No, Silencers on Guns are NOT Silent
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Picture the scene.. a Secret Agent quietly sneaks through the enemy base. Time is running short. Stealth is his best friend if he is to tip the odds in his favour. To do this, he relies on his trusty suppressed pistol to despatch unsuspecting henchmen one by one. He successfully navigates the base, confronts the villain, and saves the world. This is what the entertainment industry would want us to believe, at least... In the real world, the unfortunate Agent would not have gotten passed the front gate before his 'silencer' sounded the alarm. This is because, despite what we have come to believe, silencers are NOT silent. Join us as we debunk this popular Gun Myth alongside others.
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Thank you for great content. But about the silencers - you did not consider the subsonic ammo with havier bullet with muzzle velocity around 280m/s. Great example is .300blackout, whitch was designed mainly as subsonic round for AR platform. But every round can have subsonic variant, where is no supersonic crack. But some firearms can have issues with cycling mechanism, for example subsonic 5.56nato/.223rem would not work in AR15. Another think is, the sound of shot consist of two parts - explosion or better to say gas expansion on the muzzle and supersonic crack. Silencer eliminates the gas expansion sound. So even if you use supersonic ammo with silencer, your target is not able to identify direction where the shot came from, due the missing gas expansion on the muzzle...espetialy works for rifles. Ofcourse its not like in the movies. On the quite range, even with subsonics you can hear cycling mechanism, bullet flight and bullet impact. But in the noise of battle or main street the sound is lost.
Hey can you please make a video about the Gun truck of vietnam war please and thank you 😢😢
Simple history there is a UA-cam channel stealing your content called “entertainment, and history” and he’s not crediting you
That's why they aren't called silencers. They are called suppressors.
Thank you!!!
Lol, except silencers exist for sub-sonic calibers.
They are called both. Silencer was the term used in the early days. Now we have switched to suppressor.
Just like how everyone confuses clips with magazines
They *were* called silencers back in the early days, specially when it was first invented.
"Dropping a gun very rarely makes it go off"
Sig Sauer: *nervous sweating*
I knew someone'd say it!
@@PigeonofTheFrogs It's a bit of a low hanging fruit, but I had to
Nambu 45:
Dat Taurus pistol that goes off just by shaking it, though...
Taurus, aka "People don't kill people, guns do"
0:34 love the Hitman reference
I recognized that clown disguise as well!
Did you catch the scene from true lives in regards to the gun going off when dropped?
caught me off guard
In german they are called "Schalldämpfer" which could be translated to "sound lowerer". I think it is a more accurate expression than silencer
In the US we often say ‘suppressor’ for that reason.
Germans are always so literal 😂
the literal translation is sound dampener so yes
Could also argue that it silences some of the noise therefore it is still accurate to call it a silencer, PC terms be damned.
As FishKepr said, people with actual firearm knowledge call it a "suppressor" rather than a "silencer", as it only reduces the sound, rather than completely removes it.
A suppressed weapon sounds like an acorn hitting the roof of your car 😅
This comment
Someone's been keeping up😂
More like a former service member screaming “I’M HIT” when he was, in fact, not even shot at…
@@jordanhendrix2619 And rolling twice like he's in Dark Souls...
@@AICWmaybe he just watched too much Chicken Little 😅
I can't believe that CoD 4: Modern Warfare was referenced. THIS is how Ghillie'd Up would've actually played out.
7:47 “Today’s weapons are not so trigger sensitive.”
Sig 320 has entered the chat.
I came here to say that
More films
yeah I was just thinking the same thing. several examples.
Bro just pissed off every sig fan boy 😂
@@codythporcupineand siggie sourgoofboyz can saur off! Again, if there are only 20 incidents in the past 10 years, I can chalk it up to negligent people being stoopid. But there are over 100 different discharges now…That’s when I say it’s the gun. I was interested in a P320 but dropped it cause I don’t want to become siggie’s RND’s unwitting accident research participant! I have an M17, but that has a manual safety and I have to continue the linage because I do have a M1911 and the M9…But that’s the only Sig I’ll ever have!
It’s not there to be silent
It’s there to make sure you don’t go deaf
No they are for improving bullet speed, less sound is just a side affect
@@Tathanicwow you must have gotten this from COD. The purpose of a can is to mask the noticeable report of a gun shot
@@Tathanicthe inventor of the silencer/suppressor created it because his father went deaf due to creating the maxim machine gun
you can add sub sonic bullets which quietens it down dramatically
@@grimreaper4811I had no idea his son created the silencer. Silencer being the OG term and on the original patent. Suppressor is more of a "politically correct".
I used to think that suppressor made weapon quiet. But after I learned that, it made more sense.
To be fair, ‘quiet’ is a relative term. If the guy next to you has some ridiculous thunder beast with a muzzle brake and you have an unsuppressed .22, you will probably say yours is quiet.
And some guns are made VERY quiet. A bolt action .22 with a suppressor can be quieter than a pellet rifle. One of my buddies was a Wildlife Control Officer for the Department of Agriculture and he had a little CZ with a 10” barrel and a suppressor about the size of a roll of nickles that was quiet as a Red Ryder. You could hear the firing pin click sometimes, even with the report.
He also had a Ruger M77 in .44 mag that was about 10” and had a good can and it wasn’t much louder than clapping your hands.
Seeing a animated soldier 360 no-scoping from a crane is something i need to see more often in life
Depends, though. *.22lr subsonic!* A suppressor by itself does not make a gun silent, but when combined with just the right gun and the right ammunition, the results can be near identical to Hollywood presentations.
DA Mask is ‘Hollywood quiet’ with subsonics.
@@FishKepr And I think there some airgun configurations that are legit Hollywood silence aswell. Just make sure to aim for critical spots and/or from close enough for a quick enough kill without losing stopping or penetrative power.
don't forget the welrod, one of the quietest guns ever made
Didn't the Sten MKIII with a suppressor match Hollywood logic?
Thank you for adding that, I was about to mention low cal and subsonic ammo but you beat me to it! Haha cheers!
Not the 360 no scope!
Sound of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel
He was hardscoping...
MOM GET THE CAMERA
Timestamp?
It's at the start of the video@@Hauchoi322
And that lady’s and gentlemen is why the popular tv show Mythbusters exists to prove whether things that come out of media are myths or not.
Fun fact: suppressors are a lot more effective if the ammo is subsonic, or slower than the speed of sound.
One notable example is the AS VAL (9x39), which makes more of a ticking noise thanks to its integral suppressed barrel.
.45 ACP is also inherently subsonic with standard loads.
I think it has more to do with subsonic ammo using much less gunpowder than the velocity of the bullet itself. The "sonic boom" of a bullet is comparable to the crack of a .22 (just going from experience and not scientific measurements), so the suppressed gunpowder explosion will still be louder than the sonic boom.
@@GeoffCostanzawell, the exploding gunpowder gasses is also something that breaks the sound barrier and makes sonic boom. So if we have big enough suppressor that can slow down and cool burning gasses before exiting suppressor, we can get rid off one sonic boom. Now we only have to deal with the sonic boom that the bullet is creating and that we can accomplish by lowering the velocity of the bullet itself. Many ways to do this but the usual way is to reload ammunition with less gunpowder. Other way you can do this is porting the barrel like they do with mp5sd or As Val and use integrated suppressor, these guns can use supersonic bullets that comes out as subsonic
@@looguethe mp5sd won't even work correctly if you use subsonic ammo since it was designed to take supersonic ammo and turn it into subsonic ammo while it's going down the barrel the subsonic ammo doesn't have enough energy to cycle the gun.
It will still fire but not cycle.
Aren't subsonic bullets less effective at picking out targets than using an ordinary round? In steath, efficiency is key. Wasting a whole mag on someone is the opposite of that (that is unless you are going for headshots).
0:20 I like how they animated the Sniper into doing a 360 while falling down a crane, and no you won't gain anything out of it other than breaking your bones or dying realistically.
7:24 true lies that was an interesting and slightly comical scene
07:47 Love the hot fuzz reference lol
I could've sworn the SIG P320 was designed to fire upon dropping it
Thanks to video games like 007 Goldeneye, people think guns with suppressors are silenced.
Sound of Silence
John Wick’s pistol duel in a crowded mall(?). Lol
@@caelestigladii hard to forget that - and it actually bugged me lmao - the bystanders would have ran away upon hearing shots
@@caelestigladii That hurt to watch
Pew pew
“A bullet can’t stop the bull moose! TR will give WC the full deuce!” Theodore Roosevelt
Ah, I see another individual of culture. ERB rules.
Never thought I'd see an ERB reference in 2024
Tuco: "But if you miss you had better miss very well. Whoever double-crosses me and leaves me alive, he understands nothing about Tuco. Nothing!"
I know a guy in the army who during a training exercise was shot point blank in the face with a blank round
there was some debris in the barrel so when he pulled the trigger some dirt shrapnel came out.
it made him begin to profusely bleed from his eye and now he is almost completely blind in that eye.
Supressors can actually be very silent like video games. Which can be achieved by using high quality suppressors paired with sub-sonic ammunition
Yeah, at the end of the day, the real answer is just the good ol' *it depends.*
Even with subsonic rounds, it is NOT completely silent; the mechanism is still heard.
It's not fully silent as in the case of semi auto weapons, the mechanism (i.e the bolt and charging handle moving) makes the highest amount of noise.
Gun guys can tell who learned about guns from movies and video games by reading their comments. If you think any suppressed firearm sounds quiet, you either haven't shot a real gun, or you've been playing your video games with subwoofers and the volume on full, right in your ears.
And I'm not sure what "high- quality suppressors" people think exist only in some secret society of assassins. For a simple mechanical device, the best technology will exist on the free market. Fluid mechanics courses aren't withheld to special military- grade engineers, so the public has access to the same suppressor tech as anyone else.
If a suppressor were put on a 22 long rifle, pistol or rifle, it would be significantly more quiet
Not really. You’d also need to use sub sonic ammo and even then it’s still not holly wood quiet. Also you’d have a very short lethal range. Better be a good shot and have lots of rounds.
You guys should make an evolution of German tanks
In DayZ, if you attacked an AK suppressor, you're still very loud. Guys from the other side of town can hear you and likely kill you. Now, it does reduce your sound (unsilenced is about 1000 meters it can be heard) but the best thing suppressors do is block the muzzle flash as well as make it hard to tell where you're getting shot at.
So far the only video game I've played that does it pretty correctly
I never thought simple history would ever animate a dude doing a 360 no scope.
Firing a subsonic load through a good suppressor can be incredibly quiet.
Love the hitman reference.
Actually, a silencer is a suppressor, and it actually suppresses muzzle flash more than sound. In addition to the information you gave about a bullet, knocking a person backwards because of equal, but opposite force, the person shooting the gun, would also get blown backwards if the bullet could knock the person down. Being the guy with the flamethrower on his back in the Pacific theater during World War II was pretty much it was a Death sentence because the Japanese learned to target the guy with the flamethrower.
A silencer and a suppressor are the same thing.
Suppressors just makes more sense but the original patent for it calls it a Silencer and back then these were only known as silencers
As for blanks being lethal, it reminds me of an incident that happened back in 1993. During the final days of filming for the 1994 movie "The Crow," the movie's main actor, Brandon Lee, who was the son of the legendary martial arts master Bruce Lee, was fatally injured when an improperly deactivated blank cartridge was fired from a gun at him during filming.
What happened 3 years ago in the set for the film Rust
@@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401That wasn't a blank round, what was fired from the gun Alec Baldwin was holding was a live round.
I died when i saw the 360 jump off the crane 😂😂
Oh, it’s not a myth, that’s just a misconception. I too was a skeptic of suppressor technology, until I saw it for myself.
The right suppressor can silence the report produced when discharging a firearm.
Generally speaking, a shot is “silenced” when the volume of the report falls below the audible range of the recycling action of the firearm, but it is still possible to suppress the report even more.
It may not be practical for everyday use, it may not be cost-effective for the everyday user, but it is absolutely possible.
The only thing a suppressor cannot silence is the sound of the projectile flying through the air, and while this can be mitigated by using subsonic ammunition, the only way to silence that aspect of the shot, would be to reduce the speed of the projectile to something around the velocity produced by a slingshot, which would defeat the whole purpose of using a firearm to launch the projectile in the first place.
It is true suppressors do not totally silence the round.
But, there are guns like the AS Val which uses subsonic rounds which greatly reduces the volume of rounds as loud as a baby firecracker according to one commenter in another youtube video.
There are also firearms like the MP5SD and the Delisle Carbine that also do this. (In the case of the Delisle, modified .45ACP rounds to do it )
9:03 Nice subtle Tropic Thunder reference there
Platoon?
The timestamp is off. I just thought I'd let you know just in case.
@@praetorian3902 Thank you sir
LMFAO, they combo'd "360 no scope" and "mom get the camruh" in this. What legends.
that soldier with the sniper really did the 360 no scope!
I think it’s funny how this channel has turned into a halfway gun channel lol
5:11 well, once Tuco gets almost screwed by the Blonde for (deliberate) mistake
7:04 sorry Oliver Stone, no need for a second sniper over the hill, Oswald did it all alone
you forgot another: heads don't explode!
5:57 Blonde!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, there are some suppressors that are damn near movie quiet. Best example I can think of the MP5SD. It has a mechanism which slows down the bullets to under the sound barrier, eliminating the supersonic crack. Now, you'll still hear it cycle, but you won't necessarily know it's a gun (which is why it's normally fired semi auto, as opposed to what movies and video games tell us).
I had a single shell shotgun fall out of a camper while I was exiting it and it blew a hole in the ground right next to me. It was knucking futs.
The p320 is considered drop safe however there have been a few reports and lawsuits saying it isn’t. Even a recall was issued by Sig. drop safe tests and done on every pistol nowadays and has been for years.
They included Agent 47 in a clown suit OH GOD.
The myth regarding flamethrowers is also true for how Hollywood portrays vehicles exploding when the gas tank is shot. Also, most explosions don't cause a massive fireball either.
10 points for showing that hilarious scene in True Lies 😂😂😂
You also need sub sonic munitions to go into the weapon also for improved noise suppression.
Regular suppressor takes off the loud crack
Suppressors are actually quiet effective with firearms that are using subsonic ammunition and a closed action, the only audible noises are the firing pin and the bullet striking it's target which, depending on the surface, will be louder then the noise put out by the firearm. Soft live targets would soak up a considerable amount of noise
4:11 you have alerted the horde
9:48 Oh god, that was the incident where Brandon Lee died during the filming of “The Crow” in 1993
28 years later, Alec Baldwin fatality shot at the cinematographer during the set in Rust
Some weapons are more quiet than others.. also, look at the bullets..
Supressed ammo has a lower velocity, just under the sound barrier.
Subsonic ammunition is often used with suppressors to further dampen the noise characteristics.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the content your releasing it really makes my day
Some flamethrowers use self-igniting fuel which will explode when hit by a bullet. But that is not a big deal if you are getting shot in the back anyway
The pillow isn’t supposed to suppress the sound of the gun firing, it’s supposed to prevent blood splatter from covering the shooter.
Subsonic ammo suppressed is pretty quiet
I was gonna say. .22LR sounds like an angry bb gun
@@TheBestPybro Some airguns can be even quieter than that with the right configuration!
The basic mechanism of operation of a weapon silencer is to reduce the velocity of the shot gases that leave the barrel when fired. This reduces the loudness of the sound that is produced by the sudden release of gunpowder combustion energy. Suppressors may contain channels, chambers and components designed to disperse, cool and muffle escaping gases, thereby reducing the sound of the gunshot. It is worth noting that weapon silencers vary depending on weapon type, caliber, application and local regulations. Some suppressors may also be equipped with additional features, such as reducing recoil, eliminating gunshot flash, or reducing return gas patterns. They arent supposted to completely silence the weapon, because it is not possible, there always will be some sound, because its not possible to completely eliminate the gases and the sound of the gunpowder exploding. Their task is to silence the weapon as much as possible, which will work at higher distances, but its pretty much basic knowledge that comes with understanding how guns work.
It’s not the bullet’s shape or size that makes it so a person hit with it doesn’t fly backwards, it’s basic physics. If the bullet had enough force to make a man sized target fly backwards then the person shooting it would also fly backwards due to Newton’s 3rd Law.
I learned a lot from this mythbusting video, thank you Simple History. Kudos to you🎉.
Uuuhm im not sure if youre right about the flametrower one😅 laughs in .50cal incendiary😂😂
suppressors is to make far away enemy confused to where is the sound coming from and its not to silence
I love the not so subtle pro 2ao overtones👍👍
my silencer makes my 9mm no louder then a BB gun.
Definitely love the references in this video. Especially the True Lies and (possibly) Hot Fuzz references lol.
The guy jumped off and said "360 NOSCOPE"
*360 nostalgia for call of duty players in 2009.*
Hey, Simple History, your vids r great!
Depends on the gun. Take a bolt action .300 Blackout with subsonic ammunition and a good 12" suppressor, and its almost silent, but on a semi auto matic AR-15 with the same setup it is quite loud.
True, though "almost silent" is still louder than if you clapped your hands together as hard as you can. It's still very obviously a gun shot to anyone nearby.
The 1911 would be much quieter because it’s subsonic.
Did bro hit the 360?
funny enough the person who made the silencer also made the car muffler
Silencers with subsonic ammo are nearly movie quiet. Yes you hear the bolt moving but there's no crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier.
And guns with built in silencers, like the Welrod, are very much movie quiet
Subsonic like a .45 ACP. Still makes a huge thump. And the bullet is usually still in the victim and the force of the shot has some stopping power VS other rounds. .45 is still King in the world of pistols.
@@ExtantPerson Exactly. They're made to slow down the round before it leaves the barrel ensuring it's subsonic.
@@TheFlutecart yessir
@@Crangaso Not exactly. They slow down the remaining expanding gases, not the speed of the projectile.
3:32
Youre welcome
I love the Hitman level u guys did haha
I love the no-scope animation at the beginning. Truly realistic.
You did not mention sub-sonic rounds + bolt action + suppressor
I wonder what event might have sparked this video? Something nutty I suppose
Man, those videos are absolutely amazing. Could you do a video about the polish MSBS Grot assault rifle ?
In the LOTR the Two Towers movie a knight was blown away with an arrow just as it happens with bullets in most movies.
I have used a flame thrower in the national guard, fighting Forrest fires (creating controlled burns) and I DID NOT KNOW THIS about the tool. I was under the impression that if I was carrying it into battle, a bullet could turn me into a crispy critter. Thank you for the information! (And I would give anything to spend the rest of my life getting paid to "throw flames".lol).
I know you guys are mostly entertaining and historical, but thank you for being truthful about firearms. Many times, this video included, you're helping squash myths and ignorance of firearms.
0:20 that 360 no scope is wild 💀
I'm glad you also put Kill Bill reference there😅
I love how some games actuly make suppressors realistic and enemies can hear you if your close
I was already aware about the truth of all of these myths, but I have to say you communicated all of these very clearly.
0:27 AGENT 47!!!
that 360 no scope joke was pure gold
That was so interesting most of those fact i didn't know about thank simply history and i always come back
You are very much correct on everything. suppressor (many people call them silencers) were never designed to be movie quite and they only get close when you fire a sub sonic 22. caliber. Sub sonic rounds were designed so then they would be much more quite when a suppressor is used with it, most to the point where you don't need ear protection. The only way you would of maybe ignited a flamethrower is if it had gasoline in it but many carried diesel fuel. They only guns that would maybe knock someone off there feet but definity not throw them into the wall would be anti material rifles like the Barret, shotguns fired almost point blank, and then hand guns that fire 500 magnum or 50 ae but that would have to be very close. Blanks are generally used in these movies now adays unlike for the short time where the gun was never fired and special affects were used but one importantthing is that whenever a blank is fire, fire its checked by multiple people to make sure it is a blank and the gun is never pointed right at the person, generally more towards the left but the camera is angled to where that is not seen (sorry to Ale Baldwin and that sad situation).
THE 360 NO SCOPE ANIMATION HAD ME CACKLING
Well this really is an eye opener.
THANK YOU!!!! If you have never used a suppressor aka a “silencer” on a gun I would recommend that you test one out on a 223/5.56 caliber gun. It’s still loud enough that you should wear hearing protection. I can’t believe that suppressors are illegal and the most likely reason is because of their portrayal in movies. To get the supper quiet sound you have to use sub sonic rounds and if you do that well you’re not going to accomplish much with it.
The tribute to the 360 no scope is W
7:00 this one kind of speaks for itself, if anything the shock would be more likely to knock you off you feet, but it’s more like falling on your back than anything regarding rag doll physics
“Dropping a gun won’t set your gun off”
Sig Sauer liked this video
“Modern guns don’t fire when dropped”
*Sig P320 enters the chat*
The biggest advantage to a supressed rifle is eliminating the muzzle flash and it makes it more difficult to determine where the shot is coming from.
You should do a video about The Boxer Rebellion
Man I remember being a teen watching war movies and going " FIGHT BACK. Put a bullet in the pyro unit and start rolling! "
... Then I got my hand covered in third degree burns on every finger. The pain was so severe that it just forced me to my knees and all I could think to do was go " AHHHH! WHY!? " Then lunge up to the nearby sink to wash the molten cream of chicken soup off of my hand.
Now I tooootally understand why you'd immediately lose control.
The _True Lies_ reference was gold.