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Why we DIDN'T install a Septic Tank! Off Grid Living
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2022
- A lot of people are leaving the city and buying property and tackling DIY projects. If you are going to install a septic system on your property you better watch this video and understand that this one mistake could cost you time and money!
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Septic contractors also have highly mixed relationships with local inspectors as well. Our local inspector attempted to coerce us into using his buddy by slow rolling the admin (gubment) side of the process. When we switched to another contractor after seven weeks of no action, the inspector came out to the site, physically and intentionally broke piping at the tank and then said we failed inspection. We caught this on video, fortunately. The contractor made good on it and he also went to the state capitol in person to report the local inspector.
That’s dirty
Glad you got it on video. Get his license revoked and maybe even some prison time.
Should have shared the video on u tube
Whoa!!! thank goodness you had a Hidden camera! Smart, very smart! Well, that’s a happy ending to a very sad tale! Hopefully that was put on the front page of all the local newspapers in the area and all over the radio and all over Facebook
That's crazy!! Thank God you cya
I'm a plumber, and friend of mine is septic tank installer, he actually makes the concrete tanks, we hardly ever have a problem with them, ive seen septic tanks go about 40 years without any maintenance or pumping out, mine is 15 years old and has never been touched .
Well I believe your the proud owner of a giant human ore brick now.
@@hopefilledsinner3911 cool!
Make sure those using the system know it’s poop pee and toilet paper only. Grease is a septic killer. Don’t pour I down the drain.
So youve not had it pumped?
@@jimhendrix7776 no, ive seen septic tanks go 30 years before being pumped..remember don't put wipes, even if they say, septic safe, condoms grease, oil, try not to use strong cleaners like bleach in your toilet and sinks when cleaning, you don't want to harm the beneficial bacteria. You want sunlight to fall on your drain field,the effluent gets wicked to the surface and evaporates, less going into to the ground water. Eventually all tanks have to be pumped out because of solid waste the bacteria make as they digest the waste, their poop lol,think ashes in a wood stove, 200 lbs of fire, reduced to 2lbs of ash.
If someone told us 10 years ago that we would end up moving off grid to the foot hills of the Ozarks on 13 acres and lived in heavy duty Wahl tents (2 of the biggest, until we build our home) and poop in a composting toilet and do offgrid laundry and cook over a wood stove and pull our water from a river and filter it in a Berkey.......I wouldn't believe them but what a journey/adventure it's about to be and we can't wait. Maybe roughing it for a bit but the freedom will be worth it. Love your videos!!!!!
A year later any update? How is it going God bless ✝️🤍
I have installed septic's for 30 years, concrete tanks do not float or move after proper install. Plastic tanks float. Love the channel, glad to see your family is following your lead and I agree, things are about to get real weird in the ol usa.
I inspect septic systems. I have seen concrete tanks float that weren't filled after being laid.
Concrete tanks will float I have seen it , but I have never had one of mine float because I take precautions to keep that from happening !
@@bobbyquinn2156 Filling is part of an install with any reputable contractor. Of course a cement box can float from frost or ground movement if not filled to offset the hollow space for goodness sakes. Simple, don't install if not filling before freezing of ground. Sound like my grandson conversation, did you grab that 2 dollars on the table Buck, no but I grabbed those eight quarters.
concrete tanks float
so do container ships
I am in South Central Missouri South of West Plains. I have been a licensed septic installer for the state of Missouri for 16 years. And let me say there's a lot of shady contractors out there.
In the state of Missouri you must have at least three acres of land to install a septic tank with no license. Otherwise a licensed installer must be on site. And in many cities they will have their own building codes. And it's almost always more than the County's which generally have none.
Concrete tanks are better and generally cheaper than plastic. Plastic tends to collapse over the years. And then there's always the idiot who drives over it! Septic tank should be able to go decades with no trouble. If they're working properly they won't even need to be pumped. That is providing you follow some simple rules. Use Quick biodegradable toilet paper and don't flush diapers in the like. Wipe grease out of the pans and throw that away before washing them. The same with large food bits. It's best not to use a garbage disposal although most of that will float out of the septic tank if you have leach lines it will clog your leach lines given time. It's best just to use the strainer and no garbage disposal. Now soon as you take a dump in the septic tank the enzymes from a human body will continue to break down the solids. although you can buy enzymes to flush into the septic tank. It's unfortunate they had a bad installer. But not surprising although I generally Ace the test on recertification, many flunk it. I'm mostly retired now just working the ranch and garden Seasons coming up quick.
@@Miguel195211 trees are bad for anything underground, the root system typically exceeds the canopy of the tree by at least 50%, more if you prune it back as you lose that real reference edge. Say your canopy is twenty feet from the trunk, you can count on at least thirty feet of roots from the trunk and roots make for great blockages.
@@kevinfreeman3098 I agree with that.
@@Miguel195211 You can also add a grey-water system that will take all of the water other than from the toilet which goes to the septic tank. The grey-water will be OK for use in watering plants, etc.
Why not just poop in bucket and run greywater out to the fields
@@royreynolds108 I'm about to find out 🤣. You're the only comment I've seen so far that is like our idea... if I have 2 toilets and only their water going to even a home made septic setup, it should last alot longer and not need a massive leech field.
If you take a little bit of Black Water, and run 300 gallons of showers and dishwater and clothing washer water into it... you now have over 300 gallons of BLACK water... it seems ridiculous on its face. Septic systems leaching nasty water at the surface, contaminating ponds and watersheds and ALL THAT STUFF..... with THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of gallons of black water that never had to BE black water... if we never add Grey water to black, we'd have less than am 1/8th of the water being consumed total becoming dangerous Black Water... its like we create our own problems with these all - in - 1 septic setups.
I'm gonna try 2 separate pits. Grey, and black.
Outhouses are legal in my state, so having 2 toilets flowing ONLY their waste into a 5 ft deep hole in the ground, IS THE SAME THING.. ergo, it can't be THAT big a problem.
It cost my parents 6,000 dollars for the lines, etc when they were forced to go from septic to a city sewer. This is so ridiculous that people are forced to spend thousands of dollars and have no choice in the matter.
Bot a farm last September. As a condition of close, the seller had to replace the 50+ yr old septic. $18,500 dollars.
@@kimberlybrown4284 Wow. I had to replace the septic system here in southern Ok at our rental property. Cost around $6500.00. That was three years ago.
@@LL-cs2tr a lot depends on size of house. Mine is rated a 4 br. Would have been more expensive closer to Twin Cities.
Only $6k?!? You got off very cheaply!
Mom was hit with a choice, back in about the late 1970s, from her city; mandated to connect w/city sewer, @ a cost close to $20000, or, she had to prove the old “septic” was still viable (really, a non-reinforced hole w/about 2’ of dirt over it’s wooden “lid”).
One of my bro’s dug up the old half-collapsed lid (must have been same one installed when the old place was built, probably back in about the 1940’s)… repaired it (replace the wood lid & rebury); also, leach-pipe diverted the washer, sinks, & tub out to the yard to help water plants, via a continuous leech-pipe through lots of planted areas…(saved many gallons off purchased city water needed to keep her jungle alive in the desert).
….then she had to demonstrate to the inspector that the full bathtub, full sinks, & the toilet would all drain well @ the same time (nope…the graywater irrigation was Not disclosed, but done right, & very appropriate to reuse graywater in a desert climate.
The legal loophole was an old law, & kept intact in the connection mandate, that guaranteed a variance & grandfathered-in old septics, as long as: it was the same septic the property had when the owner was notified to connect to city sewer; &, was still in usable condition.
Technically, all that leach-pit had to handle was the one toilet; it lasted at least another 30+ years, though, I think the new owner was required to connect…& by then, it cost more than mom’s fee, by a significant chunk of money more.
There really are better ways to handle waste!
The “Humanure Handbook” has been a classic for several decades.
The “Solviva” book, by Ana Eddy, about her Massachusetts farm, is even better.
And, there are some other twists to the idea, from numerous others.
There are pros & cons to most.
==> One big issue w/composting buckets/units, is, when it’s bad weather out, or, you are too sick to empty it, or, too old & decrepit to handle it…what will you do?
It is possible to modify systems (see: “Solviva) & come out with a system that essentially works same as a flush toilet. One key for that, is to add red wiggler worms to the composting container the effluent flushes into.
One composting unit that looked excellent, & was being built into houses in Africa, but then, it dropped off the map, years ago…that unit looked like a toilet indoors, but had a big Acme screw, which turned a bit each time the toilet seat lid was raised or closed, gradually moving the solids out under the wall, to a closed compost pit; liquids simply drained into the pit under a layer of leaves & dry grasses…solids landed on top of that, to compost.
There are big “bladders” to sit in a yard & all effluent is put into that to compost…toilet waste, kitchen scraps, yard waste, go into it, compost, generate methane which is piped to stove & heater & gas lights in the house, to use that (must put something like steel wool into the pipe, to catalyze-out the bad odor). . The composted solids break down, becoming great fertilizer for the plants.
Germ theory was flawed when it was made; yet most industries make products & processes that are based on that theory as-if it were true…it never was.
But now, it’s many zillion$$$$ industrie$ which fight hard to keep promoting bad science & bad products…many of which are killing us slowly or quickly.
We really need to correct the crooked path we’ve all been led down for many decades & longer. Our poo & pee ARE fertilizers. Bears poop in the woods, as do all creatures. .
The better path, would include: design composting systems that use worms to abate coliform bacteria & parasites, to create a lively finished compost for our yards/gardens, & use the liquids in the garden, also. All graywater should be reused at least once, if not more times (fresh use, then flush toilet, then liquids go through planters of water loving plants).
There is really no good excuse to keep polluting groundwater & sensitive wetlands, ocean, & other bodies of water, using sewer systems or even engineered septic systems. Engineered septics are very costly NIGHTmares!
@@Chimonger1 My parents only paid the 6,000 because my dad dug all the trenches and got everything shored up due to a steep incline. The other reason is the distance from the sewer line to the house. He purchased all of the pipes that met the requirements. The city only had to attach the pipes at the street level. Otherwise, it would have cost 5 figures.
There were a number of people in Arkansas who had a problem with their septic too. People were using all these harsh cleaners when COVID first started to try and kill the virus and keep their family safe. The septic system relied on bacteria to decompose the waste but the cleaners were killing it. Septic tanks were backing up and the companies that pump them were staying nice and busy!
Very true, one must replensh these bacteria at least once a month. They desolve the solids and paper into a liquified material that will travel in the pipes.
That's interesting!
Yeah those bacterias are in some ways fragile no chlorox or chemicals at all… and I read in the comments that people should put in once a month a special powder to feed those bacterias and no problem… I knew and the one that put in our septic tank in our country home to fill it up right away with water and a certain amount of this special powder before anything.. so if I remember right I think the man who put in the tank didn’t leave before filling it up with those things water and powder before leaving. And yes he put a slope under the tank to have it ready to let go the extra liquid correctly in the tank when full..he also put a extra pipe to let air in and gaz out … with a screen of course.
I heard also that if you don’t have this special powder you can put a whole bifidus yogurt in the toilet and it can do the job also …
First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Asians, Christians...and even many Democrats.)
I'm with you, Doug, 100%! The way we continue to treat our bodily fluids is downright ridiculous. The Humanure book should be required reading. Besides, treating it the old way is filthy and a waste of water and soil nutrients.
Cleaning a toilet (water flush or cassette type) is disgusting work. Humanure is nutrient rich, doesn't stink (done right), doesn't require protective clothing to clean up problems, etc.
It is less expensive by the thousands of dollars. No recurring bills. Adds nutrients to the earth that we have systematically drained away. And it is fairly labor free.
Oops sorry. Didn't mean to preach.
Thanks for sharing and God bless you and Stacy.
And I loved her last two videos. Good info, well presented.
I have they book great info
It's always been about the local government power and money when it comes to septic tanks. Ours and 20 of our neighbors had to collapse our septic systems that were working just fine, to then be put on a "city sewer" that would grind up your waste and pump it to a lift station. The cost; $3200.00 to install the new system of which each homeowner had to pay out of pocket. This didn't include the cost of collapsing the old system and the final yard grading work. The kicker, $135.00 a month for sewer and we are responsible for that "city grinder pump" that each of us neighbors have. If it breaks or malfunctions, it's on the homeowner. So basically, local waste departments in Indiana bully people into their forced system and you go from $0 a month to flush a toilet to $135.00.
Needless to say, we sold and moved to our off grid cabin in the middle of nowhere and use the bucket system. Makes me smile knowing that I will not pay someone to poop and pee.
@@featheredcoyote5477 $135/month!!
Do you mind saying what county?
I'd like to avoid it.
Thx
@@willbass2869 absolutely! Allen County. Its thee most desired county due to job growth over the past 10 yrs. The surrounding counties have joined in on this money train as well. What they look for are multiple homes that are close in proximity. Some guy that's a quarter mile away from his next neighbor, they don't mess with. It's all about the money and nothing to do with the poor fish swimming in the creek...the same creek that has run off from pesticides that farmers spray along with livestock.
And that 135.00 a month, that goes up twice a year like a normal utility bill. And your system is never paid for. Because we asked if we could just write a check and be done with it. Waste Department shot that down. To much money to be made.
Well... there are some reasons why that composting idea isn't particularly the wisest choice; disease and parasites are a couple of them. If people take the extra care of the location of human waste, it is given a good length of time to decompose, the pile can get up to a good composting temperature during the summers, and one pile is left alone long enough while a new pile is used... People get a bit careless, and they may not be bothered too much when they are younger, that they notice, but then they get a little older, some weakness develops that makes them more susceptible, they think it has never affected them before... and that kind of stuff can take a person out.
How wonderful to have your kids and grandkids nice and close!
Oh what a Blessing,
😍🕵😎..Mr. Doug be. "On IT.." but just so u know..'Gparent Walk'.😳..is The Hardest..imho.🙏..💚💞
My husband and I live in a tiny house in Northern California. Composting is the only way to go, and is really quiet easy. This is a good video. Very informative.
I'm so happy for you and Stacey to have your daughter and family closer to ya'll.
What a blessing to have your children and grandchildren so close!❤️
Can you get the skid-steerer all set in EXACTLY the right place on the trailer, and then paint a great big stripe on the trailer at PRECISELY the right place where you can line up a spot on the steerer so you're right over the rear axles.....that way, no getting in and out to check on it!
CONGRATS to the kids!! Lucky grandparents, too.......
Doug I get the biggest enjoyment watching you solve a problem. And the fact you help your sweet Stacey.
Stacy and Doug , thank you for sharing your Wisdom and Passion . That is the definition of Love . Blessings upon you and yours ! 💟, 🖖!
Great way to get wood delivered! Good for you Doug. Good for them Doug, wise move for them and so nice for you all to have them close to you and Stacy. The kids are so lucky to get this lovely property. Wow!!! Ours are concrete here in Kentucky, never heard of this. Too Bad!!! I sure hope the contractor will redo all this work! So sad ... Thanks for sharing and again, all the best for your kids. Yes, Stacy had some more great information for us.
So glad that some of your kids are coming closer to you that'll be really nice even for your mom to see her great-grandkids.
We had an electrical piece on our well go out three weeks ago. I didn't want to use all of our stored drinking water flushing toilets, so I got a 5 gal bucket, swept all the sawdust from our woodworking, and made a seat to fit over the bucket. Been using it ever since even though the well was working again less than two days after it went out. It works great! Gets that compost pile cooking hot too!
First plan on the new world order Georgia Guidestones is for 93% of all people to be disappeared. (That includes blacks, whites, Mexicans, Asians, Christians...and even many Democrats.)
Gabriela Jimenez was videoed saying she was enslaved and saw people eating people. She moved her hands to her mouth while explaining how they were eating. She said they smelled like humans. She said billionaire Carlos Slim knew about it. Police took her away and I've read she was never seen again. Gabriela was a little frantic, as would be anybody, and why is she missing now?
@@clickhereforshowittoothers2184 Lol
It's very difficult to quantify and appreciate the existing infrastructure unless you have started from scratch.
Oh! You are so lucky to have your kids move closer to you. What a joy it will be to have the opportunity to see them and your grandkids. I bought another 35 acre lot next to ours 20 yrs ago. My sister lived in it for a year or 2. Then left back to the city where they live in an apartment. (Country life required to much work for them). My daughter moved back after she got out of the Marines and tried living there. (My kids hated living in the country) She didn't last a year.
I rented it out and had some good, but mostly bad renters who always trashed the property out.
I was ready to sell when some very good friends asked if we still had it available. It was such a disaster when they came to look at it. They said we will clean and fix it up. They have been here 1 yr and 2 months and have done so much work. There is a 5000 gal metal tank set up to catch water off the garage to use for gardening. They went to look inside it yesterday and it is full of trash. 🤬 I am so angry that anyone would do this. We will overcome this too.
So happy for your family, country life is the best.🙂
What state?
I can’t get enough of your channel. What a blessing to have your family close.
With the way things are going it is smart for families to live close and off grid
Some family s don't get along enough to come together.
@@staceyjacobs518 I didn't say live together I said live close because of the time we live in. Families need to help each other
You forgot the most important part about surviving the apocalypse and that is the fact that we cannot do it without the Father in heaven. ❤🙏🏼 God bless.
YOUR DAUGHTER, DID GOOD ON BUYING THAT PROPERTY & NEAR YOU & STACY. Do take care. Fl.
Built a new house and had the septic professionally installed. 30 days later water was backing up into the house. Called the septic company and they came out and diagnosed the problem and said the septic failed and I would have to pay for a new one to be installed. I said no way! I called the company again, talked with someone who had a brain. They came out and diagnosed it correctly: The house had settled and the main drain was pushing up against a baffle in the tank. They dug down, removed the pipe, cut 6" off of it and reinstalled it. Voila! Worked perfectly for years. Thanks for sharing Doug!!!!
The house should not have settled if it had a propper foundation.
@@royreynolds108 It was a 1200 square foot log home with cathedral ceilings 22' tall with 22" logs built on a 5" concrete slab.
We have a septic tank and leach line here in Texas. I just created a grocery row garden over the last 60’ or so of leach line.
Best of both worlds! 😀
Thanks Doug for sharing this.
So thankful that you and Stacy have your family so close to you and oh what a BEAUTIFUL Amish homestead they bought! So Amazing ♥️
Hello Denise
it's great that your kids live close to you doug & Stacey take care and stay safe
Great info because I can tell my daughter for when they move onto their acreage! Congratulations to your kids for getting such a beautiful property & many buildings!
Beautiful place your kids bought next to you very nice having them close by .
Hello Loretta
Love you, Doug and Stacy, and so appreciate all the invaluable information you give us here. I'm not there yet-- but as soon as i can, i'm going to use the 5-gallon bucket plan! with sawdust. I have the buckets, now for the 'rest of the story!' Thanks so much. Y'all are a blessing to us. May God richly reward you 🙏✝♥
Our septic system has worked fine for us for the las 18 years. I have it pumped out and inspected every 3 years. I also flush some septic maintenance solution down the toilet every other month or so. Helps that it was well installed.
My grandparents had the bucket system for years in Tasmania. Gees I even remember having to use newspaper, when toilet paper ran out. I love the farm in Meander. Having to live in cities has not been fulfilling. I am moving to my Dad's village when I retire in Austria. Village is called Mauthen. For me it will be skills learned and to hell with the city. Unfortunately unless you have an alpine hut you have to connect to local sewage
Personally I have been using a LP gas ECO john incinerating toilet for about 2 years now. It literally burns the shit into ash. Using about 2 15lb propane tanks per year. Needs emptying maybe 2 months. Great for the garden. Now when I throw table food scraps into the mulch bin, not only do the actually start growing they will produce food. Yes, I actually harvest lettuce, sweet potatoes, strawberries directly from the mulch bin. Not what I wanted but a good problem to have I guess.
How does this system look like? Amazing
First year for a septic for us ( city water sewer) we had ours pumped out cleaned and checked in November. Concrete to tank and riser, we didn't fill ours. Our sewer guy said no need since we are using ( have no shower yet). It's been fine thank God! Although will investigate further to not get in a mess next time or at least clean out in May!
Maine here
God bless
My parents had a septic tank that had a big mound about 4 feet high that was over the septic tank. On one side of the mound there was a fabulous Tangelo tree that always provided abundant fruit and never required watering. Best tangelos I ever tasted. Just a thought to keep in mind if you find you need to get creative with that thing.
That happened to me with a concrete tank many years ago. I built a home on some land in Texas 25 years ago to survive being off grid but our property taxes threaten our home and land as the county steals most of our income in the form of property taxes. Locals have renamed Texas to Taxas.
Doug you are right about tanks popping out of the ground my plumber told me to put water in the tank to keep in the ground but the health Dept. said if I put water in it I would be fined and forced to have septic pumping Co. come and pump it even though it was clear water. I also had a out door shower built over a 10in. gravel bed and he made me take it apart because he said that I was polluting.
Move 👍
I'm a plumber and it all comes down to being a grown up and being responsible. I don't wait on anyone to finish for me. Stay until the job is done. That's what gives everybody else a bad name. If I lived in Missouri I.would come and fix it for em
As always, you provided me with information that isn’t easy to find on your own until you get stuck with a mess! Thanks so much!!!
I like your composting system. We put in a septic for $10,000 a while back. We hit a butt load of rock. Not fun, but I can revert to your system if I ever need too.I’m in Missouri too.
We bought a place in 1999 in a small neighborhood in the country and all the houses all had small lagoons in our back yards. We had 5 acre plots and they were in the back side of those. We never had any problems!
How awesome to have your family close. You are an awesome dad and grandpa
Go over that statement where you talk about the weight on the trailer. I have always heard the weight needs to be forward of the rear axles for the load to be stable.
Depending on your well, it can take a LONG TIME to fill your tank. Our local fire station came and filled our tank, but it did take several days because it is a one man operation. We live in SC and composting toilets are allowed as a secondary toilet, so you must be on sewer or have a septic system.
a mushroom factory i worked at back in the mid 70's had inground fuel oil tanks. one of the maintenance men was related to the company that supplied the fuel. he always worried that there wasnt enough oil to hold the tank in the ground.
Most fuel tanks have big concrete piers that they sit on and are chained to. This keeps them from floating. Really surprised this wasn't done for that tank. The piping that I saw being used was that thin walled stuff that you find around sinks. I would insist on schedule 40 pipe. This was a bad installer. Was he a traveller (gypsy) or did he just keep getting what sits on the commode with that hole in the ground?
Doug sence that tank has already floated they would be better off to put in a 1000 to 1500 gallon concrete septic system. Those tanks wil crack and leak if not installed properly. The plastic tanks will cause you more trouble in the long run.
Yes. We were required to put in a concrete system and a large leaching field by the state and town. And never have had a problem in 20 years! That plastic system doesn't look very safe for the weather.
@@cyndiburns7932 We have installed both you just need to fill the plastic tank 1/2 full of water ,so it does not get pushed out of the fresh ground .the tank i only under 6" of soil .Plastic is cheep and no heavy equipment to install it.
So awesome your daughter is going to be close! Glad they listened to you 🙏
Good one. Don't let ya boat float. Nice area. Wide open. Grandkids. Life is odd. We convoad a while back. Shitz has hit the fizz..and gonna get worse. You guys are well prepped. Looks cold.
Here in WV, I don't live off grid but I do live in the country without a "commercial" sewer system. We use septic tanks with leech fields and I have never seen a problem in my 55+ years. That being said, you are correct, it is so important to have it installed correctly. The tank size should be a minimum of 300 gallons per bedroom (900 gallon for my house) and a leech bed that is perfectly level and is the correct size as determined by the perk test. I don't know of anyone around me that has to do any more maintenance than flush bacteria down a commode a couple times per year. You are so correct in saying that there are many options. Whatever way a person chooses, the most important thing is to install it correctly the first time. I'm so sorry for your daughter's difficulty, but what's life without a few challenges to overcome? Peace be with you my friend.
Thanks for the video Doug and God bless y'all. 😇🙏 I have always liked the simplicity of the composting toilet system. It yields a soil like fertilizer " humus ", it is compost safe for the landscape, and it leaves little to no odor. It is a self contained unit. Septic systems can be challenging to maintain especially if something goes wrong, like a leak or system clog. 🚽😁👍
Doug you're pretty good at using all of that machinery!
I've been using the humanure/bucket system for 7 years on our 40 acres. Also no refrigerator for 7 yrs. It has worked just fine Our county even offers a permit and instructions to build a 55 gallon (PVC) barrel composting toilet. The toilet seat is removable so when it's full you move the seat to a new barrel.
progressive county!
I've been using a composting toilet for abt 4 yrs and dump it in a corral w all the weeds far away from anything. no refrigeration here either.
Thank God our septic people have been in business for 40 years and are just awesome
That's amazing I'm a 3rd generation excavation contractor and I've installed hundreds of septic systems and the new york state health department would never let you put one of thoses lagoon type deals in. Its always fascinating to see how difernt they do some things in other parts of the country.
I have turned into a Doug and Stacy binger 🤣😂 and I’m loving it
Wow
So awesome your daughter and family were able to get that homestead. Very nice!
Never heard of a lagoon septic system.
I grew up on a outdoors toilet, it was covered and a dòorand a 80 foot well with the best water ever especially the city water whi c h TY he neighbor had. Reallt enjoy your shows which i watch on my TV from mt phone. Stacús voice was wringing a familiar sound, it was Gracie Allens voice on the Gracie and George Burns show many years ago. Its a compliment. God. Be with all
That is a gorgeous house I’m very jealous.
Great information Doug .Thank you.I didn’t know an empty. tank was subject to that.
I plan to use a plastic septic tank as a cellar/food cache…but I plan on chaining in to concrete anchors, filling the bottom with a concrete floor (for extra weight), and placing drainage pipe to daylight at the bottom (will be on a slope) and covering the whole thing in pea gravel and landscape fabric before dirt.
I think/hope all of that will keep it from floating.
What a Blessing to have your children nearby!! Wow! That Septic tank problem is So Disappointing...😢
Wow I learned alot today !. Once again you have taught me something valuable. Thank you Doug!
Doug, Family. Best kind of neighbours! Regards Stephen.
Thanks for all the great information Doug. I had no idea about the septic tank problem. Ours is concrete in sandy soil so probably not an issue but it's interesting none the less.
Off grid we have a Johnny on the spot with an 8’ hole, filled regularly by ground water, leaching among sandstone
Whew! Those first few minutes had me on the edge of my seat!
So happy for you to have your grand-kids right around the corner! Oopsie on that septic system. Somebody boo-boooed big time. It's twice as hard to redo that stuff because taking those connections apart ain't gonna be easy. We've opted for the compost toilet too!
Yes indeed, we need to have some sort of back up. I only have an acre but its getting fenced and more veg and herb garden added. I would not want to rely on the grocery store 100% The expense is ridiculous now. I'm from BC Canada, groceries are going up every week. Gas is $1.95 a litre, that is approx $8.00 a gallon. Love you videos, good and solid ideas. You are living the right way. Glad your children will follow suit.
Septic is very fragile when it comes to certain chemicals..I almost have my septic done..just waiting on one more load of rock. Have a great day !!!
Holy moly, they really waited until the last few sticks. I seem to remember them asking about only needing a very small amount of wood for the winter.... it goes a lot faster than you realize
Today you had me worried for your safety. You are wize and well informed I know but still worried for you God be with you and Stacy
No worries
Great to have family close i miss those days when i was a kid aunts uncles and cousins
You got that right .I am worried about the future also
Your such a good Dad and Grampa
Boy was this an eye opener! Now I know what one of my friends is in for when it comes time to get his septic system flushed out. So sorry that happened to your daughter's family. At the same time, thanks for keeping us informed so should we face such a decision we can be fully aware of what we're getting into.
So great your family is close to you!
I was glad to see that it was family that you were delivering the firewood to. I was thinking at first that it was going to be an awfully expensive delivery for one tote of wood. Looks like your operation will work quite well.
i think you made the right decision with buckets.
I've done a good bit of real estate development and building it I've never seen a concrete septic tank pop out of the ground No matter what
I love your channel, man, thank you. I just bought 20 acres in MO. It's gonna be a busy winter.
Congratulations to your children for getting such a beautiful property and how lucky they were that you Doug have your finger on the pulse and letting them know about the property. Why did the other people move if they had been there for so long? Have a lovely day and I am glad your son and his family are close by to you and Stacy.
Good information for anyone getting a septic tank installed.
Hey, Doug. What your kids need to do is get in touch with my husband, who is a genius wrt septic systems of all sorts. He's an engineer and I learned so much from him I could see the problems here. He could have your kids sorted in 10 minutes. And haha, no. Don't try to dig your own septic system, esp with such a high water table
Who ever put it in is responsable to fix it .They just have to wait till the ground thaws!
@@andrewslagle1974 Did you even read what I wrote? I'm not talking about time and place, I'm talking about upping the skill level. Good grief
I certainly did not know that about brand new septic tanks, but they need to be filled up immediately! I wonder if even cement septic tanks pop out if they’re empty… So readily, anyway.
It was comforting to see how careful you were manipulating the skid steer up the ramp and onto the trailer… It was a little tense for me to watch … I did not want to witness an accident, but I don’t think you would put your viewers through that; it would be too heart, wrenching to see anything happen to our dear ‘old’ determined daddy Doug. 😊🥰
Spring is coming and I need to watch Stacy’s ‘60’ video🐝🐝♥️
A lot of work for 1 cubic meter of wood. Cutting a tree, shopping it in lengths, splicing it, piling it up, filling a crate and transporting it to the customer.
I had to install a sand filter septic system due to close to s stream. Worked really good.
NY/ Fl city girl here buying 5.7 acres in Theodosia, Mo in a few weeks. It's going to be interesting for sure lol but thanks to your CH, I'll be able to do a few things myself.
I've installed concrete tanks for a long time. They never popped out. I have to ask, why do they have to wait until spring to fix it? We would have already put that back. And for the ones asking why use plastic instead of concrete, they do not deteriorate. Everything above the water line will start to break down from the gases.
In Sweden you have ancor the wessel in concret slab...sorry.
And her videos are always creatively inspired by the teacher in her. Good examples & tips. A plus.
We had to install a septic system. It’s the law here in our state, even for only grey water(WV). We live in the country, but not far enough out not to get caught and reported. But we still use the bucket system for our toilet so only grey water is going into the septic, and we only use all natural plant based cleaners in our house. So we are very careful not to put chemicals down our drains.
I’m interested to know what happens to your grey water? I don’t recall ever seeing it in any of the videos.
Hi. I am curious about your setup, as I am in the same situation, here in Arkansas. Bought under ten acres, and in city limits, and by law have to do the septic. So you just didn't install a toilet, that would go into the septic? Just showers, sinks, etc? Thanks
@@laurieasmus9998 hi! Correct. We have normal sinks/shower etc. We also have city water right now, because where we currently live we do not have the space to do a rain water catchment system building large enough to keep it from freezing in the winter. But we wanted to do as many off grid things as possible right now, so we have the same toilet system as Doug and Stacy. Feel free to check out our channel. We have documented our entire process of building our tiny house and lifestyle
@@theflorencesoffgridjourney2960 thx so much! just trying to find all the people to do all the things for a small house because I am not handy enough to do it myself. Like the septic. I hate that I will pay all that money and not really use it but that is the way it is. Did you even put in a toilet? Like for visitors who don't understand the composting toilet? LOL ...I will go check out your channel.
@@laurieasmus9998 nope. Our house is only 320 square feet so we had no room for a toilet. The way we saw it was that this is our home and our life and if people are uncomfortable with our toilet, they don’t have to us it. But so far everyone has been really intrigued and willing to learn.
Doug, your "PULSE" is 100% spot on... hopefully more are listening... Great video!
I wonder if the leech pond could also benefit by raising catfish or carp in it, which could be another food resource?
Gross lol they have that other real pond for that
@@OFFGRIDwithDOUGSTACY , gross now, but not when needed... could be bartered as well... just thinking LOL
We have an inground system that's been here 35 years and we used it with no toilet paper. Toilet paper goes into a separate waste basket in each bathroom and it's a leech field and it works great. No smell. We live on 25 acres. Plenty of room. The bleach field is downhill slightly away from the house and it all works. Remember no paper
Whoa!!!
When they put in our new Septic last fall, we HAD to fill it because the water running in from the old drainage field caused it to float in the pit. Thankfully we did that. Crazy mess!!
I'm not sure how people can not have septic systems in our area. Even if you have an outhouse, where is all your grey water from washing dishes, laundry, and bathing go??
Trying to figure it out for future reference.
Love yall keep up the good work yall God bless yall Doug and Stacy's yall are the Best!!
Great video Doug. Ur kids are very fortunate right now.
I love how Rambo keeps running back to you!!! So cute!
Hi there! Your videos are so very informative. Just found you guys last night. Will look forward to watching many more thank you. Greetings take care from Southern Oregon.
Hi DOUG and Stacy I wish we had things together we have been moving back and for ,but now we are in the country to stay. Just had our septic put in. We have a wood cook stove like yours.