I have had to use the SOS button once in the 5 years I have my InReach. Not for me but for another rider. Amazing response and worth every penny I have spent
that’s awesome that you could help someone else. I carry it for the same reason . I might not need it but it could help save a life. thanks for watching and be safe!
I have the Garmin Inreach Messenger, the updated model. FYI, Garmin offers an insurance plan to pay for a rescue crew/helicopter. Read the fine print. Aside from charging both phone and InReach, carry a battery pack to recharge in the wild in case your rescue effort is delayed, you can't run the motor to recharge, or inclement weather shortens the performance of the battery
In 1985 my car threw a rod on 1-95 in Maryland. The roadside emergency button station I walked to didn’t work. 12 hours later a Maryland State Trooper stopped and called a tow truck for me. I had no emergency food or water. AAA paid for the tow. Things are better today. I’m glad you’re okay.
Dang bro, glad you are OK. I've been looking at those trackers recently, I live in BC and getting hurt up in the mountains would suck. Your story has compelled me to pull the trigger.
Thanks! They are so worth it for that one incident. You can also use it in your car, on a boat or even to help someone else in the middle of no where. Stay safe and Thanks for watching!!
I’m out in the wilderness almost every day either hiking, motorcycling, or jeeping and am never without my Garmin! Like you, I sometimes wonder what would happen if I needed it. Glad to hear of your success!
That’s awesome. I wish I could be out more. Having that Garmin is piece of mind. even more so now that I know it works 😀 I thought it was just wasting money until I heard that everyone that goes missing while in the backcountry and dies did not have a way to call sos. it put it all in perspective to get the Garmin. stay safe out there and enjoy every moment!
People anywhere who are in need of assistance should keep in mind that rescuers can usually find your vehicle easier than they can find you.......STRONGLY consider staying with your vehicle.
Just about to press the button on a mini 2… you helped me decide! I’m 70 and returning to dirt riding on a lil TW200 but much of the areas I want to ride in have very sketchy cell service and I want to be able to do just what you did. Thanks! Glad you came out OK keep that rubber side DOWN! ;-)
Thanks! I've had an InReach SE for years. Actually it's a DeLORME, from before Garmin bought them. I have it while exploring the Nevada desert. I've never had to use the SOS button but it is nice being able to send the wife a message that has my exact location when I'm in the middle of nowhere. Glad you're okay.
I had a nearly identical situation a couple weekend ago on the Great Western Trail just outside of Torrey, UT. Foot was trapped and the rear peg was hung up on the inside of my boot. Fortunately I did have service and Wayne County Sherrif’s came out to save my foot and maybe my life. I was only under the bike for about 30 mins but they were pretty scary and eye opening. No injuries but still have some soreness and numbness on my leg where the bike was resting. 2007 R1200 GSA. Glad to hear your story and that you were ok. Plus the info about the Garmin is very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
oh no that’s crazy on a bigger motorcycle. that’s great that you had service and they were able to help. my motorcycle weighs a lot less than yours. I can only imagine how scary that was. Glad to hear you weren’t badly injured. Thanks for sharing and watching the video. I appreciate it.
I rented one of these for a long overlanding trip just in case. Didn't have any issues along the way so i only used it to update family. Thanks for walking through the emergency functions and glad it worked out well for you. That mountain biker is hardcore too
Thank you. I'm glad you didn't have to use yours. it is great for updating. I couldn't believe seeing these mountain bikers out there. they are athletes definitely. Thanks for watching!
I agree with all your observations. I have a ZOLEO and never go anywhere out of cell service without it, whether I’m hiking, in the camper or on the bike. I have a 2019 310GS like you. I’ve never needed to press the SOS and hope I never do but it’s nice having the peace of mind that even though I can in very remote place I can still make contact when needed.
I also have a 2019 G310GS and the Zoleo is my current top-of-the-list satellite navigator to purchase but I need to do a more thorough analysis of all of the costs of ownership.
I’ve only had it a little over two weeks so far and have done about 120km of mostly pavement with some rough gravel and so far I love it. I had bikes when I was young and I’m just getting back into it. I’m a couple years older than you. I have to save the clutch takes some getting used to, it has such a small friction zone. I watched your videos and they helped me decide on this bike. Thanks for that.
@@UltralightMotorcycleCamping In 2021 at least, Zoleo was the best bang for your buck if you wanted to do messaging, especially unlimited messaging. I went Boondocking for 12 weeks across Utah, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Having the ability to send a few text messages to my family to let them know where I was at. Coupled with the safety of the check-in and tracking features you can set up was pretty indispensable for me. And the big red SOS button definitely gives peace of mind. The messaging is very, very slow, do not expect to have much of a conversation, it takes 1-5 minutes to send an individual message. but it really does work absolutely everywhere you have open sky and I didn’t have much trouble with it working in the forest either. if you are not doing long-term, Boondocking, unlimited messaging is probably not necessary. I was staying in places with zero cell reception for at least a week at a time between going into town for fuel, etc. So I wanted to be able to message people. Anyways, hope that helps.
I am a “senior” and not a big person and not as strong as I used to be. I carry an Eastbound Motowinch (light weight, segmented and from Netherlands) strapped on my passenger seat. So far only used it once when the wheel chock on motorcycle trailer did not hold my bike up when I was getting reading to strap it down. But I bought it because I saw videos of someone advertising it and they showed example of being pinned under bike, pulling it out, setting it up and ratcheting the bike up enough to get out from under.
My understanding, from friends who are search and rescue volunteers, is that there is no cost for rescues by the local county agencies. Also, most of the county helicopter rescue guys LIVE for doing real rescues (they fortunately don’t do a lot of them). So if you have one of these devices and you or another person is at risk, hit the button. And if you go into the backcountry and don’t have one of these devices, get one.
Agree , I've been in SAR for over 30 years (different country) but we enjoy real callouts instead of just training so don't hesitate to hit the button if there is a genuine need.
At 60 yo and disabled, I am back on 2's but only on the street. I would have loved adventure riding but chose other things. I have considered doing some long ribbon and slab rides and I have considered carrying one of these as a backup to my cell. Even though I would likely not be out of service, it is possible. I am glad you were uninjured. Stay smooth and keep the ... well I guess, shinier side on top
HI that is admirable of you to still ride. Honestly, I can see carrying one even if you ride just the tarmac. It could help someone else in need as well if you are out of cell service range. Ride safe! Thank you for watching.
I carried a Garmin SPOT Gen 3 for many years, but recently canceled service on it because I quit riding off road. I was partially disabled for the past several years I rode, and realized that I was far more likely to become stranded in the middle of nowhere due to a mechanical breakdown, especially a flat tire. In the AZ desert, flat tires are a way of life. I've had dozens of them. But I realized that it was no longer likely that I would be able fix a flat tube type tire by myself out in the desert. And there is no way I could walk out. My walking distance is limited to about 2 blocks. That's when I gave up and sold my dual sport bikes. My understanding is they typically don't charge for a rescue if you are seriously injured. They are after all paid with taxpayer money. But if you are not injured, and are only stranded because of a mechanical breakdown, it's likely to get VERY expensive. Because you put yourself in that position knowing that you shouldn't have. You mentioned all that texting. What if you are seriously injured, and the best you can do is push the SOS button? Are they still going to show up if you don't respond? Fortunately I never had to find out.
being out in the desert on the wrong day could also be dangerous, rattle snakes, fire ants, not to mention the obvious...heat. I am sorry that you had to give it up. As far as texting, I would imagine that if you hit the sos and didn't move, they would automatically send someone. they can see if the unit is traveling. I read about a guy that triggered his sos on accident. they could see his unit moving so they just called when he stopped. Thanks for watching!
I think that’s a good argument for using a lighter bike so that if that accident happens you can easily get from under the bike and you would still have plenty of power and easier in so many ways?
absolutely correct. I could only imagine if it was a bigger motorcycle what would have happened. There is no unicorn as far as motorcycles, but I love the baby G! Thanks for watching!
thanks for sharing this experience. i always have my inreach on me but was also not sure how it would work. this gives me a bit more peace of mind. i also crashed about 2 weeks ago in a foreihn country and unfortunatly tore my cruciate ligament, but there were people who were able to help. So no need for the inreach. Thanks again and happy offroading
I am glad to share my experience! sorry to hear about your crash. Wishing you a speedy recovery. How were you able to get the moto back and how long did it extend your stay in the country?
@@Sasqmoto after the crash some people helped me lift the bike and I was able to drive to a hotel, next Day a taxi to the hospital and a phone all to a doc in Switzerland. So I booked myself a flight home, stored the bike in the hotel. I will fly back to Sarajevo in 4 weeks to continue the ride.
wow, glad you’re ok and still wanting to ride. Get back on it and enjoy life. Thanks for sharing your experience. Most people don’t get out of the city they live in. That’s admirable. stay safe!
@@Sasqmoto well, in Europe the next broder is usually not that far away, for me it is just 5 minutes to the border between switzerland and germany, so we are used to visit other countries. traveling to other cultures is a lot of fun. But I would love to ride in your areas as well. did visit the nationalparks 20 years ago on a car, but what fun it would be to do it again on a bike.
Wow! Glad you’re ok. That’s a scary situation to be in. I ride alone and have started videoing with a GoPro. I’m on paved roads but outside of the city and I think about what would happen if I took a spill. It wouldn’t be pretty. I mount my GoPro on the handlebars and have it off and hit the record button to record and hit it again to stop recording and it turns off. I could see that happening just like it did to you even though I’m on country roads. That pavement can jump up and trip me up outa nowhere. Excellent video and information. Be safe.
I was riding my TW200 on a weekday in the mountains close to my city. I was going up a fairly gnarly trail, and I had a 4 inch wide trail to miss this huge boulder that was buried. I missed my 4 inch trail and the rear wheel went into the hole at the bottom of the boulder. My torquey little bike instantly went over backwards and landed on my left leg. I was not hurt, but I could not get into a position to lift the bike off my leg. I always ride alone, and I have done so for 40 + years. About 7 years ago I bought an ARC Personal Locater Beacon. That first one aged out after 5 years, and I bought a new one to replace it. I really did not want to call out Search and Rescue just to lift the bike off my leg, but I would have. Fortunately I wore my Carr-Hart slip on mini boots that day. With some effort, I was able to slide my foot out of my boot and get out from under my TW. I did have a deep abrasion on my ankle that left a mark that will be with me for the rest of my life, BUT, I did get out without needing to call S&R. On one of the websites they had a story about an older couple that was driving their Jeep up by Flagstaff AZ. They were 30 miles from the pavement, and got hopelessly stuck. They had a PLB, but they thought that it was only for emergencies. They Husband decided to try to walk out, but after 1 mile, he realized that 30 miles was not doable, so he went back. They activated their PLB and about an hour later S&R made it to them. They started to apologize right away because neither of them were injured. The S&R people then said, "We would much rather come out here and help you folks out than come out for a body recovery." I never have forgotten that!!! By the way, I am 77 years old, and I still ride a dirt bike. Go figure!!
I’m glad you weren’t hurt. That could have been disastrous. the story you tell about that couple is a testament to not worry about what people think. if you feel you need help, call for help! I think pride plays a lot into people’s decisions. but pride has started world wars. It is admirable that you still ride. I hope to as well when I get older. Stay safe and thanks for watching!
If you do anything in the backcountry in the US, you should check the State and see if there is a SAR stamp/card you can get. In Utah, it's called a USARA card. Not only will it help fund search and rescue efforts in the State, but may help you personally avoid some expenses on your end if you need to use those services.
Great information. My wife and I have been talking about it for a while. Think it's time to get one. FYI. My ridingh/hunting kit includes a USB battery charger.
Thanks for the compliment. I always take a battery pack, it is 25000mh, can charge iPad, phones etc. Camping overnight I made sure a plugged them in. It is a great little item, especially if you go hunting, or hiking or even on a road trip. It can come in handy. Stay safe and Thanks for watching!
Glad you're OK. Yeah Ive been out there a few times on my ADV... There was a few sand sections that'd just swallow the GSA , I was on, itd get sketchy really fast.
Thanks, wow you're brave for riding the bigger motorcycle out there. Was it hard to handle going up the mountains and the descent? Thanks for watching!
I carry a Garmin and phone, but I also carry a ratchet jack ( Eastbound) in a bag strapped to the posterior seat. In theory I could, if trapped, dig it out and lift the bike off of my legs. I do worry about dropping my bike. And not being able to lift the bike ( I,m 73 y.o.). A solo hiker “ wanderlust” used a Garmin to evacuate via helicopter. I believe Garmin paid for a significant amount of the $ fee.
the jack would have worked. except I was already carrying a lot 🤣 good on you for continuing to ride. I can only hope to do it when I am your age. stay safe and thanks for watching!
GREAT report. Very useful information. I went solo off road moto camping once, last July, on my G310GS. I dropped the bike as soon as I tried to leave camp but I was off the bike and standing next to it before I knew what happened. My subconscious knew better than to try to save it and be trapped under the bike in remote woods where I'd be found in several months. I didn't have a satellite communicator but texting is reliable at that location. I just went back with a friend a week ago and almost dropped the bike three times on the way to the campsite. I was tired and hot, maybe like you, 50 miles into the White Rim Trail. I definitely need to get a satellite communicator. I need to study the costs. It'd be worth paying more per month if there was no penalty to suspend or pay lower inactive account maintenance costs every month, although I'm riding more in the off months than I expected. I went camping in the Hoosier National Forest in Indiana last December. It was very handy that the friendly mountain biker came by to help rescue you, but you couldn't wait all day for the hope of a rescue, so it's also good that you pressed the SOS button and were able to cancel the rescue. I believe the most dangerous thing I do on my motorcycle is trying to turn my GoPro on and off. The user interface sucks and takes several tries, when I should be giving my full attention to riding. Sometimes, I think I turned off the camera and it stays on until the battery dies 30 minutes later, then it won't turn on again until I stop and change batteries. It's a terrible user interface for an action camera, which is intended for use during strenuous and demanding activities. I'd install the GoPro app on the tablet that I use for a GPS navigator and run the two apps split screen, but using WiFi to control the GoPro eats the tiny battery. I should bite the bullet and buy a DJI Osmo or Insta360 (not the fish eye 360 degree version that needs special video editing software).
I should have just pulled over. I don't think they charge to suspend the service. I use it for roads trips as well. getting hurt would have been a different story. I like you would rather let the motorcycle go than try to save it. that's what the crush bars are for. the insta 360 is not a great camera for motorcycle riding. thanks for watching and be safe out there.
@@Sasqmoto - Insta360 has a newer One RS action camera that isn't the 360 degree version. It's a better version of the GoPro and it's getting good reviews from moto adventurers. However, I just read some reviews. Many of the negative reviews are people thinking they were getting a 360 degree video camera. I'd chalk those up to ignorant consumers. However, there were some negative reviews based on overheating, relatively short battery life, poor durability/reliability, and not working without installing an app and no Linux support (like their 360 degree video editing software).
@@Sasqmoto my first time was on a DR650. Two years ago I rode WRR again on a Honda CB500X with all the Rally Raid goodies. Fantastic bike but a mite heavier than I liked for this road. I strongly recommend running the WRR clockwise- down Shaffer switchbacks, up Mineral switchbacks- so the nastier sections are downhill. For me the most difficult section was Murphy Hogback. In the clockwise direction going down Murphy is much easier than trying to go up it. Hardscrabble Hill was interesting but not too bad; again, clockwise is easier, IMHO.
yes, I went clock wise as well. Murphy's was hard but I think hardscrabble was just as difficult and the descent from hardscrabble was a white knuckle ride in the silt on that steep downhill.
HA, i had a rock bust a hole in my case of my old KLR back in 2010'ish at that very same area as you. I was literally at the junction for the road that takes you to the White Crack camp ground. No garmin mini back then and SPoT was a new thing I didn't have yet. Luckily I wasn't alone, had 5 minute JB weld, spent an 1 1/2 asking the next 21 people who went by for oil and finely got back on the trail. That was my first time on the WRT. I now have a Mini and glad to see people sharing how the SOS feature is working.
Thanks for the review I’m going to have to invest in one of those! I too have a 310gs and have done white rim, we definitely had some close calls and it was rough going after my fork seal blew out on the trail! The are a few shorts on my channel of it and some other local trails
sweet! I have never heard of another person on a baby g doing it. I could see that seal going out on this trail. I can't tell you how many times I bottomed out. I will check out your videos. I just posted one with the motorcycle on a track here in Washington. Thanks for watching.
Riding my quad, lost control and sent into a ditch smashing my ankle along the way. I was clear of the quad but had enough painto feel something may be broken in ankle. Rangers responded, started checking me out, blood pressure too high so they called in a helicopter, i wasnt given a choice. Helicopter ride cost insurance company $60k to get me to hospital about 40 minutes away.
oh man. that must have been so scary. I’ve never been in a helicopter I can’t imagine having to be airlifted. Glad you can talk about it. Thanks for sharing and watching the video.
Before I bought my ADV bike ( previously rode dirt bikes) I always wondered how someone could get pinned under a motorbike until it happened to me, it happened so fast I was pinned face down so couldn't twist enough to get any leverage to push the bike off, luckily finally managed to pull my foot out but it made me realise how much an extra 100kg of bike is. I carry the bigger in-reach and find it an invaluable tool, mostly to let family know where I am but as peace of mind in your scenario. Pleased you had a good outcome.
Oh no, you had it worse. I could at least move around but couldn't get my boot out no matter what. It did happen so fast. Glad you are still going. Thank you for watching and safe travels!
Since I know I will never ride two up on my Tiger RP, I took the passenger foot pegs off. Just looked like something extra to potentially injure or help pin my leg if I go down. They are on a decent sized bracket that sticks out even when the peg is folded up. I also have an in reach (always on my person, along with my phone)… and a one of those “old man out on his own” Moto jacks in my panniers… may not be able to get to it, but it’s there in case I for some reason I get in a bind where can’t lift my bike. Have a decent first aid kit as well. All added insurance out in the middle of nowhere (lots of remote spaces in the So Cal desert and mountains).
Glad your OK. But your the second explorer recently having problems. Check out "Itchy boots" crashing in a similar way in Africa!!! Ended up closing down her trip, and surgery- so good on ya for being to able ride it out.
I think it happens more often than people think. It is just not talked about as much. I think embarrassment might play a part but I think it's more important to share so people can learn what to expect. I really appreciate you watching!
Thanks for the sub!! I thought that it was just a waste of money at first. I researched and have heard the people they never find alive don't carry a rescue device. That was enough for me! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Good video. Thanks for the info. I have the Garmin Inreach+ & have downloaded their Earthmate app. You're right: trying to text on the Garmin is an exercise in frustration. BTW, I charge my electronic devices "in flight" so they're ready to go when I need them. Recommended.
Ever since I started riding off Road and out of cell coverage I have my GPS locator. Right now I have Garmin 66i before that SPOT also always take it on the hikes or Camping trips I have a full year subscription and never deactivate it . I never know when I will need it so its always ready
Glad you were okay and that everything worked out. I have some thoughts on this subject: First, if owning an InReach device, absolutely purchase Search and Rescue Insurance Plan for $40/yr. (in 2024)! It will reimburse up to $100k for SAR when using and InReach device for the emergency. Next, while I think the InReach devices are great, folks should also consider carrying a dedicated PLB device on their person. Like mentioned, if your phone isn't charged or the device isn't charged, you're screwed. The higher transmit power of a PLB is more likely to connect in areas of heavy canopy cover, canyons, or where tall mountains may interfere. It also transmits a homing signal so SAR can locate you when they can't see you. When you're alone "two is one, and one is none". Rubber side down.
Thanks for watching, great feedback and contributions. it is definitely a must have if you do any off road motorcycle riding, hiking, backpacking, anything in the forest lol. Many peeps go missing, it's almost monthly here is Washington.
Personal Locator Beacon is a smart idea, good to have redundancy. There may be reasons why one is not able to operate an InReach type device due to injury or fatigue. A PLB is just push the button and let it run. (Assuming that you are in a life-threatening circumstance and needing emergency services is a must.)
Glad you are ok and thanks for sharing your story. While I certainly don't know your whole story, a couple observations from someone who has been exploring the backcountry on big bikes for a couple decades. on . A stuck pant leg is not an emergency if you have a knife....ALWAYS have a knife and a whistle w/in reach. Goot that you had your InReach w/in reach. Often, I see clients with their PLBs on their bike, or on a "backpack" that can get ripped off. Tip....Keep you PLB w/in reach using a broken arm. The WRT is a very popular and active trail, before you trigger an SOS and divert rescue resources, ask yourself. Am I currently in real danger or just unconceived and scared? In this case you were inconvenienced and maybe a little scared. If you intend to ride solo, even on mainstream trails like the White Rim. you should have a "non-emergency" contact in your support stack that you can reach out to. Then, you can get their help in non-emergency situations (if available) and not tax the real emergencies. Again, I don't know you details, but there are a lot of people headed into the backcountry these days that rely on trained professionals to assist in inconvenient situations that might seem scary to the uninitiated. This can be problematic. If you are not bleeding out or broken, in a desert with no water, or about to freeze to death....call a friend.
Thanks for the comments. If it was just my pant leg, I have always carried a knife. I wear a tall enduro boot that covers my calf up to the bottom of my knee. The under peg got caught on the lip of my boot. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I tried for a half hour, even unbuckled and tried to pull my foot out. tried pushing it off with my free leg. It was during the week and I was 50 miles from anyone/anywhere. it was a last resort. I am from Washington state and did not know anyone out there. Stay safe out there.
@@Sasqmoto Appreciate your response. Many would taken some kind of offense. I cut my off-road teeth in the Washington backcountry and did a lot of solo riding where there would be no one for days. I can appreciate your context. Thanks for sharing and say hello to the OP for me.
Thank you. I can't even describe the scenery and it changed around every corner. I had soft and they were full. I did a load out video on what carries. it was episode 1 of the series. I would say they were 9 or 10 inches wide. that room kept the motorcycle from completely laying on my leg. Thank you for watching
@@Sasqmoto Thank you for your reply. Keep up the great work videoing the great scenery. They say soft panniers are safer off road than hard panniers. Do you think things would have been better or worse with hard panniers.
I think in the situation I would have been worse. the hard panniers they have for this motorcycle are very thin like 4 inches so I think I would have been pinned worse. The soft ones are 50 liters so they are nice and big!
I had to use the SOS last year. They responded via Helicopter since that was the only way to get to us since the roads were all washed out. Challenging ride to get to where we were in Nevada. Idaho actually responded and there was no cost for the service from the Sheriffs department. Don’t know if that is how all departments operate but was grateful to have the service and not have a huge bill for the rescue.
@sasqmoto Question about a comment in your final thoughts. You mention using voice to text to reach for help if your hands are injured (assuming the phone is charged). Does the inReach mini allow you to use your phone to compose the emergency messages? I just started looking into emergency beacons and understand it's slow communicating with the device itself. So if there's a way to pair it with a phone to compose texts, verbally or otherwise, I'd be really keen to know. Thanks
yes you use your phone with the app earthmate (garmin) that I used to text emergency services. it is really fast to do it that way. let me know if you have any other questions
Hi. No I have not. My experience with the phone being out in the woods has been not consistent with a GPS signal. I would not risk it. Until there's more use and testing. I will stick to the dedicated unit. Thanks for watching.
I normally ride on weekdays but they can be a double edge sword, no one around to bother you, but no one around to help. Even small bikes can end up in awkward positions lol Great series, cheers 👍
understandable, you can turn off the monthly charge if you don't use it. but remember you can use it in a boat or car and potentially help someone else 😁
Unsure which GPS you're running but I have a Zumo XT (looks similar to yours) and it can pair with the InReach giving you a 2nd option to have a bigger screen and a touchscreen to type if you phone is busted / dead!
Hi I do have the Zumo. it was hooked up but was easier with the phone than trying to reach the Zumo. plus I might have drained the battery on my motorcycle using it? Thanks for watching!
@@Sasqmoto phone is definitely easier but having the Zumo as plan B isn't a bad idea ;) Mine stays alive around 2h without bike power, it has an internal battery - no need to drain the bike! Happy riding!
I had something similar happen. I tried a side track up to a peak no one had been down in a while. I know because there were trees down in the road. Of course, I high sided on a loose corner. And I ended up below the bike stuck there. First thought was, Jesus am I gonna die here because I can't lift the bike? 😂 Luckily, I was able to unbuckle my boot after digging out around it and slip out of it. I bought an in reach after that.
That sounds so similar, glad you made it out safe. I couldn’t get to the straps or I would have taken my boot off. are you located in PNW? thanks for watching
Yeah, I got my leg trapped under my Big Adv bike and could not get it out too. I had the inreach but I was with someone so no call needed. Those bikes are kinda dangerous because of their mass. I prefer my ktm 500exc-f.
Someone should sell a satellite communicator that costs $100, with zero monthly subscription cost, but costs $100 to press the SOS button. I really only want this device for emergencies. SpaceX is greatly reducing the cost to launch satellites. TMobile has already launched a premium tier cell phone that can use satellite comms if there is no cell signal. Starlink is a viable are reasonably priced satellite internet service provider. Soon, we should have much lower cost emergency satellite communicators.
Verizon and att are also coming with that service. I'm sticking to a tried and true service before I switched. But I agree it should be accessible for every one and be affordable.
I keep it in my tank bag. I have a folding phone so not practical for keeping it on a mount. It's connected to my Zumo and intercom. Thanks for watching.
I’m 62 and 235 so if it is I’m in trouble 😂 Thanks for watching. if you do get one set preload at 5 and you’ll be fine. any other questions, let me know!
lol 6 hours condensed in 8 episodes. just wanted to show the reality. I can make a 10 minute video on everything. but watching those didn't prepare me for what to expect. it would be an injustice if I did that and wasn't showing what it's really like. Thanks for watching.
I have had to use the SOS button once in the 5 years I have my InReach. Not for me but for another rider. Amazing response and worth every penny I have spent
that’s awesome that you could help someone else. I carry it for the same reason . I might not need it but it could help save a life. thanks for watching and be safe!
I have the Garmin Inreach Messenger, the updated model. FYI, Garmin offers an insurance plan to pay for a rescue crew/helicopter. Read the fine print. Aside from charging both phone and InReach, carry a battery pack to recharge in the wild in case your rescue effort is delayed, you can't run the motor to recharge, or inclement weather shortens the performance of the battery
Great tips!
In 1985 my car threw a rod on 1-95 in Maryland. The roadside emergency button station I walked to didn’t work. 12 hours later a Maryland State Trooper stopped and called a tow truck for me. I had no emergency food or water. AAA paid for the tow. Things are better today. I’m glad you’re okay.
that's a crazy story. glad you're ok.
Dang bro, glad you are OK. I've been looking at those trackers recently, I live in BC and getting hurt up in the mountains would suck. Your story has compelled me to pull the trigger.
Thanks! They are so worth it for that one incident. You can also use it in your car, on a boat or even to help someone else in the middle of no where. Stay safe and Thanks for watching!!
I’m out in the wilderness almost every day either hiking, motorcycling, or jeeping and am never without my Garmin! Like you, I sometimes wonder what would happen if I needed it. Glad to hear of your success!
That’s awesome. I wish I could be out more. Having that Garmin is piece of mind. even more so now that I know it works 😀 I thought it was just wasting money until I heard that everyone that goes missing while in the backcountry and dies did not have a way to call sos. it put it all in perspective to get the Garmin. stay safe out there and enjoy every moment!
People anywhere who are in need of assistance should keep in mind that rescuers can usually find your vehicle easier than they can find you.......STRONGLY consider staying with your vehicle.
Great tips. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the Real World example of how the system works. Glad you're safe.
Thanks for watching. I always wondered if it worked. I've had it for 3 years. Now I know 🤣
Just about to press the button on a mini 2… you helped me decide! I’m 70 and returning to dirt riding on a lil TW200 but much of the areas I want to ride in have very sketchy cell service and I want to be able to do just what you did. Thanks! Glad you came out OK keep that rubber side DOWN! ;-)
great choice. stay safe and thanks for watching
Thanks! I've had an InReach SE for years. Actually it's a DeLORME, from before Garmin bought them. I have it while exploring the Nevada desert. I've never had to use the SOS button but it is nice being able to send the wife a message that has my exact location when I'm in the middle of nowhere. Glad you're okay.
Thank you. glad you haven’t had the need to use it. Stay safe out there!
I ran the entire White Rim trail on my xr650r in right at 4 hrs. It is a long axx trail!!!! Took all day in my jeep.
it took me seven hours with the crash lol and I stayed one night
I had a nearly identical situation a couple weekend ago on the Great Western Trail just outside of Torrey, UT. Foot was trapped and the rear peg was hung up on the inside of my boot.
Fortunately I did have service and Wayne County Sherrif’s came out to save my foot and maybe my life. I was only under the bike for about 30 mins but they were pretty scary and eye opening.
No injuries but still have some soreness and numbness on my leg where the bike was resting. 2007 R1200 GSA. Glad to hear your story and that you were ok. Plus the info about the Garmin is very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to post this.
oh no that’s crazy on a bigger motorcycle. that’s great that you had service and they were able to help. my motorcycle weighs a lot less than yours. I can only imagine how scary that was. Glad to hear you weren’t badly injured. Thanks for sharing and watching the video. I appreciate it.
I rented one of these for a long overlanding trip just in case. Didn't have any issues along the way so i only used it to update family. Thanks for walking through the emergency functions and glad it worked out well for you.
That mountain biker is hardcore too
Thank you. I'm glad you didn't have to use yours. it is great for updating. I couldn't believe seeing these mountain bikers out there. they are athletes definitely. Thanks for watching!
I agree with all your observations. I have a ZOLEO and never go anywhere out of cell service without it, whether I’m hiking, in the camper or on the bike. I have a 2019 310GS like you. I’ve never needed to press the SOS and hope I never do but it’s nice having the peace of mind that even though I can in very remote place I can still make contact when needed.
that's awesome. I never thought I would need it but am glad I had it! how are you liking the g310gs?Thanks for watching.
I also have a 2019 G310GS and the Zoleo is my current top-of-the-list satellite navigator to purchase but I need to do a more thorough analysis of all of the costs of ownership.
I’ve only had it a little over two weeks so far and have done about 120km of mostly pavement with some rough gravel and so far I love it. I had bikes when I was young and I’m just getting back into it. I’m a couple years older than you. I have to save the clutch takes some getting used to, it has such a small friction zone. I watched your videos and they helped me decide on this bike. Thanks for that.
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In 2021 at least, Zoleo was the best bang for your buck if you wanted to do messaging, especially unlimited messaging.
I went Boondocking for 12 weeks across Utah, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.
Having the ability to send a few text messages to my family to let them know where I was at. Coupled with the safety of the check-in and tracking features you can set up was pretty indispensable for me.
And the big red SOS button definitely gives peace of mind.
The messaging is very, very slow, do not expect to have much of a conversation, it takes 1-5 minutes to send an individual message.
but it really does work absolutely everywhere you have open sky and I didn’t have much trouble with it working in the forest either.
if you are not doing long-term, Boondocking, unlimited messaging is probably not necessary.
I was staying in places with zero cell reception for at least a week at a time between going into town for fuel, etc. So I wanted to be able to message people.
Anyways, hope that helps.
I am a “senior” and not a big person and not as strong as I used to be. I carry an Eastbound Motowinch (light weight, segmented and from Netherlands) strapped on my passenger seat. So far only used it once when the wheel chock on motorcycle trailer did not hold my bike up when I was getting reading to strap it down. But I bought it because I saw videos of someone advertising it and they showed example of being pinned under bike, pulling it out, setting it up and ratcheting the bike up enough to get out from under.
Oh, that is cool. I will have to check it out. Thanks for watching!
Great job! The Garmin InReach is a critical piece of equipment! Thanks for the details and I'm happy you were not hurt!!
Thank so much I appreciate it!
Glad to hear your story, it’s great you are ok. Thanks for sharing the story, you have helped a lot of people stay alive
Thanks for that I really appreciate it. It's important to share what happens so we can all learn together. Thank you for watching!
My understanding, from friends who are search and rescue volunteers, is that there is no cost for rescues by the local county agencies. Also, most of the county helicopter rescue guys LIVE for doing real rescues (they fortunately don’t do a lot of them). So if you have one of these devices and you or another person is at risk, hit the button. And if you go into the backcountry and don’t have one of these devices, get one.
I have heard the same. The cost is when it is a private entity like Life Flight. Hopefully I never find out :) Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Agree , I've been in SAR for over 30 years (different country) but we enjoy real callouts instead of just training so don't hesitate to hit the button if there is a genuine need.
At 60 yo and disabled, I am back on 2's but only on the street. I would have loved adventure riding but chose other things. I have considered doing some long ribbon and slab rides and I have considered carrying one of these as a backup to my cell. Even though I would likely not be out of service, it is possible. I am glad you were uninjured. Stay smooth and keep the ... well I guess, shinier side on top
HI that is admirable of you to still ride. Honestly, I can see carrying one even if you ride just the tarmac. It could help someone else in need as well if you are out of cell service range. Ride safe! Thank you for watching.
I carried a Garmin SPOT Gen 3 for many years, but recently canceled service on it because I quit riding off road. I was partially disabled for the past several years I rode, and realized that I was far more likely to become stranded in the middle of nowhere due to a mechanical breakdown, especially a flat tire. In the AZ desert, flat tires are a way of life. I've had dozens of them. But I realized that it was no longer likely that I would be able fix a flat tube type tire by myself out in the desert. And there is no way I could walk out. My walking distance is limited to about 2 blocks. That's when I gave up and sold my dual sport bikes. My understanding is they typically don't charge for a rescue if you are seriously injured. They are after all paid with taxpayer money. But if you are not injured, and are only stranded because of a mechanical breakdown, it's likely to get VERY expensive. Because you put yourself in that position knowing that you shouldn't have.
You mentioned all that texting. What if you are seriously injured, and the best you can do is push the SOS button? Are they still going to show up if you don't respond? Fortunately I never had to find out.
being out in the desert on the wrong day could also be dangerous, rattle snakes, fire ants, not to mention the obvious...heat. I am sorry that you had to give it up. As far as texting, I would imagine that if you hit the sos and didn't move, they would automatically send someone. they can see if the unit is traveling. I read about a guy that triggered his sos on accident. they could see his unit moving so they just called when he stopped. Thanks for watching!
Great PA, I'm a big fan of the InReach. Glad you adventuring on!
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. Safe travels!
Wow great adventure and related story!
We’re so fortunate to have this tech available to stay connected + alive. Gave you a Sub.
yes, we do. I think it save lives. I appreciate the sub. Thanks for watching and be safe.
Holy cow. Glad you're Ok. Made a believer out of me on the Garmin if I ever go out to that remote of an area.
I remember telling someone that I go hiking as well and on road trips I bring it just in case. you never know what can happen. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for putting this out!! 👍
Thanks for watching, I appreciate it!
I think that’s a good argument for using a lighter bike so that if that accident happens you can easily get from under the bike and you would still have plenty of power and easier in so many ways?
absolutely correct. I could only imagine if it was a bigger motorcycle what would have happened. There is no unicorn as far as motorcycles, but I love the baby G! Thanks for watching!
thanks for sharing this experience. i always have my inreach on me but was also not sure how it would work. this gives me a bit more peace of mind. i also crashed about 2 weeks ago in a foreihn country and unfortunatly tore my cruciate ligament, but there were people who were able to help. So no need for the inreach. Thanks again and happy offroading
I am glad to share my experience! sorry to hear about your crash. Wishing you a speedy recovery. How were you able to get the moto back and how long did it extend your stay in the country?
@@Sasqmoto after the crash some people helped me lift the bike and I was able to drive to a hotel, next Day a taxi to the hospital and a phone all to a doc in Switzerland. So I booked myself a flight home, stored the bike in the hotel. I will fly back to Sarajevo in 4 weeks to continue the ride.
wow, glad you’re ok and still wanting to ride. Get back on it and enjoy life. Thanks for sharing your experience. Most people don’t get out of the city they live in. That’s admirable. stay safe!
@@Sasqmoto well, in Europe the next broder is usually not that far away, for me it is just 5 minutes to the border between switzerland and germany, so we are used to visit other countries. traveling to other cultures is a lot of fun.
But I would love to ride in your areas as well. did visit the nationalparks 20 years ago on a car, but what fun it would be to do it again on a bike.
Wow! Glad you’re ok. That’s a scary situation to be in. I ride alone and have started videoing with a GoPro. I’m on paved roads but outside of the city and I think about what would happen if I took a spill. It wouldn’t be pretty. I mount my GoPro on the handlebars and have it off and hit the record button to record and hit it again to stop recording and it turns off. I could see that happening just like it did to you even though I’m on country roads. That pavement can jump up and trip me up outa nowhere. Excellent video and information. Be safe.
yes ,pull over to be safe. learn from me. Thanks for watching!
I was riding my TW200 on a weekday in the mountains close to my city. I was going up a fairly gnarly trail, and I had a 4 inch wide trail to miss this huge boulder that was buried. I missed my 4 inch trail and the rear wheel went into the hole at the bottom of the boulder. My torquey little bike instantly went over backwards and landed on my left leg. I was not hurt, but I could not get into a position to lift the bike off my leg.
I always ride alone, and I have done so for 40 + years. About 7 years ago I bought an ARC Personal Locater Beacon. That first one aged out after 5 years, and I bought a new one to replace it. I really did not want to call out Search and Rescue just to lift the bike off my leg, but I would have. Fortunately I wore my Carr-Hart slip on mini boots that day. With some effort, I was able to slide my foot out of my boot and get out from under my TW. I did have a deep abrasion on my ankle that left a mark that will be with me for the rest of my life, BUT, I did get out without needing to call S&R.
On one of the websites they had a story about an older couple that was driving their Jeep up by Flagstaff AZ. They were 30 miles from the pavement, and got hopelessly stuck. They had a PLB, but they thought that it was only for emergencies. They Husband decided to try to walk out, but after 1 mile, he realized that 30 miles was not doable, so he went back. They activated their PLB and about an hour later S&R made it to them. They started to apologize right away because neither of them were injured. The S&R people then said, "We would much rather come out here and help you folks out than come out for a body recovery." I never have forgotten that!!! By the way, I am 77 years old, and I still ride a dirt bike. Go figure!!
By the way, I am 77 years old, and still riding a dirt bike. Go figure!
I’m glad you weren’t hurt. That could have been disastrous. the story you tell about that couple is a testament to not worry about what people think. if you feel you need help, call for help! I think pride plays a lot into people’s decisions. but pride has started world wars. It is admirable that you still ride. I hope to as well when I get older. Stay safe and thanks for watching!
If you do anything in the backcountry in the US, you should check the State and see if there is a SAR stamp/card you can get. In Utah, it's called a USARA card. Not only will it help fund search and rescue efforts in the State, but may help you personally avoid some expenses on your end if you need to use those services.
Thanks for the information, I wasn't aware! I will check it out. Also, Thanks for watching and contributing information that will help everyone!
Great information. My wife and I have been talking about it for a while. Think it's time to get one. FYI. My ridingh/hunting kit includes a USB battery charger.
Thanks for the compliment. I always take a battery pack, it is 25000mh, can charge iPad, phones etc. Camping overnight I made sure a plugged them in. It is a great little item, especially if you go hunting, or hiking or even on a road trip. It can come in handy. Stay safe and Thanks for watching!
Glad you're OK.
Yeah Ive been out there a few times on my ADV... There was a few sand sections that'd just swallow the GSA , I was on, itd get sketchy really fast.
Thanks, wow you're brave for riding the bigger motorcycle out there. Was it hard to handle going up the mountains and the descent? Thanks for watching!
@@Sasqmoto I felt the sand stuff was more difficult.... On these heavy bikes there's zero chance of speeds up and stay on top like my KTM 300....
🙏 Glad to see that you are OK!
Much appreciated!
Glad your ok, amazing views in this series, has been great, all the best.
Thank you so much for the compliment. I really appreciate it and Thank you for watching!
I carry a Garmin and phone, but I also carry a ratchet jack ( Eastbound) in a bag strapped to the posterior seat. In theory I could, if trapped, dig it out and lift the bike off of my legs. I do worry about dropping my bike. And not being able to lift the bike ( I,m 73 y.o.). A solo hiker “ wanderlust” used a Garmin to evacuate via helicopter. I believe Garmin paid for a significant amount of the $ fee.
the jack would have worked. except I was already carrying a lot 🤣 good on you for continuing to ride. I can only hope to do it when I am your age. stay safe and thanks for watching!
GREAT report. Very useful information. I went solo off road moto camping once, last July, on my G310GS. I dropped the bike as soon as I tried to leave camp but I was off the bike and standing next to it before I knew what happened. My subconscious knew better than to try to save it and be trapped under the bike in remote woods where I'd be found in several months. I didn't have a satellite communicator but texting is reliable at that location. I just went back with a friend a week ago and almost dropped the bike three times on the way to the campsite. I was tired and hot, maybe like you, 50 miles into the White Rim Trail.
I definitely need to get a satellite communicator. I need to study the costs. It'd be worth paying more per month if there was no penalty to suspend or pay lower inactive account maintenance costs every month, although I'm riding more in the off months than I expected. I went camping in the Hoosier National Forest in Indiana last December.
It was very handy that the friendly mountain biker came by to help rescue you, but you couldn't wait all day for the hope of a rescue, so it's also good that you pressed the SOS button and were able to cancel the rescue.
I believe the most dangerous thing I do on my motorcycle is trying to turn my GoPro on and off. The user interface sucks and takes several tries, when I should be giving my full attention to riding. Sometimes, I think I turned off the camera and it stays on until the battery dies 30 minutes later, then it won't turn on again until I stop and change batteries. It's a terrible user interface for an action camera, which is intended for use during strenuous and demanding activities. I'd install the GoPro app on the tablet that I use for a GPS navigator and run the two apps split screen, but using WiFi to control the GoPro eats the tiny battery. I should bite the bullet and buy a DJI Osmo or Insta360 (not the fish eye 360 degree version that needs special video editing software).
I should have just pulled over. I don't think they charge to suspend the service. I use it for roads trips as well. getting hurt would have been a different story. I like you would rather let the motorcycle go than try to save it. that's what the crush bars are for. the insta 360 is not a great camera for motorcycle riding. thanks for watching and be safe out there.
@@Sasqmoto - Insta360 has a newer One RS action camera that isn't the 360 degree version. It's a better version of the GoPro and it's getting good reviews from moto adventurers. However, I just read some reviews. Many of the negative reviews are people thinking they were getting a 360 degree video camera. I'd chalk those up to ignorant consumers. However, there were some negative reviews based on overheating, relatively short battery life, poor durability/reliability, and not working without installing an app and no Linux support (like their 360 degree video editing software).
I'm glad you weren't injured.
I've ridden WRT twice. It's a serious road but we'll worth the effort.
Hi Thanks for watching. what were the hardest parts for you? what did you ride?
@@Sasqmoto my first time was on a DR650. Two years ago I rode WRR again on a Honda CB500X with all the Rally Raid goodies. Fantastic bike but a mite heavier than I liked for this road.
I strongly recommend running the WRR clockwise- down Shaffer switchbacks, up Mineral switchbacks- so the nastier sections are downhill.
For me the most difficult section was Murphy Hogback. In the clockwise direction going down Murphy is much easier than trying to go up it. Hardscrabble Hill was interesting but not too bad; again, clockwise is easier, IMHO.
yes, I went clock wise as well. Murphy's was hard but I think hardscrabble was just as difficult and the descent from hardscrabble was a white knuckle ride in the silt on that steep downhill.
@@Sasqmoto oh yeah I forgot about that silt lol
I remember being very happy I was going down hill at the time.
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HA, i had a rock bust a hole in my case of my old KLR back in 2010'ish at that very same area as you. I was literally at the junction for the road that takes you to the White Crack camp ground. No garmin mini back then and SPoT was a new thing I didn't have yet. Luckily I wasn't alone, had 5 minute JB weld, spent an 1 1/2 asking the next 21 people who went by for oil and finely got back on the trail. That was my first time on the WRT. I now have a Mini and glad to see people sharing how the SOS feature is working.
your story is better than mine 🤣 I'm glad you made it safe. that's crazy that you had to ask for oil! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the review I’m going to have to invest in one of those! I too have a 310gs and have done white rim, we definitely had some close calls and it was rough going after my fork seal blew out on the trail! The are a few shorts on my channel of it and some other local trails
sweet! I have never heard of another person on a baby g doing it. I could see that seal going out on this trail. I can't tell you how many times I bottomed out. I will check out your videos. I just posted one with the motorcycle on a track here in Washington. Thanks for watching.
Riding my quad, lost control and sent into a ditch smashing my ankle along the way. I was clear of the quad but had enough painto feel something may be broken in ankle. Rangers responded, started checking me out, blood pressure too high so they called in a helicopter, i wasnt given a choice. Helicopter ride cost insurance company $60k to get me to hospital about 40 minutes away.
oh man. that must have been so scary. I’ve never been in a helicopter I can’t imagine having to be airlifted. Glad you can talk about it. Thanks for sharing and watching the video.
Before I bought my ADV bike ( previously rode dirt bikes) I always wondered how someone could get pinned under a motorbike until it happened to me, it happened so fast I was pinned face down so couldn't twist enough to get any leverage to push the bike off, luckily finally managed to pull my foot out but it made me realise how much an extra 100kg of bike is. I carry the bigger in-reach and find it an invaluable tool, mostly to let family know where I am but as peace of mind in your scenario. Pleased you had a good outcome.
Oh no, you had it worse. I could at least move around but couldn't get my boot out no matter what. It did happen so fast. Glad you are still going. Thank you for watching and safe travels!
Since I know I will never ride two up on my Tiger RP, I took the passenger foot pegs off. Just looked like something extra to potentially injure or help pin my leg if I go down. They are on a decent sized bracket that sticks out even when the peg is folded up. I also have an in reach (always on my person, along with my phone)… and a one of those “old man out on his own” Moto jacks in my panniers… may not be able to get to it, but it’s there in case I for some reason I get in a bind where can’t lift my bike. Have a decent first aid kit as well. All added insurance out in the middle of nowhere (lots of remote spaces in the So Cal desert and mountains).
Glad your OK. But your the second explorer recently having problems. Check out "Itchy boots" crashing in a similar way in Africa!!! Ended up closing down her trip, and surgery- so good on ya for being to able ride it out.
I think it happens more often than people think. It is just not talked about as much. I think embarrassment might play a part but I think it's more important to share so people can learn what to expect. I really appreciate you watching!
Great video and thanks for sharing. Glad you’re ok. Been looking at Inreach products for sometime, think I’ll get one now! Subscribed! Ride safe
Thanks for the sub!! I thought that it was just a waste of money at first. I researched and have heard the people they never find alive don't carry a rescue device. That was enough for me! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Good video. Thanks for the info. I have the Garmin Inreach+ & have downloaded their Earthmate app. You're right: trying to text on the Garmin is an exercise in frustration. BTW, I charge my electronic devices "in flight" so they're ready to go when I need them. Recommended.
Hi thanks for watching. I have a charger on my motorcycles as well. It always a good idea to keep everything charged. Stay safe out there!
Ever since I started riding off Road and out of cell coverage I have my GPS locator. Right now I have Garmin 66i before that SPOT also always take it on the hikes or Camping trips I have a full year subscription and never deactivate it . I never know when I will need it so its always ready
Thanks for watching. Have you ever had to use yours? I never thought I would need it. I have it on me whenever riding.
@@Sasqmoto no I never had to use it and hope it stays that way
Glad you were okay and that everything worked out. I have some thoughts on this subject: First, if owning an InReach device, absolutely purchase Search and Rescue Insurance Plan for $40/yr. (in 2024)! It will reimburse up to $100k for SAR when using and InReach device for the emergency. Next, while I think the InReach devices are great, folks should also consider carrying a dedicated PLB device on their person. Like mentioned, if your phone isn't charged or the device isn't charged, you're screwed. The higher transmit power of a PLB is more likely to connect in areas of heavy canopy cover, canyons, or where tall mountains may interfere. It also transmits a homing signal so SAR can locate you when they can't see you. When you're alone "two is one, and one is none". Rubber side down.
Thanks for watching, great feedback and contributions. it is definitely a must have if you do any off road motorcycle riding, hiking, backpacking, anything in the forest lol. Many peeps go missing, it's almost monthly here is Washington.
Personal Locator Beacon is a smart idea, good to have redundancy. There may be reasons why one is not able to operate an InReach type device due to injury or fatigue. A PLB is just push the button and let it run. (Assuming that you are in a life-threatening circumstance and needing emergency services is a must.)
Glad you are ok and thanks for sharing your story. While I certainly don't know your whole story, a couple observations from someone who has been exploring the backcountry on big bikes for a couple decades. on . A stuck pant leg is not an emergency if you have a knife....ALWAYS have a knife and a whistle w/in reach. Goot that you had your InReach w/in reach. Often, I see clients with their PLBs on their bike, or on a "backpack" that can get ripped off. Tip....Keep you PLB w/in reach using a broken arm. The WRT is a very popular and active trail, before you trigger an SOS and divert rescue resources, ask yourself. Am I currently in real danger or just unconceived and scared? In this case you were inconvenienced and maybe a little scared. If you intend to ride solo, even on mainstream trails like the White Rim. you should have a "non-emergency" contact in your support stack that you can reach out to. Then, you can get their help in non-emergency situations (if available) and not tax the real emergencies. Again, I don't know you details, but there are a lot of people headed into the backcountry these days that rely on trained professionals to assist in inconvenient situations that might seem scary to the uninitiated. This can be problematic. If you are not bleeding out or broken, in a desert with no water, or about to freeze to death....call a friend.
Thanks for the comments. If it was just my pant leg, I have always carried a knife. I wear a tall enduro boot that covers my calf up to the bottom of my knee. The under peg got caught on the lip of my boot. I couldn't get it out no matter what. I tried for a half hour, even unbuckled and tried to pull my foot out. tried pushing it off with my free leg. It was during the week and I was 50 miles from anyone/anywhere. it was a last resort. I am from Washington state and did not know anyone out there. Stay safe out there.
@@Sasqmoto Appreciate your response. Many would taken some kind of offense. I cut my off-road teeth in the Washington backcountry and did a lot of solo riding where there would be no one for days. I can appreciate your context. Thanks for sharing and say hello to the OP for me.
No problem. I’m planning on doing the Washington BDR this year as well. if you are every here in Washington, I’d love to go on a ride.
Glad everything worked out OK for you. Beautiful scenery. Curious if you had hard or soft painners?
Thank you. I can't even describe the scenery and it changed around every corner. I had soft and they were full. I did a load out video on what carries. it was episode 1 of the series. I would say they were 9 or 10 inches wide. that room kept the motorcycle from completely laying on my leg. Thank you for watching
@@Sasqmoto Thank you for your reply. Keep up the great work videoing the great scenery. They say soft panniers are safer off road than hard panniers.
Do you think things would have been better or worse with hard panniers.
I think in the situation I would have been worse. the hard panniers they have for this motorcycle are very thin like 4 inches so I think I would have been pinned worse. The soft ones are 50 liters so they are nice and big!
Rapid Garmin response was due to wide open sky bowl on the Rim Road - you can see lots of satellites.
Yes. I wonder how long a delay of I was in the forest. Thanks for watching!
And because it's Garmin on irdidium and not spot on globalstar
And I’m glad your ok
Thank you so much I appreciate it.
I had to use the SOS last year. They responded via Helicopter since that was the only way to get to us since the roads were all washed out. Challenging ride to get to where we were in Nevada. Idaho actually responded and there was no cost for the service from the Sheriffs department. Don’t know if that is how all departments operate but was grateful to have the service and not have a huge bill for the rescue.
wow. we're you hurt at all or just stuck? Thanks for watching.
@sasqmoto Question about a comment in your final thoughts. You mention using voice to text to reach for help if your hands are injured (assuming the phone is charged). Does the inReach mini allow you to use your phone to compose the emergency messages? I just started looking into emergency beacons and understand it's slow communicating with the device itself. So if there's a way to pair it with a phone to compose texts, verbally or otherwise, I'd be really keen to know. Thanks
yes you use your phone with the app earthmate (garmin) that I used to text emergency services. it is really fast to do it that way. let me know if you have any other questions
Great information!
Glad it was helpful!
Have you considered the iPhone now has satellite texting for SOS, and is very reliable and easy to use. All with no fee.
Hi. No I have not. My experience with the phone being out in the woods has been not consistent with a GPS signal. I would not risk it. Until there's more use and testing. I will stick to the dedicated unit. Thanks for watching.
I normally ride on weekdays but they can be a double edge sword, no one around to bother you, but no one around to help. Even small bikes can end up in awkward positions lol Great series, cheers 👍
yes very true. get a emergency beacon if you don't have one. the Garmin works in Australia too 😁
@@Sasqmoto Been putting off getting one, don't like the subscription bit. Think I might have to though, if only for piece of mind.
understandable, you can turn off the monthly charge if you don't use it. but remember you can use it in a boat or car and potentially help someone else 😁
Unsure which GPS you're running but I have a Zumo XT (looks similar to yours) and it can pair with the InReach giving you a 2nd option to have a bigger screen and a touchscreen to type if you phone is busted / dead!
Hi I do have the Zumo. it was hooked up but was easier with the phone than trying to reach the Zumo. plus I might have drained the battery on my motorcycle using it? Thanks for watching!
@@Sasqmoto phone is definitely easier but having the Zumo as plan B isn't a bad idea ;)
Mine stays alive around 2h without bike power, it has an internal battery - no need to drain the bike!
Happy riding!
very true. I forgot about unmounting it 😂
Yea if your ever on east coast we could hook up and ride the MABRD
that would be awesome! thanks for watching!
I had something similar happen. I tried a side track up to a peak no one had been down in a while. I know because there were trees down in the road. Of course, I high sided on a loose corner. And I ended up below the bike stuck there. First thought was, Jesus am I gonna die here because I can't lift the bike? 😂 Luckily, I was able to unbuckle my boot after digging out around it and slip out of it. I bought an in reach after that.
That sounds so similar, glad you made it out safe. I couldn’t get to the straps or I would have taken my boot off. are you located in PNW? thanks for watching
@@Sasqmoto yeah Portland. This was near Leavenworth while I was riding the WABDR.
oh sweet. I'm here in Olympia. I'm going to do the WABDR coming up soon.
@@Sasqmoto avoid riding up mountains on loose, abandoned roads off of the route. 😂
Hahaha, note taken. what did you ride on the BDR?
Yeah, I got my leg trapped under my Big Adv bike and could not get it out too. I had the inreach but I was with someone so no call needed. Those bikes are kinda dangerous because of their mass. I prefer my ktm 500exc-f.
oh no, what size is your adv? The KTM is light comparatively! Thanks for watching
voice to text only works if you have signal.
I did not know that!
how were you able to text if there was no cell service?
The Garmin Inreach uses satellites to communicate. so when sending the texts they use that same satellite.
Someone should sell a satellite communicator that costs $100, with zero monthly subscription cost, but costs $100 to press the SOS button. I really only want this device for emergencies. SpaceX is greatly reducing the cost to launch satellites. TMobile has already launched a premium tier cell phone that can use satellite comms if there is no cell signal. Starlink is a viable are reasonably priced satellite internet service provider. Soon, we should have much lower cost emergency satellite communicators.
Verizon and att are also coming with that service. I'm sticking to a tried and true service before I switched. But I agree it should be accessible for every one and be affordable.
where do you keep your phone when you ride?
I keep it in my tank bag. I have a folding phone so not practical for keeping it on a mount. It's connected to my Zumo and intercom. Thanks for watching.
Hey Sasq I’m 245lbs and 6 foot I’m I to big for this bike
I’m 62 and 235 so if it is I’m in trouble 😂 Thanks for watching. if you do get one set preload at 5 and you’ll be fine. any other questions, let me know!
How did you text with no cell service?
the garmin uses satellite, the text goes through that. works great. Thanks for asking the question!
@@Sasqmoto
So the phone uses Bluetooth to the Garmin InReach then. Got it.
eight episodes to get halfway around huh?
lol 6 hours condensed in 8 episodes. just wanted to show the reality. I can make a 10 minute video on everything. but watching those didn't prepare me for what to expect. it would be an injustice if I did that and wasn't showing what it's really like. Thanks for watching.
Damn that's crazy, I'd get a lighter bike
hahaha, it wasn't the weight. just that my boot was caught. Thanks for watching!
How were you not able to unpin yourself? Sounds like you didn’t try enough