@@x-men69-96 Foot traffic and business....I bet the overhead on this 400,000 square foot building is significant versus a 2 story structure in the suburbs
This isn’t a historic Macy’s store. This is the historic John Wanamaker’s store that Macy’s took over in the 1990s. Not a square inch of this place was designed for Macy’s. Originally created as the flagship store for John Wanamaker, this is one of the last vestiges of “old Philadelphia.”
I'm a descendant from the philly wanamakers their are unrelated ones in Ohio and I believe NY and on another side a family member married into it...actress Elizabeth Russel my great aunt. 😢 I always say the wanamaker-Macy building
When the iconic and historic Carson Pirrie Scott department store closed its flagship location in downtown Chicago years ago, purchased from its fixtures sales. I highly recommend that you folks in Philly buy up some of the history from the Wanamaker store. A group out of Canada oversaw the fixtures sale at Carson Pirrie Scott and they negotiated the sale price on everything. I got a BIG three-way fitting room mirror for $150. I probably could have negotiated the price down even further because the Canadians had to no idea of the value, let alone an appreciation for the historic/nostalgic value of what they were selling. I got a lot of good items that I treasure to this day. If you are going to go for fixtures, hire a moving truck to haul that stuff for you. Trust me, unless you have a big car or truck/van of your own, it will make your lives a lot easier. Inside of the old Carson Pirrie Scott flagship store is a Target. It is such a sad sight to see. The other major, iconic, and historic Chicago department store Mashall Field's was taken over by Macy's years ago too.
I feel so sad. My Mom used to take my sister and I to The Wanamaker Building to see the Christmas light show. I still went to see it even as an adult, and it is one of the many reasons why I keep Christmas lights up in my room all year around. I loved shopping at the building and of course every Philadelphian said, "Meet me at The Eagle" when meeting friends and family while inside the building. I was just there a few months ago. If I had known it was going to close I would've made the trip just to see the dancing Christmas Lights one more time. Such an end of an era.
I remember as an 8 year old seeing someone shoplifting for the first time in my life in Macys. A very petite grandmotherly black lady wearing a winter coat & hat , She was and standing next to a display of ladies leather gloves. She started scooping them from the table into her shopping bag, next she looked around & moved to the winter scarves started scoping them into her bag. I pointed this out to my mom who ,took me to the side . I was amazed at this woman’s thievery was surprised how greedy she was not taking one pair because her hand were cold ,but loading up her two shopping bags. Mother explained to me that sometimes the elderly were mentally forgetful & didn’t really know what they were doing at times.😊This was just a shopping trip into Philly from So,Jersey & I learned a lot.
@@girleyreds11-11 that's going to fill the space. And there's already an excess of offices. And you're limited due to its historic preservation designation. You don't have a lot of options. And you're kind of hemmed in location wise.
When the Macy’s store in downtown Atlanta closed years ago, I feared that it was the beginning of the end of what knew of it. I remember attending fashion week in Atlanta & spending time at Macy’s.. I liked the co so much that I went to work there after college. The building was really old & it really needed a huge facelift but still…. Macy’s & 4th of July fireworks & the Thanksgiving parade which opens the season are traditions that warm the hearts of almost all, the most wonderful time of the year. The thought of so many stores closing is very sad but I’m looking forward to seeing them continue to grow in other ways.
@@MotocrossGuru-zf8pk Yes, department stores and malls both seem to be on death's door. Most of the area malls are dead or dying. And I can't remember the last time I went to Macy's for anything? I kind of miss being able to go to places like Sears.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT I WORK IN CENTER CITY AND GO TO MACY'S ALL THE TIME ONE DAY I WAS LOOKING AT PERFUME AND ASKED THE CLERK WHERE WAS THE SAMPLES SHE SAID THEY DON'T PUT THEM OUT ANYMORE DUE TO THIEF....CENTER CITY HAS A BAD HOMELESS PROBLEM AND OTHER STORES ARE CLOSING DUE TO THIEF THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL.....I FEEL SORRY FOR THE STORE OWNERS IT'S OUT OF CONTROL
I shop online too....but I still go to the store to get what I want....I get it faster that way...sometimes you gotta shop online if it's not available in the stores....once upon of time I use to work for macys....one I worked at was closed in 2020 during looting and this make this believe covid BS
That's because sh-t be selling high and they keep the same (nobody don't want items in the store and try to discount them. The discounts does make a difference if the items are already not sell able. Smdh
I think macy*s next victims will be both Marshall Field State Street Store in Chicago's Loop which is currently a macy*s. As well Boston's Downtown Crossing Store which was originally The Jordan Marsh Company Boston Flagship until 1996 when it was converted to macy*s. You just wait and see. It won't be long!!!😢
Once upon a time there were entire bunch of department stores. Wanamaker's, Gimbel's,Lit Brothers, Strawbridges. All dead now. The councilman is really trying to spin this... You tried to give us the same speech about the Fashion District. And the same speech about the Sixers arena. Center City Philadelphia already has excess Office space. And I don't see anyone banging down the doors to live next to City Hall.
That has happened in every city. Fashion District, what a joke. Arena won't bring people to city. Events, Crystal Room known as a restaurant before in Wanamaker's. Boy they will pay any idiots to talk news.
I'M GUESSING YOU LIVE IN PHILLY THEN YOU KNOW CENTER CITY IS FILTHY FILLED WITH HOMELESS FOLKS ON DRUGS OR MENTALLY ILL....THE STORES ARE CLOSING DUE TO THE HIGH THIEF AND OTHER CRIMES...IT'S SAD YET THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT AN ARENA WHICH WILL ONLY BRING MORE CRIMINAL ELEMENT...SAD! ALL THIS POLITICANS SEE IS MONEY AND TO HELL WITH THE PEOPLE
Marshall Field's. Carson Pirrie Scott. Dayton's. Hudson's. Wieboldt's. Evans. Bonwit's. Lord & Taylor. I Magnin. smh...the great American Department Stores were so luxurious and glamorous. Many of them were architectural masterpieces of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
For those who reside in the City of Philadelphia and its northern and western suburbs, the Lehigh Valley, the State of Delaware and southern New Jersey: - There is another store that is closing that is on that list: Macy’s Backstage Store - Located in the Essex Green Shopping Center, 495 Prospect Avenue, Township of West Orange, Essex County, New Jersey, and is physically located about 20 miles west of New York City/Manhattan and about 90 miles northeast of Philadelphia Center/City. ☹️😓
Macy's bought out the completion over the years, and then dismantled them. They spent millions...and now there is no money left. I cannot even step in the old Marshall Fields in Chicago any more...after they sold off 3/4 of the interior space. Macy's is now a has been.
I moved out of Chicago a decade ago, when you say sold off 3/4th of the interior space, are you referring to the State Street Marshall Field's building or the former Water Tower Place location?
@@v.a.993 Yes...the flagship store on State Street. Floors 8 -14 are now owned by Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian multinational company that is a large management company to resell as office space. Sale price was $30 million.
Note the councilman skirted the issue of crime in the city when the newscaster mentioned the fact the people are afraid to go to that area in fear of being mugged. All the ideas and "plans" he talked about. Talk is cheap. I knew a guy who once said --- "One could fall out of a fifth story window and be mugged three times before he hits the cement."
Lets make the 1st day of summer national turn off your phone and computer day, hang out with friends, family or meet someone new and shop in person versus online! 💖🦄🌷🦋🙏
I agree and Primark is the only store in that fashion district consistently doing good business. Burlington went downhill when they moved and due to theft. Giant supermarket at 8th and market closed December 28th. It’s a shame. It truly is
THE GALLERY BEEN DONE FOR YEARS BEFORE CLOSING WHEN ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD HANG IN THERE FOLKS STOPPED GOING...NO ON WANTS TO BE BOTHERED WITH THOSE KIDS....WHEN I WENT IN THERE RECENTLY ITS STILL A BUNCH OF KIDS DOWN IN THE FOOD COURT AREA...IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME TO RE DO THAT PLACE
I believe it, but you couldn't even move in there back in the day it was so packed with people especially on the weekends and holidays! It was truly glorious back in the 1980s and before that, especially around Christmas time when our parents would take us there for the Christmas light show and festivities. The modern Mall experience is nothing like that used to be, the music, the treats, the decorations the lights and adjust the general atmosphere back then was amazing! The late 1990s is when it started going downhill. Nothing good last forever dude, I'm sure you've seen it many times in your city of London as well, it's the corporate times that we live in unfortunately.. Love from the US bro 🍀
When a kid in the 60s I went there (Wanamakers) with my mom - you spend a whole day there, 3 floors of furniture, one had a complete ranch house with a center atrium they would redecorate periodically. They had a piano department, record department, I even think they sold appliances. My mom would say how her rich cousins in Rydal had their house decorated by Wanamakers including items by Dorothy Draper, the top designer in the U S at the time. When I worked downtown on the 80s I would go to their men’s department on my lunch hour, once I met Tommy Hilfiger presenting his new collection (1986?) - he asked me if I liked it, told him not really, wasn’t my style (never was!). I do think not long afterwards Wanamakers starting losing their edge as far as merchandising.
@@luckyDancer100 That will be up to what happens to the retail area of the old Wanamaker’s building. I do not know if Macy’s owned the rights and property of the show or the buildings owner. So it may still be able to be done. However even if it is owned by the building owner it would be up to whoever is operating in the retail space as they plan to use different stores to operate in the old retail space. So I am sure if they could come to an agreement with the new stores to mount the Christmas show it would have to be changed to reflect on who is operating in the retail area and most likely will be different than now.
The days of old large department stores are over. Other than New York City there are few other cities with downtown department stores. People either want to shop at the larger discount big box stores or on line today. Macy’s tried and was nice but usually carried more high priced clothing and other items that most people in Philadelphia wanted. In the older days the stores were locally owned and operated and their buyers were from the local area and knew what their customers wanted. Today stores like Macy’s are run from New York or at best some regional offices so they do not necessarily know what their customers want in each city. What the owners of the Wanamaker building sound like they are interested in keeping the retail portion open but with different stores that may have more appeal. It is good to hear they plan to keep the eagle and the organ as both have a good local following. As for the Christmas light show it most likely will be up to the new owner and if the various stores they get can mount such an attraction as a group to drive traffic to their stores in the building. It will most likely have to be changed but it could be both part old and new. I hope they succeed as there is the need for good retail stores in the downtown to serve the people who live and work nearby.
@ we actually do have one regionally owned department store chain owned by its original family called Boscov’s founded in the Reding,Pa area. It has sucessful expanded in the Philadelphia area and operates in several states as well. They tend to operate as anchor stores in regional malls but also do operate some stores in the downtowns of smaller Pennsylvania cities. I doubt they would choose to operate in the old Wanamaker’s building as it is so large and would be very expensive to operate there due to its prime real estate location and higher Philadelphia taxes. They tend to carry mid priced clothing and general household items as their prime area of business.
Macy’s has been in a slow death agony for years. The current and previous CEOs know that big department stores have run their course. They are there to cut losses and shut the place down. As Seth Godin said: “You can’t shrink your way to success.”
Nordstrom or saks should enter and make it a mini mall with small tenants time to give a modern twist . A more family oriented mall. With a tower will build on top with skydeck views like in newyork hudson yards it can house government satellite offices a post office a hotel and a condo
@ They just dont get it… They keep making more and more apartments olfor rich people then wonder why the cultural fabric of the city is deteriorating. It needs to be a public use space shit make a free performing arts space, make some sort of philadelphia cultural museum people can pay a dollar or something, walk thru and experience the organ and learn about the Wanamaker building, Or tell the story of John wanamaker, or make a space for the schools to perform or display art exhibits, you could start a district wide performing arts initiative we dont have a all-city band or all city science program, or move the septa museum there and expand it…. something other than more rich people apartments
It started out Wanamaker's. Know your facts. So sad. And these people are newscasters😂😂😂 This will always be known as John Wanamaker's. Yes later it became Hechts, Woody's, Strawbridges,Lord n Taylor, Macy's.....
@@kevinmcshea6373 Today’s newscasters do not always do their research and since Macy’s has operated the store under different operating names they most likely will report it as the old Macy’s store. Anyone from the Philadelphia area knows it was originally Wanamaker’s department store and was the most prestigious of the old department stores that operated in Philadelphia.
the country is falling apart. Philly is already not doing so well post Covid and other things , so this just deals another huge blow. and u have officials with a lack of imagination
Lived in Philly for 19 years. In NC now….i was there before all the BS started that drove Philly into the ground making it incurable now. Sad to see this even now all these years later. 😢 (Go Eagles!)
Me and the majority of my family members moved out of Philadelphia 20 plus years ago and never look back the city is a dump. I moved to the Washington DC area and my other family mover members moved in Southern Virginia and North Carolina.
RIP to the security guard that was killed due to the city ignoring retail theft.
Yeah, they tried to spin that wasn’t the problem. Looting and robbing are everywhere in Philly
@@x-men69-96 Macy's has a nationwide closing of stores. This is not related to that incident or theft in general.
@@WALTERBROADDUS spin it however you want. Why don't they close other locations, but this one ?
@@x-men69-96 They are....GEEZ!
@@x-men69-96 Foot traffic and business....I bet the overhead on this 400,000 square foot building is significant versus a 2 story structure in the suburbs
This isn’t a historic Macy’s store. This is the historic John Wanamaker’s store that Macy’s took over in the 1990s. Not a square inch of this place was designed for Macy’s. Originally created as the flagship store for John Wanamaker, this is one of the last vestiges of “old Philadelphia.”
Exactly 👍🏾
I'm a descendant from the philly wanamakers their are unrelated ones in Ohio and I believe NY and on another side a family member married into it...actress Elizabeth Russel my great aunt. 😢 I always say the wanamaker-Macy building
@@davidserlin8097 Yes, Market Street used to have several department stores. After Wanamaker's folded; It became Lord & Taylor. Then Macy's.
@@WALTERBROADDUS get the history straight.
When Philly Went WOKE IT BACAME A JOKE.. 😮😊😅😂
When the iconic and historic Carson Pirrie Scott department store closed its flagship location in downtown Chicago years ago, purchased from its fixtures sales. I highly recommend that you folks in Philly buy up some of the history from the Wanamaker store. A group out of Canada oversaw the fixtures sale at Carson Pirrie Scott and they negotiated the sale price on everything. I got a BIG three-way fitting room mirror for $150. I probably could have negotiated the price down even further because the Canadians had to no idea of the value, let alone an appreciation for the historic/nostalgic value of what they were selling. I got a lot of good items that I treasure to this day. If you are going to go for fixtures, hire a moving truck to haul that stuff for you. Trust me, unless you have a big car or truck/van of your own, it will make your lives a lot easier. Inside of the old Carson Pirrie Scott flagship store is a Target. It is such a sad sight to see. The other major, iconic, and historic Chicago department store Mashall Field's was taken over by Macy's years ago too.
I feel so sad. My Mom used to take my sister and I to The Wanamaker Building to see the Christmas light show. I still went to see it even as an adult, and it is one of the many reasons why I keep Christmas lights up in my room all year around. I loved shopping at the building and of course every Philadelphian said, "Meet me at The Eagle" when meeting friends and family while inside the building. I was just there a few months ago. If I had known it was going to close I would've made the trip just to see the dancing Christmas Lights one more time. Such an end of an era.
This was my favorite Wanamaker Store this is Philadelphia and should be a historic monument 😢
I'm sad to hear this! My mom used to take me there at Christmas time when I was little. 😢💔
Same here!
I remember as an 8 year old seeing someone shoplifting for the first time in my life in Macys. A very petite grandmotherly black lady wearing a winter coat & hat , She was and standing next to a display of ladies leather gloves. She started scooping them from the table into her shopping bag, next she looked around & moved to the winter scarves started scoping them into her bag. I pointed this out to my mom who ,took me to the side . I was amazed at this woman’s thievery was surprised how greedy she was not taking one pair because her hand were cold ,but loading up her two shopping bags. Mother explained to me that sometimes the elderly were mentally forgetful & didn’t really know what they were doing at times.😊This was just a shopping trip into Philly from So,Jersey & I learned a lot.
you got blaqed!
TURNING IT INTO CONDOS!!! WHAT!!!! DISGRACE.... everything gets freaking ruined with these condos and Townhomes look how they're ruining Wildwood
@@girleyreds11-11 that's going to fill the space. And there's already an excess of offices. And you're limited due to its historic preservation designation. You don't have a lot of options. And you're kind of hemmed in location wise.
America once used to be so beautiful.
When the Macy’s store in downtown Atlanta closed years ago, I feared that it was the beginning of the end of what knew of it. I remember attending fashion week in Atlanta & spending time at Macy’s.. I liked the co so much that I went to work there after college. The building was really old & it really needed a huge facelift but still…. Macy’s & 4th of July fireworks & the Thanksgiving parade which opens the season are traditions that warm the hearts of almost all, the most wonderful time of the year. The thought of so many stores closing is very sad but I’m looking forward to seeing them continue to grow in other ways.
online shopping and amazon really destroyed everything in its path
Democrat woke has destroyed it. Security guard got stabbed. Looting is everywhere. It’s not Amazon. It’s Democrat politicians.
@@MotocrossGuru-zf8pk Yes, department stores and malls both seem to be on death's door. Most of the area malls are dead or dying. And I can't remember the last time I went to Macy's for anything? I kind of miss being able to go to places like Sears.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT I WORK IN CENTER CITY AND GO TO MACY'S ALL THE TIME ONE DAY I WAS LOOKING AT PERFUME AND ASKED THE CLERK WHERE WAS THE SAMPLES SHE SAID THEY DON'T PUT THEM OUT ANYMORE DUE TO THIEF....CENTER CITY HAS A BAD HOMELESS PROBLEM AND OTHER STORES ARE CLOSING DUE TO THIEF THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL.....I FEEL SORRY FOR THE STORE OWNERS IT'S OUT OF CONTROL
I shop online too....but I still go to the store to get what I want....I get it faster that way...sometimes you gotta shop online if it's not available in the stores....once upon of time I use to work for macys....one I worked at was closed in 2020 during looting and this make this believe covid BS
No lazy people do that
Macy's is headed the way of Sears and JCPenney.....
@@WALTERBROADDUS seems like it
That's because sh-t be selling high and they keep the same (nobody don't want items in the store and try to discount them. The discounts does make a difference if the items are already not sell able. Smdh
Very sad to see big departments stores one by one close
looting, robbing, go woke, go broke
@@nancynguyen9318 I was shocked to hear there's only eight Sears stores left in America.
I think macy*s next victims will be both Marshall Field State Street Store in Chicago's Loop which is currently a macy*s. As well Boston's Downtown Crossing Store which was originally The Jordan Marsh Company Boston Flagship until 1996 when it was converted to macy*s. You just wait and see. It won't be long!!!😢
Once upon a time there were entire bunch of department stores. Wanamaker's, Gimbel's,Lit Brothers, Strawbridges. All dead now. The councilman is really trying to spin this... You tried to give us the same speech about the Fashion District. And the same speech about the Sixers arena.
Center City Philadelphia already has excess Office space. And I don't see anyone banging down the doors to live next to City Hall.
That has happened in every city. Fashion District, what a joke. Arena won't bring people to city. Events, Crystal Room known as a restaurant before in Wanamaker's. Boy they will pay any idiots to talk news.
I'M GUESSING YOU LIVE IN PHILLY THEN YOU KNOW CENTER CITY IS FILTHY FILLED WITH HOMELESS FOLKS ON DRUGS OR MENTALLY ILL....THE STORES ARE CLOSING DUE TO THE HIGH THIEF AND OTHER CRIMES...IT'S SAD YET THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT AN ARENA WHICH WILL ONLY BRING MORE CRIMINAL ELEMENT...SAD! ALL THIS POLITICANS SEE IS MONEY AND TO HELL WITH THE PEOPLE
Marshall Field's. Carson Pirrie Scott. Dayton's. Hudson's. Wieboldt's. Evans. Bonwit's. Lord & Taylor. I Magnin. smh...the great American Department Stores were so luxurious and glamorous. Many of them were architectural masterpieces of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
I am very sad that our retail stores are closing 😢😢
For those who reside in the City of Philadelphia and its northern and western suburbs, the Lehigh Valley, the State of Delaware and southern New Jersey:
- There is another store that is closing that is on that list:
Macy’s Backstage Store - Located in the Essex Green Shopping Center, 495 Prospect Avenue, Township of West Orange, Essex County, New Jersey, and is physically located about 20 miles west of New York City/Manhattan and about 90 miles northeast of Philadelphia Center/City.
☹️😓
@@georgeawestjr.9087 I thought you were going to say Kohl's? They have store closings as well.
@WALTERBROADDUS I understand that a Kohl's is closing in East Windsor, New Jersey, but nothing in North Jersey. ☹️
@georgeawestjr.9087 down south NJ, in East Windsor.
@@georgeawestjr.9087 we know but thanks.
Beautiful store. Sucks to see it close.
Macy's bought out the completion over the years, and then dismantled them. They spent millions...and now there is no money left. I cannot even step in the old Marshall Fields in Chicago any more...after they sold off 3/4 of the interior space. Macy's is now a has been.
I moved out of Chicago a decade ago, when you say sold off 3/4th of the interior space, are you referring to the State Street Marshall Field's building or the former Water Tower Place location?
@@v.a.993 Yes...the flagship store on State Street. Floors 8 -14 are now owned by Brookfield Asset Management, a Canadian multinational company that is a large management company to resell as office space. Sale price was $30 million.
This particular Wanamaker’s store actually opened in 1876.
Note the councilman skirted the issue of crime in the city when the newscaster mentioned the fact the people are afraid to go to that area in fear of being mugged. All the ideas and "plans" he talked about. Talk is cheap. I knew a guy who once said --- "One could fall out of a fifth story window and be mugged three times before he hits the cement."
@@ernestyeagley512 grow up. Crime is everywhere. Don't be stupid
Lets make the 1st day of summer national turn off your phone and computer day, hang out with friends, family or meet someone new and shop in person versus online! 💖🦄🌷🦋🙏
I Worked In The Wannamaker Building When It Was Lord "N" Taylor. Had to Stay During Liquidation when Macys Took Over.
They should’ve left the Gallery alone, it stayed busy. The Fashion District Mall since it opened has been a complete FAIL.
I agree and Primark is the only store in that fashion district consistently doing good business. Burlington went downhill when they moved and due to theft. Giant supermarket at 8th and market closed December 28th. It’s a shame. It truly is
@@Aquariangirl126 well now the Sixers are going to get their hands on the property.
We’ll it’s gone now, in 5 years the sixers arena will be going up, and these investors know that
THE GALLERY BEEN DONE FOR YEARS BEFORE CLOSING WHEN ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE WOULD HANG IN THERE FOLKS STOPPED GOING...NO ON WANTS TO BE BOTHERED WITH THOSE KIDS....WHEN I WENT IN THERE RECENTLY ITS STILL A BUNCH OF KIDS DOWN IN THE FOOD COURT AREA...IT WAS A WASTE OF TIME TO RE DO THAT PLACE
I went there a couple times visiting Philly from London and it was always empty.
I believe it, but you couldn't even move in there back in the day it was so packed with people especially on the weekends and holidays!
It was truly glorious back in the 1980s and before that, especially around Christmas time when our parents would take us there for the Christmas light show and festivities. The modern Mall experience is nothing like that used to be, the music, the treats, the decorations the lights and adjust the general atmosphere back then was amazing!
The late 1990s is when it started going downhill.
Nothing good last forever dude, I'm sure you've seen it many times in your city of London as well, it's the corporate times that we live in unfortunately.. Love from the US bro 🍀
PLEASE turn it into something we can ALL enjoy!
When a kid in the 60s I went there (Wanamakers) with my mom - you spend a whole day there, 3 floors of furniture, one had a complete ranch house with a center atrium they would redecorate periodically. They had a piano department, record department, I even think they sold appliances. My mom would say how her rich cousins in Rydal had their house decorated by Wanamakers including items by Dorothy Draper, the top designer in the U S at the time. When I worked downtown on the 80s I would go to their men’s department on my lunch hour, once I met Tommy Hilfiger presenting his new collection (1986?) - he asked me if I liked it, told him not really, wasn’t my style (never was!). I do think not long afterwards Wanamakers starting losing their edge as far as merchandising.
By the way the Rydal house was in the 1940s, never met them, by the 60s they had sold the house and moved to Florida.
I have stop buying from Amazon. It’s too late now.
Nooo what about their Christmas show?
@@luckyDancer100 That will be up to what happens to the retail area of the old Wanamaker’s building. I do not know if Macy’s owned the rights and property of the show or the buildings owner. So it may still be able to be done. However even if it is owned by the building owner it would be up to whoever is operating in the retail space as they plan to use different stores to operate in the old retail space. So I am sure if they could come to an agreement with the new stores to mount the Christmas show it would have to be changed to reflect on who is operating in the retail area and most likely will be different than now.
So sad
The days of old large department stores are over. Other than New York City there are few other cities with downtown department stores. People either want to shop at the larger discount big box stores or on line today. Macy’s tried and was nice but usually carried more high priced clothing and other items that most people in Philadelphia wanted. In the older days the stores were locally owned and operated and their buyers were from the local area and knew what their customers wanted. Today stores like Macy’s are run from New York or at best some regional offices so they do not necessarily know what their customers want in each city. What the owners of the Wanamaker building sound like they are interested in keeping the retail portion open but with different stores that may have more appeal. It is good to hear they plan to keep the eagle and the organ as both have a good local following. As for the Christmas light show it most likely will be up to the new owner and if the various stores they get can mount such an attraction as a group to drive traffic to their stores in the building. It will most likely have to be changed but it could be both part old and new. I hope they succeed as there is the need for good retail stores in the downtown to serve the people who live and work nearby.
There are still locally owned stores. If anything, well-located local stores seem to be doing just fine in smaller storefronts.
@ we actually do have one regionally owned department store chain owned by its original family called Boscov’s founded in the Reding,Pa area. It has sucessful expanded in the Philadelphia area and operates in several states as well. They tend to operate as anchor stores in regional malls but also do operate some stores in the downtowns of smaller Pennsylvania cities. I doubt they would choose to operate in the old Wanamaker’s building as it is so large and would be very expensive to operate there due to its prime real estate location and higher Philadelphia taxes. They tend to carry mid priced clothing and general household items as their prime area of business.
Krasners plan is coming together nicely.
No one is shopping there. What else was going to happen?
Suggestion extend the Reading Terminal Market. Philadelphia retail scene too viberent !
I remember when it was Wanarmakers, it will always be Warnamakers to me.
All of the talking and planning will not help if the DA’s won’t toss criminals in jail.
Macy’s has been in a slow death agony for years. The current and previous CEOs know that big department stores have run their course. They are there to cut losses and shut the place down. As Seth Godin said: “You can’t shrink your way to success.”
Could Boscov’s fill the space?
Change in lifestyle...people used to travel for miles to go to stores like this, some just to see the Holiday lights
That is gone with todays children
I guarantee it will be a ginormous sports bar probably with multiple floors, could’ve held out 3-5 years and made billions on it
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Nordstrom or saks should enter and make it a mini mall with small tenants time to give a modern twist . A more family oriented mall. With a tower will build on top with skydeck views like in newyork hudson yards it can house government satellite offices a post office a hotel and a condo
This is the store that brought the monorail at Christmastime to the kids! But as Wandmakers 🚀express.
we're gonna reimagine into apartments lol what a lame dull imagination
@@philly440 it's not going to be retail space. And there's already excess office space. So what magical use would you have?
@ They just dont get it… They keep making more and more apartments olfor rich people then wonder why the cultural fabric of the city is deteriorating. It needs to be a public use space shit make a free performing arts space, make some sort of philadelphia cultural museum people can pay a dollar or something, walk thru and experience the organ and learn about the Wanamaker building, Or tell the story of John wanamaker, or make a space for the schools to perform or display art exhibits, you could start a district wide performing arts initiative we dont have a all-city band or all city science program, or move the septa museum there and expand it…. something other than more rich people apartments
Its not Michigan oakland west Michigan etc new york Brooklyn
A sign
I was Santa there. Sad.
It started out Wanamaker's. Know your facts. So sad. And these people are newscasters😂😂😂 This will always be known as John Wanamaker's. Yes later it became Hechts, Woody's, Strawbridges,Lord n Taylor, Macy's.....
@@kevinmcshea6373 Today’s newscasters do not always do their research and since Macy’s has operated the store under different operating names they most likely will report it as the old Macy’s store. Anyone from the Philadelphia area knows it was originally Wanamaker’s department store and was the most prestigious of the old department stores that operated in Philadelphia.
the country is falling apart. Philly is already not doing so well post Covid and other things , so this just deals another huge blow. and u have officials with a lack of imagination
Thank MAGA and piggy Trump !
wrong.
Lofts
Bidenomics. When are we going to see the Amazon Thanksgiving day parade.
Ask dump. Bezos is a regular at dumps’s palace now.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They have a terrible selection at that location. To me, guess I’m used to NYC Macy’s
What do you mean terrible selection?
@ Selection! Of clothes! NEVER will compare to NYC Macy’s. And only a person who does not frequent there would ask…
@@Rockstar-hl9hbu are the only one comparing
@@Rockstar-hl9hb People have different definitions of terrible. I thought their selection was fine.
@@Rockstar-hl9hb so go there and shop 😂
When Philly Went Woke It Bacame A Joke To The World To Laugh At. 😮😊
Name one red city that has a major department store downtown? In fact, name
one red city that has a viable downtown. I'll wait. Stop the foolishness.
Lived in Philly for 19 years. In NC now….i was there before all the BS started that drove Philly into the ground making it incurable now. Sad to see this even now all these years later. 😢 (Go Eagles!)
Me and the majority of my family members moved out of Philadelphia 20 plus years ago and never look back the city is a dump.
I moved to the Washington DC area and my other family mover members moved in Southern Virginia and North Carolina.
The flow continuing death of Philadelphia! Move to a real City like New York
Id Like To Re- Imagine America Before Reporters Repeat The words Re-Imagine 13 Times In A 3 min. Report . Can You ReImagine That. 😮
Macy surrendered a lawsuit.