Z Reviews CD Players... Shanling EC3 // Tretitre T-CP8【Z Reviews】
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Honest answer: Yes, I want to keep buying CDs. They get unwrapped, ripped as FLAC and stored on a server with backup drives, while the CD itself gets stuffed in a cupboard. But I still want to have it. Just in case I need it again. I grew too disillusioned with digital services over the last years that I don't trust anything I do not own myself anymore.
I also have an expensive 6x Onkyo CD changer in my Hifi setup, but I would be lying if I told you it saw any use over the last couple of years.
After getting tired of some of my videogame soundtracks like tekken getting pulled from Spotify I got into CDs again I begin discovering how much stuff is not on streaming especially obscure or rare titles & compilations. Spotify is still not profitable and we’re going into a recession, I know it sounds crazy but you could wake up one day and your favorite streaming service is out of business or restructures and loses a lot of content. I think the music industry is finding out offering hundreds of thousands of albums for $12.99 a month isn’t profitable enough and I could foresee them going to a curated content model with different services having exclusive artists.
If you have a streaming service there’s no reason to have the flac. It’s tedious to rip CDs when you can just play them or stream it. And not have to manage HDDs breaking.
The only place where it makes sense is if you have a CD that isn’t available on the Streaming service. I have a few that are hard to play online anywhere…maybe on UA-cam. It’s annoying that it’s not on a stream.
@@shitmandoodWhat do you mean by streaming service? Is it something like Tidal? I’m a member of that but I don’t know if that’s classified as a streaming service
I love CDs been collecting since 2015 and have about 2500 now. CDs are cheap at thrift stores and you can make perfect rips and save the music to a hard drive.
1993 for me, love those thrift store cds that were never played!
What do you use to rip your CDs and create FLACs? It's been over a decade since I ripped a CD and that was with either windows media player or iTunes. I regret compressing them because I have to do it all over again and a not all the CDs were mine.
I'm a Mac user, for me I use XLD ripper since its free although it takes some time to setup. dBpoweramp was another popular choice but costs money@@spamcan9208
@@spamcan9208I boought the cheaper license for DBpoweramp. The ripping is good, but even better is the tagging and finding of album art. It works within windows, so you can just right click on files and do it that way. Now, there is also Musicbee, which is free but I never used it for ripping, but i think it has that feature. It is good for tagging and finding album art and organizing files as well, it is also the player I use.
@@spamcan9208 foobar2000 can rip, encode, tag and manage your library and playlists. you need the app, the encoder pack, and MusicBrainz/Discogs components (all available on its website). spend a few moments setting it up and making it not look like a dogshit windows 98 program, set up some keyboard shortcuts for playback controls, volume and minimizing/restoring the window, toss it in your Windows Startup group and you have an always-on music player. legitimately the best piece of software in the world.
CDs yes. Physical media yes. Get audio not available digital, rip to any format you want (physical or digital) and is not susceptible to being removed from digital services. And physical movies beat digital rips like a drum. I already have a great collection of CD's, many bought dirt cheap and CDs aren't nearly as fussy as vynil.
The only pain with CDs is with the loudness war, brickwalling and remasters. I’ve gotten to where I try to buy 1980s and early 90s releases of CDs for my favorite albums before the loudness wars and modern digital remastering techniques really kicked in hard. I don’t care what they say either about Spotify ending the war without loudness equalization, the dynamics are still lost on alot of music compared to their early CD counterparts.
To tackle the loudness wars, I have a Philips CD recorder that allows you to lower the overall volume. In order to keep the audio levels consistent between older and newer CDs when I rip them to my itunes playlists. I copy the CD to a blank CD with the reduced volume before I place them on the playlist(s). Yes, I'm a sick man audio wise. This keeps the volume level relatively consistent, so one song isn't twice as loud as another. Yes, it doesn't fix the dynamic range issue though. Volume wise original (old CDs) had a volume level of 0 at +8db. New remastered CDs can have a volume level of 0 at +18db. Depending on the CD I have to reduce the audio level anywhere from 5db to 8db.@@mikeg2491
I find it interesting that people regard CD’s as some archaic thing when in actuality if you are an Audio purist you’ll buy CDs because a quality cd player/transport will beat the living shit out of streaming. If you want the best sound quality you’ll buy CDs. There is no getting around that…yet.
I reached summit tier status acquiring a Chord Dave and I can absolutely tell you high-qualify Spotify does not compare to CDs, I now notice muddier bass immediately and soundstage is narrower. Qobuz comes close but the UI is awful, and alot of the sources for albums are the bad remasters with poor dynamic range, the compression may be butter but it doesn’t make up for a bad master.
Exactly! Since I bought my 1500$ Marantz ND8006 cd player with multiple options I can't care less about streaming music. It sounds amazing and makes sing every single CD from my collection. I still have thousands of those, and apparently younger generations are starting to prefer physical media than crappy streaming services. Congrats!
How? We have 24 bit 96 kHz lossless streaming.
Assuming they are from the same master and same DAC, a lossless stream (16/44.1 or higher) will sound same as the CD, with the CD sounding ever so slightly worse because of the CD mechanism's sound. One problem with streaming is they only have the latest 'remastered' version of albums. Many times the 'remastered' ones are worse than the original (Rage Against The Machine for example). I buy the original CD in such cases and rip it to my music server.
I just bought a Leak CDT Cd transport 2 weeks ago. I kept about 200 CDs and I’ve been buying a few remasters and Japanese remasters of some favorite CDs. There are times when you just want to listen to an entire album and want to hear it in its full glory without any hiccups or streaming issues.
Beautiful
Nice review Z.
I wish the Shanling too was automatic and that screen was a bit larger.
CDs never really went away, I’ve been buying them right along and using a blu ray player as a makeshift CD player. I will say I can’t see myself dropping 500+ on a player, though.
The ONLY thing that turns me off with Blu Ray players is that you cannot do program play or random play without having to turn on the TV to navigate. Some Blu Ray players won’t even do those functions in the first place.
I'm probably in the minority, but all I want is a compact CD player that:
1) I can put on my desk and plug my headphones in when I want to listen to a CD
2) Rip CD's from
3) Supports SACD format
I think there's a "leapwell" CD portable player that has a toslink out, you might be able to rip from a toslonk.
I love cds and still use them to this day
I've been collecting CDs ever since I first started buying music, up to this day. In fact, I'm getting into SACDs and Bluray Audio.
Recent Rhino's reissues of Black Sabbath's Paranoid Quadraphonic Mix and Hi-Res on Bluray got me into checking HD CD formats (DVD-A. Bluray Audio, SACD, etc,..)
Fuck yeah, Make Media Physical Again.
Been collecting CD's for almost 20 years now, got around 700 albums
Copied them all to FLAC on my PC, been collecting for so long I don't see the point in stopping now
Also don't want to pay for subscriptions for lossless streaming services to listen to music I already own
I collected for around 10 years before moving to IEM addiction, almost everything has been ripped to FLAC.
I have hundreds of CDs, not quite 1000. But I can make my own radio station if I wanted. No need for me to pay any subscription service for stuff that I own.
noob question but how i do i copy them all to FLAC to my PC ?
@barrazaillustration9383 I use Exact Audio Copy which is commonly used to copy CDs.
@@barrazaillustration9383 I used to use Windows Media Player to rip the CD to my PC. In the settings, you could choose which format to copy into. FLAC, MP3, etc. MP3 also let you choose the bit rate for the rip. I have an external hard drive for FLAC. I also copy some cds to MP3 320 kb/s for use in my car via USB thumb drive. I believe the new Media player does this also for Windows 11 but I haven't ripped any CDs on my new laptop yet.
I for one welcome the resurgence of CD's. Though not for me, i understand how some prefer to own physical/tangible copies of their music. The fact that CD's don't wear down like vinyl is another plus for that side of the community
Wow first video out of the past 50 that people actually want to watch.
Forgive my ignorance, but what are the small speakers on your desk? The black ones with ridges on the front
CDs appeal to me because I just want to listen to albums, not shuffle
I play CD's more now than I used to since I bought my Audiolab 8300CD to partner with my Audiolab 8300A. I primarily bought the 8300CD because it had numerous digital inputs to access it's DAC and discovered that the CD playback is stunningly good, so I've been buying more and more CD's as a consequence
I started buying CDs in the nineties and have hundreds, never stopped listening to them. I have an Onkyo CD player I use as a transport outputting to a Schiit audio Bifrost DAC. It sounds great through my Rotel A-11 Tribute and Elac Debut B6 speakers….
I have a few hundred CDs myself, and I listen to them using either my NAD player as transport to an Aries II DAC or a hilariously tiny and stomach-turningly expensive Olasonic transport outputting to my Modi Multibit DAC. I never got rid of my CD collection because burning them with fully accurate and consistently formatted track listings is an epic hassle. The artwork and liner notes are another big reason I've kept them all - you just can't replace those. 99% of digital releases just have one piece of cover art and that's it. Plus I shudder to think of how much money I spent on all those. Getting rid of them would be the equivalent of throwing away kilobucks, even if I did manage to rip them all. I do still buy the occasional disc in special circumstances.
Use FLAC ? I understand having a CD collection (which I also have), even still buying them (which I dont really, maybe bought 3 albums in the last 5 years).
But actively using them ? Why ? Rip them to FLAC and stock them (you can even put as much covert art you want) ?
You gain no sound quality by wasting money on a CD transport compared to listen to a digital file on whatever. And I'm all for sound quality.
Even the vinyl hipster wagon, at least you got the vinyl sound with the pop and cracks. But CD is just digital music on plastic.
@@thierryfaquet7405 who cares man calm down
@@thierryfaquet7405I used to believe a player was a player and with transports hooked up to the same DAC that may be true to a point, but I picked up a California Audio Labs cd player from 1987 with tube(!) output on eBay. It cost no kidding $10k new in 87 and that’s not even counting inflation.I fired it up through its RCA outputs and was gobsmacked with the sound quality, velvety rich and smooth and the same digital files on Spotify just sounded thinner and more cloudier by comparison on a lot of my modern DACs. I’ve gotten into collecting CDs and even players again also finding a 1990s McIntosh cd player as well. The DACs and implementations back then are just different almost more analog-like, so it gives me an excuse to keep using CDs as intended vs all dumped on a hard drive.
Currently enjoying collecting CDs again, feels like a breath of fresh air tbh
Z, Your pick flag ship model $1k-1.5k, is it still Aeolus? Thanks for your input. Best, D.
I'm all about some physical media now. I want to own my shit lol. Oh god, the sound of the buttons on that Shanling is just unreal. I miss buttons like that being on everything
The Moondrop Discdream is available now and is sn awesome unit. $199. First its portable like a Walkman, with 10 hours of battery life. It has 500 mw of headphone out, a preamp out( line out) and xan also work as a desktop soundcard. Its about the size of a cd , just thicker. It also has an sd card slot for storage. The internal dacs are ex excellent, a cd recorded on our studio cd recorder sounded exactly the same played with the Discdream. I take it everywhere. It plays cd-r and cd-rw also, a big bonus for me. The sd card is awesome for just leaving on for hours for long trips, either using the headphones out or the line out into your car stereo. It recharges, and having the ability to use it anywhere is a huge bonus for me as a songwriter and publisher. Match it up with a set of Katos or your favorite iem and you'll love it.
Still not available, they’ve been having production issues
@@maynardewm yeah don’t know what happened to production. This test unit is working fine, I listen to studio mixes on the go, that were recorded to a Tascam studio cd recorder. I’ve been using the MP145 planars and it pushes them just fine.
I have well over 1000 CDs. I love physical media. But there is no point in buying a modern CD player when there are plenty of vintage players around for cheap all over the place. CDs are the cheapest way to get into multibit DACs. Get a CD player with a TDA1541 or a PCM56 DAC, both renowned 80s multi-bit DACs.
Not just cheaper, I’d argue alot of these 80s players sound better than a lot of the expensive DACs made today….
Actually I like the small form factor of the new CD players but I don’t like the price.
That Shanling would look great next to my vacuum tube headphone amp.
Or you can just get a cheap DVD player with a SPDIF out, and a cheap DAC.
I have a few hundred CDs and I collected for 15 year. One of my favorite media. Also in those CD are music that nor exist in other music services. Then CDs and LPs rulez!!! Very interested in this CD players! If you can make more content about CD player would be very helpful! Thanks for the review!
I'd love to heard Zeos's take on the Schiit Urd. Personally bought a AudioLab 6000CDT to match my Schiit stack.
Love my 6000cdt. But then I'm used to the slot load from my car's player. Never a problem.
Did have problems with tray load players back in the day.
I would too! I’m currently using an Emotiva ERC-4 that I purchased last year during a sale. It normally retails for $650 and sounds wonderful. The bonus is that it’s built like a $2k player. The only slight negative is that it’s not gapless.
I have 6000CDT - BiFrost combo. Nothing beats sound of CD’s from Impex or Octave. Even Qobuz-Roon streaming doesn’t compare. I support artists I enjoy via Roon by buying their CD’s. Yes, I’m an old guy.
I'm 21 and I have always used CDs and I still use them to this day. I obviously have a lot of music on my pc and such but I just love collecting my favorite albums or special editions and in the process supporting my favorite artists or franchises. There is also the feeling of having a physical collection of music you own and interact with that digital files can not replicate. The shanling ec3 and the more recent cd80 are totally devices that I would consider when the time comes to upgrade from my mid 2000s cd player
Thanks for this review Z I still have my Sony mini disc player ❤❤❤
Thanks!
Welcome!
We’re going to be watching movies on laser disc next. Whip one of those out during movie night and ppl are like wtf is that 😂
I inherited a guys laserdisc collection, 400 movies for $2, they are definitely a conversation piece, actually got friends to sit through a whole movie on them. They weren’t ready to take one home but they felt entertained.
I still have hundreds of CD’s. I still keep a couple of cd players in use. I even have a couple of Discman players that still work! Maybe for CanJam NYC 2024, I’ll show up old school! That should spark some conversation!😁
Wouldn’t mind if reel to reel made a comeback if copies of music drop the masters were available.
I am just in the slow process of ripping my CD's to FLAC files. There is no way I can go back to physical media. It just doesn't seem practical (yet I won´t dare get rid of my CD's. Go figure.) Unless...I get one of those older carousels where I can store 100 CD's and just rotate through them, perhaps. I should look for a working used Sony CDP-CX350 MegaStorage 300-CD Changer.
Oh, and mini-disc was frickin rad. I really thought that mini-disc was going to be huge once it made an appearance as a PC compatible disc in The Matrix.
"This is now a thing?" For some, like me, it never stopped being a thing! 😁
Why do you think buying a CD is wrong? You'll own a physical lossless PCM 16-bit/44.1kHz copy for ever not subject to the vagaries of distributors and streaming services, and the artists themselves see more of the proceeds compared to streaming their songs even quite a few times. Better for me, better for the artists. I have quite a few CDs that are not available on any streaming platform, nor available for download, and many with far less compression than the modern "remasters".
Can't agree more. Zeos is a streaming victim, that's all. Physical media still ROCK! Nowadays both vinyl records and CDs sound better than they ever did. Hooked to high quality HI-FI stuff of course.
Its expensive to buy cds. If i have 10 artists that i listen to and they each have 4 albums that i want for at least 20$... its 800$ all together.
And thats a lowball amount of albums and artists to listen to. Its the entire reason people used streaming in the first place because buying music gets really expensive really fast.
Good for you! I use an Audiolab 6000cdt CD transport with a digital out to a Mytek Brooklyn DAC+. My second unit is an Oppo BDP 105 Blue-ray player to play CDs and SACDs. I also rip all of my CDs (400+) to FLAC files onto a Samsung SSD connected to a Mac Mini M1 which is my Roon Core. CDs are readily available 👍👍
Is the wallpaper supposed to be Chiaki Minami from Minami-ke?
$600 for a CD player that doesn't even have a hinge for it's door... what
What’s the advantage of this and who is this for?
It’s interesting to me now knowing that streaming services censor things that I didn’t realize they were, I had a collection of cds back in the 00’s, but I was young and don’t have a single one left
I'm just now getting into collecting CDs and that's exclusively because what media organizations giveth, they can taketh away. If my favorite artists get cancelled for some trivial reason or another and their music is removed from streaming services, at least I'll have both a backup and a physical copy.
By way of example, when Disney acquired Fox (and thus FX), they permanently removed a number of episodes from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia _and_ _scrubbed_ _them_ _from_ _their_ _DVDs_ . So now the only way to watch those episodes is to pirate them, and although the internet's come through in that regard in the past, I'd rather not rely on the benevolence of strangers or the assumption that pirated content can't be effectively regulated.
Reasons:
1.- Full audio quality
2.- Physical
3.- No fees, usually cheap specially on 2nd hand market
4.- No internet, no problem
5.- Censored proof
6.- Awesome art
7.- You can sell them and get some money back
I have an emotiva erc3 (has xlr output and plays SACD), TEAC PD H01 (great for desktop) and Onkyo DX-C390 6 cd changer (most used). I enjoy using them daily with my ever growing cd library.
'censored proof' someone doesn't remember the 80s
does it support gapeless playback?
i have a biiiig bunch of cds stil, does that make me a hipster now?
CD portable walkmans had some of the best clarity....a reference CD player with direct built in reference headphones amp is the ultimate.
Cassettes and CD's have never left. I have 4 cassette players two TOTL and when people hear them they think CD. CD's just have a great sound and you will be happy when the internet goes down one day. 😁
@ZReviews will you make an Audeze CRBN review ? (like if u wanna see it as well!)
minidisc exacty with sacd or blueray layer inside
Is there ANY point to a CD player? A cd stores digital data, short of its DAC, what else would even effect the sound? I wanna see someone hear positive difference between like a transport into an ADI2 vs some high end $20k cd player. I bet you option 1 sounds better. Hell I bet the CD drive in your computer, coming out of the RME ADI would be cleaner or the same.
The ET3 does look interesting, Phillips transport with I2S ( up to 512 DSD) output for 750 bucks, hope you do review it
I'm up to 162 CDs
I'm up to around 1,000, a work colleague has around 2,000.
I'd love to have MiniDisc to come back... I still have a working unit.
Feel old watching this. I grew up with cassettes and 8 track. Bought my first Sony CD player in 1988. First CD was Steve Linwood roll with it and def lepard hysteria. I know the CD format was knocked when it first came out for being full of jitter and harshness but the format and dacs got better. I have ripped all my collection of cds to a harddrive in lossless flac years ago. Still sounds great streaming and using foobar locally but the best sound out iof them all (including any of the streaming services that I'm paying for ) is still spinning those silver disks from a transport into a dac. This is one reason I haven't sold off my CD collection like others have. I remember the mini disk and all the advertisement from Sony back in the 90s. Back when Sony was at the top of their game with portables and their es line. Let's not forget they made the Sony diskman. I have one of those old units and fired it up out of curiosity into a newer set if headphones and was kinda shocked actually. Even Sony's higher end DVD players (first and second generation 7000 and 7700) have decent and surprisingly powerful and decent headphone output with analog volume next to power switch when spiking DVD and cds. I also has some of Sony top end portable cassette walmans with the turbo are boost headphone that still sound decent. It was amazing how Sony could make such compact portable not much bigger than the cassette itself. And if you were lucky enough to visit or know someone in Japan you could get even better stuff that we did t get here in the states. Japan had the wireless walkman models with built in Mics. Good stuff back than.
I love CDs as well and have been collecting since '86. At home, I listen to CD's and Vinyl as much as I stream. It goes like this ... Any time I am sitting a just listening to music, I listen to CDs or Vinyl. Any other time, like when working or just have it on in the background I stream.
I’ve been buying 2 CDs a month for the last 20 years. Love them.
I been going back to cd`s since months ago when i found a collection of classic music cd`s and i got the idea of getting at least my favourite track on cd of every band i can so i got myself a couple discmans and some hifi mini components from philips and sony.
My favorite band is failure and I buy their vinyl and CDs directly from them and that's how they get the majority of their income by physical media sales.
I buy physical media from all the bands I enjoy and wish to support.
I also own many copies of tool CDs because their CD releases are not run of the mill but very special
If you press down on the spindle of the Tretitre, the disc pops out.
If the T-CP8 set included a remote control, I would have bought it at that moment because I started collecting old CDs. In my opinion it's perfect.
I know this is a bit old... 8 months now, but I probably have 1000 CD's in my basement. Finding a reasonable CD player to work with my Spinbase and turntable is crazy hard. I picked up this little Trititre CD player. It sounds perfect for my need.
The last nice cd player in my memory is frm Bang Olufsen.. U know.. dat satelike looks kinda things.. U put the cd vertically.. Wow wut a memories butter.. Peace again!
I've just recently started buying cds again, if your hard drive goes or the Internet goes down you're fucked music collection instantly wiped out, I'll be soon looking to get a transport
I will wait for the moondrop CD player
Not all streaming songs sound good.
I still buy CDs for my personal library. I have compared some songs to there streaming counterparts and in many cases the songs on the CD sounded noticeably better. Ever since then I been buying CDs as a backup library since their so cheap “RIGHT NOW” prices might change in the near future.
Didn't know about the moonddrop one, it's out, will buy it, looks lovely, have load's of cd's
On a side note. Nice pads on those HD 800’s. ❤
CD's are the way to go. They are cheap, physical, have art, and artist notes. With the fact you can find many different masters, and versions of songs. You own it, and the quality of the audio is as good as it gets, only thing equal is a file with the exact copy.
As far as the players, there are decades of top notch players with killer dac amps in them for less than $100. Only until these last few years you can get a dac equivalent for around $100.
I also own the sd cards holding my flac files.
I bought my first cd player in 1993 love cd and vinyl over streaming. And i use the Marantz SA-10S1 now.
Love the Ganyu mousepad.
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Love CDs. Really want a good cassette player to come out.
good luck on that one and for what
@@krwd I couldn't possibly imagine what a cassette player would be for.... Prob just use as an anal dildo.
@@patfrederick7327 Interesting. I may have to try that.
They do have a good one. The Tascam for $600. Brand new and it works. I’ve tested the recording to a blank tape and it sounds good. My biggest complaint is the cost of blank tapes. New or used.
Aight hear me out, Cartridges with ROMs, one album on one cartridge, multiple checksums for error correction, metadata for every track, covers and lyrics included. You can rip it, but still require the cartridge for checksums, so you can transfer it to the DAP but you're more inclined to keep the original. It worked with nintendo switch we can make it work for music. Physical media, just as CDs, but doesn't scratch, easier to carry
CD's need to stay until ALL music currently available on CD is available for lossless downloads. I will buy lossless / hd wav files for albums as a first option. However, most albums - especially older rock / pop / classical are not available on lossless downloads. So, I will buy the CD - new or used, rip uncompressed wav (or flac) files to my music server/streamer, and store the CD. I can still play CD's on my hifi if desired, but usually just stream or cast to whatever device I want.
Minidisc were great , but I think they didn't make money because the discs did not wear out , you could record and erase the same disc hundreds of times with no sound difference.
Cassette actually make some sense in terms of new production for collectors. Tech moan talks a lot about how the quality of new parts isn’t great compared to old manufacture. Mostly because the main market for them now is cheap players used in prisons. So having a company make a small amount of new production, high quality play heads, could have a market for collectors. It’s probably also stupid expensive to produce play heads for this, but we are talking about collectors, and audiophile collectors at that.
i still use a cd player occasionally i still buy a lot of CD's because i listen to a group which packages a cd with a photobook also the physical CD's sometimes have songs on them which are not available on streaming sites i also ripped my CD's to play on my dap .
I adore CDs....and they're dirt cheap for the most part (except for really popular stuff).
I am yet to purchase a fancy transport, but in all honesty I'm happy w/ my Marantz UD7007. I do have a Pro-Ject DAC Box S2+, so I may try out of "transport" at some point. I dunno....
Hey. I can get very, very good sound out of cassette (no not using dolby NR). But it is a rabbit hole that most will never want to go down.
What about the new moondrop cd player??
Yes. Yes we do
Papa is still rocking the Singxer I see.
Having too many features in a small package makes me believe it does not sound as good as the Cambridge Audio CXC.
Just ordered the Shanling EC Mini
On the upside this review reminded me to try my circa 1991 Sony CDP-C75ES 5 (i paid $20 for it) disc changer, it has optical out and it was pretty high end when new... Right now I am listening to a album I can not find online... A somewhat obscure band from Seattle Grunge scene : Willard -Steel Mill (it is HEAVY.... really heavy, if you like Tad , Melvins, Tool? this could be for you).. On the down side I had to futz with the 32 year old cd player to get it working at first (carousel was a bit stuck) and door opening mech probably needs cleaned ... but whatever after operating these a few times they seem to have cleared up for now, cd playing is perfect.
The Headphone section on this cd player is no joke .. 1/4" can easily drive my Senn HD6XX or Beyer DT880s it can actually do ok~ with Fostex T50rp mkIIIs even... (about 50% volume... is loud enough with the T50s.)
I also have a Sony ES 3-Head tape deck with will shock you.... it is really good, it is amazing what Sony had been able to do in cassettes in the late 80s. The headphone section of the 700ES tape deck is also excellent, I have heard headphone amps that don't sound close to as this good.
CD's never left and with the cost of vinyl so high and continuing to incease CD's will be in more demand.
moondrop have one as well, at least more affordable
i dont have much cd but these players intrigue me
Pretty sure in 2024 we don't need to spend $500+ for a good cd player, even by moderate audiophile standards. It might take awhile for someone to start making one, but I'm pretty sure it's within the industries ability for a couple hundred bucks.
Ive been hunting for a cheap cd player after my trusty old discman finally died. I wonder how much better a dedicated machine would sound over run of the mill dvd players everyone has.
I have hundreds of cds from back in the day, and getting more. Im getting really tired of qobuz deleting albums and then i have to find them elsewhere online.
Actual sound quality is dictated by the DAC in the unit. A dvd with a digital out lets you choose. I tend to get used higher end players from the early years. The transport tends to be more rugged, and they usually have good DAC. Better than whats in the average phone, tablet, laptop nowadays.
I’m actually one of the few people I know that still listens to CDs. I actually need to upgrade my player from the old Mitsubishi DVD player I’ve been using to something much better.
Zeos: Have you heard Frankenstein by The Edgar Winter Group? How about Bela Flek and the Flektones The Flight of the Cosmic Hippo? Some good bass testing there. Waiting on a pair of Swan M200 Mkii at $290 all I can afford because of Novid scare messing up my private ride-share business fares. If it gets to where it was before, I can get a pair of M300Mkiii for my bedroom. Thanks for what you do.
I still love CD's. I like owning my music, and not just streaming or buying files. I also buy vinyl albums.. so yea, I am old school!
Great used CD shop in my neighborhood for my factory refurbished Yamaha CD S 3000. That and streaming are all we do. My wife forbids a turntable.
I occasionally subscribe to streaming services when there are deals. Otherwise I get most of my music from CD'S or Vinyl. I have a few thousand of each format.
Lot of good CD deals these days. You can buy sets of albums for $25. It’s easy and cheap to stack up a collection.
I love CDs. Have hundreds. Still buy them occasionally.
The money asside, CD players are still a thing, and they are here to stay, but I get why people are sceptical. When I got into critical listening and all that audiophile stuff, I always wanted the highest bit rates and bit depths, to listen to the best of the best. I was even thinking about going DSD. Long story short, I got some CDs for my 90's Mercedes-Benz car stereo. I then compared tracks on those CDs with the same tracks in FLAC and I could not tell the difference in 95% of them, while the 5% were maybe, not sure. So, I figured out that 16bit/44kHz (CD audio quality) does give you all the detail and dynamics you need. In fact, some of the CDs printed in the 90s have even higher dynamic range than the modern digital reissues. EDIT: Portable CD players are dead, though.
reason why i want cd transport
1. japanese copyright laws are weird and a lot of anime soundtracks arent on streaming services (unless its a rip or the quality is doodoo)
2. said anime soundtracks would look nice as cds in a little collection of songs/albums that mean a lot to me
you still don't need a "CD transport". Just rip your "rare" CD to FLAC ?
@@thierryfaquet7405 refer to point 2 and the fact that I said “want” not “need”
@@marcusloo767 doesn't change a single thing about what I said ? Having a CD collection still has nothing to do with having a useless CD transport... The collection is here, you can take them out, look at it. Show them to the friend you don't have. Just without the need to put the actual CD into a device.
oh i also like the ritual of loading a cd in @@thierryfaquet7405
I’m kind of surprised Z with as much anime shit as he is into isn’t a physical media guy for this reason.
i threw out a whole bunch of Minidiscs a few days ago while clearing out my garage.
Because we like them, there is something artful about loading your physical music into your player manually, rather like vinyl...😊😊
I only listen to CDs for older music because you can get the original non remastered versions
Isn’t CD quality 16/44.1 what MQA was trying to achieve? 😂 or claiming they had? 😂
Funny, my current CD player is a Stanton C.313 lol only the oddballs are left😄
I have a Rotel with a Philips DAC. I couldn't be happier
The WEF doesn't want you to own anything. Not even little plastic discs to play music
Yes to CDs, always, but I prefer playing them on 80s-90s Japanese gear. And yes to MD as well.
You didn’t have CDs? You can always get used CDs at second hand stores for awesomely cheap. That’s how I acquired many of my favorites. I still buy CDs, because they can reliably play music. I can’t say the same for streaming. Also, occasionally the songs that I want to listen to aren’t always available online.