You can tell he takes things to heart though, despite the self-confidence he earned through his achievements in OW. He cares what other people think but actively forces himself into a understanding and harmonizing mentality.
10:57 1) Swap to Zenyatta 2) Use "Transcendence" 3) Bodyblock your Mercy while she's ressing one of your tanks 4) Win the fight. - Samito's OW guide. -
Funny thing is, he's actually wrong. Mercy gives you a 30% damage boost while discord orb only applies a 25% extra damage debuff to ONE target. So if you used halt into sticky bombs with a Zen, you'd do a total of 225 damage to the target you stuck and 150 splash to the rest of the players pulled. With Mercy you do a total of 234 to the target you stuck and 195 damage to the rest of the players pulled. That extra 45 HP of damage per player pulled and hit with the bombs could be the difference between winning and losing a team fight. Sure, Valk is nowhere near as good as Trans, but you don't have to peel for a Mercy as often as you would have to peel for a Zen. You'd also have to play a lot less aggro and would get a lot less value from each sticky since Zen would need LOS to give you any value. This guy is just wrong all around.
@@Shadalpha I'm pretty sure the Bap was solely looking at it as Valk vs Trans whereas it's more than that. It's like saying no pharah mercy is bad go Pharah Zen. Like bruh..
@@Shadalpha In regards to dmg boost, that's not necessarily true. Since discord is applied to the enemy hero, the second you add dmg from any other source its just better than mercy dmg boost cause its "boosting" more dmg than mercy can ever hope to.
@@Shadalpha Yeah but a rein or hog discorded is much better with a whole team shooting them than one person damage boosted. Nevertheless mercy echo is much much better than echo zen lmao
The problem with that guys argument is that everything he stated only works IN THEORY. Its really hard to apply theory to practice, for example, technically speaking Echo should be able to get off 5 pulse bombs during her ult, and yet in practice its almost impossible to land full clip all headshots to get the pulses bombs 5 times.
He doesn't even consider flanking and shield since echo can ignore shields by going over and around them while zen can't put discord through shields so mercy gets more constant value plus she has 20 more healing per second
Thing is if you can't win against GM players or people higher than your rank, you don't deserve to climb. It's a different story if its a silver/gold vs GM though. If you believe you are a better player then you should be playing against better players.
@@LeniusRiven if that was the case the game by design would pit you against better players and not against those of "similar" skills. If playing against those much better than you is the only way to show you deserve than he should be playing against OWL Pro's only since that's only appropriate. Let's see how u/he reacts after you lose 100's of SR and lots of matches playing against them especially when they are pretending to not be who they are.
@@SheetHorizon21 Thank you! I don't mind smurfs but playing against the #1 echo because "Content" is so annoying. He shouldn't be there at that rank and I'm trying to maintain my rank and get good at that rank not necessarily climb to GM.
It is tilting Smurfs ruin games they are found so much in diamond. They dont care, they feel like they can do or play whatever they like just bcuz its not their main acc. And if you tell them otherwise they tell you theyre gm and start throwing.
yo, guys, we all get passionate and make mistakes but thankfully they don't all get publicized. I know him, and he is an amazing dude, he regrets what he said. Just remember he is also a person and we should follow Samito's example and not fuel the hate. Imagine if you got publically humiliated and had no opportunity to apologize. Show him some love and prove that the internet and Overwatch isn't just a bunch of trash talkers and an endless cycle of hate.
@@natehaskey9300 Tbf in their comment they say, "follow Samito's example and don't feed the mindless toxicity" Sure what he said was pretty bad and I disagree slightly with Samito not everyone says gross stuff like that or has anger issues, but the rest of the comment I think @Kayla L was making pretty good points. And no I don't think this is special treatment either, you shouldn't judge a person off of just one interaction he very well could be a great guy in person and he doesn't have the opportunity to make it up
He only regrets doing it because he got recorded and posted online and Humiliated. The guy was toxic the moment someone disagreed with him. He deserves the hate. Not even 1 minute into the match.
This is actually my best friend who is the star of the show here. He is actually a very nice guy and he DM'd me with this video and was talking about how bad he felt and how he really messed up with how he spoke. Just remember that we all lose control once in a while and this in no way defines him as a person. Much love -Booster (I also disagree and mercy is very good with echo, he hasn't played in a while :smile:)
You are wrong and I would advise you not to think that you know someone from 10 minutes of gameplay. If you don’t believe me, all good, nothing I can change there. Have a good night :)
TBoogy Not my fault that your friend made a bad impression in those ten minutes, he was literally indirectly asking for hate. Also, he DM’d you with this vid, after it was released. So that’s why I think that he only said he feels bad because of the vid, since the reply was centered around the vid abt him trash talking.
@@eatingyourpizza9260 And you are allowed to have that opinion but I am telling you the objective fact as someone who has known him personally for 16 years is that you are wrong. Sorry if you feel that way about him. The video is only the catalyst of the regret, I doubt you remember every time you have insulted someone.
but think about it he calls you braindead like i understand being comp to win games but someone giving their opinion about a style of going at it but you tell him like yea on paper it does make sense but a mercy pocket is much stronger and yet calls you braindead, just image if you werent retired pro players or if people didnt know it was you guaranteed he would still keep on flaming you.
Smurfs can ruin a couple of games, not every game, so it's not like you will find that smurf in every game. You might find him once, twice, three times, just take 1 hour break and you won't find him.
Red while I agree yes they make a “competitive game” not competitive, it isn’t impossible to beat a smurf. The other team literally didn’t do much to counter him. It’s a team game, if you let a smurf carry and beat you, that’s on your team for not playing around them. People who say they’re stuck in a low sr because of smurfs is such a bad excuse and it’s just not true. It is literally 50/50 chance a smurf is on your team unless you are the smurf yourself. This means you’ve easily had games where you got carried by a smurf and so the game and probably didn’t even realize it. Btw Red I’m not trying to direct this towards you specifically it’s just how the reply ended up being, I’m just trying to add to what you said
I actually hate it when people fill coms with unnecessary information like it’s good to hype someone up or to suggest a switch but when your over here performing a court trial on y someone shuld switch or acting like you know everything is just obnoxious I would’ve muted that guy from the first word that came out of his mouth
I wouldn't say he's trying to win if he's suggesting a zen for an echo instead of mercy lmao. Dude is literally hard throwing the second he boots up his computer with such a small brain.
I-Kn-Z bro mercy is gonna contribute more , yeah discrd is essentially the same as dmg boosting but dmg boosting ins’t nullified by a LOS or barrier. Plus Mercy has less weaknesses and Zen gets countered harder.
The problem with his suggestion is that it would only work in theory but not in practice,in theory you should be able to get around 2-3 mccree ults with echo but in practice if you cant aim well you wont be able to get the maximum amount he is also only considering a few scenerios
Theoretically he is right but doing this in game ON LADDER is something different. If he was playing in a 6 man and if the team is well coordinated then it can work out but thats at best case scenario
I love how people are actually communicating in your game even though that match was in diamond. I play on console and only like 1 in 10 games do I get my entire team talking, or even at least 1 or 2 people
Sam was right tho mercy is the better pick to team with Echo picking zen does not make sense. He's calling him brain dead but he has no idea what he's talking about XD
This guy knows the theory not the practice, yes?. Well at the ens of the day there would not have been much of a difference with a zen. He was just trying to give the team what he thought was a good team comp so he could win.
Honestly I kinda agreed with what he said in the beginning until he started being toxic in the first 10 seconds for kinda no reason his explanation was factual but if they wanted echo and mercy they can it doesn’t actually make a big difference I think we can all agree tho that him being toxic so fast was kinda unnecessary when he had a valid point it’s just the team didn’t want to
For the people that don't know, if you are playing against echo as brig and she puts her bombs near the center of your shield don't drop it or they will stick to you but with rein you can drop it and step back avoiding all the damage and saving shield
It’s really cool to see echo gameplay on junkertown because I always thought junkertown was horrible for echo Bc of the long sight lines and the way hit scan counters echo
I have a question, have any of you guys gotten lucky with echo's sticky bombs and focusing beam? Cuz once I got a triple with the bombs and a double with the beam
It’s always you guys that have sunk 1800 hours into the game that are still in plat/diamond that think they know eeeeevvvvveeeerrrryyyything about the game lmao I’m sorry clearly you don’t know how to get a lot of value if you’re that hard stuck.
Has to be the worst argument for why Mercy is trash lmao. Mercy is an amazing combo with Echo, has superior movement to Zen, and has the ability to res a teammate which can win fights. And her heals are the best in game.
No, mercy echo is always better option. Zen heals can get outdamaged way easier and mercy pocket lets you take riskier 1v1's with almost no punishability
Excuse me, isn't Zenyatta's Discord orb somewhat weaker compared to Mercy's damage boost now? I honestly don't remember which patch it came in, or if it got changed back to its old value, but didn't Blizzard's Overwatch team nerf Zenyatta's Discord orb to only increase damage received by an enemy by 25% rather than 30%? I believe that Mercy's damage boost is 30% more damage done, but I haven't carefully checked recent patches for changes to that value, if there are any changes.
they're just salty honestly. If he tells Samito that. He should tell 9/10 of the smurfs in diamond that as well ( im in diamond and come across ALOT of gm smurfs) it happens, its part of overwatch
@@CalebWest-xf6dv Hi, I was just pissed. I honestly don't mind smurfs, but I do hate the number 1 echo in the world playing in diamond. Its fcking annoying and it ruins games.
@@CalebWest-xf6dv "It's part of ow" Why have competetive at all then? You should be competing with the same rank not with people who are GM. Like it's bullshit and stupid and I hate people support this.
Well actually, the start with that guy saying mercy’s ult is garbage is completely false, with the ability to keep everyone alive for 15 seconds, OR the ability to do 30% more damage for 15 seconds if the an anti-nade is chucked in there, and saying that zenyatta is a better pick is also false as zenyatta healing and damage potential is taken away by a sombra just making him useless for the start of a team fight and landing up being a burden, whereas mercy doesn’t lose any of her healing or damage potential when hacked, and mercy can revive people, that guys argument was completely false and he should have thought about how characters versatile utility can be changed by a single character, when his point was zen can do more than a mercy, but when you have read all of the above information you can realise that he was wrong and a mercy is a better team pick than a zenyatta, especially if there is another main healer on your team already, mercy’s resurrection ability can be used as a tide breaker in the middle of a team fight, and both of their ults can keep all of their team alive, where as if you read the start of this very long rant about an idiot who didn’t realise that mercy is a better pick, you can also use your ultimate to make all of your team do more damage, it would basically be the exact same thing if zen could put a discord on all of his enemies, which he can’t but mercy can which means that no matter what situation you’re in a mercy is always a better pick than a zenyatta, as she has the same kit utility but a resurrection ability and a discord orb on everyone. This concludes the start of the vid on this person statement and I will continue to do this throughout the video as I watch more of it.
Hana Song you didn’t understand what they were talking about, mercy is better with echo, zen is better than mercy in any other comp (maybe with pharah mercy is good?). Mercy isn’t a main healer neither an off one, so if they don’t make her a full main healer or a full off healer she will be only a situational hero
fuscello Alot of the shit the bap said only works in theory, like yeah Damage boost and Discord basically makes that ur doing the same amount of dmg but , u need los and barriers get in the way as with damage boost isn’t limited to one target and won’t have the barrier problem . Nowadays Id take Mercy over Zen . Rez is better than anything Zens has on his kit imo and Mercy has less weaknesses. Respect his opinion but Mercy is just better especially for Echo and Pharah ,
@@fuscello and that's useless information. Most of the time theories aren't applicable in an actual in game scenario. You can say echo is useless because ashe and soldier yet she's pretty op regardless of those 2 hitscans obviously depending on how good you are. But same applies to the hitscan players. What good is going hitscan if they can't hit their shots. Someone going hitscan doesn't mean you automatically die as echo. In theory maybe what you say is true but what use is zen when there was dive meta without any stuns to protect the backline. Mercy has way more survivability than zen because of her mobility and her res is a more useful ability than a Discord when there are characters diving in and out all over the place.
Also saying Discord has the same value as boost is incorrect. Boost is applied directly to the dps and Discord needs to be targeted towards one enemy at a time while at the same time having a line of sight to actually get that one specific target and while at the same time making sure there isn't anything obstructing the target such as a sheild while a zen is a sitting duck trying to get los and then killed because of his zero mobility.
I don't get why lower rank players get mad when a GM plays in their rank using an alt account. It's not like Samito threw games to get to that low rank. It's called *Unranked to GM* for a reason.
@@simbast9726 ofc he will always get clicks and shit but look at sleepy or redshell for example. those guys grow like a wildfire and the edits are the key. Samito will never grow exponentially until he puts for effort forward..... Love him as I do Sam just needs to take his time with vids and not pump out gameplay like he's working on a production line
Gotta respect Samito for not getting heated back
You can tell he takes things to heart though, despite the self-confidence he earned through his achievements in OW. He cares what other people think but actively forces himself into a understanding and harmonizing mentality.
lol what?it’s not that deep
10:57
1) Swap to Zenyatta
2) Use "Transcendence"
3) Bodyblock your Mercy while she's ressing one of your tanks
4) Win the fight.
- Samito's OW guide. -
this guy sounds like his ex was a mercy main and cant stand the thought of someone playing her
lmfao
Bro what is that overwatch sign on ur name
@@Yalazith he bought the join thing next to the subscribe button
Oh
His argument is stating that Mercy is garbage lmao.
Kindaaa true thoooo kinda
Funny thing is, he's actually wrong. Mercy gives you a 30% damage boost while discord orb only applies a 25% extra damage debuff to ONE target. So if you used halt into sticky bombs with a Zen, you'd do a total of 225 damage to the target you stuck and 150 splash to the rest of the players pulled. With Mercy you do a total of 234 to the target you stuck and 195 damage to the rest of the players pulled. That extra 45 HP of damage per player pulled and hit with the bombs could be the difference between winning and losing a team fight. Sure, Valk is nowhere near as good as Trans, but you don't have to peel for a Mercy as often as you would have to peel for a Zen. You'd also have to play a lot less aggro and would get a lot less value from each sticky since Zen would need LOS to give you any value. This guy is just wrong all around.
@@Shadalpha I'm pretty sure the Bap was solely looking at it as Valk vs Trans whereas it's more than that. It's like saying no pharah mercy is bad go Pharah Zen. Like bruh..
@@Shadalpha In regards to dmg boost, that's not necessarily true. Since discord is applied to the enemy hero, the second you add dmg from any other source its just better than mercy dmg boost cause its "boosting" more dmg than mercy can ever hope to.
@@Shadalpha Yeah but a rein or hog discorded is much better with a whole team shooting them than one person damage boosted. Nevertheless mercy echo is much much better than echo zen lmao
Did man try to recommend Zen over Mercy?
Smoke19th yes he did lmao
Guarantee you he’s the type of guy that tries to be a dps while playing as a healer.
@@miggle1654 he's the guy who's is tired to queue for 10 mins in queue and joins support to be dps
@@InnerEagle Yup
to be fair, it is better. At least every pro team used zen or lucio rather than a mercy in that tournament they just had
The problem with that guys argument is that everything he stated only works IN THEORY.
Its really hard to apply theory to practice, for example, technically speaking Echo should be able to get off 5 pulse bombs during her ult, and yet in practice its almost impossible to land full clip all headshots to get the pulses bombs 5 times.
Lol exactly
He doesn't even consider flanking and shield since echo can ignore shields by going over and around them while zen can't put discord through shields so mercy gets more constant value plus she has 20 more healing per second
@@christianfreed3352 also damage boost is 30% while discord is 25%
LOL at one of the dudes comments in chat when the game ended!
I mean, he's right tho
The Ashe was tilted tho. Said: “ Go back to GM you’re ruining games”
would'nt u be.
Thing is if you can't win against GM players or people higher than your rank, you don't deserve to climb. It's a different story if its a silver/gold vs GM though. If you believe you are a better player then you should be playing against better players.
@@LeniusRiven if that was the case the game by design would pit you against better players and not against those of "similar" skills. If playing against those much better than you is the only way to show you deserve than he should be playing against OWL Pro's only since that's only appropriate. Let's see how u/he reacts after you lose 100's of SR and lots of matches playing against them especially when they are pretending to not be who they are.
@@SheetHorizon21 Thank you! I don't mind smurfs but playing against the #1 echo because "Content" is so annoying. He shouldn't be there at that rank and I'm trying to maintain my rank and get good at that rank not necessarily climb to GM.
It is tilting
Smurfs ruin games they are found so much in diamond. They dont care, they feel like they can do or play whatever they like just bcuz its not their main acc.
And if you tell them otherwise they tell you theyre gm and start throwing.
yo, guys, we all get passionate and make mistakes but thankfully they don't all get publicized. I know him, and he is an amazing dude, he regrets what he said. Just remember he is also a person and we should follow Samito's example and not fuel the hate. Imagine if you got publically humiliated and had no opportunity to apologize. Show him some love and prove that the internet and Overwatch isn't just a bunch of trash talkers and an endless cycle of hate.
Kayla L he literally defended the dude at least 3-4 times in the video... tf are you on about?
He started the hate why does he deserve special treatment and not everyone else.
@@natehaskey9300 Tbf in their comment they say, "follow Samito's example and don't feed the mindless toxicity"
Sure what he said was pretty bad and I disagree slightly with Samito not everyone says gross stuff like that or has anger issues, but the rest of the comment I think @Kayla L was making pretty good points. And no I don't think this is special treatment either, you shouldn't judge a person off of just one interaction he very well could be a great guy in person and he doesn't have the opportunity to make it up
He only regrets doing it because he got recorded and posted online and Humiliated. The guy was toxic the moment someone disagreed with him. He deserves the hate. Not even 1 minute into the match.
okay nagato
This is actually my best friend who is the star of the show here. He is actually a very nice guy and he DM'd me with this video and was talking about how bad he felt and how he really messed up with how he spoke. Just remember that we all lose control once in a while and this in no way defines him as a person. Much love -Booster
(I also disagree and mercy is very good with echo, he hasn't played in a while :smile:)
Hey I saw you in the tourney you were actually really good nice job on echo btw
TBoogy lol he’s probably only saying that he feels bad because he found out that he’s playing with a popular streamer. That’s what toxic ppl r like.
You are wrong and I would advise you not to think that you know someone from 10 minutes of gameplay. If you don’t believe me, all good, nothing I can change there. Have a good night :)
TBoogy Not my fault that your friend made a bad impression in those ten minutes, he was literally indirectly asking for hate. Also, he DM’d you with this vid, after it was released. So that’s why I think that he only said he feels bad because of the vid, since the reply was centered around the vid abt him trash talking.
@@eatingyourpizza9260 And you are allowed to have that opinion but I am telling you the objective fact as someone who has known him personally for 16 years is that you are wrong. Sorry if you feel that way about him. The video is only the catalyst of the regret, I doubt you remember every time you have insulted someone.
but think about it he calls you braindead like i understand being comp to win games but someone giving their opinion about a style of going at it but you tell him like yea on paper it does make sense but a mercy pocket is much stronger and yet calls you braindead, just image if you werent retired pro players or if people didnt know it was you guaranteed he would still keep on flaming you.
That one guy at the end was right with smurfs. 15:19 they ruin the game
Yea i agree but Samito is doing it for content and to help people in that rank see how to play well in their respective rank
how?
Smurfs can ruin a couple of games, not every game, so it's not like you will find that smurf in every game. You might find him once, twice, three times, just take 1 hour break and you won't find him.
@@InnerEagle Smurfs or a Smurf?
Red while I agree yes they make a “competitive game” not competitive, it isn’t impossible to beat a smurf. The other team literally didn’t do much to counter him. It’s a team game, if you let a smurf carry and beat you, that’s on your team for not playing around them. People who say they’re stuck in a low sr because of smurfs is such a bad excuse and it’s just not true. It is literally 50/50 chance a smurf is on your team unless you are the smurf yourself. This means you’ve easily had games where you got carried by a smurf and so the game and probably didn’t even realize it.
Btw Red I’m not trying to direct this towards you specifically it’s just how the reply ended up being, I’m just trying to add to what you said
I actually hate it when people fill coms with unnecessary information like it’s good to hype someone up or to suggest a switch but when your over here performing a court trial on y someone shuld switch or acting like you know everything is just obnoxious I would’ve muted that guy from the first word that came out of his mouth
I wouldn't say he's trying to win if he's suggesting a zen for an echo instead of mercy lmao. Dude is literally hard throwing the second he boots up his computer with such a small brain.
my guy it's diamond literally everyone is small brain
He’s suggesting zen because it could help the team more than a mercy pocketing, what he thought to be, a “trash” echo
I take offense to that. I’m in plat and I have a big brian.
I-Kn-Z bro mercy is gonna contribute more , yeah discrd is essentially the same as dmg boosting but dmg boosting ins’t nullified by a LOS or barrier. Plus Mercy has less weaknesses and Zen gets countered harder.
The problem with his suggestion is that it would only work in theory but not in practice,in theory you should be able to get around 2-3 mccree ults with echo but in practice if you cant aim well you wont be able to get the maximum amount he is also only considering a few scenerios
I’m actually gonna die because I know my brain will never be the size of sams
I learn so much from you love the video’s.
brickbreaker has a brick brain apparently
That zarya carried as best she could, those bubbles were clutch.
Theoretically he is right but doing this in game ON LADDER is something different. If he was playing in a 6 man and if the team is well coordinated then it can work out but thats at best case scenario
This game fucks with you man. Like I usually don’t rage at video games like ever. But this game makes me smash my damn keyboard sometimes.
I love how people are actually communicating in your game even though that match was in diamond. I play on console and only like 1 in 10 games do I get my entire team talking, or even at least 1 or 2 people
Sam was right tho mercy is the better pick to team with Echo picking zen does not make sense. He's calling him brain dead but he has no idea what he's talking about XD
Watch that guy end up the number one echo n/a lmao
Truly reformed 😁
Wait why isn't the title full caps?
Probably because it's diamond and it's embarrassing enough as it is
Samito must have got a new mic. He sounds smexy af
Nobody would see this but, if u do, have a good day :)))
Aww thank u hope u have one too
Bro big respect for not flaming it's really cool to see that.
This guy knows the theory not the practice, yes?. Well at the ens of the day there would not have been much of a difference with a zen.
He was just trying to give the team what he thought was a good team comp so he could win.
They would lose with zen dive would destroy him
Honestly I kinda agreed with what he said in the beginning until he started being toxic in the first 10 seconds for kinda no reason his explanation was factual but if they wanted echo and mercy they can it doesn’t actually make a big difference
I think we can all agree tho that him being toxic so fast was kinda unnecessary when he had a valid point it’s just the team didn’t want to
Yo that was the smartest Zen play ever
Good stuff keepfam it up ✊
Who else just came from his stream?!
this came from the stream from yesterday
Oh I already watched the stream
obviously
30 seconds into the match and we're already calling people braindead? oh no
For the people that don't know, if you are playing against echo as brig and she puts her bombs near the center of your shield don't drop it or they will stick to you but with rein you can drop it and step back avoiding all the damage and saving shield
I'm assuming it's because brig shield is closer to her but it might just be a broken interaction
It’s really cool to see echo gameplay on junkertown because I always thought junkertown was horrible for echo Bc of the long sight lines and the way hit scan counters echo
how can he say that echo isnt the best pick when u was literally melting everything lol
Someone knows when echo will be available in owl?
That guy will forever be diamond. I’m plat and even I know mercy goes well with echo good god
nah he was actually really good, his callouts kinda carried that game
8:10 people are not that dumb. never go over the roof no matter how dumb you think the team is
If he was playing DPS he would’ve gotten so much hate.
When comes the 3rd doomfist guide
All Love Sam❤️✊
I have a question, have any of you guys gotten lucky with echo's sticky bombs and focusing beam?
Cuz once I got a triple with the bombs and a double with the beam
1 tip for zen is you don't want to spam discord onto targets
Who's more powerful right now echo or hanzo
by the time sam gets 95 the guide gonna be obsolete. haha
POG finish
R.I.P Echo this week...
It’s always you guys that have sunk 1800 hours into the game that are still in plat/diamond that think they know eeeeevvvvveeeerrrryyyything about the game lmao I’m sorry clearly you don’t know how to get a lot of value if you’re that hard stuck.
drew norris found the silver
@@natehaskey9300 umm?
Your brain is huge Sam
hey samito, how do you climb so high? im stuck in sliver and gold for 3 seasons and can't get out
how did you know zarya was gonna grav?
But what about the game where the soldier
called u bad on Rialto and you won aren’t you going to post that?
Mark Davis Why is he even in diamond in the first place?
Mojiz Naqvi smurfing for knawledge
@@mojiznaqvi8524 smurfing
Has to be the worst argument for why Mercy is trash lmao. Mercy is an amazing combo with Echo, has superior movement to Zen, and has the ability to res a teammate which can win fights. And her heals are the best in game.
i remember watching this on stream lol
Love echo!!
Did he really say mercy doesn’t work well with echo... o.O
Hey, maybe he never seen a working mercy
Came here to see if Luke W would comment here after the stream.
Funny how a lvl 800 in diamond is saying you shouldn’t listen to the “retired from tier 2” t500 dps main xD
Diamond and under zen+echo is probably the better option
No, mercy echo is always better option. Zen heals can get outdamaged way easier and mercy pocket lets you take riskier 1v1's with almost no punishability
I think it honestly comes down to what the support player is better at in 90% of the scenarios. Zenyatta and Mercy have quite different play-styles
omg I remember this from yesterday
Is sams hair green?
i guess moria does not heal on diamond to.
Is it me or does the guy flaming you sound like DoubleLift LOLO
Why baptiste with echo? Baptiste is much more ground heal than air heal.
Sam not being toxic!?!?!?!?!?!?!? What year is it!?!?!?
Evolving improving human being xD
Excuse me, isn't Zenyatta's Discord orb somewhat weaker compared to Mercy's damage boost now?
I honestly don't remember which patch it came in, or if it got changed back to its old value, but didn't Blizzard's Overwatch team nerf Zenyatta's Discord orb to only increase damage received by an enemy by 25% rather than 30%?
I believe that Mercy's damage boost is 30% more damage done, but I haven't carefully checked recent patches for changes to that value, if there are any changes.
Mahmoud Lachine it is 25%. Not to mention, zen is just a trash pick most of the time
@@FunkyDexter Ok, thank you.
Mahmoud Lachine And even then Dmg boost doesnt have the limitations of los and barriers
ayy that's me
there's a reason he is stuck in diamond
What about the call-out and the end telling you to go back to GM?
they're just salty honestly. If he tells Samito that. He should tell 9/10 of the smurfs in diamond that as well ( im in diamond and come across ALOT of gm smurfs) it happens, its part of overwatch
@@CalebWest-xf6dv Hi, I was just pissed. I honestly don't mind smurfs, but I do hate the number 1 echo in the world playing in diamond. Its fcking annoying and it ruins games.
@Mark Davis That response has nothing to do with what he said...
@Mark Davis Calm down.. that's not even what he was saying my guy.
@@CalebWest-xf6dv "It's part of ow" Why have competetive at all then? You should be competing with the same rank not with people who are GM. Like it's bullshit and stupid and I hate people support this.
Well actually, the start with that guy saying mercy’s ult is garbage is completely false, with the ability to keep everyone alive for 15 seconds, OR the ability to do 30% more damage for 15 seconds if the an anti-nade is chucked in there, and saying that zenyatta is a better pick is also false as zenyatta healing and damage potential is taken away by a sombra just making him useless for the start of a team fight and landing up being a burden, whereas mercy doesn’t lose any of her healing or damage potential when hacked, and mercy can revive people, that guys argument was completely false and he should have thought about how characters versatile utility can be changed by a single character, when his point was zen can do more than a mercy, but when you have read all of the above information you can realise that he was wrong and a mercy is a better team pick than a zenyatta, especially if there is another main healer on your team already, mercy’s resurrection ability can be used as a tide breaker in the middle of a team fight, and both of their ults can keep all of their team alive, where as if you read the start of this very long rant about an idiot who didn’t realise that mercy is a better pick, you can also use your ultimate to make all of your team do more damage, it would basically be the exact same thing if zen could put a discord on all of his enemies, which he can’t but mercy can which means that no matter what situation you’re in a mercy is always a better pick than a zenyatta, as she has the same kit utility but a resurrection ability and a discord orb on everyone.
This concludes the start of the vid on this person statement and I will continue to do this throughout the video as I watch more of it.
Hana Song you didn’t understand what they were talking about, mercy is better with echo, zen is better than mercy in any other comp (maybe with pharah mercy is good?). Mercy isn’t a main healer neither an off one, so if they don’t make her a full main healer or a full off healer she will be only a situational hero
fuscello Alot of the shit the bap said only works in theory, like yeah Damage boost and Discord basically makes that ur doing the same amount of dmg but , u need los and barriers get in the way as with damage boost isn’t limited to one target and won’t have the barrier problem . Nowadays Id take Mercy over Zen . Rez is better than anything Zens has on his kit imo and Mercy has less weaknesses. Respect his opinion but Mercy is just better especially for Echo and Pharah ,
It's funny he suggests Zen when dive meta is too powerful without any stun characters lol.
@@fuscello and that's useless information. Most of the time theories aren't applicable in an actual in game scenario. You can say echo is useless because ashe and soldier yet she's pretty op regardless of those 2 hitscans obviously depending on how good you are. But same applies to the hitscan players. What good is going hitscan if they can't hit their shots. Someone going hitscan doesn't mean you automatically die as echo. In theory maybe what you say is true but what use is zen when there was dive meta without any stuns to protect the backline. Mercy has way more survivability than zen because of her mobility and her res is a more useful ability than a Discord when there are characters diving in and out all over the place.
Also saying Discord has the same value as boost is incorrect. Boost is applied directly to the dps and Discord needs to be targeted towards one enemy at a time while at the same time having a line of sight to actually get that one specific target and while at the same time making sure there isn't anything obstructing the target such as a sheild while a zen is a sitting duck trying to get los and then killed because of his zero mobility.
sammy you bastard you jebaited us
Will Sam reply to a fellow Sam? 👉🏾👈🏾😤
mercy player was very good! 🥺👉👈
one of the stream ppls
Echo is balanced 😁
I don't get why lower rank players get mad when a GM plays in their rank using an alt account. It's not like Samito threw games to get to that low rank. It's called *Unranked to GM* for a reason.
Diamond is mid rank not low rank
what is this premiere?
Who else is happy shes out of comp
Is it just me or the video quality is low ? Looks like 480p
The enemy teams ashe figures he is samito and texts at last " stop ruining games and go back to gm A***Ole. 😂😂One way to piss off ppl.
i got called a smurf by hella people bc i was trying to climb again after getting banned on my main.. :x
Samito on console echo is not banned😂😂
Wait really?! I should get my switch out
Who's coming from live?
Lol
Lol
I notice that you dont use "Hold to fly" with echo. Any reason for why you dont? You can more use out of her flu ability if you do that.
Enratic Flu ability lol
New mic? Your voice sounds so unfamiliar.
For anything zen is a bad pick. He doesn’t do enough healing, he lacks mobility, and he can shoot only healing orb at a time.
Here from stream since we can't watch Minecraft
This guys name is big chungus and mine is big chungus102103 but my tv broke so I can’t play
stream drop boys
Yo i was on an overwetch team with this guy wtf
Gold portrait who’s hardstuck diamond calling a t500 brain dead 😂
Samito: Yea he wasn’t trying to be mean, he was just had some criticism about the comp, not a bad guy. Title: tRaSh taLker gEts pRovEd wRoNg
Cooper Keykal I know right that's really hypocritical
Cooper Keykal he called him brain dead in the first 10 secs of the game gets proven wrong so id say the title’s kinda right
good video gg ez
stream gang
LOL nice you DOXed someone bc you disagreed with them. Very cool Very mature.
A good doom would have got you lol i haye doom so much
Hey sam could you do some edits or something interesting? Raw gameplay is not a great way to grow a channel tbh
Check his social blade
@@simbast9726 ofc he will always get clicks and shit but look at sleepy or redshell for example. those guys grow like a wildfire and the edits are the key. Samito will never grow exponentially until he puts for effort forward..... Love him as I do Sam just needs to take his time with vids and not pump out gameplay like he's working on a production line
Tbh I agree to the raw gameplay thing. Most people don't have the attention span to watch raw footage. I think edits would be great!
So it proves you wrong lol jk
Eyyyyyy