Britain on the brink of war?: Farage calls for negotiations to prevent 'death on a massive scale'
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Nigel Farage comments on the likelihood of Britain gearing up to fight in a war against Russia.
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I'm a ex military and would never fight for this government again 😤...
Same
Yep
Thought it was King and Country
thought you fought for the ppl not gov?
This government has showed it does nt really care about the indigenous Brits so you reap what you sow. I can t see many folk wanting to go to war.
People have been arrested for carrying our flag
EXACTLY!! AN NOW THEY WANT US TO LAY DOWN OUR LIVES !!!!!!
partly because we didnt resist then either.
@Mr_G_in_Alba
They took our guns so we couldn't.
@@chriscoburn6614They're gonna bring the new arrivals into the military in exchange for citizenship.
Then, they'll use this as "proof" that the new arrivals are more patriotic and therefore "more British" than you.
THEN, they'll have a military that can be used against the public without protest forevermore.
Watch and see. Its happening.
@@Mr_G_in_Alba People often resist, they just get arrested.
My husband was in the army for 20 years, our fathers and grandfathers fought in both world wars, however I would not want my grandson`s to go and fight for a country that does not care about them anymore.
WELL SAID YOU !
Tbh, they've never cared. The last just war Britain was in was WW2
dont be there going nowhere for these out of touch tyrants @nannieg7622
There's over 60,000 Ukrainian men of fighting age run away from the fight. And professional footballers in the UK.
Yes I totally agree these spinless politicians wil soon be off on a plane after causing trouble and leave the people to sort the trouble out as per usual they have screwed us over everyway they can and expect us to fight for a country theve given away
The biggest threat to the UK is internal, expecting British citizens to fight abroad and leave this country exposed is madness.
General says we are going to face 10 difficult years, but puts the blame on russia. It's called finding a scapegoat.
This strategy of choosing an external enemy to make people forget internal crises and especially to look away from internal culprits is as old as the world.
Young people today are not as naive as the boomers who still rule our decadent countries think. Their desperate maneuvers to save their collapsing system are as pathetic as they are counterproductive.
The 1991 of Western Europe has arrived. Soon we will see these rats sneaking off the ship like the Soviet leaders did more than 30 years ago. Whether in Brussels or in the City.
We have no reason to fight for the countries of the former eastern bloc. Neither NATO nor the EU had any reason to expand into these territories.
This general said it himself, it's a "civilizational war", isn't it (it's no longer the Arabs and the Muslims?... Interesting...). Hence, Eastern Europe in its whole (and not just Russia) is a different civilization. Why then intervene in their affairs? why die for them ?
We would have to fight for our country if we are threatened by another Hitler surely?
@@Rayblondieapparently these cowards wouldnt bother. Scares me really
We had freedom . But traitors of great Britain has given it all away. Sold it all of .
@@RayblondiePutin isnt great but he is no Hitler. Our biggest threat is WEFminster
I find it funny that rich men tell me who my enemy is and then proceed to get richer over my dead and broken body on a battlefield...(unknown)
That is exactly it, they make the cash while we die for their greed. THEY CAN FUCK OFF, I did my bit I'm done.
The war mongers these days are the war PROPHETEERS....... personally, I prefer non-prophet organisations.
How did you type that if you're dead??
@@siphotheguy1870 It's called "poetic license" which is just another way of describing woke stupidity.
A call to arms goes far beyond the current government, in whom I have no confidence or trust, but if my country needs me to stand against Islam and its oppressors, I will be there, even at the ripe old age of 66. I served in the Falklands so will do my bit again, even if that is just beach patrols to prevent the current invasion that is happening.
I wouldn't fight for the UK now. However, I WOULD fight within it to get my culture back!!!
🎯🏴🏴🏴🏴
Amen Brother! 👊 👍
What culture? 😂
@@thugmonk9837
Bukkake with your mum
@@thugmonk9837 Stiff upper lip, flying our flags, no fucking mosques, no fucking grooming gangs. A man is a man and a woman is a woman ...shit like that !!!
To be honest WHY would the British people want to fight for freedom when our veterans are NOT looked after by the government?
Thanks,I know first hand
What is this Freedom you speak of?
Who told you that UK 2023 is a free country?
Free for who? Free stuff for who?
Free speech? Not in UK 2023.
2024 its got worse@@jamesrowntree108
Bloody good answer Angel, you're my favorite x
@@jamesrowntree108 It`s 2024, shhhh.
I served 22 years in the British Military. Having arrived at the conclusion that we're no longer the good guys, there's no way I would serve now.
Agreed, but I don’t think any governments are good guys anymore. Especially not Russia.
I’m Irish we where on different teams maybe we rubbed shoulders in bygone days but I personally never hated the troops, an old man told us they are like you fighting for there people hate the uniform the system they serve not the man. I wish you well soldier I’m sorry you learned this lesson to late.🇮🇪.
Thanks for coming out…
Even “us” who witnessed British colonialism around different places, are still stunned to this day, by Britain’s dirty politics and far reaching plans, so unimaginable. Reality CAN be stranger than fiction…
Sir thanks for your service. Sir I want to know your opinion about pm rishi. In my opinion he not good for the people of great Britain. He let the country down
I am 17 and healthy enough to be called up if it happens, but the problem I've seen among others like me that I share with them is that nobody wants to fight and die for a country that hates them.
Well said, especially for a bulls**t narrative.
Don’t worry.. we are not letting this happen to you.. EVER
@@Julieoscar1 Agreed, I have a wonderful 24 year old son, and he will definitely not be going anywhere.
This is coming from an ex frontline British soldier, we send our kids out there, it would be like WW1 revisited, no way, not again. I am totally with you on this Saveme. 👍
Then don't fight, be strong and ignore the lies from this government.
don't do it the Ukraine war is a money making scam zelensky is corrupt.
No native English will fight for this country after it told us it isn't even our country. Let the politicians fight.
don't think they will lead by example do you ?.
And the illegals 😅
Oh i agree
I'll fight on home soil. I've done my time in uniform, and it isn't the Russians that are the enemy. The enemy illegally and unlawfully infest every establishment here since that tw@t Cromwell let them back in.
Yes I agree I'm half Irish half Maltese but I was born here it is sad to see how this country I call home has treated its citizens over the last decade why would you fight for a country that excluded s it's own people from the basics ,a home ,a decent pay a family, fuel to keep warm ,food a decent standard of living .what exactly would we be fighting to keep we have nothing to lose 🇬🇧
There is no country without borders
What can youngsters be proud of?
Okay John Lennon.
Well Russia wants to expands its borders, but when does it stop? The balance in power in Europe is of great concern to Britain
Blair invited 10 million East Europeans . So Putin looks and smiles.@@somethingelse516
A few nursery rhymes.@@MetalFan10101
Let the media and the politicians and the illegal immigrants asylums fight its not our country anymore
who msaid britain was yours ? not even before was not yours , they say the word " your " to trick and send in war and viollence and bullygn but is nto yours , is never been yours , is was a lie so you go to war
Politicians are the biggest threat to our country !!
yo. and the police
well there are more illegal aliens than British in the country, so it’s fair that the British are not going to fight to protect the illegal aliens are radical Muslims in the country. And UK NOW HAS A PUPPET KING, WHO IS WEAK AS SLEEPY JOE. BOTH IN THEIR DYING YEARS DESTROYING GREAT COUNTRIES, and expect the youth to go fight.
Politician's. Are the the Mafia
And the media
Corporations own government, media ,no parties all owned
I fought for my country for 15 years, but the government have given it away?
Gave it away, all wrapped with a big daft bow on top SMH
The West has sold out. Every western country being overran with the enemy. Foreigners who have an agenda be it free housing,schooling,medical care but also we know what else they bring. No respect no morales they do not want to integrate and play the race card victims all the time.
Well government is rather complicates,apparently sovereignty not that. Important.
Can you tell me which country you were fighting against and how they were a direct threat to the UK?
15 years huh who did you fight ? I didn't notice any hordes coming over the horizon 😂
As a veteran, I suggest conscripting all the seditious politicians and peers who have treated our veterans with utter contempt and as 2nd class citizens.
Bring it on ! Well said xx
They'd be f@#king useless .
The absolute joke is that some of the Government have been in the military! And they STILL hate British people and our historic culture and values!
Absolutely they treat us all with contempt and now they need us, they can go do one
Yeah, we can start with the traitorous Farage and his Putinist mates.
This country is not worth fight for anymore… we’ve been all sold out.
to globalist elite?
not fighting for people who hate me for being white
Exactly!
Same people you hate for being brown/black?
well, thats on colonial britain tho^^....
not really. since it's the same globalists who ran colonial britain.
oh and Jews funded 50% of the british empire. ^^....
the average british citizen back then earned £1 a day in todays money.@@mho...
Anyone who would fight for this country must be mad, you are basically fighting for migrants, utter madness
Correct you go to war and while your away getting killed the migrants take over
They want to recruit an entire generation of white men, to fight Russia.
While they import millions of Muslims and Africans who hate us.
Hmmmmm....
I bet no new migrants will go to war for the country they migrated too
you are fighting for migrants and central bankers.
Especially the Angles, Saxons, Romans and Normans. 😂😂😂
Can't even wave a Union jack, in our own country let alone, joining up, natives treated like crap
You cannot wave the Union Jack?? Cobblers. You can wave anything you bloody like - except a Palestinian flag because that means you are definitely a terrorist and antisemitic - in the minds of the knuckle draggers anyway
Correct 👍🏻 no chance you can’t trust the traitors!
Yeah you can. You are talking a load of shit. And you call the left 'snowflakes' 😅😅
why wouldn’t i fight for my country???? because it is not my country anymore.
That’s why I moved to the Republic of Ireland last year.
same issues there man.
neo-marxists own it.
little mustache man warned euope oh how he warned europe of the marxists. but they did not listen.
@@RobertTrombley-g6l
POLITICIANS GETTING RICH IN WAR WHILE OUR POOR CHILDREN GET SENT TO FIGHT THOSE POINTLESS WARS WHILE OUR COUNTRY GOES TO THE WALL 😢
We need a REVOLUTION!! British people grow a backbone!
Nah. Mustn’t grumble.
20 years,too late!
Nigel is a nobhead
Pfft and replace with what? A far right government that hates everyone who's not pro white?
"But...but...I mean...whatabout...gammon
...give your head a wobble...cry harder"
As a veteran I have never felt more like a 3rd class person in a country I loved. My daughter is a young teenager who can’t even sing the National Anthem as it’s no longer taught at school!!!! We just have incredibly weak leaders and corrupt politicians even down to a lot of our councils leaders who hide behind bureaucratic corruption . Shocking and very shameful. I for one am devastated of what our country has become. 😢😢😢
I ask who is running our public institutions, our local councils, the government. I saw a video today where Redbridge Council said an Islamic prayer before a council meeting. It was not a long time ago they stopped Christian prayers before council meetings in that Borough. Now there is talk of Labour introducing Islamophobia Laws, criminalising those that don't believe in this ideology. Blasphemy laws in favour of one privileged religion. We have trans ideology in our schools. Contested ideology taught as fact.
@@AngelaHaveyislam runs UK now.
This is equally a function of a weak native population that cannot muster up the warring spirit to overthrow the criminal government that rules over them. In theory, King Charles III could use the bully pulpit to rally the legacy population to go against a rogue regime. Sadly, he is as weak as Queen Elizabeth and will just let the U.K. fall.
Plenty of conscripts arriving daily will cut illegal immigrants immediately
They come pre trained in the use of stabby knives which is an advantage.
If johnny foreigner is called up will there be rubber dinghies heading back to France.
@@joeheaton4927 Conscription, now that would be a good way to stop the boats.
watch how quick they leave and how much more damage that will do to us, they account for over 50% of population growth now we have let it get so bad, and you would not want them in our military at such a time seems as they are here for the money not to integrate which means they would be more than Ok with sabotage for personal benefit
Good idea, but who will they side with??
I am not willing to allow my son's to risk their lives to fight for a shambles of a country that holds the indigneous people in such low regard.
Brilliant 😮
Racist, bigoted nonsense. It’s people like you that make me worry
Exactly
The UK is a collection of different ethnicities that just happen to be ruled by particular king or queen. The concept of people = a nation is modern. Richard the Lion heart was a French speaker who happened to rule England and bits of France. If the English kings had their way we would share a nationality with France
indigenous Brits are long gone mate or interbred with Romans, Normans, anglo saxon and more. Very very few Brits can trace back to 100% celt
Why would I fight for a country I've been taught to be ashamed of? Being an English patriot is frowned upon.
Frowned upon by who? People who ain't British? 🤡 Mate fuck who frowns because you love your country grow some bollocks lad fuck em stay patriotic 💪🏻🇬🇧
Smart man. Only stupid people will fight for them.
@@londonassassin9894 and join the enemy? Let people who don't like war remain neutral.
Sorry don't be blaming migrants for your cowardice in not defending Engerrland.. Your ancestors will be turning in their graves ..No more chanting Engerrland till I die bollocks anymore.
Because as a patriot u know whoever is saying that to u is wrong
The biggest threat to our familes, culture and way of life comes from our ruling class 🙈
Yes it does these people are mad and would rather send your children to die in some god forsaken land then continue to pay for the working and middle class British people
Just don`t mention the jews eh.
@@derekwatson7037 your views in that regard are equally as bigoted as those you hate who blame other groups of people for the acts of a small minority of there group. The only difference is that you've been given your opinions by a different set of propaganda merchants. Do better. Try thinking independently. United we stand, divided we fall.
As a vet myself, I’d never go to war for these corrupt animals!
If the British went to war now it would only benefit the Muslim. I wouldn't fight for that lot. Globalism is a menace.
Same here oppo’
Then you will have to fight on your own like me.....because if YOU don't die for SOMETHING then you will die for NOTHING when Islamism and Communism come to take your country and family away from you and change then into 'Believers', to be like them.
Are you ok with this?
Sorry but what government was in when u joined the military
The small hat people
The real enemy is our own politicians.
All in the reset plan, we turn on them the world has a one world government.
👍
WEF/ globalists
We voted for them. More fool us.
We didn’t vote for them , no one voted for the last two prime ministers, they are all elites lining their own pockets , lying to the public to protect their investments and investors , WEF, energy companies , military industrial complex, and pharmaceutical companies
There's no way my son or daughter will be going to war for this country now. Nothing worth fighting for.
I will fight for all our kids to stop them being sent to the meat grinder I will unleash hell.
Correct 💯
What about those young, brave men coming on boats every day? Are they not worth fighting for?
Err...perhaps a country for them to keep living in? It's really that simple
@@DilbertWhiteheadNot listening to anyone with your music taste mate 😂
Our fight is from inside, not outside
We can’t even fly our flag without being told to take it down by council
what ever happend to the british back in the day that would have caused a drunken riot
What's this obsession with flags all about then? Surely there are far more important things to be concerned about than a flag on some shitty council building, that somehow brings you a vacuous and false sense of national pride?
Well said.
@@ohdearism Its simple its supporting who we are. Not as a mark of hatred but being proud.
@@nicholasweaver7809 Proud of what exactly? And how would you define who 'we' are, considering we're all individuals with our own unique and subjective experience of the world? Take pride in your own achievements only. Pride in a symbol is just vacuous.
It’s fine to talk about the 40s generation’s willingness to fight, but they were fighting for a totally different country to ours today. Yes politicians come and go, but they’ve irreparably changed the face of the county in doing so. This is not the same country (or world) as it was back then.
Not worth fighting for.
Because we the public let it happen though.
Yes, That old fool's talking absolute rubbish.
Completely agree.
@colinmelling6369, excellent comment.
Defend the English channel first. Massively scale back immigration. Start a return program.
It’s Australia Day today, and down under the natives are asking for the exact same thing “a return program”😂
Got a feeling if we were put on a war footing their would be a fleet of boats leaving the uk .
Yeah, get all your troops out from all the third world countries and give back all you've stolen, or just taken from them under the name of the commonwealth and maybe you wouldn't have an immigration problem, let alone a war that noone wants.
Exactly. I don't think many people would be too thrilled to leave their country to fight abroad knowing that they are leaving their homes and family vulnurable to the enemy within.
South Africa got flooded with illegal immigrants once the borders were open in the 70's and onwards the country became so unrecognisable it was so disheartening 😭💔😭💔
Do NOT Comply. Stand up and tell them NO!
NOONE will fight for the Establishment. NOONE
Absolutely
I struggle to get a doctor’s appointment, I had to strike to get an increase in pay, I can’t afford to buy a house. I won’t be fighting for this continually extractive nation where our politicians seem to become more and more inept.
Wouldn’t lift a finger to fight for an Islamic U.K.
Less than 7% of people who live in this country are Muslim.
Same
Give your head a wobble ffs. We are not an Islamic country!!!
We have no borders, so we don't really have a country, our police force is useless, our politicians are vile, we are fleeced every day with fines and taxes, we can't afford to buy a home, and we are fast becoming a Muslim country, what is there to fight for?
Bullseye 🎯
We shouold fight to get our country back. Viva Guy Fawkes!
@@acousticguitarcrazy6385 Brexit??? I’ve seen no Brexit.
Well said
If we go off to fight, will the country be safe from the enemies within?
As British people we are being constantly told if were patriotic we are racist and must lower our flags and allow others to raise theirs, the leaders may change but the agenda never does seems each one just follows the other,
Who is pushing this madness? ✡🕎 and they boast about it.
Interesting how is quick to auto-delete comments that agree with your points. It's no mystery that management is identical to the cosmopolitans that are taking down the U.K. and the West in general.
The country has to love you back and the problem here in the UK is that the native British people are being treated in an horrendous way by this Tory government and their insane WEF agenda. The state needs to change its ways or our country will be lost.
It already is. Look at the comments - nobody cares.
Its already lost
Not just the Tories Blair started mass uncontrolled immigration turning our country into what it is today with the help of incompetent Tories
Not just Tory, labour also prior
The country is lost, been lost for a long time , no one fighting for uk let russia take it putin will sort the immigrants out
One important mistake. This isn't a conservative government. It's a WEF government........ big difference as we're seeing🙏
Precisely. Paid for or blackmailed by globalists with way toooooooo much money to act humanely...
The WEF is a sibling of the WHO. The WHO is an NGO.
🤔
@@MonaLisa-lu8zi yes, the WHO and that Tedros character are all controlled by the wizards behind the curtain.
It was Rothschild who said a while ago before he died, "we need to get the whole world ran like China"
And here we all are heading that way at warp speed!
Make sure you're wearing your tin foil hat. Bill Gates is coming to gobble you up.
💯 True!
The first people coscripted must be the politicians sons and daughters plus those who are coming here iillegally to prove how much they truly love this country .
Well, we have hundreds of thousands of new population to send first. What a great way for them to show their loyalty.
What train these Islamic fanatics to fight. I hope not.
Great idea. And watch them all jump back in a dinghy and go back to France 😂.
I think you mean millions! They'll no doubt all be on the first dinghys back to France if Britain goes to war with Russia😂😂😂
@@garyb3689 I know that. They cant just sail back to africa in a dinghy, they got to go through all the safe countries again
Why can't we have a British Foriegn Legion, like the French?
Im ex forces, back then i truly believed this country was worth fighting for. I will never fight for this country, its quite frankly not worth it, absolutely ruined from top to bottom
@MattBrocklebank lol...imagine being so proud of a culture that was so shallow and fragile it shattered on a rainbow.
BY POLITICIANS/MEDIA/ESTABLISHMENT/WOKE BRIGADE!
WHO SIDE WESTMINSTER ON??? Border wide open !!!
not on the peoples side thats for sure . its almost like they hate us .
Good job that we took back control of our sovereign borders with Brexit. 😂😂😂
@alisonbrown1841, The UK has a border? I've not seen it since Blair took office
@@matthewcook9404 Are you thinking that the problem is there's not enough bureaucrats running our lives ?
If he said 'Civil War' i d believe it more.
Yes
I’d fight if it was against the politics.
Blair sent the school leavers to so called Univerity to waste instead of the services and Apprenticeships. Blair the complete fool.
When did you finish education?
he did it on purpose
Do we ever finish our education. It's what route we are aimed at. The "woke" world of Blair was not a good direction. @@wundurra24
@@johntooth1886 Donald did,he's a stable genii or was it genius....no matter,neither are true.
I am absolutely convinced he did.@@bobtudbury8505
Sorry mate, they don't just meen they would not fight for the polititions, they meen they would not fight for those here who hate us.
That's ok mate. I know what you meen.
Or even "mean".....?@@fluxington
💯 percent. I served in RN and was proud to do so. I had a queen I was willing to serve but now we have fairy queen's who rule military.
@@fluxingtonlol
The biggest fight we have is battling with our politicians that are constantly attacking the public.
Here here.
I can see a call being sent out to Military Veterans to return to active duty, because that’s the ONLY way we’d be able to protect our Country. As a Veteran myself, I know many of us would answer that call because we love our Country, but if the Government continues to eliminate our own rights in our own Country, that call will go unanswered. The Government should be mindful of that before they pass any more Laws that destroy our culture, heritage, history and rights. Just a thought!
Great idea
The Government can now find a use for all of the veterans they’ve dumped on the streets .
Sorry, I clicked no on the poll. And I didn't mean fighting for the politicians as a reason not to. I meant that there is no longer a United Kingdom worth fighting for. I'm 32, a doctor and I've given so much to help the people of this country, only to be told again and again that I'm a lazy millennial. Additionally, what is worth defending? High streets are dead, Englishness is shunned, every religion but Islam is thrown under the bus, crime is totally out of control. Can someone tell me what exactly I'd be fighting for please?
For people like you it's worth it mate. Thank you for your efforts!
Well said👍
It boils my blood to hear idiots like that guy attack young people for being lazy, most of them have no chance of buying a house now and our economy is crashing so there won't be any decent jobs soon. I'm old enough to remember life in the 80s and I left college in 89/90 and entered the worse force during a terrible recession when there was 3 million unemployed. I can still remember walking around Manchester with a CV (with almost nothing on it) and going into recruitment agencies and being laughed out the door for having no experience. I fear we will see a repeat of that, there are plenty of terrible jobs that barely pay more than benefits but we need quality jobs which means we need to build real profit making industries here instead of outsourcing them all to foreign countries.
As a parent I wouldn't want my son going to fight a war started by a foreign country.
The war has been started by our Government.
Isn't that what Britain did in the Gulf War?
I wouldn't fight for our politicians but I will fight to stop them sending our kids to their death
@TaffyOwen72 ''As a parent I wouldn't want my son going to fight a war started by a foreign country'' He wouldn't get there with your stupid 20MPH speed limits.....
Yes
The older indigenous population feel there is nothing worth fighting for, my Mom Dad and my uncles are turning in their graves to see what they had fought and died for
When you are told not to show the English flag in England, when you are told being proud of your country is wrong, when you are told not to complain that you are being beaten down, why would anyone suddenly get all patriotic and fight for this government?
Sounds like America and American flag. Why would our own country shame us for celebrating our flags? Because our governments have been bought out by others who want to destroy us from within. We are already at war but not in a way we have ever seen or experienced before. No bombs, no guns. Just invasion at our boarders and the treason of our own government officials against us.
No but tgats precisely when you must fight your government....and if you can't then you don't wait to die at the hands of Islamist EVIL....so you will fight for SOMETHING or you will die for NOTHING?
You wouldn't be fighting for the government, which is a transient body. You would be fighting for your family, friends, neighbours, villagers, townsfolk and countrymen
@@DonaldMackay-x7sYou would be fighting for the government. They control the military
@@DonaldMackay-x7s So he'd be fighting for his family, friends, neighbours, villagers, townsfolk and countrymen against the Russian transient body?
When the past 20-30 years have been spent carelessly erasing all instincts of patriotism in the younger generations on the grounds of how terrible their country is, and how awful their history is - it's pretty hard to imagine much enthusiasm being generated in those of call-up age to rally round the flat.
@sarrhodes8277: I agree, except for the "carelessly".
By design ,
Send all politicians 1st!
When you deny us being patriotic, you can’t expect us to be once again to defend the once great country.
Exactly. They’ve F**ked themselves over by eroding our patriotism.
The UK is a collection of different ethnicities that just happen to be ruled by particular king or queen. The concept of people = a nation is modern. Richard the Lion heart was a French speaker who happened to rule England and bits of France. If the English kings had their way we would share a nationality with France
The British people have been put down, ignored, demonized and oppressed for decades, being a patriotic Brit and you are called a racist and a bigot. Thousands of British veterans sleep rough on the streets while illegal immigrants are cozy in hotels at our expense. Thats why Brits, indigenous Brits will not be willing to fight, why should they? @@somethingelse516
Yes funny how they can shift what's right and wrong at a whim to suit their agenda. Send the woke mob they'll bore the enemy to death.
@CuteCuteCute-02 what I put is aligns with the modern historiographical consensus. The nation state and ethnic nationalism only became crystallised with the Napoleonic wars. Before that, personal loyalty was more associated with the monarch or lord than the modern concept of the nation. Even early modern or medieval monarchs didn’t always readily associate themselves with a particular national identity. For example, Fredrick the Great of Prussia didn’t really think of himself as German, instead he preferred French culture and language. The Plantagenets, like Richard I, had domains in France and spent a lot, even most, of their time there. If you lived in Aquitaine (modern day France) your loyalty lay with the English King. From Edward III’s time the English kings laid claim to the French throne, they even put the arms of French first on their coat of arms. Burgundy (modern day France) allied with the English kings over the French monarch despite the ruling family being related to the French kings. Why? Because the concept of loyalty to an ethnic nation just wasn’t what it became in the 19th century.
Again the concept of the modern nation state linked to ethnicity is not old.
What is the level of your most advanced qualification in history? Are you able to use historical evidence and examples to support your claims?
As a English man in England I won’t be helping the British
We need everyone to do what they can in different ways... From this Saturday Telford Tommy Robinsons march...
@@RaggaPuddin
Words only work when people are willing to listen.
Yes I hear you and agree 🏴🏴🏴
Me neither - nor my family. They can’t jail us all 😂😂😂
And you wonder why this country is in the sate it's in, where's OUR OWN fighting age MEN ?
At the football or identifying as burds, Brendon is now Brenda
I'm not going to Russia or China or Middle East to die. I'm staying here and supporting my family, going to work and provide.
If the war is brought to our country I'm sure we will all defend our country instinctively
Couldn't agree more!
My grandfathers shed blood for this country in foreign lands and my father was shot in Aden and after recovering sent back to the front line there to be injured by a grenade it ruined his life. My sons will NOT be sent to war.
I suggest that GRANT SHAPPS should lead the way , with a contingent of our " BRAVE MPs " !
That would wipe the smirk off his face.
Problem with the space bar again?
You are kidding . The man with half a dozen jobs . Puppet
and take the House of Lords with him too
And their children…
I am 30 years old and can promise if i got called up to fight for this country i will be going to prison instead, I will not fight for this country to protect the migrant that are living here, i
Apparently there isn’t any room in their any how . That’s why are streets are so dangerous
The reality is you wouldn’t fight regardless.
All over social media we are hearing this from people on all ends of politics and it’s from men who have never fought,will never fight.
If you loathe these migrants why didn’t you fight against them in Iraq and Afghanistan just for the pleasure of defeating a “racial enemy”.
Stop making excuses.
You haven’t got it mate. Open another can of coke and remember you ain’t the bloke you think you are on telegram.
you wont' go to prison. There will be too many to jail. They would probably prefer to fine you - get some money out of you instead. I'm probably too old to be calle dup but wouldn't if I wasn't anyway. I would let them fill their diveristy quotas first - as it measn so much to them.
I don't have any quarrels with any other countries or the people in them. Why should I support politicians in their disputes with other politicians?
Not me. Count me out. I won't fight for a country that doesn't fight for me.
Not saying anything considering the liberals wouldnt fight for anyone anyways execpt criminals and terroists
Why would we leave to fight for this country and leave our women in children alone when all this countries doing is letting thousands of immigrants in illegal immigrants ?
women and children ?
Exactly
Thats the point, they want us gone because it will make us easier to replace, the new comers will not be sent and the woman will be encouraged to breed with them like in the adverts.
Exactly what I was thinking. No way would I be leaving my family at the mercy of my towns recent forced enrichment
Wtf are you on about? Stop reading the sun and daily heil, mate
IM NOT GOING TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY MY GRANDFATHER DID AND WHAT FOR LOOK AT THE STATE OF THIS COUNTRY ? - I SUGGEST YOU GET THE IMMIGRANTS IN THE HOTELS TO FIGHT FOR IT .
I bet I could not walk to my local town center carrying the Union Jack without being challenged by police or attacked by Immigrant5. My country has been decimated.
Same here especially cause I live in Scotland and in a part where they all hate being part of the UK. It's a shame and it needs to be fixed
You're at the back of the queue for the benefits, but the front when it comes to defending the country. Why would you defend people who think you're scum? How does the saying go? Hoisted by your own petard. Fuck 'em.
It is a hegemonic problem of elites and not of people.
Yes, the elites want war, not the people
Why havnt this government been charged with high treason.
I couldn't fight for a country I don't recognise...
I would not risk our youngsters lives fighting for a country we have already given away ❤️🇬🇧❤️🇮🇱
Excellent 😮
Youngsters can not even hold a job down let alone go to war
@@nicholasweaver7809nothing to be proud of going to war buddy. I will not be going if called up, any military which kills commits genocide
@@nicholasweaver7809well said 👏
@@nicholasweaver7809the economy is in a dire state
What on earth are we gallivanting around the world as if we're some sort of super power when our own country is being invaded everyday on the beaches of Dover 😮...
The UK has tens of thousands of new troops, they all came here in a rubber boat so once they get their citizen ship get em drafted get em trained and get em ready for the front line!!! They wanted to comer here so they can truly earn their right to be here!!!!!
No chance they will refuse.
And they will turn on us with the RIGHT training.
Sorry pal. They're too busy working in the local kebab houses or delivering British folks takeaways to spare the time.
usually arrives cold as well@@klawlor3659
True, you are exempt from fighting if you can show a valid receipt for a takeaway order.
im 68 at the moment ,i would not sacrifice my life to satisfy the greed of the criminals that govern and rule this country and then be liveing on the street when the fighting is over no way .
Unfortunately the ex Royal Navy Man is so out of touch with the Downtrodden endemic British people. We now feel like second class citizens in our own country. Undervalued until War is on the horizon. ! So we would say , The establishment has nothing but contempt for us , so fight your own war !!
I see a desperate government who have mismanaged the currency and national debt scrambling for a war to get voted in. It’s amazing what people will do for power.
Why would our lads put their lives on the line when governments for years has let in an invading force, treat us with contempt and let veterans sleep on the streets whilst the invading force are put up in hotels, these people have not read the room as usual and got it very wrong.
Especially because London and Manchester lads have a lot more in common with their Moscow and Saint Petersburg peers, than with their own government.
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can't see rishi with u gun tbh
What sickens me is these 2 news presenters smiling away , on the subject of Britain entering a war.
The real fight is within our borders and not abroad so wake up everyone.
What exactly would we be fighting for? Remember, the UK has long gone to the dogs....
Well if they start calling people up to fight ,watch the hotels empty out,an boats heading back to France,
The State can forget calling on me for active duty until the boats are stopped and illegals deported! I've already risked my life for these four nations, never again until Britain is Britain again.
Is that Britain in the time of the Romans ?? Or Angles ?? Or Saxons ??
@@matthewcook9404 That would be Britain just a few decades ago when people who came here had to adapt to our culture instead of the other way around. Where we didn't have police who check people's thinking, where police didn't serve & protect the immigrant before it's citizens. Wake up and get a clue and take your useless comment and shove it!
@@matthewcook9404 Shouldn't you handing out leaflets for Care for Calais something mate?
The Britain that eats bacon, pork, beef and goes to church.@@matthewcook9404
The boats won't be stopped and deportations won't be happening. It would cost the regime way too much money to deport the illegals, plus encouraging more illegals is great for capitalism! They help to keep the demand for housing high, they'll do all the low paid jobs (where would you be without Deliverpoo and Just Bleat?) and they help to divide the native population and distract us from getting too rebellious. What's not to like?!
The other thing this debate brought up to me was my conversation with a full time reservist Sjt who was pressing the DEI elements (to get teens, LGBT, etc, to join the military).
And I couldn’t help but ask “why would you waste your time pandering to a demographic of the UK that would not only never fight for you, but actively hate you?”
LGBT propaganda is a sickness
Eh?
@@manichairdo9265, what he's saying the government can go forth and multiply.
@@pennymcneela7095 Thank you for taking the time to reply. 😁
What did he say? "Orders from the top?" or he is a woke lefty imbecile
English lives and culture matter 🇦🇺
😂 very true, let’s fight to save the life’s of immigrants who deserted there home country’s and will fly home when they get drafted is crazy
@@creamteddyand when the mortgage doesn’t get paid, and the house gets repossessed are used to house immigrants . And I’m not even being sarcastic
@@JC-un4bgImmigrants rule ok.🤗 Especially for the houses.😟
What culture would that be?
Driving to our foriegn subsidiary job in a German car to type away on a Japanese computer before going back to our Polish and Nigerian built houses filled with Swedish flat pack furniture before cracking open a Belgian beer and watching our Japanese telly?
Get ENGLAND Fixed first before we risk our own blood fixing others mess.
A call up to defend UK borders years ago might have gone down better with citizens. Now, people are disheartened, disappointed and downhearted to even care. And who can blame them?The era of go forth and fight for King and country is at an end.
😂😂😂 being a white working class male of fighting age!
There is no way in the world I would fight for this country.
All my adult life , successive governments have made sure I’m the most disadvantaged in society. Putting the rights of minorities above my own.
I would not therefore fight
100%
The Enemy we will be fighting is arriving every day on our beaches .
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Have we not learned our lesson from the previous 2 world wars?
Yes…. It’s a great money spinner
( for the 1%)
No, not when they're orchestrated and planned as part of an agenda.
Politicians to front first.
What exactly would we be fighting too keep, low wages, hyper inflation, sky high house prices, broken education amd health system 😂😂 ffs
Patriotism? We are not allowed to show any patriotism any longer!
Showing patriotism is hate speech according to UA-cam.
Let the politicians go fight! Not US. NO THANKYOU.
Stop the rot, Mandatory Union Flag on every public building throughout the UK would be a start.
Young people called to war How will that happen when they dont even know what gender they are
bullets dont care......
No they dont you are right nor do the corrupt politicians @@mho...
It's not my country anymore, they gave it away.
In the UK, you are better off as an illegal immigrant than a war vet. Why would
We cannot even raise are own flag 🇬🇧 in our own country. Why would I fight for a country that is no longer British 🇬🇧 🤷♂️
Destroyed by nearly all politicians, but really very badly let down most of all by the Treacherous Tories.
Liar....
what are you on about? ive seen flags everywhere.
Send the immigrants who have conned our benefits system for the last 30 years. Sure they would be happy to go to war for us....
End of day, you wouldnt be fighting for your country. You would be fightging for your family and life!
You're either lying or you're just thick or believe everything you read. Possibly even both!
So we are now asked to give our lives for the politicians that have betrayed this nation for decades - Never!
The trouble is we have inherited to many immigrants that have no loyalty to this country, why would you want to give up your life for them?
How many non white faces do you see in todays army? Please.stop watching dads army and take a look
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well said. you are 100% right!!! why would these boat people etc want to fight for the UK although they take our benefits.
Don't speak of the royal family like that !
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaàaaaaaaaaaaaww !
@@alchapman4621 the natives of the UK - that is to say the indigenous white UK population - is too lazy to work. Hence all the immigrants
Successive British governments, Labour & Conservative, have sold off the nations infrastructure, whether it be steel making, chemicals or manufacturing to foreign countries. They've allowed absentee landlords in China and the UAE to buy up huge swathes of UK housing and then charge British citizens extortionate rents. Large areas of London are awash with Russian and Qatari money that also goes on to line the pockets of politicians. Simultaneously the lowest of the low are allowed into the country. They then go on to set up islamic ghettos that despise the British way of life. Other gangs from Albania, the balkans and elsewhere in Eastern Europe are running amok in British cities with sky rocketing knife, gun and drug crime.
Veterans who have gone off to fight for Queen & Country are discarded on their return home. Abandoned after dealing with the horrors of war.
How dare this panel and all the other hawks disparage the British population for not wanting to die for their country when these same people have nothing but contempt for the rest of us. If they want to start a war, they, their children and grand children can be first in line, because these people are the true enemy within, of the British people.
Wow - hear hear!
I couldn't have put that better myself!
Well done - you speak for this white indigenous Brit..
Diversity is our strength. Thats what we're told constantly by every politician, civil servant, public face and media outlet. Well thats fine...let this great 'strength' of ours go and fight for this country. The Windrush descendents, the Pakistani's, the channel dinghi people, the feminists and the wokerati will im sure all be first to sign up. Because our strength does not lie in our young British men, it is not in the sons of the soil. No, our strength is diversity. So lets test that strength.
Well said
Nailed it