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Thanks for great vid mate! Still deffo on the right and pro free speach, but really good to see someone articulate a lot of the issues with the right wing in the age of the internet. Glad I am not the only one!
@@jimmyhackers8980 if politics is the reason detach from that, its not a personal attack, but a way of thinking and of seeing how others think. It is very important in order to not fall down into echo chambers and a skill few bother to practice these days
The amount of humility to not only admit that you were wrong, but the compassion to also paint your former side not as villains (but misguided), really makes this video top tier. Appreciate your story man.
That is something I forget to do as someone who was raised with conservative beliefs and changed my viewpoints. Sometimes when you’ve changed for the better, you hate the old parts of yourself and you hate it when you see it in other people. I have to remind myself that most people with conservative beliefs are like I was, just trying to do what’s right but they’ve been deceived.
I think the most important thing to realize is that most people have their political opinions because they care about something in a loving way and that their love is manipulated to give power to people who might be malicious or who might also come from a place of love who are just misunderstanding a system too complex to properly analyze
@@jole5468I like to believe that but the amount of absolute hypocrisy inherent in most southern rural conservatives is too much for me to forgive and that is also coming from someone who used to be one of them.
I saw Jimmy on snapchat and he was well spoken and seemed genuine. However, he used misinformation to represent maga and inequality saying the right controls the media and social media. The wealthy democrats like bill gates own the Washington post, Facebook, Twitter till Elon bought it, etc. The ciazzz also pays reporters to filter information. Kamala called out Elon saying free speech needs to be regulated so people can’t speak freely to millions online essentially. Yes inequality needs to be addressed but it’s a total lie to say the party of the right is the party of rich people. The left support huge taxes in Cali because the rich uses tax loopholes like qualified small business stock exemptions to invest 50 million and sell the company for 5 billion 100% tax free and rollover the rest into new companies tax free. Yes I extremely dislike VP Vance cause he lied about hatians. But don’t hate on populism or a guy supported by the masses. Tons of democrats were populists like JFK, FDR, etc. Reagan was a populist and extremely bad when he sold cocaine and then prosecuted people that bought his drugs. He was bad. But fundamentally look at Obama he supported the rich first and foremost. Rich rule said the greatest handout the rich got was when presidents pushed interest rates to zero which Obama did for years and the eventually it happened under trump after the federal reserve cut rates in 2019 or 2020. But you have to admit Obama dropping rates to zero making money free it was essentially a huge and massive tax cut or the equivalent of it. If the cost of capital drops dramatically it makes your profits way bigger meaning tax rates can stay the same and the rich earn way more still cause the government made cost of capital way cheaper essentially free for the rich. The academic left even in college believes in Keynesian economics and until you actually think about the cost of money and the institutionalized theft that happens when you create new currency out of thin air you’ll be indoctrinated thinking it’s moral because you simply just regurgitate what your professors teach you. Colleges don’t teach you to have healthy skepticism and question things in your mind. My tax professor thought estate taxes were moral even though the constitution says direct taxes must be apportioned amongst the states, and they never taught really that a lot of assets goes up simply cause the quantity of currency in existence continues to expand a lot keeping the inequality or bubbles in existence. They may mention it briefly but never to question if it’s moral or ethical or they’ll say it’s needed to maintain jobs but won’t admit it’s the largest reason for wealth inequality. If Obama would have let interest rates normalize or stay higher rather than taking them to zero for instance yes jobs would have been lost but the ultra rich would have lost a tremendous amount of money bringing wealth inequality down. There’s a reason Warren buffet supports democrats and still is filthy rich. He said he wants moats and protectionism for his businesses which is exactly what government agencies do is help protect his business. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have agencies and regulations but you must always discuss how that the government actually helps big corporations and make the left richer, too. It’s not just the right. Democrats used to be the party of the people but look at how many monopolies owned by democrat billionaires that exist. Democrats of the past were against massive monopolies and oligarchs and today seem to be the same party of the right but they differ on some issues to virtue signal. Amazon or bezos lawsuit in Georgia showed how DEI is used to increase diversity at warehouses because studies show the greater there’s diversity the less likely there are going to be unions! They’re using the woke movement to make more money essentially. Personally I’m not a fan of unions as I’ve read history and how unions abuse members or ran by the mob etc. but Amazon or bezos is horrible for virtue signaling when they’re really using the movement to help them. Also if you care about wealth inequality think about this issue. If you have idk 300 million people or whatever in the U.S. and you bring in 30 million illegal immigrants over a decade and they’re 10% of the U.S. population obviously you’re going to make wealth inequality way worse statistic wise because you’re bringing in such a huge amount of new poor people you’re making the data even worse. No one talks about that. Also talk about the key issue that the federalreserve or centralbank is privately owned and pays a 6%dividend to wallstreet. It’s fascist to have the government give a monopoly of the printing press essentially to wallstreet. The government pays wallstreet to borrow money. Essentially Bernie sanders promoting modern monetary theory is really far right and not a democrat or left. Bernie sanders is wanting to do what Abraham Lincoln as Lincoln used modern monetary theory to fund the civil war not borrowing from banks but printing the money without issuing debt. Yes it can be inflationary but it’s the government that has the right to create money not a private bank. So Bernie sanders can be considered as extreme far right like Thomas Jefferson since Bernie opposes a private centralbank.
This is great. You accidentally educated yourself really effectively because you were genuinely interested in a topic and thinking critically. Great story mate big ups
@@emilefoy-legault1031 not all ignorance is worthy of sympathy. Bad things happen when good people become ignorant. This aint an argument just an observation.
i honestly don't get how people think he sounds smart. I think i have heard smart things coming out of random crackheads stealing trash from our dumpster outside.
@ i mean neither do i but back then i was a sad, young, impressionable teenager who was failing in high school which is the exact audience that listens to jordan peterson, joe rogan, and the like
I'm not sure if he does, my first impression of Peterson was someone editing him to be talking about gay rats and honestly that first impression might have saved me from imagining him as sounding smart.
He sounds smart, until you really listen to what he's saying, which is bullshit, but also when someone says something he disagrees with he just berates them and keeps changing the goal post, and that's when it really became obvious he's just a loud dumbarse
Your point about the 60's being a great time because they invested in public infrastructure is the thing everyone needs to understand. Ignoring that fact is what large corporations want.
That’s not what Kamala wanted to do. The Democratic Party are exactly the type of neoliberal hacks that have only widened the inequality. Someone like Bernie is more appropriate for this ideology
@@TheUltimateWriterNZ There are already posts about how some Americans are shocked when they find out that putting tariffs on China does not mean that China will be paying those tariffs; *they, the consumer, will.* You can't help some people.
Read : The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging-one with higher subjective well-being for men. "As a result of increases in both divorce and out-of-wedlock childbearing by age 15 about half of all children in the US are no longer living with both biological parents (Elwood & Jencks, 2001). These changes have, however, disproportionately 3 impacted non-white women and white women with less education (Elwood and Jencks 2001;" This is academic paper not "i read a book and watch a youtube video and shit from one belief system to another bcs i dont really know why i chose an idea on another and i also always took one factor as important and not several.
I saw Jimmy on snapchat and he was well spoken and seemed genuine. However, he used misinformation to represent maga and inequality saying the right controls the media and social media. The wealthy democrats like bill gates own the Washington post, Facebook, Twitter till Elon bought it, etc. The ciazzz also pays reporters to filter information. Kamala called out Elon saying free speech needs to be regulated so people can’t speak freely to millions online essentially. Yes inequality needs to be addressed but it’s a total lie to say the party of the right is the party of rich people. The left support huge taxes in Cali because the rich uses tax loopholes like qualified small business stock exemptions to invest 50 million and sell the company for 5 billion 100% tax free and rollover the rest into new companies tax free. Yes I extremely dislike VP Vance cause he lied about hatians. But don’t hate on populism or a guy supported by the masses. Tons of democrats were populists like JFK, FDR, etc. Reagan was a populist and extremely bad when he sold cocaine and then prosecuted people that bought his drugs. He was bad. But fundamentally look at Obama he supported the rich first and foremost. Rich rule said the greatest handout the rich got was when presidents pushed interest rates to zero which Obama did for years and the eventually it happened under trump after the federal reserve cut rates in 2019 or 2020. But you have to admit Obama dropping rates to zero making money free it was essentially a huge and massive tax cut or the equivalent of it. If the cost of capital drops dramatically it makes your profits way bigger meaning tax rates can stay the same and the rich earn way more still cause the government made cost of capital way cheaper essentially free for the rich. The academic left even in college believes in Keynesian economics and until you actually think about the cost of money and the institutionalized theft that happens when you create new currency out of thin air you’ll be indoctrinated thinking it’s moral because you simply just regurgitate what your professors teach you. Colleges don’t teach you to have healthy skepticism and question things in your mind. My tax professor thought estate taxes were moral even though the constitution says direct taxes must be apportioned amongst the states, and they never taught really that a lot of assets goes up simply cause the quantity of currency in existence continues to expand a lot keeping the inequality or bubbles in existence. They may mention it briefly but never to question if it’s moral or ethical or they’ll say it’s needed to maintain jobs but won’t admit it’s the largest reason for wealth inequality. If Obama would have let interest rates normalize or stay higher rather than taking them to zero for instance yes jobs would have been lost but the ultra rich would have lost a tremendous amount of money bringing wealth inequality down. There’s a reason Warren buffet supports democrats and still is filthy rich. He said he wants moats and protectionism for his businesses which is exactly what government agencies do is help protect his business. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have agencies and regulations but you must always discuss how that the government actually helps big corporations and make the left richer, too. It’s not just the right. Democrats used to be the party of the people but look at how many monopolies owned by democrat billionaires that exist. Democrats of the past were against massive monopolies and oligarchs and today seem to be the same party of the right but they differ on some issues to virtue signal. Amazon or bezos lawsuit in Georgia showed how DEI is used to increase diversity at warehouses because studies show the greater there’s diversity the less likely there are going to be unions! They’re using the woke movement to make more money essentially. Personally I’m not a fan of unions as I’ve read history and how unions abuse members or ran by the mob etc. but Amazon or bezos is horrible for virtue signaling when they’re really using the movement to help them. Also if you care about wealth inequality think about this issue. If you have idk 300 million people or whatever in the U.S. and you bring in 30 million illegal immigrants over a decade and they’re 10% of the U.S. population obviously you’re going to make wealth inequality way worse statistic wise because you’re bringing in such a huge amount of new poor people you’re making the data even worse. No one talks about that. Also talk about the key issue that the federalreserve or centralbank is privately owned and pays a 6%dividend to wallstreet. It’s fascist to have the government give a monopoly of the printing press essentially to wallstreet. The government pays wallstreet to borrow money. Essentially Bernie sanders promoting modern monetary theory is really far right and not a democrat or left. Bernie sanders is wanting to do what Abraham Lincoln as Lincoln used modern monetary theory to fund the civil war not borrowing from banks but printing the money without issuing debt. Yes it can be inflationary but it’s the government that has the right to create money not a private bank. So Bernie sanders can be considered as extreme far right like Thomas Jefferson since Bernie opposes a private centralbank.
I went to uni for economics & you realize that nothing is “broken.” It’s working exactly how it’s supposed to and regular folk are not at the center of that. It cemented my political beliefs.
Honestly I feel this as well, there’s a massive stereotype of econ students and graduates being right wingers but I feel like it’s made me more left wing..
@@lv834 Check out the cartoon strips called "Economix". It highlights in all sincerity the impacts of what is taught in Econ 101 on the average worker.
@@lv834 i think they mean that the system is working as intended. You just have to realise that the intended outcome isn't human happiness, but generating wealth quickly and constantly and concentrating it in the hands of a few people.
This video is really an eye-opener for me. Growing up as a muslim in England, I used to have an irrational fear of the people on those Tommy Robinson march. Im starting to realise that many of them are not there for the reasons I think theyre there for...
It’s very effective for certain groups to force the poor to fight each other. Oldest trick in the book! And the average Brit can ‘feel’ the poverty they are living in, but can’t attribute why. All they need is a loud personality to point them in a direction that makes them feel ‘right’ about that feeling while also telling them they have an enemy. Every day there are more young men who are waking up from this pipeline, as well as those who drown in it. It’s not all lost!
As a guy under the same circumstances it got the point I held damaging, borderline racist beliefs about European people because the most I saw of them were the European Tommy Robinsons. UA-cam is barely usable nowadays because every other video is about some racist on a ‘crusade against the corrupting influence of islamism and fighting to protect the British’
He was talking about the banks who were propping up the housing bubble that would come to burst in 2008. He never meant it in ‘seize the means of production’ sort of way.
@@JoaoCosta-ly1sw How do you come to that conclusion? He said it while discussing tax codes. "Further, in conversation it came up that Mr. Buffett doesn't use any tax planning at all. He just pays as the Internal Revenue Code requires. "How can this be fair?" he asked of how little he pays relative to his employees. "How can this be right?" Even though I agreed with him, I warned that whenever someone tried to raise the issue, he or she was accused of fomenting class warfare. "There's class warfare, all right," Mr. Buffett said, "but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.""
@@rbourne35 You don’t have to pay taxes on assets, so obviously the tax code will always benefit rich people. The funny part is when leftists talk about increasing taxes, that will only happen for the middle and low class. The upper class will still use their assets as collateral and evade taxes.
I was born and raised in a very conservative city in the south. My whole family, friends, coworkers and peers were all big maga supporters. I never really explored politics very deeply so I naturally leaned right just by association. Then about 2 years ago I did a deep dive into politics and tried to arrive at my own conclusions on issues and that was when I started learning more left gradually. When I reflect on my time being right wing I was deeply unhappy and pissed off all the time usually at some minority group or democrats, and I can see that with other family members. Awesome videos outlining the alt right pipeline.
I was raised in a small Texas town with more churches than businesses, this same exact thing can be said about me. I was a conservative just cuz everyone around me loudly was. There were three things that started opening up my eyes to the fact that conservativism is bullshit: 1) the fact that the Republican party were actively blocking bills from Obama that they simultaneously virtue signal about. It was the fact that they scream to their voters about how much they love and support veterans, but then wouldn't let Obama give veteran benefits more spending. 2) the racist rhetoric alot of my own family and friends would espouse in private behind closed doors. I was never a racist, hearing slurs always made me uncomfortable asf, and I heard them a lot growing up from uncles and older cousins. It made me want to distance myself from them, they even hated the "good" minorities. If you were Mexican, they hated you in private. Didn't matter if you were a legal or illegal immigrant or if you were a 3rd generation born and raised Texan. They hated black people regardless if they were on foodstamps or if they had 2 jobs. Whether they DreSsEd LiKe a ThUg or if they dressed classy and business-casual. When I started to realize this, it was a huge eye opener for me to just how much racism I was raised around and how much racism plagues conservative ideology. 3) honestly, just hearing Bernie speak on the American economy. It was everything that I ACTUALLY believed in but didn't know how to articulate or even if I was allowed to articulate it at the time. That was almost 10 years ago and every day I've aged since, I find myself going further and further left.
@@MarDuBronx I was a Peterson-follower for quite a few years, so i know him better than even most right-wing people. He is smart as in he has a high IQ, but he constantly talks about things outside of his field of expertise, which is just psychology. And he keeps using arguments that i only ever hear in right-wing conspiracy circles, like his absurd claims about climate change. But because he uses big words, his followers don't realize that he's just talking out of his ass. And not just that, his political commentary recently has been just bad in a "he has no idea what he's talking about"-way. Like when the Labor-party won the election in Britain. He literally said that they were communists and that Britain would now go down the same path as Canada, even though those countries economies aren't remotely comparable.
My very smart dad listened to Peterson, so I gave him a fair shot. I couldn't get past how he'd say, and I'm paraphrasing, "Here's a lie. ('The American military did IQ tests after WWI and found those with >85 have no value." They did not.) What are we gong to do about this lie I just told? Sure wish someone would come up with some sort of final solution to deal with my lie."
Collect the proof that it was in fact a lie and present it to your very smart father who will then integrate that knowledge into his position on Peterson moving forward. I'd actually like to see exactly what he said and the proof it was a lie so you'd be helping more than just your father. Now the question is, do you actually care enough to go to the effort of doing that and changing the world (even if it's not a huge change, it's still a change) or do you just leave it at your vague comment on UA-cam that changes nothing?
Moral of the story, left or right, dont base your entire worldview on what online commentators think, and if you agree on one thing, that doesnt mean theyre right on everything
Well said. In my opinion the problem of current socio-political world is this feeling of being stuck in a binary opposition choice. So the people simply start to adapt to the pre-prepared packages of believes if that makes sense. They just fail to realize that the world is more complex than that...
@@krowaswieta7944exactly, the best thing I did was to start reading on the history and philosophy behind different political movements, then piece together my own worldview. It gave me a genuine understanding of my political beliefs and their strengths and flaws that the online binary left vs right culture warriors never could
this is such an important video. i'm a psychology student that's chosen to focus on the alt-right pipeline, and having a real person with real viewpoints be honest about their past views and their genuine reexamination of what they thought was true is such a breath of fresh air. thank you for putting this up. thank you for being honest and real. this is the kind of self-examination that will save humanity as a whole, no matter how long it takes.
How minds change by David McRaney has some great real world examples, highly recommend for everyone who enjoyed this video. It’s American but very good. On this side of the pond, Ivan Humble is a former EDL member, I think he’s made a few videos / interviews. Good luck with your studies :)
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021). You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK. It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child. To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office). But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
This is a really fascinating video and a really brave one to make. Admitting you’ve been wrong is one of the most difficult things to do and you did it in a compassionate way to yourself and to others. You should be proud of this one mate
Genuinely a fantastic video, one of the best i’ve watched in a long time. Refreshing to hear such honesty, hopefully a lot will see this video and have a wake up point themselves
@iNabber You're a close pal of ImAllexx right? Weren't you the guy who kept a vulnerable woman financially dependent on you, until she gained weight and you couldn't understand why she wouldn't understand that you wanted to get rid of her?
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021). You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK. It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child. To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office). But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
Loved this. Grew up deep into the US conservative right, and I remember my own slow realization that I was being lied to after reading up on the reality of "the good old days." Good on you for sharing your story, I hope it blows up.
I will never understand people who get sucked into the right because when I heard for the first time this right wingers I immediately knew they were crazy. But I'm glad you found out the truth, unfortunately most Americans think Trump is a normal guy who is looking to save them, we are about to have a really really hard reality check.
@@Lindeset Haha, I spent 20 years spouting things from the left, but I woke up from that after realizing the sick garbage the left has been recently flirting with. Not that I'm a hard right winger, but if you've totally been brainwashed by the left and not seeing the WHOLE story, you've been deceived. If you're all for controlling free speech, telling people what they can and can't say and supporting questionable policies for children, you need to start thinking critically, my man.
I was raised far right and once I started educating myself about economics and history it was completely life shattering. It was extremely uncomfortable to go through but I could unknow what I know. I resonate with your story so much.
@@nicholasrova3698In college right now. It's hilarious because it's so obvious when they turn the switch on to brainwash me with Liberal ideology. I can literally tell from the first sentence when what I'm being fed is hot garbage.
I was raised by white supremacists. I quickly dropped most of the racist thoughts as I became an adult and started living my own life. However, I was still extremely insensitive to racial issues and that sensitivity took me forever to develop. I wince thinking of the things I used to say.
I cannot express enough how much I appreciate the raw honesty you have shown in this video. I am glad I followed you a long time ago. Keep up the excellent work and thank you for what you do.
Is praise warranted… But… Back the day these so-called C’C’s with a thank you for feed back. Goof’s like this Nancy seem to think that it’s above your well wishes. What an absolute t’wat this goof is. Disrespecting and/or your followers…? Stupid. This cheek slapper won’t be around much longer.
I have 1 request to all the leftists. Do not isolate ppl who have minor disagreements with you. If someone agrees with most left wing values but says trans ppl should not be in women's sports than don't call them n*zis...that is what pushes ppl to the right. Rather have a conversation with them and agree to disagree
It is difficult to just agree to disagree. Calling people with different views Nazi is alienating. The issue though of trans women in sport is a specialist niche. There are already guide lines in sport about inclusion that those who regulate sport agree to in ways someone like me who oesn't understand sport at all won't understand. However, agreeing to disagree misses the point. Trans gender in sport became a distraction that hid other issues, like people believing scholarships were being taken from women by self identifying men , like female boxers being accused of being trans because they out box the women of regimes that don't like losing and the demonization of trans women who have been competing for years without issue until they become politically relevant. Agreeing to disagree is to not identify much more subtle issues, which once open to greater scrutiny get people closer to a balanced and truthful conclusion. Agreeing to disagree is a conveniently putting our fingers in our ears and singing la! La, la! We all do it but we need to acknowledge we do this to maintain our indifference.
So then what solution do u propose? 76% Americans including me don't think that trans women should play in women sports. Not coz I've anything against trans ppl but i wanna protect women rights. For this I've been called all kinds of horrible things n i eventually drifted away from the left became a centrist.
@ashwinpawar5325 women are quite capable of deciding who they have in their space. Women do not need knuckle draggers "protecting" our rights while they ban abortion and worry about who pisses where. What I suggest is that sports federations decide their criteria for inclusion in particular sports.
@@ashwinpawar5325My solution is to let women decide for themselves who is allowed into their space. There is no necessity for men to decide who is female in female events. Women should be upholds the standard they decide in the chosen sport. Each nation or group may have different criteria, therefore those who chose to take part should be included or excluded or in accordance with the association rules. As they would be for any criteria. An alternative solution is to dissolve the sex gender criteria in sport and make sport dependent upon personal achievements, rather than the incredibly male oriented first past the post accepted way.
I watched this last night and it dawned on me that I was radicalized without even noticing it. It’s frightening. Been thinking about it all day. Had to leave a comment a day later, thank you. Thank you SO much ❤️
Don't believe everything you are told about migrants and Muslims. I was told the Muslims are our enemy. I went to the local mosque and read about Islam. It changed my view of Islam and Muslims. We all get sucked into the rightwing propaganda of replacement theory. I glad I woke up and realized I was being used as a tool to progress thier agenda. Well done to you.
It is so incredibly valuable for men to make videos like this. Speaking to people, specifically men, about the alt-right pipeline and the harmful perpetuation of disinformation is needed on these platforms. I appreciate how he approaches the subject from a place of understanding and consideration rather than judgement - it's so much more effective and productive.
DarkMatter2525 has a great video he did recently addressing young men about right-wing manipulators and telling his own story. By appearances you'd think he'd be a raised pickup truck driving, IPA drinking, January 6th-attending MAGA chud, but he's a "woke" anti-capitalist heathen lefty. One of my favorite finds on YT in the last year or so.
yes, because women are so much better by nature that a message like this is less valuable for them than for those pesky males. sigh. I'm so tired of that pointless gender warfare. Let me guess, you consider yourself to be more inclusive than average?
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021). You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK. It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child. To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office). But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
As a lefty from a lefty family, this is so fascinating. Thanks for being so honest with your journey and what you used to believe, it's never fun to admit things you aren't proud off
He's not being honest. He realized being left wing was better for his career so he decided to go that route and then did a complete strawman of the arguments he never found counters for so he can look like he "thought" his way out of it. This is the most obvious grifting I've literally ever seen on the internet. Absolute coward of a man, I can't even imagine what his father thinks of him.
@@michaelturley8222hahahaha can’t admit someone’s learnt a different way to think and suits them better. The enemy is the 1%, and not the lefty woke brigade, it’s not real mate! I’m neither left nor right but the citings given here are spot on, he’s well informed and offers concise comparisons from the right and the left and summarises that in both regards the state is the enemy, the man at the top taking your earnings and distributing it to his wealthy friends is the bad guy and that the media only serves to bolster a negative image on the underclass. It’s worth hearing both sides to the coin always, corporations and governments aren’t always bad, but they usually are.
@@michaelturley8222 👆 Talking of strawman arguments. Some projection going on here from you. ‘Left wing’ gets ratioed into the ground. The most ‘successful’ (profitable) grifts all go right and far right, and you know it.
@tinciilizzi I find the story fascinating from the opposite side, since I was raised around the far right and it was considered the normal and reasonable stance for me. It's interesting to me hearing how someone falls into it without having been raised in it.
This guy literally said he became right-wing because it made him seem more interesting and edgy. He never really believed this on an intellectual level, and thus, his perspective only tells you about how some people choose their views based on vibes. You haven't learned anything about people who really believe this, at least not from this video.
"I was a right-winger until I read a book" sounds so trite and simple, but it's really the way out of the pipeline. The bottom line though it that you have to care about being correct and honest. Most people, right and left, hold their beliefs because those beliefs make them feel good, smart, and special. I applaud your honesty and willingness to reflect, in such a public way, on how you came to believe what you do.
Actually, there is a difference between left brains and right brains. Now, I can't tell you if it's the chicken or the egg, but we do see a difference in the cultures that both types produce/engage in. This enlightened centrist, everybody is the same position is intellectually dishonest. Just because one person is bad doesn't mean the next person will be good or vice versa. And the worst part of this both sides are the same is the sheer childish naivete that demands a childhood good vs evil rather than the complicated tradeoffs that are a result of a lot of history. Look, the US is a coffee drinker nation. Why is that? Could it be something about the Brits taxing tea and the Americans going "FU, we're drinking the other drink"? And if it could be something as innocuous as that, couldn't there be more issues that will require a balancing of interests for many parties. I mean, do the Brits actually want to pay for their part of the slave trade or their theft of resources from their colonies? That's one solution. But I'm pretty sure that the average Brit will say "i wasn't even born then. Why do I have to pay?" or something silly while enjoying the perks and benefits that arose from that theft of resources. (I mean, it sucks to be poor in Briton and not benefit but I bet your Queen enjoyed it for you.) Anyway... the left, at least in the US, is far more data driven. The right is far more superficial and into optics and marketing slogans. Build a wall vs. the left saying "Most illegal immigration comes through expired visas and the mode of entry is airplanes.. Walls won't solve the issue". Are both sides really the same? I can change a leftist's mind just by presenting data. I can't change a conservative mind that way. I have to use fear mongering tactics. That's the difference. And I'm tired of pretending that the right have any value in society. They're always on the wrong side of history. They make mistakes and those mistakes are paid for by the following generations. Brexit is just one more "mistake" that the right wing has made and it has damaged the UK economic situation. I'm tired of pretending the dunces have anything important to say about very serious issues that need adult level thinking to make solutions based on the best evidence and advice possible. I mean, Brexit should have been the final nail for the question .."Are conservatives dumb?" The answer is yes. This American could figure it out even without knowing many details because it's that obvious.
@@ElronLaVey univocally reccomedn you to read feminist literature. I was forced to read it as part of our school's IB English literature program (specifically, I read an English version of Woman at Point Zero and the really famous Handmaid's tale) and it got me out of the pipeline. like I immediately understood oh yeah I am a misogynist, oh yeah the world is definitely patriarchal (I think everyone knows this but people deny how prevalent it is in every aspect of both poor and rich countries) , and its dumb to hate women for no reason after that
Well done. I have a similar story: Shapiro, Peterson, Carlson, etc. and was exposed to incel communities like mgtow, but my epiphany came from a different place. I was suffering depression and knew I needed to remove negativity from my life. It was very soon when I made the connection between the right wing media and its need to keep people angry. Removing that cloud and consuming different news sources slowly opened my eyes.
I went through the same thing. I ended up an incredibly angry person, mad at everything. One day it just clicked, as you said, noticing the vast majority of right wing media incentivised keeping its audience mad at everything else.
I'm far right and mostly read left wing news sources, and can debunk them just from prior knowledge I already have. I don't agree with those people. Ben Shapiro says the browning if America is fine. Jordan Peterson is okay with immigration because he's all about individual rights. Carlson might actually be reasonable, but keeps it ambiguous. You should have listened to Lana Lokteff, Jared Taylor, Nick Fuentes, Mark Collett
@@mecklas Anger is the emotional response to perceiving injustice. Psychologists warned against seeing anger as problematic. It's actually vital for starting a positive change. Vegans are mostly left wing but also rightfully very angry about the brutality being done to innocent animals
Thanks for your honesty. I've lost friends to some of this stuff. A lad I went to school with was sadly executed by ISIS, he was an aid worker, David Haines RIP. A friend who was deep down the rabbit hole straight up said to me that he was a 'crisis actor' and it never happened, we've not spoken since. I spent a summer in Ukraine in 2012 working on the Euros, made some friends. When the Maidan protests occurred, some of them took part and I was taking in what was going on and in contact with them. The same guy, this was before David's death, said my friends were 'nazi's' and they were the problem. It was so exasperating trying to explain things to him and ultimately fruitless. I'm pretty sure he is still ranting crap on FB to this day, he was a big part of my decision to ditch FB 10yrs ago, I don't miss it.
I de-activated my twitter account about 2 weeks ago, and literally all the "alt right" stuff and exposure to grifters in my life vanished. I feel liberated.
Same, I was never alt-right but it was always there in my feed. Just seeing every other post, and the comments that accompany them, spewing hatred non-stop was enough to make me delete my account. I'll miss the spaceflight updates, I'm a big space nerd, but I'll always have UA-cam for that.
Honestly disconnecting from twitter - the left or right of it - is just generally a good idea. Almost every time the left makes a mistake it seems to be on twitter.
@@alansmithee419 Most of Twitter is literally just bots by now anways. No reason to be there. Im not gonna buy Nitros, NFTs, Crypto or visit "hot milfs in my area". Thats all you get from most "totally real" users by now.
I was fully right wing my whole life and I loved these commentators, especially Jordan Peterson. The Jan 6th riot peeled the scales off my eyes and made me think about it. Jordan Peterson's reaction to the Ukraine war was the end of it for me. The callousness and ignorance on display just blew my mind. How can you look at that situation and conclude Putin is somehow a defender of western civilization. Completely delusional. I was done after that. I wish I spent the time I wasted listening to them on learning a language or just working out in the gym. My life would be better.
J6 was called for peacefully. Video evidence showed a peaceful protest until arguments escalated. One could argue that Capitol police agitated the protests. Now the Biden Administration is even attempting to jail non-political journalists for even being near the Capitol. Also not all Conservatives and right-leaning people agree on Ukraine and Russia, so to stereotype a political wing from one person is a bit much.
@@PhillipClearmanno not “just one bad take” these takes are rooted in their ideology in manipulating their audience. The second it stops making them money they will apologize for it because 99% of the time they dont believe in their own reactionary rhetoric. They know they can make a quick buck off of you believing in it though.
You're lying. I can tell. If you actually WERE right wing, you'd know we wouldn't leave our guns at home if we actually wanted to commit an 'insurrection'. Nor would we switch for the 'more moral side'.......that supported riots nation-wide for years. As for the Ukraine war; I still don't believe you. You sound like someone that once heard a clip somewhere and based your entire argument on that. When it comes to Western Civilization, name one leader of ANY European country that actually put Western culture first. Just one. I dare you. Literally all of them sold out. Multiculturalism, diversity is our strength, men can get pregnant, etc. All of them. You weren't done because you never started, you're just larping as a conservative. But you stick out like a sore thumb to an actual one. You don't understand us, so you can't emulate us.
If the Jan 6th event caused you to pivot from conservative to not you definitely didn't actually have any conservative core values. You are being untruthful or you have an extraordinarily high level of agreeableness. Either way your statement illustrates you as a remarkable contrarian.
as a transgender kid growing up in florida, i definitely grew more liberal the older i became. as i became a teenager, i rebeled against the conservative norm at the time and experimented with self expression and decided that i liked being trans, it made me happy, and i think we should do our part to make the most people happy. by welfare programs, investing money into infrastructure, into community, etc.
Your ability to think critically about these subject matters was your way out. It’s a shame so many others don’t have the capacity to do the same. Keep up the good work!
I think a big part is also the simple willingness to change one's mind when the right information comes along. There's people out there who see it as weakness or "flip-flopping" to change your opinion, and won't do it no matter what is being said, instead they'll find new reasons or conspiracy theories to believe the same thing they've always believed.
But I think the greater point is missed. The left and right are made of the same people, they just bought into different cults. Examining each situation critically is the way to go, then prioritizing the options. Don't trust either side. Don't buy the hat, join the club, or follow anything blindly. You'll start to love your team more than the game. He seems to also suggest that the right is the group that made everything about identity. That is an odd take.
@@aurora1445You know, I've never heard it stated as weakness, but it makes sense, considering how divisive politics is, especially in my country (USA). With this election just being finished, I am now worried to even discuss politics outside of people I know. I'm genuinely worried of the prospects that a fascist state will rise. If you are American, I hope you feel the same, simply because I hope you see the dangers Trump/Project 2025 presents. Regardless of nationality, have a good day!
Read : The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past 35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging-one with higher subjective well-being for men. "As a result of increases in both divorce and out-of-wedlock childbearing by age 15 about half of all children in the US are no longer living with both biological parents (Elwood & Jencks, 2001). These changes have, however, disproportionately 3 impacted non-white women and white women with less education (Elwood and Jencks 2001;" This is academic paper not "i read a book and watch a youtube video and shit from one belief system to another" bcs i dont really know why i chose an idea on another and i also always took one factor as important and not several.
I was 16 when 9/11 happened and I had the same thoughts. The irony is that as a conspiracy it’s plausible, not saying it’s factual just saying it doesn’t violate the laws of nature. Now we have directed hurricanes and space laser forest fire conspiracies. Much like privatized freight it’s off the rails.
Did a presentation in eighth grade how feminism is bad and privilege isn't real... I am a white queer woman. I cringe so hard thinking about my teenage self and her politics.
When my Dad got his finger ripped off from working on a car and him and my Mom fighting over whether they could afford to go to the hospital or not, I realized that our healthcare system was broken. If you want capitalism to succeed, you need healthy and happy workers. Medicare for all/universal healthcare achieves this while also cutting the miles of red tape surrounding health insurance.
Depends on your definition of capitalism succeeding. There are now more billionaires than at any time in modern history so it's succeeding for them. The ordinary people are just ants to them.
@@andyhxmost billionaires in history and most people living in misery then almost any time in modern history. Most people are not ants, we are cows that those on top want to milk until the last drop
this is so true, even in the nordics that have been very left most of our modern history the alt right are bringing the culture war bullshit and trying to hide all the real problems behind Muslims and drag queens = bad. soon they have ruined this place entirely because no one is listening to the left who are actually talking about the real issues and solutions :(
Dude. This has got to be one of the most compelling case studies of our time, I've been on a similar journey, I see all my friends being consumed down the alt right rabbit hole and they won't listen to reason, they spew the most outrageous nonsense and I can't stop it. The division in society has never been more scary, you've managed to lay out something I've been really struggling to get my head around. Power to you. James Obrien is who started to get me thinking and now I'm a 'leftie'. We have very few strong rational role models but there are more emerging from the the fold as time goes on.
There are quite a few rational role models who were there all along. all women though, and you might have overlooked them. I would say you should examine some unconscious bias there, it is nothing to be ashamed of, we all grew up in this world.
Maybe you could get them to watch Dr. K? He's not directly political, so your friends might be more willing to listen to him. He's a psychiatrist who offers viable solutions to some of the problems a lot of young people (especially young men) have, which might be enough to make your friends less susceptible to extremists. Oh, and also, he's a good role model. Some guys are initially skeptical about his advice, but he's happily married with a beautiful "model" looking woman (the words of some in the community) with kids, so they eventually believe that what he says at least has more validity than the words of some chronically single dude bro.
I live in Texas, and I’ve lost about 80%-90% of the friends I made throughout my life for this same reason. It was like someone flipped a switch, and suddenly I was a commie loving, traitor, woke (whatever tf that means) loser because I don’t gargle Trump’s nutsack like he is a gawd unworthy of our existence. All these years later I still have no explanation how any of this happened.
Oh thank Christ. Young people are learning to read. YES! There's hope. Dude, I've been watching all this suff and more. This is probably the best video I've seen YEARS MAN! 🎉
One of the best videos I have seen in a while. Everybody should watch it. Thanks for doing this, it's much appreciated. I've always been left leaning but I also like to be challenged in my views and to change my mind when new evidence arises. We need this kind of discourse and we need to listen to each other. Best of luck to you!
You said the operative word: "Ego" So many people have fragile ego's, especially when presented with facts that prove them wrong. And that's why they feel they need to push back or doible down on their rhetoric. Well done Jimmy on this. It was a very well presented and honest video.
When people believe that they know the "truth" it too feeds their ego. Especially with conspiracies and alt beliefs, like they're one of the few who aren't brainwashed by the big bad wolf. Then there are people who aren't necessarily arrogant, but who don't want to be looked down upon. So they adopt the views that will please those around them. Their ego shields itself from feeling stupid or immoral by this defense mechanism.
Kind of like how the American neoliberal establishment was so sure they were right about everything and just got a massive rejection from the American electorate.
You say that, and everybody will agree with it, but NOBODY will ever think it's them who might be wrong or needs to change. Especially not on this left side of UA-cam.
I am an American former MAGA I have a Ukrainian wife like yourself, and the way people on the right reacted to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was such a whiplash moment to me that had me question my entire belief system. To think that the party of Reagan could side with a Russian dictator hit me like a ton of bricks.
I'm happy you posted this. I remember reading a case study by neuroscientist that showed that right leaning ppl have less empathetic reasoning to ppl shown in their brain unless it effects them. Unlike left leaning people who naturally have an increase of empathetic quality for the general public. My question is, if your wife was not Ukrainian, would you have cared and / or left MAGA? Can you actually remove yourself from the conversation and care for others than yourself and what's only connected to you.
@@ramunebradfordtake2710 Left leaning people don't have a predisposition toward empathy for the general public. That's a faulty interpretation based on bias. Left Leaning people are VULNERABLE toward rhetoric that CLAIMS to be in support of the general public good based on certain commonalities. Left leaning people are predisposed toward Interventionism, imposing themselves or the state to forcefully fix a percieved moral 'wrong' in society, by force if nessisary. "IF someone is homeless, it isn't their fault. WE need to help them! It's the right thing to do!" vs "That person has created their own problems, and has demonstrated they have no intentions of improving their decision making anytime soon. This is a waste of resources. IF you want to help them, go ahead." Left leaning is HEAVILY into collectivism, often to mitigate personal responsibility and costs associated with buying into literally every percieved issue presented to the group. Which is dangerous for a few obvious reasons. Most prominantly, because it is unsustainable and inevitably leads to forceful means of coercion to draw in those who are otherwise unwilling to support the 'cause' in question. "We need everyone-" and "If everyone was on board-" are common speaking points for when a proposal falls short of initial expectations, blaming the lack of additional participation, rather than a faulty premise or endemic issue with the proposal itself. Right leaning trends toward independence and selfsufficiency. With the perception being that closeknit communities and relationships are your support network and should be the focus of your responsiblities. Losing sleep over people you don't know, is unproductive and energy that could be better spent elsewhere. Of course, this can cause problems in a global society where the decisions of nations generate consequences beyond that small scope of focus. An example being that an investment made now, in a foreign nation, say Ukraine, could save significantly more resources down the line compared to leaving an issue outside of their responsibilities alone until it becomes one. This applies to social issues as well, regarding inmate rehabilitation, drug addicts, etc. Ideally, centrists, who share traits from both groups, and constructive and productive compromise between the two groups, generate a workable balance. However, more often than not, the party elected into majority runs roughshod over the other. Two party systems (In practice, if not in law) are better than many alternatives, but are far from perfect. I'm sure we can all agree on that front. Especially since they have 'extras' baked into them, which people don't agree with.
I think endless taxpayer funding to fund a foreign war seems dumb. There was peace talks until the US decided it was bad for business to stop the war. Doesn't mean right wingers love russia, they just don't give much of a shit about ukraine.
Meets a hot Ukrainian, stops listening to Andrew Tate. Jokes aside, fair play to you. I think a lot of lads would benefit from opening their eyes a bit.
I was raised in a totalitarian, authoritarian, military dictatorship. Raised on our national propaganda. All magazines, newspapers or books were banned if they told a different story than the government line. I fell for it completely. I believed our leader was incredible - barely human. I had heard we had political prisoners but I just couldn't understand what their problem was - we had an amazing government - what was there to protest?! Then years later I went to the USA for university and I was able to read books about my home's history. It was not so pretty. And at the same time I was in US university my home had a democracy movement that ended up forcing the one party government to democratise and have open elections. I had to begin facing that I had fallen for the propaganda and realise that my heroes were not so amazing after all... I began to realise the guys who I thought were idiots for rocking the boat were actually the heroes.
i cant imagine how insane it would be to suddenly realize your whole worldview was built on someone elses lies - i don't know how long it's been since this all went down but i wish you the best in readjusting :) its never your fault for falling for such carefully crafted propaganda and i applaud you for making the impossible leap and breaking out
Ugh, that’s got to be tough, I’m sorry. It’s bad enough for people with right wing parents, I can’t even imagine how difficult it is the other way around. I hope he realises his sympathies are in the wrong place soon. Good luck. ❤
@@jaybee4118 pretty sure rightwing sympathies are normal to have, since they have been around for thousands of years. Radical leftism aimed at stomping out any opposition on the other hand, not so sure
@@barahngsame goes for right wing parents indoctrinating their kids-unless ofc they are very submissive and always defer to what their daddy tells them, like you do.
I think the biggest problem is that people on the right and left insinuate that opinions have to come in packages. It is possible to hold left-wing and right-wing beliefs at the same time. This is what caused political splintering in Germany in the last couple of years within left-wing parties specifically.
You are so correct, that’s what I could never understand about politics. If one party had a good idea, they don’t go that would be great for the people let’s all get behind this and make it happen. They will vote against it because if that party is credited with that idea maybe they will not win the next election. So every time the people lose out. The politicians keep playing their child like games and we the people will somehow always get the blame for their mistakes. The rich don’t pay enough taxes, the poor cost the state too much in benefits. The rich leave the country because of government legislation and over taxation. I have not heard one rich person say I don’t mind paying taxes but I want the government to use my money more wisely. Poor people on benefits want jobs but the government doesn’t help them to get jobs, just creates employment by making training courses which hides the real numbers. Governments have been managing numbers for the last 40 years and some how in their mind they have forgotten how to govern people.
You've hit the nail on the head. I personally believe in right wing values around sustaining yourself and bettering your skills, without relying on others to do it for me. Yet I have huge respect for those of other races, nationalities etc. Yet I've found "far righters" call me a far left *insert insult of the week here*. No, I'm building my wealth and career, they're living on benefits for three generations. The problem is that people are generally stupid. I'd certainly never vote right in this current landscape. If they cut the crap and got some moderation back, then I may change my mind. Populism is cancer.
100%. I realized this during the abortion debate. Data suggests children born to single parents and parents who aren't expecting to have children grow up to have a less fulfilling life than those otherwise, Obama said this. So I didn't understand why all of a sudden the "right" which prides itself on being logical suddenly all took the humanitarian side of "every life is important", and the "left" all wanted to kill their kids? This is how they've kept us divided and unwilling to compromise for so long, because opinions which are regarded as being either "right" or "left" could easily be assigned to the other under a completely rational justification.
absolutely... its completely insane how most people put themselves in boxes... im more "right wing" (by todays standards lol) .. but I certainly have some views or policy positions that would be viewed as left... its madness... and its also madness how drastically the overton window can shift and people just follow along without even realizing the political parties have radically shifted just in the last ten years.... a lot of what is "right" today was "left" 20 years ago and vise versa.
Politics hasn’t really been about policy in a long time. It’s mainly coalitions of certain types of people. For example, conservatives favor free markets and reject tariffs, yet Trump champions tariffs to court rust belt working class people so suddenly all the right wingers are into tariffs now… it’s stupid.
This guy is trying to deny that the racial and religiously motivated, hate crime of Muslim grooming gangs happened. There is absolutely no virtue in that. No doubts that some loser will flag this comment on ideological grounds. FYI- social democrat, ex social worker commenting who is for political engagement not demonisation!!
Even as a boy who grew up in council estates, my mum was single struggling on benefits after my dad left, crutched on the NHS because one sister has epilepsy, the other has cystic fibrosis and my brother was born without nasal airways. I found myself subscribing to my friend's dad beliefs on far-right freedom and altogether removal of health care systems. He state something like 'women shouldn't be in hard manual labour but you should never hit a woman or treat her with disrespect'. So my young mind says that the second part is really good, that first bit is weird but he must be good because of the second part, slowly adding weird extreme views mixed in with obvious respectful views to soften the blow. Watched the exact same happen to a friend of mine with Jordan Peterson. Hits you with the most widely acceptable beliefs with sprinkles of extremism so they don't seem weird anymore.
@@rhysrailYou forget that kids trust adults and expect them to know far better than they do. That saying something with conviction is impactful. When someone insists something, they seem to believe it’s true, and there must be a reason they believe it.
@@pheonixrises11 I wasn’t talking about when he was a child I was talking about how he is completely disregarding all of the right wing idea’s because he doesn’t like a few of them
I used to be someone who watched Peterson and fell for a lot of Farages lies, I started becoming more left wing during the pandemic when I ran out of things to watch and a trans creator was recommended to my by UA-cam, who was making videos going up against big religious nutjobs in America (like Kent Hovind), then I came across more trans creators, such as F1nnster and I realised that these trans people are actually alright and more entertaining than the right wing who just complained and complained. Ever since disconnecting from the right and their constant negativity, I've actually felt happier and, mentally, been doing far better than before.
Funny, isn't it? I'm still having a hard time accepting that I actually had to expose myself to trans creators to realize that trans people are humans, and thus trans rights are human rights. As for Jordan Peterson, watching him talk to Matt Dillahunty is a gift every fan of this pseudo-intellectual should give themselves. The spontaneous laughter erupting from the crowd when JP says "It's really mysterious!" gives me hope for humanity. We should be educating our youth about the risk of being trapped in echo chambers, and about resisting the tendency to seek saviors and scapegoats.
@@breadfan7433 thank youuu! After seeing a pattern in history studies of horrible people hating a group especially because they are distant from them, I realised how certain groups become this boogie monster when you have no contact with them. It’s so important to humanise any group that we get told to dislike first , really hear their story and then choose our standpoint
You really gotta give yourself the credit for really putting in the time to do your own research and your open mindedness to really let these challenging ideas enter and fight with your biases. Really goes to show how humble you are a lot of people really let their ego take over when it comes to this kind of stuff
I grew up in a Christian (or claimed to be Christian) fundamentalist group called the ICOC. I genuinely believed that the only people going to heaven were people baptized in our little 200,000 member church and that the other 8 billion people in the world were going to hell because they didn’t “do Christianity the correct way” (my way.) I was taught that people who left our group were just bitter and ungrateful to God, until I started watching UA-cam channels made by people who left our group. They’d explain why they left (the abuse, the toxicity, the beliefs,) and I found myself relating to the people I looked down on. I myself left when I was 18 and it’s been pretty hard when my family thinks I’m on the path to hell for not believing the icoc’s doctrine anymore. But I didnt want to keep viewing people outside our church as just potential converts I needed to swoop in and “save.” I had other issues with my former church but that exclusionary belief system never sat well with me even when I was a child.
The funny thing is, I’ve seen Atheists act more in accord with the teachings of Christ than people who loudly proclaim themselves Christians in extravagant churches.
I was once in the pipeline too. I got out of it when I was in 2018, as I came to many similar conclusions through courses that I got auto assigned to in university. I learned about a lot of things that challenged what I had absorbed through the pipeline, but most especially about the prison industrial complex in America that incentives crime quotas, which in turn influences over policing, which in turn warp the crime statistics, which shape our view of societal ills, and for the first time I understood how those statistics were taken out of context and fed to me through alt right content in order to make me think that other people were the problem, and the not way that society was being allowed to run. This video was fantastic, going through falling into the pipeline, coming out of it, understanding and becoming kinder. There’s a lot of empathy here in your video and I think it has the power to do a lot of good.
Youre a natural follower, your fate is to get pimped around by ideologies and ideologies until the end of your existence. One day, you will too become conservative, probably when you have kids. The internet neonazi to transgender pipeline is real bidenway
@@arcus9590If you have to say "I became an informed free thinking adult" then it's pretty much guaranteed that you didn't do any of the mentioned but you are trying to convince yourself and others you did
I have never in my life have left a comment on anything… a social media post or UA-cam video but this video was so good that I just wanted to say thank you for making a great video 🎉
A vert honest and informative video. I'm probably a minority in your audience; I'm a woman from an immigrant background, but have been following your videos for the past year because I find your explanations of UK social problems very succinct and well researched. I'd really like to see you cover the state of misogyny and violence against women in the UK, I think you would probably be able to cover this topic in a way that would resonate with men and boys, without it being preachy. Also it's great to see so many people in the comments who have also escaped this pipeline! Well done to you and everyone else, it takes a lot of self-reflection, maturity, and intelligence to turn your back on an ideology you have previously trusted!!
The hipster argument you bring up is actually super important I think. A lot of people want to feel like rebels. That is their reason to go down the right wing pipeline.
I agree and sometimes think this is the strongest drive for people to join the far right. Boredom and being jealous of the perceived public importance of other groups. It is a simple way to feel important.
Welcome to Reality, bruv! It's boring af because there's actually no "shadowy cabal" pulling the strings of the world, but it is comforting because we can actually do something about it like taxing the billionaires more. Sincerley, A former 2009-2011 Alex Jones fan
I mean there very much is a cabal pulling strings. They just don’t care about gender affirming care, but about preserving societal hierarchy so they can continue to profit from
Honestly, to go from somebody being in control with the deduction that it's controllable to the realization that nobody is in control and it's just an uncontrollable chaotic system can be quite scary. I seriously suspect that that's why it's often hard for conspiracy theorists to get out of that mode of thought. It's like delegating the world to a god, it puts existential dread to rest with an uncanny certainty. To let go of that is to have to accept that you live in a world wherein, if you really get down to it, nobody actually really knows what they are doing. Not something that's generally easy to be at peace with, ergo conspiracy theories and religions.
@@lopendepaddo bingo! That's why I also became atheist after escaping the conspiracy theory world. And honestly I've never felt more secure and confident in the world around me. Life's so much better when you don't believe in a boogieman/cabal/God controlling everything!
This is genuinely one of the best vids I’ve seen in ages. Owen jones being the one who disillusioned you is the icing on top. Thank you for being self aware enough to drag yourself out of the right.
Some of JP's earlier concepts were drawn from things like old-fashioned literature studies, done quite badly. For example, his analysis of Pinocchio. I think for a lot of people those analyses were mind blowing because previously they hadn't seen anything like that before. It sounded like he saw through culture in a way nobody else did, but what he was really doing was rediscovering and repurposing mid-century analysis in order to make social arguments--which literature scholars of course would not go so far as to make.
@@vf1923 Ehhh... He wasn't trying to win any prizes with that Pinocchio stuff. It's more like he was doing what he was paid to do, which was to teach Jungian analysis of popular culture/film/lit to classes of mostly bored undergrad arts students, and publish an occasional paper on it. And he met the brief pretty well, in my opinion. He only went off the rails when he got embroiled in identity politics (partly not his fault, partly him seeing an amazing grift) - then he was doomed. Tons of mediocre professors do it. It's a form of brown-nosing and any academic - or indeed, person - of integrity shirks it. Most people just end up getting to be a top dawg at their university, though, not BFFs with Andy Tate.
He does have a PhD in Criminal Psychology, Id say that's pretty academic.. or is it only people you agree with are academic? Its ok to not agree with people, some things on all sides I agree with but I don't agree with everything on one side.. the truth is usually grey and somewhere in the middle, not black and white..
@@UziMusic How to say this? His expertise in one area does not mean that he is an expert in all other areas, even if he teaches them to undergrads. It does not mean that he can necessarily apply his ideas to the real world. It does not necessarily mean that he has maintained a level of reasoning. It does not mean that his ideas are well-thought-through. Like anyone who has trained hard at something, they might be pretty good at that thing--but quite bad at everything else. Peterson's issue is twofold: He both comments far beyond his expertise and he's not particularly good about speaking about those things. A PhD, and even a professorship, is not a get-out-of-logic-free card. If you speak in word salad, it's still word salad. Unfortunately, like every industry, not everyone who achieves a high level is actually great.
Relative poverty is just another way of saying too much wealth inequality causes crime. Because people see there is plenty in the world, but it is not shared properly.
It's so frustrating to know I was raised to think crime is always a personal moral failing. If you look at crime statistics and poverty statistics all over the world, the overlap is too strong to ignore. The area I grew up in had low crime when there were three factories and high crime now that there are none. Why did people who didn't commit crime before suddenly start choosing the wrong thing by the hundreds? Spontaneous mass personal moral failings? Nonsense.
I would say I have a pretty different worldview from Peterson in that even if he were correct that it's relative poverty, not poverty itself, that causes crime, crimes committed out of frustration from that level of inequality, even if they're not life-or-death desperate, are as justified as a starving person stealing a loaf of bread if the ladder to financial success is not the same for everyone. Working hard for yeras just to drive a beater around while someone who works maybe just as hard, but probably less so and for less time, is driving a new Mercedes, while not necessarily crime-worthy against the Mercedes driver, should be enough of a breaking point for someone to take some kind of action to make a change. Statistically though, the Mercedes driver is more likely to become someone's target, even if their justified hostility is misdirected.
@@patstevenswhohatesbuttermi5861 Unfortunately the majority of victims of crimes are also poor. ItIn many cases it’s the strong who prey on the weak, even if it was economic issues that pushed them to commit a crime in the first place.
As someone who's realised that a HUGE source of my depression is partially just... living in the UK at this moment in time, your videos and diligence in breaking down these issues are so validating, and hearing your honesty about your journey makes me have huge respect for you, and even dare I say it, a teeny bit of hope. Keep doing what you're doing bro ❤🤗
Really, are you really that weak, that low and brainless, yes it is depressing, and is going to be far worse if you don't take action against those who make your life worse and worse, against that poor pathetic clown named Keir Starmer and the rest of his rotten party which is at best a terrible political infection, but instead of doing that no, let's just watch UA-cam video made by an idiot with a stupid message, way to go man, I give you a ten for being a loser.
Yeah, imagine living in a small hat created dystopia, being flooded by people that aren't you is depressing, what a shocker. I know, the answer is to follow the beliefs of the people making my life terrible, that will fix it.
Dude - you’re awesome. The truest mark of intelligence, in my mind, is the ability to change one’s deeply held beliefs when presented with new information.
Deeply held beliefs huh? You do realize that the alt-right are American ethno-nationalists don't you? American. Not English. None of the people mentioned in this video are even tangentially linked to the alt-right. This entire video is based on complete ignorance of what the alt-right is. Jimmy heard it being used as a buzzword and assumed it meant anybody who was right wing or nationalist. People he mentions like Jordan Peterson or Tommy are fundamentally against what the alt-right believes. Particularly about Israel and its inhabitants.
I stumbled on this video randomly, and did not regret it at any point. I have to say, as a Ukrainian, I am amazed and pleased to hear there are people like you who understand us and our situation. We are lucky to have you. Wish you all the best in life!
@@TheebX92you obviously have no clue about the history of Putin's Russia and how he's trying to rebuild the USSR. Because he used the same tactics every single time. No, it's not the fault of the countries who were attacked. Or you're just a Russian troll.
@@TheebX92 Clearly, oh brainwashed one, you learned NOTHING from this video. NOTHING. And the reason for that is because YOU DON'T WANT TO. You DON'T WANT TO KNOW what the actual FACTS are. You don't know their history, and you don't know history, PERIOD. ALL you "know" is a bunch of rightwing talking points and cliches that have no basis in a factual reality. And most alarming of all, you lack the cognitive capacity to be to even know that you lack the cognitive capacity to engage in critical thinking.
Then the uncommitted are the legendary rebels, revolting with their indecisiveness, one could only hope to be so unsure of anything, being so revolutionary as to always change their mind on everything, believing in nothing and falling for anything. Vive la révolution eh?
I was also someone getting pulled into the alt-right direction. I managed to scampter out before being sucked down the drain completely. For me, it was a very simple tale really. Now I've not exactly had much luck in life, and have a lot of traumatic experiences I am working through. No shortage of violence endured too. On top of that, chronic health problems and constant pain due to that. Culminated in my health decling with it being nearly fatal leaving me to crawl out of the pit by myself. And because I had made the mistake of remaining quiet about some of the worse of what I have endured, this blew the barrel fermenting inside my soul open. At my lowest, when the system and healthcare utterly failed me, when I was being kicked around by bureucracy and trying to adjust to my new state of living with constant pain and fatigue, of course the alt-right snuck in to capitalise on it. This took the form of just a person met online. When pain, fatigue and terror are the norm of a day, company is wanted. And the completely justified anger I had at my own mistreatment and burecuratic stonewalling was ample ground for this person to drip the usual alt-right venom into my ear. It was taking root too with grifters and outrage mongers being used to cultivate it. I really only got out by after months of pounding my head against what felt like a wall breaking through and managing to get at least some help. I remember thinking how good it felt to be able to clearly think without alt-right outrage venom clouding my head for the first time in months. Blocking and getting rid of any messages I sent to this person was a relief. Especially as they were pretty troubled themself too, and did partake in abusive behaviour during "fits" if we can call them that. Not helping, because the point was never for anything to be fixed. Just joining in destructive anger and rage at all the wrong things as aimed by the venomous rhetoric. And it was not some trained recruiter, but a lone-wolf type actor. Who had already stepped their toes into behaving with hostility in real life instead of just talking about it.
Hoping life is getting better for you. Life is hard, and there’s often a lack of support and resources to deal with complicated health issues. It feels like you have to be your own rescuer, but you’re already struggling and tired. I just wanted to say I heard and understood what you said ❤
One thing i find scary, is that the more i consume media with the target demographic typically being male, the more alt right media i get recommended in my algorithms. Most specifically gaming content or male groups of youtubers like beta squad. When those things don’t have anything to do with politics
I noticed this a few years ago already. I need only spend a few hours watching nerd or nerdy alligned content (which gaming falls within), and the algorithm starts trying to insidiously feed me alt-right dribble from charlatans or outrage mongers. It's absolutely baffling and bonkers. No matter how many times I check "do not recommend this to me" it still keeps happening. That's how contaminated this kind of media content is on youtube. And how far the reach of the far-right/alt-right is. Nobody needs to go looking for it. It is offered on a silver plater by the algormith to specifically young men. And the impact is pretty shocking, if you look at how radicalized many nerds have become.
I’ve always wondered why, even though I consume a lot of media *about* right wing people and gaming content, I rarely get actual right wing content pushed to me. You’ve made me realise it’s because the gaming content I watch is aimed more at a definite mix of people or women specifically.
@jaybee4118 yeah i notice it fluctuates with me depending on the game im playing at the time. I re picked up LoL again not long ago because i found a group of people to play with so watched more lol content and unsurprisingly the right wing content picked up again, opposed to when im obsessed with a certain city building game or RPG game. But its also like, i went on a sunny v2 video watching spree a while ago and my YT recommended after that was at an all time low, where as it doesn’t happen with other ‘commentary’ channels
This is my first time watching one of your videos - never came across your channel before. I believe I have had a similar transition to you, but in the opposite direction. In 2019, I was really into Andrew Yang's bid for presidency. I thought that UBI was the answer to help society. Obviously he didn't become president, so after that I kind of stepped away from politics and didn't give it any more thought. I was in college at this time. It is worth noting that my family has always been on the conservative side. Also worth mentioning here, Elon Musk tweeted 'I like Yang' and Tucker Carlson had him on for an interview and agreed with Yang strongly. Back when I was supporting Yang, I bought into the climate change ideas. That was really the most important issue to me. Once I stepped away from politics, I turned to other hobbies. Learning about history and swordsmanship was one of those, and in this hobby I came across a great UA-camr who challenged the idea of climate change. I knew that this man was not a bad person, which contradicted my previous thought installed by the likes of Neil deGrasse Tyson that anyone who is skeptical of climate change was just a 'climate denier'. I also was recommended several UA-cam videos about health content, since I was getting into cooking at the time. One particular channel, Dr Berg, I watched and thought 'I don't really think this could be right, it just seems so controversial, like really how could everyone else be so wrong'. Anyway, I just didn't buy into it and kept on with life. A few months later however, I got recommended his videos again. This time I spent more time thinking about what he was saying and watched more of his content. It made sense, not in some ways I was scared to follow his advice. I began to trust him and starting following his advice. I started eating a keto diet and lo and behold it worked! Before starting to eat healthy, I weighed around 160 to 170 lbs. After a few months of healthy eating though, I weighed only 130 lbs. It is worth noting here that I was never that interested in losing weight, but in eating healthy. I never saw myself as overweight, but looking back at it I probably was somewhat overweight - although not morbidly obese by any means. I also started listening to Jordan Peterson and liked what he was saying. I didn't go full down the rabbit hole just yet, that would come later. At the time I was listening to him then, I didn't even know he was on the right. Even then I still considered myself to be more on the left. Fast forward a year or so and I have graduated, and months after that began working in my first job after college. Probably 7 months into that, I began listening even more to Jordan Peterson and started listening to Tucker Carlson (about the time that he started uploading to UA-cam). I really liked what I was hearing from them. Also I began listening to Robert F Kennedy Jr and absolutely agreed with him. I still believe he is correct about the health system. I already believed this prior to encountering RFK JR, from my own health journey. I have personal experience that RFK JR is correct. I also heard him talk on the history of the US and Russia and how NATO betrayed their original promise to Russia. Also, you may never have heard this, but he mentioned how the day before Russia invaded Ukraine, the Biden admin sent Kamala Harris loudly ask Ukraine in front of Russia to join NATO. Russia has explicitly said they do not want Ukraine to join NATO. So when the US provoked Russia yet again, Russia invaded the next day. What do you think was going to happen? It's worth noting that during the pandemic I bought the media lies about Trump and took the vaccine without question. My family were skeptical and did not take it. Now I wish that I had not taken it. It seems to me that you've let the pendulum swing too far to the left in some ways. That or you've never looked to deeply at the health system in America and vaccine companies. You are correct in some ways about the economic situation. As to why people are having less kids, I recommend you watch the latest video by UA-camr Thoughty2 on that subject. There are many factors, and the economic one is important - but also the spiritual realm cannot be ignored. He even says in the video on this subject, that the least developed countries have the most children. The map for a countries development and the map for the highest birthrates of children are almost identical in inverse proportion. In other words, the less developed a country the more children they have. Once case in particular to look at here is South Korea. They have very high working hours and not the greatest living arrangements. The government has tried to give monetary incentives for people to have children, but the countries birthrate is still well below the replacement rate. Thoughty2 mentioned one thing related to economics that validates it as a factor; that the relative salary to financial gains of a company have drastically dropped. So the answer is more complicated than just economics or just people not wanting kids. There is nuance. I think you may be right about right wing content too often misrepresenting the left by showing only the most extreme leftists, but that is a problem of the Internet in general. One think I very much disagree with you on though is Jordan Peterson. I've watched many of his videos and have read some of his book "12 rules for life" and recently began reading "We Who Wrestle with God". He is absolutely correct about a lot of things. As he's described, if you start to aim upwards you can move up at an exponential rate, but that same rate holds true too if you aim down. He derives great wisdom from the Bible, contrasting the spirit of Cain with the spirit of Job. He has a great quote too: (paraphrasing) imagine you're walking in the woods and you come across a fence. Conservatives will say let's leave it alone, we don't know why it was built, but liberals will say no let's tear it down. They may well find out that that fence was there for a very good reason indeed. So in summary, I have transitioned from left leaning ideas to right leaning ideas, but there is nuance to be had on both sides.
This is one of the best things I've watched this year - well done, from Canada. We need more people going through a similar process of self challenge, critical thinking, and self- educating based on the actual facts.
Remember when tate was massive i would only see the supportive shit but my mum would see all the hate towards woman, the fact i supported him at some point is terrifying to me now
I never saw any hate towards Women in Tate but he appeared too "macho arrogant" to me when he pretty much compared anyone with himself. A true chad does not push others down, they elevate other people. Especially without insulting them or making fun of them even once. Which is pretty difficult. It is difficult to be polite all the time. But when I see someone not even make this attempt, not even a single time, then I know they are just narcicists and narcicism always goes hand in hand with contempt for others.
I never supported him but didn’t see much wrong with him until a year later . I realised the toxic masculinity he sold to young boys , the materialistic lifestyle and plain misogyny. Hearing about him being a pimp and how he treats his baby mamas has really made me dislike that man.
This went both ways for me and a family member. He'd only seen the motivational stuff and for some reason I was seeing any of that but hearing more of his "women owe you", "tell your woman what to do" stuff. Family member and myself were talking about this and he was shocked about the stuff I'd heard'/seen and I was surprised by the motivational stuff. I guess there are maybe two reasons for this. Either tate started with one message and moved on to the other and the internet just mixes it all up in to one big lump so you never know what came first. Or he has two types of message and the algorithm (of the platform you're on) just delivers to you the one that is closest to the stuff you watch. I was getting the more negative stuff as Tate's more negative stuff had been going around my kids class (and I was looking into it to see what it was about) and said family member was in to personal improvement.
I’m 40, I grew up listening to rush limbaugh every day of my childhood, so yeah when I was in high school I was writing reports on how gay marriage should be illegal wrapped in good for society tropes. My shift occurred after I moved to California for work after the 2008 crisis. I couldn’t find any good radio stations and ended up just listening to a lot of NPR. At first I disagreed with pretty much everything I heard, but they always had a balanced approach often with people on both sides of the issues. Ultimately NPR would report on something I would disagree on, but would have an actual expert in that field talk about it, and I would take bits and pieces of that overtime. I’m glad I didn’t have to deal with the current media landscape, I can’t imagine where I would be if the alt right was around 12 years earlier, I’m certain I would have fallen right into it.
Such a shame Bill Clinton repealed the Fairness Doctrine - it made characters such as Limbaugh possible and drastically reduced the opportunities to hear fair and balanced 'non-partisan' reporting. It made journeys such as yours much, much rarer. Plus It's directly responsible for the mess the US is in with regards to the right wing disinformation machine that dominates all US media right now. Bad move, Bill.
@@ZachX888 He was, but he was way less crazy back then. Don’t know if it was drugs or chasing money or actual true belief that deranged him over time. He was never fully sane, but used to at least make valid points at times. I know it was he who changed & not just me, because Limbaugh was always trash, and Glenn Beck. They were always hate-fueled liars, but it seemed like Jones used to actually try to understand the world, even if he was misguided.
this kind of thing keeps getting repeated here, that you grew up all conservative and were delivered by the holy left. there are huge portions of us who grew up listening to NPR with their parents for hours a day in the car, that little jingle very nostalgic. Then things started getting wonky in 2016. By 2020, there was no objectivity at all. what do you mean you don't have to deal with the current landscape? how are you not feeling the disgusting nature of things? how much money do you make a year in California to be ok with this?
This kind of honest, personal and balanced reflection is exactly what we need. I've always found the 'culture wars'-style name calling and misrepresentation, tribalism such an obstacle to meaningful dialogue. If we're ever going to get anywhere as a society it is going to be by finding what we have in common in good faith, rather than being 'anti' or falling into 'us and them'. We all need to have a willingness to admit when we've been wrong or mistaken and not blame each other for being influenced by powerful others with ulterior motives. Cheers for this Jimmy.
Culture war is literally just something the elite invented to hide the fact that they make up a bogeyman out of a random minority group everytime the economy goes bad or they dont get what they want in terms of economical or social politics. It makes it seem like a continuous conflict, but its just conservative pundits going "LOOK AT THE UFOS/IMMIGRANTS/QUEERS THEY ARE DESTROYING OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!!" as Jimmy touches on.
I grew up a fiscal conservative in the United States. In 2004 my mom brought me into the voting booth when she voted for bush a second time, my dad had Rush Limbaugh on the radio every day. My parents voted red every single election without exception, they were never hyper-political they never did their own research definitely never read any papers, they just repeated the right wing talking points. They voted the way the man on the radio told them to, they never really thought about it that hard. On the other hand, I went off to school. This is now Obama era, politics didn't come up that often, things weren't as bad as they are now. But I remember being flummoxed when a worried friend of mine asked if Obama was still president after the 2012 election. I knew I was supposed to be hoping for Romney, I didn't really say anything. I couldn't articulate my position because I hadn't really been thinking about it that hard either. I had the same foot in mouth reaction in 2014 when a professor confided in me how she was glad Obama care had passed even though she herself had healthcare now and no longer needed it. I knew I was supposed to hate Obama care though I couldn't articulate why. But as I learned and grew the more I staeted to question things. My school was never political but above all they taught me how to learn. Need a new skill for this project? Go on UA-cam and learn it we'll expect it done next week, the professor isn't going to teach you. The thing is, that is the most valuable skill you can have, the sooner you learn to question and deduce answers on your own the sooner you realize you've been had. By 2016 the conversion was complete and I voted for Hillary. Then Trump's presidency solidified my position, especially his handling of the the pandemic. I live in NYC where they had to rent refrigerator trucks for the bodies. The right has only gotten worse since then and the more you learn the more obvious it is. There's a reason educated voted always vote against Trump, it's harder to lie to us. Now I fear I'm witnessing the same fascist precursors that were in 1930's Germany. I just got into an argument with my mom last night. She's voted Trump again, I told her because of the election we're not having kids and if it gets bad enough we may move to Canada. I lost my shit and gave her and itemized list of all the way Trump is going to fuck us over. She had the same foot in mouth reaction that's all too familiar to me.
OK, I grew up with Rush Limbaugh as well. Parents blindly supported every Republican candidate, mainly because of abortion. I did too. But then the cracks in their principles started to appear. Crony capitalism. Pandering to whomever donated millions. The Iraq war. Straight up lying and misdirecting about the American medical system. Commentators flip flopping for quick political wins. Gerrymandering. Saying COVID was no more dangerous than a cold. The prison industrial complex. But then I looked at the Democrats. The same huge corporate donors. Compelled speech. Politicians and leftist celebrities using the same tax avoidance strategies as the rich. Cherry picking only the worst possible predictions from climate models. Suppressing studies about gender reassignment. Doubling down on outdated COVID policies instead of admitting that scientific knowledge of the virus was rapidly evolving. Being way too soft on violent offenders. Why would I support either party? Instead, I vote for certain centrists and Libertarians. Its not a matter of politics. Its a matter of principles and morality.
This is the way. Sometimes we have to go through the darkness to find the light again. I believe this presidency will educate many people who weren't paying attention. When they see their children suffer. I hope for the best for you.
Keep reading and learning. Most people become more conservative as they age, not because they "don't get it" or don't want to change, but because they learn, see the impacts of certain choices, and begin to recognize patterns. The challenging thing about the road to conservatism is that it takes time to see the forest for the trees. Liberal ideals seem obvious when getting into politics, but like any vice, it is good at first until it's not, and then there are regrets. For context, I also grew up in a conservative household, became liberal in a similar way, and returned to conservativism after trying to understand how anyone could believe the right wing. The more I dug into specific policy decisions, historical precident, the research that underpins political beliefs, and the academic quality of that research, the more apparent it became that the left promotes a lot of surface level feel-good junk policy. As an academic yourself, I'd encourage you to dig into the meat of the research you are reviewing, understanding the methodology used, and asking yourself: 1. if it is sufficiently rigorous, 2. if the conclusions align with the results, and 3. if the policy that references said research aligns with the findings. We are living in an age with lots of low quality research funded by biased actors looking to reinforce any given stance imaginable.
Its so refreshing hearing someone go this journey and sharing it. My home town is an ex mining town and we have a reform mp... Who is absolutely radicalising my loved ones. We had the most bnp members when I was growing up and if you dont know any better or see much outside of where youve grown up or others views your firmly stuck. Thankfully I had really smart people who helped me see the light when I was around 16 and those who havnt rubbed shoulders with the far right dont have any idea how difficult it is to do a U-turn. Good video and well done 👍
Id never heard of your channel before. This hit really hard. I live in the US and had this realization not long after January 6th 2020. I appreciate you putting so many of my thoughts over the past few years into words. I hope enough of us were able to do this before the election tonight.
Jimmy, I watched you since I started living in the UK, as a Ukrainian refugee here, I didn't know you had a Ukrainian wife, I just thought you had interesting insightful videos. Thank you for your work and thank you for your honesty and for supporting us. Much Love
I find it strange that we welcome the Ukrainen refugees w open arms yet the “brown” refugees are bad, idk it jus seems weird, curious but do you get a lot of hate like the boat immigrants get, I’m jus really curious as i always wondered
Socials are trying to make me hate women, I think it's even more targeted to people who spend a lot of time online or playing videogames. Luckly for me I have a sister which I love so much I don't believe I could ever hate women
social media is an alt right breeding ground, I always see on facebook some shitty soyjack with the "wrong" opinion and some chad with the "right opinion" picture and it's just modern propaganda trying to flip you to their side using some lame reactionary argument. You're smart for seeing it for what it is bro!
@@Maj-SHIPWRECKED What we consume influences our thoughts. It's nice to think we can choose what we think. But, we often just form our views based on what we consume in the media and conversations with other people.
Late to catch up with this- but really appreciate the way you shared your journey. Critical thinking is so important, but seems to be the hardest thing for people to learn.
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Thanks for great vid mate! Still deffo on the right and pro free speach, but really good to see someone articulate a lot of the issues with the right wing in the age of the internet. Glad I am not the only one!
im enjoying your content less and less.
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thanks bud
@@jimmyhackers8980 if politics is the reason detach from that, its not a personal attack, but a way of thinking and of seeing how others think. It is very important in order to not fall down into echo chambers and a skill few bother to practice these days
The amount of humility to not only admit that you were wrong, but the compassion to also paint your former side not as villains (but misguided), really makes this video top tier. Appreciate your story man.
That is something I forget to do as someone who was raised with conservative beliefs and changed my viewpoints. Sometimes when you’ve changed for the better, you hate the old parts of yourself and you hate it when you see it in other people. I have to remind myself that most people with conservative beliefs are like I was, just trying to do what’s right but they’ve been deceived.
I think the most important thing to realize is that most people have their political opinions because they care about something in a loving way and that their love is manipulated to give power to people who might be malicious or who might also come from a place of love who are just misunderstanding a system too complex to properly analyze
@@jole5468I like to believe that but the amount of absolute hypocrisy inherent in most southern rural conservatives is too much for me to forgive and that is also coming from someone who used to be one of them.
Such a shame lefties are incapable of that... Or any self reflection or discussion.
I saw Jimmy on snapchat and he was well spoken and seemed genuine. However, he used misinformation to represent maga and inequality saying the right controls the media and social media. The wealthy democrats like bill gates own the Washington post, Facebook, Twitter till Elon bought it, etc. The ciazzz also pays reporters to filter information. Kamala called out Elon saying free speech needs to be regulated so people can’t speak freely to millions online essentially.
Yes inequality needs to be addressed but it’s a total lie to say the party of the right is the party of rich people. The left support huge taxes in Cali because the rich uses tax loopholes like qualified small business stock exemptions to invest 50 million and sell the company for 5 billion 100% tax free and rollover the rest into new companies tax free. Yes I extremely dislike VP Vance cause he lied about hatians. But don’t hate on populism or a guy supported by the masses. Tons of democrats were populists like JFK, FDR, etc. Reagan was a populist and extremely bad when he sold cocaine and then prosecuted people that bought his drugs. He was bad.
But fundamentally look at Obama he supported the rich first and foremost. Rich rule said the greatest handout the rich got was when presidents pushed interest rates to zero which Obama did for years and the eventually it happened under trump after the federal reserve cut rates in 2019 or 2020. But you have to admit Obama dropping rates to zero making money free it was essentially a huge and massive tax cut or the equivalent of it. If the cost of capital drops dramatically it makes your profits way bigger meaning tax rates can stay the same and the rich earn way more still cause the government made cost of capital way cheaper essentially free for the rich. The academic left even in college believes in Keynesian economics and until you actually think about the cost of money and the institutionalized theft that happens when you create new currency out of thin air you’ll be indoctrinated thinking it’s moral because you simply just regurgitate what your professors teach you. Colleges don’t teach you to have healthy skepticism and question things in your mind. My tax professor thought estate taxes were moral even though the constitution says direct taxes must be apportioned amongst the states, and they never taught really that a lot of assets goes up simply cause the quantity of currency in existence continues to expand a lot keeping the inequality or bubbles in existence. They may mention it briefly but never to question if it’s moral or ethical or they’ll say it’s needed to maintain jobs but won’t admit it’s the largest reason for wealth inequality. If Obama would have let interest rates normalize or stay higher rather than taking them to zero for instance yes jobs would have been lost but the ultra rich would have lost a tremendous amount of money bringing wealth inequality down. There’s a reason Warren buffet supports democrats and still is filthy rich. He said he wants moats and protectionism for his businesses which is exactly what government agencies do is help protect his business. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have agencies and regulations but you must always discuss how that the government actually helps big corporations and make the left richer, too. It’s not just the right. Democrats used to be the party of the people but look at how many monopolies owned by democrat billionaires that exist. Democrats of the past were against massive monopolies and oligarchs and today seem to be the same party of the right but they differ on some issues to virtue signal. Amazon or bezos lawsuit in Georgia showed how DEI is used to increase diversity at warehouses because studies show the greater there’s diversity the less likely there are going to be unions! They’re using the woke movement to make more money essentially. Personally I’m not a fan of unions as I’ve read history and how unions abuse members or ran by the mob etc. but Amazon or bezos is horrible for virtue signaling when they’re really using the movement to help them.
Also if you care about wealth inequality think about this issue. If you have idk 300 million people or whatever in the U.S. and you bring in 30 million illegal immigrants over a decade and they’re 10% of the U.S. population obviously you’re going to make wealth inequality way worse statistic wise because you’re bringing in such a huge amount of new poor people you’re making the data even worse. No one talks about that.
Also talk about the key issue that the federalreserve or centralbank is privately owned and pays a 6%dividend to wallstreet. It’s fascist to have the government give a monopoly of the printing press essentially to wallstreet. The government pays wallstreet to borrow money. Essentially Bernie sanders promoting modern monetary theory is really far right and not a democrat or left. Bernie sanders is wanting to do what Abraham Lincoln as Lincoln used modern monetary theory to fund the civil war not borrowing from banks but printing the money without issuing debt. Yes it can be inflationary but it’s the government that has the right to create money not a private bank. So Bernie sanders can be considered as extreme far right like Thomas Jefferson since Bernie opposes a private centralbank.
This is great. You accidentally educated yourself really effectively because you were genuinely interested in a topic and thinking critically. Great story mate big ups
So sayeth the commie.
@@mothbreeder641 😂 oh comrade.....
People who have knowledge should show sympathy towards the ignorant, but dismiss the incurious.
@@emilefoy-legault1031 stealing this one
@@emilefoy-legault1031 not all ignorance is worthy of sympathy. Bad things happen when good people become ignorant. This aint an argument just an observation.
“jordan peterson is how i imagined smart people sound” is exactly what happened to me too and im so happy someone else said it
i honestly don't get how people think he sounds smart. I think i have heard smart things coming out of random crackheads stealing trash from our dumpster outside.
@ i mean neither do i but back then i was a sad, young, impressionable teenager who was failing in high school which is the exact audience that listens to jordan peterson, joe rogan, and the like
To the people who agree with that he says, Peterson sounds intelligent. To an educated individual, he sounds like a used car salesman.
I'm not sure if he does, my first impression of Peterson was someone editing him to be talking about gay rats and honestly that first impression might have saved me from imagining him as sounding smart.
He sounds smart, until you really listen to what he's saying, which is bullshit, but also when someone says something he disagrees with he just berates them and keeps changing the goal post, and that's when it really became obvious he's just a loud dumbarse
For anyone leaving the alt right, proud of you. We’re in this together, we have to keep going forward together.
You stand for nothing btw
We're at the point where donald trump is moderate, we're on a great track
Labelling any right wing belief as alt right is kind of generalizing right?
@@DevKumar-ex6zbexactly, they’re acting like only right wingers have ignorant people on their side, the left is perfect 😂
Can normal conservatives at least exist and not be labeled by y’all as racists?
Your point about the 60's being a great time because they invested in public infrastructure is the thing everyone needs to understand. Ignoring that fact is what large corporations want.
This is what kamala wanted to do, but America fell for the okey doke of the orange thing.
That’s not what Kamala wanted to do. The Democratic Party are exactly the type of neoliberal hacks that have only widened the inequality. Someone like Bernie is more appropriate for this ideology
Lol the war on poverty spent trillions in decades and only reduced poverty from 19% to 15%.
@@romcoles4600 those tariffs that they’re cheering for will be wild for their CPI
@@TheUltimateWriterNZ There are already posts about how some Americans are shocked when they find out that putting tariffs on China does not mean that China will be paying those tariffs; *they, the consumer, will.*
You can't help some people.
The fact there are people like you that can change their mind when presented with new information gives me some hope.
Unless the party of free speech were to continue to ban books & cut education funding.. almost like it's by design.
Sounds like he lost the ability to think rationally when his infatuation with his Ukrainian gf took over
Read : The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness
By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past
35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has
declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being
is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic
groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap
in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did
men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging-one with higher subjective
well-being for men.
"As a result of increases in both divorce
and out-of-wedlock childbearing by age 15 about half of all children in the US are no longer living with
both biological parents (Elwood & Jencks, 2001). These changes have, however, disproportionately
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impacted non-white women and white women with less education (Elwood and Jencks 2001;"
This is academic paper not "i read a book and watch a youtube video and shit from one belief system to another bcs i dont really know why i chose an idea on another and i also always took one factor as important and not several.
@@GamerFren100 expand on that.
I saw Jimmy on snapchat and he was well spoken and seemed genuine. However, he used misinformation to represent maga and inequality saying the right controls the media and social media. The wealthy democrats like bill gates own the Washington post, Facebook, Twitter till Elon bought it, etc. The ciazzz also pays reporters to filter information. Kamala called out Elon saying free speech needs to be regulated so people can’t speak freely to millions online essentially.
Yes inequality needs to be addressed but it’s a total lie to say the party of the right is the party of rich people. The left support huge taxes in Cali because the rich uses tax loopholes like qualified small business stock exemptions to invest 50 million and sell the company for 5 billion 100% tax free and rollover the rest into new companies tax free. Yes I extremely dislike VP Vance cause he lied about hatians. But don’t hate on populism or a guy supported by the masses. Tons of democrats were populists like JFK, FDR, etc. Reagan was a populist and extremely bad when he sold cocaine and then prosecuted people that bought his drugs. He was bad.
But fundamentally look at Obama he supported the rich first and foremost. Rich rule said the greatest handout the rich got was when presidents pushed interest rates to zero which Obama did for years and the eventually it happened under trump after the federal reserve cut rates in 2019 or 2020. But you have to admit Obama dropping rates to zero making money free it was essentially a huge and massive tax cut or the equivalent of it. If the cost of capital drops dramatically it makes your profits way bigger meaning tax rates can stay the same and the rich earn way more still cause the government made cost of capital way cheaper essentially free for the rich. The academic left even in college believes in Keynesian economics and until you actually think about the cost of money and the institutionalized theft that happens when you create new currency out of thin air you’ll be indoctrinated thinking it’s moral because you simply just regurgitate what your professors teach you. Colleges don’t teach you to have healthy skepticism and question things in your mind. My tax professor thought estate taxes were moral even though the constitution says direct taxes must be apportioned amongst the states, and they never taught really that a lot of assets goes up simply cause the quantity of currency in existence continues to expand a lot keeping the inequality or bubbles in existence. They may mention it briefly but never to question if it’s moral or ethical or they’ll say it’s needed to maintain jobs but won’t admit it’s the largest reason for wealth inequality. If Obama would have let interest rates normalize or stay higher rather than taking them to zero for instance yes jobs would have been lost but the ultra rich would have lost a tremendous amount of money bringing wealth inequality down. There’s a reason Warren buffet supports democrats and still is filthy rich. He said he wants moats and protectionism for his businesses which is exactly what government agencies do is help protect his business. I’m not saying we shouldn’t have agencies and regulations but you must always discuss how that the government actually helps big corporations and make the left richer, too. It’s not just the right. Democrats used to be the party of the people but look at how many monopolies owned by democrat billionaires that exist. Democrats of the past were against massive monopolies and oligarchs and today seem to be the same party of the right but they differ on some issues to virtue signal. Amazon or bezos lawsuit in Georgia showed how DEI is used to increase diversity at warehouses because studies show the greater there’s diversity the less likely there are going to be unions! They’re using the woke movement to make more money essentially. Personally I’m not a fan of unions as I’ve read history and how unions abuse members or ran by the mob etc. but Amazon or bezos is horrible for virtue signaling when they’re really using the movement to help them.
Also if you care about wealth inequality think about this issue. If you have idk 300 million people or whatever in the U.S. and you bring in 30 million illegal immigrants over a decade and they’re 10% of the U.S. population obviously you’re going to make wealth inequality way worse statistic wise because you’re bringing in such a huge amount of new poor people you’re making the data even worse. No one talks about that.
Also talk about the key issue that the federalreserve or centralbank is privately owned and pays a 6%dividend to wallstreet. It’s fascist to have the government give a monopoly of the printing press essentially to wallstreet. The government pays wallstreet to borrow money. Essentially Bernie sanders promoting modern monetary theory is really far right and not a democrat or left. Bernie sanders is wanting to do what Abraham Lincoln as Lincoln used modern monetary theory to fund the civil war not borrowing from banks but printing the money without issuing debt. Yes it can be inflationary but it’s the government that has the right to create money not a private bank. So Bernie sanders can be considered as extreme far right like Thomas Jefferson since Bernie opposes a private centralbank.
I went to uni for economics & you realize that nothing is “broken.” It’s working exactly how it’s supposed to and regular folk are not at the center of that. It cemented my political beliefs.
Interesting take! Can you elaborate a bit?
Honestly I feel this as well, there’s a massive stereotype of econ students and graduates being right wingers but I feel like it’s made me more left wing..
@@lv834 Check out the cartoon strips called "Economix". It highlights in all sincerity the impacts of what is taught in Econ 101 on the average worker.
@@lv834 i think they mean that the system is working as intended. You just have to realise that the intended outcome isn't human happiness, but generating wealth quickly and constantly and concentrating it in the hands of a few people.
Cemented to what exactly ?
This video is really an eye-opener for me. Growing up as a muslim in England, I used to have an irrational fear of the people on those Tommy Robinson march. Im starting to realise that many of them are not there for the reasons I think theyre there for...
Thats because the left wing establishment tells you everyone at those rallies is a far-right racist
It's nice hear someone trying a wider view of things
It’s very effective for certain groups to force the poor to fight each other. Oldest trick in the book! And the average Brit can ‘feel’ the poverty they are living in, but can’t attribute why. All they need is a loud personality to point them in a direction that makes them feel ‘right’ about that feeling while also telling them they have an enemy.
Every day there are more young men who are waking up from this pipeline, as well as those who drown in it. It’s not all lost!
As a guy under the same circumstances it got the point I held damaging, borderline racist beliefs about European people because the most I saw of them were the European Tommy Robinsons. UA-cam is barely usable nowadays because every other video is about some racist on a ‘crusade against the corrupting influence of islamism and fighting to protect the British’
Fell down the same pipeline, crawled out, humbled and better for it.
Thanks for this video Jim.
Well done you. It takes balls to admit it
Jimmy never entered the pipeline to begin with. What even is this video.
@@ReaverVandal22 100%
Same and realized I was trans as well
It takes a lot to realize that your wrong, but it takes even more to admit it in front of others and change your ways. Glad you did, buddy
“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”
- W. Buffett, 2006, NYT
I wasn't Even born in that year
To be fair to buffett.
He was saying that as an indictment to his own class.
He was talking about the banks who were propping up the housing bubble that would come to burst in 2008. He never meant it in ‘seize the means of production’ sort of way.
@@JoaoCosta-ly1sw How do you come to that conclusion? He said it while discussing tax codes.
"Further, in conversation it came up that Mr. Buffett doesn't use any tax planning at all. He just pays as the Internal Revenue Code requires. "How can this be fair?" he asked of how little he pays relative to his employees. "How can this be right?"
Even though I agreed with him, I warned that whenever someone tried to raise the issue, he or she was accused of fomenting class warfare.
"There's class warfare, all right," Mr. Buffett said, "but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning.""
@@rbourne35 You don’t have to pay taxes on assets, so obviously the tax code will always benefit rich people. The funny part is when leftists talk about increasing taxes, that will only happen for the middle and low class. The upper class will still use their assets as collateral and evade taxes.
Bro your honesty in this video is very refreshing need more people like you on UA-cam 💪🏼
Christ haven’t seen you since 2011
For fuck sake no, you clean up the garbage, not increasing it, we don't need idiots everywhere not just on UA-cam.
You think he's being honest or just grifting? his whole channel is clickbait
What the actual fuck do you think this will change anything?
Is funny how he paint the right is bad and now been woke is the good thing 😂😂
I was born and raised in a very conservative city in the south. My whole family, friends, coworkers and peers were all big maga supporters. I never really explored politics very deeply so I naturally leaned right just by association.
Then about 2 years ago I did a deep dive into politics and tried to arrive at my own conclusions on issues and that was when I started learning more left gradually.
When I reflect on my time being right wing I was deeply unhappy and pissed off all the time usually at some minority group or democrats, and I can see that with other family members.
Awesome videos outlining the alt right pipeline.
I was raised in a small Texas town with more churches than businesses, this same exact thing can be said about me.
I was a conservative just cuz everyone around me loudly was. There were three things that started opening up my eyes to the fact that conservativism is bullshit:
1) the fact that the Republican party were actively blocking bills from Obama that they simultaneously virtue signal about. It was the fact that they scream to their voters about how much they love and support veterans, but then wouldn't let Obama give veteran benefits more spending.
2) the racist rhetoric alot of my own family and friends would espouse in private behind closed doors. I was never a racist, hearing slurs always made me uncomfortable asf, and I heard them a lot growing up from uncles and older cousins. It made me want to distance myself from them, they even hated the "good" minorities. If you were Mexican, they hated you in private. Didn't matter if you were a legal or illegal immigrant or if you were a 3rd generation born and raised Texan. They hated black people regardless if they were on foodstamps or if they had 2 jobs. Whether they DreSsEd LiKe a ThUg or if they dressed classy and business-casual. When I started to realize this, it was a huge eye opener for me to just how much racism I was raised around and how much racism plagues conservative ideology.
3) honestly, just hearing Bernie speak on the American economy. It was everything that I ACTUALLY believed in but didn't know how to articulate or even if I was allowed to articulate it at the time.
That was almost 10 years ago and every day I've aged since, I find myself going further and further left.
“Jordan Peterson, to a young jimmy, sounded like how I imagined smart people sound” - you basically just summarized all of right wing commentators.
He is smart, just cause you’re a liberal doesn’t make you intelligent and just because he’s conservative doesn’t mean he’s dumb.
@@MarDuBronx I was a Peterson-follower for quite a few years, so i know him better than even most right-wing people. He is smart as in he has a high IQ, but he constantly talks about things outside of his field of expertise, which is just psychology. And he keeps using arguments that i only ever hear in right-wing conspiracy circles, like his absurd claims about climate change. But because he uses big words, his followers don't realize that he's just talking out of his ass. And not just that, his political commentary recently has been just bad in a "he has no idea what he's talking about"-way.
Like when the Labor-party won the election in Britain. He literally said that they were communists and that Britain would now go down the same path as Canada, even though those countries economies aren't remotely comparable.
My very smart dad listened to Peterson, so I gave him a fair shot. I couldn't get past how he'd say, and I'm paraphrasing, "Here's a lie. ('The American military did IQ tests after WWI and found those with >85 have no value." They did not.) What are we gong to do about this lie I just told? Sure wish someone would come up with some sort of final solution to deal with my lie."
Collect the proof that it was in fact a lie and present it to your very smart father who will then integrate that knowledge into his position on Peterson moving forward.
I'd actually like to see exactly what he said and the proof it was a lie so you'd be helping more than just your father.
Now the question is, do you actually care enough to go to the effort of doing that and changing the world (even if it's not a huge change, it's still a change) or do you just leave it at your vague comment on UA-cam that changes nothing?
If I had to put up an example of a smart right wing commentator, it would be Douglas Murray.
Moral of the story, left or right, dont base your entire worldview on what online commentators think, and if you agree on one thing, that doesnt mean theyre right on everything
Well said. In my opinion the problem of current socio-political world is this feeling of being stuck in a binary opposition choice. So the people simply start to adapt to the pre-prepared packages of believes if that makes sense. They just fail to realize that the world is more complex than that...
He believes left-wingers though, e.g.: he believes the non-sensical Home Office Report of 2020 (mentioned at 11:35) which has been debunked
@@krowaswieta7944exactly, the best thing I did was to start reading on the history and philosophy behind different political movements, then piece together my own worldview. It gave me a genuine understanding of my political beliefs and their strengths and flaws that the online binary left vs right culture warriors never could
Follow those who seek the truth and run - very fast - away from those, who've found it 😊
I'm a socialist, a democrat and a monarcist.
Oxymoronic, yes. But I'm Danish - so pragmatic enough to make it work 🤣
this is such an important video. i'm a psychology student that's chosen to focus on the alt-right pipeline, and having a real person with real viewpoints be honest about their past views and their genuine reexamination of what they thought was true is such a breath of fresh air. thank you for putting this up. thank you for being honest and real.
this is the kind of self-examination that will save humanity as a whole, no matter how long it takes.
i recommend you the documentary called "the brainwashing of my dad" it talks about a... dad going into a descent into faccism
How minds change by David McRaney has some great real world examples, highly recommend for everyone who enjoyed this video. It’s American but very good. On this side of the pond, Ivan Humble is a former EDL member, I think he’s made a few videos / interviews. Good luck with your studies :)
Not even a science....
@@liam-w9f what thing
@@thatsuckskaboodle"Its American but very good" sounds like "I hate America but this work supports my biases so its morally good" 🤡
Fair play to you ! You should do school talks mate, no messing. Young teens need to hear this.
My 12 year old nephew and all his buddies are right wingers, it's making a comeback
education on polotics yes, telling them the “correct” way to think, no. they can make their own minds up
@@oogabooga2337 educating kids on the seductive tactics of the far right on online spaces.
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021).
You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK.
It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child.
To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office).
But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
Doing a presentation on 911 at 13 is funny as hell
911 was probably quite recent when he was 13 too
@ even better
I was wondering if it was the Zeitgeist video he showed.
@@Morf3000bro that movie got so many young people into conspiracies
@@BosnianBEAST-ky9xv
Lol. 💯
This is a really fascinating video and a really brave one to make. Admitting you’ve been wrong is one of the most difficult things to do and you did it in a compassionate way to yourself and to others. You should be proud of this one mate
It’s a beautiful video… and this is a beautiful comment ❤
He wasnt wrong though
@@TonySpiketotally was and you still are 😉
Respect 👏🏼
We should all aim to admit to being wrong more often!
Genuinely a fantastic video, one of the best i’ve watched in a long time. Refreshing to hear such honesty, hopefully a lot will see this video and have a wake up point themselves
Yoooo iNabber, great to see you! Imma go catch up on your videos now
Absolutely. It's fascinating.
@iNabber You're a close pal of ImAllexx right? Weren't you the guy who kept a vulnerable woman financially dependent on you, until she gained weight and you couldn't understand why she wouldn't understand that you wanted to get rid of her?
@@sugarplumfairycakes you're trying to do a gotcha thing but in reality a lot of it was just relationship drama that should've never been made public
@@hinasakukimi So abuse is okay if the abuser agrees with your political worldview, that's good to know.
This is such a great video, this could help so many people if they're willing to listen.
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021).
You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK.
It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child.
To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office).
But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
Loved this. Grew up deep into the US conservative right, and I remember my own slow realization that I was being lied to after reading up on the reality of "the good old days." Good on you for sharing your story, I hope it blows up.
I'm so lucky I never got brainwashed like this lol
I will never understand people who get sucked into the right because when I heard for the first time this right wingers I immediately knew they were crazy. But I'm glad you found out the truth, unfortunately most Americans think Trump is a normal guy who is looking to save them, we are about to have a really really hard reality check.
The good old days when you could afford a house.
@@jaxsienplays9884what do you mean?
@@Lindeset Haha, I spent 20 years spouting things from the left, but I woke up from that after realizing the sick garbage the left has been recently flirting with. Not that I'm a hard right winger, but if you've totally been brainwashed by the left and not seeing the WHOLE story, you've been deceived. If you're all for controlling free speech, telling people what they can and can't say and supporting questionable policies for children, you need to start thinking critically, my man.
I was raised far right and once I started educating myself about economics and history it was completely life shattering. It was extremely uncomfortable to go through but I could unknow what I know. I resonate with your story so much.
Bollocks
Did this involve any university or college? If so, might want to dig a little deeper.
@@nicholasrova3698In college right now. It's hilarious because it's so obvious when they turn the switch on to brainwash me with Liberal ideology. I can literally tell from the first sentence when what I'm being fed is hot garbage.
Raised far right, how?
I was raised by white supremacists. I quickly dropped most of the racist thoughts as I became an adult and started living my own life. However, I was still extremely insensitive to racial issues and that sensitivity took me forever to develop. I wince thinking of the things I used to say.
I cannot express enough how much I appreciate the raw honesty you have shown in this video. I am glad I followed you a long time ago. Keep up the excellent work and thank you for what you do.
Good grief…
Either you were paid for this pathetic review or you’re just pathetic.
Just sad…
Can’t agree more!
Came here to say a similar thing what a legend
I was going to say the same thing, he's a fkin legend
Is praise warranted…
But…
Back the day these so-called C’C’s with a thank you for feed back.
Goof’s like this Nancy seem to think that it’s above your well wishes.
What an absolute t’wat this goof is.
Disrespecting and/or your followers…?
Stupid.
This cheek slapper won’t be around much longer.
I have 1 request to all the leftists. Do not isolate ppl who have minor disagreements with you. If someone agrees with most left wing values but says trans ppl should not be in women's sports than don't call them n*zis...that is what pushes ppl to the right. Rather have a conversation with them and agree to disagree
It is difficult to just agree to disagree. Calling people with different views Nazi is alienating. The issue though of trans women in sport is a specialist niche. There are already guide lines in sport about inclusion that those who regulate sport agree to in ways someone like me who oesn't understand sport at all won't understand. However, agreeing to disagree misses the point. Trans gender in sport became a distraction that hid other issues, like people believing scholarships were being taken from women by self identifying men , like female boxers being accused of being trans because they out box the women of regimes that don't like losing and the demonization of trans women who have been competing for years without issue until they become politically relevant. Agreeing to disagree is to not identify much more subtle issues, which once open to greater scrutiny get people closer to a balanced and truthful conclusion. Agreeing to disagree is a conveniently putting our fingers in our ears and singing la! La, la!
We all do it but we need to acknowledge we do this to maintain our indifference.
So then what solution do u propose? 76% Americans including me don't think that trans women should play in women sports. Not coz I've anything against trans ppl but i wanna protect women rights. For this I've been called all kinds of horrible things n i eventually drifted away from the left became a centrist.
@ashwinpawar5325 women are quite capable of deciding who they have in their space. Women do not need knuckle draggers "protecting" our rights while they ban abortion and worry about who pisses where. What I suggest is that sports federations decide their criteria for inclusion in particular sports.
@@ashwinpawar5325My solution is to let women decide for themselves who is allowed into their space. There is no necessity for men to decide who is female in female events. Women should be upholds the standard they decide in the chosen sport. Each nation or group may have different criteria, therefore those who chose to take part should be included or excluded or in accordance with the association rules. As they would be for any criteria.
An alternative solution is to dissolve the sex gender criteria in sport and make sport dependent upon personal achievements, rather than the incredibly male oriented first past the post accepted way.
What a dumb comment
I watched this last night and it dawned on me that I was radicalized without even noticing it. It’s frightening. Been thinking about it all day.
Had to leave a comment a day later, thank you. Thank you SO much ❤️
Wow that's amazing that just a video can have such an introspective impact
Don't believe everything you are told about migrants and Muslims. I was told the Muslims are our enemy. I went to the local mosque and read about Islam. It changed my view of Islam and Muslims. We all get sucked into the rightwing propaganda of replacement theory. I glad I woke up and realized I was being used as a tool to progress thier agenda.
Well done to you.
Thank you so much for being so open about this I really appreciate it
Bite model by Steven Hassan talks about the ways you can identify cult/authoritarianism.
I don't agree but dialogue is impossible on here, too censored.
It is so incredibly valuable for men to make videos like this. Speaking to people, specifically men, about the alt-right pipeline and the harmful perpetuation of disinformation is needed on these platforms. I appreciate how he approaches the subject from a place of understanding and consideration rather than judgement - it's so much more effective and productive.
DarkMatter2525 has a great video he did recently addressing young men about right-wing manipulators and telling his own story. By appearances you'd think he'd be a raised pickup truck driving, IPA drinking, January 6th-attending MAGA chud, but he's a "woke" anti-capitalist heathen lefty. One of my favorite finds on YT in the last year or so.
This! Young men need to see themselves in the people they follow. I’m glad you’re speaking truth to them. To all of us.
yes, because women are so much better by nature that a message like this is less valuable for them than for those pesky males.
sigh. I'm so tired of that pointless gender warfare. Let me guess, you consider yourself to be more inclusive than average?
He literally lied about the Pakistani statistics. British cops in Rotherham refuse to record the ethnicity of grooming gang suspects in 7/10 cases (BBC 2021).
You've probably seen this paper that claims White men are responsible for 88% of child sexual abuse in the UK.
It excludes one quarter of ethnic data and the largest category of sexual abuse is "indecent images," which includes school children sexting each other nudes. 36.5% of the data is child-on-child.
To make matters worse, this paper was authored by an anti-White, pro-immigration, pro-Palestine, misandrist, vegan, socialist, intersectional feminist college professor who wants to abolish the police (she works for the UK Home Office).
But sure let’s ignore his clear distortion at 12:30
As a lefty from a lefty family, this is so fascinating. Thanks for being so honest with your journey and what you used to believe, it's never fun to admit things you aren't proud off
How lefty is a lefty family? They all betas or what?
He's not being honest. He realized being left wing was better for his career so he decided to go that route and then did a complete strawman of the arguments he never found counters for so he can look like he "thought" his way out of it. This is the most obvious grifting I've literally ever seen on the internet. Absolute coward of a man, I can't even imagine what his father thinks of him.
@@michaelturley8222hahahaha can’t admit someone’s learnt a different way to think and suits them better. The enemy is the 1%, and not the lefty woke brigade, it’s not real mate!
I’m neither left nor right but the citings given here are spot on, he’s well informed and offers concise comparisons from the right and the left and summarises that in both regards the state is the enemy, the man at the top taking your earnings and distributing it to his wealthy friends is the bad guy and that the media only serves to bolster a negative image on the underclass. It’s worth hearing both sides to the coin always, corporations and governments aren’t always bad, but they usually are.
@@michaelturley8222 👆 Talking of strawman arguments. Some projection going on here from you.
‘Left wing’ gets ratioed into the ground. The most ‘successful’ (profitable) grifts all go right and far right, and you know it.
@tinciilizzi I find the story fascinating from the opposite side, since I was raised around the far right and it was considered the normal and reasonable stance for me. It's interesting to me hearing how someone falls into it without having been raised in it.
I’ve struggled to understand the pull of the alt-right, this was helpful.
This guy literally said he became right-wing because it made him seem more interesting and edgy. He never really believed this on an intellectual level, and thus, his perspective only tells you about how some people choose their views based on vibes. You haven't learned anything about people who really believe this, at least not from this video.
@@mr.timmons842you made more analysis than this stupid video
"I was a right-winger until I read a book" sounds so trite and simple, but it's really the way out of the pipeline. The bottom line though it that you have to care about being correct and honest. Most people, right and left, hold their beliefs because those beliefs make them feel good, smart, and special. I applaud your honesty and willingness to reflect, in such a public way, on how you came to believe what you do.
Most left wing people are left wing because they care about facts and being correct. They're the book readers
Actually, there is a difference between left brains and right brains. Now, I can't tell you if it's the chicken or the egg, but we do see a difference in the cultures that both types produce/engage in.
This enlightened centrist, everybody is the same position is intellectually dishonest. Just because one person is bad doesn't mean the next person will be good or vice versa. And the worst part of this both sides are the same is the sheer childish naivete that demands a childhood good vs evil rather than the complicated tradeoffs that are a result of a lot of history. Look, the US is a coffee drinker nation. Why is that? Could it be something about the Brits taxing tea and the Americans going "FU, we're drinking the other drink"? And if it could be something as innocuous as that, couldn't there be more issues that will require a balancing of interests for many parties. I mean, do the Brits actually want to pay for their part of the slave trade or their theft of resources from their colonies? That's one solution. But I'm pretty sure that the average Brit will say "i wasn't even born then. Why do I have to pay?" or something silly while enjoying the perks and benefits that arose from that theft of resources. (I mean, it sucks to be poor in Briton and not benefit but I bet your Queen enjoyed it for you.)
Anyway... the left, at least in the US, is far more data driven. The right is far more superficial and into optics and marketing slogans. Build a wall vs. the left saying "Most illegal immigration comes through expired visas and the mode of entry is airplanes.. Walls won't solve the issue". Are both sides really the same? I can change a leftist's mind just by presenting data. I can't change a conservative mind that way. I have to use fear mongering tactics. That's the difference.
And I'm tired of pretending that the right have any value in society. They're always on the wrong side of history. They make mistakes and those mistakes are paid for by the following generations. Brexit is just one more "mistake" that the right wing has made and it has damaged the UK economic situation. I'm tired of pretending the dunces have anything important to say about very serious issues that need adult level thinking to make solutions based on the best evidence and advice possible. I mean, Brexit should have been the final nail for the question .."Are conservatives dumb?" The answer is yes. This American could figure it out even without knowing many details because it's that obvious.
What book did you read?
@@ElronLaVeya bit open ended, but read things that you think you would immediately reject and see how your own ideas hold up to new ones
@@ElronLaVey univocally reccomedn you to read feminist literature. I was forced to read it as part of our school's IB English literature program (specifically, I read an English version of Woman at Point Zero and the really famous Handmaid's tale) and it got me out of the pipeline. like I immediately understood oh yeah I am a misogynist, oh yeah the world is definitely patriarchal (I think everyone knows this but people deny how prevalent it is in every aspect of both poor and rich countries) , and its dumb to hate women for no reason after that
Accepting one's mistakes and growing is the greatest act of strength, i've had a similar journey and i admire you for your ability to grow
I had a similar journey just The other way around😂
@@Vilafranca909 There is indeed hope for you then :)
Regression isn't growth lol.
@@MikeJones-m6rhow's it regression?
@@MikeJones-m6r I was in the right wing rabbit hole around 2016 and got out around 4 years later 😊
Well done.
I have a similar story: Shapiro, Peterson, Carlson, etc. and was exposed to incel communities like mgtow, but my epiphany came from a different place.
I was suffering depression and knew I needed to remove negativity from my life. It was very soon when I made the connection between the right wing media and its need to keep people angry.
Removing that cloud and consuming different news sources slowly opened my eyes.
Sorry u had depression
I went through the same thing. I ended up an incredibly angry person, mad at everything. One day it just clicked, as you said, noticing the vast majority of right wing media incentivised keeping its audience mad at everything else.
Sorry mate. Join us in the solar punk left. We have puppies for everyone.
I'm far right and mostly read left wing news sources, and can debunk them just from prior knowledge I already have. I don't agree with those people. Ben Shapiro says the browning if America is fine. Jordan Peterson is okay with immigration because he's all about individual rights. Carlson might actually be reasonable, but keeps it ambiguous. You should have listened to Lana Lokteff, Jared Taylor, Nick Fuentes, Mark Collett
@@mecklas Anger is the emotional response to perceiving injustice. Psychologists warned against seeing anger as problematic. It's actually vital for starting a positive change. Vegans are mostly left wing but also rightfully very angry about the brutality being done to innocent animals
wow! the ability to analyse and change your stance...its rare! its true intellectualism. I appreciate this so much. thank you
Thanks for your honesty. I've lost friends to some of this stuff. A lad I went to school with was sadly executed by ISIS, he was an aid worker, David Haines RIP. A friend who was deep down the rabbit hole straight up said to me that he was a 'crisis actor' and it never happened, we've not spoken since.
I spent a summer in Ukraine in 2012 working on the Euros, made some friends. When the Maidan protests occurred, some of them took part and I was taking in what was going on and in contact with them. The same guy, this was before David's death, said my friends were 'nazi's' and they were the problem. It was so exasperating trying to explain things to him and ultimately fruitless. I'm pretty sure he is still ranting crap on FB to this day, he was a big part of my decision to ditch FB 10yrs ago, I don't miss it.
you are not alone in these experiences, this is claiming lives everywhere it touches
Fair point. Well said 💛
To be fair a significant portion of euromaidan protestors were actually legit neo-Nazis. It’s unfortunate, but it’s the truth
Calling people a 'Nazi' is the left's stock in trade. Its all they ever do.
Liberal ends friendship with right winger. Also, water is wet.
I de-activated my twitter account about 2 weeks ago, and literally all the "alt right" stuff and exposure to grifters in my life vanished. I feel liberated.
Same, I was never alt-right but it was always there in my feed. Just seeing every other post, and the comments that accompany them, spewing hatred non-stop was enough to make me delete my account.
I'll miss the spaceflight updates, I'm a big space nerd, but I'll always have UA-cam for that.
Honestly disconnecting from twitter - the left or right of it - is just generally a good idea.
Almost every time the left makes a mistake it seems to be on twitter.
@@alansmithee419 not going to argue with you on that one. It is an amplifier for the worst of both sides and it's just depressing.
@@alansmithee419 Most of Twitter is literally just bots by now anways. No reason to be there.
Im not gonna buy Nitros, NFTs, Crypto or visit "hot milfs in my area". Thats all you get from most "totally real" users by now.
Congratulations ❤
I was fully right wing my whole life and I loved these commentators, especially Jordan Peterson.
The Jan 6th riot peeled the scales off my eyes and made me think about it.
Jordan Peterson's reaction to the Ukraine war was the end of it for me. The callousness and ignorance on display just blew my mind. How can you look at that situation and conclude Putin is somehow a defender of western civilization. Completely delusional. I was done after that. I wish I spent the time I wasted listening to them on learning a language or just working out in the gym. My life would be better.
J6 was called for peacefully. Video evidence showed a peaceful protest until arguments escalated. One could argue that Capitol police agitated the protests. Now the Biden Administration is even attempting to jail non-political journalists for even being near the Capitol.
Also not all Conservatives and right-leaning people agree on Ukraine and Russia, so to stereotype a political wing from one person is a bit much.
It was one bad take. Every commentator has them.
@@PhillipClearmanno not “just one bad take” these takes are rooted in their ideology in manipulating their audience. The second it stops making them money they will apologize for it because 99% of the time they dont believe in their own reactionary rhetoric. They know they can make a quick buck off of you believing in it though.
You're lying. I can tell.
If you actually WERE right wing, you'd know we wouldn't leave our guns at home if we actually wanted to commit an 'insurrection'. Nor would we switch for the 'more moral side'.......that supported riots nation-wide for years. As for the Ukraine war; I still don't believe you. You sound like someone that once heard a clip somewhere and based your entire argument on that. When it comes to Western Civilization, name one leader of ANY European country that actually put Western culture first. Just one. I dare you. Literally all of them sold out. Multiculturalism, diversity is our strength, men can get pregnant, etc. All of them.
You weren't done because you never started, you're just larping as a conservative. But you stick out like a sore thumb to an actual one. You don't understand us, so you can't emulate us.
If the Jan 6th event caused you to pivot from conservative to not you definitely didn't actually have any conservative core values. You are being untruthful or you have an extraordinarily high level of agreeableness. Either way your statement illustrates you as a remarkable contrarian.
as a transgender kid growing up in florida, i definitely grew more liberal the older i became. as i became a teenager, i rebeled against the conservative norm at the time and experimented with self expression and decided that i liked being trans, it made me happy, and i think we should do our part to make the most people happy. by welfare programs, investing money into infrastructure, into community, etc.
Your ability to think critically about these subject matters was your way out. It’s a shame so many others don’t have the capacity to do the same. Keep up the good work!
I think a big part is also the simple willingness to change one's mind when the right information comes along. There's people out there who see it as weakness or "flip-flopping" to change your opinion, and won't do it no matter what is being said, instead they'll find new reasons or conspiracy theories to believe the same thing they've always believed.
But I think the greater point is missed. The left and right are made of the same people, they just bought into different cults. Examining each situation critically is the way to go, then prioritizing the options. Don't trust either side. Don't buy the hat, join the club, or follow anything blindly. You'll start to love your team more than the game. He seems to also suggest that the right is the group that made everything about identity. That is an odd take.
@@aurora1445You know, I've never heard it stated as weakness, but it makes sense, considering how divisive politics is, especially in my country (USA).
With this election just being finished, I am now worried to even discuss politics outside of people I know. I'm genuinely worried of the prospects that a fascist state will rise. If you are American, I hope you feel the same, simply because I hope you see the dangers Trump/Project 2025 presents.
Regardless of nationality, have a good day!
Read : The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness
By many objective measures the lives of women in the United States have improved over the past
35 years, yet we show that measures of subjective well-being indicate that women’s happiness has
declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women’s declining relative well-being
is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic
groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap
in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did
men. These declines have continued and a new gender gap is emerging-one with higher subjective
well-being for men.
"As a result of increases in both divorce
and out-of-wedlock childbearing by age 15 about half of all children in the US are no longer living with
both biological parents (Elwood & Jencks, 2001). These changes have, however, disproportionately
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impacted non-white women and white women with less education (Elwood and Jencks 2001;"
This is academic paper not "i read a book and watch a youtube video and shit from one belief system to another" bcs i dont really know why i chose an idea on another and i also always took one factor as important and not several.
Trump won soy boy
I'm sorry, but a 13 year old giving a presentation on how 9/11 was an inside job, is such a fucking funny image 😭😭😭
a 13-year-old brit nonetheless. The teachers must have been entirely unprepared for this.
It’s literally South Park lol
I was 16 when 9/11 happened and I had the same thoughts. The irony is that as a conspiracy it’s plausible, not saying it’s factual just saying it doesn’t violate the laws of nature. Now we have directed hurricanes and space laser forest fire conspiracies. Much like privatized freight it’s off the rails.
@@trianglemoebius honestly you'd be surprised by how many there were. Listened to at least a few at my school
Did a presentation in eighth grade how feminism is bad and privilege isn't real... I am a white queer woman. I cringe so hard thinking about my teenage self and her politics.
Powerful video for young men the world over, god bless you mate this is a public service.
And not for women no? You’re still part of the problem… in fact you ARE the problem.
Thanks
When my Dad got his finger ripped off from working on a car and him and my Mom fighting over whether they could afford to go to the hospital or not, I realized that our healthcare system was broken.
If you want capitalism to succeed, you need healthy and happy workers. Medicare for all/universal healthcare achieves this while also cutting the miles of red tape surrounding health insurance.
Without healthy, happy workers any business in any state will fail
Depends on your definition of capitalism succeeding. There are now more billionaires than at any time in modern history so it's succeeding for them. The ordinary people are just ants to them.
@@andyhxFor real. This is what capitalism succeeding looks like. The people in the best position to exploit the markets do so and get richer.
@@andyhxmost billionaires in history and most people living in misery then almost any time in modern history. Most people are not ants, we are cows that those on top want to milk until the last drop
U sound American? Me too
I've been a socialist for a long time now, and the way the question of economics has been hidden by the culture war is endlessly frustrating.
this is so true, even in the nordics that have been very left most of our modern history the alt right are bringing the culture war bullshit and trying to hide all the real problems behind Muslims and drag queens = bad. soon they have ruined this place entirely because no one is listening to the left who are actually talking about the real issues and solutions :(
Sorry to hear about your socialism diagnosis, hope you get better soon.
@@Culturedthug1776 Hey now, in the comments under a Jimmy the Giant video, why can't you be more like Jimmy the Giant?
guess who started culture wars? the left, your comrades... I mean how can you be so blind to what happens in your own ideology?
@@markathkbo760 so true
Dude. This has got to be one of the most compelling case studies of our time, I've been on a similar journey, I see all my friends being consumed down the alt right rabbit hole and they won't listen to reason, they spew the most outrageous nonsense and I can't stop it. The division in society has never been more scary, you've managed to lay out something I've been really struggling to get my head around. Power to you. James Obrien is who started to get me thinking and now I'm a 'leftie'.
We have very few strong rational role models but there are more emerging from the the fold as time goes on.
This comment is truly representative of the culture problems.
There are quite a few rational role models who were there all along. all women though, and you might have overlooked them. I would say you should examine some unconscious bias there, it is nothing to be ashamed of, we all grew up in this world.
Maybe you could get them to watch Dr. K? He's not directly political, so your friends might be more willing to listen to him. He's a psychiatrist who offers viable solutions to some of the problems a lot of young people (especially young men) have, which might be enough to make your friends less susceptible to extremists.
Oh, and also, he's a good role model. Some guys are initially skeptical about his advice, but he's happily married with a beautiful "model" looking woman (the words of some in the community) with kids, so they eventually believe that what he says at least has more validity than the words of some chronically single dude bro.
I live in Texas, and I’ve lost about 80%-90% of the friends I made throughout my life for this same reason. It was like someone flipped a switch, and suddenly I was a commie loving, traitor, woke (whatever tf that means) loser because I don’t gargle Trump’s nutsack like he is a gawd unworthy of our existence. All these years later I still have no explanation how any of this happened.
Just remember that the far-left pipeline can be as dangerous and divisive.
Key thing is to remember that nuance is important.
Oh thank Christ. Young people are learning to read. YES! There's hope. Dude, I've been watching all this suff and more. This is probably the best video I've seen YEARS MAN! 🎉
“If you stand for nothing, then you’ll fall for everything.”
And what, pray tell, do you stand for?
The most gullible people, at least that i'm aware of, have already swallowed at least one major unfalsifiable.
yeah, well.. Yeah? what does that have to do with the video
@@MorganEdgy it means that ending up on the alt-right is a natural result of only trying to disagree with people.
@@MorganEdgy
Because the guy in the video stated in the beginning that he was a contrarian. He just went with the inverse of the flow, dummy.
@@MrCaCaaaaaaaaa how does that make him "stand for nothing"? Would you mind elaborating for this dummy?
One of the best videos I have seen in a while. Everybody should watch it. Thanks for doing this, it's much appreciated. I've always been left leaning but I also like to be challenged in my views and to change my mind when new evidence arises. We need this kind of discourse and we need to listen to each other. Best of luck to you!
You said the operative word: "Ego"
So many people have fragile ego's, especially when presented with facts that prove them wrong. And that's why they feel they need to push back or doible down on their rhetoric.
Well done Jimmy on this. It was a very well presented and honest video.
This goes for any & all ideologies/beliefs systems
When people believe that they know the "truth" it too feeds their ego. Especially with conspiracies and alt beliefs, like they're one of the few who aren't brainwashed by the big bad wolf.
Then there are people who aren't necessarily arrogant, but who don't want to be looked down upon. So they adopt the views that will please those around them. Their ego shields itself from feeling stupid or immoral by this defense mechanism.
This is also due to cognitive dissonance. Once you have adopted a certain worldview, your mind wants to hold on to it by any means necessary.
Kind of like how the American neoliberal establishment was so sure they were right about everything and just got a massive rejection from the American electorate.
You say that, and everybody will agree with it, but NOBODY will ever think it's them who might be wrong or needs to change. Especially not on this left side of UA-cam.
You’ve got a new french fan, mate! Thank u so much for your honesty and of course for the work you did on this specific subject!
I am an American former MAGA I have a Ukrainian wife like yourself, and the way people on the right reacted to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was such a whiplash moment to me that had me question my entire belief system. To think that the party of Reagan could side with a Russian dictator hit me like a ton of bricks.
I'm happy you posted this. I remember reading a case study by neuroscientist that showed that right leaning ppl have less empathetic reasoning to ppl shown in their brain unless it effects them. Unlike left leaning people who naturally have an increase of empathetic quality for the general public. My question is, if your wife was not Ukrainian, would you have cared and / or left MAGA? Can you actually remove yourself from the conversation and care for others than yourself and what's only connected to you.
@@ramunebradfordtake2710 Left leaning people don't have a predisposition toward empathy for the general public. That's a faulty interpretation based on bias. Left Leaning people are VULNERABLE toward rhetoric that CLAIMS to be in support of the general public good based on certain commonalities. Left leaning people are predisposed toward Interventionism, imposing themselves or the state to forcefully fix a percieved moral 'wrong' in society, by force if nessisary.
"IF someone is homeless, it isn't their fault. WE need to help them! It's the right thing to do!" vs "That person has created their own problems, and has demonstrated they have no intentions of improving their decision making anytime soon. This is a waste of resources. IF you want to help them, go ahead."
Left leaning is HEAVILY into collectivism, often to mitigate personal responsibility and costs associated with buying into literally every percieved issue presented to the group. Which is dangerous for a few obvious reasons. Most prominantly, because it is unsustainable and inevitably leads to forceful means of coercion to draw in those who are otherwise unwilling to support the 'cause' in question. "We need everyone-" and "If everyone was on board-" are common speaking points for when a proposal falls short of initial expectations, blaming the lack of additional participation, rather than a faulty premise or endemic issue with the proposal itself.
Right leaning trends toward independence and selfsufficiency. With the perception being that closeknit communities and relationships are your support network and should be the focus of your responsiblities. Losing sleep over people you don't know, is unproductive and energy that could be better spent elsewhere. Of course, this can cause problems in a global society where the decisions of nations generate consequences beyond that small scope of focus. An example being that an investment made now, in a foreign nation, say Ukraine, could save significantly more resources down the line compared to leaving an issue outside of their responsibilities alone until it becomes one. This applies to social issues as well, regarding inmate rehabilitation, drug addicts, etc.
Ideally, centrists, who share traits from both groups, and constructive and productive compromise between the two groups, generate a workable balance. However, more often than not, the party elected into majority runs roughshod over the other. Two party systems (In practice, if not in law) are better than many alternatives, but are far from perfect. I'm sure we can all agree on that front. Especially since they have 'extras' baked into them, which people don't agree with.
@@ramunebradfordtake2710 that makes a lot of sense and also explains what is being allowed to happen in the Middle East right now.
@@ramunebradfordtake2710Right wingers also place high value on automatic, strict obedience - which means them toward authoritarianism.
I think endless taxpayer funding to fund a foreign war seems dumb. There was peace talks until the US decided it was bad for business to stop the war. Doesn't mean right wingers love russia, they just don't give much of a shit about ukraine.
Meets a hot Ukrainian, stops listening to Andrew Tate. Jokes aside, fair play to you. I think a lot of lads would benefit from opening their eyes a bit.
Wrong way round, stops listening to the taters, becomes a more well rounded & empathetic person... then he meet someone.
He'll compromise his morals for vagina. Great attitude.
@@wraithship bingo!
Yeah lust is powerful
@@GamerFren100 love*
I was raised in a totalitarian, authoritarian, military dictatorship. Raised on our national propaganda. All magazines, newspapers or books were banned if they told a different story than the government line. I fell for it completely. I believed our leader was incredible - barely human. I had heard we had political prisoners but I just couldn't understand what their problem was - we had an amazing government - what was there to protest?! Then years later I went to the USA for university and I was able to read books about my home's history. It was not so pretty. And at the same time I was in US university my home had a democracy movement that ended up forcing the one party government to democratise and have open elections. I had to begin facing that I had fallen for the propaganda and realise that my heroes were not so amazing after all... I began to realise the guys who I thought were idiots for rocking the boat were actually the heroes.
Of course, we want to know what that military dictatorship was
Also be careful about what propaganda are you willing to read
What country are you from?
i cant imagine how insane it would be to suddenly realize your whole worldview was built on someone elses lies - i don't know how long it's been since this all went down but i wish you the best in readjusting :) its never your fault for falling for such carefully crafted propaganda and i applaud you for making the impossible leap and breaking out
@@dwelldell8715i would like to know aswell
I am humbled. It takes a lot to look inside and change sides.
As a lefty with a teenage son who has rightwing sympathies, this was a great video that crystallized a lot of the issues we have.
Ugh, that’s got to be tough, I’m sorry. It’s bad enough for people with right wing parents, I can’t even imagine how difficult it is the other way around. I hope he realises his sympathies are in the wrong place soon. Good luck. ❤
The more you try to indoctrinate him the more he will rebel. Have fun.
Don’t you mean genderless blob
@@jaybee4118 pretty sure rightwing sympathies are normal to have, since they have been around for thousands of years. Radical leftism aimed at stomping out any opposition on the other hand, not so sure
@@barahngsame goes for right wing parents indoctrinating their kids-unless ofc they are very submissive and always defer to what their daddy tells them, like you do.
I dont often comment on videos, but i just want to congratulate you on the self analysis, and thank you for making this video
I think the biggest problem is that people on the right and left insinuate that opinions have to come in packages. It is possible to hold left-wing and right-wing beliefs at the same time. This is what caused political splintering in Germany in the last couple of years within left-wing parties specifically.
You are so correct, that’s what I could never understand about politics. If one party had a good idea, they don’t go that would be great for the people let’s all get behind this and make it happen.
They will vote against it because if that party is credited with that idea maybe they will not win the next election.
So every time the people lose out. The politicians keep playing their child like games and we the people will somehow always get the blame for their mistakes.
The rich don’t pay enough taxes, the poor cost the state too much in benefits. The rich leave the country because of government legislation and over taxation. I have not heard one rich person say I don’t mind paying taxes but I want the government to use my money more wisely. Poor people on benefits want jobs but the government doesn’t help them to get jobs, just creates employment by making training courses which hides the real numbers.
Governments have been managing numbers for the last 40 years and some how in their mind they have forgotten how to govern people.
You've hit the nail on the head. I personally believe in right wing values around sustaining yourself and bettering your skills, without relying on others to do it for me. Yet I have huge respect for those of other races, nationalities etc. Yet I've found "far righters" call me a far left *insert insult of the week here*. No, I'm building my wealth and career, they're living on benefits for three generations.
The problem is that people are generally stupid.
I'd certainly never vote right in this current landscape. If they cut the crap and got some moderation back, then I may change my mind. Populism is cancer.
100%. I realized this during the abortion debate. Data suggests children born to single parents and parents who aren't expecting to have children grow up to have a less fulfilling life than those otherwise, Obama said this. So I didn't understand why all of a sudden the "right" which prides itself on being logical suddenly all took the humanitarian side of "every life is important", and the "left" all wanted to kill their kids? This is how they've kept us divided and unwilling to compromise for so long, because opinions which are regarded as being either "right" or "left" could easily be assigned to the other under a completely rational justification.
absolutely... its completely insane how most people put themselves in boxes... im more "right wing" (by todays standards lol) .. but I certainly have some views or policy positions that would be viewed as left... its madness... and its also madness how drastically the overton window can shift and people just follow along without even realizing the political parties have radically shifted just in the last ten years.... a lot of what is "right" today was "left" 20 years ago and vise versa.
Politics hasn’t really been about policy in a long time. It’s mainly coalitions of certain types of people. For example, conservatives favor free markets and reject tariffs, yet Trump champions tariffs to court rust belt working class people so suddenly all the right wingers are into tariffs now… it’s stupid.
First time watching. Keep up the good work 👍 people need to hear this
One of the best things I've seen on UA-cam in a long time. Your eloquence, humility and intelligence shines thru.
This guy is trying to deny that the racial and religiously motivated, hate crime of Muslim grooming gangs happened. There is absolutely no virtue in that. No doubts that some loser will flag this comment on ideological grounds. FYI- social democrat, ex social worker commenting who is for political engagement not demonisation!!
Even as a boy who grew up in council estates, my mum was single struggling on benefits after my dad left, crutched on the NHS because one sister has epilepsy, the other has cystic fibrosis and my brother was born without nasal airways. I found myself subscribing to my friend's dad beliefs on far-right freedom and altogether removal of health care systems. He state something like 'women shouldn't be in hard manual labour but you should never hit a woman or treat her with disrespect'. So my young mind says that the second part is really good, that first bit is weird but he must be good because of the second part, slowly adding weird extreme views mixed in with obvious respectful views to soften the blow.
Watched the exact same happen to a friend of mine with Jordan Peterson. Hits you with the most widely acceptable beliefs with sprinkles of extremism so they don't seem weird anymore.
Imagine thinking Jordan Peterson has extremist viewpoints, LMAO. I can't wait until leftists actually encounter the real right wing.
What about instead of you feeling obligated to follow what someone does, instead you agree on some ideas and disagree on others
@@rhysrailYou forget that kids trust adults and expect them to know far better than they do. That saying something with conviction is impactful. When someone insists something, they seem to believe it’s true, and there must be a reason they believe it.
What? Your mom had four kids and at least three of them have horrible birth defects? Where did you live, on Love Canal?
@@pheonixrises11 I wasn’t talking about when he was a child I was talking about how he is completely disregarding all of the right wing idea’s because he doesn’t like a few of them
I used to be someone who watched Peterson and fell for a lot of Farages lies, I started becoming more left wing during the pandemic when I ran out of things to watch and a trans creator was recommended to my by UA-cam, who was making videos going up against big religious nutjobs in America (like Kent Hovind), then I came across more trans creators, such as F1nnster and I realised that these trans people are actually alright and more entertaining than the right wing who just complained and complained. Ever since disconnecting from the right and their constant negativity, I've actually felt happier and, mentally, been doing far better than before.
i'm so happy for you, i'm glad you'd rather have fun than stay in that pipeline
Funny, isn't it? I'm still having a hard time accepting that I actually had to expose myself to trans creators to realize that trans people are humans, and thus trans rights are human rights.
As for Jordan Peterson, watching him talk to Matt Dillahunty is a gift every fan of this pseudo-intellectual should give themselves. The spontaneous laughter erupting from the crowd when JP says "It's really mysterious!" gives me hope for humanity.
We should be educating our youth about the risk of being trapped in echo chambers, and about resisting the tendency to seek saviors and scapegoats.
Contrapoints by any chance?
@@breadfan7433 thank youuu! After seeing a pattern in history studies of horrible people hating a group especially because they are distant from them, I realised how certain groups become this boogie monster when you have no contact with them. It’s so important to humanise any group that we get told to dislike first , really hear their story and then choose our standpoint
Many conservatives have nothing against trans. Look at Blaire White. The main fight is against transing and indoctrinating our children.
You really gotta give yourself the credit for really putting in the time to do your own research and your open mindedness to really let these challenging ideas enter and fight with your biases. Really goes to show how humble you are a lot of people really let their ego take over when it comes to this kind of stuff
Thanks for growing as a human; life sucks hard enough
Thank you very much for the dono man - really appreciate it ❤️
I grew up in a Christian (or claimed to be Christian) fundamentalist group called the ICOC. I genuinely believed that the only people going to heaven were people baptized in our little 200,000 member church and that the other 8 billion people in the world were going to hell because they didn’t “do Christianity the correct way” (my way.) I was taught that people who left our group were just bitter and ungrateful to God, until I started watching UA-cam channels made by people who left our group. They’d explain why they left (the abuse, the toxicity, the beliefs,) and I found myself relating to the people I looked down on. I myself left when I was 18 and it’s been pretty hard when my family thinks I’m on the path to hell for not believing the icoc’s doctrine anymore. But I didnt want to keep viewing people outside our church as just potential converts I needed to swoop in and “save.” I had other issues with my former church but that exclusionary belief system never sat well with me even when I was a child.
And the more you pull apart the messaging and methods of control, the more you realise that's how domestic violence relationships operate.
as someone raised in a Labour voting christian home ... I have never got my head around the american religious right.
Congratulations on leaving a cult, I'm sure it must've been hard. But you've done well
The funny thing is, I’ve seen Atheists act more in accord with the teachings of Christ than people who loudly proclaim themselves Christians in extravagant churches.
@@rickyp6815it’s kind of like how certain groups on the left have perverted Christian beliefs, but on the other political side
I was once in the pipeline too. I got out of it when I was in 2018, as I came to many similar conclusions through courses that I got auto assigned to in university. I learned about a lot of things that challenged what I had absorbed through the pipeline, but most especially about the prison industrial complex in America that incentives crime quotas, which in turn influences over policing, which in turn warp the crime statistics, which shape our view of societal ills, and for the first time I understood how those statistics were taken out of context and fed to me through alt right content in order to make me think that other people were the problem, and the not way that society was being allowed to run. This video was fantastic, going through falling into the pipeline, coming out of it, understanding and becoming kinder. There’s a lot of empathy here in your video and I think it has the power to do a lot of good.
So you're a liberal loon once again.
@@watchRedIceTV so you're an immigrant hating sheep
Youre a natural follower, your fate is to get pimped around by ideologies and ideologies until the end of your existence. One day, you will too become conservative, probably when you have kids.
The internet neonazi to transgender pipeline is real bidenway
@@watchRedIceTV you missed the entire point of the vid huh
@@youraveragepasser-by7367 Nope. It is going back to cosy mainstream ideology is more comfy than evil yet wholesome "alt-right" traditionalism.
Thank you: this video showed me better ways to communicate with and understand my right wing friends
Thank you!
In 2016 I bought into the whole meme warrior, triggering the left alt right contrarionism, and then I grew up and realised its all petty bullshit
repent to God
So you became a leftist or you kept your dignity ?
@mrsushicut Both. I became an informed free thinking adult. Maybe one day you will to
@@arcus9590so leftists are informed free thinking adult?
Totally not biased😂
@@arcus9590If you have to say "I became an informed free thinking adult" then it's pretty much guaranteed that you didn't do any of the mentioned but you are trying to convince yourself and others you did
I have never in my life have left a comment on anything… a social media post or UA-cam video but this video was so good that I just wanted to say thank you for making a great video 🎉
A vert honest and informative video. I'm probably a minority in your audience; I'm a woman from an immigrant background, but have been following your videos for the past year because I find your explanations of UK social problems very succinct and well researched. I'd really like to see you cover the state of misogyny and violence against women in the UK, I think you would probably be able to cover this topic in a way that would resonate with men and boys, without it being preachy. Also it's great to see so many people in the comments who have also escaped this pipeline! Well done to you and everyone else, it takes a lot of self-reflection, maturity, and intelligence to turn your back on an ideology you have previously trusted!!
Remove the women quotas in the workplace
@@jaz093 ?
@@jaz093 what are you on about bruh
Ooh, spot on, sister!
@@jaz093 troll much?
This video is a masterpiece. Huge respect to you.
The hipster argument you bring up is actually super important I think. A lot of people want to feel like rebels. That is their reason to go down the right wing pipeline.
I agree and sometimes think this is the strongest drive for people to join the far right. Boredom and being jealous of the perceived public importance of other groups.
It is a simple way to feel important.
It's not being a rebel if you're learning about the world around you that they don't want you to know
@@FakenameStevens What is by definition, a rebel 😂
@@FakenameStevens “they don’t want you to know” so learning about it is “rebelling” against them no?
@@PityOnlyFools Baaaa I should only listen to ze mainstream media and live in ze pod and own nothing and be happy baaa like a sheep man 🐑🐑🐑
Welcome to Reality, bruv! It's boring af because there's actually no "shadowy cabal" pulling the strings of the world, but it is comforting because we can actually do something about it like taxing the billionaires more.
Sincerley,
A former 2009-2011 Alex Jones fan
I mean there very much is a cabal pulling strings. They just don’t care about gender affirming care, but about preserving societal hierarchy so they can continue to profit from
😂😂
Honestly, to go from somebody being in control with the deduction that it's controllable to the realization that nobody is in control and it's just an uncontrollable chaotic system can be quite scary.
I seriously suspect that that's why it's often hard for conspiracy theorists to get out of that mode of thought. It's like delegating the world to a god, it puts existential dread to rest with an uncanny certainty.
To let go of that is to have to accept that you live in a world wherein, if you really get down to it, nobody actually really knows what they are doing. Not something that's generally easy to be at peace with, ergo conspiracy theories and religions.
@@lopendepaddo bingo! That's why I also became atheist after escaping the conspiracy theory world. And honestly I've never felt more secure and confident in the world around me. Life's so much better when you don't believe in a boogieman/cabal/God controlling everything!
Nope no shadowy cabal just Blackrock and the Bilderburg Group. 😂😂😂
This is genuinely one of the best vids I’ve seen in ages. Owen jones being the one who disillusioned you is the icing on top. Thank you for being self aware enough to drag yourself out of the right.
Owen Jones is the only leftie I've seen who doesn't hate chavs
Discovered this channel few days back. Loving the content. Hilarious yet insightful.
You described JP perfectly. He’s only academic smart if you’ve never seen one before.
He has a big vocabulary but behind the words, I always noticed that fundamentally, a lot of what he said just didn't stand up to scrutiny.
Some of JP's earlier concepts were drawn from things like old-fashioned literature studies, done quite badly. For example, his analysis of Pinocchio. I think for a lot of people those analyses were mind blowing because previously they hadn't seen anything like that before. It sounded like he saw through culture in a way nobody else did, but what he was really doing was rediscovering and repurposing mid-century analysis in order to make social arguments--which literature scholars of course would not go so far as to make.
@@vf1923 Ehhh... He wasn't trying to win any prizes with that Pinocchio stuff. It's more like he was doing what he was paid to do, which was to teach Jungian analysis of popular culture/film/lit to classes of mostly bored undergrad arts students, and publish an occasional paper on it. And he met the brief pretty well, in my opinion. He only went off the rails when he got embroiled in identity politics (partly not his fault, partly him seeing an amazing grift) - then he was doomed. Tons of mediocre professors do it. It's a form of brown-nosing and any academic - or indeed, person - of integrity shirks it. Most people just end up getting to be a top dawg at their university, though, not BFFs with Andy Tate.
He does have a PhD in Criminal Psychology, Id say that's pretty academic.. or is it only people you agree with are academic? Its ok to not agree with people, some things on all sides I agree with but I don't agree with everything on one side.. the truth is usually grey and somewhere in the middle, not black and white..
@@UziMusic How to say this?
His expertise in one area does not mean that he is an expert in all other areas, even if he teaches them to undergrads. It does not mean that he can necessarily apply his ideas to the real world. It does not necessarily mean that he has maintained a level of reasoning. It does not mean that his ideas are well-thought-through. Like anyone who has trained hard at something, they might be pretty good at that thing--but quite bad at everything else.
Peterson's issue is twofold: He both comments far beyond his expertise and he's not particularly good about speaking about those things.
A PhD, and even a professorship, is not a get-out-of-logic-free card. If you speak in word salad, it's still word salad.
Unfortunately, like every industry, not everyone who achieves a high level is actually great.
Relative poverty is just another way of saying too much wealth inequality causes crime. Because people see there is plenty in the world, but it is not shared properly.
It's so frustrating to know I was raised to think crime is always a personal moral failing. If you look at crime statistics and poverty statistics all over the world, the overlap is too strong to ignore. The area I grew up in had low crime when there were three factories and high crime now that there are none. Why did people who didn't commit crime before suddenly start choosing the wrong thing by the hundreds? Spontaneous mass personal moral failings? Nonsense.
I would say I have a pretty different worldview from Peterson in that even if he were correct that it's relative poverty, not poverty itself, that causes crime, crimes committed out of frustration from that level of inequality, even if they're not life-or-death desperate, are as justified as a starving person stealing a loaf of bread if the ladder to financial success is not the same for everyone. Working hard for yeras just to drive a beater around while someone who works maybe just as hard, but probably less so and for less time, is driving a new Mercedes, while not necessarily crime-worthy against the Mercedes driver, should be enough of a breaking point for someone to take some kind of action to make a change. Statistically though, the Mercedes driver is more likely to become someone's target, even if their justified hostility is misdirected.
@@patstevenswhohatesbuttermi5861 Unfortunately the majority of victims of crimes are also poor. ItIn many cases it’s the strong who prey on the weak, even if it was economic issues that pushed them to commit a crime in the first place.
@@mikeswierczek then you are ignoring other inconvenient statistics to fit your beliefs. which people are you talking about?
As someone who's realised that a HUGE source of my depression is partially just... living in the UK at this moment in time, your videos and diligence in breaking down these issues are so validating, and hearing your honesty about your journey makes me have huge respect for you, and even dare I say it, a teeny bit of hope. Keep doing what you're doing bro ❤🤗
“Realized” learn proper English
“Realized” learn proper English
Really, are you really that weak, that low and brainless, yes it is depressing, and is going to be far worse if you don't take action against those who make your life worse and worse, against that poor pathetic clown named Keir Starmer and the rest of his rotten party which is at best a terrible political infection, but instead of doing that no, let's just watch UA-cam video made by an idiot with a stupid message, way to go man, I give you a ten for being a loser.
You are weak
Yeah, imagine living in a small hat created dystopia, being flooded by people that aren't you is depressing, what a shocker. I know, the answer is to follow the beliefs of the people making my life terrible, that will fix it.
Happy to have you on the team, mate.
Dude - you’re awesome. The truest mark of intelligence, in my mind, is the ability to change one’s deeply held beliefs when presented with new information.
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Deeply held beliefs huh? You do realize that the alt-right are American ethno-nationalists don't you? American. Not English. None of the people mentioned in this video are even tangentially linked to the alt-right. This entire video is based on complete ignorance of what the alt-right is. Jimmy heard it being used as a buzzword and assumed it meant anybody who was right wing or nationalist. People he mentions like Jordan Peterson or Tommy are fundamentally against what the alt-right believes. Particularly about Israel and its inhabitants.
He likely never changed his beliefs and was actually never right-wing, considering that he does not know a lot of things
@@jackthehat1093 Can you elaborate on the Israel situation?
@@user-nw1qb6jd9o Yeah for example the alt-right are proudly anti-semitic. Tommy and Jordan Peterson openly support Israel and Ben Shapiro is Jewish.
I stumbled on this video randomly, and did not regret it at any point. I have to say, as a Ukrainian, I am amazed and pleased to hear there are people like you who understand us and our situation. We are lucky to have you. Wish you all the best in life!
Salva Ukraine 🇺🇦
You deserve to be in the situation you are in because you elected a "clown" as your president
I don't feel bad for Ukraine at all
@@TheebX92you obviously have no clue about the history of Putin's Russia and how he's trying to rebuild the USSR. Because he used the same tactics every single time. No, it's not the fault of the countries who were attacked. Or you're just a Russian troll.
@@TheebX92 I hope your echo chamber bubble pops.
@@TheebX92 Clearly, oh brainwashed one, you learned NOTHING from this video. NOTHING. And the reason for that is because YOU DON'T WANT TO. You DON'T WANT TO KNOW what the actual FACTS are. You don't know their history, and you don't know history, PERIOD. ALL you "know" is a bunch of rightwing talking points and cliches that have no basis in a factual reality. And most alarming of all, you lack the cognitive capacity to be to even know that you lack the cognitive capacity to engage in critical thinking.
The most revolutionary thing you can do is to change your mind. I absolutely agree with your conclusions. This video should be seen by everyone
Then the uncommitted are the legendary rebels, revolting with their indecisiveness, one could only hope to be so unsure of anything, being so revolutionary as to always change their mind on everything, believing in nothing and falling for anything. Vive la révolution eh?
What a phenomenal video. Genuinely inspiring to you challenge yourself and leave any ego at the door
Full respect to u lad. You looked at the evidence, did your own research and came to a conclusion. How it should be.
Still got a thumbdrive of that 9/11 speech?
Finally , a fellow traveller.
CALLUM!!!
Nice to see personal heroes in the wild!
@@Britannica1 CALLUM!! (have fun w/ the Belarus vid :D)
Good luck with the Belarus vid :D
genuinely impressed by your journey. honestly gives me hope for friends i've seen fall down that hole who've yet to emerge out the other side
I was also someone getting pulled into the alt-right direction. I managed to scampter out before being sucked down the drain completely. For me, it was a very simple tale really. Now I've not exactly had much luck in life, and have a lot of traumatic experiences I am working through. No shortage of violence endured too. On top of that, chronic health problems and constant pain due to that. Culminated in my health decling with it being nearly fatal leaving me to crawl out of the pit by myself. And because I had made the mistake of remaining quiet about some of the worse of what I have endured, this blew the barrel fermenting inside my soul open. At my lowest, when the system and healthcare utterly failed me, when I was being kicked around by bureucracy and trying to adjust to my new state of living with constant pain and fatigue, of course the alt-right snuck in to capitalise on it.
This took the form of just a person met online. When pain, fatigue and terror are the norm of a day, company is wanted. And the completely justified anger I had at my own mistreatment and burecuratic stonewalling was ample ground for this person to drip the usual alt-right venom into my ear. It was taking root too with grifters and outrage mongers being used to cultivate it. I really only got out by after months of pounding my head against what felt like a wall breaking through and managing to get at least some help. I remember thinking how good it felt to be able to clearly think without alt-right outrage venom clouding my head for the first time in months. Blocking and getting rid of any messages I sent to this person was a relief. Especially as they were pretty troubled themself too, and did partake in abusive behaviour during "fits" if we can call them that. Not helping, because the point was never for anything to be fixed. Just joining in destructive anger and rage at all the wrong things as aimed by the venomous rhetoric. And it was not some trained recruiter, but a lone-wolf type actor. Who had already stepped their toes into behaving with hostility in real life instead of just talking about it.
You are a strong person. ❤
Hoping life is getting better for you. Life is hard, and there’s often a lack of support and resources to deal with complicated health issues. It feels like you have to be your own rescuer, but you’re already struggling and tired. I just wanted to say I heard and understood what you said ❤
Worth the read, much love.
The honesty is so appreciated. First time I've even heard of you but seeing the mindset is incredible
One thing i find scary, is that the more i consume media with the target demographic typically being male, the more alt right media i get recommended in my algorithms. Most specifically gaming content or male groups of youtubers like beta squad. When those things don’t have anything to do with politics
It happens like clockwork, every male interest algorithm leads here
I noticed this a few years ago already. I need only spend a few hours watching nerd or nerdy alligned content (which gaming falls within), and the algorithm starts trying to insidiously feed me alt-right dribble from charlatans or outrage mongers. It's absolutely baffling and bonkers. No matter how many times I check "do not recommend this to me" it still keeps happening. That's how contaminated this kind of media content is on youtube. And how far the reach of the far-right/alt-right is. Nobody needs to go looking for it. It is offered on a silver plater by the algormith to specifically young men. And the impact is pretty shocking, if you look at how radicalized many nerds have become.
I constantly get recomended anti-woke stuff and right wing indignation porn even though i click not interested i keeps happening all the time.
I’ve always wondered why, even though I consume a lot of media *about* right wing people and gaming content, I rarely get actual right wing content pushed to me. You’ve made me realise it’s because the gaming content I watch is aimed more at a definite mix of people or women specifically.
@jaybee4118 yeah i notice it fluctuates with me depending on the game im playing at the time. I re picked up LoL again not long ago because i found a group of people to play with so watched more lol content and unsurprisingly the right wing content picked up again, opposed to when im obsessed with a certain city building game or RPG game. But its also like, i went on a sunny v2 video watching spree a while ago and my YT recommended after that was at an all time low, where as it doesn’t happen with other ‘commentary’ channels
This is my first time watching one of your videos - never came across your channel before. I believe I have had a similar transition to you, but in the opposite direction. In 2019, I was really into Andrew Yang's bid for presidency. I thought that UBI was the answer to help society. Obviously he didn't become president, so after that I kind of stepped away from politics and didn't give it any more thought. I was in college at this time. It is worth noting that my family has always been on the conservative side. Also worth mentioning here, Elon Musk tweeted 'I like Yang' and Tucker Carlson had him on for an interview and agreed with Yang strongly.
Back when I was supporting Yang, I bought into the climate change ideas. That was really the most important issue to me. Once I stepped away from politics, I turned to other hobbies. Learning about history and swordsmanship was one of those, and in this hobby I came across a great UA-camr who challenged the idea of climate change. I knew that this man was not a bad person, which contradicted my previous thought installed by the likes of Neil deGrasse Tyson that anyone who is skeptical of climate change was just a 'climate denier'.
I also was recommended several UA-cam videos about health content, since I was getting into cooking at the time. One particular channel, Dr Berg, I watched and thought 'I don't really think this could be right, it just seems so controversial, like really how could everyone else be so wrong'. Anyway, I just didn't buy into it and kept on with life. A few months later however, I got recommended his videos again. This time I spent more time thinking about what he was saying and watched more of his content. It made sense, not in some ways I was scared to follow his advice. I began to trust him and starting following his advice. I started eating a keto diet and lo and behold it worked! Before starting to eat healthy, I weighed around 160 to 170 lbs. After a few months of healthy eating though, I weighed only 130 lbs. It is worth noting here that I was never that interested in losing weight, but in eating healthy. I never saw myself as overweight, but looking back at it I probably was somewhat overweight - although not morbidly obese by any means.
I also started listening to Jordan Peterson and liked what he was saying. I didn't go full down the rabbit hole just yet, that would come later. At the time I was listening to him then, I didn't even know he was on the right. Even then I still considered myself to be more on the left.
Fast forward a year or so and I have graduated, and months after that began working in my first job after college. Probably 7 months into that, I began listening even more to Jordan Peterson and started listening to Tucker Carlson (about the time that he started uploading to UA-cam). I really liked what I was hearing from them. Also I began listening to Robert F Kennedy Jr and absolutely agreed with him. I still believe he is correct about the health system. I already believed this prior to encountering RFK JR, from my own health journey. I have personal experience that RFK JR is correct. I also heard him talk on the history of the US and Russia and how NATO betrayed their original promise to Russia. Also, you may never have heard this, but he mentioned how the day before Russia invaded Ukraine, the Biden admin sent Kamala Harris loudly ask Ukraine in front of Russia to join NATO. Russia has explicitly said they do not want Ukraine to join NATO. So when the US provoked Russia yet again, Russia invaded the next day. What do you think was going to happen?
It's worth noting that during the pandemic I bought the media lies about Trump and took the vaccine without question. My family were skeptical and did not take it. Now I wish that I had not taken it.
It seems to me that you've let the pendulum swing too far to the left in some ways. That or you've never looked to deeply at the health system in America and vaccine companies.
You are correct in some ways about the economic situation. As to why people are having less kids, I recommend you watch the latest video by UA-camr Thoughty2 on that subject. There are many factors, and the economic one is important - but also the spiritual realm cannot be ignored. He even says in the video on this subject, that the least developed countries have the most children. The map for a countries development and the map for the highest birthrates of children are almost identical in inverse proportion. In other words, the less developed a country the more children they have.
Once case in particular to look at here is South Korea. They have very high working hours and not the greatest living arrangements. The government has tried to give monetary incentives for people to have children, but the countries birthrate is still well below the replacement rate. Thoughty2 mentioned one thing related to economics that validates it as a factor; that the relative salary to financial gains of a company have drastically dropped.
So the answer is more complicated than just economics or just people not wanting kids. There is nuance. I think you may be right about right wing content too often misrepresenting the left by showing only the most extreme leftists, but that is a problem of the Internet in general. One think I very much disagree with you on though is Jordan Peterson. I've watched many of his videos and have read some of his book "12 rules for life" and recently began reading "We Who Wrestle with God". He is absolutely correct about a lot of things. As he's described, if you start to aim upwards you can move up at an exponential rate, but that same rate holds true too if you aim down. He derives great wisdom from the Bible, contrasting the spirit of Cain with the spirit of Job. He has a great quote too: (paraphrasing) imagine you're walking in the woods and you come across a fence. Conservatives will say let's leave it alone, we don't know why it was built, but liberals will say no let's tear it down. They may well find out that that fence was there for a very good reason indeed.
So in summary, I have transitioned from left leaning ideas to right leaning ideas, but there is nuance to be had on both sides.
This is one of the best things I've watched this year - well done, from Canada. We need more people going through a similar process of self challenge, critical thinking, and self- educating based on the actual facts.
He said Joe Rogan is Alt Right 😂
Remember when tate was massive i would only see the supportive shit but my mum would see all the hate towards woman, the fact i supported him at some point is terrifying to me now
Damn. Thank God you came around.
I never saw any hate towards Women in Tate but he appeared too "macho arrogant" to me when he pretty much compared anyone with himself.
A true chad does not push others down, they elevate other people.
Especially without insulting them or making fun of them even once. Which is pretty difficult. It is difficult to be polite all the time.
But when I see someone not even make this attempt, not even a single time, then I know they are just narcicists and narcicism always goes hand in hand with contempt for others.
I never supported him but didn’t see much wrong with him until a year later . I realised the toxic masculinity he sold to young boys , the materialistic lifestyle and plain misogyny. Hearing about him being a pimp and how he treats his baby mamas has really made me dislike that man.
lmao "hate towards women", bitch, are you retarded?
This went both ways for me and a family member.
He'd only seen the motivational stuff and for some reason I was seeing any of that but hearing more of his "women owe you", "tell your woman what to do" stuff.
Family member and myself were talking about this and he was shocked about the stuff I'd heard'/seen and I was surprised by the motivational stuff.
I guess there are maybe two reasons for this. Either tate started with one message and moved on to the other and the internet just mixes it all up in to one big lump so you never know what came first. Or he has two types of message and the algorithm (of the platform you're on) just delivers to you the one that is closest to the stuff you watch.
I was getting the more negative stuff as Tate's more negative stuff had been going around my kids class (and I was looking into it to see what it was about) and said family member was in to personal improvement.
I’m 40, I grew up listening to rush limbaugh every day of my childhood, so yeah when I was in high school I was writing reports on how gay marriage should be illegal wrapped in good for society tropes. My shift occurred after I moved to California for work after the 2008 crisis. I couldn’t find any good radio stations and ended up just listening to a lot of NPR. At first I disagreed with pretty much everything I heard, but they always had a balanced approach often with people on both sides of the issues.
Ultimately NPR would report on something I would disagree on, but would have an actual expert in that field talk about it, and I would take bits and pieces of that overtime.
I’m glad I didn’t have to deal with the current media landscape, I can’t imagine where I would be if the alt right was around 12 years earlier, I’m certain I would have fallen right into it.
Alex Jones and Conspiracy Theories weren't around 12 years ago? idk what those things were like back then though.
@ hey may have been around, but he was really on the fringe back then. Just shows how far the Republican Party has drifted.
Such a shame Bill Clinton repealed the Fairness Doctrine - it made characters such as Limbaugh possible and drastically reduced the opportunities to hear fair and balanced 'non-partisan' reporting. It made journeys such as yours much, much rarer. Plus It's directly responsible for the mess the US is in with regards to the right wing disinformation machine that dominates all US media right now. Bad move, Bill.
@@ZachX888 He was, but he was way less crazy back then. Don’t know if it was drugs or chasing money or actual true belief that deranged him over time. He was never fully sane, but used to at least make valid points at times. I know it was he who changed & not just me, because Limbaugh was always trash, and Glenn Beck. They were always hate-fueled liars, but it seemed like Jones used to actually try to understand the world, even if he was misguided.
this kind of thing keeps getting repeated here, that you grew up all conservative and were delivered by the holy left. there are huge portions of us who grew up listening to NPR with their parents for hours a day in the car, that little jingle very nostalgic. Then things started getting wonky in 2016. By 2020, there was no objectivity at all. what do you mean you don't have to deal with the current landscape? how are you not feeling the disgusting nature of things? how much money do you make a year in California to be ok with this?
Fantastic video mate, you've very quickly become my favourite youtuber
This kind of honest, personal and balanced reflection is exactly what we need. I've always found the 'culture wars'-style name calling and misrepresentation, tribalism such an obstacle to meaningful dialogue. If we're ever going to get anywhere as a society it is going to be by finding what we have in common in good faith, rather than being 'anti' or falling into 'us and them'. We all need to have a willingness to admit when we've been wrong or mistaken and not blame each other for being influenced by powerful others with ulterior motives. Cheers for this Jimmy.
Culture war is literally just something the elite invented to hide the fact that they make up a bogeyman out of a random minority group everytime the economy goes bad or they dont get what they want in terms of economical or social politics. It makes it seem like a continuous conflict, but its just conservative pundits going "LOOK AT THE UFOS/IMMIGRANTS/QUEERS THEY ARE DESTROYING OUR WAY OF LIFE!!!!" as Jimmy touches on.
I grew up a fiscal conservative in the United States. In 2004 my mom brought me into the voting booth when she voted for bush a second time, my dad had Rush Limbaugh on the radio every day. My parents voted red every single election without exception, they were never hyper-political they never did their own research definitely never read any papers, they just repeated the right wing talking points. They voted the way the man on the radio told them to, they never really thought about it that hard. On the other hand, I went off to school. This is now Obama era, politics didn't come up that often, things weren't as bad as they are now. But I remember being flummoxed when a worried friend of mine asked if Obama was still president after the 2012 election. I knew I was supposed to be hoping for Romney, I didn't really say anything. I couldn't articulate my position because I hadn't really been thinking about it that hard either. I had the same foot in mouth reaction in 2014 when a professor confided in me how she was glad Obama care had passed even though she herself had healthcare now and no longer needed it. I knew I was supposed to hate Obama care though I couldn't articulate why. But as I learned and grew the more I staeted to question things. My school was never political but above all they taught me how to learn. Need a new skill for this project? Go on UA-cam and learn it we'll expect it done next week, the professor isn't going to teach you. The thing is, that is the most valuable skill you can have, the sooner you learn to question and deduce answers on your own the sooner you realize you've been had.
By 2016 the conversion was complete and I voted for Hillary. Then Trump's presidency solidified my position, especially his handling of the the pandemic. I live in NYC where they had to rent refrigerator trucks for the bodies. The right has only gotten worse since then and the more you learn the more obvious it is. There's a reason educated voted always vote against Trump, it's harder to lie to us. Now I fear I'm witnessing the same fascist precursors that were in 1930's Germany. I just got into an argument with my mom last night. She's voted Trump again, I told her because of the election we're not having kids and if it gets bad enough we may move to Canada. I lost my shit and gave her and itemized list of all the way Trump is going to fuck us over. She had the same foot in mouth reaction that's all too familiar to me.
We don't talk nearly enough of the massive impact Rush Limbaugh has had on the politics of the average American. At least he's burning in hell now
OK, I grew up with Rush Limbaugh as well. Parents blindly supported every Republican candidate, mainly because of abortion. I did too. But then the cracks in their principles started to appear. Crony capitalism. Pandering to whomever donated millions. The Iraq war. Straight up lying and misdirecting about the American medical system. Commentators flip flopping for quick political wins. Gerrymandering. Saying COVID was no more dangerous than a cold. The prison industrial complex.
But then I looked at the Democrats. The same huge corporate donors. Compelled speech. Politicians and leftist celebrities using the same tax avoidance strategies as the rich. Cherry picking only the worst possible predictions from climate models. Suppressing studies about gender reassignment. Doubling down on outdated COVID policies instead of admitting that scientific knowledge of the virus was rapidly evolving. Being way too soft on violent offenders.
Why would I support either party? Instead, I vote for certain centrists and Libertarians. Its not a matter of politics. Its a matter of principles and morality.
Thank you, i really needed to read that. All the best to you guys
This is the way. Sometimes we have to go through the darkness to find the light again. I believe this presidency will educate many people who weren't paying attention. When they see their children suffer. I hope for the best for you.
Keep reading and learning.
Most people become more conservative as they age, not because they "don't get it" or don't want to change, but because they learn, see the impacts of certain choices, and begin to recognize patterns.
The challenging thing about the road to conservatism is that it takes time to see the forest for the trees. Liberal ideals seem obvious when getting into politics, but like any vice, it is good at first until it's not, and then there are regrets.
For context, I also grew up in a conservative household, became liberal in a similar way, and returned to conservativism after trying to understand how anyone could believe the right wing. The more I dug into specific policy decisions, historical precident, the research that underpins political beliefs, and the academic quality of that research, the more apparent it became that the left promotes a lot of surface level feel-good junk policy.
As an academic yourself, I'd encourage you to dig into the meat of the research you are reviewing, understanding the methodology used, and asking yourself: 1. if it is sufficiently rigorous, 2. if the conclusions align with the results, and 3. if the policy that references said research aligns with the findings. We are living in an age with lots of low quality research funded by biased actors looking to reinforce any given stance imaginable.
Its so refreshing hearing someone go this journey and sharing it. My home town is an ex mining town and we have a reform mp... Who is absolutely radicalising my loved ones.
We had the most bnp members when I was growing up and if you dont know any better or see much outside of where youve grown up or others views your firmly stuck.
Thankfully I had really smart people who helped me see the light when I was around 16 and those who havnt rubbed shoulders with the far right dont have any idea how difficult it is to do a U-turn.
Good video and well done 👍
ah 30p Lee is it?
so you’re saying you discovered you were gay and that now is the blinding thing that controls you?
@@gabbromancer oh how did you guess 😂 yes it is 30p Lee. Iv herd from people how much of a bully he is/has been in real life situations.
Bloody racists💀😂
Great video, really interesting what helped you change your perspective, thanks for sharing
Id never heard of your channel before. This hit really hard. I live in the US and had this realization not long after January 6th 2020. I appreciate you putting so many of my thoughts over the past few years into words. I hope enough of us were able to do this before the election tonight.
Jimmy, I watched you since I started living in the UK, as a Ukrainian refugee here, I didn't know you had a Ukrainian wife, I just thought you had interesting insightful videos.
Thank you for your work and thank you for your honesty and for supporting us.
Much Love
I find it strange that we welcome the Ukrainen refugees w open arms yet the “brown” refugees are bad, idk it jus seems weird, curious but do you get a lot of hate like the boat immigrants get, I’m jus really curious as i always wondered
Also I didn’t mean for this to sound bitchy, but
Why did you abandon your blood and soil?
@@smugfrogman4791 Why are you such a dik ?
@@smugfrogman4791 some people are scared of fighting in wars or dying to bombs mate, hope that helps 👍👍
Socials are trying to make me hate women, I think it's even more targeted to people who spend a lot of time online or playing videogames. Luckly for me I have a sister which I love so much I don't believe I could ever hate women
I'm trying to stop engaging with these videos cause it causes people to have warped views of others
social media is an alt right breeding ground, I always see on facebook some shitty soyjack with the "wrong" opinion and some chad with the "right opinion" picture and it's just modern propaganda trying to flip you to their side using some lame reactionary argument. You're smart for seeing it for what it is bro!
No. No one can “make you hate women”. That’s a choice you make yourself. In the same way that memes don’t turn people “fAR RiGhT”.
As a great man once said, "How can I hate women, my mums one"
@@Maj-SHIPWRECKED What we consume influences our thoughts. It's nice to think we can choose what we think. But, we often just form our views based on what we consume in the media and conversations with other people.
Late to catch up with this- but really appreciate the way you shared your journey. Critical thinking is so important, but seems to be the hardest thing for people to learn.