Kosovo - Math Olympiad Question | A Nice Algebraic Equation

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  • @cschaka1
    @cschaka1 Рік тому +101

    You must be kidding, this can't have been proposed in a Math Olympiad contest. This is 5th grade normal day-to-day stuff. The Math Olympiad questions I remember from Romania in the 90s didn't even look like Maths, that's how hard they were. You didn't even know what that was.

    • @lucsas9277
      @lucsas9277 11 місяців тому +5

      as a fellow romanian i agree tho this stuff is more 7th grade level cuz binomials arent taught till 7th grafe

    • @oficialmundodiverso
      @oficialmundodiverso 8 місяців тому +2

      Que dices esto es imposible

    • @ANIMX_FLAME
      @ANIMX_FLAME 7 місяців тому +1

      Bro quadratics aren't in 5th grade 😂

    • @hive123kbps4
      @hive123kbps4 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ANIMX_FLAMEyes they are
      ..in asia

    • @kartikpalli6311
      @kartikpalli6311 2 дні тому

      This is 4th grade math and doesn't even qualify for O of Olympiad. Ban this channel!

  • @imoyal
    @imoyal Рік тому +34

    1) Combination of any value for X and 0 for y is a solution.
    2) Combination of any value for x and the same value for y is a solution.

  • @pphguimaraes
    @pphguimaraes Рік тому +18

    Using some Basic factorization, we can rewrite this as (x+y)(x-y)=(x-y)^2. This can be further simplified to (x-y)[(x+y)-(x-y)]=0. After some algebra this reduces to y(x-y)=0. This equation has two distinct solutions: y=0 for all x And x=y, for all x,y in Reals

    • @劉志仁-r3l
      @劉志仁-r3l Рік тому +2

      y=0 for all x, [or not and] x=y, for all x,y

  • @scmtuk3662
    @scmtuk3662 Рік тому +23

    These are the actual solutions, according to symbolab.
    {x = y; y ≠ 0} - this means that if y is not 0, then x is equal to y. For example, if y = 25, then x must also be 25.
    {y =x; y = 0} - this means that if y = 0, then x = 0, however, the true answer is that if y = 0, then x can be _anything_
    However, for some reason, there's no such symbol that means "literally everything ever". There are symbols that mean "real numbers", "natural numbers", etc, but there's no single symbol in mathematics that means "x can be anything you want, ever, no exceptions.
    The reason is, if the values are the same, then x² - x² = 0, obviously, and then (x - x)² = 0² = 0
    If however, the value of y = 0, but the value of x is "anything", then x² - 0² = x², and (x - 0)² = x².
    In other words:
    The following solutions will work:
    If x and y are the same value, then it will work.
    If y is 0, but x is any value, then it will work.
    For example:
    Let x = 25, and y = x, thus y = 25
    25² - 25² = 625 - 625 = 0
    (25 - 25)² = 0² = 0
    Now let x = 25, and y = 0
    25² - 0² = 625 - 0 = 625
    (25 - 0)² = 25² = 625

    • @paulcolburn3855
      @paulcolburn3855 Рік тому +2

      correct. y MUST be 0. But x can be anything. She was good in her solution until the last 30 seconds. Stop talking then.

    • @scmtuk3662
      @scmtuk3662 Рік тому +4

      @@paulcolburn3855 Actually, y doesn't need to be 0.
      It can either be 0, or whatever x is.
      I.e y = x or 0, but x = y, only if y =/= 0

    • @paulcolburn3855
      @paulcolburn3855 Рік тому +1

      @@scmtuk3662 I agree

    • @scmtuk3662
      @scmtuk3662 Рік тому +3

      ​@@paulcolburn3855 It just makes sense, even if you don't actually use values for the variables.
      If we let x = y, then:
      x² - y² = x² - x² = 0
      (x - y)² = (x - x)² = 0² = 0
      If however, we let y = 0, and x = x, then:
      x² - y² = x² - 0² = x²
      (x - y)² = (x - 0)² = x²
      The difference between using y = 0, and y = x, is that if y = x, then the solution to both sides is 0, if y = 0, then the solution to both sides is x².

    • @realtorn1do
      @realtorn1do Рік тому

      i did the same

  • @erautome
    @erautome Рік тому +5

    En passant par les produits remarquables, c'est plus facile. Dans le premier terme de l'équation, on doit considérer que X²-y² = (x-y)×(x+y).
    Aprés, on fait tout passer à gauche de l'équation, une mise en évidence de (x-y) etc...

  • @Juice_Wrld_9
    @Juice_Wrld_9 Рік тому +16

    A much simpler method can be applied. Just convert x²-y² to (x+y)(x-y) and decrease (x-y)² to x-y.

    • @neodro4831
      @neodro4831 Рік тому +3

      This is a common mistake because we do not know the conditions on x and y, hence when you are dividing by (x-y) to cancel both sides if x=y you are dividing by zero, which is incorrect. hence this cannot be done and you have the actual solution(S) of y=0 and x=y

    • @rogeraffleck8677
      @rogeraffleck8677 Рік тому +7

      @@neodro4831 This is NOT a mistake. You can see just by looking that x=y is a solution. So then you have to ask yourself if there are any other solutions. So assume x not= y and then you are free to divide by x-y. Like most teachers you are trying to turn something simple into something complicated.

    • @bilalfilali6334
      @bilalfilali6334 11 місяців тому

      ​@@rogeraffleck8677you can't make a decision in math juste by looking

    • @WattSnehp
      @WattSnehp 9 місяців тому

      ​@@rogeraffleck8677 yess. Simple solution.

    • @joon_neel
      @joon_neel 6 місяців тому

      Exactly.....acc to me decreaae x-y from both side, is the easy way to understanding

  • @oussamajaber3512
    @oussamajaber3512 Рік тому +11

    The solution must be {x=y such that y belongs to R}

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 Рік тому +1

      No. 2+2 is not equal to 2-2
      The answer is 0 for both

    • @themaster9041
      @themaster9041 Рік тому

      ​@@Problemsolver434You are wrong.
      For example:
      x = y = 3
      3^2 - 3^2 = (3 - 3)^2
      9 - 9 = 0^2
      0 = 0

    • @Zerusa766
      @Zerusa766 Рік тому

      @@Problemsolver434 2+2? You wrong

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 Рік тому

      ​@hadidmarwan9780 I am not. Can you read at all. I just gave an example of a solution that fits exactly what the commenter said and is obviously wrong. I was proving a point.
      The comment basically implies that all Real numbers are a solution to the problem

    • @suptibhattacharjee9811
      @suptibhattacharjee9811 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Problemsolver434
      Nope.
      x = y , where x belongs to Real numbers is one of the solution. Just put a random real value of x in the equation and you will see that
      x² - x² = 0 (for left side)
      And
      (x - x)² = 0 (for right side)
      So the equation holds true for x = y where x belongs to R.

  • @turtletalks1
    @turtletalks1 Рік тому +18

    Would it not be faster to...
    (x+y) (x-y) = (x-y) (x-y)
    x+y = x-y
    2y=0 so y=0

    • @kee1zhang769
      @kee1zhang769 Рік тому +2

      You are right it is quicker to do it from (x+y) (x-y) = (x-y) (x-y). Obviously if x=y for any x, the equation is true. If x≠y then we can divide both sides by (x-y) to get x+y = x-y and y=0 from your argument, and x can be any number in this case.

    • @turtletalks1
      @turtletalks1 Рік тому +1

      @@kee1zhang769 and I would argue that is the correct answer because plugging back y=0 into the equation, X could = 0, but could equal anything else. So X has an infinite number of possibilities

    • @Fernandez218
      @Fernandez218 Рік тому +1

      this is the way i did it from the thumbnail in my head lol factorization so much easier.

    • @user-hi1kl2ej6x
      @user-hi1kl2ej6x 8 місяців тому

      I thought the same 🤔

    • @bakura9683
      @bakura9683 3 місяці тому

      Neglecting (x-y) on both sides destroys one of the solution which is x=y

  • @samriddhisingh7783
    @samriddhisingh7783 Рік тому +5

    Can you make video for science Olympiad??

  • @Dalesmanable
    @Dalesmanable Рік тому

    I read Maths Olympiad then spent more time looking for a catch than getting the solution that was so easy I did it in my head.

  • @alcionidas649
    @alcionidas649 Рік тому +3

    I really love your videos. Thank you so much!!!

  • @lusalalusala2966
    @lusalalusala2966 6 місяців тому

    Your final answer should be: (x, 0) and (x,x), for any value of x in the domain of the equation.

  • @abhinavmehrauwu
    @abhinavmehrauwu Рік тому +3

    Ma'am but equation with two variables have infinite solutions right?

  • @jim2376
    @jim2376 Рік тому

    By inspection the following work: x = 1 or -1 and y = 0.

  • @piyushpandey2480
    @piyushpandey2480 3 місяці тому

    Very well explained

  • @mauri46100
    @mauri46100 8 місяців тому

    What if y=0 and x may have any value you want?

  • @sauravbisht2019
    @sauravbisht2019 Рік тому +1

    x²-y²=(x-y)²
    (x+y)(x-y)-(x-y)(x-y)=0
    How take (x-y) common then
    (x-y)(x+y-x+y)=0
    (x-y)(2y)=0
    Thus , (x-y)=0 or (2y)=0
    Which means x=y or y=0

  • @davethomson5921
    @davethomson5921 7 місяців тому

    One equation with 2 unknowns has no unique solution. X=0 for all Y, Y=0 for all X, Y=X for all Y and X.

  • @chakrig6080
    @chakrig6080 4 місяці тому

    Do any of you know this pen brand?

  • @ayoubkhlifi4903
    @ayoubkhlifi4903 6 місяців тому

    x^2-y^2=(x-y)^2 imply (x-y)(x+y)=(x-y)^2 for x different from y: imply x+y=x-y imply y=-y imply y=0 ,and replace the y by 0 we will have x^2=x^2,so x has infinite solutions. for x=y: infinite solutions for x and y

  • @sushreesibanimohapatra7405
    @sushreesibanimohapatra7405 9 місяців тому +1

    It is not right right
    The formula is
    x2-y2= (x+y) (x-y)

  • @hmunjam
    @hmunjam 4 місяці тому

    Why not x = y = 1?

  • @ABG__GARMERZZ
    @ABG__GARMERZZ 5 місяців тому

    mam the answer you got x=y know mam we know that y=0 so that we can substitute the value of y in the equation of x so that we get x=0 is that correct mam ?

  • @evgtro8727
    @evgtro8727 Рік тому +2

    The equation contains two variables x and y. Therefore its solution must be given in the form of a pair (x,y). You cannot just say y=0 is a solution.

    • @paulcolburn3855
      @paulcolburn3855 Рік тому

      y must be 0. In order for this equation to work, y must ALWAYS be 0. x can be anything.

    • @evgtro8727
      @evgtro8727 Рік тому

      @@paulcolburn3855 Try to write your statement as an answer in the proper mathematical form.

  • @Psykolord1989
    @Psykolord1989 Рік тому +9

    Before watching:
    x^2 - y^2 = (x+y)(x-y), thus:
    -> x^2-y^2 = (x-y)^2 -> (x+y)(x-y) = (x-y)(x-y)
    PRESUMING that x-y =/= 0, divide by x-y
    -> x+y = x-y
    2y = 0
    y=0
    If y=0 then x^2-y^2 = x^2 - 2xy -y^2 -> x^2 = x^2.
    First set of solutions: y=0, x = any real number.
    SECOND set: Multiply out RHS:
    x^2 - y^2 = x^2 - 2xy + y^2.
    Subtract x^2 and add y^2 on both sides:
    0 = -2xy + 2y^2
    -> 2y^2 - 2xy = 0
    -> 2y(y-x) = 0.
    This actually gets us to our solutions faster, but I'm working this out as I type it, so my mistake.
    This means either 2y = 0, y-x = 0, or both.
    2y=0 -> y=0, x = anything
    y-x =0 -> y = x.
    Our solutions are thus:
    Y=0, X = any real number
    And
    Y=X

  • @URLOCAL_TALHA
    @URLOCAL_TALHA Місяць тому

    I did (x+y)(x-y)=(x-y)(x-y) and divided x-y on both sides and got my answer easily

  • @jmlfa
    @jmlfa Рік тому +2

    Not correct: Y=0 is indeed a solution, but X then can take any value, not just X=Y.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 9 місяців тому

      There are two different solutions. It's true when y = 0, or when y is the same as x.

  • @Mardouck
    @Mardouck Рік тому +1

    Why this questions so easy?

  • @properbeatz
    @properbeatz Рік тому

    x=1, y=0 is anther soln, unless I'm mistaken.

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 9 місяців тому

      That would be covered by y = 0. It is true if y = 0 no matter what x is.

  • @Statistica101
    @Statistica101 Рік тому +2

    It could also be 2y^2 -2xy=0
    2y^2 = 2xy
    Y^2= xy
    Y=x
    y=x=1

    • @amireallythatgrumpy6508
      @amireallythatgrumpy6508 9 місяців тому

      y^2 = xy should be written as y^2 - xy = 0 and factored to y(y-x) = 0. You lost the y=0 solution.

  • @ilovee271
    @ilovee271 4 місяці тому

    x²-y²=(x-y)²
    (x-y)(x+y)=(x-y)(x-y)
    If (x-y) is not 0 then
    x+y=x-y
    2y=0
    y=0
    If x-y is 0 then
    x=y
    Did it in my head in ten seconds...

  • @jesuspuhwillreturn
    @jesuspuhwillreturn Рік тому

    What really used in life . I mean real time where applicable?

  • @edumathhub
    @edumathhub Рік тому

    Cool video

  • @sudhakaranpillai9623
    @sudhakaranpillai9623 Рік тому +1

    (x+y)(x-y)=(x-y)(x-y)
    (x+y)=(x-y)
    x=0,y=0 and x=any real number

  • @Call_ZZ
    @Call_ZZ 7 місяців тому

    very easy but good practice i guess

  • @ashokkukalekar1214
    @ashokkukalekar1214 6 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @zakariazaki7513
    @zakariazaki7513 Рік тому

    Thanks for video keep going 🤠 greeting from Morocco

  • @economics01
    @economics01 Рік тому

    thank you so much

  • @MabelGyamfi-v9g
    @MabelGyamfi-v9g 7 місяців тому

    I think this a basic math for binomial is too easy

  • @rahulp9352
    @rahulp9352 2 місяці тому

    Find f(s) where f(s)=1+1/2^s+1/3^s+.....=0

  • @gatorpuppy
    @gatorpuppy 10 місяців тому

    infinite solutions 🤯🤯🤯 as long as x = y

  • @economics01
    @economics01 Рік тому

    thanks

  • @नेाटटिवदिललीआळेधीप्रग

    Ques. find value of x and y.
    ans. after solving,
    y = 0 ... i
    x = y ... ii
    from i and ii, we get,
    x = y = 0
    so, x = 0 and y = 0 ... final answer.

  • @lawrenceliebman9079
    @lawrenceliebman9079 Рік тому

    y = 1 also works

    • @pawelskiba5169
      @pawelskiba5169 Рік тому

      x=2, y=1
      4-1 (2-1)^2

    • @scmtuk3662
      @scmtuk3662 Рік тому

      There's no real way to write the correct solution in symbols, so I'm going to describe it in words.
      The value of x can be anything you want it to be.
      And, the value of y can either be the same value of x, _OR_ 0.
      If we let y = 0,
      x² - 0² = (x - 0)²
      x² = x²
      However, if we let y = x, then:
      x² - x² = (x - x)²
      0 = 0²
      0 = 0

    • @amirah23
      @amirah23 Рік тому

      @@scmtuk3662so y is dependant on x’s value, but not vice versa?

    • @scmtuk3662
      @scmtuk3662 Рік тому

      ​@@amirah23 Basically yes.
      x can be anything you want.
      But y must be either the same value of x, or 0.

  • @user-hi1kl2ej6x
    @user-hi1kl2ej6x 8 місяців тому

    (x-y)×(x+y)=(x-y)×(x-y)
    x+y=x-y
    2y=0
    y=0
    x= infinite solutions

  • @soheilabarahimi-sw3bj
    @soheilabarahimi-sw3bj Рік тому

    X=1. Y=1

  • @pawelskiba5169
    @pawelskiba5169 Рік тому +1

    x^2 - y^2 = (x-y)^2
    (x-y)(x+y) = (x-y)(x-y) | (x-y) => x y first solution
    x+y = x -y | -x
    y= -y => y =0 second solution
    check y=0
    x^2 = x^2
    check x=y
    x^2 - x^2 = 0^2
    0=0

  • @ijeomachigozieejefobiri9911

    Think about a much simpler and faster method to teach us later

  • @lifeatph
    @lifeatph Рік тому

    I'm sorry but I don't understand it. Make it simple to understand..... it's more complicated dear ....too vague

  • @mariakos756
    @mariakos756 5 місяців тому

    1:31 or , not and

  • @enes3573
    @enes3573 Рік тому +1

    Bu soru Türkler için çok basit.
    This question is very simple for Turks.

  • @vijayanmaster-x3r
    @vijayanmaster-x3r Рік тому

    Nice

  • @AASHUKUMAR-bo6si
    @AASHUKUMAR-bo6si 3 місяці тому

    1by 2 is answer 😅

  • @mathcem138
    @mathcem138 Рік тому +1

    No what is this
    X=y
    Any value

  • @saurabhgarg9935
    @saurabhgarg9935 3 місяці тому

    This is a very simple question. Can't be an Olympiad question 😅

  • @chandanmeher2897
    @chandanmeher2897 3 місяці тому

    This equation makes no sense

  • @안녕하세요-b6w9t
    @안녕하세요-b6w9t Рік тому

    Too easy for Korean

  • @VijayaRamya-k9t
    @VijayaRamya-k9t 3 місяці тому

    X^2-y^2=(X-y)^2
    (X+y)(X-y)=(X-y)(X-y)
    X+y=x-y
    2y=0
    y=0 (1)
    X^2-y^2=(X-y)^2
    X^2-y^2=X^2+y^2-2xy
    2xy=2y^2
    X=y (2)
    From (1)&(2)
    X=y=0

  • @劉志仁-r3l
    @劉志仁-r3l Рік тому

    Shame on you. That wrong. The answer is y=0 or y=x

  • @aamirahmed898
    @aamirahmed898 11 місяців тому

    Not good enough

  • @oksanalysenko671
    @oksanalysenko671 4 місяці тому

    Жах.Не має відповіді і якщо взялися щось пояснювати то не дуоіть людям голову,а пояснюйте до кінця правильно ,а не просто коментуєте розв'язання ,як для сліпих.

  • @harshakalikiri6587
    @harshakalikiri6587 Рік тому

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @djhumantorch
    @djhumantorch Рік тому +6

    Kosovo 😀😀😀😀 Serbia, you mean

    • @l_h_2
      @l_h_2 9 місяців тому +2

      She means Albania🇽🇰🇦🇱

    • @djhumantorch
      @djhumantorch 9 місяців тому

      @@l_h_2 In your sweetest dreams, pal, Kosovo will be free once more

    • @fsponj
      @fsponj 6 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@djhumantorch Kosovars & Bosnians were oppressed enough by Serbians

  • @noanmee
    @noanmee 11 місяців тому

    Is this Olympiad for dumbest kids?
    if x² - y² = x² - 2xy + y², so -2xy = 0.
    So => x = 0 or y = 0

  • @Dosadniste2000
    @Dosadniste2000 Рік тому +2

    Kosovo is Serbia, thank you.

  • @juancarlosvergaramartinez8234

    This demo is wrong, error

  • @alexandermiller526
    @alexandermiller526 Місяць тому +1

    Kosovo - this Serbia.