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Saberspark I feel like you exadurated Lars and Sadie. Lars ditched Sadie for the cool kids in a total of one episode, which resulted in his throat being caught on fire. After that, he's a bit of a snark and a complete coward, but not necessarily a bad person (moreso confused, and pretty much the spitting character of a teenager). Not to mention his recent redemption / potential redemption.
i love my family i love my family i love my family i love my family i love my family i love my family i love my family i love my family I HATE YOU ALL. Who is he kidding? Peter is a total narcissist.
In one episode there was a scene where Lois was leaving a cafe with another guy but they both retreated back inside once they saw Peter and his friends walking their way.
Yes, & it's a VERY sad reflection of the dark times we live in.. Nobody really wants true romance & loving relationships anymore. Me, I'm an old school romantic, & I have absolutely no desire to join in on today's modern dating scene. Another sad thing is that I actually know several people that are in horrid relationships, like the ones portrayed here. One of those people being my father.
@@brandonpage7087 You think people in the "good old days" didn't have fucked up relationships? They were probably more fucked, but since we have the Internet now, we can better see all the bad things that happen.
I don't think it's really an issue in fiction and animation, I'm not watching a show/film/anime for "healthy" relationships, I want to see strugle and fucked up relationships and how characters deal with it or overcome it. It'd be boring for cartoon characters to be in plain and normal relationships.
Absolutely hate the way Hollywood romanticizes Joker and Harley's relationship especially in the new Suicide Squad. Impressionable young people look up to that and may stay in harmful relationships because of it. Thanks for including it
Harleys crazy and their evil so if you look up to them..your going to jail..you can enjoy them without idolizing...I do..i never thought I would be a fan of a abusive evil couple but it gives them layers to be more interesting and work together so....who would of thought joker wanted a gf..not me growing up
@@razkable There's a huge difference between enjoying a toxic fictional couple because it's interesting and gives layers to the characters (which is what you're doing and why the relationship is there in the first place) and going "omg I want a relationship like that" or "lol this is so me and my bf, we're so #crazy". The sad thing is there are a lot of people who view it that way and Suicide Squad (and a lot of media outside of the official works) annoyingly went the route that caters to that audience, which is a shame because there's a lot you can explore with the relationship that's already there.
Thankfully there’s a harlequin movie coming out soon and she seems to be against joker from what’s shared in the trailer?? So maybe Hollywood is getting the idea
For the record, I have seen the recent episodes of Steven Universe and I see how Lars is changing. Hell, maybe I might need to do a Top 10 Cartoon Redemptions or something lol
Dishonorable mention for this video: Hugh and Lila Test from Johnny Test I don't really see them showing having a good marriage but it's just boring. Hugh is a stay home father who cleans up the house, cooks nothing but meatloaf and yells at his own son. Lila is business woman who works a lot. I mean in Dexter's Laboratory Dexter's parents shows having good strong marriage. Johnny's parents not really. But all I see that they get a divorce when Johnny goes to high school. Plus we have no idea why they marry each other ?
I feel like the people that are so obsessed wth Harley and the Joker's relationship are those that only saw Suicide Squad or go off of what they heard because when I was a kid, I was able to grasp that what Harley and the Joker had was terrible and every time Harley would be physically abused I felt some sort of fear for her.
@Santiago E. Juárez Martinez ^^^ this. It became some creepy norm online, to ONLY cling to even the vaguest positive traits a character has and ignore all negatives. It's toxic and damaging and it's really scary that this is how people mimic relationships. They stay in abusive relationships because "they used to be nice" or "they got me flowers today"...
@@Viridiiana kinda poisen ivy was getting married but then they decided they didnt wanted to get married and poisen ivy and harley kissed while they were running away from the cops
No it's Goku: **lifts up her dress** Chi-chi: GOKU?!?! Goku: I could have sword you were hiding cinnabons undee your dress. Chi-chi: for the 96th time this month, I'm not hiding cinnabons under my dress I'm 7 months pregnant!
i know im the only one but i wont ever agree to this, im a goku fan and inside im sure he loves chi he aint from earth so he isnt gonna understand everything well... and your hating him for that well guess what vegeta stinks to, he may be good to me hes still bad, in my option vegeta and bulma are up there
I think what's funny is that Plankton built Karen and programmed her. He programmed her to be the way she is. She's always snarky to him, and doesn't put up with him lashing out at her. But he programmed her to be like that. He gave her free will and has to deal with it. Maybe he's a masochist and actually likes being humiliated.
Whenever I hear people say that they want a relationship like Harley and the jokers then it becomes so obvious that they've never read the comics or seen the cartoon
Ismael Lovera I saw Harley recently beat the shit out of Joker and admit it was an abusive relationship and how no one would ever touch her or treat her like he did and I am so proud of her
My mother said she had one with my dad but she was the Joker and he was Harley. She chose that couple cause the always considered herself insane along with my dad but she is abusive. I’m glad I don’t live with her anymore.
Exactly. Hell in school there was this one couple who dyed their hair harley quinns and jokers from the suicide squad. I am so glad they changed it back
I doubt it since he would have probably mentioned Lars obvious low self-esteem and willingness to risk his life for others in the newer episodes then again he also didn't mention Sadie trapped the two of them and a kid on an island so maybe he is biased.
It does bring up the question though of if a character is a complete ass for a long time, do they deserve a redemption? If so how hard should they really have to work to earn it? I hated it in Harry Potter when Draco got a get out of jail free card for some last minute redemption and I kind of feel Lars doesn't deserve to be happy either. The best he should be able to get after all the crap is friendship.
On the list would for sure be Pacifica Northwest's parents from Gravity Falls. They treat her daughter like a pet with a bell that they ring when she stands up for others or does the right moral thing. They don't care about her they just want her to make them look better. She acts cruel to other like people in the Falls and the Pines family because her parents have taught her to do so. She then finds out that her parents are wrong for having treat people they way they have been and rejects that behavior.
It’s possible that Eustace was a good man when they first got together. Age does change people. My grandpa has started to accuse my grandmother of cheating on him since his dementia has taken over. My grandmother has been a stay at home mom since they got together. No time for an affair. Time and not taking care of yourself changes people.
My great grandfather was a gentlemen, until the effects of ww2 ruined him. He became an abusive alcoholic. He abused his wife, Hanna for years! And she eventually died from a alcohol in 1971, shortly after my dad was born. I never met him. He died in the early 80s. But even after his passing, his son (my grandfather) suffered from alcohol and divorce! He eventually died when I was four. 😓
the guy clearly didn't see the ep when Eustace apologized whole heartedly to Muriel and they make up in bed and the sweet music plays...I forget it but its so sweet...they are in love..opposites attract maybe they were arranged as was the style in the olden days and they been through so much their age has a lot to do with his bitter nature and passive aggressive old school built respect but resentment of his long time spouse...Eustace is just a jerk to everyone...that's just who he is..hes old squidward..not getting sex not having kids and not having your dreams come true will shatter your spirit...
Beth and Jerry's failing marriage actually made me cry when I watched the show, it hurts to see them trying to build up pieces that are just falling apart
which is probably the best for them. Like, other than working at the Big Donut, there really isnt anything they have in common, they dont share any hobbies, there is just not romance between them as much as sadie and lars somewhat convinced themselves there was, specially from the episode where they are stranded in an island and they kiss each other, just try to analyze their situation, they are in an island with no way to reconnect with the world, so their only option to have someone is each other, if you look at it that waym it kinda makes sense they had a moment in the island, but as soon as they are back in beach city, all that is gone. I love how Sadie and Lars grew as the show went on, but honestly, I think they are better off as good friends than as a couple, and thats perfectly fine.
Also, that would have been a pretty negative message to send to young people. "If you just stick it out long enough that person you are hopelessly in love with for some odd reason will finally stop treating you like shit and kinda love you back."
Indeed, I that in SU Future, they confirmed that they’re both better as friends than a couple. Especially since now Sadie has a new partner, Chef, and Lars and the Off-Color are going on more adventures in space
I'd also like to point out that Harley vanished for a while from Joker's life and he didn't seem to care either way, she was gone for a year and he didn't even seem to notice. Why did she vanish? She. Was. Pregnant. She hid their daughter from him for a reason. She left for the entire duration of her pregnancy because "his work is too important". Harleen Quinzel gave up being a psychologist to join up with him, only to go through extreme abuse, a hidden pregnancy, and more.
There is a theory about Dale actually knowing about Nancy's affair with John Redcorn and Joesph not being his son: He doesn't divorce Nancy not just because she's hot and more financially stable than him, but because he's seen what divorce can do to a person, especially a childhood friend. Bill became a MESS after his divorce and would do anything for emotional connections. Dale is afraid of that happening to him so he puts up with Nancy's infidelity. But he does have the ultimate revenge in his eyes: raising Joesph as his son. Joesph looks up to Dale and not John, and Dale teaches him everything in life that he knows. He is always there for the boy for everything. John Redcorn agonizes over this but it's karma for him sleeping with another man's wife. So if this theory is true, then I understand Dale a little more now.
An interesting theory. Dale is however an extreme Conspiracy nut, he has an incredible aversion to facts and reality (which is why he has such a breakdown when he realizes the government's official story regarding JFK's assassination is true and has a personality flip), refusing to accept the fact he's the guy with a green hat (A Chinese euphemism for someone who's being cheated on) isn't unsurprising. However being in denial and knowing that they're cheating but refusing to admit it to himself at a conscious level is in keeping with his personality.
I'm so glad you mentioned the Joker/Harley relationship. While I love the cartoon and find their dysfunctional relationship to be interesting, it absolutely sickens me how people romanticize it. The Joker is a heartless bastard. Love him or hate him, he only cares about himself. He has no soft spots, no desire to do good, he doesn't mean well, etc. His whole character is about how much joy he takes from hurting and killing others. He's not going to make an exception for Harley. He doesn't see her as his equal and goes out of his way to tear her down whenever she has a moment where she feels happy for herself or anything else. You don't want a Joker/Harley relationship. You shouldn't want to abuse your partner. You shouldn't want to not see them as your equal. You shouldn't want to tear them down when they're feeling good. You shouldn't want someone to belittle you. You shouldn't want someone to manipulate you. You shouldn't want someone who treats you like Joker treats Harley, and you shouldn't want to act like a Joker to your s.o. Sorry for the rant, it's just.... disgusting lmao.
Yeah it’s disturbing 😶 reminds me of how people do that with Sam and Freddie given they were portrayed as toxic too and Sam never TRIED to improve herself 😅
The whole "Goku never kissed his wife!" thing is a HUGE mistranslation error. Basically, Goku being the doof that he is thought Vegeta was talking about something else. Remember that Japanese is a high context language. If you are naive or dumb enough (like Goku), you can misunderstand a LOT of things...and that was the joke of the scene. The issue is that the joke didn't translate to English (a low context language).
Which is weird because it's implied that he kisses his wife when he leaves to go fight the androids after he wakes up from being sick from the heart virus
Also in Goku's defence, he does show some care for Chi Chi when he gets all pissed after Goku Black tells him how he killed Chi-Chi and Goten and in the beginning of Z they seem to have been living as a happy family during the five year skip. After all the Saiyans came, he is a lot more neglectful of his wife since its always about protecting the Earth or fighting strong but he doesn't necessarily run away.
Well, I agree that Goku isn't a "bad" husband, but he's certainly not "good"; And I don't blame him. GOKU WAS TRICKED INTO MARRIAGE!...and probably into his first ever sexual experience, 😰! Then you add onto that chi Chi's constant yelling and intimidation, and her domination of Gohan's childhood and future career path... Chi chi is a control freak who married an illiterate hick with a literal retarded I.Q. (probably around 80-90 for rationality and language), and so owned her firstborns life that he grew up without friends his age! Chi chi is fucking horrible, and it's no wonder everyone is afraid of her! 🤪
It's the personality. Seriously, she SHINES with her dry wit, sharp mind, and, as the man says, ENDLESS patience. That's the kind of beauty that leaves you with the "I don't know why but I can't stop thinking about her" feeling.
@@someweirdlumpofmeat158 I love Goku too lol. But I have to admit, he is a lousy father and a horrible husband. I wish they developed Chi Chi and Goku's relationship.
@@SaltyBanjos dont try to use logic with them. TFS made so many people think he's a shitty dad and they wont think others wise, even when TFS themselves think that canon goku is a good father and husband and hates that thier parody is taken as gospel now.
Harley Quinn actually has stockholm snydrom. Its a phenonem, mostly linked to a post-traumatic-disorder, that often appears in abusiv relationships or hostage takings. The victim oftne believe that this is what it deserves, often even sympathizes with the aggresor or romatizes them. I actually had someone as my best friends with diagnosted stockholm snydrom, his girlfriend was highly abusiv and cheated on him in regular bases. As he finally realized how bad this relationship was, he even attempted suicide. His stockholm syndrom was caused by his childhood, his mum married to a highly absusiv man himself, a really violent alcoholic who even killed his mother. Pretty sad story... I get really angry when I see post like ''I want a relationship like Joker and Harley.'' Like... No... No, you dont.
Hello there. I'm sorry for what happened to your friend, but something needs clarifying here. Harley and the Joker have a horrible, HORRIBLY toxic relationship--but it's not Stockholm syndrome. Your friend didn't have that either, unless he was literally held prisoner, trafficked, or abducted by that ex-girlfriend. Stockholm syndrome is when a prisoner falls in love with their captor. The Joker was previously held at Arkham, which puts him in the "prisoner" role--but Harley was his psychiatrist. She was not a jailer, nor did he love her as much as she did. However she was still manipulated into breaking him out. When the captor falls in love with their captive, that is Lima Syndrome. This does not apply to them, either--because again, Harley was doing her job as a psychiatrist beforehand. It's closer, though. What they all went through is just a byproduct of abuse. That ex was horrible, but neither syndrome can apply without (un)lawful incarceration, a hostage situation, or a kidnapping. Stockholm syndrome can be abusive in relationships, but not all abusive relationships involve Stockholm syndrome. Again, I'm sorry.
There's a syndrom fitting to Harley's obsession. Have you not watched Back to the Future ? The doctor falls in love with the patient = Florence Nightingale syndrome
I'm so sorry. I had a friend who was in an mental abusive relationship. Thankfully, he is no longer in that relationship but the damage is already done.
I really don't get how people can view Harley and Joker as being the goal for a relationship. I don't even read the comics but I KNOW it's canon that Harley comes to see HERSELF that it was an abusive situation when she gets herself out of it. I just don't get people.
I think the biggest thing people miss about that "relationship" is that they are both, literally, insane. The Joker is who knows how many levels of crazy and managed to seduce/mentally break his own therapist and turn her into Harley. Loving or hating the characters themselves is a personal thing, but yes, I think more people need to put up the DO NOT TAKE DATING ADVICE FROM INSANE MURDERERS posters...
I have a head canon that Bob and Miriam struggled to conceive and ended up with their miracle baby Olga. Then were surprised by an unwanted second baby.
I like Beth and Jerry's relationship because it seems realistic. They know they're disfunctional and run back to each other. The show does a good job of portraying a bad relationship and how the family's messed up because of it
One reason why I like Rick and overlook his many faults is that he will never let Jerry forget that he entrapped Beth with a teen pregnancy. Seeing him crap on Jerry is cathartic, and anytime Jerry gets a win over Rick, like the season 2 and 3 finale, gets under my skin. Beth isn't entirely perfect herself. Nobody on the show is except maybe Bird Person. But I find Jerry to be exceptionally miserable and loathsome.
@JoeRingo118 It's not a masterplan, it's a very simple plan. Something a simple guy like Jerry could think of and delude himself into thinking it's no big deal. That's not really bias, that's not liking the kind of person Jerry is.
For Drew and Charlotte I think it was intentional that their relationship is bad, cus it shows why Angelica is so spoiled and why she acts out. Having a neglectful mother who is always at work and never there for her, and a dad who spoils her to make up for it but doesnt actually know how to parent her properly. Rugrats was honestly pretty deep for what it was, it showed so many different family dynamics. Chuckie being from a single parent household with a single father trying to raise him on own being another one.
i recently saw an ad for a new harley quinn show thats gonna be airing on amazon prime, and im pretty sure its gonna be about her finally realizing she doesnt need joker anymore and that shes done being put down by him idk bout yall but im pretty hype about it
No. 6 You forgot to mention that there was an episode where plankton deactivates Karen to date Mr Krabs’ mum. I feel like that shows how bad he is in a relationship.
For the love of GOD, the Joker And Harley Quinn's " relationship " is NOT a relationship, but an extreme case of " Stockholm Syndrome ". She is obsessive/falsely in-love with the one who captured and brainwashed her. The Joker CLEARLY has shown zero feelings for her nor does he ever recognize them as any sort of couple, she's his sidekick. One-sided Stockholm. It's already had a meme made in response to the people who call it a relationship and it's people saying what I just said, the fact that it's an extreme case of Stockholm Syndrome.
blaze yogurt Jerry does but Beth doesn't care that her family goes through life threatening adventures between dimensions she just whines and bitches saying that she doesn't want Rick to leave her again.
Adam Mocha: I'm almost thirty, I don't watch livestreams. The Seuzhuan chicken sauce episode was great though. It was on Adult Swim for a week straight.
The whole Pataki family was so screwed up in Hey Arnold. I remember one episode where Olga was gonna marry some guy she'd been dating for a really short time, and Bob was like, "Maybe you should wait a little longer to make sure you really want to do this?" and Miriam was like, _"You won't want to."_ Heh, it was funny, but also sad. The show also implied on at least one occasion that Helga thought her parents would be happier if she wasn't around. There was one episode where she dreamed she had been erased from existence, and her parents were suddenly all lovey-dovey and giddy with each other. It was really depressing, actually. (Also, damn, that show had some good writing.) I feel like Oskar and Suzie Kokoshka from Hey Arnold should get a shout-out too. Remember how Oskar was a lazy bum who couldn't hold down a job and expected Suzie to do everything for him, and then whined when she didn't have time to pay attention to him? And how Suzie was constantly stressed and worn out all the time? Yeah, they were a mess. I remember one episode where Suzie finally kicked Oskar out, and Arnold tried to get them back together, and all I could think was, "Hmm, Arnold, sweetie, I know you want the world to be all sunshine and butterflies, but maybe you should stay out of this one."
Also, ugh, Family Guy. I have to say, that clip at the beginning of Lois beating the crap out of Peter is just really not funny. I know Peter's an asshole and probably deserves it, but still. I'm so sick of these shows that think that just because it's a woman beating a man, that makes it funny - or at the very least, acceptable. Because women are supposed to be the weak ones, right? And a guy who gets beat up by a woman must be a pussy? Hahaha*NO.*
Dachusblot Hey Arnold really is one of the most underrated cartoons of all time. The themes and issues the show went through were amazing and I enjoyed the cartoon for childish reasons growing up. Now though as an adult, I honestly love the show more.
THANK YOU for reminding me of Suzie and Oskar! Oskar was so awful! Even as a kid, I hated him and wanted SO much better for Suzie! Wish she would have gotten it!
the joker and harley is supposed to be a showcase for bad relationships, that's on of the reasons why the latest movie glorifying their sick and abusive relationship was so bad. It's not supposed to be something that people desire. Also you should've talked more about how good of a narrative point it was for Beth and Jerry to be separated, for being the number 2 on your list it was weird how such a logical decision wouldn't get more praise from a reviewer like you.
Adriaan Sluijs I think the list was made before season 3 really got going, when only the first episode of that season had been revealed. Otherwise, I just know Saber would've called bullshit on what happened in the season 3 finale
I feel like some of the people who ship Harley and Joker and want a relationship have a twisted view of what Dom/Subs relationships are like. Some people actually get off on hurting others or getting hurt.
Yeah, DSM relationships aren’t supposed to incorporate actual abuse. The sheep idolizing HQ clearly don’t understand that a person needs to have a sense of identity and self worth to be in a positive DSM relationship. HQ is mentally unstable but silly women think she’s a good role model. Not the show’s fault.
As a masochist, I don't find their relationship sexually appealing. While some individuals do derive sexual pleasure from pain, that does not mean that all pain or a constant abusive lifestyle is what most masochists want. In a healthy BDSM relationship, though the sadist or dominant seems to be in control, the masochist or submissive has the power to say no. In abusive relationships one partner has all the power.
I think a more accurate title would be "Top 10 Most UNHEALTHY Cartoon Couples." The word 'worst' might give the wrong idea. Some of these couples were purposefully written as unhealthy relationships to show what a bad couple looks like in order to make the show as a whole stronger. Many relationships are hard and hurtful, and certain shows want to make that clear. The idea of showcasing a bad couple isn't a terrible idea in general, as depending on the couple it can make the show more effective. But saying "worst" implies that the couple brings the whole show down. (To be fair though, a couple of your choices do fall in that category.) Your reasons of why you picked these couples are spot on though, I'm just giving advice title-wise.
I agree. I mean, the Patakis were written as being unhealthily dysfunctional. It builds a pretty good idea of how this family came to exist. A very successful Miriam dropped out of college to marry Bob, and had Olga when she was very young. As time went on, Bob lost interest in Miriam and was more interested in building up his beeper emporium. His only other interest was Olga, who had inherited Miriam's good looks and was on her way to being incredibly successful. Then, when Olga was eleven or twelve, Miriam fell pregnant again. Bob wanted her to have an abortion, but Miriam refused. By the time Olga was twelve, Helga was born, but since her family was preoccupied with her older sister, she was very overshadowed. As such, the all-important family bonds a child needs were not there, and so Helga ended up forming a different attachment: an attachment to the first person who acted like she mattered. Technically, her obsessive behaviour and aggression come from her family, but not only that - if they'd been a supportive network like a family is supposed to, she never would have fallen so hard for Arnold.
Octavia Hutchens yeah but Lars has been getting better currently, not his and Sadie's relationship. Currently at this point their relationship still isn't that great.
For the Lars and Sadie thing, for most of the show there is no relationship, just Sadie wishing there were a relationship. Also, you ignore the fact that Sadie deliberately did not tell Lars or Steven about the way off of the island, because she was enjoying Lars's relying on her in their situation.
Your point on how people weirdly want a relationship like Joker and Harley is so good and I’ve been confused on it myself. Someone I know who actively calls her boyfriend “her joker” told me it’s because of how much they rely on eachother and I had to go into an explanation how Joker basically just drove her insane to have a psychotic obsession with the Joker. He just uses her. The fact that she feels so strongly that she needs the Joker despite the negative consequences makes it seem like he’s literally an addiction. And I don’t care how much she needs him, if you want a relationship exactly like one where the guy threw the girl out of a two story window, there’s something wrong
Ok, I get Lars is kinda a jerk... but Sadie kinda stranded him in an island, and there was the whole fire donut thing. So um. I have no idea what’s going on with them.
I wouldn't necessarily call it a Lars redemption ark. There's a bit of a difference between a character changing their ways and a character developing and opening up as to why. Lars is a jerk but he's also very insecure and has fears for being looked at as something or someone else in a certain way. Later he develops and opens up the fact that he was afraid of what was going on, only wanting to not be a coward because he knew he was. I personally believe Lars was just a bit misunderstood in a way but his actions and intentions were different because of what lead him to do so. Overall, he was a jerk but he's also grown character and courage.(My apologies if it just sounded stupid but I had trouble trying to explain what I meant as it's just my own personal opinion.)
"Peter cheats on Lois" Shows us a still image of the episode where Peter is forced to have s*x with his boss, also Louis was aware of that one. But laughs at the idea of a man getting raped by a woman... It's up to you if you want to believe that.
I think jerry and beth are the best example of a bad couple, the show knows it's bad. And it's a reoccurring plot point whether or not they should stay together, and when they finally DO divorce, it's satisfying to see them both get out of their toxic relationship.
"My fault... I didn't get the joke..." I remember watching that episode for the first time as a young kid, and it really weirded me out. Like, not in a way that something like The Adventures Of Mark Twain did where the imagery was so odd sometimes, but in a way where it felt surreal to just behold. You didn't really... you didn't see stuff that blantantly toxic very often. And as I'm older, I now think that this episode is kind of beautiful for that. They showed how truly horrible the two were together, and didn't let up on it at all. It's amazing.
I think we shouldn't mix things up. Most of these "Relationship Goals: Joker+Harley" - people never saw the cartoons or even held a comic in their hands. The misconception of these two started only because of the depiction in Suicide Squad.
The Harley-Joker fandom has existed since her inception in the cartoon. I have no idea where you got the idea that no one romaticized them before that. Harley is canon in comics and by that her relationship to the Joker and its popularity had nothing to do with Suicide Squad.
Yeah, of course, Suicide Squad with a Domestic Total Gross of 325 Million Dollar has absolutly nothing to do with the popularity of these two characters, especially on Comic-Fan-Only sites like Facebook and Twitter.
Drawn to fun He meant Suicide Squad had nothing to do with them even having popularity at all. They had an already massive popularity before, Suicide Squad just made it slightly more popular. Now Guardians of the Galaxy, I'm pretty sure their movie gave them the bulk of their popularity.
Drill Knight76 I know they do hun, just decided to point it out tho, but yes I agree with Saber tho for everything we've seen atm their relationship isn't the best but like he said it might grow/it's not a finished story
okamilover99999 The one thing I think people overlook is that Sadie is pretty controlling and a lot of that comes from her mother and how she's controlling of her. she does it out of love, but it's a definite flaw I'm sure they'll work on.
As much as I want to say, "this is best for the both of them" its not right to ask for a divorce when so much else happened in the show. Lets not forget: - They saw a life where they weren't married and found a reason that they truly loved each other in the end. - Their relationship is actually healthy for their kids, its actually Rick that messes around with the kids and causes a good 50% of the messes that rise up. In an episode in season three (spoilers!!) Beth isn't as good at handling the kids as Jerry is. In the case of Jerry and Beth, the creators want to show a more dysfunctional couple that replicates a real world couple with thoughts and beliefs that might not always see eye to eye. Also, I'm just waiting to see if they get back together. Beth isn't doing well. Jerry isn't doing well. Its a possibility.
Wow it's almost like the creators of Rick and Morty made them hate each other for a reason like they were planning a divorced to use as a plot device oh wait
1.-This was made before the Wanted special 2.-Sadie was a bitch to him in Island Adventure and she is so abossesed with him 3.-They are still a shit couple
We find out that Muriel was a bit of a bratty kid, and Eustace was very timid. They changed a lot over the years, and I imagine that they met somewhere in the middle.
I think this should have been titled least compatible cartoon couples. I wouldn't call some of these bad, it could add to charm or plot relevance (like Helga being a bully). But some like Peter and Lois deserve to be called bad
Sadie, just has a huge crush on Lars, but Lars is a bit of a tsundere, and he just wants to look cool for the cool kids, who don't care if he is cool, they just accept him into their friend group anyways, but Lars doesn't see that. Lars obviously is scared, scared that Sadie won't like him, scared that the cool kids won't accept him, so he thinks that if he acts one way, he will be accepted.
I agree with Chi chi and Goku...but I see it COMPLETELY the opposite. Goku is an alien that was dropped on his head as a child, and was "raised" in the woods mostly by himself. He didnt even know what a girl was until Bulma showed up. Goku was never properly socialized and still lacks knowledge of a lot of things normal humans know almost instinctively. Chi Chi was only into Goku because he was strong, and if I'm remembering correctly, tricked Goku into marriage (I think he thought it was a food?) OF COURSE he doesn't know what a kiss is! I'm mostly convinced he has NO idea how his children even came to be, and Chi Chi tricked him by telling him they were wrestling or something...Goku is like a child in a man's body and its played for comedy most of the time, but if you spend too much time thinking about it the implications are preeetty fuuuuucked.
finalhikari and it all cuz of chi chi. Normal girl would have found a normal guy who knew stuff but not her. She went with a man child who had no clue. She has no right to get upset cuz she the one who went to him! He trying his best and dies a lot saving the earth.
finalhikari what are you talking about Goku was raised by his adopted human grandfather. In the earlier episodes of Dragon Ball Goku ship landing on Earth and when he got out of it he was a raving lunatic baby yes a baby and he hit his head and calmed down. When he was knocked out he woke up in an old man's house who later adopted him as his grandson so he did grow up civilize. And Goku who obviously met and seen some women in the village some other kids he knew what a woman was he just didn't know what they had sex binary wise. Cuz his grandfather never had the sex talk with him that's why when Vegeta ask him how you don't know what a kiss is?(dragon ball super)Goku couldn't give a clear answer because nobody had that special talk with him.
I'm aware of Grandpa Gohan's existence. I said he was /mostly/ raised in the woods by himself for a reason. After he accidentally killed Grandpa Gohan, Goku was left alone for some undetermined amount of time. Also, I'm pretty sure they did NOT live in a village. Almost positive. They lived in a shack out in the woods, by itself. And I'm also pretty sure Goku even says at one point that he had NEVER heard of a girl until he met Bulma Its been awhile since Ive watched/read Dragon Ball, but I remember Goku thinking "Girl" was a food was a joke or something. The only thing Grandpa Gohan taught Goku was martial arts and how to be a good guy.
Also, he didn't randomly wake up at Grandpa Gohan's house, Gohan found him while he was a crazy asshole baby, and he was the one who accidentally dropped him into the ravine and made Goku simple/less murderous
that and she view him as a means to have children. she probably only wanted kids and use him mostly as such. after all there wasn't many men for her to chose from if im remembering correctly
THANK YOU for calling out Joker and Harley as a couple. I'm soooo tired of hearing people praise them as a "power couple" and ignore the obvious abuse present in the comics and beyond.
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Saberspark hello
can you do the history of disney
Saberspark Lars is in his redemption arc
do a video on video game cartoon shows
Saberspark I feel like you exadurated Lars and Sadie. Lars ditched Sadie for the cool kids in a total of one episode, which resulted in his throat being caught on fire. After that, he's a bit of a snark and a complete coward, but not necessarily a bad person (moreso confused, and pretty much the spitting character of a teenager). Not to mention his recent redemption / potential redemption.
" Don't you see Lois? I fell in love with you all over again. "
Saberspark: BUlLShiT
I'm honestly shocked they'll still married
Hey, Peter never developed from that. He continued to abuse his family.
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
i love my family
I HATE YOU ALL.
Who is he kidding? Peter is a total narcissist.
I honestly don’t know if you meant for the I to be lowercase, but good lord did it make it 5 times funnier
In one episode there was a scene where Lois was leaving a cafe with another guy but they both retreated back inside once they saw Peter and his friends walking their way.
"Goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all in Therapy" Still one of the best lines in cartoon history.
The feelings that the player have when they play DDLC be like
Derpman0600 you don’t know it now but they will miss you don’t do it it’s not worth it
agreed
There were 400 likes and of course I ruined it
-Sheldon Plankton
Karen was built by plankton, and she constantly belittles him.
Plankton programmed Karen’s personality so this is proof he has a humiliation kink
Stop.
Stop that.
no. no. no. don’t ruin my fucking childhood again.
I hate this but at the same time, why i'm I not surprised-
*i still hate it though* -
This hurts to read.
This deserves top comment
Remember Joker isn't Harley's love interest, *he's her dark origin story*
Damn, very well put.
Poison ivy is her interest
Hell yes
Its even worse when you realize some of these types of relationships exist in real life
Yeah.... It's a crying shame.....😔
Yes, & it's a VERY sad reflection of the dark times we live in.. Nobody really wants true romance & loving relationships anymore. Me, I'm an old school romantic, & I have absolutely no desire to join in on today's modern dating scene. Another sad thing is that I actually know several people that are in horrid relationships, like the ones portrayed here. One of those people being my father.
@@brandonpage7087 You think people in the "good old days" didn't have fucked up relationships? They were probably more fucked, but since we have the Internet now, we can better see all the bad things that happen.
I don't think it's really an issue in fiction and animation, I'm not watching a show/film/anime for "healthy" relationships, I want to see strugle and fucked up relationships and how characters deal with it or overcome it. It'd be boring for cartoon characters to be in plain and normal relationships.
It's almost like cartoons have archetypes that are based off of real life
Absolutely hate the way Hollywood romanticizes Joker and Harley's relationship especially in the new Suicide Squad. Impressionable young people look up to that and may stay in harmful relationships because of it. Thanks for including it
Harleys crazy and their evil so if you look up to them..your going to jail..you can enjoy them without idolizing...I do..i never thought I would be a fan of a abusive evil couple but it gives them layers to be more interesting and work together so....who would of thought joker wanted a gf..not me growing up
I know I mean have you seen all the things he did to her in the batman cartoon he pushed her out of a window and he never appreciates her
@@razkable There's a huge difference between enjoying a toxic fictional couple because it's interesting and gives layers to the characters (which is what you're doing and why the relationship is there in the first place) and going "omg I want a relationship like that" or "lol this is so me and my bf, we're so #crazy". The sad thing is there are a lot of people who view it that way and Suicide Squad (and a lot of media outside of the official works) annoyingly went the route that caters to that audience, which is a shame because there's a lot you can explore with the relationship that's already there.
Thankfully there’s a harlequin movie coming out soon and she seems to be against joker from what’s shared in the trailer?? So maybe Hollywood is getting the idea
Fxck Harley and Jokers relationship, i want a Gomez and Morticia kind of relationship
For the record, I have seen the recent episodes of Steven Universe and I see how Lars is changing. Hell, maybe I might need to do a Top 10 Cartoon Redemptions or something lol
Edgar Salgado They're lying or they're misinformed.
DAVID ARAGON I honestly think that relationship was contrived. Those last couple episodes of the season weren't that good.
He's certainly upgraded himself to tolerable. I've skipped episodes with him as the focus halfway in.
Dishonorable mention for this video:
Hugh and Lila Test from Johnny Test
I don't really see them showing having a good marriage but it's just boring. Hugh is a stay home father who cleans up the house, cooks nothing but meatloaf and yells at his own son. Lila is business woman who works a lot. I mean in Dexter's Laboratory Dexter's parents shows having good strong marriage. Johnny's parents not really. But all I see that they get a divorce when Johnny goes to high school. Plus we have no idea why they marry each other ?
+Saberspark Lars is pink now
Lars is now half-lion
I feel like the people that are so obsessed wth Harley and the Joker's relationship are those that only saw Suicide Squad or go off of what they heard because when I was a kid, I was able to grasp that what Harley and the Joker had was terrible and every time Harley would be physically abused I felt some sort of fear for her.
@Santiago E. Juárez Martinez ^^^ this.
It became some creepy norm online, to ONLY cling to even the vaguest positive traits a character has and ignore all negatives. It's toxic and damaging and it's really scary that this is how people mimic relationships. They stay in abusive relationships because "they used to be nice" or "they got me flowers today"...
Tbh I shipped harley and poisen ivy
Bea Las me too! Didn't they get married or sum?
@@Viridiiana kinda poisen ivy was getting married but then they decided they didnt wanted to get married and poisen ivy and harley kissed while they were running away from the cops
They have a good relationship in the Telltale Batman game sequel. Joker actually loves her in that.
Chi-Chi: I’m pregnant
Goku: ight, imma head out
No it's
Goku: **lifts up her dress**
Chi-chi: GOKU?!?!
Goku: I could have sword you were hiding cinnabons undee your dress.
Chi-chi: for the 96th time this month, I'm not hiding cinnabons under my dress I'm 7 months pregnant!
Chi-chi schools more important then saving the world.
Everyone else: Fuck that
YAY!
i know im the only one but i wont ever agree to this, im a goku fan and inside im sure he loves chi he aint from earth so he isnt gonna understand everything well... and your hating him for that well guess what vegeta stinks to, he may be good to me hes still bad, in my option vegeta and bulma are up there
Sally Ryukia For fucks sake, I just wanted to make a joke. Don’t get ur panties in a wad, besides, I’m not hating on him, grow up
Harley Quinn and Joker are in an abusive relationship and I hate that people don't see that. so thank you for saying it.
emma jimenez Yeah I hate how people think Joker and Harley relationship is cute.
but Harley still chases joker to this day...
PokeTrainer Ash Because she was slowly brainwashed by Joker. Of which SS entirely ignores and for some reason made it happen practically instantly.
um
In suicide squad I remember their relationship being much different than this
"Smart, beautiful..."
Dude it is a computer.
*She
Please respect virtual women.
Dude you clearly don't know people too well. In japan we can legally can marry an AI from a video game, dead serious there is a thing like that.
yawny yes this is a thing in Japan. There was a guy who married a game character on his 3ds, he did a whole wedding and everything
I was looking for this comment XD
TheAwesome Pasta Lover I'm seriously concerned as to what made spark said a computer on wheels is beautiful. TF?
Plankton is clearly into humiliation, which is why he made her like that
STOP IT, STOP IT, STOP IT, STOP IT, STAWPPPPP AGAHALEJEHWUDHKAPWIXUVJCUE LOL DLTARIGHDVJRT
I think what's funny is that Plankton built Karen and programmed her. He programmed her to be the way she is. She's always snarky to him, and doesn't put up with him lashing out at her. But he programmed her to be like that. He gave her free will and has to deal with it. Maybe he's a masochist and actually likes being humiliated.
Oh no I didn't need that mental image in my head.
I was looking for this comment lmao
I always thought that Karen was AI?
@@TheRedPandaCat she is but things like personality and tone need to be programmed in, shes like that because he made her like that
That’s... hot.
Whenever I hear people say that they want a relationship like Harley and the jokers then it becomes so obvious that they've never read the comics or seen the cartoon
I don't think you know what S&M done wrong is.
You want me to explain a joke? You know the consequences of explain the joke is having it given right?
Ismael Lovera I saw Harley recently beat the shit out of Joker and admit it was an abusive relationship and how no one would ever touch her or treat her like he did and I am so proud of her
My mother said she had one with my dad but she was the Joker and he was Harley. She chose that couple cause the always considered herself insane along with my dad but she is abusive. I’m glad I don’t live with her anymore.
Exactly. Hell in school there was this one couple who dyed their hair harley quinns and jokers from the suicide squad. I am so glad they changed it back
"Maybe Lars will go through some redemption ark" HAHA he predicted it
The most stupid channel ever nope, I'm pretty sure this was made after the episodes aired
I doubt it since he would have probably mentioned Lars obvious low self-esteem and willingness to risk his life for others in the newer episodes then again he also didn't mention Sadie trapped the two of them and a kid on an island so maybe he is biased.
The most stupid channel ever lol
It does bring up the question though of if a character is a complete ass for a long time, do they deserve a redemption? If so how hard should they really have to work to earn it? I hated it in Harry Potter when Draco got a get out of jail free card for some last minute redemption and I kind of feel Lars doesn't deserve to be happy either. The best he should be able to get after all the crap is friendship.
Arc**
I really want to see a “worst parents in cartoons” now lmao
Same
Yeonjun is your what-😳
Omg, your practically famous! Yeonjun is my bias in Txt.
Omg, your actually making txt content on your channel! Gotta check your video out
Same
On the list would for sure be Pacifica Northwest's parents from Gravity Falls. They treat her daughter like a pet with a bell that they ring when she stands up for others or does the right moral thing. They don't care about her they just want her to make them look better. She acts cruel to other like people in the Falls and the Pines family because her parents have taught her to do so. She then finds out that her parents are wrong for having treat people they way they have been and rejects that behavior.
that just makes me realizes how...my parents are actually in a toxic relationship and they stay married just for the sake of me and my siblings. Damn
Thé Nérd Same bro
It's not your or your siblings' fault. Just so you know.
i know how you feel man
Deep.
Sorry bout that..
Oh god... sorry about that...
Lars and Sadie: This is very likely this is part of some bigger story.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEP!
Just not the SAME story...
...except as they relate to Steven
What’s more, Lars DID have a character development, so that was good, at least.
and he skipped the part where she essentially trapped him on an island just as some twisted way of trying to coerce him into falling for her.
@@MrHandss exactly, that was actually what I was about to comment.
It’s possible that Eustace was a good man when they first got together. Age does change people. My grandpa has started to accuse my grandmother of cheating on him since his dementia has taken over. My grandmother has been a stay at home mom since they got together. No time for an affair. Time and not taking care of yourself changes people.
That is what I thought as a kid.
My great grandfather was a gentlemen, until the effects of ww2 ruined him. He became an abusive alcoholic. He abused his wife, Hanna for years! And she eventually died from a alcohol in 1971, shortly after my dad was born. I never met him. He died in the early 80s. But even after his passing, his son (my grandfather) suffered from alcohol and divorce! He eventually died when I was four. 😓
the guy clearly didn't see the ep when Eustace apologized whole heartedly to Muriel and they make up in bed and the sweet music plays...I forget it but its so sweet...they are in love..opposites attract maybe they were arranged as was the style in the olden days and they been through so much their age has a lot to do with his bitter nature and passive aggressive old school built respect but resentment of his long time spouse...Eustace is just a jerk to everyone...that's just who he is..hes old squidward..not getting sex not having kids and not having your dreams come true will shatter your spirit...
Its kinda sad if you think it like that, Eustis probably used to be a sweet heart.
Beth and Jerry's failing marriage actually made me cry when I watched the show, it hurts to see them trying to build up pieces that are just falling apart
Lars does end up getting a redemption arc, but after that, lars's and Sadie's relationship seems to just be freinds reguardless.
which is probably the best for them. Like, other than working at the Big Donut, there really isnt anything they have in common, they dont share any hobbies, there is just not romance between them as much as sadie and lars somewhat convinced themselves there was, specially from the episode where they are stranded in an island and they kiss each other, just try to analyze their situation, they are in an island with no way to reconnect with the world, so their only option to have someone is each other, if you look at it that waym it kinda makes sense they had a moment in the island, but as soon as they are back in beach city, all that is gone.
I love how Sadie and Lars grew as the show went on, but honestly, I think they are better off as good friends than as a couple, and thats perfectly fine.
Friends *
Also, that would have been a pretty negative message to send to young people. "If you just stick it out long enough that person you are hopelessly in love with for some odd reason will finally stop treating you like shit and kinda love you back."
@@Jack1994hoo the only couple they should be in together is a a couple of friends
Indeed, I that in SU Future, they confirmed that they’re both better as friends than a couple. Especially since now Sadie has a new partner, Chef, and Lars and the Off-Color are going on more adventures in space
I'd also like to point out that Harley vanished for a while from Joker's life and he didn't seem to care either way, she was gone for a year and he didn't even seem to notice. Why did she vanish? She. Was. Pregnant. She hid their daughter from him for a reason. She left for the entire duration of her pregnancy because "his work is too important". Harleen Quinzel gave up being a psychologist to join up with him, only to go through extreme abuse, a hidden pregnancy, and more.
LatulaArts I remember that comic book that you were referring it happened in the prequel Injustice comic book.
I find it funny that he called Karen beautiful.
Her voice is though.
Her personality is beautiful
B-but it's true
She is beautiful uvu
I-its true... Yea...
So that’s why Chi-Chi is so angry all the time, it all makes sense now.
She was like that even as a kid, always abusive to goku
Moxy Girl
But still- he’s a horrible husband/father..
@@THE_MarkLeeexactly. It still impacted Gohan and Goten
@@AleTitan Didn't Goku die or something? I never watched the show, just saw the comments.
@xana7617 the video explained it also I hate anime so I wouldn’t know
Luckily sadie and Lars have gotten a lot better now
They aren't together anymore :(
olivia And that’s probably for the better.
Sadie found a new special someone
olivia anymore?
Exactly! They aren’t together anymore!
There is a theory about Dale actually knowing about Nancy's affair with John Redcorn and Joesph not being his son:
He doesn't divorce Nancy not just because she's hot and more financially stable than him, but because he's seen what divorce can do to a person, especially a childhood friend. Bill became a MESS after his divorce and would do anything for emotional connections. Dale is afraid of that happening to him so he puts up with Nancy's infidelity. But he does have the ultimate revenge in his eyes: raising Joesph as his son. Joesph looks up to Dale and not John, and Dale teaches him everything in life that he knows. He is always there for the boy for everything. John Redcorn agonizes over this but it's karma for him sleeping with another man's wife. So if this theory is true, then I understand Dale a little more now.
Yes, that theory makes a helluva lot of sense!
Wow, that, makes a lot of sense actually. Huh, go Dale.
Devilsblight86 69 likes. Nice.
An interesting theory. Dale is however an extreme Conspiracy nut, he has an incredible aversion to facts and reality (which is why he has such a breakdown when he realizes the government's official story regarding JFK's assassination is true and has a personality flip), refusing to accept the fact he's the guy with a green hat (A Chinese euphemism for someone who's being cheated on) isn't unsurprising. However being in denial and knowing that they're cheating but refusing to admit it to himself at a conscious level is in keeping with his personality.
I'm so glad you mentioned the Joker/Harley relationship. While I love the cartoon and find their dysfunctional relationship to be interesting, it absolutely sickens me how people romanticize it. The Joker is a heartless bastard. Love him or hate him, he only cares about himself. He has no soft spots, no desire to do good,
he doesn't mean well, etc. His whole character is about how much joy he takes from hurting and killing others. He's not going to make an exception for Harley. He doesn't see her as his equal and goes out of his way to tear her down whenever she has a moment where she feels happy for herself or anything else.
You don't want a Joker/Harley relationship. You shouldn't want to abuse your partner. You shouldn't want to not see them as your equal. You shouldn't want to tear them down when they're feeling good. You shouldn't want someone to belittle you. You shouldn't want someone to manipulate you. You shouldn't want someone who treats you like Joker treats Harley, and you shouldn't want to act like a Joker to your s.o.
Sorry for the rant, it's just.... disgusting lmao.
I absolutely agree.
I'm honestly terrified that people aim for that kind of relationship.. It just reminds me that there is so much abusiveness in this world.
Yeah it’s disturbing 😶 reminds me of how people do that with Sam and Freddie given they were portrayed as toxic too and Sam never TRIED to improve herself 😅
NAH GO OFF SIS
Btw I use Sis in a gender neutral way-
It's okay, I 100% agree and I would've said the same.
"we're not gonna include anime couples"
5 minutes later
"goku and chi-chi from dragon ball"
Right, I was confused by that lol
I think its because certain animes have been so integrated into western popular culture that they don't come off as anime (if that makes sense).
“sadie and lars”
*future steven universe episodes laugh, “you were wrong”*
Phanic! AtCrybabysDragRace ?
It’s his opinion
It was made 2 years, maybe he saw that Lars changed
Don’t touch Meh food Oh yeah oof
Im so glad he got such a well developed redemption arch
The whole "Goku never kissed his wife!" thing is a HUGE mistranslation error. Basically, Goku being the doof that he is thought Vegeta was talking about something else. Remember that Japanese is a high context language. If you are naive or dumb enough (like Goku), you can misunderstand a LOT of things...and that was the joke of the scene. The issue is that the joke didn't translate to English (a low context language).
That's true, there have been a few inconsistencies with translations over the years so that does sound about right.
Which is weird because it's implied that he kisses his wife when he leaves to go fight the androids after he wakes up from being sick from the heart virus
Also in Goku's defence, he does show some care for Chi Chi when he gets all pissed after Goku Black tells him how he killed Chi-Chi and Goten and in the beginning of Z they seem to have been living as a happy family during the five year skip. After all the Saiyans came, he is a lot more neglectful of his wife since its always about protecting the Earth or fighting strong but he doesn't necessarily run away.
Well, I agree that Goku isn't a "bad" husband, but he's certainly not "good"; And I don't blame him.
GOKU WAS TRICKED INTO MARRIAGE!...and probably into his first ever sexual experience, 😰! Then you add onto that chi Chi's constant yelling and intimidation, and her domination of Gohan's childhood and future career path...
Chi chi is a control freak who married an illiterate hick with a literal retarded I.Q. (probably around 80-90 for rationality and language), and so owned her firstborns life that he grew up without friends his age!
Chi chi is fucking horrible, and it's no wonder everyone is afraid of her! 🤪
Same for Eustace n muriel but Arnold's grandparents
I love how you called Karen beautiful even though she’s a computer
There's nothing wrong with that she is beautiful
I see her pretty beautiful too, and i dont know why (?
It's the personality. Seriously, she SHINES with her dry wit, sharp mind, and, as the man says, ENDLESS patience. That's the kind of beauty that leaves you with the "I don't know why but I can't stop thinking about her" feeling.
She thicc
It's not just appearance I guess
Chi Chi: I'm pregnant again
Goku: *disappears for 7 years*
My friend loves Goku and I don't get why .-.
@@someweirdlumpofmeat158 I love Goku too lol. But I have to admit, he is a lousy father and a horrible husband. I wish they developed Chi Chi and Goku's relationship.
I mean he died cause of cell and he chose to stay dead to prevent anything bad happen to the earth again but I get what you mean
@@SaltyBanjos dont try to use logic with them. TFS made so many people think he's a shitty dad and they wont think others wise, even when TFS themselves think that canon goku is a good father and husband and hates that thier parody is taken as gospel now.
@@SkeletonsfromHell welp I tried can't beat them join them
*THAT WAS FOR MAH DICK*
Harley Quinn actually has stockholm snydrom.
Its a phenonem, mostly linked to a post-traumatic-disorder, that often appears in abusiv relationships or hostage takings. The victim oftne believe that this is what it deserves, often even sympathizes with the aggresor or romatizes them.
I actually had someone as my best friends with diagnosted stockholm snydrom, his girlfriend was highly abusiv and cheated on him in regular bases. As he finally realized how bad this relationship was, he even attempted suicide. His stockholm syndrom was caused by his childhood, his mum married to a highly absusiv man himself, a really violent alcoholic who even killed his mother.
Pretty sad story... I get really angry when I see post like ''I want a relationship like Joker and Harley.'' Like... No... No, you dont.
Hello there. I'm sorry for what happened to your friend, but something needs clarifying here. Harley and the Joker have a horrible, HORRIBLY toxic relationship--but it's not Stockholm syndrome. Your friend didn't have that either, unless he was literally held prisoner, trafficked, or abducted by that ex-girlfriend.
Stockholm syndrome is when a prisoner falls in love with their captor. The Joker was previously held at Arkham, which puts him in the "prisoner" role--but Harley was his psychiatrist. She was not a jailer, nor did he love her as much as she did. However she was still manipulated into breaking him out. When the captor falls in love with their captive, that is Lima Syndrome. This does not apply to them, either--because again, Harley was doing her job as a psychiatrist beforehand. It's closer, though.
What they all went through is just a byproduct of abuse. That ex was horrible, but neither syndrome can apply without (un)lawful incarceration, a hostage situation, or a kidnapping. Stockholm syndrome can be abusive in relationships, but not all abusive relationships involve Stockholm syndrome. Again, I'm sorry.
There's a syndrom fitting to Harley's obsession. Have you not watched Back to the Future ?
The doctor falls in love with the patient = Florence Nightingale syndrome
+Suzette C. *Bingo.* ♥ If that question is directed at me, I have not.
I'm so sorry. I had a friend who was in an mental abusive relationship. Thankfully, he is no longer in that relationship but the damage is already done.
R/thathappened
Saberspark: Joker and Harley Quinn are in an abusive relationship.
Me: IT'S TRUE AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT.
Careful, you might upset the 14-year old girls
@Stout Shako SYA IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
@@KraylebStudios I honestly don’t get why anyone thinks their relationship is healthy.
@@cryptid176 If it's a straight ship, it automatically goes under the healthy category lmao
@@KraylebStudios for some goddamn reason. I mean look at 50 shades! It’s obviously abusive yet people still seem to love it
I really don't get how people can view Harley and Joker as being the goal for a relationship. I don't even read the comics but I KNOW it's canon that Harley comes to see HERSELF that it was an abusive situation when she gets herself out of it.
I just don't get people.
I think the biggest thing people miss about that "relationship" is that they are both, literally, insane. The Joker is who knows how many levels of crazy and managed to seduce/mentally break his own therapist and turn her into Harley. Loving or hating the characters themselves is a personal thing, but yes, I think more people need to put up the DO NOT TAKE DATING ADVICE FROM INSANE MURDERERS posters...
"I want a relationship like The Joker and Harley Quin!" Do they realize The Joker abuses Harley?
To the point where almost killed on her multiple occasions.
Harley and ivy are so much better
I have a head canon that Bob and Miriam struggled to conceive and ended up with their miracle baby Olga. Then were surprised by an unwanted second baby.
I like Beth and Jerry's relationship because it seems realistic. They know they're disfunctional and run back to each other. The show does a good job of portraying a bad relationship and how the family's messed up because of it
One reason why I like Rick and overlook his many faults is that he will never let Jerry forget that he entrapped Beth with a teen pregnancy. Seeing him crap on Jerry is cathartic, and anytime Jerry gets a win over Rick, like the season 2 and 3 finale, gets under my skin. Beth isn't entirely perfect herself. Nobody on the show is except maybe Bird Person. But I find Jerry to be exceptionally miserable and loathsome.
@JoeRingo118 It's not a masterplan, it's a very simple plan. Something a simple guy like Jerry could think of and delude himself into thinking it's no big deal. That's not really bias, that's not liking the kind of person Jerry is.
Yeah I love the smart writing in that show
Honestly, Beth and Jerry’s relationship seems all too real, after what my parents went through.
Do you remenber that time when Sadie kidnap Lars and Steven? Yeah, me too.
Island Adventure right?
Yep
For Drew and Charlotte I think it was intentional that their relationship is bad, cus it shows why Angelica is so spoiled and why she acts out. Having a neglectful mother who is always at work and never there for her, and a dad who spoils her to make up for it but doesnt actually know how to parent her properly. Rugrats was honestly pretty deep for what it was, it showed so many different family dynamics. Chuckie being from a single parent household with a single father trying to raise him on own being another one.
i recently saw an ad for a new harley quinn show thats gonna be airing on amazon prime, and im pretty sure its gonna be about her finally realizing she doesnt need joker anymore and that shes done being put down by him
idk bout yall but im pretty hype about it
*yAAssssS-*
It’s pretty good
I think there was something about her being back with Ivy too which is amazing
Did he just call Karen beautiful?
Did you just imply she's not?
She thick though. Her RAM is huge, anyone would go after that.
angel nike robots deserve no rights
Yes i mean look at that face XD
Well she is computer, and I assume she has internet so.....
“We see Karen rolling her eyes”
She doesn’t have any...
Stop it you heard the man, she's beautiful
202cardline XD
We *f e e l* karen roll her eyes
we can still sense it
Wait so the Karen became good...??!!?
Saberspark : "We're not talking about anime."
Also Saberspark : "So, about Dragonball..."
Dude, wtf ?
"HE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK AFTER HIS OWN KID!! I LOOK AFTER HIS KID MORE THEN HE DOES" ~ abridged piccolo
No. 6
You forgot to mention that there was an episode where plankton deactivates Karen to date Mr Krabs’ mum. I feel like that shows how bad he is in a relationship.
Damn I totally forgot about that, wow... wow... that's dark.
Expendable Indigo what about that episode that he REPLACED her with a “younger piece of equipment” jeez this guy sucks
And that episode was made at the time spongebob went downhill after the first movie😣
For the love of GOD, the Joker And Harley Quinn's " relationship " is NOT a relationship, but an extreme case of " Stockholm Syndrome ". She is obsessive/falsely in-love with the one who captured and brainwashed her. The Joker CLEARLY has shown zero feelings for her nor does he ever recognize them as any sort of couple, she's his sidekick. One-sided Stockholm. It's already had a meme made in response to the people who call it a relationship and it's people saying what I just said, the fact that it's an extreme case of Stockholm Syndrome.
gasai yuno I wouldn't say zero feeling, he seemed pretty rattled that she was causing mischief with Poison Ivy.
said by Gasai Yuno, the irony.
James Moran I think that's less love for harlequin and more obsessive possessiveness
@@1987bisdann agreed with what yuno said
I think some people just saw fan art or only watched Suiside Squad.
Goku and Chichi: They’re better off as childhood friends than as a couple.
That's stupid
I’d like but 69.
I like how mortys parent's hate each other and don't give a shit about the weird alien portals
blaze yogurt Jerry does but Beth doesn't care that her family goes through life threatening adventures between dimensions she just whines and bitches saying that she doesn't want Rick to leave her again.
Star Pit lol
And how there're two graves on their backyard yet they didn't question it lol.
I wonder if they ask Rick about that... woo boi.
Adam Mocha: No they didn't. Season 3 hasn't aired yet.
Adam Mocha: I'm almost thirty, I don't watch livestreams. The Seuzhuan chicken sauce episode was great though. It was on Adult Swim for a week straight.
The whole Pataki family was so screwed up in Hey Arnold. I remember one episode where Olga was gonna marry some guy she'd been dating for a really short time, and Bob was like, "Maybe you should wait a little longer to make sure you really want to do this?" and Miriam was like, _"You won't want to."_ Heh, it was funny, but also sad. The show also implied on at least one occasion that Helga thought her parents would be happier if she wasn't around. There was one episode where she dreamed she had been erased from existence, and her parents were suddenly all lovey-dovey and giddy with each other. It was really depressing, actually. (Also, damn, that show had some good writing.)
I feel like Oskar and Suzie Kokoshka from Hey Arnold should get a shout-out too. Remember how Oskar was a lazy bum who couldn't hold down a job and expected Suzie to do everything for him, and then whined when she didn't have time to pay attention to him? And how Suzie was constantly stressed and worn out all the time? Yeah, they were a mess. I remember one episode where Suzie finally kicked Oskar out, and Arnold tried to get them back together, and all I could think was, "Hmm, Arnold, sweetie, I know you want the world to be all sunshine and butterflies, but maybe you should stay out of this one."
Also, ugh, Family Guy. I have to say, that clip at the beginning of Lois beating the crap out of Peter is just really not funny. I know Peter's an asshole and probably deserves it, but still. I'm so sick of these shows that think that just because it's a woman beating a man, that makes it funny - or at the very least, acceptable. Because women are supposed to be the weak ones, right? And a guy who gets beat up by a woman must be a pussy? Hahaha*NO.*
Arnold's grandparents and Gerald's family were pretty good, loving families though.
Dachusblot Hey Arnold really is one of the most underrated cartoons of all time. The themes and issues the show went through were amazing and I enjoyed the cartoon for childish reasons growing up. Now though as an adult, I honestly love the show more.
THANK YOU for reminding me of Suzie and Oskar! Oskar was so awful! Even as a kid, I hated him and wanted SO much better for Suzie! Wish she would have gotten it!
the joker and harley is supposed to be a showcase for bad relationships, that's on of the reasons why the latest movie glorifying their sick and abusive relationship was so bad. It's not supposed to be something that people desire. Also you should've talked more about how good of a narrative point it was for Beth and Jerry to be separated, for being the number 2 on your list it was weird how such a logical decision wouldn't get more praise from a reviewer like you.
Adriaan Sluijs I think the list was made before season 3 really got going, when only the first episode of that season had been revealed. Otherwise, I just know Saber would've called bullshit on what happened in the season 3 finale
yeah that's true.
Adriaan Sluijs do yiu mean suicide squad?if you do the relation of those two was not at all like the other versions
I would've said Orels parents from Moral Orel for #1.
If it makes you feel any better, Lars is redeemed and Sadie dates someone else.
knuckles & knuckles is a good couple
Knuckles the guardian fucking knuckles and knuckles best MVP couple along with knuckles and knuckles
holy fuckles it's knuckles
+Thomas Has A Thing For Memes I'm gonna have to start using "holy fuckles" more often.
&knuckles
Knuckles the guardian Knuckles X The Chaos Emerald
I feel like some of the people who ship Harley and Joker and want a relationship have a twisted view of what Dom/Subs relationships are like. Some people actually get off on hurting others or getting hurt.
Me and my girlfriend have a relationship about that, you just need a safe word, a bit of trust, and some boundaries.
Yeah, DSM relationships aren’t supposed to incorporate actual abuse.
The sheep idolizing HQ clearly don’t understand that a person needs to have a sense of identity and self worth to be in a positive DSM relationship. HQ is mentally unstable but silly women think she’s a good role model.
Not the show’s fault.
I think they just watched Suiside Squad and never watched Batman the Animated Series.
As a masochist, I don't find their relationship sexually appealing. While some individuals do derive sexual pleasure from pain, that does not mean that all pain or a constant abusive lifestyle is what most masochists want. In a healthy BDSM relationship, though the sadist or dominant seems to be in control, the masochist or submissive has the power to say no. In abusive relationships one partner has all the power.
I think a more accurate title would be "Top 10 Most UNHEALTHY Cartoon Couples."
The word 'worst' might give the wrong idea.
Some of these couples were purposefully written as unhealthy relationships to show what a bad couple looks like in order to make the show as a whole stronger.
Many relationships are hard and hurtful, and certain shows want to make that clear. The idea of showcasing a bad couple isn't a terrible idea in general, as depending on the couple it can make the show more effective.
But saying "worst" implies that the couple brings the whole show down.
(To be fair though, a couple of your choices do fall in that category.)
Your reasons of why you picked these couples are spot on though, I'm just giving advice title-wise.
I agree. I mean, the Patakis were written as being unhealthily dysfunctional. It builds a pretty good idea of how this family came to exist. A very successful Miriam dropped out of college to marry Bob, and had Olga when she was very young. As time went on, Bob lost interest in Miriam and was more interested in building up his beeper emporium. His only other interest was Olga, who had inherited Miriam's good looks and was on her way to being incredibly successful. Then, when Olga was eleven or twelve, Miriam fell pregnant again. Bob wanted her to have an abortion, but Miriam refused. By the time Olga was twelve, Helga was born, but since her family was preoccupied with her older sister, she was very overshadowed. As such, the all-important family bonds a child needs were not there, and so Helga ended up forming a different attachment: an attachment to the first person who acted like she mattered. Technically, her obsessive behaviour and aggression come from her family, but not only that - if they'd been a supportive network like a family is supposed to, she never would have fallen so hard for Arnold.
Mirth Mouser very naicu osomatsu san prof pic
I love this comment.
OverWatchJojo
Why thank you. :3
This is semantics no on needs.
The Courage The Cowardly Dog one is those grandparents, the nice sweet grandma, and the sour “always bickering” grandpa
It's my grandparents but reversed. My grandmother is the bitter one.
The Joker is a toxic boyfriend? Who would have guessed.
Dontcha wanna *rev up yer Harley* !
Because throwing your girlfriend off of a building because you no longer need her isnt abusive?
6:19 She's literally a talking TV.
Or do you have a secret fetish that we dont know about? XD
GalaxyDiva I think he was joking... just a bit.
n m so... Still no
Other characters in the show call Karen beautiful so does Plankton.
Anyone else watching this after Lars went pinko psycho?
Me
Me
Me
me
GalaxyWarp Studios *if Lars is not dead*
Sadie and Lars I’m pretty sure aren’t a couple, I thought it was Sadie just having a crush on Lars and them being friends
Exactly
Normal weddings: you may kiss the bride
Goku's wedding: you may not kiss the bride
😅😅
Isn't Lars going though a redemption arc now?
He started making this video way before the Wanted special.
Octavia Hutchens most likely. It'd be funny as fuck if he was still an ass
Caleb Dearing
So its ALREADY outdated?
Shirt and add that Beth and Jerry divorced last season...
SPOILERS!!! yeah he starting to become better as a person...
and pink
Octavia Hutchens yeah but Lars has been getting better currently, not his and Sadie's relationship. Currently at this point their relationship still isn't that great.
For the Lars and Sadie thing, for most of the show there is no relationship, just Sadie wishing there were a relationship.
Also, you ignore the fact that Sadie deliberately did not tell Lars or Steven about the way off of the island, because she was enjoying Lars's relying on her in their situation.
And isn't Sadie canonically an adult?
Amber Rogers Sadie is 16-17 years old in the show.
88michaelandersen yes very toxic and dysfunctional
"And that lars will have some kind of redemtion arc"
i guess death counts
Your point on how people weirdly want a relationship like Joker and Harley is so good and I’ve been confused on it myself. Someone I know who actively calls her boyfriend “her joker” told me it’s because of how much they rely on eachother and I had to go into an explanation how Joker basically just drove her insane to have a psychotic obsession with the Joker. He just uses her. The fact that she feels so strongly that she needs the Joker despite the negative consequences makes it seem like he’s literally an addiction. And I don’t care how much she needs him, if you want a relationship exactly like one where the guy threw the girl out of a two story window, there’s something wrong
Truer words have never been spoken! Couldn't have said it better myself!
So true
how about one where the girl threw the guy out of a two story window
*bingo bongo*
cenzikyeww
*Bingo Bongo?*
Jakayla Macon Lars's catchphrase
HELL YEAS
*🅱ingo 🅱ongo*
*ngo ngo*
Goku and Chi-Chi
Chi-Chi: I'm pregnant
Goku: I'ma go die now
(From TFS Broly Special) [Chichi]: I want a divorce. [Goku]: Me, too! I'm starving!
Ok, I get Lars is kinda a jerk... but Sadie kinda stranded him in an island, and there was the whole fire donut thing.
So um. I have no idea what’s going on with them.
Tea Time
well steven universe future answered that question
They got better and the cool kids are in sadies crew now
I wouldn't necessarily call it a Lars redemption ark.
There's a bit of a difference between a character changing their ways and a character developing and opening up as to why.
Lars is a jerk but he's also very insecure and has fears for being looked at as something or someone else in a certain way.
Later he develops and opens up the fact that he was afraid of what was going on, only wanting to not be a coward because he knew he was.
I personally believe Lars was just a bit misunderstood in a way but his actions and intentions were different because of what lead him to do so.
Overall, he was a jerk but he's also grown character and courage.(My apologies if it just sounded stupid but I had trouble trying to explain what I meant as it's just my own personal opinion.)
that makes sense.
Hey at least you explained it a lot better than most.
Others go "REEEE YOU DONT KNOW THE SHOW LUL"
I was always empathetic towards Helga. Cartoons like Hey Arnold do a good job of reflecting situations in the real world.
And that's when you start thinking about how great it would've been an episode about the backstory of Muriel and Eustace.
"Peter cheats on Lois"
Shows us a still image of the episode where Peter is forced to have s*x with his boss, also Louis was aware of that one. But laughs at the idea of a man getting raped by a woman... It's up to you if you want to believe that.
I think jerry and beth are the best example of a bad couple, the show knows it's bad. And it's a reoccurring plot point whether or not they should stay together, and when they finally DO divorce, it's satisfying to see them both get out of their toxic relationship.
Still sad for morty though.
aperture AI#2020 ohhh weeee Jerry is getting around a redemption arc now
aperture AI#2020 I personally disagree seeing how Jerry's life is without the family is heart breaking and Beth's clearly not coping well
You do know that they mostly going to get back together at some point. Right?
Karen: smart, beautiful
That's wholesome
Karen's in 2020: *rude and annoying*
Karen is literally a screen
"My fault... I didn't get the joke..." I remember watching that episode for the first time as a young kid, and it really weirded me out. Like, not in a way that something like The Adventures Of Mark Twain did where the imagery was so odd sometimes, but in a way where it felt surreal to just behold. You didn't really... you didn't see stuff that blantantly toxic very often. And as I'm older, I now think that this episode is kind of beautiful for that. They showed how truly horrible the two were together, and didn't let up on it at all. It's amazing.
And yet these couples are better than Twilight
old meme
Jim's numba 1 fan still good ;3
Sorry pal those times are gone
Dude it's a dead franchise let it go.
Dead meme
The number 1 worst cartoon couple is...
your favorite cartoon couple
Robert S Clark and having a life
Robert S Clark I screamed
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I knew it was coming when I didnt want it to
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH
number one best couple though is...
Tiny squidward x pickle XD
**claps**
Ik that episode
Masterpiece best couple ever
Oh yes... 😢👏👏
still a better love story than twilight
3:04
Steven Universe Future: Ahaha, jokes on you, Sadie is actually in a relationship with **spoilers** and Lars is now **spoilers**
@MemeAzim Likes MSM And Brawl Stars the spoilers for Lars was Lars is now a better person with character development from-yeah the space thing
I think we shouldn't mix things up. Most of these "Relationship Goals: Joker+Harley" - people never saw the cartoons or even held a comic in their hands. The misconception of these two started only because of the depiction in Suicide Squad.
Drawn to Fun that depiction was long before Suicide Squad it was called out around the time Suicide Squad came out
The Harley-Joker fandom has existed since her inception in the cartoon. I have no idea where you got the idea that no one romaticized them before that. Harley is canon in comics and by that her relationship to the Joker and its popularity had nothing to do with Suicide Squad.
Yeah, of course, Suicide Squad with a Domestic Total Gross of 325 Million Dollar has
absolutly nothing to do with the popularity of these two characters,
especially on Comic-Fan-Only sites like Facebook and Twitter.
Drawn to Fun When I saw suicide squad, I literally said to my boyfriend "Wow, this is the nicest Ive ever seen The Joker be to Harley."
Drawn to fun He meant Suicide Squad had nothing to do with them even having popularity at all. They had an already massive popularity before, Suicide Squad just made it slightly more popular. Now Guardians of the Galaxy, I'm pretty sure their movie gave them the bulk of their popularity.
4:27 You predicted the future
Steve Pensando he sees in the futur or whatever?
He may be secretly a Saphire
And, after all, his redemption happened off screen 🤦
Rhaegar It didn't? Tf?
@@Who-vd3iv
I think you are forgetting what Lars did before he died.
Harley Quinn and Joker is a terrible relationship, and I'm so glad that someone else sees that.
For real. So many have said they want a relationship like Harley and Joker 🤦♀️ Oh so you want an awfully abusive relationship?
Musicianess the only worse one is Eridan and Feferi am i right
I had a friend last year who said she wanted a relationship like the Joker and Harley Quinn's and I told her the joker threw Harley out a window once.
And how did she react?
@@Han_Niche she ignored it honestly
@@pierrotlehonque5084 d a r n
Lars kinda has a redemption arc in the Wanted marathon
Jenna Hart You need to understand these vid take weeks to make
Drill Knight76 I know they do hun, just decided to point it out tho, but yes I agree with Saber tho for everything we've seen atm their relationship isn't the best but like he said it might grow/it's not a finished story
Jenna Hart I never hated Lars, he seems relatable
okamilover99999 that's victim blame
okamilover99999 The one thing I think people overlook is that Sadie is pretty controlling and a lot of that comes from her mother and how she's controlling of her. she does it out of love, but it's a definite flaw I'm sure they'll work on.
HAVE YOU SEEN LARS N O W.
HE IS...A S P A C E P I R A T E.
but he and Sadie are still a shit couple
*SPACE PIRATE*
*bingo bongo*
Pudding?
Jayson Towner don't know
Karin: and smart BEAUTIFUL and patient...
How can a computer be beautiful?
Lillian Brunette it's a cartoon anything can be possible in cartoons
How can a painting of a landscape be beautiful, or a sculpture?
@@the_last_ballad or the internet?!?
*sshhh. Don't worry PC. You're beautiful to me*
Saberspark: Number 1, Joker.
Me: :D Finally, someone who understands this terrible, abusive, toxic relationship!
11:15 Thankfully, they got a divorce.
Travis Retriever they might get back together
Travis Retriever
furry
I sure am.
As much as I want to say, "this is best for the both of them" its not right to ask for a divorce when so much else happened in the show. Lets not forget:
- They saw a life where they weren't married and found a reason that they truly loved each other in the end.
- Their relationship is actually healthy for their kids, its actually Rick that messes around with the kids and causes a good 50% of the messes that rise up. In an episode in season three (spoilers!!) Beth isn't as good at handling the kids as Jerry is.
In the case of Jerry and Beth, the creators want to show a more dysfunctional couple that replicates a real world couple with thoughts and beliefs that might not always see eye to eye. Also, I'm just waiting to see if they get back together. Beth isn't doing well. Jerry isn't doing well. Its a possibility.
i mean honestly they were getting better in the end of the last episode with their arc
Will you do a 10 Worst Parents? I'm curious of what characters you cjoose at that topic ☺
Haha top i think Fairy odd parents Timmys parents are number 1.
Wow it's almost like the creators of Rick and Morty made them hate each other for a reason like they were planning a divorced to use as a plot device oh wait
Just because he's including it doesn't mean he hates its very existence.
Kimi FW *wooshing sound goes over your head* oops, i guess that was the point of the comment
Common SENSE sure i am
Common SENSE alright then
Common SENSE you don't need to keep on replying you know, nobody's forcing you
Yall ever come back after a show ends and see that relationships like Sadie and Lars didn't happen and just smile
yes! yes I have many times what about you
*Goodbye everyone, I'll remember you all in therapy!*
*see Sadie and Lars*
Me: _b-but REDEMPTION ARC_
The Doggo same 😂
1.-This was made before the Wanted special
2.-Sadie was a bitch to him in Island Adventure and she is so abossesed with him
3.-They are still a shit couple
She just screwed up in Island Adventure I wouldnt call her obsessed. But thats my opinion
and the episode with ungle granpda made the ship sink
The Doggo but they are not even a couple
There used to be a kind soul in Eustace, but being under cruel people turned him the same way, sadly.
We find out that Muriel was a bit of a bratty kid, and Eustace was very timid. They changed a lot over the years, and I imagine that they met somewhere in the middle.
I think this should have been titled least compatible cartoon couples. I wouldn't call some of these bad, it could add to charm or plot relevance (like Helga being a bully). But some like Peter and Lois deserve to be called bad
Mr Simpleton Yes, that's what I thought
The show is really hey Helga instead of hey Arnold
Sadie, just has a huge crush on Lars, but Lars is a bit of a tsundere, and he just wants to look cool for the cool kids, who don't care if he is cool, they just accept him into their friend group anyways, but Lars doesn't see that. Lars obviously is scared, scared that Sadie won't like him, scared that the cool kids won't accept him, so he thinks that if he acts one way, he will be accepted.
Why so many commas, dude?
Why not, bro?
since when did classifing yourself as an anime trope justify being an asshat >:|
The awkward thing about when I watch Steven Universe is the fact that my name is Sadie 😂
That is their first impression. But at last it looks like Lars is really not interested in Sadie. And Sadie can be really demanding
I agree with Chi chi and Goku...but I see it COMPLETELY the opposite.
Goku is an alien that was dropped on his head as a child, and was "raised" in the woods mostly by himself. He didnt even know what a girl was until Bulma showed up. Goku was never properly socialized and still lacks knowledge of a lot of things normal humans know almost instinctively.
Chi Chi was only into Goku because he was strong, and if I'm remembering correctly, tricked Goku into marriage (I think he thought it was a food?) OF COURSE he doesn't know what a kiss is! I'm mostly convinced he has NO idea how his children even came to be, and Chi Chi tricked him by telling him they were wrestling or something...Goku is like a child in a man's body and its played for comedy most of the time, but if you spend too much time thinking about it the implications are preeetty fuuuuucked.
finalhikari and it all cuz of chi chi. Normal girl would have found a normal guy who knew stuff but not her. She went with a man child who had no clue. She has no right to get upset cuz she the one who went to him! He trying his best and dies a lot saving the earth.
finalhikari what are you talking about Goku was raised by his adopted human grandfather. In the earlier episodes of Dragon Ball Goku ship landing on Earth and when he got out of it he was a raving lunatic baby yes a baby and he hit his head and calmed down. When he was knocked out he woke up in an old man's house who later adopted him as his grandson so he did grow up civilize. And Goku who obviously met and seen some women in the village some other kids he knew what a woman was he just didn't know what they had sex binary wise. Cuz his grandfather never had the sex talk with him that's why when Vegeta ask him how you don't know what a kiss is?(dragon ball super)Goku couldn't give a clear answer because nobody had that special talk with him.
I'm aware of Grandpa Gohan's existence. I said he was /mostly/ raised in the woods by himself for a reason. After he accidentally killed Grandpa Gohan, Goku was left alone for some undetermined amount of time. Also, I'm pretty sure they did NOT live in a village. Almost positive. They lived in a shack out in the woods, by itself. And I'm also pretty sure Goku even says at one point that he had NEVER heard of a girl until he met Bulma Its been awhile since Ive watched/read Dragon Ball, but I remember Goku thinking "Girl" was a food was a joke or something. The only thing Grandpa Gohan taught Goku was martial arts and how to be a good guy.
Also, he didn't randomly wake up at Grandpa Gohan's house, Gohan found him while he was a crazy asshole baby, and he was the one who accidentally dropped him into the ravine and made Goku simple/less murderous
that and she view him as a means to have children. she probably only wanted kids and use him mostly as such. after all there wasn't many men for her to chose from if im remembering correctly
THANK YOU for calling out Joker and Harley as a couple. I'm soooo tired of hearing people praise them as a "power couple" and ignore the obvious abuse present in the comics and beyond.