Liberty Machine, Inc. MACHINE SHOP TOUR!
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2018
- Low ceilings---High Standards. Seth Madore Liberty Machine, Inc. has an incredible story. After working for a top-notch facility for 8 years, Seth gradually took steps to have a shop of his own. What do you do when you buy a DMG Mori DuraVertical 5100 and you don't have room? You build around it! Don't be fooled by this unsuspecting 995 sq ft space. Liberty Machine, Inc. is producing some of the highest quality parts with extremely thorough inspection processes. INSPIRING!
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YOU GET A MACHINE SHOP TOUR, YOU GET A MACHINE SHOP TOUR, EVERYBODY GETS A MACHINE SHOP TOUR! -Oprah (probably).
Seriously though. What a bunch of great videos lately. This is one of the best channels out there.
THANK you!!!
Second that these are my favorite videos I've seen on youtube
A pleasure to see a passionate master craftsman in his element.
True garage shop. I love that. That would freak out the customer, here in Europe.
Thanks John, love all the shop and factory tours.
Yep. Great to see other people's set ups.
Awesome, almost what I am doing in 400 square feet at Factory 400. Making a tiny space work for manufacturing is a unique skill - fantastic to see how this guy is making it work.
I also had to cut a hole in the ceiling for the CNC column....
Seth is one of the nicest guys I have met while working on Fusion. He really went above and beyond! Good to see John doing an expose on your shop. Kudos boys!
THIS is what American ingenuity, quality and integrity LOOKS LIKE!
Hey Seth, thank you for all the help you have given me on the Fusion forums!
kvid He really is the best. So generous with his time to help others and spread his wealth of knowledge.
No kidding! I saw the name and went, "Hey, I know of that guy!"
This is how you make consistetly good parts . Every minute detail matters . Especially true on multiple op parts with tolerances between different planes . Great work man .
REALLY enjoying all the shop tours lately, this one in particular. Just goes to show that you don't need a 5,000 sq/ft building to make parts efficiently, espically to us small guys wanting to start our own shops soon, kind of reminds me of when you started and the bootstrapper mentality. Great work John, keep up the great work!!
It allways depends on the volume. If you have the work you can start a farm. These machines are too expensive to collect dust.
John... this is great. The place I just got a job at (because of you, abom, the Keiths, and others I'm forgetting) started in the 80s in a chicken coop. Thanks for all the work you do putting together these videos.
Building the building around the machine seems a lot easier than what I did. LOL I sure do love my bridge crane, heated slab and huge doors though so It was still totally worth it.
Just out of curiosity, what does the heated slab do?
jaewon hwang it keeps his feet nice and warm
I think it helps with having a more stable thermal mass that keeps the machines more accurate too.
MrKalashnik0va Probably not so much just a plain cold climate thing as it is a climate where temps change a lot day to day. We often get 40-50 Deg temp swings here and that bows stuff like a pretzel
I really like these shop tours! I feel like I'm learning a lot! Thank you very much!
This dude is living my dream! Planning my jump in 3-4 yrs, planning and socking away money, and as part owner of my current company I’m socking away company money in another account so I can insure the other 2 owners will have the buyout money when I jump ship
One of the best videos to date. Im glad your going to other machine shops so we can see how they work. Very cool
Very nice machine shop and a likeable, knowledgeable owner. Enjoyed the tour alot!
I AM SO F EXCITED LISTENING AND WATCHING THAT MAN TALK ABOUT HIS MACHINES
25:04 A lot better than some of the machinist hands I've seen! Hygienic hands for a hygienic shop. Great video as usual John! The shop tours are one of my favorite series.
You said it John, very inspiring video! I love Seth's story too. Thanks for the video!
The front panel on that Kitamura is gorgeous. The illuminated logo has a "gaming PC" vibe to it, but I can't look away. I love it.
Love these shop tours! Great guy and cool shop, keep em coming! Thanks!
Nice shop! Good notes on growth, phase converter, Kitamura, organization. Neat to see another take on a small space shop. I also appreciate the approach stepping carefully into the work.
I love this shop! Excellent quality and knowledge. Represent Maine!
Awesome video! I think that's awesome how you built Your machine shop sir! Hats off to You,to Liberty Machine!🤝🇺🇸💪🙌👍
Ah, awesome seeing Liberty on here, I've had them do some work for me recently, would recommend.
I am happy to see a good person progressing in life. he is a really nice fella
I would love tours of shops like this. Seems like most of your viewers are starters or star ups or new to business etc. This way we can see what pains and benefits there are to having a machine shop start in your garage. Very much like the way you started.
loved that one. My aerospace shop supports the guy down the street to an extreme degree. But he's reliable and does great fixtures for them and takes huge amounts of time of processes. Hes a millionaire now and left because they wouldn't give him an extra buck an hour. I like he knew his capability. Would love to pick his and that guys brain. Probably from an aptitude standpoint one of the hardest things to do as an individual and make it happen. Also liked when he said his 12 year old could do it. Management where i work seems to bet on the wrong horse on a consistent basis. but then again the guy down the street that helps them is coming up. Interested to see what it becomes years down the road. thanks JSM..
man, this is really amazing story, good luck for him
what a perfect garaje!
Just got to admire this guy. A real “go getter”
Awesome shop. The part about not burning bridges. I am in the same situation I started my own shop and still have great relationship with my previous job.
Great video to show how you start you company in a Garage!
I was brought up in a house where my parents had a print shop in the house, similar to Seth.. It was AMAZING as a kid.. I'd recommend working in your house any time.
Seth you are the man!!!
Hey Seth! You look good on UA-cam! I saw one or two peeks of the SPIDERCOOL! Can't wait to come back and visit!
Great shop tour with great insights.
Maine is still cold this time of year ! That is dedication !
I really enjoyed this video, thanks!
Liked, especially as there is a Brown & Sharpe CMM.
I used to work in their product design dept before Hexagon bought hem.
Great video John, loving the shop tour videos. thank you for sharing. Matt C
I wish he explained one of his macro programs for measuring and correcting tool offset. Nice machine shop and nice tour! Thanks John!
So cool! I wish I can have a shop like this. I would not sleep! lol! Much luck to you! God I love this trade!
Great Stuff right here!
Awesome tour!
Really cool, makes my shop at my house look big with 1200sqft, but at least I know it will fit. 12x10 and 16x10 doors one at each end
I have the same water bottle as Seth!....now i just need to be a master machinist😁. Thanks for the video guys.
I love some of the American CNC mfg names. Liberty Machine. Freedom Machine Tool. 'Murica!
Really nice video, thanks
This is my dream job man. I work in aerospace/nuclear machining and I would love nothing more than to have a couple of big boy machines in my garage making aerospace parts.
Man I would love a shop like this
Well, He should be getting his new load of work in right about now. Awesome.
Seeing the guy using the Manual CMM was a wow moment for me. Used to measure with a big brown and sharpe with the joystick and PCDMIS and all and still fucks up the probe. I cannot imagine me using this. I'd probably end up destroying a fuck ton of stylus 🤣. Man your mindset is inspiring! More power to your shop! I want my own shop too!!!😥😅 One thing I'd do different tho, I'd eliminate the pullstuds problem and imma go Hollow tapered shank. I'm guessing in a few years, HSK would catch up in terms of availability variety and price and those things are very robust 😁
Wow so inspiring. I would love more of these one man shop/business tours.
Nice video Seth! You sure have grown. Wayne LaBreck
Thank you sir! I need to get John back in here at some point to do an update video. One more machine, lots more space :-D
I served my apprenticeship at a job-shop called Liberty Tool & Model!! :)
Curious about your phase converters - I've (obviously) been considering american rotary - you mention not using rotary and only using digital phase converters... would you mind sharing what you use? Do you have a single converter, or one per machine? Thanks!
Cool dude!
Thanks John.
I hope one day you have the opportunity to visit Emachine shop in New Jersey. They receive online orders straight from a web base design software and it works pretty good. Thank you again you have great videos, keep it up.
I watched a greenhorn put a tool in an ER32 collet, brand new mind you. He went to measure it with the touch sensor in a VF2, and the tool itself exploded. It was a brand new E/M, and it came with multiple micro fractures. Oddest thing I’ve ever seen. Cool shop, wish I had it at home.
I’m quite surprised that you have no turning machines. I do have to laugh at the hole in the ceiling for the spindle motor . We had the exact same problem with all of our mills. Low ceilings suck lol.
Nice show seth! it was great to get the virtual tour :-) I'd love to come visit sometime.
AL Whatmough the door is always open!
I am surprise you or Curtis have not yet
Seth Madore thanks heaps. Very interesting indeed. Especially your insight regarding the mori vs kitty
I cannot say enough good things about the DuraVertical. I'm 100% certain that this machine will be a top performer in my shop for at least a decade or more. Shop I came from had a couple '05 models that NEVER had issues. All day long, holding tolerance and finish. The Kitty..not gonna lie, there have been issues. Nothing "death sentence", but still. Switches failing in 6 months, crappy control that needed a couple upgrades to become somewhat useful, chip conveyor that gets jammed very easy (need to run it often) coolant nozzles that didn't even adjust far enough to hit a standard tool (had to add a Spider Cool). Still a good, accurate and fast machine, but falls short when comparing it to the Mori.
How do you maintain temperature, comfort, humidity? Does rotary work as well as solid state for quality of phase conversion
Dennis L.
how often do you have the machine engrave identification numbers on your parts?
THis guys SHOP IS FUCKING AWESOME
A man after my own heart. He's got a machine shop and a dualsport motorcycle.
Rowan Dunn 2013 BMW F800 GS 😎
i would love to have something of that caliber but i still love my bored out klx250s because it is light and maneuverable in sketchy terrain
Ha! That's exactly what I had before the F800! I got tired of feeling like I was sitting on a 2x4 for road trips. Seeing as I favored pavement more (for now) I sold the KLX for what I paid for it and stepped into the 800 for a very fair price
looks like a great bike but i,m fixing up a ktm rsx400 to supermoto and that will be my street bike
Uh ! Now I understand. The real reason for enlarging the workshop is just one: more room for the next 1200 GS
:) :) :)
I would likely not be able to resist spraying ceiling and walls white when I was at it building the place. But cred to this guy resisting doing it) I know, it's a temporary place
Amazing shop. Can someone explained to me that tap method they mentioned in video to indicate tool runout in er collet please. I always batteling with runout on my VF-2.
Martin Kroutil bring the needle of a tenths indicator to the tip of the flute. By hand, rotate the spindle in reverse. Find the high flute. Back indicator away. Place finger behind tool so as not to shock it. Tap directly on the collet nut with a small piece of brass or copper. Indicate again, repeat as needed
Thank you so much sir. Do i fully tighten collet before that taping and indicating or i tight collet lightly and after indicating i tight collet to specs?
Tighten as if you were going to run it. Sometimes when the runout cannot be chased out with this method, I try a different collet/holder combination.
is there any machine with a fanuc control wich is better than a doosan dnm 4500 and any idea about the price?
Come tour our machine shop at Orlando, FL! CUES Inc. is the company I work for. It would be awesome to meet you
How do you choose the proper torque to tight the vise? Any tips anyone ?
One of the principle drawbacks with the 5100 is that I've seen, is that the clearance between the table to the door is quite limited, and that's mostly because the controller is recessed into the machine. Seems unecessary. It visibly looks like you can have some additional vice overhang or something outside that table boundary. But the splash guard of the door knocks into it. The memory also sucks. Only 500KB. Or maybe the company I work for is just cheap, and bought no other options. Still though. 500KB is abysmal for an offering for a machine that pushes 150 Grand around there I think.
Yep, my complaints about the machine are ergonomics related and that's it. I do have the DNC server on my machine, so I do have a Gig of space if needed.
The operator has to stand in front of the machine so there is no reason to "save space" but recessing the controller. That is probably the stupidest thing ever. Put it on an arm and let it rotate around.
Agree with gredageo's drawbacks. It gets really tricky when you have to run longer parts on this machine. Management can't budget for the larger NVX7000 60"x30" size. Two DV5100 40"x20"s were bought instead. The added setup time of having to spin larger parts would have paid for the larger NVX in three years alone. Loved running the DV5100. Currently running a Haas VM2, what a Huge Difference. Has anyone run one of the new DMG CMX style machines with the Y axis up top?
Thanks for the factory tour. Could you tell me the type of microscope you are using?
Scienscope www.scienscopeproducts.com/video-inspection-systems/
Thanks
24:00 if the engineer specified the GD&T references correct in the drawing, then there is only one correct way to establish the coordiante system.
Nearly 10 years in engineering / new product development. It is surprising how many engineers grossly misunderstand or just misuse GD&T.
Inspiring. Wonder if he’s hiring? He seems like a great guy to work for.
Yeah, great guy until you really get to know him! :D
A) I'm in Maine, a state with a poor record of chasing off a lot of young people. Sure, some stick around, but the majority have bought the lie that Maine has no financial future for them
B) Currently, no, I'm not looking to hire. As the shop expands and spindles and inspection capacity is added, that will likely change
I don't know that I would trust my optical comparator/profile projector to a tenth like that. Is this a verification or an edge break being present or an actual measurement?
It's good for .0005" verification. Just checking existence of an edge break, and determining if it's in the customer tolerance
Hey man I have a little shop on deer Isle
Que envidia en México mi presupuesto no alcanza ni para una conversional
22:12
What not to do as an operator when your boss is giving a tour
Eh, he was deburring a part under a microscope ;)
My advice would be. stop doing small add-ons to your house/garage. Build a proper Factory up the back of the block, 3 Phase,, Heated floor, maybe a small ramp for the GS for De Stress time. Thanks for the cool vid,
I had a manufacturing business that I built and sold 8 years later. About 50 employees and a couple buildings and 24hr stress and it was awesome and it’s still going today without me. From my perspective (and I enjoy making things) you have the dream situation. Keep this place the way you want it and under control. When you get bigger you lose your creative space and everyone breaks your stuff:-). If you ever desire a production shop build that down the street and don’t mix the two. Just saying... I realize nobody asked. Seriously though- nice job and thank you for sharing. I come from automotive roots where it’s so cut throat that you become... I don’t have the guts to invite the world in yet...
* . * wooow
What is this tap method of indicating being referred to?
Put tool in holder, tighten collet nut. Place in spindle. Bring the needle of a tenths indicator to the tip of the flute. By hand, rotate the spindle in reverse. Find the high flute. Back indicator away. Place finger behind tool so as not to shock it. Tap directly on the collet nut with a small piece of brass or copper. Indicate again, repeat as needed. Double check up near the collet to make sure runout is still acceptable. Hello longer tool life and better accuracy.
I don't often do that for roughing tools. Finish tools almost always get that treatment. When you have a .001" Profile all around a part, you need everything working on your side.
Thanks so much Seth!
Oh, and one clarification. Small tooling, (anything under .125 (3mm) roughing or finishing, I indicate in. Tool life has a huge impact otherwise
@@sethmadore4127 well explained. Thank you
when measuring with cmm never lean against the granit table
You watch this video, and the tragic thing is that DMG Mori has totally trashed their reputation after getting rid of the Dura Vertica 5100. Both of their attempts to replace it have been a fail.
Greg Koenig haha, we actually talked about that off camera. I'd buy a used Duravertical before the latest version of replacement
Honestly? I would avoid anything DMG Mori these days. Too many DMU 50, CMX-V, MillTap horror stories I've been hearing. Where the DV5100 was in the market is pretty much owned by the Okuma M560V these days.
Also, that Kitamura is super nice! Emailed the dealer for Portland... With a 4th axis and a 15k spindle? It would be sweet for aluminum work!
Greg Koenig and yet people can't seem to buy enough DMG's!!
I wound't kick the NHX horizontals out of my shop, that's for certain. Beautiful machines for sure. (Just don't have room for one!)
Seth Madore that is true actually. Most of the DMGs my customers have been buying are NHX and NLX.
john... why john.... why do you that to me..... this tours are evil as the evilest droge of the world i'm heavily addicted of this TaMP your tours are amazing!!! more TaMP's Please
Dude has an Alliance sticker on his cabinet , something must be wrong with him.
Horde is just mud huts and spikes. Plus your current warchief is off her rocker. ;)
This guy has got 3 acres behind his house.... just build a metal building dude. you got half a million in machines, build the building.
Quarter mill in machines, but I get the sentiment ;)
I might build a "real shop"on the property, , but I'm certainly considering all my options. Not sure if I want to grow to that size on my own property, what with additional employees and all. Build an addition big enough for one more machine, I could absorb that. Plus, the space would come in very handy when I move the shop to a larger building. I love wrenching on vehicles and powersports, so it wouldn't be a waste
Was that cool or what?
not a machine shop we call these people button pushers
Okay :)
Disrespectfull, he is a great machinist.
Great tour!
Curious about your phase converters - I've (obviously) been considering american rotary - you mention not using rotary and only using digital phase converters... would you mind sharing what you use? Do you have a single converter, or one per machine? Thanks!
Digital Phase Converters from Phase Technologies. The rot-phase produce more heat and noise, and on top of that, they are less efficient. The digital converters are about 98% efficient, roto is about 80%. Yes, I have one for each machine. Technically, I could run both off of one, but neither company was going to warranty anything if I chose to do that.
Excellent, thank you Seth!