These fake striders too me honestly seem like they Kick ass for 80$. Even if the steel is some 440 variant and not d2 they are still a killer deal. Mine should be here tomorrow and I'll do a comparison video against my real smf. Thanks for the vid. I'm excited about my fake now.
looks to me like strider better start making a better knife if he's going to charge 5 times the cost of the fake... all I care about is fit and function and the things you show are petty at best....
Cain Knives too bad your mother wasn’t pro choice, you don’t use a knife as a tool you collect...you should stick to beanie babies and stamps fuck boy.
I've got a Strider SNG clone. I bought it in the full knowledge that it was a clone and it was advertised as a clone. Here in the UK a real SNG is £587.95 ($781.09). My clone cost me £35.00 ($46.50) and is fantastic. If genuine Striders were nearer £250-£300 I wouldn't hesitate to purchase, but I've got Cold Steels that will do everything that Strider will do at a tenth of the price. I love my Strider clone (even the blade steel holds up against my S30v PM2) and if I come accross an SMF clone for a similar price, I'll bite the seller's hand off..!!!!
A lot of the items he pointed out as different are actually things that changed on new Striders. The beveled lock bar and logo, blade steel on blade, etc.
Very informative and interesting! Like buying any high end product there will always be dishonest people trying to rip you off. You have to do your research and buy from a source you trust. Sometimes I find it's better to walk away if the deal does not seem 100%. I adore my knives and spend a lot on them, but I can't afford to throw money away on fake crap. Any info like that, please keep it coming as the only way to stop these 'fakes' is to educate people to stop buying them!! Cheers.....
Thanks for doing this review and commenting TT. I admit, I purchase clones, but for one reason only, as a 'try before I buy'. Even though they are not an exact replica in size and quality, it gives me a good idea of ergonomics and feel so I can decide if I want to spend the top dollar ($300-$700 or more for custom) for the authentic. I have purchased some higher end pieces in the past that I just don't like when in hand and spent good money for something I will give away or never use. I dont care to support knock offs (I dont buy any pieces that try to pass off as the real thing, only the 'like' or 'similar to' truthful builders/sellers, but for $20-$50 they do provide a small piece of mind before shelling out my hard earned dollar for something I may not like. Absolutely, I do prefer to support local craftsman as I am one myself but also care about value for money and use. Cheers.
Excellent video. I was admittedly very tempted to get a fake as there's no way I am getting the real deal. However,watching this has turned me off the copy. Seeing how it's really constructed and the materials used by someone who is obviously very familiar with knife construction is very helpful. I bet Mick appreciated it too. I think if I really want a hard use knife that is more affordable,I'll stick with ZT, Spyderco,Benchmade etc. I love my 560 ZT.
Great work bro, i have huge respect for you and your work. My thing and there might be others out there same reason, i would love to have a real Strider or serveral real Striders, but i have two kids one with special needs, and just cant, but i have seen some really nice clones for less that $35 so for me i would atleast like to have one that might be a decent blade and atleast have one that looks close to the real thing, prob the closest i will ever be to owning anything that say Strider on it. Is it wrong yeah i dont think that should clone them and put someone else brand on it but hey what can you do. It happens...
Thanks for doing this video! I had some doubts in the back of my mind, but I'm completely sure I've got a real one now! It's so disappointing to see such higher end knives like CRK and Hinderers starting to get copied now too.
@djSpinege Well suing someone over making something that looks similar to something you make it not necessarily a straightforward matter. The various features of Strider designs may or may not be protected by patent, trademark, trade dress etc The main thing though is that most of the fakes like this come out of China. Suing people in an entirely different country is even more work than suing someone normally.
Great video! Love the fire test :P There are plenty of good knives on the market for $80 bucks. Knives that will work. I'd rather buy any of those. Part of buying a Strider is the mystique and the bulletproof warranty. You don't get that with these. Think I'd just go with a cold steel if I wanted an inexpensive hard use blade.
Thanks for the vid bro really enjoy your vids an pimp work brother keep up the good work an that was cool of chosen7x7 for lettin u do that so thanks chosen7x7 to
Not everybody has 500 bucks to spend on a knife and I'm sorry but there is no way it's costing that much to produce a Strider and other than the name on the clones which I do think is wrong for the money a clone is not a bad knife. Clones are never going to hurt a company that much if any because the people that buy these knives are never going to buy a real one for they're own reasons. I'm sure strider is making plenty of money everybody seems to have them clones are never going to hurt them. People that want real striders buy real ones and people that want a strider but don't want to pay 500 hundred dollars for one buy clones !!!
I don't think you realize quality and precision machining costs. THAT is where your money is going. Along with tight tolerances and a fantastic warranty.
Chinese Strider is better than my real Strider, after months of abuse and knocking the shit out of it, it still locks up tight with no blade play, my Real Strider has had pivot and blade play problems after 3 months, bought 5 of these thinking I might need them still on first one and it lasted after what I put it through the other 4 will live in safe, as for me giving my money to the Chinese I do not think it is any worse than giving to a felon, and I am getting 4 for the price of one.
Oh, and the logo differences aren't reliable indicators either, there are variations on real striders too. The blade base looks like a good easy identifier though, and its visible with the knife closed, great job ID'ing that!
The best giveaway so far is the g10. All the fakes ive seen have really crappy g10, look at the one in jdavis882s vid. Both of mine have the really agressive kind. And the striping on the blades and the ti (if the fake even is ti, xiuxiu1313 suggested it may be aluminum since it wears out so quick) is different on some. The tiger stripes look painted on, and the flaming is looser like the older kind, but sloppier.
I got 3 of those fakes, and have to say that work just fine,,,I have 2 Tops knives which both failed on me (tip of the knife broke), 1 extrema ratio folder which turned very loose like after 1 month....(ok, not a big deal, but for the price)... and talking about the shitty steel and the shitty titanium, it works just fine, 20 years ago we only had wooden handles and it also worked fine !!!? i agree that sometimes they are little details that could have been worked out better (like the screws), but for the rest those knives are top quality compare to some other 250$ folders.... I lived about 10 years in Shanghai and noticed 1 thing, 1 big thing !!!!! if you're gonna pay 500$ for something you gonna think it's top notch, if you're gonna pay 50$ you gonna think it's crap,,,,!!! meanwhile it has been produced (sometimes, not the striders) in the same factory....trust me, i saw this a lot having been selling many goods from china....So i just raised the price of my goods just to make people happy.... Just admit that those are good knives for 400 chinese RMB !!! the only bad thing about all this is maybe that people getting de-incouraged to making new things...yes it's true, i agree... Maybe they should start making them own brand of knives... OK sorry for my bad english...
The thumb stud on the fake ones is made out of 2 different pieces joint in the middle...i know because one of them broke on mine. The hole is actually smaller then the studs too. The 2 pieces are screwed into each other through the hole. I got what i payed for !
thx chosen. that was awesome when you torched the frame on the fake one. i just had to know. its like they mixed titanium chunks with steel. is it magnetic?
Hey Geoff you can't go by the flying penis logo. I have 2 real ones and they both look different. They also one has more detail in the feathers than the other amoung other things.
My strider sng has an emblem with lines in the feathers and also detail on the blade.... I bought it from true north knives ... my hinder stop disk also looks like a ufo...its identical to the one on the fake one .
I have a fake SNG that is even closer looking to the real deal than the one you have. The contact surface on the tang of the blade is the same as a real blade, the G10 spacer is full length and has the bump for the notch of the blade to rest on, the inserts that the screws fasten into don't pop out, the top of the blade and the liners have the same amount of jimping, the cut in is the same on the locking mechanism, and like the one you showed above, it has Strider stamp on one side of the blade. The big indicator that it is a fake is the fact that the G10 side has the Gunner Grip pattern, but the liner is plain, where on my real SNG, it has the Gunner Grip pattern on both sides. Other than that, the only other indicators that it is a fake are that it has two thin bushings on each side of the blade, as opposed to one thicker bushing on each side, and the emblem on the base of the blade is slightly different (no detail on the handle of the printed knife, but the feathers are detailed).
just because 1 clone doesnt have titanium doesnt mean they all dont. Thats like saying because my toyota 4 runner is green that people dont own a black one. Clones come in all shapes sizes and qualities. And it has been proven that many of these clones do in fact use the materials they claim to use.
Fred Fleurant I do neither. I do acquire them for study purposes and to learn about them. I then will make some videos about them. I don't like counterfeiting. But I realize it is a part of our world and to help combat it you have to understand it. And to understand it you have to familiarize yourself with it and study it. I would much prefer china not replicate company logos. That really does bother me. But I am not going to pass on the opportunity to examine something because it uses a manufacturer mark falsely. So while I don't have any profit or benefit to my position I think those who have experience with these knives are in a better position to speak about them. Not that you don't have a right to your opinion. But when you consider that many clone manufacturers also have legitimate operations which are funded by the production of clones the materials used will be utilized in both lines.
Kinda knew which was the fake just by sight. On the fake, the blade grind is way off, If its not a full flat ground then the hollow grind shouldn't go that far up. On my M4 the hollow grind leaves a thicker swedge of steel, by this I mean it isn't ground up past the hole, which in the fake it is.
The pocket clip was titanium also you just almost melted it taking it to 1400+ degrees that thin its diffinitly ruined now its hardness and the ability to retain shape is gone
I know this is an old video, but the comment is still true. What's the point of doing a side by side (fake vs. real) and making comments like "the real one is fatter" or "the G10 on the real one is grippier" as if someone trying to buy one is going to have one already in their pocket to lay down for the comparison. Tell us what we can detect WITHOUT having a known real one as the benchmark, then you've really told us something useful.
The fake looks just as good as the real one. And this was 8 years ago. My clone strider is even better. Blade made from com s35vn, full titanium handle, machining is flawless, better than the real Strider I use to own, and best part it's 8 times cheaper. It's not Chinese who are ripping people off, it's these American companies that charge insane amount of money for a knife($500-$1000) that costs them less than 20 dollars to produce while they pay 15 cents an hour to some Chinese kid to make their knives n China. By the way where do you think we get our titanium from. Yea China, the largest manufacturer of titanium in the world, followed by Russia. So it's the same titanium 6al 4v, or Tc4 what the Chinese call it. Oh and that's not how u anodize titanium. You use electric current, while the titanium piece is submerged in water solution of sodium/baking soda. The amount of current u pass will dictate the color you get. Hitting any piece of titanium or steel with a torch you actually weaken the metal structure by making it soft prone to scratching and deformation. That's why you never hand your knives to a "friend" when they have no idea what they are doing.
Comparing sizes or quality of certain components doesn't really work because unfortunately there are tons of different companies making the clones and all of them couldn't possibly be exactly the same. Plus I've seen many videos of supposed real Striders which had several differences from each other
I was really worried for a second bladehq sent me a fake somehow, cause the new ones are very consistant with the fake in jdavis882s vid. But the fact a dealer sent it to me makes it next to impossible its a fake. Plus the finishes are accurate, and mine holds an edge very well, doubt the chinese one would. So the logo is different on new striders than the one you have, and they have smaller thumbholes.
If only these illicit manufacturer's had named the products BURGER and avoided STRIDER trademarks...I think I would buy one out of spite, given the court cases on Mickey Burger. Not the cheap clone...but a nice one with Ti and D2.
TUFF, here is the specs on the fake: Length: 22.5 CM Folding length: 12.8cm Handle length:12.8cm Blade length: 10CM Blade thickness: 0.48CM Blade Steel: D2 Blade surface: stonewashed Handle: TC4+G10 Hardness:59-61HRC ..........you should see his sabenzas
flame anodizing is addictive.....i have to control myself or else all my Taichung Spydercos with Ti locksides would be bronze purple and blue.....i'm thinking about it right now....
fakes blow my mind. this might be a stupid question, but. why doesn't Strider track down where these things are coming from exactly and sue the living shit out of em.
i bot 3 counterfeit sng about 17.00-26.00 ea i compared em to my real smf which is bigger the counterfeits had a smoother finish on the handles and blades
the companies so far as i can tell don't care about the Chinese companies .its the people that threw so much money down on a knife that should be $ 50.00 -$100.00 at most . i bet they think the Chinese are free advertising .like anti smokers are for tobacco companies .every time the anti smoking commercial comes on more people light up .
Be careful with that statement. A lot of knife companies make knives for the US military. I personally see the Benchmade AFO and the Gerber 06 issued to many of the folks I am out with. I do like Striders and believe they do fit that nice nitch of tankish folders, but don't buy them soley on the heresay that they are a "military" knife.
the clip is stainless steel the scale is titanium you can get a 440 c or d2 blade i can give you a website to check out if you want to see the website pm me
@Kylef7735 ya,that was my guess. thanks for clearing that up for me. stuff like this really sets our cultures apart... so hard to have respect for china with all this deceiving BS.
These fake striders too me honestly seem like they Kick ass for 80$. Even if the steel is some 440 variant and not d2 they are still a killer deal. Mine should be here tomorrow and I'll do a comparison video against my real smf. Thanks for the vid. I'm excited about my fake now.
Man i got to say I'm Sold on the fake
For a fake it's pretty darn close to the real thing!! and the frame is TI... $75 not bad not bad at all!!!!
The newer clones are even more accurate, most are rather plain though, they'd rather not put the effort into the tiger stripe anodizing.
That cutaway in the lockbar was the best piece of advice that I had not seen before. Great vid.
looks to me like strider better start making a better knife if he's going to charge 5 times the cost of the fake... all I care about is fit and function and the things you show are petty at best....
Cain Knives too bad your mother wasn’t pro choice, you don’t use a knife as a tool you collect...you should stick to beanie babies and stamps fuck boy.
@@irishsavage8715 who collects knives they are tools not toys smh
I've got a Strider SNG clone. I bought it in the full knowledge that it was a clone and it was advertised as a clone. Here in the UK a real SNG is £587.95 ($781.09). My clone cost me £35.00 ($46.50) and is fantastic. If genuine Striders were nearer £250-£300 I wouldn't hesitate to purchase, but I've got Cold Steels that will do everything that Strider will do at a tenth of the price. I love my Strider clone (even the blade steel holds up against my S30v PM2) and if I come accross an SMF clone for a similar price, I'll bite the seller's hand off..!!!!
A lot of the items he pointed out as different are actually things that changed on new Striders. The beveled lock bar and logo, blade steel on blade, etc.
Very informative and interesting! Like buying any high end product there will always be dishonest people trying to rip you off. You have to do your research and buy from a source you trust. Sometimes I find it's better to walk away if the deal does not seem 100%. I adore my knives and spend a lot on them, but I can't afford to throw money away on fake crap. Any info like that, please keep it coming as the only way to stop these 'fakes' is to educate people to stop buying them!! Cheers.....
Extremely informative. Thank you man. I just came up on a decent deal from Ebay and wanted to ensure it was the real deal. Much appreciated.
"knife maker grade titanium" lol
"low grade titanium"
Thanks for doing this review and commenting TT. I admit, I purchase clones, but for one reason only, as a 'try before I buy'. Even though they are not an exact replica in size and quality, it gives me a good idea of ergonomics and feel so I can decide if I want to spend the top dollar ($300-$700 or more for custom) for the authentic. I have purchased some higher end pieces in the past that I just don't like when in hand and spent good money for something I will give away or never use. I dont care to support knock offs (I dont buy any pieces that try to pass off as the real thing, only the 'like' or 'similar to' truthful builders/sellers, but for $20-$50 they do provide a small piece of mind before shelling out my hard earned dollar for something I may not like. Absolutely, I do prefer to support local craftsman as I am one myself but also care about value for money and use.
Cheers.
Same here
The fake strider looks better in my opinion
Excellent video. I was admittedly very tempted to get a fake as there's no way I am getting the real deal. However,watching this has turned me off the copy. Seeing how it's really constructed and the materials used by someone who is obviously very familiar with knife construction is very helpful. I bet Mick appreciated it too. I think if I really want a hard use knife that is more affordable,I'll stick with ZT, Spyderco,Benchmade etc. I love my 560 ZT.
Great work bro, i have huge respect for you and your work. My thing and there might be others out there same reason, i would love to have a real Strider or serveral real Striders, but i have two kids one with special needs, and just cant, but i have seen some really nice clones for less that $35 so for me i would atleast like to have one that might be a decent blade and atleast have one that looks close to the real thing, prob the closest i will ever be to owning anything that say Strider on it. Is it wrong yeah i dont think that should clone them and put someone else brand on it but hey what can you do. It happens...
Thanks for doing this video! I had some doubts in the back of my mind, but I'm completely sure I've got a real one now! It's so disappointing to see such higher end knives like CRK and Hinderers starting to get copied now too.
Did not see if this was already mentioned, but the hex key for the pivot screw is a metric 5.5 mm.
The fake Strider looked better. In special the screws on the back. On the Original the screws were too deep in the handle. Just my opinion.
For the Hinderer lock stop, on the lego Striders its always flat, and for CC or GG Striders its always a cone one.
so, I ned to pay 400$ more for some milled out thumb groove to make disengaging the lock easier?
@djSpinege Well suing someone over making something that looks similar to something you make it not necessarily a straightforward matter. The various features of Strider designs may or may not be protected by patent, trademark, trade dress etc The main thing though is that most of the fakes like this come out of China. Suing people in an entirely different country is even more work than suing someone normally.
Where can I buy a fake one like this? I'd much rather buy a fake than spend an arm and a leg.
Great video! Love the fire test :P
There are plenty of good knives on the market for $80 bucks. Knives that will work. I'd rather buy any of those. Part of buying a Strider is the mystique and the bulletproof warranty. You don't get that with these. Think I'd just go with a cold steel if I wanted an inexpensive hard use blade.
No one has a magnet to test if its titanium? Not to mention, the weight. Plus there are 2 versions $20 is steel and the $60 is tc4 titanium.
Mark Gray and the People who buy and make them should do the world a favor and contract AIDS
Thanks for the vid bro really enjoy your vids an pimp work brother keep up the good work an that was cool of chosen7x7 for lettin u do that so thanks chosen7x7 to
Not everybody has 500 bucks to spend on a knife and I'm sorry but there is no way it's costing that much to produce a Strider and other than the name on the clones which I do think is wrong for the money a clone is not a bad knife. Clones are never going to hurt a company that much if any because the people that buy these knives are never going to buy a real one for they're own reasons. I'm sure strider is making plenty of money everybody seems to have them clones are never going to hurt them. People that want real striders buy real ones and people that want a strider but don't want to pay 500 hundred dollars for one buy clones !!!
I don't think you realize quality and precision machining costs. THAT is where your money is going. Along with tight tolerances and a fantastic warranty.
Chinese Strider is better than my real Strider, after months of abuse and knocking the shit out of it, it still locks up tight with no blade play, my Real Strider has had pivot and blade play problems after 3 months, bought 5 of these thinking I might need them still on first one and it lasted after what I put it through the other 4 will live in safe, as for me giving my money to the Chinese I do not think it is any worse than giving to a felon, and I am getting 4 for the price of one.
@SrJoben Thanks, Sir Joben. that's a really good answer.
Oh, and the logo differences aren't reliable indicators either, there are variations on real striders too.
The blade base looks like a good easy identifier though, and its visible with the knife closed, great job ID'ing that!
the pattern on the strider females that keeps them in the g10/titanium is called knurling not rivets
The speckles are because it's been stonewashed.
Thanks for video. Just what i was looking for. Mine looks pretty real. 30v USA stamp must be new i guessing.
Thank you for sharing this vid, very informative..!
The best giveaway so far is the g10. All the fakes ive seen have really crappy g10, look at the one in jdavis882s vid. Both of mine have the really agressive kind. And the striping on the blades and the ti (if the fake even is ti, xiuxiu1313 suggested it may be aluminum since it wears out so quick) is different on some. The tiger stripes look painted on, and the flaming is looser like the older kind, but sloppier.
I got 3 of those fakes, and have to say that work just fine,,,I have 2 Tops knives which both failed on me (tip of the knife broke), 1 extrema ratio folder which turned very loose like after 1 month....(ok, not a big deal, but for the price)...
and talking about the shitty steel and the shitty titanium, it works just fine, 20 years ago we only had wooden handles and it also worked fine !!!? i agree that sometimes they are little details that could have been worked out better (like the screws), but for the rest those knives are top quality compare to some other 250$ folders....
I lived about 10 years in Shanghai and noticed 1 thing, 1 big thing !!!!! if you're gonna pay 500$ for something you gonna think it's top notch, if you're gonna pay 50$ you gonna think it's crap,,,,!!! meanwhile it has been produced (sometimes, not the striders) in the same factory....trust me, i saw this a lot having been selling many goods from china....So i just raised the price of my goods just to make people happy....
Just admit that those are good knives for 400 chinese RMB !!!
the only bad thing about all this is maybe that people getting de-incouraged to making new things...yes it's true, i agree...
Maybe they should start making them own brand of knives...
OK sorry for my bad english...
ding! u have 1 new subscriber lol
fake striders are really spot on...
Great vid bro. Very usefull knowledge when looking for a real Strider.
Thanks for the help man, I'm a little worried about the one i have in the mail now though
I've seen many real SNG CCs that have that slightly cone shaped hinderer lock from your fake.
The thumb stud on the fake ones is made out of 2 different pieces joint in the middle...i know because one of them broke on mine. The hole is actually smaller then the studs too. The 2 pieces are screwed into each other through the hole.
I got what i payed for !
thx chosen. that was awesome when you torched the frame on the fake one. i just had to know. its like they mixed titanium chunks with steel. is it magnetic?
Can you take a magnet to the fakes scale? Titanium isn't magnetic.
@djSpinege Cant sue someone in another country, and these are more than likely not made here.
Hey Geoff you can't go by the flying penis logo. I have 2 real ones and they both look different. They also one has more detail in the feathers than the other amoung other things.
My strider sng has an emblem with lines in the feathers and also detail on the blade.... I bought it from true north knives ... my hinder stop disk also looks like a ufo...its identical to the one on the fake one .
@PavlovSandor wen you wanna mix titanium with other steels you need exposives i believe and i doubt they did that on the fake one.
I ordered mine from aliexpress it's china made. Same exact one you had in the video. In all honesty they seem impressive lmao.
I have a fake SNG that is even closer looking to the real deal than the one you have. The contact surface on the tang of the blade is the same as a real blade, the G10 spacer is full length and has the bump for the notch of the blade to rest on, the inserts that the screws fasten into don't pop out, the top of the blade and the liners have the same amount of jimping, the cut in is the same on the locking mechanism, and like the one you showed above, it has Strider stamp on one side of the blade.
The big indicator that it is a fake is the fact that the G10 side has the Gunner Grip pattern, but the liner is plain, where on my real SNG, it has the Gunner Grip pattern on both sides. Other than that, the only other indicators that it is a fake are that it has two thin bushings on each side of the blade, as opposed to one thicker bushing on each side, and the emblem on the base of the blade is slightly different (no detail on the handle of the printed knife, but the feathers are detailed).
What size of Torque bit are you using for the body screws? Thanks.
good stuff man!learned a ton!
the fake ones lock tang is probably a better design, its similar to a sebbie
Great vid!! Thanks for taking the time..
just because 1 clone doesnt have titanium doesnt mean they all dont. Thats like saying because my toyota 4 runner is green that people dont own a black one. Clones come in all shapes sizes and qualities. And it has been proven that many of these clones do in fact use the materials they claim to use.
Ahha... Juding by your name I'd say it suggests that you produce or sell fake.
Fred Fleurant I do neither. I do acquire them for study purposes and to learn about them. I then will make some videos about them. I don't like counterfeiting. But I realize it is a part of our world and to help combat it you have to understand it. And to understand it you have to familiarize yourself with it and study it. I would much prefer china not replicate company logos. That really does bother me. But I am not going to pass on the opportunity to examine something because it uses a manufacturer mark falsely. So while I don't have any profit or benefit to my position I think those who have experience with these knives are in a better position to speak about them. Not that you don't have a right to your opinion. But when you consider that many clone manufacturers also have legitimate operations which are funded by the production of clones the materials used will be utilized in both lines.
+China's High End EDC My bad man, didn't wanna come off as offensive or anything. Keep doing what you enjoy man, have a great day!
Kinda knew which was the fake just by sight. On the fake, the blade grind is way off, If its not a full flat ground then the hollow grind shouldn't go that far up. On my M4 the hollow grind leaves a thicker swedge of steel, by this I mean it isn't ground up past the hole, which in the fake it is.
The pocket clip was titanium also you just almost melted it taking it to 1400+ degrees that thin its diffinitly ruined now its hardness and the ability to retain shape is gone
Real nice comparison.
@tuffthumbz
but lighting shit on fire is a heck of a lot cooler than a stupid magnet :P
i see them for sale on aliexpress, one of the fakes costs 55 bucks, one like in your vid.
before i started the vid i guessed the fake was on the bottom.. fail. lol! cool vid bro!
Who is issued a strider in the military?
Marine Corps...and selective battalions and regiments throughout the armed forces.
@tuffthumbz Its made by MG knife company, they say its made of D2 and tc4 titanium
low grade right .tc4 is what they use .
On the website these are from they claim it's tc4 which is some kind of titanium alloy
The difference is YOU are getting ripped off when you get the clone !
@pietermoore who makes them?
holy shit, Strider makes knives for the U.S. Military?! Screw the deal on the fakes, i'm only gonna buy the real shit.
the real one is over torque to tight ?
I know this is an old video, but the comment is still true. What's the point of doing a side by side (fake vs. real) and making comments like "the real one is fatter" or "the G10 on the real one is grippier" as if someone trying to buy one is going to have one already in their pocket to lay down for the comparison. Tell us what we can detect WITHOUT having a known real one as the benchmark, then you've really told us something useful.
heating titanium to change its color is not anodizing
The fake looks just as good as the real one. And this was 8 years ago. My clone strider is even better. Blade made from com s35vn, full titanium handle, machining is flawless, better than the real Strider I use to own, and best part it's 8 times cheaper. It's not Chinese who are ripping people off, it's these American companies that charge insane amount of money for a knife($500-$1000) that costs them less than 20 dollars to produce while they pay 15 cents an hour to some Chinese kid to make their knives n China. By the way where do you think we get our titanium from. Yea China, the largest manufacturer of titanium in the world, followed by Russia. So it's the same titanium 6al 4v, or Tc4 what the Chinese call it. Oh and that's not how u anodize titanium. You use electric current, while the titanium piece is submerged in water solution of sodium/baking soda. The amount of current u pass will dictate the color you get. Hitting any piece of titanium or steel with a torch you actually weaken the metal structure by making it soft prone to scratching and deformation. That's why you never hand your knives to a "friend" when they have no idea what they are doing.
Thank you for the video
I think i would have the cloan just because if i had a real one i would never use it it would be a show knive
MATT MAIDEN what the fuck is a show knife??? You are stealing from Americans when you buy that shit.
wouldnt aluminum still not stick though?
Comparing sizes or quality of certain components doesn't really work because unfortunately there are tons of different companies making the clones and all of them couldn't possibly be exactly the same. Plus I've seen many videos of supposed real Striders which had several differences from each other
I was really worried for a second bladehq sent me a fake somehow, cause the new ones are very consistant with the fake in jdavis882s vid. But the fact a dealer sent it to me makes it next to impossible its a fake. Plus the finishes are accurate, and mine holds an edge very well, doubt the chinese one would. So the logo is different on new striders than the one you have, and they have smaller thumbholes.
what military gets issued striders .
Where can i get a fake strider? I want a Buck Tarani Strider but they are discontinued. This is the next best thing.
If only these illicit manufacturer's had named the products BURGER and avoided STRIDER trademarks...I think I would buy one out of spite, given the court cases on Mickey Burger. Not the cheap clone...but a nice one with Ti and D2.
My smf stamp looks different from yours, it looks no like the fake, but I bought mine from an authorized local dealer so there's no way it's fake
TUFF, here is the specs on the fake:
Length: 22.5 CM
Folding length: 12.8cm
Handle length:12.8cm
Blade length: 10CM
Blade thickness: 0.48CM
Blade Steel: D2
Blade surface: stonewashed
Handle: TC4+G10
Hardness:59-61HRC ..........you should see his sabenzas
flame anodizing is addictive.....i have to control myself or else all my Taichung Spydercos with Ti locksides would be bronze purple and blue.....i'm thinking about it right now....
Electolosis anodizing is easy and more consistant
@1snowreaper Yes!
You should anodize the whole framelock side on the fake one!
Great vid, don't mix up the parts lol!
very cool man thanks
fake striders come in many diffrent steels i have seen them come in: AUS8A-8Cr13Mov-440 and 420- and even Vg10.
@aeipee13 true. good point. sorry.
fakes blow my mind. this might be a stupid question, but. why doesn't Strider track down where these things are coming from exactly and sue the living shit out of em.
i bot 3 counterfeit sng about 17.00-26.00 ea
i compared em to my real smf which is bigger the counterfeits had a smoother finish on the handles and blades
Maybe the fake framelock is more of an alloy?
the companies so far as i can tell don't care about the Chinese companies .its the people that threw so much money down on a knife that should be $ 50.00 -$100.00 at most .
i bet they think the Chinese are free advertising .like anti smokers are for tobacco companies .every time the anti smoking commercial comes on more people light up .
I believe most base Striders are S30V
Be careful with that statement. A lot of knife companies make knives for the US military. I personally see the Benchmade AFO and the Gerber 06 issued to many of the folks I am out with. I do like Striders and believe they do fit that nice nitch of tankish folders, but don't buy them soley on the heresay that they are a "military" knife.
You can use a magnet to see if it is titanium
the clip is stainless steel the scale is titanium you can get a 440 c or d2 blade i can give you a website to check out if you want to see the website pm me
At the begenning of the video i paused it to see if i could spot the real one, and i got it right :D I feel special. :)
Is strider still in business today??
@Kylef7735 ya,that was my guess. thanks for clearing that up for me. stuff like this really sets our cultures apart... so hard to have respect for china with all this deceiving BS.
CC's have a rounded stabilizer
Favorited fo sho!