The current problem with Twitch and UA-cams atmosphere is that it enables innocent people like Fruit of Gray to harm himself by playing Peggle for 4 hours straight
Sometimes i just want to give Mr. Gray-fruit a big ol hug, wish i had time in the day to catch him live. Content is always good and humour is always real, not just shock comedy over and over like some streamers. This man ticks so many boxes, like hes a weeb, but not overbearingly so, AND now i find out he is an asmr expert, like whom ever is with my man grey is so lucky, and you KNOW he be packing heat since he never mentions his wiener.
I think Quidditch makes more sense if it were played in a series. Like each match was of multiple games and your score was totaled up at the end. They also mention the importance of points in one of the books, when the team is arguing about whether they have a line to the cup based on who wins the next game between Ravenclaw and Slytherin or whatever. In the end though, it comes from a middle aged woman who doesn't know anything about sports trying to write youthful male characters who are on a sports team
To elaborate on the "Golden Snitch is basically Insta-win" point our Glorious Fruit Overlord makes in this one, I looked up the rules of Quidditch to see just how bad it gets. A single goal with the Quaffle is worth 10 points. Catching the Snitch is worth 150 points. Now that doesn't seem all that bad, even though it requires the team that failed to catch the snitch to have made at least 16 goals MORE than the ones who got the snitch. The real problem stems from how the game has to end. Either both team captains agree to end the game, or (the more likely ending) one of the teams catches the Snitch. The game doesn't have a set ending, it could go on for MONTHS (The highest recorded amount of time for a Quidditch game was 6 months, to be precise, and the Snitch wasn't even caught in that game). So not only do the team that doesn't catch the Snitch have to score 16 more goals than the ones that did catch the darn thing, they have to do it before the Snitch is caught in the first place. AND they have to make sure the enemy doesn't catch up through scoring their own goals. It's really, REALLY difficult for a team that doesn't catch the Snitch to win. TL;DR, the Golden Snitch is worth enough points that a team needs to get a fair amount of goals AHEAD in order to win without catching the Snitch.
I've always had that problem with Harry Potter. When I first read the books and later watched the movies, it always just felt like a genuinely terrible game since the thing that ends the game gives the successful team such a huge boon. So glad it's not a real sport, because it would get real boring to watch after the whole magic brooms thing got old.
Another funny thing is that Gray fruit, having never played the game, was closer to hitting on the ironic/satirical nature of the story and lore behind it than his chat who apparently played it were 🤦♂️
I heard you say "take out all my aggressions against these peggle masters" 3 hours ago in the vid and it still feels like a sentence that makes me question my existence
Chat is really horrible at explaining Warhammer 40k, there's a story but it follows no singular protagonist. The closest thing to a protagonist it gets is the Emperor because he was central to the galaxy getting to where it is, but he's "dead" now so he's not really focused on anymore, and things just kind of happen. In every single game you basically are either controlling a group of marines/orcs/eldar/chaos marines/anything else at all, and rarely a single character, and it's basically different every game. I'd argue the Ultramarines are as CLOSE to a protagonist as we have at this point, since they basically are unbeatable plot armor maniacs, but they aren't really focused on at all, nobody is, there's rarely ever any internal dialogue or narration, things just happen and you either watch it happen or just indirectly cause the events. Unless you're playing the board game, then the protagonist is you, I guess, not really. I'd argue there's no protagonist in the actual Yugioh card game that you play, same with just about any multiplayer thing, so unless a protagonist is a subjective experience, and the protagonist is just who you want it to be, nobody is a protagonist in 40k lore. TL;DR: Warhammer has no protagonist because it's simply a telling of history, the closest to protagonists being the non-chaos-corrupted human race itself.
The Fruit is also bad at explaining protagonists, because he forgot to mention that protagonists can vary between installments. For example, Luke Skywalker isn't the protagonist of Star Wars. He's the protagonist of the first trilogy. Anakin is the protagonist in the second, Rey in the third, Han in Solo, etc. etc. So for Warhammer, for example, Vermintide has 4 protagonists, but they aren't the protagonists of Warhammer as a whole. This is a VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT.
For people who hate asmr as much as I do, it ends at 1:00:56 Also, brb ends at 2:27:10 Also again, did you watch the fantano court of the crimson king album review gray? You're bringing up a lot of the things he said about it
There are characters in Warhammer 40k but none of them are the main character. There are characters that show up consistently but none of them are the protagonist. There is no sole focus on like one or two guys. It's about a wide range of characters, but mainly it focuses on the various factions as a whole rather than singular leading characters. What I mean is that there is no set protagonist, the narrative is always shifting to the viewpoints of hundreds of different individuals and factions of people.
I know it was joke but still it's hilarious "Scammers are the scum of the earth they have no moral compass, unlike murderers who, I gotta admit, have real passion in their work"
An event can have a protag and antag, but it is not a story. A battle is not a story it is an event. A story is a series of events that form a cohearent plot with a Exposition, Rising action, Climax, Falling action, and Resolution A battle is not a story but an event within it. A game where you simply battle with static characters who do nothing but fight is not a story. Moving a pawn is chess is not a story but merely an event. Saying moving a pawn is a story is like saying Me fighting a bokoblin is a story, it isn't a story, it's just an event within a story. Tl;Dr: Event =/= story Many events with a plot = Story
You've mentioned Pink Floyd (made a Dogs reference and it made my day when I saw it), King Crimson (Robert Fripp as enigmatic as he is really is an otherworldly guitarist), R.E.M. (basically all the rock references), JoJo, and ASMR (even having a viewer mention my favourite ASMRtist in Ephemeral Rift) in the streams I've seen of yours. Are you my American doppelganger? ... Or am I your Australian doppelganger... ... Or have I made this comment too long... ... Either way, this reminds me I need to follow you on Twitch. Legit love these streams and you're definitely one of my favourite UA-cam/Twitch streamers. 💙
Only a heretic would say that warhammer has no story. Like, seriously. There's a reason why the empire of man is a shitty place to live. There's a reason why the tau ain't much better. There's so much story to it.
Honestly gray complaining/insulting warhammer just kinda hurt. But in short there isn’t a protagonist because you follow hundreds of different characters from a half dozen or more different races and factions. The protagonists from one book or game can just as easily be the antagonists in the next dozen books. Sure sometimes you get one that’s predominantly portrayed as protagonists but that’s not the case for a lotta things. Honestly the tone of the talk about it just kinda felt a little insulting for liking 40k just because you didn’t care to listen to what people were trying to say you you just wanted to keep your interpretation. Like I get it wasn’t malicious but you don’t seem to understand it
Yeah also he was nearly spot on with the idea it's an "ironic game" since there is a bit of satirical bitterness to much of the lore, from the bit I understand.
so that little mermaid remake came out and. it happened, havent seen it but heard a song clearly written by lin manuel miranda about swamps or something that was awful sooo
I once read a description of the history of Quidditch, utterly non-official. In the beginning, it was Wizard soccer/football. The entire game was the quaffle. Just get it into the hoop, score points, get more goals than the other guys before the timer says stop. Then they added bludgers because top players were just Michael Jordaning too hard and needed something to distract them. Then, the king's idiot son wanted to play. He sucked. Really, really badly. So badly that the team that was forced to host him enchanted an egg to be extra shiny and fly quickly, and they told the idiot to catch it. That was his job and it was very important. So important that if he caught it, they won. Of course, there was no such rule. That would be terrible. The team just wanted to be down a man more than they wanted to deal with the idiot. One day, idiot caught the egg. He was so proud. But the game didn't end, and his team didn't win. Idiot very mad. So Royal Daddy said the game did end, and the team did win. He said it so hard that it became an actual rule, and it stayed a rule long enough that everyone just got used to the new 'game' and decided it was still the best wizard sport since there is literally zero competition that didn't involve getting eaten occasionally. The moral of the story is that the game is made into a real game immediately by removing the idiot ball and installing a fricking timer. The real justification for the idiot ball is just that it is also the protagonist ball. How do we make literally every game revolve exclusively around a direct personal contest between Protagonist and BadBoy, while still getting to have motivational speeches and football captain vibes and a cheering team that we never need to pay attention to? Idiot ball. In short, it is such a painfully dumb idea that is so very easy to fix that it takes incest kings and their jawless sons to make it in any way plausible.
Pyramid is absolutely the worst. It's objectively worse than the normal bucket on a lot of levels, since it doesn't move as far into the corners and effectively makes it harder or impossible to get a bucket free ball if it falls down anywhere on the side. Case and point: the pyramid level from the part 1 of this series of VODs, which forces you to have the pyramid all the time for the theme/challenge (tbf, the pyramid actually does make it harder and thus more of a challenge. since that level's design puts the ball falling down the sides very often 🤦♂️). I've never played peggle. I've watched far too much greyfruit.
I'm not one for ASMR as it activates some tinnitus that's deeply embedded and rarely occurs, so needless to say sharp ringing bells didn't help during the BRB when I was half asleep. But awakening to Peggle is worth it.
Who's the protagonist of Warhammer 40k is like asking who's the protagonist of ww1. Every soldier has his own story and just like the soldiers in the trenches wrote about their experience and it's usually a great story, an imperial guardsman on some random frontier could do the same and it would be a good story. But there's billions of them and what story you get depends on where you look and just like a real war most characters only have one adventure because most people don't want to go through a meat grinder again. But you wouldn't call X soldiers' experiences "the story of ww1,, And since it's a strategy game most of the time it's like asking what's the story of an age of empires multiplayer battle. Fruit man is right, every soldier has a story but you wouldn't ask anyone what's age of empires story is.
Ah yeah grayfruit don't worry about that charger trying to tell you theres no story or plot to Warhammer. There is, it's just incredibly muddied and difficult to understand because you need to read or know A LOT to begin to understand it
It's infuriating that people steal others' original and hard work to make a penny.. it's like.. 1 or 2 people might want that on a shirt.. Jesus Christ.. ripping off will only get you so far.. then it'll plunge you deeper into shit lol
That Paul Newman bit may be my fav stream intro of all time now
That had me rolling, had to rewatch several times just now lmfao
I still come back to it every once in a while
The current problem with Twitch and UA-cams atmosphere is that it enables innocent people like Fruit of Gray to harm himself by playing Peggle for 4 hours straight
Ah but you've missed a crucial counterargument
*it's funni*
Sometimes i just want to give Mr. Gray-fruit a big ol hug, wish i had time in the day to catch him live. Content is always good and humour is always real, not just shock comedy over and over like some streamers. This man ticks so many boxes, like hes a weeb, but not overbearingly so, AND now i find out he is an asmr expert, like whom ever is with my man grey is so lucky, and you KNOW he be packing heat since he never mentions his wiener.
I think Quidditch makes more sense if it were played in a series. Like each match was of multiple games and your score was totaled up at the end. They also mention the importance of points in one of the books, when the team is arguing about whether they have a line to the cup based on who wins the next game between Ravenclaw and Slytherin or whatever. In the end though, it comes from a middle aged woman who doesn't know anything about sports trying to write youthful male characters who are on a sports team
To elaborate on the "Golden Snitch is basically Insta-win" point our Glorious Fruit Overlord makes in this one, I looked up the rules of Quidditch to see just how bad it gets.
A single goal with the Quaffle is worth 10 points.
Catching the Snitch is worth 150 points.
Now that doesn't seem all that bad, even though it requires the team that failed to catch the snitch to have made at least 16 goals MORE than the ones who got the snitch.
The real problem stems from how the game has to end. Either both team captains agree to end the game, or (the more likely ending) one of the teams catches the Snitch. The game doesn't have a set ending, it could go on for MONTHS (The highest recorded amount of time for a Quidditch game was 6 months, to be precise, and the Snitch wasn't even caught in that game).
So not only do the team that doesn't catch the Snitch have to score 16 more goals than the ones that did catch the darn thing, they have to do it before the Snitch is caught in the first place. AND they have to make sure the enemy doesn't catch up through scoring their own goals. It's really, REALLY difficult for a team that doesn't catch the Snitch to win.
TL;DR, the Golden Snitch is worth enough points that a team needs to get a fair amount of goals AHEAD in order to win without catching the Snitch.
I've always had that problem with Harry Potter. When I first read the books and later watched the movies, it always just felt like a genuinely terrible game since the thing that ends the game gives the successful team such a huge boon. So glad it's not a real sport, because it would get real boring to watch after the whole magic brooms thing got old.
God, as a writer, you arguing with chat that Warhammer's story has a protagonist by virtue of being a story...
*Chef's kiss*
Perfect.
Another funny thing is that Gray fruit, having never played the game, was closer to hitting on the ironic/satirical nature of the story and lore behind it than his chat who apparently played it were 🤦♂️
1:42:42 that's a hell of a nightvale deepcut
Okay, this is an even better opening than terry crews and it better make it into scraps 3
This man understands stream intros better than any other streamer in existence
I heard you say "take out all my aggressions against these peggle masters" 3 hours ago in the vid and it still feels like a sentence that makes me question my existence
This is the best ending of any grayfruit video so far.
Better than the end of Peggle Nights Challenges Part 1 VOD?
Chat is really horrible at explaining Warhammer 40k, there's a story but it follows no singular protagonist. The closest thing to a protagonist it gets is the Emperor because he was central to the galaxy getting to where it is, but he's "dead" now so he's not really focused on anymore, and things just kind of happen. In every single game you basically are either controlling a group of marines/orcs/eldar/chaos marines/anything else at all, and rarely a single character, and it's basically different every game. I'd argue the Ultramarines are as CLOSE to a protagonist as we have at this point, since they basically are unbeatable plot armor maniacs, but they aren't really focused on at all, nobody is, there's rarely ever any internal dialogue or narration, things just happen and you either watch it happen or just indirectly cause the events. Unless you're playing the board game, then the protagonist is you, I guess, not really. I'd argue there's no protagonist in the actual Yugioh card game that you play, same with just about any multiplayer thing, so unless a protagonist is a subjective experience, and the protagonist is just who you want it to be, nobody is a protagonist in 40k lore.
TL;DR: Warhammer has no protagonist because it's simply a telling of history, the closest to protagonists being the non-chaos-corrupted human race itself.
The Fruit is also bad at explaining protagonists, because he forgot to mention that protagonists can vary between installments. For example, Luke Skywalker isn't the protagonist of Star Wars. He's the protagonist of the first trilogy. Anakin is the protagonist in the second, Rey in the third, Han in Solo, etc. etc. So for Warhammer, for example, Vermintide has 4 protagonists, but they aren't the protagonists of Warhammer as a whole. This is a VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT.
why the fuck did both of you write an essay on warhammer use this for school or something
Ok that sounds fun but how am I supposed to get into that shit
@@ElBach1y probably play one of the games on steam, or just read about the lore on the Lexicanum
Singing bowls along grayfruit screaming about how bad Twitter is while clenching his butt is a cursed combination
4:38 AMAZING SHOT
I genuinely want to see that mario meme but I can't find it.
For people who hate asmr as much as I do, it ends at 1:00:56
Also, brb ends at 2:27:10
Also again, did you watch the fantano court of the crimson king album review gray? You're bringing up a lot of the things he said about it
nope
The entire asmr saga of the ketamine addicted yoda is surely grays cup of tea
This will be my new religion if it's real 🤣
28:53 dude. I’m dead serious when I say that I said “slickens are pimmer”, _right_ before you did.
I spat out my milk laughing
There are characters in Warhammer 40k but none of them are the main character. There are characters that show up consistently but none of them are the protagonist. There is no sole focus on like one or two guys. It's about a wide range of characters, but mainly it focuses on the various factions as a whole rather than singular leading characters.
What I mean is that there is no set protagonist, the narrative is always shifting to the viewpoints of hundreds of different individuals and factions of people.
It's like asking what's the story of ww1 or the story of an age of empires multiplayer battle
Fruit at 2:06
The peggleing starts at 3:00
the pegging
Wait grayfruit like ASMR?
U tryina cop my playlist it's stocked
glad I could supply some art for the stream! (2:21:12 - 2:27:10)
(and also supply a heated rant about twitter)
I know you main the rabbit but in my experience the pumpkin can kick some serious ass in a lot of situations.
Pumpkin can do a lot better than the rabbit but if you get the luck with the rabbit he kicks some mega ass
a strange moment at 10:41 where he hits only orange pegs when trying to do a slide, and hits an extra orange peg right after.
3:25:59 Oh no. IT IS FUNNY NOW.
"If you can't join them, beat them. If you can't beat them... cry." - Esidisi
I'm an enabler!
fell asleep to this stream, the asmr woke me up, and no. it wasnt calming
The BEST stream start!
I know it was joke but still it's hilarious "Scammers are the scum of the earth they have no moral compass, unlike murderers who, I gotta admit, have real passion in their work"
An event can have a protag and antag, but it is not a story. A battle is not a story it is an event.
A story is a series of events that form a cohearent plot with a Exposition, Rising action, Climax, Falling action, and Resolution
A battle is not a story but an event within it.
A game where you simply battle with static characters who do nothing but fight is not a story.
Moving a pawn is chess is not a story but merely an event.
Saying moving a pawn is a story is like saying Me fighting a bokoblin is a story, it isn't a story, it's just an event within a story.
Tl;Dr: Event =/= story
Many events with a plot = Story
Thank you Link
I appreciate the fact that the thumbnail is just a png of an unloaded UA-cam video color
i felt like he was getting more and more insane throughout this
The Paul Newman with yoshi's island final boss music made me Happy
Grayfruit: *getting his hair cut*
Suddenly, im in danger
You've mentioned Pink Floyd (made a Dogs reference and it made my day when I saw it), King Crimson (Robert Fripp as enigmatic as he is really is an otherworldly guitarist), R.E.M. (basically all the rock references), JoJo, and ASMR (even having a viewer mention my favourite ASMRtist in Ephemeral Rift) in the streams I've seen of yours.
Are you my American doppelganger?
...
Or am I your Australian doppelganger...
...
Or have I made this comment too long...
...
Either way, this reminds me I need to follow you on Twitch. Legit love these streams and you're definitely one of my favourite UA-cam/Twitch streamers. 💙
I feel sometimes like I'm his Canadian doppelganger, don't worry
Is the Dogs reference in this video? I’ve been looking for it and can’t find it! Help!
@@connor48880 I believe this is the one, yes. I cant remember where it is in the video though.
No. Found it. It’s in Extreme Peggle
never been more annoyed than by gray fruit brabbling under the sea
Same lmao
That intro is art.
fuck man the paul newman bit fucking killed me i'm glad i'm getting the vods recomended to me even if i just watch at most like 1 hour of it
1:36:40 lol wait until you see 2020 dude. A gender reveal party caused an even bigger fire lmao
what's the song after the yoshi's Island one at the start?
nvm it's the rest of the song
Not gonna lie, the Peggle Nights menu music slaps
We need a greyfruit master class
So I skip forward from the Temple one with Warren and suddenly we’re talking about some weird Greek jokes, what happened?
43:30 dj grayfruit makes an appearance
What song does he hum at 2:51:03 it sounds familiar
Sounds like Come On Eileen
2:47:54 Is that an Air reference?
oh fuck yeah another peggle. Time to not sleep for the next 4 hours
Watching movies on your phone is fine but PLEASE use it horizontally..
this stream is longer than the godfather
Anyone got the link for the asmr at 2:26:44 ?
Only a heretic would say that warhammer has no story.
Like, seriously. There's a reason why the empire of man is a shitty place to live. There's a reason why the tau ain't much better.
There's so much story to it.
lore and story aren't really the same tho
Martinus3000 every single non codex is a story tho, there isn’t 1 story but there is definitely story
What's the song called in the beginning
"warhammer has shit character design" he says while watching fucking Jojo.
3:26:10 apollos gift of prophesy
Honestly gray complaining/insulting warhammer just kinda hurt. But in short there isn’t a protagonist because you follow hundreds of different characters from a half dozen or more different races and factions. The protagonists from one book or game can just as easily be the antagonists in the next dozen books. Sure sometimes you get one that’s predominantly portrayed as protagonists but that’s not the case for a lotta things. Honestly the tone of the talk about it just kinda felt a little insulting for liking 40k just because you didn’t care to listen to what people were trying to say you you just wanted to keep your interpretation. Like I get it wasn’t malicious but you don’t seem to understand it
To be fair tho some of chat was doing a god awful job explaining anything and seemed to just want to hate everything in it.
Yeah also he was nearly spot on with the idea it's an "ironic game" since there is a bit of satirical bitterness to much of the lore, from the bit I understand.
1:36:04 *exaggerated fake smile* "switch to switch"
best intro ever
so that little mermaid remake came out and. it happened, havent seen it but heard a song clearly written by lin manuel miranda about swamps or something that was awful sooo
Asking who the protagonist of Warhammer is is like asking who the protagonist of history is
I once read a description of the history of Quidditch, utterly non-official. In the beginning, it was Wizard soccer/football. The entire game was the quaffle. Just get it into the hoop, score points, get more goals than the other guys before the timer says stop. Then they added bludgers because top players were just Michael Jordaning too hard and needed something to distract them.
Then, the king's idiot son wanted to play. He sucked. Really, really badly. So badly that the team that was forced to host him enchanted an egg to be extra shiny and fly quickly, and they told the idiot to catch it. That was his job and it was very important. So important that if he caught it, they won. Of course, there was no such rule. That would be terrible. The team just wanted to be down a man more than they wanted to deal with the idiot. One day, idiot caught the egg. He was so proud. But the game didn't end, and his team didn't win. Idiot very mad. So Royal Daddy said the game did end, and the team did win. He said it so hard that it became an actual rule, and it stayed a rule long enough that everyone just got used to the new 'game' and decided it was still the best wizard sport since there is literally zero competition that didn't involve getting eaten occasionally.
The moral of the story is that the game is made into a real game immediately by removing the idiot ball and installing a fricking timer. The real justification for the idiot ball is just that it is also the protagonist ball. How do we make literally every game revolve exclusively around a direct personal contest between Protagonist and BadBoy, while still getting to have motivational speeches and football captain vibes and a cheering team that we never need to pay attention to? Idiot ball.
In short, it is such a painfully dumb idea that is so very easy to fix that it takes incest kings and their jawless sons to make it in any way plausible.
Pyramid is absolutely the worst. It's objectively worse than the normal bucket on a lot of levels, since it doesn't move as far into the corners and effectively makes it harder or impossible to get a bucket free ball if it falls down anywhere on the side. Case and point: the pyramid level from the part 1 of this series of VODs, which forces you to have the pyramid all the time for the theme/challenge (tbf, the pyramid actually does make it harder and thus more of a challenge. since that level's design puts the ball falling down the sides very often 🤦♂️). I've never played peggle. I've watched far too much greyfruit.
If you haven't already you should play subnautica
Fuck it, I'm playing warhammer just to see if it has a protagonist, I'll keep you updated
I'm not one for ASMR as it activates some tinnitus that's deeply embedded and rarely occurs, so needless to say sharp ringing bells didn't help during the BRB when I was half asleep.
But awakening to Peggle is worth it.
Who's the protagonist of Warhammer 40k is like asking who's the protagonist of ww1. Every soldier has his own story and just like the soldiers in the trenches wrote about their experience and it's usually a great story, an imperial guardsman on some random frontier could do the same and it would be a good story. But there's billions of them and what story you get depends on where you look and just like a real war most characters only have one adventure because most people don't want to go through a meat grinder again. But you wouldn't call X soldiers' experiences "the story of ww1,,
And since it's a strategy game most of the time it's like asking what's the story of an age of empires multiplayer battle. Fruit man is right, every soldier has a story but you wouldn't ask anyone what's age of empires story is.
eaglefruit
Ah yeah grayfruit don't worry about that charger trying to tell you theres no story or plot to Warhammer. There is, it's just incredibly muddied and difficult to understand because you need to read or know A LOT to begin to understand it
Chatter trying to tell you* my bad
magic bugs bunny op in duels
good ending
3:33:00 worst fanbase? have you heard of BTS?
grayfruit saying he hates warhammer :(
at 2:12:12 the fruit man dies
It's infuriating that people steal others' original and hard work to make a penny.. it's like.. 1 or 2 people might want that on a shirt.. Jesus Christ.. ripping off will only get you so far.. then it'll plunge you deeper into shit lol
This is unhealthy...
I swear this is killing me, and I just watch the guy
EUHHH
Going back in time to watch this sucks cause you're way worse at the game than you are now