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Santiago: "Let us get to the origins of violence and sow the seeds of peace in soil of hate" Literally everyone else: "Wanna read books and sing on a boat that's gone adrift for 3 months?"
Santiago: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Horny strangers can't just get along with sensible ideas of how to deal with the tension of boredom and danger! REEEEEEEEEEEE!
silly man, the answer is simple , what causes violence is inequality, once the individuals rises above the rest, feeling of envy and inferiority grip the rest and the rest are forced to response with crab mentality, the individual has initiated competition , on a boat there are no resources their is no private property so the individual can never even begin to arise , because the boat is already owned , but lets they were stuck on a island with no ownership on resources, as soon as the first person begins to cut the tree to Build a tool, violence will arise, because again the individual has initiated competition for the "crime" of seeking, at which point they are no longer equal, the tool maker is ahead in the race.
50's-70's psychologists really missed that methodology lesson about 'make sure your experiments test FOR a hypothesis rather than try and ASSUME a hypothesis'.
I mean to be fair assuming a hypothesis then working backwards to try to prove that hypothesis is still alive and well, isn’t that right Flat Earthers?
There are no "pure sciences" by that logic,as the personal situation of the observer cannot be fully abstracted, an example is Eistein saying black holes were impossible,even though his equations proved their existance
That's pretty much the modern world. Having a nice cruise on the sea and ending in Mexico, delightful. Put a scientist on board, it becomes a living nightmare 😂
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 God also gave us a world with hunger, disease, earthquakes, storms, etc. a world where humans are constantly traumatized and their resources smashed by forces they have little control over.
Authority is powerful. probably one of the most under studied aspects of human sociology. It's mind boggling just what average would let a person in authority do to them or their peers.
World peace is unachievable. But the friendships you make with different people are definitely the closest you can get to that. That's why I love my Serbian, Kenyan, German and Canadian friends so much 😂
You know, the fact that genoves was apparently the only one who actually felt "emasculated" having to take orders from a woman explains a lot about this.
This is the Antman phase of Jack's cinematic universe. Wait until he covers something big like the Punic War or something and brings all these obscure characters back together.
I have no idea how the crew was able to put up with his b******* for so long, like seriously why didn't they just tie him up then sail to the nearest Port once he became crazy
Well, I think, the irony is that he did find the cause of violence. Not necessarily sex, but people seeking others to do their bidding and pushing them down. He was the cause.
That's what I thought to be interesting. It showed the anger a control freak gets when things don't go their way and how everything must be laid out perfectly to their own wants and perceptions. It also gave the answer. The way to world peace is to just not give a crap and let people be. If what they do starts hurting or affecting you, then resolve it.
Pretty much. Perhaps the causes of violence in people is more complex and illogical than people think. I just find it interesting that these experiments seem to show that humans can easily get along and work together in extreme circumstances.
@@Nostripe361 People who do these experiments really overestimate how quickly humans turn to violence (and in Santiago's case, he also overestimated how horny people are lol). They all seem to assume that someone will immediately murder another person the moment they annoy each other.
@@CollinBuckman yeah they all seemed to have this Hobbesian world view that without civilization, people would go insane and start raping and murdering each other. Completely ignoring that any species that self destructive would have gone extinct before the idea of a government could have even been thought up.
@@Nostripe361 for sure, weird assumption to make that government and other forms of organization arose to combat our bad instincts instead of assuming that organization is the outgrowth of a cooperative species.
I mean if you tried to pull this today I'd imagine Santiago would've been proven correct within the first week at sea. Humans are most definitely very violent creatures but only when they've experienced hardship and conflict for a very large amount of their lives, recent college grads of the 1970's are most definitely not going to be that crowd however, they're entire reason to do anything is so that they aren't shipped to Vietnam or thanking their stars that Vietnam ended before they could be shipped off.
I love how early on Jack felt the need to mention that this guy was friends with racist norwegian raft man, really sets a precedent for boat shenanigans
@@JackRackam we can't ignore that Santiago's hypothesis had absolutelly nothing to do with sailing, did he just think isolation was best when experienced in boats?!
Not just "some guy", the Governor of Louisiana. Altho, admittedly, the governor didn't particularly want to, and they both thought the whole thing was a big fun joke.
So, in conclusion, this experiment proved one thing: Shared hardships create bonds between people, except for the one guy responsible for all of those hardships because his stubborn pride and confirmation bias was more important than human lives. Great job Santiago. 👏
Yes! I was just listening to a podcast about this. I love that a lot fringe science in the 70's mirrored the ideals of heroic medicine in the 1800's. So much crazy shit.
Well, 70’s is like turmoil era. Political extremism (Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, and such) , plane hijackings, rebellions, and economic downturn (Oil Crisis).
So ironically he did achieved a small "proof" that world peace can happen since all the people on the boat just became more or less friends and had a good time with each other,in general. Also yeah he also overestimated humans "savagery" and "horniness"
If he did the experiment today with 4 incels and 6 feminists who hate men, then he probably would've gotten the results he expected from 10 mentally stable and healthy people
The thing is Violence happens in humanity based less on s*x as with animals (though that happens a lot just not replicable in lab setting unless you are unethical) and more on fear of lossing something usually in country scale Resources, sovreignty, National Identity or in individual form Freedom, Money, a Job ect.
@@balazscsotai8354 I predict that would create entrenchment from both sides at least at 1st, I mean Both have aspects of hating the other based on gender so they will split into 2 groups, however over time if the 2 open up they may work together in a raft that needs constant maintainance. (people often drop distrust and violence if the situation calls for elimimating a problem that effects them and the enemy, basically the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend at least till the Common enemy is dealt with)
Ironically, had he looked deeper he might have actually drawn some interesting conclusions from this experiment. For instance, as he felt his position of power as the experimenter was being threatened, he drew closer to violence, and it took a near death experience to shake him from the path, and make him realize he was incompetent. That thought becomes very interesting applied to world leaders, regardless of political affiliation. ... Also, it would just be funny to put a bunch of politicians on a boat and set them adrift. But maybe that says more about my delusions than anything.
@@d.n5287 90% of the US Senators look like they would break their neck from slipping on a banana peel. But humans are weird as hell, look at Micheal Mallory. The guy was like 60 and lived getting run over multiple times and left out in the freezing cold. Between the world leaders though, I would say Putin. Cause Russians.
Man trying to isolate the variables that are factors for human violence creates an attempted sex raft to see what’ll stick. (Spoiler: Santiago being a total nuisance is the variable)
i think the experiment was a huge success. we discovered through this process that violence stems from people with perverted sense of their ego and a lack of understanding towards other people. in my opinion it stems primarily from a lack of better communication and problem solving skills. it is so funny that santiago was the only person on that boat who allowed the world to observe this fact.
The only things I'm brave enough to venture into the 20th century for: - Mad lads from the world wars - Teddy Roosevelt - Random dudes in the 70s going off their rocker and bringing everyone else down with them
Every time I dip into Polish history I've gotta come up against something like Władysław, but it seems like once you get a hang of the letters it's pretty consistent... I hope
You've probably seen it before but try to get "Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, Chrząszczyżewoszycach, powiat Łękołody" right and no language will ever scare you again. I don't speak a lick of polish but when i say this to a Pole they immediately burst out laughing.
@@Packy21 Excuse me, it's Chrząszczyżewoszyce! Well Ok, Chrząszczyżewoszycach is also correct but only in the instrumental (narzędnik) and locative (miejscownik) cases, not the simple nominative case (mianownik), and that's the case that was used in that scene. :)
If you want to get the most out of a language. Learn Dutch, every time you say one thing in Dutch. A whole group of Dutchmen will come screaming GEKOLONISEERD! It is great for the algorithm.
@@humanitysucks4025 Exactly! This isn’t an “experiment”, my guy! You changed the parameters of the thing like 6 times *in the middle of it*, had no “control group” to speak of, attempted to actively manipulate the participants to get the data you wanted rather than seeing what actually arose and either modifying your theory or at LEAST creating a better experiment model... This wasn’t even “stupidity and unethical behavior in the pursuit of Science”, since there WASN’T EVEN ANY SCIENCE HAPPENING??? 😂 It’s not even P-Hacking or Cherry-picking! That requires subtlety! And for a legitimate set of experiments to have taken place! Dude just wanted to stage his own telanovella!!! Which is fine, Bro, to each their own, but there’s a reason people usually hire actors for that??? 😅
I wondered if you have heard of Šćepan Mali, thought he might make a good ide for a video. The man shows up in Montenegro in the autumn of 1766 and someone starts a rumor that he is the late Peter 3, which he never confirms nor denies. The actual ruler of Montenegro Prince-Bishop Sava (who have met Peter) attempts to expose him but ultimately fails. Šćepan becomes the ruler of the country in 1767. Sava gets sidelined and confined to a monastery in 1968, where of Šćepan becomes and absolute monarch, with a pretty successful reign that see numerus reforms and lay the groundwork for Montenegro as a nation state. The rest of Europe look with concern on a dead tsar appearing in the ever stable region of the Balkans. The most concerned is however Catherin the Great, Peters late wife who try's numerous times to dethrone him. A Russian delegation eventually does expose him as a fraud and imprison him, but later puts him back in charge as he is the most competent of the potential leaders. While it saddens the people that he isn't Peter the Third they still welcome him back as their ruler.
I wonder if Santiago shot himself in the foot by bringing up conflict to his subjects constantly. They were probably geared up for conflict avoidance before the raft even left the harbor!
It's not the only refutation of Lord of the Flies, thankfully. At some point a group of teenaged boys at a boarding school became wrecked on an island and remained there for years. When they were found... they'd created a functional society, shelters, and cared for their wounded. Good thing Santiago wasn't with them. :p
Did I instantly recognize this story when I saw the thumbnail? Yes. Did I still wanna see Jack’s take on one of the most poorly planned experiments ever? Also yes
What’s kind of funny is that there might have been something that could have been learned about how people cope with being in stressful situations while remaining positive (singing songs, reading books, and generally having a good time) under good leadership. But Santiago accidentally turned it into an analysis of how overly pretentious sociology majors are fully capable of ruining everyone’s day at a moments notice.
This really needs to be movie where we are switching between Santiago's crazy point of view of everything and on the other hand everyone just getting along and being super friendly to each other xD
It's actually interesting that his experiment did prove something about human psychology, that people were willing to cooperate to survive, and when there wasn't room for suspicion or doubt (like when he revealed the sex desires), they were far more communal, willing to discuss and work things out rather than start hitting each other.
I think we should go for Polish, as this is the 3rd hardest language to learn for English speakers. Also, think about him having to pronounce 'chrząszcz' (beetle), 'trzeszczący' (creaking) or 'bezwzględny' (ruthless).
Funny you should say that... I had to explain to my son when he was younger that we don't speak American we speak English. We had gone to England (Liverpool to be precise) on holiday. So he thought there was American and British. But that they were similar but not the same. He had also just turned 4. Also I'm gaveling horrible insomnia so if this made sense please cut me some slack
A boat without an engine and shoddy sails filled with a men to women ratio of 2:3 and a female captain, and people in an age range where they notoriously don't tend to hold prejudices, aimlessly drifting in the Caribbean for three months, creating a situation where it'd be in everyone's best interest to be cool and cooperative? Yep, nothing but WW3 could happen.
In the version of the story I heard, the priest was there to stabilize the group, because Santiago thought otherwise the chaos would already start while still in harbour.
You know, I think we can learn a lot from this "experiment". Mainly that most people work well together and can work maturely through aggression. It's only when there's someone with an agenda, that goes beyond overall group benefits, that it breaks down.
I'm no fan of Thor Heyerdal's shenanigans, but I dont think he set out to prove some eugenicist theory. His ideas were generally about how interconnected various cultures were, the Kontiki expedition was about proving that it was south Americans that colonised Polynesia. The "white" previous culture- bearer race in Peru to which you refer was explicitly said by Thor to not be caucasian. Thor is more explicit about his belief in racial equality and the interconnectivity of people, hence his boat crews coming from all over the world. He was a charlatan and his theories were plucked straight from his arse, but I dont think he was a racist.
I don't think Heyerdal was a white supremacist / eugenicist, hyperdiffusonism just has negative racial implications, and that carries over into the fundamental assumptions behind Heyerdal's research
Your take on Thor Heyerdahl makes no sense. He didn’t think it was impossible for Polynesians to have come from the west because „White people had not told them how to sail“, he argued instead that it was more probable that they came from South America because the currents and the trade wind would have been strongly in favor for these people. Which is a fair point, especially if you consider that the coastal residents of modern day Peru were excellent seafarers and shipbuilders (The Spaniards captured a raft in 1527, which had twenty people on board and was capable of carrying 36 metric tons of cargo. These people clearly had no need for white people telling them how to build a fucking boat.) As far as I know he was later proven wrong, but that’s science man. Not every twentieth-century-archaeologist went full SS-Ahnenerbe… Where did you get this misinformation?
because his whole theory is based around the idea that he believed there was an ancient group of white peruvians who were the one who were actually responsible for creating incan society and fled to the pacific Islands after losing a war and he based this almost entirely off the fact that some pacific islanders had fair skin.
@@miss_baphomet Idea? Not that they created Incan society but that the sky people existed is a proven scientific fact. So is the ancient genetically european population in the pacific, in NZ I believe. They fled from ethnic cleansing from some region in north-west india thousands of years ago. I don't remember the details but you should be able to find all the information needed to verify if you care enough. I watched a documentary on the subject on youtube. It's mainstream information.
I wish he would have tried something like this in the '80s when I was their age. His ass would have never made it across the Atlantic, that's for sure.
I laughed way too hard at this one. I kept saying "...wait...what?" Every time Santiago would "push the experiment father". Also I kept picturing him as Santiago Cabrera from Merlin lol
Reminds me of the Community episode where Abed broke the professors psychology law... and also the sailing class one. Actually this sounds like a Community episode... except there would've been more fighting and struggle... until a speech at the end.
I think this was more about Santiago’s bizarre fantasies than an actual experience. He just wants to play out his bizarre fetish and disguise it as a scientific experiment.
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Maybe if I'd taken Spanish I would've known how to properly pronounce Genoves >.>
Hi
Yo!
Learn Portuguese and tell everyone that they’re going to Brazil
hi
Learn Russian it would be funny
Santiago managed to perform an experiment on himself by accident lmao
That's some real character development.
Sometimes you gotta enter the test tube
It's like the Duncan principle from community
Now that's a plot twist
@@jasonutty52 What's that?
Santiago: "Let us get to the origins of violence and sow the seeds of peace in soil of hate"
Literally everyone else: "Wanna read books and sing on a boat that's gone adrift for 3 months?"
Santiago: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Horny strangers can't just get along with sensible ideas of how to deal with the tension of boredom and danger! REEEEEEEEEEEE!
silly man, the answer is simple , what causes violence is inequality, once the individuals rises above the rest, feeling of envy and inferiority grip the rest and the rest are forced to response with crab mentality, the individual has initiated competition , on a boat there are no resources their is no private property so the individual can never even begin to arise , because the boat is already owned , but lets they were stuck on a island with no ownership on resources, as soon as the first person begins to cut the tree to Build a tool, violence will arise, because again the individual has initiated competition for the "crime" of seeking, at which point they are no longer equal, the tool maker is ahead in the race.
@@bubblegumgun3292 In other words: Santiago had only to make people elect a leader and then provide the leader with luxuries.
@@bubblegumgun3292 i.e see lords of files.
@@moviefan005 yup
50's-70's psychologists really missed that methodology lesson about 'make sure your experiments test FOR a hypothesis rather than try and ASSUME a hypothesis'.
I mean to be fair assuming a hypothesis then working backwards to try to prove that hypothesis is still alive and well, isn’t that right Flat Earthers?
he was trying to prove his hypothesis and kept interfering with the subjects instead of just studying them
There are no "pure sciences" by that logic,as the personal situation of the observer cannot be fully abstracted, an example is Eistein saying black holes were impossible,even though his equations proved their existance
@Prof. Weed Because of a single individual's faulty methodology?
Guess you could say they... uhhhh... missed the boat
Santiago: “haha female captain will embarrass the men and they will be emasculated.”
Also Santiago: “god I hate taking orders from a woman!”
He was proven right! The experiment was a success.
@@miketacos9034 **gasp** By the Scientific Method!
Yeah know I think taking orders from a woman was less of a guy problem and more of a himself problem
That's some men's fetish you know.
I guess Mr Santiago didn't think of that.
The fool designed his own psychological torture chamber for himself, and it didn't go well...
In an alternate timeline, Santiago would be designing vault-tec shelters.
Oh absolutely, he's exactly the kind of person to work for Vault Tec
Oh my god, yeah, if anything he's even more of an overblown caricature than the overseer of vault 88 was written to be
I literally just commented this, Dagnabit!
Hes the dude who designed the vaults 69 and 96
That would explain a lot
The hilarious thing about this experiment was that the participants are all like “it was lovely, except for that f***ing scientist”
That's pretty much the modern world. Having a nice cruise on the sea and ending in Mexico, delightful. Put a scientist on board, it becomes a living nightmare 😂
You see Santiago failed to realize his experiment because he missed a critical element, Reality TV Show producers.
Ah yes the pure point of violence and evil. Just look up what the set of the Wizard of Oz was like.
I mean, the profit motive would light a fire under their asses. And more cameras makes it much harder for them to back out of the sex contracts.
@@q9wgyo73 that makes sense then there would some more interesting interactions within the crew.
I thought he was his own producer given how much mendling he was doing there
The only reason those shows work as drama factories is because the producers interfere.
The university reading his notes: wait what was the point of this experiment?
Santiago: yes.
The University: Was this whole thing just a excuse to have a elaborate sex party?
"It's a mission of self-discovery"
"I thought it was for kink"
"That's what I said"
*It is MY study and I DECIDE THE POINT*
Santiago: I don't have issues! You have issues!
Santiago is the kid that pushes two dolls together and makes smooching sounds, only to start slamming them around a dollhouse and destroy it.
He then proceeds to shame the dolls
hahahahaha
@@castusaquila4306 God gives Free Will, so no.
That's..not normal?
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 God also gave us a world with hunger, disease, earthquakes, storms, etc. a world where humans are constantly traumatized and their resources smashed by forces they have little control over.
It’s frankly amazing the crew didn’t actually throw him overboard.
Perhaps if it was 4 months at sea instead of 3
This is a testament to the subjects' peaceful demeanor. It's as if the world could learn a lesson from them...
I kinda expected for them to get rid of him on the second outburst or during the storm
Authority is powerful. probably one of the most under studied aspects of human sociology. It's mind boggling just what average would let a person in authority do to them or their peers.
@@Herrikias sadly that ain't happening 😂
Basically the true world peace was the friends we made along the way.
I mean you joke but that kinda feels like the takeaway.
funny enough but it kinda correct , ironic
This will probably be the end of One Piece lol
To be fair, world peace literally IS about making friends with everyone along the way so. I guess… he kinda did something…?
World peace is unachievable. But the friendships you make with different people are definitely the closest you can get to that. That's why I love my Serbian, Kenyan, German and Canadian friends so much 😂
You know, the fact that genoves was apparently the only one who actually felt "emasculated" having to take orders from a woman explains a lot about this.
Projection was a well-known phenomenon by then. He probably should have taken Psych 101 before doing his "research".
I love it that the ladies fixed the rudder while he slept. What a prick.
i like how the videos are getting more and more obscure
I mean to be fair two videos ago was Caligula.
He's got us hooked, now he's taking us along for the ride.
This is the Antman phase of Jack's cinematic universe. Wait until he covers something big like the Punic War or something and brings all these obscure characters back together.
@@davididiart5934 I would love to see how the 70's sex boat has anything to do with the panic wars
@@gethinblake4826 I believe in Jack's writing skills.
I've never heard about this story. It has the potential to be made into a good comedy-drama.
No kidding, I'd start making a script if I weren't already stalling on all my other ideas 😆
I want to see him try to speak Danish because I’ve heard it’s miserable to learn
The Welsh language:Am I a joke to you?
@@CollinMcLean Welsh is next-level cursed
Dude i guarantee thet slovene is probably worse
I mean, Danish just drunk Swedish, how hard could it be?
(now, Icelandic or Finnish, THOSE are a challenge)
Just see one of my videos danish is a nightmare. :P
Santiago out here trying to make the group throw him off the boat...
Santiago was not the imposter....2 imposters remain
I have no idea how the crew was able to put up with his b******* for so long, like seriously why didn't they just tie him up then sail to the nearest Port once he became crazy
@@christianweibrecht6555 I dont know why either.
Well, I think, the irony is that he did find the cause of violence. Not necessarily sex, but people seeking others to do their bidding and pushing them down.
He was the cause.
The real shocker is that he got back alive
That's what I thought to be interesting. It showed the anger a control freak gets when things don't go their way and how everything must be laid out perfectly to their own wants and perceptions. It also gave the answer. The way to world peace is to just not give a crap and let people be. If what they do starts hurting or affecting you, then resolve it.
This feels like a straight up reality tv show.
Id watch it
Santiago was ahead of his time.
This IS The Origin!
If they had like confession room on that boat I would like to join this experiment. 😂😂
Not scripted enough.
Ironically, he did achieve a nearly impossible feat in the way of peace, but he was too blind and too stubborn to see it.
That's what I'm thinking lol
Is it just me or is this about how every "let's turn a bunch of strangers against each other" experiments seem to go?
Pretty much. Perhaps the causes of violence in people is more complex and illogical than people think.
I just find it interesting that these experiments seem to show that humans can easily get along and work together in extreme circumstances.
@@Nostripe361 People who do these experiments really overestimate how quickly humans turn to violence (and in Santiago's case, he also overestimated how horny people are lol). They all seem to assume that someone will immediately murder another person the moment they annoy each other.
@@CollinBuckman yeah they all seemed to have this Hobbesian world view that without civilization, people would go insane and start raping and murdering each other. Completely ignoring that any species that self destructive would have gone extinct before the idea of a government could have even been thought up.
@@Nostripe361 for sure, weird assumption to make that government and other forms of organization arose to combat our bad instincts instead of assuming that organization is the outgrowth of a cooperative species.
I mean if you tried to pull this today I'd imagine Santiago would've been proven correct within the first week at sea. Humans are most definitely very violent creatures but only when they've experienced hardship and conflict for a very large amount of their lives, recent college grads of the 1970's are most definitely not going to be that crowd however, they're entire reason to do anything is so that they aren't shipped to Vietnam or thanking their stars that Vietnam ended before they could be shipped off.
So trying to create Lord of the Flies, this guy created Love Island on a boat.
When "People were Weird about sex in the 1970's" and "This Specific Dude Needs Therapy" collide...
"There is no free love in my sex draft!" hahahahahahah that broke me!
Says he wants to see violence and then gives them an environment where cooperation works out way better.
Also: Says he wants to promote peace, then gets upset when people are peaceful.
Scientist thinks his fanfic scenario will work in real life and is shocked to find it is more of a crazed delusion
Sigmund Freud: *whistles*
I love how early on Jack felt the need to mention that this guy was friends with racist norwegian raft man, really sets a precedent for boat shenanigans
I just love that between the two of them their solution to everything is to make a raft
@@JackRackam we can't ignore that Santiago's hypothesis had absolutelly nothing to do with sailing, did he just think isolation was best when experienced in boats?!
@@Tsuruchi_420 He could've just grabbed a deserted island lmao
@@nerobernardino88 Guy could have organized a big brother style house too, It seems to create the type of chaos he wanted
@@Tsuruchi_420 Are you brazilian too my dude? Brazilian Big Brother is absolute insane, sometimes I wonder if everyone there is alright in the head.
I mean I'd vote Swedish just to hear you say "Karl and he was from Sverige" again
If all evidence proves contrary to your hypothesis it’s totally not that your hypothesis is wrong you just need to go more extreme.
-this sun of a
If reality does not support my theory, clearly I must amend reality.
Bro the volunteers are so wholesome lmao
I love how, in trying to find the root of human agression, Santiago just proves we generally get along by default.
The pirate Jean leffite next ? A guy putt a 500$ bounty on him so then he put a 5000$ on that guy
Thats a power move.
His is referenced a lot in Disney parks, especially around PotC and HM!
Not just "some guy", the Governor of Louisiana. Altho, admittedly, the governor didn't particularly want to, and they both thought the whole thing was a big fun joke.
Man discovers that people aren't insane but rather just adaptive and kind of boring
In retrospect, this is a pretty good case study on the psychological conditions that would cause a mutiny
Its common sense. If you try to get a group of people killed. They'll probably try to protect themselves.
Santiago should have framed it like that from the start. 😂
So, in conclusion, this experiment proved one thing: Shared hardships create bonds between people, except for the one guy responsible for all of those hardships because his stubborn pride and confirmation bias was more important than human lives. Great job Santiago. 👏
Yes! I was just listening to a podcast about this. I love that a lot fringe science in the 70's mirrored the ideals of heroic medicine in the 1800's. So much crazy shit.
What was the name of the podcast? Is it The Dollop?
@James Baines: The what?
@@Greener221 The Dollop! It's a comedy and history podcast
@@Mechabang It might have been? Or a BBC/WNYC one. I honestly can't remember. I do love The Dollop though!
This sounds like the Fyre Festival at sea.
@@mangonel Water Festival?
Wait a minute, a Jack Rackam video where the video’s subject doesn’t die at the end? The hell is this?
A plot twist we didn't see coming?
He died... in 2013.
He died in 2013
He died in 2013...
2013 died in him
lol he tried to conduct a experimet about violence...during the hippie era. Fucking genius
Lol
Well, 70’s is like turmoil era.
Political extremism (Weather Underground, Red Army Faction, and such) , plane hijackings, rebellions, and economic downturn (Oil Crisis).
@@powerist209 it was just a joke
Right? Also thinking that they'd be a ton of jealousy in the decade of free love
My god explaining this boat plan is just "But wait there's more!" On repeat
So ironically he did achieved a small "proof" that world peace can happen since all the people on the boat just became more or less friends and had a good time with each other,in general. Also yeah he also overestimated humans "savagery" and "horniness"
If he did the experiment today with 4 incels and 6 feminists who hate men, then he probably would've gotten the results he expected from 10 mentally stable and healthy people
The thing is Violence happens in humanity based less on s*x as with animals (though that happens a lot just not replicable in lab setting unless you are unethical) and more on fear of lossing something usually in country scale Resources, sovreignty, National Identity or in individual form Freedom, Money, a Job ect.
@@balazscsotai8354 I predict that would create entrenchment from both sides at least at 1st, I mean Both have aspects of hating the other based on gender so they will split into 2 groups, however over time if the 2 open up they may work together in a raft that needs constant maintainance. (people often drop distrust and violence if the situation calls for elimimating a problem that effects them and the enemy, basically the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend at least till the Common enemy is dealt with)
Ironically, had he looked deeper he might have actually drawn some interesting conclusions from this experiment.
For instance, as he felt his position of power as the experimenter was being threatened, he drew closer to violence, and it took a near death experience to shake him from the path, and make him realize he was incompetent.
That thought becomes very interesting applied to world leaders, regardless of political affiliation.
... Also, it would just be funny to put a bunch of politicians on a boat and set them adrift. But maybe that says more about my delusions than anything.
I'm in. Half republican half democrats. Let's see what happens. Winner take all. No holds barred
@@jonnygranville281 I'm betting on the younger members, though I'm not sure what party.
@@d.n5287 90% of the US Senators look like they would break their neck from slipping on a banana peel. But humans are weird as hell, look at Micheal Mallory. The guy was like 60 and lived getting run over multiple times and left out in the freezing cold.
Between the world leaders though, I would say Putin. Cause Russians.
At least it'd make for a good ppv.
Sorry for the necro post.
But what if this is the situation that causes all that steamy fuckin' Santiago was expecting?
I love how Maria's pose just radiates alpha swagger.
I thought he was going to be the most interesting man in the world.
Man trying to isolate the variables that are factors for human violence creates an attempted sex raft to see what’ll stick. (Spoiler: Santiago being a total nuisance is the variable)
The best experiments are always the ones where the researcher is an active participant changing the methods half way through
i think the experiment was a huge success. we discovered through this process that violence stems from people with perverted sense of their ego and a lack of understanding towards other people. in my opinion it stems primarily from a lack of better communication and problem solving skills. it is so funny that santiago was the only person on that boat who allowed the world to observe this fact.
This is the most 1970s thing I have ever heard (from you). Chris Burden is a close 2nd.
The only things I'm brave enough to venture into the 20th century for:
- Mad lads from the world wars
- Teddy Roosevelt
- Random dudes in the 70s going off their rocker and bringing everyone else down with them
Did this guy just invented reality shows? I feel like this guy just invented reality shows but didn't realize it
Polish pronunciation is such a pain i wanna see him try
Every time I dip into Polish history I've gotta come up against something like Władysław, but it seems like once you get a hang of the letters it's pretty consistent... I hope
You've probably seen it before but try to get "Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz, Chrząszczyżewoszycach, powiat Łękołody" right and no language will ever scare you again. I don't speak a lick of polish but when i say this to a Pole they immediately burst out laughing.
@@Packy21 Oh my God
And don't dare come back before it's perfect!
@@Packy21 Excuse me, it's Chrząszczyżewoszyce! Well Ok, Chrząszczyżewoszycach is also correct but only in the instrumental (narzędnik) and locative (miejscownik) cases, not the simple nominative case (mianownik), and that's the case that was used in that scene. :)
This season of Total Drama looks great.
Everyone else: Trying to be chill, getting along and having a good time
Santiago: No! This isn't how you're supposed to play the game!
If you want to get the most out of a language. Learn Dutch, every time you say one thing in Dutch. A whole group of Dutchmen will come screaming GEKOLONISEERD! It is great for the algorithm.
As a brazilian with no ties whatsoever to the Netherlands... GEKOLONISEERD!
GEKOLONISEERD!!
GEKOLONISEERD
@@nerobernardino88 the Netherlands once had a colony in Brazil funnily enough
@@thomastakesatollforthedark2231 Yup, I'm aware of that lmao
Even putting Ethics aside? This is just... objectively not how you science??? XD
I mean ethics methics you can lay them out how you want them to be
Yes. The incompetence is irritating.
It's not about Science anymore, it's about
*F U N*
Ethics is not scientific, its just added to it to prevent science from turning into a nightmare.
@@humanitysucks4025 Exactly! This isn’t an “experiment”, my guy! You changed the parameters of the thing like 6 times *in the middle of it*, had no “control group” to speak of, attempted to actively manipulate the participants to get the data you wanted rather than seeing what actually arose and either modifying your theory or at LEAST creating a better experiment model... This wasn’t even “stupidity and unethical behavior in the pursuit of Science”, since there WASN’T EVEN ANY SCIENCE HAPPENING??? 😂
It’s not even P-Hacking or Cherry-picking! That requires subtlety! And for a legitimate set of experiments to have taken place! Dude just wanted to stage his own telanovella!!! Which is fine, Bro, to each their own, but there’s a reason people usually hire actors for that??? 😅
I wondered if you have heard of Šćepan Mali, thought he might make a good ide for a video. The man shows up in Montenegro in the autumn of 1766 and someone starts a rumor that he is the late Peter 3, which he never confirms nor denies. The actual ruler of Montenegro Prince-Bishop Sava (who have met Peter) attempts to expose him but ultimately fails. Šćepan becomes the ruler of the country in 1767. Sava gets sidelined and confined to a monastery in 1968, where of Šćepan becomes and absolute monarch, with a pretty successful reign that see numerus reforms and lay the groundwork for Montenegro as a nation state. The rest of Europe look with concern on a dead tsar appearing in the ever stable region of the Balkans. The most concerned is however Catherin the Great, Peters late wife who try's numerous times to dethrone him. A Russian delegation eventually does expose him as a fraud and imprison him, but later puts him back in charge as he is the most competent of the potential leaders. While it saddens the people that he isn't Peter the Third they still welcome him back as their ruler.
The most based identity theft in history?
You mean 1966 instead of 1766 right?
@@eliasredlich3425 No i meant 1767 instead of 1967
There is a meme in Germany: When someone misspells something. You need to say: Sprachen lernen Babbel.
"What would push you into killing another human being?'
Someone pushing their face into my personal space while asking creepy ass questions
Sex raft followed by a date in the 70s
Me: making lots of sense so far
It's almost like violence is caused by people who crave violence
I wonder if Santiago shot himself in the foot by bringing up conflict to his subjects constantly. They were probably geared up for conflict avoidance before the raft even left the harbor!
The only thing he told them was "it's for peace"
I love the fact the people were so chill and lovely, brings hope to humanity 🥰
It's not the only refutation of Lord of the Flies, thankfully. At some point a group of teenaged boys at a boarding school became wrecked on an island and remained there for years. When they were found... they'd created a functional society, shelters, and cared for their wounded. Good thing Santiago wasn't with them. :p
@UCnqa9tZVtTUqPVjjeg5hi8A If this fuckhead was there he would be the only murder, a justified one at that, the boys would have committed
that's some vault-tec shit
Your hovercraft is full of eels? My nipples explode with delight!
Hey, what are you doing here 🤔 shouldn't you be busy caving in to popular pressure for yet another Checkmate Lincolnites video?
The man invented reality shows before they were a thing. He just missed all the cameras and sponsorship.
Did I instantly recognize this story when I saw the thumbnail? Yes. Did I still wanna see Jack’s take on one of the most poorly planned experiments ever? Also yes
The 1970’s were a different time.
A very sexist time to boot. 11:58 - "The Captain Who Wears A Bikini" - really?
What’s kind of funny is that there might have been something that could have been learned about how people cope with being in stressful situations while remaining positive (singing songs, reading books, and generally having a good time) under good leadership.
But Santiago accidentally turned it into an analysis of how overly pretentious sociology majors are fully capable of ruining everyone’s day at a moments notice.
Santiago: "The origins of violence could be as simple as a single megalomaniacal c*******." *looks at mirror "The question then is who it will be."
This really needs to be movie where we are switching between Santiago's crazy point of view of everything and on the other hand everyone just getting along and being super friendly to each other xD
Love the video! Plus it’s fun how almost every attempt by Santiago to make these people turn on each other just fails spectacularly
This is the living embodiment of the "you played yourself" meme.
It's actually interesting that his experiment did prove something about human psychology, that people were willing to cooperate to survive, and when there wasn't room for suspicion or doubt (like when he revealed the sex desires), they were far more communal, willing to discuss and work things out rather than start hitting each other.
I think we should go for Polish, as this is the 3rd hardest language to learn for English speakers. Also, think about him having to pronounce 'chrząszcz' (beetle), 'trzeszczący' (creaking) or 'bezwzględny' (ruthless).
these words wouldnt be out of place in a spell to summon a demonhorde... now i really want to learn polish...
If I ever visit Poland I pray I never run into a ruthless creaking beetle!
I want to see you speak British. It’s such an exotic language!
Bri'ish
@@zyanego3170 I see you are a man of many languages. Huzzah a man of Quality!!😀
Funny you should say that... I had to explain to my son when he was younger that we don't speak American we speak English. We had gone to England (Liverpool to be precise) on holiday. So he thought there was American and British. But that they were similar but not the same. He had also just turned 4. Also I'm gaveling horrible insomnia so if this made sense please cut me some slack
Dude, this is one of your best yet.🏆
I'd heard this story a while Bach,but not so we'll told....
This is a great content hear,made with a great good sense of humor in it.Hey creator ,you deserve more than 1M views.
Much appreciated!
I actually got chills and started cheering a bit hearing World’s End Girlfriend at the start of the video. Great taste dude
🧐👌
“My hovercraft is full of eels”
Monty python
So how's heaven, bro?
If he filmed it it would be reality tv tbh
Oh 100%, Santiago would have been the perfect reality TV host
Big brother atlantic
Santiago wanting to have the answer to world peace and actually prove it by isolating people, making them open up, and introducing a villain.
I love Santiago's voice in this video it's simply hilarious
IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU
A boat without an engine and shoddy sails filled with a men to women ratio of 2:3 and a female captain, and people in an age range where they notoriously don't tend to hold prejudices, aimlessly drifting in the Caribbean for three months, creating a situation where it'd be in everyone's best interest to be cool and cooperative? Yep, nothing but WW3 could happen.
I had just run out of videos to watch in my subscription box, and this came in clutch
In the version of the story I heard, the priest was there to stabilize the group, because Santiago thought otherwise the chaos would already start while still in harbour.
You know, I think we can learn a lot from this "experiment". Mainly that most people work well together and can work maturely through aggression. It's only when there's someone with an agenda, that goes beyond overall group benefits, that it breaks down.
I'm no fan of Thor Heyerdal's shenanigans, but I dont think he set out to prove some eugenicist theory. His ideas were generally about how interconnected various cultures were, the Kontiki expedition was about proving that it was south Americans that colonised Polynesia. The "white" previous culture- bearer race in Peru to which you refer was explicitly said by Thor to not be caucasian. Thor is more explicit about his belief in racial equality and the interconnectivity of people, hence his boat crews coming from all over the world. He was a charlatan and his theories were plucked straight from his arse, but I dont think he was a racist.
I don't think Heyerdal was a white supremacist / eugenicist, hyperdiffusonism just has negative racial implications, and that carries over into the fundamental assumptions behind Heyerdal's research
Btw i saw one of your shorts and loveeeee your channel !nd humor!!! I like alot of your video !!!
Omg I'm here so early.
You don't know how addicted I am to your videos 😂
lmao
last lines from Santiago:"I hope you all bought plane tickets!"
This is literally just Danganronpa with Santiago as Monokuma
Your take on Thor Heyerdahl makes no sense. He didn’t think it was impossible for Polynesians to have come from the west because „White people had not told them how to sail“, he argued instead that it was more probable that they came from South America because the currents and the trade wind would have been strongly in favor for these people. Which is a fair point, especially if you consider that the coastal residents of modern day Peru were excellent seafarers and shipbuilders (The Spaniards captured a raft in 1527, which had twenty people on board and was capable of carrying 36 metric tons of cargo. These people clearly had no need for white people telling them how to build a fucking boat.)
As far as I know he was later proven wrong, but that’s science man.
Not every twentieth-century-archaeologist went full SS-Ahnenerbe…
Where did you get this misinformation?
because his whole theory is based around the idea that he believed there was an ancient group of white peruvians who were the one who were actually responsible for creating incan society and fled to the pacific Islands after losing a war and he based this almost entirely off the fact that some pacific islanders had fair skin.
@@miss_baphomet don't forget that a lot of them had red hair too.
@@miss_baphomet Idea? Not that they created Incan society but that the sky people existed is a proven scientific fact. So is the ancient genetically european population in the pacific, in NZ I believe. They fled from ethnic cleansing from some region in north-west india thousands of years ago. I don't remember the details but you should be able to find all the information needed to verify if you care enough. I watched a documentary on the subject on youtube. It's mainstream information.
Learn some freaky-deaky Dutch like Goldmember ahahaha.
Loving your content man, so happy to have stumbled across it a few weeks ago!
I wish he would have tried something like this in the '80s when I was their age. His ass would have never made it across the Atlantic, that's for sure.
He reminds me of Jordan Peterson, completely convinced that everyone else's minds work like his.
I laughed way too hard at this one. I kept saying "...wait...what?" Every time Santiago would "push the experiment father". Also I kept picturing him as Santiago Cabrera from Merlin lol
Reminds me of the Community episode where Abed broke the professors psychology law... and also the sailing class one. Actually this sounds like a Community episode... except there would've been more fighting and struggle... until a speech at the end.
And Pierce would've said something sexual and/or racist and would've absolutely gone batshit insane at the start.
Santiago lived on to become a reality TV producer for Fox
You NEED to do Nestor Makhno
I LOVE your videos man! Keep em coming :)
I think this was more about Santiago’s bizarre fantasies than an actual experience. He just wants to play out his bizarre fetish and disguise it as a scientific experiment.