Happened to me when I was about 7, undergoing removal of my tonsils under general anaesthetic. Left my body, eyes were looking down on the blue curtain around my bed from the height of the tiles in the ceiling; went to find my mum in the corridor who wouldn’t respond to me talking. When I returned to my body and being awake I could see two healthy elderly people (man stood and woman sat down in a nearby chair and I was racing out to them but no one else could see them). It made a big impression and impact on me. Made me very empathic and also gave me an ability to “see” into the future to some degree. All sounds mad when written down like this but it’s true.
Yea thanks for sharing ur story cuz I've been really struggling on if all this is true or not. And trying to find my purpose and who I am and what happens when I'm done here. It's comforting to know by hearing from those that have had these experiences. Thank you so much. Luv to all.
Happened to me as well. Watched myself be cut out of the back seat of my moms car when I was a kid and "woke up" during being stitched up. The memory of the doctor being startled sticks with me more then the wreck. I just have a still shot in my mind now. I had a very deep NDE during the first round of covid though that changed me all together. We are so loved, accepted and understood by whatever that is. It made me read the Bible alot. That is my form of truth because it's actual counts of people having the same experience and that's what she means about everyone describing it differently. If I attempting to explain the symbols, the feelings, the understanding, and shame I felt for ever not believing before..it wouldn't make sense to others and I know that. Takes time to accept it because at first I wanted everyone to know God was inside us not outside of us and ofcourse you can't throw your pearls to swine (still tunnel vision animals or "machines" as she called them)
Same, about age 5 I had a hernia repair under general anesthesia. Found myself looking down upon the operating table, then sort of floated through the wall of the hospital and found myseld looking down on the busy street that ran in front of the hospital.
I am really happy to see that Essential is engaging with NDE stories and literature! I think these stories have such potential to help people. For me they communicate that there is a loving core to reality in a very direct and emotional way. It's like your heart gets these stories, even if your mind doesn't.
Is it bad if I feel something calling me to die that sort of wiggles whenever it hears these kind of things though? I dunno, maybe it's because my life has been so miserable... Maybe I'm being recalled? I like to imagine that voice is calling me home to scrap me and reintegrate me... But I think I'll live for now.
Our daughter had a near death experience at age 3, due to near drowning in a group swimming pool. At one time, a few years later, she was with my wife at a certain beach location; she started to tell her mum, that there was something about the location that was making her feel uneasy, and my wife casually mentioned to her that a number of people had drowned there, over the years and our daughter animatedly responded: 'That's it, that's it, let's go, I don't like it here!' Just one other incident -and there are others. On one occasion, at primary school, our daughter started to tell some of her friends, that her grandmother had just died. A few hours later my wife arrived, about an hour earlier than usual, and told our daughter that something had happened in the family, which proved to be just as our daughter had revealed to her friends. This is a very interesting interview, with Dr Donna, there's far too much 'swept under the carpet' and pathologised by the high priests of materialism in Western society. Kudos, for the interview.
I'm no academic, but it's so refreshing to hear from Dr. Thomas; breaking from material-reductionist science, recognizing "paranormal" experiences, integral theory-type cooperation, and bringing consciousness into all this research with kids & social areas where they're not treated/viewed as bio-machines. And so much more that I won't get into. It does give one hope that things can actually change for the better! Great & exciting work!
The most vital question for each and everyone of us, "Who/what am I"? She knows, experientially, she is not the body? No one is. So what is the full, never changing reality. The body, mind, sight, hearing, world, people etc. change constantly. Love this conversation. More like this, please.🙏
I have been grieving my whole life because these questions have always been of utter importance to me in a world that simply ignores them, and doesn’t even dimension them. I studied philosophy with the aim of understanding myself and the world around me-and I’m glad there are academics like this that allow children to have the space to develop psychospiritually and look at themselves clearly.
I had a NDE aged 4. If it's any comfort for a parent of a child who has drowned I did not suffer the transition. I remember the saltness of the water but that's all. I did not struggle and any suffering did not happen. I floated out of a peaceful body into a new state of being The only bad bit was coming back. And the resuscitation.
@@lucidberry It happened in July 1967. In September of that year, I started nursery school. That was when I became increasingly aware that I was not a child anymore. I was an adult male who was trapped in a 4-year-old female's body with amnesia. When I did have memories and dreams they were of other people and other times, places, and families. I was in the wrong family. What came out of the water that day had changed. I still feel that all these years later. That little girl had the right idea. She knew what she was doing.
@@juliebarks3195I had an OBE as a 6 year old in 1968 when I fell headfirst into a mechanics’ pit. Time stood still. I saw my body lying prone at the bottom. I watched the rescuers come to ‘save’ me. It was a timeless experience. Later on remember vividly telling my mother it all seemed to take so long … I’m 61 now. Recall it all like it was yesterday and have always done so. As I grew up I always felt different from the other kids as if I knew something they didn’t.
58:40 "The wonderful thing about children is they are natural philosophers." This gives me hope as it points to a capacity innate and still alive (if obscured) in each of us. Thank you.
Right on cue! Just last night I was searching Essentia’s youtube page wishing there were more videos about NDE’s alongside the excellent interview you did with Dr Van Lommel. Here we are, thank you very much.
.. and a lovley intervuing model... we even hear the intervuer is breathing inn / inspiering the information dr. Tnomas is bringing forward ... lovely !
When i was a child, i could see things no one else saw but whenever i told people, they laughed it off. I buried that part until recently when i randomly predicted the death of both of my parents. Its so important to not make fun of children and just let them be themselves
As one of the first born, of a large family, I/we had plenty of opportunity to engage with siblings that told us of their 'other' life, unfortunately we older kids, wasted our time, and theirs, by correcting their grammar; 'It's not when I was old, it's when I get old', I'll be a train driver'. Listen carefully to little kids, they have stories to tell that don't need a grammar checker.
So are all these deaths just npC playing dead or they just lie about other people or some AI made a green screen background. I don't think I have seen anyone die in my personal life
This is the morst serios talk about reserch I have heard on UA-cam ! - Dr. Thomas is taking it all sorts of context - you dont even se this high qality to resarch in basic psycological studies. Verry, verry god . Thanks for your god work
Beautiful work of research with children. And, not surprising that the capacity to understand these experiences deeply, even non-linguistically, comes from Dr Donna Thomas's personal experiences. Thank you for this gentle, thoughtful and thought-provoking interview.
This is very important research. As a child, I had an NDE and many ESP experiences which were validated by a very empathic grandmother. Early validation is so important in order to trust ESP. Also, try researching the work of Carl Jung who founded psychotherapy. I was a psychotherapist for 23-years and taught students about the collective psyche where all knowledge is stored. We have individual, family, national psyches, etc. This phenomenon is how fish, birds and all creatures can move perfectly in swarms. However, humans have a complex psychology and an often misplaced sense of 'me, mine and I'. Good luck!
Play some music and humans can act synchronized. I understand the jist however. I don't wish to poo poo your comment. We humans do seem to have difficulty in working together instead of one upping the next person.
The most articulate, intelligent and wise being I've heard speaking about this very important topic in relationship to children. 🦋 With humility and appreciation 🕉️🙏
Ive found that you never know what a child may say. When my granddaughter was 4 she mentioned that she had picked me out to be her grandmother. She told me about a place before here and that she was shown 2 women and told to pick one. My grandson told me about a time when he was a 'big person' and that my daughter and I were sisters and he was our grandfather. He is on the autism spectrum. He told my daughter about a house he said he lived in and she told him he had not lived there. He described some of the house. She was pregnant with him when her and I had lived in this house for a short time. He said he saw the house and was able to see it from 'mommy's tummy'. He said that he could see out of something that was like a window and yet not quite a window.
I had all these experiences including NDE at 3. Telepathy, extreme empathy aka trans personal self, dreams which translate into reality and a sort of lack of boundary between the conscious and unconscious. I could pin my experience to many different diagnosis 😂. At the moment I am researching psychedelic experiences and NDE and how this relates to early childhood experiences. I’m not a child anymore. Lol. 43. I’m compiling info for a book. ❤🎉
My daughter when she was under two used to talk about flying with the girl ghost at night and she would talk about the bad man and she would describe them perfectly and what the bad man drove as his car and we lived in the farmhouse where a young girl with mental challenges who is horribly abused by her father and his friends she had drowned in the pond behind the house I thought it was absolutely amazing I would just listen to her tell me the stories all the time in the bedroom my daughter stayed in used to be the bedroom of this young girl
I’d love to hear her take on foreign accent syndrome (FAS)… I’ve never heard of children having FAS but as a linguist myself, I find any physicalist explanations to fall ridiculously short (e.g., apraxia) and are far more magical than one that includes access to previous lives or channeling other people’s consciousnesses.
Your channel is my most favorite when it comes to the topics that are less explored - an attempt to mainstream ways. I will extremely appreciate it if you go on podcast too, or sharing the audio version of the discussions because where I live, the cost of internet is super high and speed is low. Thank you
This is such important research. It also makes me wonder the implications for AI and consciousness as it develops in that arena. Thank you for this interview.
Sounds extremely similar to a DMT trip, which is indigenous in the brain. "Moving through a tunnel or spiral" "feeling more real than real" " Meeting entities or feeling overwhelming love."
There have been experiments done with DMT to replicate the experience and people who have had a real NDE say it's not the same even though some parts seam simular
People who have had nde’s and tried dmt and other hallucinogenic drugs say that the experiences may sound similar on paper but are not the same at all, that the drugs don’t even get close to the nde
I did dmt one time and was stuck in the tunnel and wanted to make it through but couldnt... lots of fractals and felt a bit of a motherly but stern vibe.
IMPORTANT- i hope that you at Essentia noticed that Neil Turok has expressed appreciation about Kastrup, would be AWESOME to have the two chatting together !!! (btw great interview this one )
@@essentiafoundation sure, in Theories of Everything of Curt Jaimungal "Neil Turok Answers Questions About the Universe" hea speaks briefly of Kastrup at the beginning and more lengthily at the end. link (first reference at min 3) ua-cam.com/video/OYeC_BNWosE/v-deo.html
@@essentiafoundation ""Neil Turok Answers Questions About the Universe | Rethinking the Foundations"" in Theories of Everything of Curt Jaimungal. He makes a first reference to Kastrup at min 3 and more longer at the end of the interview.
We can find this subject matter all over the the internet in the spiritual arena. However, its never from a clinical view. This will carry more weight with the non-spiritual population. Giving validity to what some of us already know.
Amazing work and interview. If this is of interest to you, you may wish to research Peter Fenwick's work. Also for Essentia Foundation, you may wish to reach out to Peter and ask him over for an interview. I'm sure your audience would appreciate his wisdom. Thank you!
47:47 - Yes, the western-biomedical-materialist world-view can be likened to macroscopic Newtonian physics as a method of interpretation (hermeneutic), which is sufficient for measuring physical stuff in a finite and mundane reality, hence, we boldly claim that our brains create consciousness, whereas Einsteinian or quantum physics necessitated a revolution in science whereby we begin to understand that we are not a drop in the ocean; instead, we are the ocean in a drop, and “mutually exclusive phenomena” can both exist at the same time, hence Schrödinger’s cat, and our brains don’t produce consciousness, it produces an illusion of “me-ness and “you-ness” (cogito ergo sum). Cognosco (ergo sum).
The evidence weighs in favour of an afterlife. This is a great interview. Consciousness is fundamental. We are the eternal witness whether we like it or not. My channel covers idealism, science, scepticism, metaphysics, philosophy in general and much more. NDEs are super interesting.
The Rainbow Bridge isn't related to the afterlife for native Americans (there is a rock formation known as that, but not concerned with the afterlife), all I can think of is a pop culture tradition dating from the mid 20th century related to where deceased pets go, or Bifrost, the Norse belief in a rainbow bridge between the human world and the realm of the gods
Our bodies are not the spirit. Its like our car. You are in it and control where it goes. You are not the car but its you who controls it. When it breaks down we take the car to a mechanic. Going to the doctor is like taking your car to some guy down the street rather than to the dealership.
You should have found me 😉 I have perfect recall of my NDE as barely 1yrs old. No tunnels and spirals, etc,. My metaphysical experience was different from all I have learned of from studying this for some decades as an experiencer.
(TBF, 'crossing the rainbow bridge' is a common phrase these days for a pet dying, so it actually isn't impossible that he had heard that in a death context before.) // I was just reading Jung last night, and the mandalas and the cross-cultural themes are very Jungian! // It's funny, you're saying that children around puberty have a lot of PLEs. I think of my middle school years (right around puberty) as being my most spiritual years. I used to constantly experience the phenomenon that CS Lewis calls "Joy" or "Sehnsucht". It stopped as I got older, and I rarely experience it now (at 38). // Calling them "psychotic-like" experiences is SO damaging. It makes me think of what I've read about the Hearing Voices movement, which aims to reframe the experience of hearing voices. The research showed that when people were told that hearing voices was a symptom of schizophrenia and there was no cure, their mental health outcomes were significantly worse than people in cultures that have a more positive explanation for the phenomenon.
Had my nde at 21yrs old back in 08. Only came back because I had a 6 month old at the time and I just couldn't leave her. The warm love, peace, unconditional love and non judgement that I felt was so overwhelming beautiful. Yet I couldn't leave my daughter. I remember saying telepathically that I don't want to leave my daughter. I remember saying but I don't want to leave my daughter I spoke her name. Though I dont recalled seeing anyone I do know someone or something was there speaking to me telepathically. I was seeing pure darkness as thou I was off in space but floating but the darkness was pure unconditional love.I felt no fear at all. I also felt free. Now I am 37 and I know for a fact if I had continued to accept what was happening or if I had went further off I wouldn't have been able to come back and it would have seem as if I had died in my sleep for I was laying down on the bed when it happened. To the world it would have look as if I had died in my sleep.
I can remember a lot of my infancy, and experiences I had as a baby. I had two specific experiences starting when I was a few months old. The first was, I remember falling out of the sky and landing in my body, outside the house we lived in. The stars were so incredibly bright and there were so many of them. I have always remembered this like it was when my "soul" first came into my body. The other experience is in the form of a dream. I had this dream very often as a young child. I would be standing at the edge of a cliff that was partially surrounded by ocean. The next thing I remember is falling off the edge, and I would wake up when I hit the ground. It's strange because the first time I had that dream, I was so young I had never even seen the ocean yet, or scenery that looked like that, I didn't know what a cliff was. But I kept experiencing that dream. Maybe I fell off the cliff and died, and then fell into my current body. I don't know. It sounds crazy. I haven't had the dream at all since I grew up.
I'm jealous. I don't remember most of my life, or *any* of my early childhood. It's probably part of why I have been co-opted so fully by physicalism... Everyone around me always reported such incredible, magical experiences... But I never, ever got one. It felt like I was just unloved or unwanted by God.
The Carmelite nun Bernadette Roberts had a similar experience to this lady. She wrote some unprecedented books that challenged even the standard Christian Mysticism.
Defining the difference between imagination and perception of something objectively existing does not seem to be a problem for the materialistic world view. However, it is interesting how this can be a problem for idealism: in experience, there is no definite border between what is created by an individual mind and what comes from outside of it. Perception is also not something simple: the outer things can be distorted or shaped by the perceiving mind. So the question is not "is this just imagination?", the question is "what kind of interaction has led to this particular experience"?
I hope dying for me isn't meeting loved ones and reaching catharsis... I want loving darkness. I want that so badly. I regret every day that I survived to adulthood...
So on point. She said “what’s the point if there’s no change” The point academia fights for is to make sure that there isn’t change. So the point is no change, decided by zealots.
You can practice dying in your dreams. You need to change your mind aka the way you think about death. In dreams the experience of death multiple times, you may even go to where death are, their space.
I’ve had some weird experiences. One is of a man holding my hand and leading me down white stone steps and my parents waiting at the bottom of the steps and holding their hands out to me. Another when I was 12 I had a terrible realisation that my older brother wouldn’t live a long life. He committed suicide aged 27. 3 weeks after my mother in law passed away she came to me in a dream and that when she died, she woke up laughing when she realised what it was all about. Sometimes when daydreaming I can feel people’s emotions if I look at them. This sort of thing just happens randomly and I don’t think I have any control of it. I also feel that I should healing people but I don’t know how.
I wonder if those entities during a NDE are the same ones when using DMT or other psychedelics. During birth and death huge amounts of dmt are produced in the body
""Trace amounts of DMT have been detectedTrusted Source in the pineal glands of rats, but not in the human pineal gland. Plus, the pineal gland might not even be the main source. The most recent animal studyTrusted Source on DMT in the pineal gland found that even after removing the pineal gland, the rat brain was still able to produce DMT in different regions."" . Anyway my take is that the "separation" of consciousness (that can be just energy+information") from the body can be achieved in different ways with death being the most decise and clean way ... So i think are similar experience but of totally different intensity ... for example in DMT trips they see a lot of ridicolosa creatures or settings while there things does not exists in NDEs.
The Heideggerian scholar Mark Wrathall sees the brain's role as more like a radio than a computer. Heidegger's work has, he believes, undermined the distinction between the subjective and the objective. The work of Roger Penrose on the possible role of a quantum mechanical influence on neuronal microtubules may, if correct, may provide a way to go beyond the actually materially "present", without taking refuge in the supernatural.
if the brain is total dead, nobody came back to tell stories, If you meditate and practice techniques to lucid dream, you will have same visions as in NDE. The pineal gland can do so many things and the body in general. But at the end, we all die.
So when my son spoke to me years after he died physically, then how come he wasn't dead? We don't all die, our physical bodies all die. The real question out of that is, is there another type of 'death' that may happen with a physical death, and that person never speaks or is heard again?
@@septemberamyx if we don't die, and there is a spirit then this world is just a game. In my culture, before the christianity to be a world force, my ancestors believed this world is just a trial for the next world. My father died a few years back, the bank told us he has some checks with money, he never told us, for me seeing my father dids he never loved us, just him! But one night in a dream, i was with him fixing some walls on the stair corridor of the block... And when i woke up, i run in his room and check the highest place of the room... So i found 1-2 checks, don't remember well..the idea is the dream inspired me to find them.. This is a real story that happen to me, but i still think after dead is no coming back... what we dream is what we wish to see, our unconscious mind is weird and doesn't understand reality as our councesnes. And as i said, when you die because of the brain, you will never come back! Im sorry for you're loss, and i wish no pity on me, hope i will see better in time! When i took lsd, my mind told me all of this is fake, and we never die...idk if this is real, but the mind can be very wild when trying to exist this realm with other "adds".
@@septemberamyx sorry, you have a trauma to fix, no god nothing can help you, just you... we all lose people, and our brains can make us feel they never died, amazing i spoke my loss, but youtube hide my comments, proves how real is this world.
@@HaosCosmic gee how wonderfully male and arrogant you sound. You know EVERYTHING! I'll bow down and worship you! You must feel real proud of yourself.
@@septemberamyx im nothing of what you say. I personally see I'm a pos, but im who i want, i study and try to understand the low and the high, is normal to sound arrogant when i type and English not my main language. Nu am vrut sa par arogant, ma vad SI Eu, dar asa sunt de mic, intreb orice, iar ce nu inteleg, caut informatii valide cu licenta sa-mi confirm "prostia".
@user-px3yp4jc5r these are experiences that science can not answer in totality. Roughly %10 of the earth's population has had an NDE. Some never talk about it because it was negative to them. However if others have had a similar experience perhaps it can help inter personally to understand what it was and it means. For instance the overlaps recorded that are similar yet they have different religions, language and ethnicity. For example, traveling through a Tunnel or dark space. These bits of information that are hard to find anywhere but in these context. These bits may help others comprehend what they also experienced.
Saw a shape of a person, made out of plasma like substance, one lunch time in my house, standing in our bedroom doorway. It was all swirling within the shape, colour of the sun, but not illuminating the corridor. I was standing there for a while, unable to move and then I run downstairs to tell my husband who said he just saw something pass the sitting room door. Don't have any other details. I was unable to see if this shape had any legs, as my view was obstructed by a trunk which is positioned near the door where the shape of a human (being) was. It was about 1.5 m tall. Thank you.
Have any children reported near birth experiences...that would really be more significant in proving consciousness isn't produced by the brain. If their brains are developed enough to speak then it producing a nde doesn't really prove anything on the contrary
What is a NBE? I wonder if it's anything like what my son spoke about when he was 3, to me. Before he was born, he was always in white light. Only light.
Happened to me when I was about 7, undergoing removal of my tonsils under general anaesthetic. Left my body, eyes were looking down on the blue curtain around my bed from the height of the tiles in the ceiling; went to find my mum in the corridor who wouldn’t respond to me talking.
When I returned to my body and being awake I could see two healthy elderly people (man stood and woman sat down in a nearby chair and I was racing out to them but no one else could see them).
It made a big impression and impact on me. Made me very empathic and also gave me an ability to “see” into the future to some degree.
All sounds mad when written down like this but it’s true.
Thank you for sharing your experience, this is accepted as your truth and was beautiful to read.
I believ you.
Yea thanks for sharing ur story cuz I've been really struggling on if all this is true or not. And trying to find my purpose and who I am and what happens when I'm done here. It's comforting to know by hearing from those that have had these experiences. Thank you so much. Luv to all.
Happened to me as well. Watched myself be cut out of the back seat of my moms car when I was a kid and "woke up" during being stitched up. The memory of the doctor being startled sticks with me more then the wreck. I just have a still shot in my mind now. I had a very deep NDE during the first round of covid though that changed me all together. We are so loved, accepted and understood by whatever that is. It made me read the Bible alot. That is my form of truth because it's actual counts of people having the same experience and that's what she means about everyone describing it differently. If I attempting to explain the symbols, the feelings, the understanding, and shame I felt for ever not believing before..it wouldn't make sense to others and I know that. Takes time to accept it because at first I wanted everyone to know God was inside us not outside of us and ofcourse you can't throw your pearls to swine (still tunnel vision animals or "machines" as she called them)
Same, about age 5 I had a hernia repair under general anesthesia. Found myself looking down upon the operating table, then sort of floated through the wall of the hospital and found myseld looking down on the busy street that ran in front of the hospital.
I am really happy to see that Essential is engaging with NDE stories and literature! I think these stories have such potential to help people. For me they communicate that there is a loving core to reality in a very direct and emotional way. It's like your heart gets these stories, even if your mind doesn't.
Isn’t the name “Essentia” without an “l” on the end?
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Is it bad if I feel something calling me to die that sort of wiggles whenever it hears these kind of things though? I dunno, maybe it's because my life has been so miserable... Maybe I'm being recalled?
I like to imagine that voice is calling me home to scrap me and reintegrate me... But I think I'll live for now.
Our daughter had a near death experience at age 3, due to near drowning in a group swimming pool. At one time, a few years later, she was with my wife at a certain beach location; she started to tell her mum, that there was something about the location that was making her feel uneasy, and my wife casually mentioned to her that a number of people had drowned there, over the years and our daughter animatedly responded: 'That's it, that's it, let's go, I don't like it here!' Just one other incident -and there are others.
On one occasion, at primary school, our daughter started to tell some of her friends, that her grandmother had just died. A few hours later my wife arrived, about an hour earlier than usual, and told our daughter that something had happened in the family, which proved to be just as our daughter had revealed to her friends. This is a very interesting interview, with Dr Donna, there's far too much 'swept under the carpet' and pathologised by the high priests of materialism in Western society. Kudos, for the interview.
I'm no academic, but it's so refreshing to hear from Dr. Thomas; breaking from material-reductionist science, recognizing "paranormal" experiences, integral theory-type cooperation, and bringing consciousness into all this research with kids & social areas where they're not treated/viewed as bio-machines. And so much more that I won't get into. It does give one hope that things can actually change for the better! Great & exciting work!
The most vital question for each and everyone of us, "Who/what am I"?
She knows, experientially, she is not the body? No one is. So what is the full, never changing reality. The body, mind, sight, hearing, world, people etc. change constantly.
Love this conversation. More like this, please.🙏
I have been grieving my whole life because these questions have always been of utter importance to me in a world that simply ignores them, and doesn’t even dimension them. I studied philosophy with the aim of understanding myself and the world around me-and I’m glad there are academics like this that allow children to have the space to develop psychospiritually and look at themselves clearly.
I have never heard a more incredible speaker. Her IQ has to be off the charts. Amazing!
I had a NDE aged 4. If it's any comfort for a parent of a child who has drowned I did not suffer the transition. I remember the saltness of the water but that's all. I did not struggle and any suffering did not happen. I floated out of a peaceful body into a new state of being The only bad bit was coming back. And the resuscitation.
How old are you now if you don't mind me asking? Also how do you think this changed the course of your life afterwards?
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It happened in July 1967. In September of that year, I started nursery school. That was when I became increasingly aware that I was not a child anymore. I was an adult male who was trapped in a 4-year-old female's body with amnesia. When I did have memories and dreams they were of other people and other times, places, and families. I was in the wrong family. What came out of the water that day had changed. I still feel that all these years later. That little girl had the right idea. She knew what she was doing.
@@juliebarks3195I had an OBE as a 6 year old in 1968 when I fell headfirst into a mechanics’ pit. Time stood still. I saw my body lying prone at the bottom. I watched the rescuers come to ‘save’ me. It was a timeless experience. Later on remember vividly telling my mother it all seemed to take so long … I’m 61 now. Recall it all like it was yesterday and have always done so. As I grew up I always felt different from the other kids as if I knew something they didn’t.
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Thank you for sharing that, It's nice to know I'm not alone with this strangeness💚.
58:40 "The wonderful thing about children is they are natural philosophers." This gives me hope as it points to a capacity innate and still alive (if obscured) in each of us. Thank you.
Essentia has been slaying it recently with these interviews
Right on cue! Just last night I was searching Essentia’s youtube page wishing there were more videos about NDE’s alongside the excellent interview you did with Dr Van Lommel. Here we are, thank you very much.
Synchronicity!
.. and a lovley intervuing model... we even hear the intervuer is breathing inn / inspiering the information dr. Tnomas is bringing forward ... lovely !
Love the work this foundation does! I've had an experience that I know was real and we need more people to know about it.
When i was a child, i could see things no one else saw but whenever i told people, they laughed it off. I buried that part until recently when i randomly predicted the death of both of my parents. Its so important to not make fun of children and just let them be themselves
As one of the first born, of a large family, I/we had plenty of opportunity to engage with siblings that told us of their 'other' life, unfortunately we older kids, wasted our time, and theirs, by correcting their grammar; 'It's not when I was old, it's when I get old', I'll be a train driver'. Listen carefully to little kids, they have stories to tell that don't need a grammar checker.
Past life memories are planted by demons, there is no past life
So are all these deaths just npC playing dead or they just lie about other people or some AI made a green screen background. I don't think I have seen anyone die in my personal life
@@peaceofmyhearthomestead4611How exactly does a demon “plant” a memory? Do you have personal experience with this ?
@@peaceofmyhearthomestead4611 That sounds like you conceptualise potential "Past lives" you may have had as demons.
yes to more nde research
I wish there was more Dr's like you.
This is the morst serios talk about reserch I have heard on UA-cam ! - Dr. Thomas is taking it all sorts of context - you dont even se this high qality to resarch in basic psycological studies. Verry, verry god . Thanks for your god work
Beautiful work of research with children. And, not surprising that the capacity to understand these experiences deeply, even non-linguistically, comes from Dr Donna Thomas's personal experiences. Thank you for this gentle, thoughtful and thought-provoking interview.
On several occasions, when I was a child, I remember floating in my bedroom and looking at myself in bed.
That is called an out of body experience
I had a childhood friend insist he did this all the time at night. I feel bad for laughing at him thinking he was crazy lol
This is very important research. As a child, I had an NDE and many ESP experiences which were validated by a very empathic grandmother. Early validation is so important in order to trust ESP. Also, try researching the work of Carl Jung who founded psychotherapy. I was a psychotherapist for 23-years and taught students about the collective psyche where all knowledge is stored. We have individual, family, national psyches, etc. This phenomenon is how fish, birds and all creatures can move perfectly in swarms. However, humans have a complex psychology and an often misplaced sense of 'me, mine and I'. Good luck!
Play some music and humans can act synchronized.
I understand the jist however. I don't wish to poo poo your comment.
We humans do seem to have difficulty in working together instead of one upping the next person.
The most articulate, intelligent and wise being I've heard speaking about this very important topic in relationship to children. 🦋
With humility and appreciation 🕉️🙏
Ive found that you never know what a child may say. When my granddaughter was 4 she mentioned that she had picked me out to be her grandmother. She told me about a place before here and that she was shown 2 women and told to pick one. My grandson told me about a time when he was a 'big person' and that my daughter and I were sisters and he was our grandfather. He is on the autism spectrum. He told my daughter about a house he said he lived in and she told him he had not lived there. He described some of the house. She was pregnant with him when her and I had lived in this house for a short time. He said he saw the house and was able to see it from 'mommy's tummy'. He said that he could see out of something that was like a window and yet not quite a window.
I had all these experiences including NDE at 3. Telepathy, extreme empathy aka trans personal self, dreams which translate into reality and a sort of lack of boundary between the conscious and unconscious. I could pin my experience to many different diagnosis 😂. At the moment I am researching psychedelic experiences and NDE and how this relates to early childhood experiences. I’m not a child anymore. Lol. 43. I’m compiling info for a book. ❤🎉
I have had several ndes and I would be happy to contribute to your research
Wonderful interview. Am so glad there wasn't background music. Ty for sharing.
Wonderful interview. Thank you Dr. Donna Thomas for your incredible work
Interesting, but I was hoping to hear some NDE of children told in their words .
My daughter when she was under two used to talk about flying with the girl ghost at night and she would talk about the bad man and she would describe them perfectly and what the bad man drove as his car and we lived in the farmhouse where a young girl with mental challenges who is horribly abused by her father and his friends she had drowned in the pond behind the house I thought it was absolutely amazing I would just listen to her tell me the stories all the time in the bedroom my daughter stayed in used to be the bedroom of this young girl
I love that about the analytical idealism.
Wow she's really giving some great passionate answers when yall get into philosophy, what a great interview!
Attitudes need to change.
Fabulous video💯👌
This is a core part of Hindu and Buddhist thought for thousands of years. Indeed Children remember past lives….
I’d love to hear her take on foreign accent syndrome (FAS)… I’ve never heard of children having FAS but as a linguist myself, I find any physicalist explanations to fall ridiculously short (e.g., apraxia) and are far more magical than one that includes access to previous lives or channeling other people’s consciousnesses.
70% of known cases of FAS are women, spent hours on Chat A.i about FAS, fascinating subject.
@@the_famous_reply_guy wow! That is fascinating!
Very interressting discution.Thank you.
This channel
Is so underrated
Beautifully done💕💕💕
I had a strong memory of another life, and experiences talking to a council of people, as a child. I was lucky that my mom didn't freak out.
Have you read Michael Newton 's book life between life?
Great subject and discussion.
Your channel is my most favorite when it comes to the topics that are less explored - an attempt to mainstream ways.
I will extremely appreciate it if you go on podcast too, or sharing the audio version of the discussions because where I live, the cost of internet is super high and speed is low.
Thank you
Thank you very much for your feedback. We are considering creating audio-only versions of our interviews in due course.
We are working on this!!
@@essentiafoundation I appreciate the update. Much love and respect
This is such important research. It also makes me wonder the implications for AI and consciousness as it develops in that arena.
Thank you for this interview.
Great interview love the content
Sounds extremely similar to a DMT trip, which is indigenous in the brain. "Moving through a tunnel or spiral" "feeling more real than real" " Meeting entities or feeling overwhelming love."
There have been experiments done with DMT to replicate the experience and people who have had a real NDE say it's not the same even though some parts seam simular
People who have had nde’s and tried dmt and other hallucinogenic drugs say that the experiences may sound similar on paper but are not the same at all, that the drugs don’t even get close to the nde
I have done Ayahuasca which main ingredient is DMT.. From my research of NDE and my experience Ayahuasca.. It is not even close.
I did dmt one time and was stuck in the tunnel and wanted to make it through but couldnt... lots of fractals and felt a bit of a motherly but stern vibe.
Love this direction. Would be great to have Jim Tucker on for an extended interview (Ian Stevenson’s successor).
IMPORTANT- i hope that you at Essentia noticed that Neil Turok has expressed appreciation about Kastrup, would be AWESOME to have the two chatting together !!! (btw great interview this one )
Hello Francesco. Could you provide a link or a reference to this?
@@essentiafoundation sure, in Theories of Everything of Curt Jaimungal "Neil Turok Answers Questions About the Universe" hea speaks briefly of Kastrup at the beginning and more lengthily at the end. link (first reference at min 3) ua-cam.com/video/OYeC_BNWosE/v-deo.html
@@essentiafoundation ""Neil Turok Answers Questions About the Universe | Rethinking the Foundations"" in Theories of Everything of Curt Jaimungal. He makes a first reference to Kastrup at min 3 and more longer at the end of the interview.
We can find this subject matter all over the the internet in the spiritual arena. However, its never from a clinical view. This will carry more weight with the non-spiritual population. Giving validity to what some of us already know.
Amazing work and interview. If this is of interest to you, you may wish to research Peter Fenwick's work. Also for Essentia Foundation, you may wish to reach out to Peter and ask him over for an interview. I'm sure your audience would appreciate his wisdom. Thank you!
Amazing interview, thank you
There are so many fronts to explore this new paradigm.
Keep on going !!!
47:47 - Yes, the western-biomedical-materialist world-view can be likened to macroscopic Newtonian physics as a method of interpretation (hermeneutic), which is sufficient for measuring physical stuff in a finite and mundane reality, hence, we boldly claim that our brains create consciousness, whereas Einsteinian or quantum physics necessitated a revolution in science whereby we begin to understand that we are not a drop in the ocean; instead, we are the ocean in a drop, and “mutually exclusive phenomena” can both exist at the same time, hence Schrödinger’s cat, and our brains don’t produce consciousness, it produces an illusion of “me-ness and “you-ness” (cogito ergo sum).
Cognosco (ergo sum).
The evidence weighs in favour of an afterlife. This is a great interview. Consciousness is fundamental. We are the eternal witness whether we like it or not. My channel covers idealism, science, scepticism, metaphysics, philosophy in general and much more. NDEs are super interesting.
The Rainbow Bridge isn't related to the afterlife for native Americans (there is a rock formation known as that, but not concerned with the afterlife), all I can think of is a pop culture tradition dating from the mid 20th century related to where deceased pets go, or Bifrost, the Norse belief in a rainbow bridge between the human world and the realm of the gods
The river mentioned at @38:40 brings to mind Lethe.
Our bodies are not the spirit. Its like our car. You are in it and control where it goes. You are not the car but its you who controls it. When it breaks down we take the car to a mechanic. Going to the doctor is like taking your car to some guy down the street rather than to the dealership.
All the idealists around, appreciate work of the scholars at the essential foundation. this is the most logical and parsimonious theory of reality.
Thanks!
Thank you for your support!
You should have found me 😉 I have perfect recall of my NDE as barely 1yrs old. No tunnels and spirals, etc,. My metaphysical experience was different from all I have learned of from studying this for some decades as an experiencer.
What was your experience?
(TBF, 'crossing the rainbow bridge' is a common phrase these days for a pet dying, so it actually isn't impossible that he had heard that in a death context before.) // I was just reading Jung last night, and the mandalas and the cross-cultural themes are very Jungian! // It's funny, you're saying that children around puberty have a lot of PLEs. I think of my middle school years (right around puberty) as being my most spiritual years. I used to constantly experience the phenomenon that CS Lewis calls "Joy" or "Sehnsucht". It stopped as I got older, and I rarely experience it now (at 38). // Calling them "psychotic-like" experiences is SO damaging. It makes me think of what I've read about the Hearing Voices movement, which aims to reframe the experience of hearing voices. The research showed that when people were told that hearing voices was a symptom of schizophrenia and there was no cure, their mental health outcomes were significantly worse than people in cultures that have a more positive explanation for the phenomenon.
Had my nde at 21yrs old back in 08. Only came back because I had a 6 month old at the time and I just couldn't leave her. The warm love, peace, unconditional love and non judgement that I felt was so overwhelming beautiful. Yet I couldn't leave my daughter. I remember saying telepathically that I don't want to leave my daughter. I remember saying but I don't want to leave my daughter I spoke her name. Though I dont recalled seeing anyone I do know someone or something was there speaking to me telepathically. I was seeing pure darkness as thou I was off in space but floating but the darkness was pure unconditional love.I felt no fear at all. I also felt free. Now I am 37 and I know for a fact if I had continued to accept what was happening or if I had went further off I wouldn't have been able to come back and it would have seem as if I had died in my sleep for I was laying down on the bed when it happened. To the world it would have look as if I had died in my sleep.
I can remember a lot of my infancy, and experiences I had as a baby. I had two specific experiences starting when I was a few months old. The first was, I remember falling out of the sky and landing in my body, outside the house we lived in. The stars were so incredibly bright and there were so many of them.
I have always remembered this like it was when my "soul" first came into my body.
The other experience is in the form of a dream. I had this dream very often as a young child. I would be standing at the edge of a cliff that was partially surrounded by ocean. The next thing I remember is falling off the edge, and I would wake up when I hit the ground. It's strange because the first time I had that dream, I was so young I had never even seen the ocean yet, or scenery that looked like that, I didn't know what a cliff was. But I kept experiencing that dream.
Maybe I fell off the cliff and died, and then fell into my current body.
I don't know. It sounds crazy.
I haven't had the dream at all since I grew up.
I'm jealous. I don't remember most of my life, or *any* of my early childhood. It's probably part of why I have been co-opted so fully by physicalism...
Everyone around me always reported such incredible, magical experiences... But I never, ever got one. It felt like I was just unloved or unwanted by God.
The Carmelite nun Bernadette Roberts had a similar experience to this lady. She wrote some unprecedented books that challenged even the standard Christian Mysticism.
Defining the difference between imagination and perception of something objectively existing does not seem to be a problem for the materialistic world view. However, it is interesting how this can be a problem for idealism: in experience, there is no definite border between what is created by an individual mind and what comes from outside of it. Perception is also not something simple: the outer things can be distorted or shaped by the perceiving mind. So the question is not "is this just imagination?", the question is "what kind of interaction has led to this particular experience"?
I really hope I’m more than just a body
I hope dying for me isn't meeting loved ones and reaching catharsis... I want loving darkness. I want that so badly. I regret every day that I survived to adulthood...
So on point.
She said “what’s the point if there’s no change”
The point academia fights for is to make sure that there isn’t change. So the point is no change, decided by zealots.
What we perceive as consciousness may actually be reverse. This "consciousness" may actually be the subconscious of our true "Oneness"
Developp, please.
We are all spirits in the material world.
This lovely lady needs to listen to the audio’s of Rudolf Steiner on the development of the child and life after death leading back to rebirth.
You can practice dying in your dreams. You need to change your mind aka the way you think about death. In dreams the experience of death multiple times, you may even go to where death are, their space.
I’ve had some weird experiences. One is of a man holding my hand and leading me down white stone steps and my parents waiting at the bottom of the steps and holding their hands out to me. Another when I was 12 I had a terrible realisation that my older brother wouldn’t live a long life. He committed suicide aged 27. 3 weeks after my mother in law passed away she came to me in a dream and that when she died, she woke up laughing when she realised what it was all about. Sometimes when daydreaming I can feel people’s emotions if I look at them. This sort of thing just happens randomly and I don’t think I have any control of it. I also feel that I should healing people but I don’t know how.
Beautiful.
David Bingham says children younger than 2 experience life in this expansive way, then become persons with the me, my, personal, I.
My husband remember being in a place called home, and he was talking with another being about coming to earth,
I wonder if those entities during a NDE are the same ones when using DMT or other psychedelics. During birth and death huge amounts of dmt are produced in the body
""Trace amounts of DMT have been detectedTrusted Source in the pineal glands of rats, but not in the human pineal gland. Plus, the pineal gland might not even be the main source. The most recent animal studyTrusted Source on DMT in the pineal gland found that even after removing the pineal gland, the rat brain was still able to produce DMT in different regions."" . Anyway my take is that the "separation" of consciousness (that can be just energy+information") from the body can be achieved in different ways with death being the most decise and clean way ... So i think are similar experience but of totally different intensity ... for example in DMT trips they see a lot of ridicolosa creatures or settings while there things does not exists in NDEs.
Relational quantum mechanics is an example of mindset changes in the approach to "observer/observed " or the measurement problem. 31:34
The Heideggerian scholar Mark Wrathall sees the brain's role as more like a radio than a computer. Heidegger's work has, he believes, undermined the distinction between the subjective and the objective.
The work of Roger Penrose on the possible role of a quantum mechanical influence on neuronal microtubules may, if correct, may provide a way to go beyond the actually materially "present", without taking refuge in the supernatural.
Im trying to figure out how a PhD in linguistics informs research in NDE.
The death of the phusical is one thing but the human has not only a physical body
i remember the river
I’ve never understood the dismissive attitude adult institutions have towards children, even when they’re the subject of research.
Do they see a bright light or a womb-like loving darkness? Or is it one after another?
We do not live in a mechanical universe, most methods used by doctors, are based on this fact❤
"18:50 "we have a children's global mental health system which is collapsing..."
What does it mean? 🤔
Water is intelligent and we are made up of water, so does all the information get stored in the water within us? Or just in the DNA?
41:38 I'm not surprised, the collective unconscious of Carl Jung snd archetypal memory, is available to all of us, young or old.
Do you own research on Quantum metamorphosis
1:08:20 hmmmmmm
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Ian Stevenson University of Virginia
I'm pretty sure I died before.
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if the brain is total dead, nobody came back to tell stories,
If you meditate and practice techniques to lucid dream, you will have same visions as in NDE. The pineal gland can do so many things and the body in general.
But at the end, we all die.
So when my son spoke to me years after he died physically, then how come he wasn't dead? We don't all die, our physical bodies all die. The real question out of that is, is there another type of 'death' that may happen with a physical death, and that person never speaks or is heard again?
@@septemberamyx if we don't die, and there is a spirit then this world is just a game.
In my culture, before the christianity to be a world force, my ancestors believed this world is just a trial for the next world.
My father died a few years back, the bank told us he has some checks with money, he never told us, for me seeing my father dids he never loved us, just him! But one night in a dream, i was with him fixing some walls on the stair corridor of the block... And when i woke up, i run in his room and check the highest place of the room... So i found 1-2 checks, don't remember well..the idea is the dream inspired me to find them.. This is a real story that happen to me, but i still think after dead is no coming back... what we dream is what we wish to see, our unconscious mind is weird and doesn't understand reality as our councesnes.
And as i said, when you die because of the brain, you will never come back!
Im sorry for you're loss, and i wish no pity on me, hope i will see better in time! When i took lsd, my mind told me all of this is fake, and we never die...idk if this is real, but the mind can be very wild when trying to exist this realm with other "adds".
@@septemberamyx sorry, you have a trauma to fix, no god nothing can help you, just you... we all lose people, and our brains can make us feel they never died, amazing i spoke my loss, but youtube hide my comments, proves how real is this world.
@@HaosCosmic gee how wonderfully male and arrogant you sound. You know EVERYTHING! I'll bow down and worship you! You must feel real proud of yourself.
@@septemberamyx im nothing of what you say. I personally see I'm a pos, but im who i want, i study and try to understand the low and the high, is normal to sound arrogant when i type and English not my main language.
Nu am vrut sa par arogant, ma vad SI Eu, dar asa sunt de mic, intreb orice, iar ce nu inteleg, caut informatii valide cu licenta sa-mi confirm "prostia".
How many here have had an experience nothing can explain? Write your experience I bet many will be helped collectively
@user-px3yp4jc5r these are experiences that science can not answer in totality. Roughly %10 of the earth's population has had an NDE. Some never talk about it because it was negative to them.
However if others have had a similar experience perhaps it can help inter personally to understand what it was and it means.
For instance the overlaps recorded that are similar yet they have different religions, language and ethnicity. For example, traveling through a Tunnel or dark space.
These bits of information that are hard to find anywhere but in these context. These bits may help others comprehend what they also experienced.
Saw a shape of a person, made out of plasma like substance, one lunch time in my house, standing in our bedroom doorway. It was all swirling within the shape, colour of the sun, but not illuminating the corridor.
I was standing there for a while, unable to move and then I run downstairs to tell my husband who said he just saw something pass the sitting room door.
Don't have any other details.
I was unable to see if this shape had any legs, as my view was obstructed by a trunk which is positioned near the door where the shape of a human (being) was. It was about 1.5 m tall.
Thank you.
If death is a “lie” then what the hell are all of the none-dead doing while the planet burns?
Have any children reported near birth experiences...that would really be more significant in proving consciousness isn't produced by the brain. If their brains are developed enough to speak then it producing a nde doesn't really prove anything on the contrary
What is a NBE? I wonder if it's anything like what my son spoke about when he was 3, to me. Before he was born, he was always in white light. Only light.
Lots of incidents of children reporting being alive somewhere and then being born. They report chosing or not chosing parents before they were born.
The rainbow bridge is the way to Valhalla.
NDE means "near death" not actually death experiences.
so, no, this is not in any way evidence of anything "extra sensoral".
Like please take a sip of water…
Reincarnation is the true hell !
Of course consciousness is not emergent from the physical brain!!! At last.
I thought it was about children not her
It’s her research
Yeah would have loved to hear more about the actual experiences too. Or at least something about them.
Did you make it past the 5-minute mark?
@@oe128 yes watched the whole video. Why?
I think they do have time to reflect, i think materialistic people are stuck in their little bubble