When you're going to update your Firmware and the visi remote application to have more features, maybe a rta analyzer would be great, you should also be able to edit the parameters of the effects direct of the ipad such as the delay tap tempo. It would also be great if it wasn't exclusive to ipad but to Any Device like android or windows, as mackie and presonus have done, I mean, for a mixer that is not cheap the features of your application are very limited compared to the other brands?
I hope they eventually release this app onto other platforms besides iOS. I myself like to use a Windows Surface and Laptop at my FOH. Shame it's the only software in my setup that won't work on them.
I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it as “rooter” as long as I’ve been involved in IT and audio. Not sure if I can sleep at night after hearing this. Ha
When you do port forwarding...you have to attach that action to an specific IP. But then you are enabling dhcp...which will assign different ip's do devices on network. How will this work?
soundcraft. I am the new soundman at my church, and we use the soundboard you showed us. I sit with my family when the preacher starts, but there are times I need to adjust the volume on his mic through the board. can I do that through my iphone because I do not have a ipad.
My board is used for a musical. I have different settings programmed for each scene and on the board simply scroll the menu and hit next to change scenes. With visi remote i dont see any way to switch scenes, no next button or display for them Anyone know how to access this by the remote, Im sure there is a way.
We struggled with getting the the console to respond to changes made on the remote. This video talks about making sure that port forwarding and UDP is is configured on the router, with no explanation other than refer to you router manual. This Port Forwarding made no sense and caused a lot of delay in getting remote to work. The information that did work was in a short document buried on the Soundcraft website under Products --> Mobile Apps --> Visi Remote --> Downloads "Visi Remote with new firmware"
What is the latest iOS version supported. I'm using iOS 16.x.x and was told currently my console must have a software update to work with this version of iOS. Is that correct. Thanks
When setting up the port forwarding, should you set it to port forward the mixer's IP address? Or the iPad's? I'm assuming the mixer's, as that would allow it to stream the meters to multiple iPads. Also, any advice on setting up multiple consoles? Port forwarding is specific to the device, so if you forward UDP3333 to your first console, how will your second console send meter info on that same port? Is there a way to change the default port it uses, (for instance, to tell your second console to use UDP3334 instead) to be able to set up multiple consoles with working meters? Because if the first console has taken UDP3333, the second console won't be able to use that same port.
Hi soundcraft, I have a little doubt when configuring my router and it is this: When I'm setting the UDP forwarding an application name displays a combo box wich has some options like http, https, fdp,DNS,etc. wich one should I choose??, and my other question is: Do the IP Address created as UDP must be the same of the console? could you explain it more clearly plz?? best regards
+Bruce Zurita We recommend the Netgear router for plug and play. The routers that require a lot of setup are beyond our expertise, but an IT person will have experience with setting up the router to the level you need.
I have a problem, wich is that I already made it connecting the console, but after one hour aproximately, the app freezes and when restarting the app it doesn´t recognizes the console anymore... can u fix it?? i read in some forums that say the same...
Jacob Sarinas the “rooter” (router, lol) is your network. You don’t need internet connection. You just need the router to bridge the gap between the board and your iPad.
MundoTucan is it really this complicated. I’ve seen another video in Spanish so i couldn’t understand 100%. But all she did was connect the ROOTER to the mixer and it showed up on the ipad and typed in a code from the ipad to the mixer to allow it to control it and it just worked. Or is there more to it, like this guy was talking about setting up IP addresses, highQ, and dip numbers or whatever and im like “yeah this is to complex for my brain.
I'm using an SI impact. Does anyone know if I need to be hard lined in for this to work with the remote app? I'm assuming it does not have built in wireless capability I was going to use my phone as a hotspot router but I doubt I can plug Ethernet in.
yes it is, but you need the latest update, and a proper configurable router i have one myself only the most routers suck (i can ping my Si-impact, with a PC in commandline, but the APP doesnt find the console !!!)
I moved a fader named Jeff from fader 4 to fader 3. The console changed it right away, however, the app still says Jeff is on fader 4. How do I change or reorder fader assignments on the remote once I change the order on the console?
@@JackHekler No - Soundcraft hasn't updated this app in about a decade. There have been many requests for updates and feature additions, but Soundcraft never supported beyond the bare minimum. We are moving to Allen & Heath and will never look back.
hello soundcraft i just config soundcraft si expression 3 using ViSi Remote working. but the audio meter not working. it can only remote control from iPad (only fader working)
i configured just the way you explained and but after swtching on the ip adresss on the console in dhcp mode is still 0.0.0.0 and am not able to use it from my ipad mini
Everything worked for me up until it was time to mix on my iPad. I could see signal come into the iPad, but whenever I made adjustments, they weren't executed on the console..
So I was able to connect and see that my iPad was linked to my console but I had no control even tho I could see the live signal. Is that an instance I should reboot?
@@eryijaz4797 I did end up figuring it out. I cannot remember now but I think it had something to do with having the app open BEFORE you even power on or something like that
All of the marketing literature notes that you can use multiple devices to control one console "for example to allow musicians to control their own monitor mixes." Is there a specific setting on the board or the app that would prevent the individual musician devices from making changes to the main FOH or other mixes? I have only connected one device to the si expression 3 board and would like to allow others to connect, but not if there's no way to limit the amount of damage that could be done to anything other than their personal monitor mix. Thanks
ChannelC1 Hi there, On ViSi remote, there is not this lockout feature, however, we are working on a multi-platform monitoring app that you can lock down to certain busses to certain people from the console interface. It's on its way!
In classic fashion, the Si expression instructions just skip a crucial step; when setting port forwarding, how do we set the subnet mask? I can figure it out, but it is annoying that this is just not mentioned.
Soundcraft Mixers Thanks. I ended up assigning random subnet masks until one worked. Every conventional arrangement was deemed "invalid" by my router, and I have no idea why.
The simple answer, is that if your Subnet (your network) begins with 192 (most consumer routers come factory default this way) up to 223, then your Subnet Mask should be 255.255.255.0. Your subnet mask basically sets the range of addresses that your network is able to communicate with. So a subnet of 192.168.1.0 with a mask of 255.255.255.0 means your network device may use addresses from 192.168.1.1-254, while a mask of 255.255.255.128 would limit the pool to 192.168.1.1-126.
Yeah I tried setting it to 255.255.255.0, but the router kept saying that was an invalid mask. I'm not sure if the problem was with the router I'm using, or the console.
too bad it still is for iOS only. When it becomes more accesible, without buying yet another device of "brand X", i'll buy an expression. If other brands can make it multi-platform, why can't Soundcraft?
Hey Sean, from the product team there at Soundcraft! Would it it be too awfully much to ask that you make your app less shite? As in, remove this idiotic paging and turn it into a continuous scrolling? Same for the offline editor. What genius thought it was a great idea to leave it at this awfully unwieldy 1:1 port and call it a day? A PC is not only operated using the mouse, you know? It would have been nice to have some actually useful controls and inputs for levels and values. The fiddling and aiming with the mouse costs so much attention, it's a chore to operate that editor! AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE, modern PCs have big screen! 16 channel strips displayed and not a single more, when you even provide a choice between SiE1, 2, and 3? What a joke.
Well Soundcraft... I think this video needs to be revisited. For one TCP and UDP are completly different protocols in how the operate. Now the Slider changes from the App probably do use TCP and the meters probably use UDP the actual reason behind it has nothing to do with which device is talking to who. Also there is no need to do a port forward on a Router for this because the board and the device are both on the same LAN network and do not need to be accessible from the public internet. After this point I gave up watching any further.
you are definitely right. i believe the presenter just had a mix up. this is what it says in the manual. "Enabling UDP In order to utilise ViSi Remote’s global and per channel metering, your chosen router must have UDP enabled within the control panel. Please refer to the user guide of your chosen router for instructions on how to enable UDP" So tcp is definitely what would be used for controlling.
most music people are not familiar with router setup, TCP, UPD, ports, IP-adresses. i already used 4 different routers but NONE is working properly . PLEASE SOUNDCRAFT people EXPLAIN MORE AND MORE TO THE POINT> you build nice stuff but all your manuals suck. take a look at how behringer does that !
SoundcraftUK Are there any plans for Android? No offense to anyone who already owns an iPad for whatever reasons (as I also do), but if you're looking for a wider range of functionality and customization, Android allows you to do much more, and especially when it comes to phones, obviously a huge portion of the market are Android users. Is there any particular reason for iOS over Android or otherwise not investing to in the production of the app for both to cover the rest of the market?
Typhoon792 Hi there, there's a lot of evidence to suggest that in the Audio Industry (consumer is a different matter) iOS stuff is still ahead. It wasn't a case of picking a platform to stick with, but a case of, we cant work on both, we need to pick one and for now, that is iOS.
SoundcraftUK Sorry for taking up your time but I really do appreciate you responding. Is the reason you can't stick on both a financial limitation? It shouldn't I imagine be that much of a further investment to now port an already finished software to Android. It takes a bit to rewrite in a different language but all the methods, classes, and code or whatever are essentially already there. May I ask, where do you find the statistics that you mention? That is obviously the case for Mac vs. Windows (also for no good reason imo) but I'm not sure if that also applies for iOS vs. Android. PS- There's really not one thing that iOS or Mac can do or otherwise do better that Android or Windows can't (especially the case with Android).
Except for the word rooter this was great content and perfect execution. Thanks!
Bahahaha
lol all I can hear
Thank you!!! This video was so helpful.
When you're going to update your Firmware and the visi remote application to have more features, maybe a rta analyzer would be great, you should also be able to edit the parameters of the effects direct of the ipad such as the delay tap tempo.
It would also be great if it wasn't exclusive to ipad but to Any Device like android or windows, as mackie and presonus have done, I mean, for a mixer that is not cheap the features of your application are very limited compared to the other brands?
Great informative video
I love you, man. Tanks!
I'm from Brazil. Good video.
I hope they eventually release this app onto other platforms besides iOS. I myself like to use a Windows Surface and Laptop at my FOH. Shame it's the only software in my setup that won't work on them.
say rooter one more time....
Router, router, router. It's not a "rowter "
I’ve never heard anyone pronounce it as “rooter” as long as I’ve been involved in IT and audio. Not sure if I can sleep at night after hearing this. Ha
@@jeremyryannoel haha in South Africa its pronounced as rooter :)
Hahahahaha
😅😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣
When you do port forwarding...you have to attach that action to an specific IP. But then you are enabling dhcp...which will assign different ip's do devices on network. How will this work?
lifesaver thanks mate!!
Informative video! I just wish the router setup screen was readable.
I’m going to therapy now for hearing “rooter” so many times instead of router
I was about to post this too, glad it’s already here, lol
When port forwarding udp port 3333, which ip address had to be entered, the mixer’s ip or the ipad’s ip?
Hope that future versions of Si consoles will have USB Type-C all-in one port for bigger external touchscreens
How about Berhinger X AIR XR18
soundcraft. I am the new soundman at my church, and we use the soundboard you showed us. I sit with my family when the preacher starts, but there are times I need to adjust the volume on his mic through the board. can I do that through my iphone because I do not have a ipad.
Thank You!!!
My board is used for a musical. I have different settings programmed for each scene and on the board simply scroll the menu and hit next to change scenes. With visi remote i dont see any way to switch scenes, no next button or display for them Anyone know how to access this by the remote, Im sure there is a way.
I am unable to connect Visi Listen on my iphone while using Visi remote on my ipad can u pls make a video on this
We struggled with getting the the console to respond to changes made on the remote. This video talks about making sure that port forwarding and UDP is is configured on the router, with no explanation other than refer to you router manual. This Port Forwarding made no sense and caused a lot of delay in getting remote to work. The information that did work was in a short document buried on the Soundcraft website under Products --> Mobile Apps --> Visi Remote --> Downloads "Visi Remote with new firmware"
ROOTER!!!
I JUST came here to type this! ROOTER!!!!
What is the latest iOS version supported. I'm using iOS 16.x.x and was told currently my console must have a software update to work with this version of iOS. Is that correct. Thanks
Did he mean root-rooter?
what the heck is a rooter? Looks similar to a router.
Gary Creely No no! your 'router' is what we use to cut holes out of wood! ;) A Rooter connects to the WWW.
LMAO!
Ah... da by's!,wah? Da's a Newfoundland accent , me owld trout! Look at the t shirt! , it is our flag!
Roto Router, that's the name, and away go troubles down the drain.
When setting up the port forwarding, should you set it to port forward the mixer's IP address? Or the iPad's? I'm assuming the mixer's, as that would allow it to stream the meters to multiple iPads.
Also, any advice on setting up multiple consoles? Port forwarding is specific to the device, so if you forward UDP3333 to your first console, how will your second console send meter info on that same port? Is there a way to change the default port it uses, (for instance, to tell your second console to use UDP3334 instead) to be able to set up multiple consoles with working meters? Because if the first console has taken UDP3333, the second console won't be able to use that same port.
That is a great question. They don’t do a very good job at explaining this. This needs updated!
Can a regular android tablet be used instead of an iPad?
Hola. Porque me funciona un rato y después me deje de funcionar, tengo que apagar la consola para que vuelva a agarrar??!!
I have a si impact counsel and it says hiqnet reboot only so how can i rebootit
Hi soundcraft, I have a little doubt when configuring my router and it is this: When I'm setting the UDP forwarding an application name displays a combo box wich has some options like http, https, fdp,DNS,etc. wich one should I choose??, and my other question is: Do the IP Address created as UDP must be the same of the console? could you explain it more clearly plz?? best regards
+Bruce Zurita We recommend the Netgear router for plug and play. The routers that require a lot of setup are beyond our expertise, but an IT person will have experience with setting up the router to the level you need.
I have a problem, wich is that I already made it connecting the console, but after one hour aproximately, the app freezes and when restarting the app it doesn´t recognizes the console anymore... can u fix it?? i read in some forums that say the same...
Hey guys! After configuring everything,
Can I use the visi remote app (feature) even without internet connection?
Jacob Sarinas the “rooter” (router, lol) is your network. You don’t need internet connection. You just need the router to bridge the gap between the board and your iPad.
MundoTucan is it really this complicated. I’ve seen another video in Spanish so i couldn’t understand 100%. But all she did was connect the ROOTER to the mixer and it showed up on the ipad and typed in a code from the ipad to the mixer to allow it to control it and it just worked. Or is there more to it, like this guy was talking about setting up IP addresses, highQ, and dip numbers or whatever and im like “yeah this is to complex for my brain.
Roto Rooter? ;)
Tomato tomAHto I suppose.
I did all that and didnt work, any idea what do i write where it say router?
possible to connect with laptop ?
I'm using an SI impact. Does anyone know if I need to be hard lined in for this to work with the remote app? I'm assuming it does not have built in wireless capability I was going to use my phone as a hotspot router but I doubt I can plug Ethernet in.
just gaff your phone to it. works perfectly
So who is he going to root? I myself could really handle a root right now. Just not a bum root because that's not the kind of rooting I'm into.
Hi, could you translate that video to Spanish, you know? I have a lot of problems for my console and my iPad to connect ... thanks
how can i do with Android phone
can connect to pc ?
Good day Sound Craft my team and I just got a Si iMPACT and were wondering if ViSi remote is compatible with this console?
yes it is, but you need the latest update, and a proper configurable router i have one myself only the most routers suck (i can ping my Si-impact, with a PC in commandline, but the APP doesnt find the console !!!)
@@norbertsmallegange6331 proper configurable router explain please
I moved a fader named Jeff from fader 4 to fader 3. The console changed it right away, however, the app still says Jeff is on fader 4. How do I change or reorder fader assignments on the remote once I change the order on the console?
we are having the same issue, any updates?
@@JackHekler No - Soundcraft hasn't updated this app in about a decade. There have been many requests for updates and feature additions, but Soundcraft never supported beyond the bare minimum. We are moving to Allen & Heath and will never look back.
hello soundcraft
i just config soundcraft si expression 3 using ViSi Remote working. but the audio meter not working. it can only remote control from iPad (only fader working)
Manthou Khorn It sounds like you need to update your console!
Or your UDP port forwarding is not working correctly. Did you manage to figure out your issue?
i configured just the way you explained and but after swtching on the ip adresss on the console in dhcp mode is still 0.0.0.0
and am not able to use it from my ipad mini
+raj benny Same here. Did you ever find a work around??
+Jamila Aburmishan connect your lan cable on the lan port and not wan port
+raj benny Still not getting an ip address on the console in dhcp mode...plus my ipad mini now wont connect to the router (over wifi)
como descargo visi remot
Connect it to the Ethernet.
Not the internet port.
👍
❤️
Everything worked for me up until it was time to mix on my iPad. I could see signal come into the iPad, but whenever I made adjustments, they weren't executed on the console..
I have this problem now. How did you get around it?
Can somebody please help me here, does the Si Performer require a wired connection or is there wireless capability?
You need an external wireless router.
It has tones of steps that doesn’t stand up to its performance unlike behringer
Rooter??
Any idea when the android app will be released?
Never. It's a fuck you to people who don't want to buy an overpriced iPad just for this single purpose.
Fortunately, he says it works with version 2 or later. Plenty of those available cheap on ebay/craigslist.
So I was able to connect and see that my iPad was linked to my console but I had no control even tho I could see the live signal. Is that an instance I should reboot?
Did you find a solutions? I have the same problem
@@eryijaz4797 I did end up figuring it out. I cannot remember now but I think it had something to do with having the app open BEFORE you even power on or something like that
so, different ip addresses and different hi q net addresses on ipad and console?
BRO MIXR TO MOBILE SOFTWARE NAME BRO
I found it funny that they have the Qu-Pad app on that ipad. LOL
Same parent company
@@DEVOSFELLOWS same crap app
Rooter or Router?
All of the marketing literature notes that you can use multiple devices to control one console "for example to allow musicians to control their own monitor mixes." Is there a specific setting on the board or the app that would prevent the individual musician devices from making changes to the main FOH or other mixes? I have only connected one device to the si expression 3 board and would like to allow others to connect, but not if there's no way to limit the amount of damage that could be done to anything other than their personal monitor mix. Thanks
ChannelC1 Hi there, On ViSi remote, there is not this lockout feature, however, we are working on a multi-platform monitoring app that you can lock down to certain busses to certain people from the console interface. It's on its way!
SoundcraftUK Make sure it works on the VIs also. Actualy it'd be nice if the VIs had the same ViSi functions as the SIs.
@@SoundcraftMixers Did this feature you mentioned 7 years ago ever come to fruition?
In classic fashion, the Si expression instructions just skip a crucial step; when setting port forwarding, how do we set the subnet mask? I can figure it out, but it is annoying that this is just not mentioned.
+inthefade Thanks for the feedback, we will pass this on to the team!
Soundcraft Mixers
Thanks. I ended up assigning random subnet masks until one worked. Every conventional arrangement was deemed "invalid" by my router, and I have no idea why.
The simple answer, is that if your Subnet (your network) begins with 192 (most consumer routers come factory default this way) up to 223, then your Subnet Mask should be 255.255.255.0. Your subnet mask basically sets the range of addresses that your network is able to communicate with. So a subnet of 192.168.1.0 with a mask of 255.255.255.0 means your network device may use addresses from 192.168.1.1-254, while a mask of 255.255.255.128 would limit the pool to 192.168.1.1-126.
Yeah I tried setting it to 255.255.255.0, but the router kept saying that was an invalid mask. I'm not sure if the problem was with the router I'm using, or the console.
can i suggest you ditch the backing thrash music as its hard to concentrate on what is being said and taught by the tech expert...great videos!
Rooter Lol
too bad it still is for iOS only. When it becomes more accesible, without buying yet another device of "brand X", i'll buy an expression. If other brands can make it multi-platform, why can't Soundcraft?
Because it is much easier to create an app for ios than it is for android.
routerrrrrrr not roooooter
Rooter 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s Router! Rooter sounds like some kind of chicken 🐔.
Rooter! I had to stop the video...
ROOTER...
Hey Sean, from the product team there at Soundcraft! Would it it be too awfully much to ask that you make your app less shite? As in, remove this idiotic paging and turn it into a continuous scrolling? Same for the offline editor. What genius thought it was a great idea to leave it at this awfully unwieldy 1:1 port and call it a day? A PC is not only operated using the mouse, you know? It would have been nice to have some actually useful controls and inputs for levels and values. The fiddling and aiming with the mouse costs so much attention, it's a chore to operate that editor! AND FOR FUCK'S SAKE, modern PCs have big screen! 16 channel strips displayed and not a single more, when you even provide a choice between SiE1, 2, and 3? What a joke.
Well Soundcraft... I think this video needs to be revisited. For one TCP and UDP are completly different protocols in how the operate. Now the Slider changes from the App probably do use TCP and the meters probably use UDP the actual reason behind it has nothing to do with which device is talking to who. Also there is no need to do a port forward on a Router for this because the board and the device are both on the same LAN network and do not need to be accessible from the public internet. After this point I gave up watching any further.
you are definitely right. i believe the presenter just had a mix up. this is what it says in the manual.
"Enabling UDP In order to utilise ViSi Remote’s global and per channel metering, your chosen router must have UDP enabled within the control panel.
Please refer to the user guide of your chosen router for instructions on how to enable UDP"
So tcp is definitely what would be used for controlling.
most music people are not familiar with router setup, TCP, UPD, ports, IP-adresses.
i already used 4 different routers but NONE is working properly . PLEASE SOUNDCRAFT people EXPLAIN MORE AND MORE TO THE POINT>
you build nice stuff but all your manuals suck. take a look at how behringer does that !
Is it just for iOS or for Android also? I'd like to have the ability to not be a braindead Apple device user.
Typhoon792 Just 'Braindead' apple users for now I'm afraid.
SoundcraftUK Are there any plans for Android? No offense to anyone who already owns an iPad for whatever reasons (as I also do), but if you're looking for a wider range of functionality and customization, Android allows you to do much more, and especially when it comes to phones, obviously a huge portion of the market are Android users. Is there any particular reason for iOS over Android or otherwise not investing to in the production of the app for both to cover the rest of the market?
Typhoon792 Hi there, there's a lot of evidence to suggest that in the Audio Industry (consumer is a different matter) iOS stuff is still ahead. It wasn't a case of picking a platform to stick with, but a case of, we cant work on both, we need to pick one and for now, that is iOS.
SoundcraftUK Sorry for taking up your time but I really do appreciate you responding. Is the reason you can't stick on both a financial limitation? It shouldn't I imagine be that much of a further investment to now port an already finished software to Android. It takes a bit to rewrite in a different language but all the methods, classes, and code or whatever are essentially already there.
May I ask, where do you find the statistics that you mention? That is obviously the case for Mac vs. Windows (also for no good reason imo) but I'm not sure if that also applies for iOS vs. Android.
PS- There's really not one thing that iOS or Mac can do or otherwise do better that Android or Windows can't (especially the case with Android).
This board is so unstable. This system seems cheap, but is definitely not worth!
It’s horrible that there is no solution for android. Unacceptable
you talk too fast fore me slower please.
Gotta find a different video, i can't stand this clown saying "rooter" any longer
it is: /ˈroudər/ >eye roll