner onboard.
I jammed in the weekend with a band that used two L1 model 2 Bose systems with the 8 channel Tonematch mixer, we had trouble with feedback and the vocals sounded thin and after 25 minutes of trying to work it out we just backed off the frequency we thought was giving us grief and hoped for the best, was not a great jam vocally.
Ironically I use two Bose L1 model 1. Units myself and have never had this much trouble with vocals, although if you play in a rock band I think they struggle because I cannot have my master volume above 50% or it will feedback, what I did notice is that when I used my behringer mixer instead of my T4 it seemed more manageable, maybe someone with more knowledge with these units could help.
But at lower volume or with a two piece band they sound great.
Just my thoughts.
@@rubberbandlevin Like you I do not use the Bose Tonematch with my L1 systems, I use a 12 channel Behringer Xenyx mixer and we use Shure 87A condenser microphones. I have no problem with feedback at relatively high volume in medium sized clubs. I didn't buy the Tonematch because I already had the Behringer mixer and a 12 channel Mackie mixer. The Tonematch mixers are way overpriced. I set the volume on the L1's to 50% and let the mixer do the heavy lifting. We can get pretty loud with no distortion from the Bose L1. I guess it depends how loud the musicians themselves are to start with.
You should try out the TC-Helicon Harmony Singer, it is the ideal tool for solo performers.
Excellent review! I'm looking into this system for solo gigs, and you covered pretty much all the points I was looking to learn about. Many thanks!
Glad it helped!
Immediately subscribed... What a genuine helpful review. Thank you Lewis. Cheers Brian
Excellent review that tracks well both with many other reviews and my own experience. A couple notes: Bose products tend to be pricey, but in the U.S. at least, you usually get outstanding customer service. And in the case of the Tonematch T1 (and newer T4S), you're getting features not available on comparable analog mixers, such as the stored optimized mic (and guitar) settings (limited in my judgment), "scene" saving, and when used with upper-level units like the L1 Model 2, the ability to power the Tonematch by plugging it into the base unit just via the fancy Cat 5 cable that also carries the audio--no power brick required. Nevertheless Compact fans have been asking for years for built-in reverb and basic tone shaping, but no luck (they gave in on the newer, smaller S1.)
Last of all, the Boss VE-8 pedal is a great companion to the Compact, with a variety of effects including chorus, an "acoustic resonance" feature that takes out much of the quackiness of piezo pickups, reverb, a vocal harmonizer, a vocal "enhance" effect I don't use, and a basic looper. You can also set low, mid and high EQ for both voice and guitar, but this requires some second-level fiddling with the controls that normal human beings won't be able to manage live. It can also run on batteries, certainly enough for a gig. Good luck, hope the gigs are going great.
Thanks so much for your comments! I seem to have hit on something here! I am still searching for the perfect solution - more videos to follow!
The gigs are going well thanks!
Your humility is super impressive! Thank you for this review.
Well thank you very much! That comment made my day!
Great review. I have been looking at a range of self contained PAs for my solo act. I like the fact that you admitted that you chose to "splurge." Performers need to give themselves permission to invest in equipment a couple of levels higher than they think will do. It's amazing how it helps with confidence and competence. Thanks also for your detailed descriptions of the pubs and crowd size - that's a very practical way of describing its power. I'm writing this in March 2022. Getting ready to get out there and perform once again, and I will be buying a Bose L1 thanks to your great review (and a couple of other peoples' reviews too). Cheers!
I've been using the L1 Compact for about 10 years. I dropped down from the full-sized L1 system, and found that the compact system was actually all that I needed. I have 2 systems, and I've actually used them both in an L-shaped room - they worked great. I use a DigiTech pedal for reverb and harmony, and the whole system sounds amazing; the pedal actually adds quite a bit of volume to the vocal channel, as well. All in all, I'm VERY pleased with the system - especially the portability. 28 pounds of dynamite!
So ur using 2 x L1 systems simultaneously old mate???
@@john-di1mz Only in large venues.
Thanks, great review.
I've never played a gig without a mixer, ive always attached a small mixer for the instant fader control, extra input channels, effects etc.
Glad it was helpful!
Tremendous review. I’m sold, my man.
Great review and such amazing bit of kit for its size. As a sound engineer myself for my small to medium setup I run Allen and heath qu24 bose 802s and 502b subs with qsc amps not forgetting the bose controller and it sounds brilliant bose are just the masters of getting big sound out of small units but I think the tone match is a must
Hi Lewis, nice upfront review. I use a Bose L1 model 2 system - great pa, the Bose compact is designed for the small pub/room acoustic gig realistically, still a great system though. I have the Tonematch with my system, these are an absolute must if you’re using a Bose PA, the tonal range you can achieve is second to none, I know - I use one. You can buy the Tonematch 1 (earlier version) for a little as £250.00 new (old stock in some stores), this has guitar effects, mic tone shaping and great reverbs. You could dump your pedal board and just use the Tonematch - problem solved! Might be worth mentioning I use a TC Helicon Play GTX which does all the guitar, vocal harmonies, and effects - these can be purchased used for around £150.00. I know you may be a little disappointed with the lack of effects on Bose, but rest assured you won’t get better sound reproduction and coverage than a Bose- fact! I have gigged as a solo musician with mine for years, wouldn’t change it for the anything else......go on spend just a little bit more money and buy the icing on the cake - the Tonematch. Cheers,John.
Hi John, thanks for your comment! Yeah, the more I’ve researched, the more the tonematch seems inevitable! I just don’t understand why Bose couldn’t have just put a reverb on board!
The gigs continue to stack up and so I will be looking to make a change soon. May even review the new gear as and when I get it so watch this space!
Thanks again for your tips, very much appreciated!
@@lewisforemanmusic I'm looking to replace a big, heavy traditional PA with something like this Bose unit (actually 2 of them). Our band has 5 pieces, with one of the players using keys, mandolin, banjo, harmonica, accordion (yes) and voice. I have to submix her on a Alesis unit and put her into one of the channels on the main mixer (Soundcraft 12-channel). So, with all this processing going on before even reaching the L1, will this be a suitable use? You referenced briefly a review that mentioned using the L1 with mixers which sounded less than enthusiastic. Do know where I might find that? Very lucid review that talks about things that real-world musicians care about. Good job.
@@robkeast9091 Hi Rob, thanks for your comments, sounds like my kind of band! I have tried to find the review for you but have been unsuccessful so far. It was backed up by a representative from a very well known online retailer. Basically, without the dedicated Bose mixer, I have been told that it doesn't sound 'as good' but will still deliver. It might be worth heading to a shop with a few options, trying them out and getting some further advice. It will also give you an overview as to whether this is loud enough for your needs etc.
Thanks for your kind words, I am trying to help working musicians with their gear choices as its a minefield out there! Do let me know if there is anything you'd like to see reviewed.
I wasn't impressed with the tone match at all, and found a basic Yamaha mixer to sound much better.
But to each their own.
@@robkeast9091 the Bose system is much heavier than you might imagine. I ended up exchanging mine for a compact.
You can literally buy 3 compacts for the same price as an L2 system.
I have always used a small Mackie mixer with this unit. It sounds amazing. (Have considered the ToneMatch...maybe some day). I've purchased a TC Helicon to try, as I can have it on the mic stand, but haven't had much time to mess with it. I use the Compact for about 90% of my gigs. I have also added in a few other performers through the mixer occasionally using just this unit and the Bose has handled it all really well. Dependable and great sound. Just get a small inexpensive mixer for effects and some EQ and you're good to go.
Excellent...Thankyou!!!
Thank you so much for this review!
I can recommend the TC Helion pedals. Just bought the R1 and T1.
thanks, i'll have a look
Great review. Very helpful as I’m considering buying one s/h. Many thanks.
Great and truly honest review!! Thank you, you are great! Very good playing and singing too (I checked some of your videos after this one).
Thanks Andreas! Very kind words. Thanks for checking out my other videos. More on the way soon!
Excellent review! I appreciate your humility!
Thanks George! Much appreciated
Great review pal. I’m a karaoke DJ and took all you said on board. I bought 2 of these speakers as I have work lined up for larger venues. They are amazing. The karaoke singers love them and like you say the sound out of them are fantastic. Cheers for your review as it’s helped me decide. Cheers. Ged. 👍🎤👍🎤
Hey Gerard, thanks for your comment! I'm glad I was able to help you in your decisions! All the best!
Lewis Foreman thanks Lewis. Hope your system is working well. If your ever in Manchester let me know and if I’m not working myself I will come see you.
Great review, Have you tried a mixer into it , if so how did you get on? Be interesting to see your r3view on the T C Helycon play acoustic
Very helpful review. Thank you.
hi, Lewis, thanks for nice video! I aggree with you:) Well,I am solo performer like you and using same Bose L1, Voice Live Touch 2 and run them with a very small mixer (soundcraft s.pad 8fx).I Ve got a great sound,my own sound. But you ll have always questions about your guitar sound.Because as long as we line in our guitars into any pedal there happens some new factors,signal is changing,having efx of pedal or change of the natural guitar signal into a plastic feeling
Hi there! Thanks for your comment. I know exactly what you mean by the 'plastic' feeling and i think thats always an acoustic musician's goal! avoid the plastic at all costs!
Hi Lewis, do you still use the Bose L1 compact and what are you using with it now? I have one and use the newest Soundcraft Mixer which has as 1 of the options a karaoke button(reverb and compression). I only turn it on just enough to give the effect. Through research and talking to music store pros, I do not hook my mixer into the xlr of the PA, I connect to the 1/4 “. I believe that is how it shows in the manual as well. Just recently I bought a 2nd hand Sony Subwoofer(same watts actually-130) delivers that low end that is missing. I have in the past paired it with the Costco PA speaker...sweet. One more thing and probably the best improvement-not using the industry standard sm58 mic! Using the Sennheiser 935.
Thank you, answered a few questions there. Love the pro's AND the hidden con's of a piece of kit in a real life setting.
Thanks for your comments Damien, glad it helped you out!
Great review, very well presented and very helpful. Any chance of a new update now you are another 6 months on. Did you get a vocal effects pedal or the Bose tone match?
Dude thank you for this! I do acoustic gigs and sing as well, and my wife also sings with me for some songs, so I’d need to upgrade to the one with the Bose mixer. But I’m tired of all of the set-up with my current system…huge speakers, stands, etc
No worries man, glad its helping people!
One of the very very best reviews of in fact anything lve ever seen. Exactly what a musician needs to hear....bare bones...honest, no bullshit or sugar coated crap....straight to the jugular....well done old mate!!! Been toying with the idea of getting one of these for a while now....
finger on trigger....just wondering if 2 complete L1 systems would be over the top or not?? I like lots of sound ( yes volume too)...l play Stratocasters...Shadows...Surf...Blues.. Rock n Roll....anyone out there using 2 of these units....?? Would love the feedback!! Thankyou in advance 👍😊🙏
Hi John, thank you so much for your kind message. I get sick of people not speaking the truth about equipment and then finding the faults myself, hence the 'honest review' title.
I would say this is a great unit for your needs. Maybe try one and see how you get on. Personally, I think one will be great for you. Thanks again for taking the time out to leave a message!
Lewis in real life l'm a Health and Safety Advisor so SPEAKING UP is my forte 🤣👍👍🙏🙏
Great review ! Thank you for sharing for feelings on that PA which I'm thinking of bying it. I sing live with music recordings and I was wondering about the mids eq. Are they quite present ? Thanks again
I use the tone print unit with my compact and it’s amazing. Looper ,guitar , drum pedal vocals
Thanks Bruce, i've heard nothing but good things about the Tonematch mixer!
That mice you are speaking into sounds great what is that setup>? looks like a rode setup , model please.. great review.
Hi Lewis really good review, I too have just invested in 2 of these L1 compacts but I use a Allen & Heath mixer and a TC Helicon VoiceLive Play. But I play guitar and sing to backing tracks
and also sometimes play with a keyboard player, but just like you I have been hearing things on my backing tracks and Fender Strat that I never heard on my conventional powered speakers
as good as they were, and it really inspires you doesn't it. Anyway well done Lewis :)
GRAY TAYLOR thanks so much Gray! It’s a fantastic piece of equipment, just need to sort that vocal sound out! Hope to be doing more reviews so like and subscribe if you’re interested!
@@lewisforemanmusic the Play is amazing just a touch of reverb/delay/and double, I always get great coms on my vocals. I live in Christchurch Dorset
how about you?
By the way you were right about the bass its really clean and although my old QSCs 12s were really deeep sounding they seem to cover up some of the
important frequencies, and I think thats why I can now hear lots more instruments from my backing tracks that I didn't hear before.
It really does project well doesnt it?! I'm based in Folkestone in the south east. I do like Dorset, bought my first strat there!
Great review and entertainingly presented, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the honest review. Very informative and helpful.
Thanks!
All the demos i have aeen are of acoustic guitar. Would it be suitable in your opinion for a duo with two electric guitars with full backing tracks?
thanks for a great review Lewis - must admit I am very tempted ....
Thanks for the comment Hookey! Did you go for one in the end?
@@lewisforemanmusic Hi Buddy - yes I ended up with two so my PA is now stereo. Wow so impressed with this system. The main reason I wanted one was because we travel in a caravan and you have to be very careful with weight. This PA fits the bill and also sounds amazing, Thanks again for your review - it set me on the right track.
The Original Bose L1 System was released for sale in the year 2006 and the 4 Channel Tone-match was released 4 months later after the initial release of the L1
Top trivia!
Hi, Great review. Could you also review the Bose S1 Pro.Thanks
Guys, You can use any 4+ mixer on it...
You sure can!
I just bought one and I agree with you views. L1c was designed about 10 years ago and I think its high time they update this thing (with at least reverb and EQ for both channels). I also bought a Bose S1 and that sounds so much better with the added reverb. T4 + power is almost $700 so I will be returning the L1c.
Hi Surya, thanks for your comment, nice to hear other opinions!
Great Review thanks. Thinking of investing in one found this VERY helpful; especially re the need for the mixer
Thanks Alan, really glad it helped you!
Lewis...
Thanks for the review! I play similar venues and I have gigged with my Marshal as50d as well. I opted for the QSC 8.2s. I have a zed 10 mixer that I’ve used for years. However, in a loud room I use my marshal for a monitor. I’m curious, have you tried using your Marshal to get the vocal fx you desire, then di out to the Bose? Did they play nice together?
Beautiful review
Great review!!
Did you every get a mixer or extra pedal. ?
I got a the Bose mixer as an extra and the biggest advantage is now I have all different memories scenes set for the different gigs I play. Which makes setting up the sound and inputs plug and play for open mic nights, duos or small band gigs too.
As you said it’s an investment that I made and haven’t looked back.
I am still looking for the right match! tried out a couple of pedals for the vocals and haven't been blown away yet! I shall have to make a follow-up video after this one has gone so well! thanks for taking the time to comment!
Hey man, great and honest review! Just wanted to point out that while, as you mentioned, the bose t1 tonematch mixer is 4 channels, 3 of those are mono and 1 is stereo. Which means that you can, as you talked about, have ur guitar AND mic plugged in, have a keyboard player sit in (plugged in in stereo, beautiful) and still have one channel to spare. The t1 also has the tonematch function which is supposed to make mixing a lot easier as it has eq presets for a bunch of instruments and microphones. Really a pretty unique device that I recommend you look into. Also, another product to look into is the yamaha stagepas 1k which has built in reverb. Also, I'm not getting paid to say this ha :)
Thanks for sharing that! I was wondering about the specifics of the Tonematch mixer mentioned in this vid.
Behringer 1202fx mixer and its sorted. Still the best value for money on the market
Nice to hear. I want to buy one and have already the TC Helicon. Did you already used it with the TC Helicon Accoustic?
Agreed. Not including a simple reverb knob for each channel adds to the cost, carry and and set-up time. Deal breaker for me. Too bad.
Thank you so much for your video, very helpful! I would love to have your opinion, like you, I play guitar and sing and was looking for a PA system. Like you, my voice needs a little boost :-) have you seen the new JBL EON one compact? Wondering if it would be a good choice since you have the app for effects. Or the BOSE S1 since they added a reverb but wondering if it would be loud enough... thanks again
Hey, i'm really glad my video helped!
The Bose s1 is a great piece of kit but only aimed towards 50 people in the audience so it really depends on your specific needs. I'm not familiar with the JBL Eon one, I would say find your nearest dealer and go and try as many out as possible (when theyre able to open of course!). Thanks again for your comment and I hope you like the channel!
Excellent presentation and review from having actual experience with the L1 compact. So many column array system demos are from a DJ’s experience and point of view. That being said, if you’re gigging enough to justify the expence- the tonematch 4 or 8 are outstanding. Hopefully you might find one on the used market for a decent price since they are a bit expensive as new.
During pandemic there is lots of used gear being unloaded on the used market. Love your review.
Thanks so much for your kind words and taking the time to respond! Really appreciated!
Get the Tunematch from Bose that is paired with the Bose. The best with the Best, it is worth the investment! Start with the small unit see if you like it and you can always upgrade! I have 2 L1 speakers and they are fantastic...
Thanks for leaving a comment. When the gigs pick back up I'll have a look for sure
awesome review. i’m also looking into this unit but i’ve always altered eq and used reverb on my vocals and i just can’t see myself signing without it. i would definitely need to buy more kit to gig with this unit. you should post a follow up video when you do buy the mixer or something else to go with it. that would be super helpful! cheers
Hi J Akao, thanks for your comments! I will absolutely be uploading a follow up video if and when i get a mixer!
Hey Lewis, thanks for the great review. I'm just wondering on monitoring/hearing yourself, specially for the larger rooms - I guess it seems a long way from a couple of outward-facing speakers and a little monitor wedge. Could you comment on placing the 'pole' and any issues with hearing yourself vs. getting best position for the crowd; any feedback issues? Cheers. Let me know when you're playing Swindon too!!!
Hi Jol,
My apologies for the delay in getting back to you! For the first few gigs, i set this up parallel to myself and to the left. With the directional speakers, this works well to hear yourself whilst you're playing. I have experimented with different positions and so far, thats the best all round option and I don't see the need for monitors. I have also played venues with this directly behind me (usually a PA nono for feedback reasons). I have never experienced feedback with this unit and I don't understand how that is possible. The only issue with it directly behind is playing at high volume damaging your ears. still sounds great though!
Hope that helps, feel free to ask me anything else! Also, thanks for the facebook like!
Adding a effect to the unit is OK bit be careful not to over eq certainly in this case less is more.
Thanks for the review...What did you end up with for your voice affects!
Hi Ricky, still working on finding the best combo! I'll be sure t update everyone when ive found what im looking for!
Thanks for the review. Question: how do you connect the TC Helicon to the Bose?
probably with a cable. smh
You will probably be very happy with the TC helicon unit for vocals. Or if you want a small digital mixer something like the Midas MR 16. Otherwise, when you decide you’ve outgrown this Bose L1 compact, check out the JBL PRX one. Multiple input channels, built-in effects and EQ. And it fills a much bigger space than this Bose unit.
You *need* the Mackie FX8v2 Pro 8 Channel
I'm thinking of one off these.. a little more expensive here in the states. the good thing,,, I don't sing, just acoustic guitar and related instruments. I have a fisherman aural spectra I would be using also.. good to know the sound quality is Bose
Hi David, did you end up getting one of these in the end? Thanks for the comment
Lewis Foreman Guitar yes I did. I’ve not used it a lot since I haven’t had acoustic for a while. But I have used it for a couple presentations. It sounds awesome.
Great video!! I’m looking at getting a more portable PA system for gigs and busking - preferably one that is battery powered! Is the Bose L1 battery powered too? Many thanks 😊
Unfortunately not. It's quite a power consuming piece of kit. The market has yet to produce a really good battery powered unit
I love mine! Great review!
Thanks Toril!
Thanks for this review, even though I'm two and a half years late to the party. I'm interested in something like this because, after decades of gigging with conventional PAs, I'm wanting to "scale down"....both in gear and, to some extent, volume. (loudness) I'm putting together a new ensemble, with guitar, electric bass, small drum kit, and sax. There will be at least two or three of us singing, (plus sax) Drums will NOT be mic'd, and guitar and bass will each have their own small amps. So the question is, as we did fifty years ago, is this adequate as a primarily VOCAL PA system? Any suggestions welcome.....thanks.
Thanks for checking it out! In my opinion, its a fantastic all round PA system and can pack a punch volume wise, you would just need a decent mixer to level everything out the way you wanted. Also bare in mind that you might want to put two of these together for the sort of size band you're talking about, just to have the options of getting it loud enough so the drums feel 'in the mix'. Hope that helps!
This is an excellent review and I’m in the same position. I currently play small coffee shops and open mic nights through a Boss Acoustic Singer Pro. I’ve started playing larger venues probably up to 100 people and more pubs/clubs. Will these systems do for pub gigs where people are more likely to be a bit louder. I usually play country pubs etc ?
Hi Mick, this is perfect for rowdy pubs and clubs. The extension speaker means it's over 6ft high which is great for filling the busiest of small rooms! Thanks for the comment
@@lewisforemanmusic Just curious if you ended up getting the play acoustic to go with this ?
I play small acoustic gigs too and also use the L1 compact. I’ve had the same feeling about the lack of voice effects. I too prefer a little “sugar” on my voice so I currently run the input through another small amp with effects but I’m considering buying the Tonematch. The reviews on it are pretty great! I’m curious about your foot pedals. I’ve never used them but often wonder if I’m missing something. I play classic rock and country music. What type of pedals do you use and why?
Hi and thanks for your comment!
Tonematch would certainly eliminate the need for the additional amp you use - lots of great features on there.
With regards to pedals, this is ever changing but, for the most part, a tuner, reverb, boost and looper are essential for me. I will be making a video about my pedal board asap so keep an eye out for that!
Thanks again for reaching out.
Nice review, I own this and the Bigger L1, the only thing I would say in defence of this particular unit is that one compact is just enough for 2 live inputs ie guitar and vox and backing track, as soon as you start adding other instruments "musician" especially keyboards it starts to bum out. Used as intended for a solo performer I don't think a faster, smaller better sounding system exists imho.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for your comment. i agree, 2 inputs doesnt cater for many in a live setting which kind of forces your hand to buy the mixer unit that goes with it! I bought it because its all the inputs i need in a live setting and it serves me pretty well.
@@lewisforemanmusic Hi Lewis,
Thanks for the reply, what I really meant to put across in my comment was that the L1 compact just doesn't really have that much headroom for more than two instruments performing at the same time , even if you connect a T1, granted it does give more channels but the speaker can't handle it very well at large volumes, as it was really designed as personal PA system as Bose intended for one L1 per user.
This post is a great example of youtubes 'Dislikes..
Whats there Not to like ? This was a Great review ! Therefore 'Explain yourself why you don't like it.. thats why we have a comment section.
- sigh -
DO try the TC Play Acoustic, it's just perfect for what you do
Hi Jim, purchased! thanks!
excellent review
Thanks man!
Great review! Thank you. Thinking about getting back into solo gigging and love the idea of this system for all the obvious reasons.... but also because it seems like it would sound great for small restaurant bars. Love the covers too! Keep it up and consider checking out my covers! 😎 👏🏼
Thank you!
Thank you for the review. I am curious why you would expect more than 2 inputs or onboard effects? This is basically a powered speaker. No powered speakers have them
Thanks for your comments. Firstly, no problem with the 2 inputs, I was just making people aware of that's all you get and secondly I was pointing out that if it did have on board reverb then this would be a huge plus point above competitors. As this is predominantly aimed at musicians, this little touch would have been quite the bonus!
Lewis Foreman I’m a vocalist as much as I am a guitarist and I spend money on a microphone and a mixer as part of my kit the way that guitarists spend on pedals. In fact my Yamaha mixer is the same price as a voodoo pedal power that everyone seems to have.
Add a TC Helicon Harmony singer 2..and you'll be grand ( Harmonies...reverb... "combines EQ (equalization) with compression, de-esser and gate to automatically control the timbre and shape of your sound")
Thanks for the advice
Nice brother
Thanks man!
You would love the EAE amps
Wondering how this would work as an ad-on to my AER acoustic amp. My amp has great sound but doesn't give the dispersion that this gets. And, yes, from what I know of this system I agree 100%. Why couldn't they have put a basic digital reverb in there? I'm sure they would clean up with that combination. Thanks for a great review.
Hi Steven, thanks for your comment. I think using this along the aer would be a great combo. You could potentially use your Aer as your monitor and the bose as your front of house. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!
@@lewisforemanmusic😅
Hi Lewis! Thanks for the video! I’m searching high and low to figure out how to use my Shure Beta 58a with my L1 but am lost. I have a Behringer Xenyz 1202 mixer but it’s been a long time since I’ve used my rig and I can’t figure it out. Oh please, can you help me? Thank you so much!
Christene! I'm so sorry, i have only just seen this for some reason!
The mic should go into the mixer and then you will need to connect the output of the mixer to one of the channels on your L1. You will just need either an xlr cable or jack to jack (guitar) cable and it should be as simple as that. Does that help at all? thanks so much for checking the video out!
Question: People keep telling me the L1 compact and an S1 Pro are the ideal combination... but having just seen that it includes tops i'm confused by that, any idea what they mean? Would they mean just the sub and an S1 Pro? thanks
Hi Scott, ive not heard of that combo myself but this could be for a lot of reasons. Perhaps using the S1 pro a a monitor speaker or to give a stereo setup in bigger venues? Haven't tried this myself!
Thanks for your comment and supporting the channel
Do you have a live performance using BOse LI compact system ?
Hi, I don't at the moment but this may be a video I make in the future
Purchase the ToneMatch 4. You wont be sorry.
TC helicon mic mechanic 2 for vocals it's battery powered too 👍
Thanks, it seems to be coming up a lot!
Is there no music in your speaker review!
Does it have a direct out so you can send it to a house PA?
Why not plug a non powered mixer to it??
Simple fix............buy a mixer....the Bose T4 and 8 are wonderful. Yes the compact works well as a stand alone unit. But having a mixer with effects really opens the unit up big time. Either the Bose T4 0r 8 mixer or a Mackie with effects works great.
I had the tone match mixer from bose and tried it on my bose speakers. Wasn't impressed at all! Sold it, and went back to the old reliable Yamaha mixer which I like way better....and cheaper as well.
Just bought mine! Do you recommend volume number per venue capacity?
Most of my gigs (50-60 capacity clubs) I will have both channels set half way volume wise. Fills the room perfectly.
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Hi Lewis, thanks for your helpful review. I can recommend the TC Helicon Perform.V for vocal effects - it is small and clips onto the mic stand for easy control and muting of effects when talking. I've done a review here:
ua-cam.com/video/7ucef8nsMhQ/v-deo.html
Feel free to check out my microphone reviews and singing stuff.
All the best,
Anton
TC Helicons are awesome! It has Reverb
They are! just need to get hold of one! Thanks for taking the time to comment!
Can you connect monitor?
Get the Behringer X Air XR12 Digital Mixer
I shall look into it, thanks!
That's the mixer I have and we used on Saturday :)
You should have spent the extra $ and got the middle tier system. It has 4 outputs , has the tone match system, and fuller sound.. I have mine set up to a home studio with a Midi Keyboard and it sounds amazing.. Tons of bass for such a compact piece of equipment..
Thanks for your comment. I did look ever-so briefly at the middle tier system but went against it for convenience. Perhaps you're right! These Bose units do pack a punch in the bass department! Thanks again!
Middle tier system? Can u explain this system? Thank you!
What about using a beat buddy through this ?
Sure man, that would work well. I think the sub unit at the bottom would punch out a good bass for the drum machine.
I found that when I got 2/3rds volume it started fuzz
Hi Steve, i've not had that issue myself - maybe contact Bose? Is it still under warranty?