The TRUTH About Tinnitus & Hearing Loss for Audio Engineers

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  • @hardcoremusicstudio
    @hardcoremusicstudio  3 місяці тому +2

    Looking for help with tinnitus? Some of our followers have had good results from a new program called AudioCardio. Check it out here: audiocardio.com/?via=jordan

  • @kalebtreacy9493
    @kalebtreacy9493 3 місяці тому +10

    I'm so glad you guys are calling out this topic. I myself struggled to deal with the possible fallout with future clients regarding this - I was 22 & finishing my studies while building my studio when I got the flu and became deaf overnight. These days I have 1 deaf ear & one that fluctuates (10 years later) but I'm finding that my work is the best I've ever done and I've never been busier. It's important to have a good ear for sure but there are always routes we can take to help us succeed if we want to believe in ourselves

    • @stuk180able
      @stuk180able 3 місяці тому +4

      That's awesome to hear! I couldn't imagine how scary that must have been for you, so glad you're doing well with it!!

  • @DrProgNerd
    @DrProgNerd 3 місяці тому +27

    I'm 55, played in bands for decades, and have had constant tinnitus for about 15 years.
    When I was a kid my dad would harp on me about earplugs. I never listened. Now I tell younger players, "Earplugs." Yeah....most of them don't listen either. You don't get another set of ears. Take care of them.

    • @stepeters
      @stepeters 3 місяці тому +2

      ^ This. I'm 54, similar situation to yourself but I also worked in stamping / pressing factories. I've had tinnitus in both ears for well over 25 years. I learn to live with it but sometimes it does get me down.

  • @iAmSpyNz
    @iAmSpyNz 3 місяці тому +4

    3-4 years back I got significant hearing loss in my right ear. No damage, no over exposure, we don’t know how it happened. got a roll off from 1k to 8k and above of -70 dbHL (there’s more to it but would be too long). Very emotional moment for me of course but the next projet I produced and mixed was my best work yet.
    Just mentioning this so that if someone out there is doubting their abilities or future, there’s ways around it and you can still do what you enjoy!

  • @gogreyhoundmusic
    @gogreyhoundmusic 3 місяці тому +5

    Man this is so nice to see.
    I have a tight relationship with my audiologist. Might right ear is basically dead above 8k and my left is good up to about 12k - and I always feel SO self conscious about it when I'm talking about a mix or any sort of nerdy engineer shit with another engineer. Hopefully more people see this and we can open up the convo in the community.

  • @mikebooth9619
    @mikebooth9619 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent honest and relaxed explanation. I have tinnitus from bands and all the rest and my ears clock in over 76 1/2 years old (just like the rest of my body) and, while I know there are things I can't hear (big dropoff at 7K), there are things I can feel and things I can see with the right tools. And it always helps to have younger, healthier ears to bounce rough mixes off of to check yourself. I'm living proof that you're never too old to do this.

  • @rolandoastudillojara3054
    @rolandoastudillojara3054 3 місяці тому +2

    I really appreciate this video, I studied sound and made a career in live events only, for about 5 years I have been dealing with constant tinnitus and in my right ear a pulsating tinnitus, this affected both my confidence and my mental health, and I stopped working like this and I dedicated myself to taking only mixing and beat production jobs in my home studio. This is something that no one talks about professionally, not even the big brands care about having tools for hearing protection, (Shure, Senhheiser, etc.) I did use protection for a long time, but I didn't do it all the time, but oh well It's no use complaining about what I didn't do, now I take great care of my ears and those of my children too. A hug from Chile

  • @johnnyfuller1747
    @johnnyfuller1747 3 місяці тому +2

    Man, this was such a good presentation. Love your explanation about 'perfect' hearing! Thanks you for presenting this 😉

  • @happyband100
    @happyband100 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you so much for your perceptions.......I am 80 years old and continue to record/mix and do live events.....I cannot hear above 5 or 6K but I certainly know when the sound is bad or even screechy. The audience rarely complains about missing high frequencies. They want to hear the bass, drums , voices and guitars......all of which has life below 6K........

  • @strakhovmixing
    @strakhovmixing 3 місяці тому +1

    Very useful information, thank you, Roelof!)

  • @NielsJulian
    @NielsJulian 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you so much for your take on this, it's a boost to my moral, have been worrying about this for a while

  • @iamlionelmusic
    @iamlionelmusic 3 місяці тому +1

    🙋‍♂️4k dip in both ears! Thanks for this guys, helps ease anxieties!

  • @philiptalk
    @philiptalk 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for posting this. It makes me hopeful that my hearing loss and tinnitus are not as disabling as I imagined.

  • @wastelandmetal
    @wastelandmetal 3 місяці тому +2

    I've been a professional audio and mixing engineer for 30+ years now. The last 14 or so years of I've had tinnitus and hearing loss to varying degrees in both ears. It takes some time and techniques to work around hearing issues but it can be done. Take care of your ears people, the damage is cumulative and damage done when you're young can show up and get worse when older.

  • @charliekey2979
    @charliekey2979 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for your advice, it's a very valuable information. We need to be aware of hearing loss risk! This was a reminder for me to take breaks and mix at low volumes and maybe crank it loud for only short periods of time to check the balance of my mix. The secret is to make this a habit in your mixing life.

  • @secondriverstudios8964
    @secondriverstudios8964 3 місяці тому +11

    Got my hearing tested before I started chemotherapy, I have a dip in 4K and 3k. I can hear up to about 17k but you’re fine! CLA probably can’t hear past 8k in his age

    • @elviradark6902
      @elviradark6902 3 місяці тому

      How did you figured out about a dip and how do you measure it?

    • @charlesoliviersdufaux6943
      @charlesoliviersdufaux6943 3 місяці тому

      @@elviradark6902send sound in your ear and your have to click a button to confirm that you ear the bip it the white différentes frequency

    • @HijoGris
      @HijoGris 3 місяці тому

      @@elviradark6902go to an audiologist

    • @ricemartini2135
      @ricemartini2135 3 місяці тому

      @@elviradark6902they just stated that they got tested🤣 so… go get tested if you wanna know

    • @roomofidiots
      @roomofidiots 3 місяці тому

      @@elviradark6902go to an audiologist for a test

  • @davidmcdermott8839
    @davidmcdermott8839 3 місяці тому

    Great topic. I’ve worked with building sites, jet aircraft, rifles and rock concerts among others so my ears have taken a pounding. I’m now 55 and the tinnitus is starting to bite. I’d like to continue producing music for many years. Thanks for the reassuring article. 👍

  • @TheGaryHughes
    @TheGaryHughes 3 місяці тому

    I couldn't go to a gig / on stage without ear protection again. Actual game changer

  • @JAMPROSOUND
    @JAMPROSOUND 3 місяці тому +1

    Hearing loss due to exposure has to suck. I was fortunate to have been nuts about protecting mine over the years. On the rare occasion I have experienced any ringing, I've discovered a link between high blood pressure/stress and the ringing. I've had many discussions with my audiologist about my findings and she has done some testing of my theory. She's come back and said she feels there is something to this. I've also had others I know who claimed to have constant tinnitus tell me that when they are able to shut out the world and manage their stress levels, the ringing diminishes notably. I realize this is not the same as exposure induced loss but it may be something that helps some of you who are not sure why you're experiencing it.

  • @adamj.mccloskey7588
    @adamj.mccloskey7588 3 місяці тому

    Definitely agree with everything in this video. However I immediately noticed when you played the chorus that there was 0 ultra top end. Still can enjoy the song for sure but the thought of losing that makes me sad so that's why I always wear earplugs and avoid high spa for long periods

  • @matias871HF
    @matias871HF 3 місяці тому

    excellent video, thanks!

  • @stevendierkes6028
    @stevendierkes6028 3 місяці тому

    Great advice. Thank you

  • @Kainkrup
    @Kainkrup 3 місяці тому

    thanks for the video, I car for my audition always and recently a Ent made me a ear wash and leave with a hearing damage 4 months ago, I recover almost my hear but i have a dip at 6k it's been so hard and I'll apreciate much this video. thanks the only way until exists a cure it's to adapt to situation even it's hard for people with our kind of jobs. Thanks!!

  • @naelbeno6249
    @naelbeno6249 22 дні тому

    This is pure tone hearing test. The real hearing loss u realize in Bars, Restaurants and Noisy Places. A hyperacusis is The beginning of hearing loss.

  • @andyg901
    @andyg901 3 місяці тому

    Great video Roelof. I'm almost deaf on left ear but I do love music. Lately trying to do mixes of my band's music. Isn't it easy since I don't know much what should be panned what not especially, when I only hear on right side :D Anyway, very motivating video :)

  • @jasterthefathyena1843
    @jasterthefathyena1843 3 місяці тому

    Man, as someone who lost like, 85-90% hearing in my right ear at age 6, not to mention tinnitus/high frequency loss in my left ear from younger years in bands and stupid abuse I shoulda' known better (To be fair, I had no idea til my early-mid 20's that custom ear plugs existed... or if they even did exist earlier than that. Damage was already done). I really needed to hear this. One thing that has held me back from perusing this harder and further through the years is a lot of insecurity with my hearing. I've taught myself lil 'workarounds' for the dear right ear thing over the years... but workarounds aren't fixes always. And having a cochlear implant didnt work out yet for reasons either. But people do generally like my tone n mixes.... but still. Hard not have that goblin of doubt shitting on my subconscious still, y'know. Was good to hear this, thanx!

  • @visionswords5477
    @visionswords5477 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for making this video; I have crazy ringing at 14K but as you point out, it's nothing to worry about mixing wise. It's just annoying for me.

  • @THAMNOS
    @THAMNOS 3 місяці тому

    I was actually thinking about this recently. I thought 'what if my ears got damaged and I couldn't hear properly. Am I screwed?'
    This brings me some peace haha.

  • @josuastangl7140
    @josuastangl7140 3 місяці тому +1

    I got my hearing measured 5 years ago and had a smaller dip at 1k and a bigger one between 5 and 7kHz.
    That probably comes from standing next to crash cymbals.
    I still sometimes hear a very quiet tinnitus, which was worse in the past.
    I should probably measure again sometime, as I’ve really taken care of my hearing since then and I’ve heard it can slowly recover a little.

  • @healthiswealth3081
    @healthiswealth3081 3 місяці тому +1

    PRO TIP: Energy drinks / Pre Workout supplements can alter the hearing and cause tinnitus. For me they cause Hyperacusis, muffled vocals, and tinnitus.
    I found that Coffee does not cause any issues for me and may help my hearing for some reason.

  • @Dysjoint
    @Dysjoint 3 місяці тому

    47 and have nothing above 14k. Never looked after my hearing until a few years ago at work and on headphones. Still enjoy making sounds and listening to music, but look after it if you have it!

  • @Yuval_Ronen
    @Yuval_Ronen 3 місяці тому

    I think that it’s important to note that other than protecting your hearing by using earplugs or lowering levels when mixing, it’s also important to get plenty of nutrients in your diet or supplements. Research shows that vitamins A C E and Magnesium can do wonders to help protect your hearing. The reason is that loud noise can cause free radicals to damage the hearing cells, and antioxidants actually help neutralize these free radicals.

  • @BoldSound-f2f
    @BoldSound-f2f 3 місяці тому

    I'm notice that because vocal kind of drowning in the mix and this is not enough loud. And i hear that because one of Jordans mix reviews)) Thansk you are lot, your channel significantly improving my mixing skill and CONFIDENCE by the way.

  • @FallFactor
    @FallFactor 3 місяці тому

    Looking forward to watch this video. FIRST!

  • @Willigrow
    @Willigrow 3 місяці тому

    I have a pretty big dip at 5k and above in my left ear, to the point that it's critical for me to occasionally swap L/R if I use headphones just to keep everything in balance. I don't tell that to anyone, no client ever complained about high end in the mixes I sent them. You just need to find a way around it (in my case L/R swapping) and use reference tracks to compare. But it's crazy how our brain compensates, I usually hardly ever notice this.

  • @jeremythornton433
    @jeremythornton433 3 місяці тому

    My right ear hasn't stopped ringing since a rehearsal in 1997. Ever since then, I've worn hearing protection every time i need it. I also own a recording studio and mix. I just don't playback loud.

  • @tatepaul3947
    @tatepaul3947 3 місяці тому

    Love this video Roelof, nailed it dude! Made me curious when you mentioned custom made earplugs - where did you get them from?

    • @RoelofKlop
      @RoelofKlop 3 місяці тому

      Just the local opticien/audicien shop dude!

  • @kenvives
    @kenvives 3 місяці тому

    I have tinnitus in my right ear, accompanied by mild hearing loss. I’m 99% sure it’s NOT from being at the barrier with the band too loud, but from fans screaming in my ear.
    Many people have a “good” ear and a “bad” one. I just make sure a swap the channels before finalizing anything. Or put my headphones on “backwards”.

  • @Martin-kn6vc
    @Martin-kn6vc 3 місяці тому

    My right ear doesn't have as much clarity as my left. I also can't really hear anything above 12kHz either and I'm 33. My dad's been wearing hearing aids for almost 10 years and he's 67, and my grandma was the same, so hearing loss is probably hereditary in my family. I heard somewhere once that if you keep your brain regularly active through difficult problem-solving tasks/puzzles, you can slow down age-related hearing loss. I'm not sure how true that is, but it makes sense to me.

  • @Diamond_Eyes_24
    @Diamond_Eyes_24 3 місяці тому +1

    Got tinnitus in my early 50s its about 3792 Hertz (used an online tone generator) mostly in my right ear. Have a problem with high hats and other sound info in this range

    • @fuego3517
      @fuego3517 3 місяці тому

      what tone generator did you use?

  • @carbq5280
    @carbq5280 Місяць тому

    Stereo back up vocals have always sounded a little quiet on the R channel compared to the L channel took me a few times of triple checking volume to realize "oh I'm just more deaf on the right side than the left" lol, tests confirm my right ear rolls at 14.6k and my left is good all the way up to 16k or at least the highest UA-cam will play

  • @joefarrar3917
    @joefarrar3917 3 місяці тому

    my man solos above 11k and I can barely hear it. Had to turn my hs8s up a good amount to hear anything lol I feel you man

  • @angermanagementstudios
    @angermanagementstudios 3 місяці тому

    I’ve got a left ear rumble at 90 hz. It’s an absolute bastard. And a little high pitched squeak at about 7k in both ears. I’ve simply learned to live with it. Strangely enough I never even think about it whilst working. It just drives me nuts at bedtime. I’ve got an app that creates a bit of white noise at said frequencies and it masks the tinnitus enough to let me sleep.

  • @mcrekkr
    @mcrekkr 3 місяці тому

    I've had tinnitus for my entire life. It sucks but there's always way around it.

  • @dshredmusic
    @dshredmusic 3 місяці тому

    I actually had a hearing trauma on my right ear at around 4k due to a concert with really really bad sound quality and the fact that I forgot my earplugs at home...
    Doctors initially said there was no way back from it, but I managed to fully recover with gingko biloba 40 mg pills and head thumping exercises... And a whole 2 years using earplugs even at the supermarket lol

  • @h.p.dominocus
    @h.p.dominocus 3 місяці тому

    I have an imbalance where my right ear cannot hear high frequencies while my left ear is painfully sensitive to high frequencies that people around me rarely can hear. A small squeak from a snare tuning lug in another room is overwhelmingly loud to me for instance. Also, whistling,clanking dishes, chewing, drive me mad but only in one ear.

  • @docmcbungas3303
    @docmcbungas3303 Місяць тому +1

    I have found it is not so much the hearing loss which is a problem but the tinnitus as it causes a distraction and makes me really depressed. My mixes have increased substantially in quality since I have had slight hearing loss. I just worry about my sanity from the tinnitus. Stay strong. Hopefully the medical industry will come to realise how much money they could make off us poor souls if they found effective treatments or a cure.

  • @chris-down-under
    @chris-down-under 3 місяці тому

    Thanks heaps for putting this video together, on a topic which I had questions about :-) I have a quick question: when you refer to monitoring SPL levels, should you consider peaks or average level from a sound meter? Also, would you use A or C weighting?

  • @pawelmiechowiecki7901
    @pawelmiechowiecki7901 3 місяці тому

    hehe... the sound in the intro was so adequate

  • @guitars.nmetal
    @guitars.nmetal 3 місяці тому +1

    Im 45 and also got tinnitus, cant hear anything above 10k 🤷

  • @zocc116
    @zocc116 3 місяці тому

    at 6.40-ish nothing? also, mix could do with some brightness. also also, walks in the forest, in the nature rule!

  • @TheLotionInTheBasket
    @TheLotionInTheBasket 3 місяці тому +1

    6:40 i heard nothing... 😪

    • @joefarrar3917
      @joefarrar3917 3 місяці тому

      me too. Don't stress it, I still mix better than 99 percent of humans. maybe not better than 99 percent of mixing engineers lol.

  • @kaislivesoundchannel4706
    @kaislivesoundchannel4706 3 місяці тому

    Al Schmid worked to the end of his life, he was 90 years old. He most likely hadn‘t a lot of high end hearing left.

  • @rockygingerstudio
    @rockygingerstudio 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. I have a question regarding voice mixing. There are multiple videos on the channel that explain mixing a voice, but I was wondering if it would work for any type of vocal or only pop/rock/metal because your channel is only about those. Could it also work for rap as well ?

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 3 місяці тому

    I think a little hearing loss can be good for a record

  • @evilone10
    @evilone10 3 місяці тому

    wow so awkward this video just been released as i just realized my high ends were really to loud in my mixes !
    BTW i was just wondering, having hear loss, is it like having a room with bad acoustics !? Because at the end once you know the problem, you can override that.

  • @jason002YT
    @jason002YT 3 місяці тому +1

    Having hearing loss and then saying know what to listen for. That is an incompatible statement. If you can't hear something, you can't listen for it. A completely deaf person cannot mix music. So if you have hearing loss, your mixes will be affected in the frequencies you cannot hear. Think about it, how could they not? If your hearing loss is not severe, sure, you can still mix a good mix, but your hearing loss is certainly throwing in a bit of a random variable that is not helping you.

    • @PenNichov
      @PenNichov 3 місяці тому

      Well, I think hearing loss of most people is like "colorblind" of the ears. Like, except extreme cases as total deafness, most hearing loss is being unable to hear one, some or a range of sound frequency, just like colorblind people couldn't see one, some or a range of color. And since colorblind people could adapt to do jobs related to art and graphic, same with hearing loss people, they can adapt their listening to do the job.

    • @jason002YT
      @jason002YT 3 місяці тому

      @@PenNichov I like your colorblind analogy as that is very similar to how hearing loss is. Yet, if a color blind person is painting an art piece with brushes with only colors that they are blind in, wouldn't that person not be able to distinguish anything but a single color and therefore be unable to blend the the different colors in a precise way without relying on educated guessing? If yes, then how is it they would adapt their blindness to paint the picture? I have moderate to severe hearing loss in the mid range 1000 to 6000 range, I enjoy composing on guitar and mixing music, but I'm aware of my limitations. I imagine I might be able to mix something pretty good sounding based on good composition, mixing knowledge, and frequency analyzer tools (for sounds I can't hear) etc, but I would always want someone with good hearing to review and edit my work to listen for things that I simply cannot hear for potential improvements to my mix.

  • @ipoponq
    @ipoponq 3 місяці тому +4

    0:01 ugh, don't do that plz. That high pitched tinnitus sine wave was really loud.

    • @SolarPeel
      @SolarPeel 3 місяці тому

      Try living with it

  • @Venomforyall
    @Venomforyall 3 місяці тому

    I can hear 16k, it sounds like garbage a LOT of the time. Don't worry about it, your not missing out on anything important.

  • @charliebryce3783
    @charliebryce3783 3 місяці тому +1

    Chiropractors say that some clients have reported a reduction of tinnitus after they have undergone ear wax removal.

    • @AntonisKoumpari
      @AntonisKoumpari 3 місяці тому +1

      What do chiropractors have to do with ear wax

    • @charliebryce3783
      @charliebryce3783 3 місяці тому

      @@AntonisKoumpari quite right audiologist

  • @JeremiahWept
    @JeremiahWept 3 місяці тому

    Couldnt hear the lyrics tho

  • @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer
    @Zardox-The-Heretic-Slayer 3 місяці тому +2

    I have tinnitus too however my hearing range is abnormally high at 25Khz drop off (higher sometimes) and it may sound like a good thing but it can be an utter nightmare especially with all the switch mode power supplies ringing away

  • @nicholasbstone
    @nicholasbstone 3 місяці тому +1

    Clickbait? I subbed to this channel because I liked the content and thought the content creator seemed to have some good advice. But now, this channel has been subcontracted out. Seems like a bait and switch. Unsubbed and "do not recommend channel" as well.

    • @NielsJulian
      @NielsJulian 3 місяці тому +5

      great that you are gone then

    • @tdismusic57
      @tdismusic57 3 місяці тому +6

      Um...Jordan told all of us a little while ago that it wasn't going to be all him all the time.
      No biggie. He'll only have folks worth the watch.