Penzance-Truro (West Cornwall Local) - Train Sim World 2
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Driving the Class 150 Diesel Hydraulic train from Penzance to Truro in the West Cornwall Local DLC of Train Sim World 2. We'll start off by cleaning the train at the local depot.
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Here in the US we have GPS to tell us when the rear of our trains have cleared a speed restriction or crossing. Before GPS we had footage counters on board. Push a button and it starts counting up, then just reset when your length has cleared.
In the UK some trains have distance travelled calculators based on taco i.e. an axle counter. But thats mostly freight locos.
Passenger trains vary from 2 cars to 10 for the majority and in real life speed boards are placed in such a way that you wouldnt be breaking the speed limit even if you accelerated as quickly as possible after passing them i.e. overlap between when a speed limit increases and when your told you about it.
Either way based on the speed before the speed limit you can work out how many seconds to wait before accelerating if needed. 60mph is just under 25 metres per second. Most carriages are between 20 and 25 meters so at 60mph leave 1 second per carriage, 30 leave 2 seconds per carriage etc etc.
As soon as Squirrel mentioned he didn't know the answer to this question, I went straight to the comments. Thanks for the insight, I was wondering the same thing.
13:37 "The animations have been improved a fair bit"
*passenger falls through the floor*
Typical DTG quality right there. Realism is key
@@ianmalcolm7782 DTG should shut down because of this, their Train Sims always terrible. Even SCS has better quality than DTG.
lol, it's been a while since i played, well i forgot i have Train Sim World, the original. I remember trying to run down the train, and i could not exit. One passenger was blocking the darn door
Having spent an unfortunate amount of time on 150's, that's what they are actually like. It did run for about an hour without malfunctioning in some way, so not entirely realistic.
What about the pacers?
you forgot the doors not closing, that may be a feature...
It's likely a bug, even Squirrel believes it's a bug,.
All trains can malfunction, everything can malfunction. I bet you people wish that everything can never malfunction.
@@automation7295 yes I do, would make my job a lot easier 😜
The only small thing that bugs me with a lot of British route scenarios is the wait time at small stations ,in real life 1 or 2 passengers get on and the wait time would be about 10 seconds , doors close and off you go again ,on TSW it's about 30 /40 seconds and if your on tight schedule in the game it adds up
In real life you have a timetable. You can wait minutes if you arrive early or timing is built in or leave asap if your running late.... either way most stops are timed for about a minute so 10 seconds would be unrealistic
10 seconds? No it isn't.
Definitely isn't ten seconds in the UK. Minimum 30 seconds to a minute
What? Utter rubbish. You're on a timetable. You are being held at the station to keep up with your timings and it's completely normal on regional routes.
@@whittlepixels5633 yes it is
As someone who works right next to the station in redruth, and lives in Truro, the level of detail is insane in this. The level crossings are in the right places, the buildings localised to the stations are spot on...its fantastic. To answer a couple of questions you raised in the video, the 40 limit coming into Redruth is because you're going over a bridge immediately before stopping on the platform, and the branch line coming out of Truro goes down to Falmouth
hello Paul. Great video and me being a Cornishman has to say its a real shame that Penzance doesn't actually show St. Michaels Mount which is an area of land that is accessible to people when the tide is out. It can be walked from Penzance direct to St. Michaels Mount. I have also driven this route on TSW2 and it was a real pleasure. I would love to know if Truro to Falmouth would be a thing in the future. Always love your content buddy...keep it up.
There's a glimpse of it at 18:53 when he's outside the train looking SE - I'm guessing the train's just past the old Marazion station building.
Hi
As someone who passes through Truro a lot (and also visits) that station is incredibly accurate! If they have it in the game would love to see you do the GWR falmouth line
Agreed
The single track line out of Truro is the maritime line - modeled in Train sim 2020: Falmouth Branch.
About the "knowing when the end of the train passes the speed limit", there are a few possibilities:
Some trains have built in functions where you program in the length of your train and while driving you hit a switch in the cabin and the system will calculate from the current speed and the length of the train when the end of the train passes the point where you activated the system.
On most tracks there are distance markers of some kind that can be used to estimate the distance traveled, these can be numbered signs that indicate to the driver where on the route they are or for example on electrified routes the distance between catenary poles is relatively standardized, so the train driver can count the poles to estimate the distance, give it a pole or two of leeway and you know when the back of the train passes the speed limit.
In real life you re not gonna lose points if you re going 5 km/h above speed limit. :)
And in passenger trains i don t think it s that hard to estimate the length of the train. I m curious about the US trains, when there s 80 cars, that would be awesome to know how they know.
Squirrel, you have left the back cab door open from Penzance to Truro.
This is a pleasent surprise. Wasn't expecting this.
They’ve got the stations pretty spot on, I live in Redruth, that’s about 16 miles away from Penzance, pretty local to me. Glad they’ve added this in
I'm also from redruth. So cool to see how they've done everything
The layout is reasonably accurate, although its from awhile ago (there are a few sections of track at long rock and St Erth that are gone now). Interesting to watch as I live in Hayle, work in Penzance (opposite the depot) and visit the pub in Lelant! For what its worth I've never seen a train using the train cleaner at the depot either. Maybe one day...
Also Redruth train station wasn't realistic. Also train stop though crambone on Wednesday. Also going through Scorrier and Blackwater line was not real as well :(
@@Gotta_Bee_Sam you realize this route is set in the late 90s/early 2000s like he says in the video right?
The things in here were probably correct 15 years ago or so when this route is modeled.
Tripped over this as you do. Interesting to see so much of the modelling looks quite accurate - the walls outside Pz station, the '3 arches' as we know them where a stream runs out to the sea. IN the distance waterside they've even modeled St.Michael's Mount! Clever stuff!
Always like to see a train sim video. A rare treat.
The structure you saw on the right (48:34ish) and were unsure of its purpose, was an engine house (steam) to pump water out of the nearby tin mine. Great videos my friend, many thanks.
Born and raised in Truro, the station and surroundings of it are very accurate👍
Not
Wtf!I live between Truro and Penzance it's my home town and it's sooo relastic 😅well station are. At Redruth Station it would be main Post Office across the station to left and the buildings look different.
That bridge at 49:47 is there in real life and so it's that old station
AT 48:33 that's an old mine house where we use to mine for copper, led etc. That's actually one of wheel busy mine and to left in real life would be opened up and you would be able to see a Jaguar dealer ship and the A30
I hope train sim world 2 can link all of its dlc content together and let you play on a big map
Yea rn only a few sets of dlc link
@@dukc9012 ok
I go on holiday to Truro every year, amazing place and an amazing map.
Many times I’ve been on a train from Penzance to Paddington, Penzance, long rock and Marazion look just like that in reality.
That ghost station near the wash thing is Marazion.
It closed. It is now a holiday home on the side of the tracks. Closed in the 80s I think.
They really should have extended this line to Plymouth. Going over the Tamar bridge would have been great!
I live in Truro and commute to work in Redruth via a car and at 48:45 to the left is a dual carriageway which I use to commute to and from work twice a day. And going on from what Paul says about putting speed cameras on downhills, on the same dual carriageway further back towards Hayle where it merges into a 2 lane road is a part called "The Big Dipper" and on either side it has speed cameras on the downslops to catch you out
Literally Cornwalls only income is from downhill speed cameras.
In India 2 things are used to know whether the train has cleared the section from speed restricted area-
1. Markers indicating (1st Moto coach clear, that means 25% in case of Mumbai local, successive boards till 4th Motor coach cleared).
2. The train guard is station on the trailing end of EMU. They ring a switch to let driver know that the train has cleared the section.
I live in penzance and it's not always that beautiful. Normally in the summer and a few days a year. Except from that it's miserable 🤣🤣
Amazing to see how much better than the old train sim this is. They finally managed to update the graphics. The old game looks so dated
Train sim 2022 doesn’t look too bad. And train sim has the advantage of more routes and trains than train sim world.
Train Sim World 2 looks better but Train Sim 20xx has better routes, locos and content overall. I play both and I hate how Sim World took a step back in some areas (like the camera angles, scenario builders, AWS, etc)
I'm still pretty disappointed with the sounds of the 150 on this route except the brake squeal, that is quite accurate
Yeah it sounds nice on tickover and brake noises sound good but the engine sounds could use some work.
This is my local train run looks amazing
St Earth - St Ives has to be the nicest bit of line in the world.
I can confirm on Cornish trains you have to phase through the floor to board
Nice to see some TSW 2 again! Really like this route. Sure, it can be better in a few places, but it's a pretty nice route. Would love to see a video on London Commuter in the future though. When I drive on it, it always reminds me of one of the first videos of yours I watched, where you took the Crosscountry Voyager from Brighton to East Croydon. Goodness, that must have been about 7 or 8 years ago now. My, how the years have flown by. But yeah, would really love to see a video on there at some point, as it's one of, if not my favourite route in TSW.
this was awesome! One year ago, I made this commute 5 days a week to go to work.
Ah the class 150 Sprinters, sheer luxury in comparison to the now scrapped 142/143 Pacers, because they actually put these on bogies, rather than fixed axles with bus suspension... :P
They're actually so smooth ☺
I still prefer a pacer. 150’s are okay but a bit boring imo, I love the bounciness and engine sounds on the pacer. 150 not bouncy enough for me.
Gotta love the scenery 😍 These vids are so relaxing lol
Remember, train doesn’t stop at Camborne on Wednesdays ;-)
Train takes a gamble stopping there full stop.... locals have it up on bricks within minutes if it's there too long
LEGENDS BACK!
I live in penzance and work in longrock (by depot) the track is spot on . But there are about a 1000 trees to many. I understand to make fps good they would want to block off anything far away but penzance is a town like any other so more buildings would have ben better.
I've just made a similar comment. My family are from Lelant. Scenary needs to be realistic.
I take it that this was not filmed on a Wednesday, as the train don't stop at Cambourne on Wednesdays!
Just because trans don't stop at Cambourne on Wednesdays doesn't mean he's not allowed play it on Wednesdays.
Why do people apply real life in gaming?
It's set in the 1990s
Ever driven down a road to a underwater tunnel with a 8% gradient, single file and a speed camera at the top and bottom to measure the time between and compare to a minimum time you should keep to be below the speedlimit? The tunnel drops 133 meters below sea-level. It's for cars and trucks.
Surely it's the Guard that opens the doors at stations not the driver.
Driver waits for the two buzzes.
As for braking too early don’t feel bad mate! Not everyone has the Same spatial awareness to gauge distances - We’re all human haha
There is an old black and white British Transport film on here that explains everything about the old DMU 101, it is very interesting to watch. Squirell you do not need to go to Neutral all the time between gears, you just drop the revs, wait a scecond or two and engage the next gear .
Also coast in gear 4
Sick video i went to cornwall a few months ago very calmin
Nice to see a video on this 1, st austell to truro is my sailing commute, a fun little route to drive
as a person who lives in truro there are a few inaccuracies with the station. First, the station he arrived on is platform 1 not 3. Second, the train tracks to the left of the station dont exist, its a car park not a train yard. Third and finally there should be houses to the left side before the train goes under the final tunnel, im really fussy because this is my home city.
Remember this route is set in the 90's so things have changed.
18:54 is St.Michael's mount. Scenery isn't actually real... because near there I believe there is a Sainsbury's with fuel station too but it's showing countryside. But I do recognise Michel's mount. been there many a time :)
you left the back driver door open lol
Stations are a little outdated. I live in Cornwall and take this line often. Penzance has a shelter where the trains stop now and St Erth had a park and ride and a whole extension added on. Hayle is still pretty accurate as it hasn’t changed much. This is about 10 years behind I’d say but it’s still pretty cool seeing it in-game :)
This route is based on the late 90s and early 2000s like he says multiple times in the video, Kailena.
Idk about elsewhere but in the US crews know how long their trains are and there are mile posts every quarter mile.
16:20. The aws you passed over was for the other direction
35 mins into the vid, disused station Gwinear Road, used to be a branch south to Helston, killed by Dr Beeching
Its a good DLC I just wish they included the maritime line from Truro to Falmouth though
I've skipped the train on this line a few times in my day, until they added turnstiles at Truro that is.
I really hope they eventually add another Underground Route like the Metropolitan Line with its S8 Stock or the Circle Line with C77.
Licensing wouldn’t be a problem bc the gwr main line to reading is in the game
this sim needs vr
Isn't there this song about train driving, "It's all about the brakes, 'bout the brakes no throttles"
pressing 9 brings down the map and you can switch the tracks there, the whole way if needed.
Train don't stop Camborne Wednesdays. Jethro Joke :)
Wow just watched one of your older videos, man I miss the old intro
Love train sim very relaxing 😌
Yes he's back !
I find that to keep most of the schedules you have to run the train within 1-2 MPH of the speed limit. If the limit is 70 then you need to be running 68-69 or 70 to get around any issues you may run into. Red lights, etc.... You seemed to run 10-20 mph under the limit at the beginning....Also, if you are running at the speed limit as you just see the station you can brake easily to stop in plenty of time... When I ride transit trains in USA (real life) they tend to fly into stations and slow very quickly to stop.
I'm also wondering how you know when the rear of the train passes a point.
I know that in some of them you can insert the length and push a button. Then it will notify you when you passed that length.
I guess most just use their experience and estimate it based on length, speed and time.
In reality it won't be that critical if you start accelerating a bit too early. Or you wait a little longer to be safe.
I've spoken with real American freight trains engineers and they told me unless they are approaching a turn that also has a speed increase they tend to just throttle it once the cab passes the sign.
I beleive it all comes down to route knowledge, drivers have to know routes they're signed on like the back of their hand (every signal, junction, road crossing, etc...) so I'm sure they'd know the landmarks to judge when was the correct time to accelerate.
Do you plan to check out the Airports DLC for Cities: Skylines?
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15:58 is it my eyes are too tired or am I seeing the back of the train door is still open???
They need to make a Dawlish route.
I'm from near one of those stations. They do look exactly as the are
Super
Do Brighton mainline
I USED TO LIVE IN CORNWALL
Squirrel, have you stopped doing your MSFS 2020 tutorials?
not really knowledgeable about trains but i cant help but wondering where the diesel engine is lol, i always think of train diesel engines as being huge, like a full car
Dont matter if your late or not in this game you dont loose any points or change gold medal status that's why i prefer train simulator as it makes you work harder for gold
It’s amazing
I know a guy who lives in Truro, I wonder how accurate the line is.
yep
The time period with this livery and with the livery the 101 is in takes place around the 80s when sectarisation came in.
1990s about 1992 the 101s on this line are sets from the Midlands or London depending on if you have the diesel legends for the London sets in real life the 101s in there later years late 80s-2000s where very worn out that's why on TVL you have to use the class 31s to tow the 101s on certain passenger services on this route however the Midlands sets are based in the Manchester region while the London sets are based in Old Oak Common or Reading train care depot.
When you were at 1.3 miles i was 1.3 miles 🙃
The class 150\2 is a diesel multiple unit. Its not a diesel electric
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LIVE IN TRURO
Padstow, cornwall team!
@@WIIGGYX Redruth
Hayle. Too many trees in this scenario.
Hey squirrel what controller u used for the train sim? Im having a hard time in which to get?
Are you ever going to do Trucking diaries for ATS or ETS again?
Leeds to Sheffield please!
First time I watched TSW2 to be honest, I play TS since 2011. Does it have the Flying Scotsman? I'd love to see that scenario.
Steam trains aren't yet in TSW2. As they are difficult to develop accurately so I've been told, but they will be coming eventually
@@JazzarGK should be in the game in a few months. They hust announced the first steam route that comes with two trains.
Drive a pacer next. In train sim.
Does it work VR? Might give it a whirl it does.
A question, what game will be the next series ?
No metro doc for Newcastle?
How do I drive a 158 or HST in GWR livery on this route?
Out of the station no amber light before the red? What the... I wanna like this game but it's frustrating when the little 1% don't work properly
I think that is actually realistic because it is basically a station signal mire than a aspect signal.
Unfortunately, I got motion sickness after about a minute watching this vid because of constant camera changes. Prefer your Flight Simulator vids but thanks anyway Squirrel.
I call turn churro lol
Truto
These trains operate for tfw as well and the brake squeal’is painful
150s are not driver only. Why is there no Conductor operating the doors and giving the ready to start buzzer signal etc? Totally unrealistic to have the driver do that.Also the sound of the 150 engine is way off.
@Liam Moore I can't believe that, I've never known 150s to be DOO in passenger service for any TOC.
@@Supersonic8984 you can be a guard you spawn as a passenger and go where the guard sits and do the guard things.
Wax on wax off 😊
I think Regional Railways died in 1994 with privatisation
Hi Squirrel