Muslim made her think! Hashim Vs Atheist Girl | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park
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may Allah give you brothers tawfiq
MashAllah daii brothers doing it well. Just that the bro in a hat and glasses to the left needs to work on his W's. He is constantly mispronouncing Will and Willing as Vill and Villing....
The young guy was too impressive..he was spot on with his analogies
Which young guy ?
@@BabangTamfan-l7g I think Ismael is his name..I am talking about the young kid who was helping Hashim in his arguments
@@inamdurrani9259 The Kid wasnt smart. He was using sophistry and jumbling premise and conclusion
into one. he was speaking about "necessities" without proving the validity of his argument.
Your standards are very low...
@@malikbenslimane2873who?
I love and like polite discussions like this...bring it more
It was not polite, nor interesting. It was different people throwing ineffective arguments at eachother.
You heard him say "necessary existence". thats not even a scientific term or argument, but a premise and
conclusion in one.
How dumb do you have to be to think that is smart?
Alhamdulillah, enjoyed this. A sincere couple. MAY ALLAH SWT grant them guidance. From South Africa.
Stop guiding people to the 'truth'. Islam is a cancer and a stain upon humanity. The West is founded on freedom and dignity, not child marriage and fake prophets.
Listening with an open and attentive mind is a sign of intelligence.
Some people listen to answer ans others listen to learn. The girl and the boy are the latter.
Great discussion.
It's a shame the video ended, wanted to know where is conversation went, the couple seem a lot more wise than others.
Part 2 coming soon
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@@Laggy-BS lol ik ook lk lll k ook op llj ik jk ook l kijk ik ik ook
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These two are so polite and discussion is they are having is calm; very nice to see this 😊
MashaAllah to the young Daee.
Very impressive on his analogies
☝🏻 Hashim is the enlightener, Barakallah.. ❤
Hashem and the two together with the next brother have presented the woman and the man very beautifully, may Allah increase your knowledge.
The other brother is Bro Ismail. He is really good at debating Atheist
Love this talk❤
So much weight we give to Consciousness but the start point to consciousness that is God, no one wants to think about... Amazing!
God is the creator of consciousness but science has no tool to measure it. Same way, science has no tool to identify or measure God. They have to believe in the sinless prophets for that.
Appreciate their desire to understand God which has no beginning and no ending it is not an easy task for those who are not seeking the truth
The young man, mashallah may Allah reward him and guide him
Brother Hashim at it again! Masha'Allah such a clear explanation sending people into deep thought!
Brother Hashim is just amazing !
Now come another handsome brother Ismael ( oh my Gosh)
May god help those in front of them
I think the word Hashim was looking for is *Intent* to substitute for *will* . Cause they couldn't get it. I felt that pain too, and they seem sincere may Allah guide and open their hearts
They knew what he meant, but were afraid to admit. As what Allah says, human are too proud and egoistic. Hadith: None shall enter the Fire (of Hell) who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of Iman and none shall enter Paradise who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of pride.
@@ghanibujang5803 Right🤝
The brother that added to the conversion really like him, hope to see him mkre in videos
Bro Ismail his name
This is the power of knowledge. Rational conversation
These discussions are so beneficial
“If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't.” ~Emerson Pugh
Such a complex creation must have a creator.
@@LUTFAR-ERP If only complex things can have a creator, then god must be simple and primitive, else he too needs a creator.
@@Wabbelpaddel There is no comparison to God. If you can resemble anyone or anything to anyone or anything, surely that is not God.
@@LUTFAR-ERP What about the property of being existent, that created things have?
@@Wabbelpaddel Created things came to existence after being created. But the Almighty creator was ever existed. No beginning, no end. Only this knowledge of Islam brings an end to the infinite regress. Why should I believe this? Because the Almighty has told this to me through Muhammad(peace be upon him). Why should I belive Muhammad (peace be upon him)? Because he never lied and he had no reason to lie.
need more vid with Hashim, thanks for great video.
i think sharifabulaith gives the best explaination regarding with "The will of the first cause " : if the process is spontaneous, eternal cause will bring eternal effect. but if the process have the will , eternal cause will bring temporal effect (which are all the contingent thing).
Very well measured delivery by both Brothers
With all due respect to Hashim. I gradually understand why Shamsi says Kalaam is a huge misguidance. It just complicates things and makes people more confused than enlightened. There's no better call to Allah than with his own words. May Allah bless brother Hashim for his efforts tho and increase his knowledge.
Ameen
hahah the guy with the message of the trumpet behind just made my day ! Allah blessss my muslim brothers. dont know if anyone had noticed him for his great awarness :)
he annoying and forcing idea on others, whilest the not contributing to the conversation except for being there, its like a dude that shows off his muscles in the camera, without the necessary of why we came to the video
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
The best answer for the dilemma of will would be in my opinion, the example of an eternal fire.
A mexhanical process if eternal wpuld produce an eternal effect.
If a fire is burning eternally, it's light which is its effect, will also be eternal.
So universe has to be eternal if the cause is mechanical but it isn't because it began to exist at some point in time.
So in order for a being/something to cause a temporal effect like a universe, it has to actively choose to create it a certain time. Hence it must possess will.
Barak Allah
Hachim macha allah ❤️
Hashim my beloved Brother in sake of Allah
Are you from relizane ? :P
@@akahige9626 yes Bro
@@Algerian.ARAB_48 I'm from Oran 😄
Keep Islam out of the West.
Some high level awesomeness
21:09 | Allah tells us about this by naming Himself (The First), so there is nothing before Him, and (The Last), so there is nothing after Him. Glory be to Him.
I think to make it simple with the whole independent being must have a will & intelligence, we should make an argument on how could something that have no will & intelligence can bring about complex design & being that also have will & intelligence, like us humanity. This may very solve the doubt from both the universarism & randomness arguments.
Brother Hashim please give chance to this new Canadian brother.
He is also fit to debate people specially atheist.
SubhanAllah ☝🏻🌹
To seek&learn knowledge,someone of the companions of the prophet crossed continents.
Look how blessed we are.......mashallah it really good to see and hear the productive video.
Alhamdulillah
My brother Hashim 💪🏻❤️
Greetings from Indonesia...
Another wholesome discussion, hashim and ismael at it again
Very nice disussions.
Allah - there is no deity except Him, Al-Hayy (the Ever-Living), Al-Qayyûm (the Sustainer of [all] existence). Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth.
Respect with bro hashim knowledge
In my opinion, not everything or not every cause has a will.
Many things happen by will or against will or without will.
We have tons of evidence of consciousness. If you are aware of your surroundings, you are conscious. Someone who is not aware of their surrounding is unconscious.
I like the way you talk.
If a created being can have a will why is it inconceivable that the creator can have a will??
So tall guy asked about the possibility of salad ingredients somehow becoming a salad without agency, proceeded to say "if you threw them up in the air" could they land and become a salad/Shakespeare/whatever.
Throwing them up in the air is already willful agency.
When we recognize ourselves, so we recognize the existence of God.
In short, nothing plus nothing can never be something, unless something was always there to initiate creation. The creation itself is a testimoney of an eternal creator. Quran mentions the attributes of the creator. Read the Quran ❤
Awesome
Mashallah
Intent would’ve been easy for them to understand instead of will.
Why the video just ends in a random place. Please respect the viewers, I’ve spent 28 mins of my day to see how this conversation ends. Anyway, may Allah guide us and them to the truth 🤍 they seem sincerely interested in the truth 🙏
watch 2nd part
@@AbdulRauf-dy9fl yea I just noticed that they pinned the second part in the comment section 😅 thanks for letting me know! 🙏
What's the deal with the "SignBoard Guy"??? I keep seeing him in every speakers' corner's video ..
I don't know if you ask Christian about this what is their answer, maybe they will say it's a mystery again 🤣🤣🤣
I didnt know Nemanja Vidic had a moderate level of understanding of Philosophy. 😂
Whats the message banner sign in blue trying to convey? Is that sarcasm?
The guy with the subway sign... thats the best paid job hes ever had. .. £1.59 an hour 😅
A stone may have dreams but it cannot decide when to wake up !
great example when people dont have an answer listening what the answer could be
I wish brother hashim and the other brothers broke down his videos to see his mindset on why he chose certain arguments.
Did you know❗The word Islam means peace and submission. Muslims greet each other by saying 'Salaam alaykum' meaning 'peace be upon you'. , the majority of Muslims believe in seeking a just and peaceful world. The Qur'an teaches that Allah wants Muslims to control their aggression and approach others with peace.
❇️❇️❇️The Qur'an❇️❇️❇️
For Muslims the Qur'an is of supreme importance because it is the direct words of Allah to humankind, and it is therefore treated with great respect. The Qur'an often refers to teachings about peace and reconciliation:
Allah say
{ God invites to the Home of Peace, and guides whomever He wills to a straight path}.[ref.Quran 10:25]
Ismael is a lion like Hamza....Atheist gone😂
Nice video
ISLAM is a way of Life its like a manual how to leave in this creations that's ISLAM.
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❇️❇️❇️Peace and equality❇️❇️❇️
Islam seeks peace and harmony within a community, the ummah and also between countries. Islam teaches that reconciliation is of great importance.
Allah say
{Whoever saved a life; it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind.} Ref/Qur'an 5:32
Allah god say in Quran
{Do not let your hatred of people incite you to aggression}.ref/Qur’an 5:3)
Allah god say
{Paradise is for…those who curb their anger and forgive their fellow men.}Ref/Qur'an 3:134
Will to deliberately cause an action
The guy with the board… every time. Is hé mental ok ????
رحمك الله وغفر لك
If there are creatures, there must be a creator... I cannot say that the car I drive was not created by anyone, just because I was not in the factory that was built.
Hashim makes her think about Islam....Alhamdulillah...
....but there's this religion that will definetly make her confuse...make a guess...
Maybe concept Newton's 1st Law of Motion may explain to them.
Salam people
Allah Swt merely wills it ....be and it is....and I submit my will to the will of HIS YA RABB
No no no it's not active; in order to cause something, you must 'action' it.
Hmm. Sounds like those two words might be somewhat similar. I wonder how we describe the thing DOING an action. We could call it an 'actionatory' thing, but I swear there's a more common word I've heard . . . .
For some strange reason we are unable to find a set of twins with an absolutely identical set of prints.The random ideology part seems to be failing miserably when it comes to fingerprints....
Surely this existence is exploding with random activity. Nevermind that, existence itself we're told is random, so expecting to see a set of twins with identical DNA and identical prints should be absolutely expected. It should be commonplace.... but we just aren't seeing this.... I wonder 🤔 why......
Randomness is not random😂
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Allah say {He is God; besides Whom there is no god; the Sovereign, the Holy, the Peace-Giver, the Faith-Giver, the Overseer, the Almighty, the Omnipotent, the Overwhelming. Glory be to God, beyond what they associate}. [Ref.Quran 59:23]
❇️❇️❇️Prophet Muhammad❇️❇️❇️
In the Hadith the Prophet Muhammad teaches that maintaining peace and good relations is very important and that Muslims should not get carried away with feelings of hatred towards others:
{Do you know what is better than charity and fasting and prayer? It is keeping peace and good relations between people, as quarrels and bad feelings destroy mankind.}ref/Hadith
Brother, plz blur the women's body parts which are not allowed for us to see.
Cool
better to change the word "will' to 'want'. I see it causing some confusion with people.
computers will push nuclear button? what. . .
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Random? A specific DNA code, a specific tilt of the axis where 1 degree too far or not far enough would be game over for us, a specific placement of stars in the sky from our vantage point to perfectly draw out pictures in the sky, a perfect trajectory of meteors over hundreds of millions of years ramming into the earth to get it to heat up to release trapped water in the comets and then subsequently cool down to the perfect temperature, and that's all random?
I'm not a religious person, but this is why I could never be atheist. Too many specific conditions had to play out perfectly just to toss it all up to " lucky random accident"
Without lies Islam dies. 😮😮
Ok hater
Mashallah the dawah community is strong. But when we use terms like self sufficient, necessary being, contingent, infinite regress etc you lose people because these terms aren't defined in simple English upfront. You assume people even know what infinite regress means?
It is one thing to recognise our inherent human limitations on knowledge and so say there are things we 'may' never come to know. It is another thing entirely to positively claim and assert that we 'will' never know a particular matter like how or why we have consciousness? While the first matter is self evident, the second surely needs demonstrable proof of claim or is otherwise just a kind of secular imperious ignorance masquerading as intellectual humility. That is to say it is an assertion that actually imposes ignorance imperiously - by laying claim to an apparently superior academic humility for the self which at the same time implicitly demands that others equally take the same position that “we just don't or cannot ever know.” Ironically, this is an objection against belief in God which itself depends upon faith; for it relies upon the belief in an intangible yet supposedly unassailable ignorance against which all endeavours for enlightenment are futile.
I think it was a mistake in the argument to equate that something to a being. Hasyim should have sticked to that something and talk about this something attributes
Requiring allmighty sufficient perfect wisdom in designing in creations demonstrates Perfect creator exist behind creations,, as well paint painter art artist.. meal cooker.. book, writer... building palace, constructer engiiener, design designer relevanty ... so on as similar...
alot of people says "science"... what science means? i think they dont even know it, and have different opinion bout it. and for me more make a sense the meaning of science only knowledge. like shabir said
Please brothers in scdawah, please blur this crazy guy holding his crazy message behind hashim at the beginning of the video, don't give him a platform to spread his lies.
Salam
what is wrong with iraq computer?
So basically what you're. Saying? If you don't have an answer for it must be god that you can't prove exist.
How and where did death and suffering come from and how did bad things happen go to the book of genesis the first book ...
14:03
It not have to have a will it could be inherent within itself to act, just like people breathe, it is not their will, it is a unconscious action, the will argument is stupid, God does have a will but he does not need to have a will.
That is why you are a well-designed creature, fit for purpose, you dont have to WILL everytime for your internal organs to function. It is AUTOMATIC.
@@carliemorales204 exactly my point, will is no necessary for action, the one that created us does not necessarily need to have a will, it could be just a function of God, it could be that God does have a will.
@@yayorandel6048
Hello, what point????
You breathe automatically because that is what your internal organs are designed for. But if you want to drink coffee, even if the cup, teaspoon, hotwater, creamer and sugar are there for million of years, you wont have a cup of hot coffee, unless you WILL to act and make one.
Then why JESUS said His will and GOD's will is different? This means GOD had will?
GOD so love us, then HE had will to create us.
All the men have their chests covered, except this young lady. Why is that?
This is materialism being challenged. All is needed is a simple analogy from a young man to bring it to dust. I pity that woman and her colleague.
For example an AI or robot does not have a will because it is not a living being.
Changes or movement only occur due to action.
Existence cannot exist without the will of a being, like how a person cannot move without his will.
Try moving without wanting to or trying to or willing to, If you can then I will be thoroughly impressed.
The wind moves due a chain that the universe creates, and who willed the universe into being? God.
It's not hard to understand, without an action an occurrence cannot happen.
Nothing never existed it was always everything and everywhere.
An easy way to understand is to think of this conversation itself. Before the conversation began, everyone here was still present, they just never conversed, the universe might not have existed at some point but it was always there, God just didn't will it into being yet.
You just have to love this Muslims. Overnight, they become neuroscientists, cosmologist, and biologists in 24 hour span, and he seems so smug in his ignorance.