ATTENTION: i messed up with some of the transcription of numbers from my spreadsheet to this presentation, so there will be some apparent math errors for the averages on the first few slides. However, the numbers for the final rating are an accurate reflection of all of my base inputs, so any inaccuracies you see in the early screen are from oversight when showing a display, not the final math for the ultimate rating.
@@danteauditore6220Unfortunately, Snoke is like the Marrok of the sequels. He was introduced as something mysterious and interesting but then got sliced up like bantha poodo.
Excellent video! I'm really happy for Jabba being that high. I have been farming him for 2 months and he is going to be my first GL. Thank you again for your video and your help in all SWGOH related.
I would argue that SLKR is a 9.5 or so in Grand Arena since he doesnt need any lifters, no omicrons, and can take otherwise pretty useless FO characters and still beat most defenses. I get the banner drop part, but that would lower him to a 8.5 or 9 for me personally
Probably not worth an edit, but at least right now you don't actually need Leia's ult in the raid. Her "raid ult" is unlocked even if her normal one isn't!
As someone who did a SEE rush after the great nerf of 2021 it pains me to see SEE last on every single one of these lists lol I feel like he does get a bad rap but I’m excited for darth bane to come out and SEE finally get the respect he deserves lol no other GL can function without the best characters in their respective factions on their team aside from Kylo on offense and i feel like that’s something that’s always overlooked
Love this video! Great for every player in the game. Thank you, one comment on Leia’s requirements, she doesn’t need JKL… but that’s me nip picking, really love your content mate. Thank you again, really enjoy watching your GAC’s
As awesome as Jabba is, he should not be over JMK in terms of overall performance. To be honest, I feel like Leia is being a bit hyped up since she's the most recent GL and it kinda makes sense with her datacron and her new raid but I have a feeling that Kenobi might surpass her at some point in the future. But for now let's just hope Darth Bane makes SEE a better GL.
I think JMK will soon reclaim his title as number 1 GL in the game once Leia DC goes I think she's gonna take a solid hit in pvp defensive power. In my mind JMK has basically had about 2 years of teams built up to deny value from him and none of them have really worked and that's kinda insane.
Yeah and the fact that JMK is still a counter to her despite all that defense makes him such a solid pick. SLKR is another GL who is not very dependant on the power of datacrons, without datacrons he can easily beat any LV team. He's not useful in raids anymore but his requirements take you to an Executor farm, which automatically still makes him worthy of farming. If they ever bring back raids like the old ones, he will become PvE relevant again.
Man I feel like LV got the short end of the stick on the requirement rankings. Gas and Bad Batch + Marauder are all great units to have, always seemed far more useful across all game modes than many of the other GL's requirements.
18:35 I never knew about SLKR under KRU lead--is the TM on crit enough to keep a train going? Who would be the teammates then--SLKR Lobster and OG Kylo I assume for max TM? What about the fifth, since I don't really have any other R7 FO's besides those
Once you get ult you basically never leave! I like to make sure I have stabbed at least once in the wave so you’re gaining TM. Lobster is helpful, but you could get by with a generic DS that has an AOE
Thanks for the video, Songeta. I do respectfully disagree with a few things, but a treat nonetheless. I hope to meet you in the Arena soon, my friend 🍻
I don’t see Leia being the best GL once that Drogon DC is gone. Attacked one with a standard JMK team without the damage reduction lvl 6 or Drogon lvl 9 and without the extra damage from foresight on my end and it was pretty straightforward but time will tell.
The waters have definitely been muddied lately with GLs. LV is so easy to beat with leia and because of that he even loses a lot of offensive viability if you have to make it through a leia as well. Curious to see how this looks with Darth Bane in a few months
I started in May of this year, and Jabba seemed to be undisputed King of your rankings last time (as Leia is now the undisputed Queen). Did Lord Vader ever "have his day" to the extent that these two newer GL's have had? It seems to me that he has the most brutal requirements, yet has always been underwhelming and in need of some incentive to build at this point.
I think I’ve always had JMK on top before, but yeah Jabba was up there! And LV… OH boy did he have his hey-day. Was basically unbeatable with datacron set 4 which ran from about September to December 2022, go back and watch old GACs from then and see the frustration related to him
I’ve heard sidious with SEE is actually really good some people consider it a replacement of wat and/or armorer since it gives all the other sith more survivability so idk if he should have dropped so much. But I am excited for darth bane to come out I can’t wait to see how he does with SEE
Just an idea since you have your Leia now, I would love to see a video of how she plays in all the different fights in the upcoming Proving Grounds with various comps etc!
I have a great question. I have both JML and Rey; In what instance would Rey be better in Conquest than JML? I am thinking "Keep character x alive" while trying to conserve JML's stamina for something else?
Yes! Keeping other characters alive (mainly light side) is her main specialty. You can also get into loops with her if you bring it wat where she only uses lifeblood and you can get feats done where you need one thing spammed a lot without killing the other team. For instance, I used her, Chewpio, GK, Wat and c3P0 to get the “inflict blind” feat done
Great video but you got some stuff wrong which screwed up the scores like at - 9:07 see has 7+7+8+7 he should have a 7.25 average not 7 - 19:20 raids see & jml should have higher scores since they have req in the new raids - 19:45 jabba should have a higher score than leia cuz smugglers runs 2 is 3 times a month better event then Tbh jmk should be an 8 in conquest to reflect rey superiority (feats !!)
you count things like assault battles but not smugglers run II or endor escalation? jabba should get 10 ponts extra, leia maybe 3 and all other gl big zero IMO jabba is still most wortwhile gl by far I agree with pretty much everything
Did you watch this with the sound off? I specifically mentioned that those extra for Jabba and Leia are part of that category which is why they scored higher there… 🤦♂️
my appologies, I missed it somehow so how rey has 4 points with no AB or extra event and jabba has 9 with smugglers run II? and jkl can do tier 3 AB and he is his req my point is you extremly undervalue rewards from SR2, its like 6k crystals worth of mod materials per month! thats why I cant agree with any GL ranking that doesnt put jabba in the 1st place (overall value)
Your math seems off. See has the same marks as Jabba and LV in GAC but averages only 7? Plus you seem to be weighting things differently than you stated. Rey got four 8s in GAC two 7s in TW. You said they were all the same weighting but somehow she got a 7.17. I stopped adding after that, but you may want to check your spreadsheet for future videos.
The spreadsheets behind the video are fine, I think I just made some mistakes when moving the numbers to the presentation from the last time I did this. Sloppy on my part, but the final number on the last screen is definitely right though
SEE average in GAC is seven but his numbers are 7, 7, 8, 7. That averages to 7.25? Kind of confused. I only own one of them so I can only give comments on SEE. I think he's underrated on Offense. I can beat JMK, JML, and SLKR with him. Very much agree with the rest of this though!
It’s possible I missed changing the number, but the end calculation for the overall rating kept the true average into account. Whoops! And he may seem underrated, but at a top level he gets thwarted by several GLs pretty thoroughly
The one thing I heavily disagree with is ranking conquest this high. Any GL can do a handful of feats at max each run and those aren't hard without one. I haven't really felt a big impact of unlocking any GL on conquest
Something I’d recommend you do, is show a entirety of the graph… show the end goal, just a total picture of everything in the vid… then say for everyone not wanting to wait. This is all you need to see..l then go into your video. I don’t want to look threw the video for what I need to know.. just give a total generalization at the beginning and I bet, you’ll get more likes. Let’s be honest, no one wants to spend periods of time listening , they’d rather just get a picture of what the goal is. Then it create chewier who return and return for more of the picture… it’s only rational
LV beats Leia easily with Reva, GI, 7S and Piett (I have seen it with Drogencron but suboptimal Lvl 3 and 6). Yes, you need Inquis but you get Maul and can use him with DS Mandos to take out a GL. And he should have a 10 in Req Quality, he has no useless Requirements (other than JMK who you gave a 9 [looking at you, Clone Seargent]) and a few really great ones, like Gas and Bad Batch
Fyi, 2 min in and I’m sick of hearing about what isn’t needed so to speak. To each their own right, so… a info graph depicting the entirety of the situation… boom , more likes and re views
ATTENTION: i messed up with some of the transcription of numbers from my spreadsheet to this presentation, so there will be some apparent math errors for the averages on the first few slides. However, the numbers for the final rating are an accurate reflection of all of my base inputs, so any inaccuracies you see in the early screen are from oversight when showing a display, not the final math for the ultimate rating.
Thanks 🙏 ❤
I can’t wait to see what Darth Bane will do to Sith Eternal
Me too! Recorded this prior to that news, but super cool!
Now we need Snoke with Praetorian Guard synergy.
@@danteauditore6220Unfortunately, Snoke is like the Marrok of the sequels. He was introduced as something mysterious and interesting but then got sliced up like bantha poodo.
@@jacobtodhunter410 yeah but this will be a Supreme Leader lifter who has fallen off lately compared to the other GLs
Excellent video! I'm really happy for Jabba being that high. I have been farming him for 2 months and he is going to be my first GL.
Thank you again for your video and your help in all SWGOH related.
Good video. Only comment is that JML should be given a 7 in raids since his requirements give the most eligible toons in Endor (other than Leia).
That’s a fair point, I was not considering requirement eligibility for raids!
If we’re considering the light speed bundles, SLKR and Rey ease of access have to be at least 12/10!
Totally agree but only for ppl who use the power of dark side(money)
That’s a little to removed from the normal process for me haha
I would argue that SLKR is a 9.5 or so in Grand Arena since he doesnt need any lifters, no omicrons, and can take otherwise pretty useless FO characters and still beat most defenses. I get the banner drop part, but that would lower him to a 8.5 or 9 for me personally
We might play very different versions of GAC then, banners are paramount. Since he gets bad banners aside from solos, it is a major downside for him
@@songeta Fair enough, I'm at a point where not every team is identical so it's not 100% a banner matchup
Probably not worth an edit, but at least right now you don't actually need Leia's ult in the raid. Her "raid ult" is unlocked even if her normal one isn't!
Haha I just noticed this after I recorded it 😂
As someone who did a SEE rush after the great nerf of 2021 it pains me to see SEE last on every single one of these lists lol I feel like he does get a bad rap but I’m excited for darth bane to come out and SEE finally get the respect he deserves lol no other GL can function without the best characters in their respective factions on their team aside from Kylo on offense and i feel like that’s something that’s always overlooked
Take heart that he is not that much lower that others though in my rating! No GL is a bad GL
Love this video! Great for every player in the game. Thank you, one comment on Leia’s requirements, she doesn’t need JKL… but that’s me nip picking, really love your content mate. Thank you again, really enjoy watching your GAC’s
Shoot, you’re right it’s just CLS! Thanks man appreciate it 😄
I feel like jabba should be a solid 10 on assault battles+. His event is way better than Lena's.
As awesome as Jabba is, he should not be over JMK in terms of overall performance. To be honest, I feel like Leia is being a bit hyped up since she's the most recent GL and it kinda makes sense with her datacron and her new raid but I have a feeling that Kenobi might surpass her at some point in the future. But for now let's just hope Darth Bane makes SEE a better GL.
He is definitely the real deal, that’s for sure
I think JMK will soon reclaim his title as number 1 GL in the game once Leia DC goes I think she's gonna take a solid hit in pvp defensive power.
In my mind JMK has basically had about 2 years of teams built up to deny value from him and none of them have really worked and that's kinda insane.
Yeah and the fact that JMK is still a counter to her despite all that defense makes him such a solid pick. SLKR is another GL who is not very dependant on the power of datacrons, without datacrons he can easily beat any LV team. He's not useful in raids anymore but his requirements take you to an Executor farm, which automatically still makes him worthy of farming. If they ever bring back raids like the old ones, he will become PvE relevant again.
Probably true!
Leia is comically high in this. Once the Drogan Cron expires people’s eyes will be opened.
Man I feel like LV got the short end of the stick on the requirement rankings. Gas and Bad Batch + Marauder are all great units to have, always seemed far more useful across all game modes than many of the other GL's requirements.
I will admit - I forgot to take Marauder into consideration when I was evaluating this
18:35 I never knew about SLKR under KRU lead--is the TM on crit enough to keep a train going? Who would be the teammates then--SLKR Lobster and OG Kylo I assume for max TM? What about the fifth, since I don't really have any other R7 FO's besides those
Once you get ult you basically never leave! I like to make sure I have stabbed at least once in the wave so you’re gaining TM. Lobster is helpful, but you could get by with a generic DS that has an AOE
Thanks for the video, Songeta. I do respectfully disagree with a few things, but a treat nonetheless. I hope to meet you in the Arena soon, my friend 🍻
Very positively said, thank you good sir! Appreciate it
Great video love to see others opinions!
I don’t see Leia being the best GL once that Drogon DC is gone. Attacked one with a standard JMK team without the damage reduction lvl 6 or Drogon lvl 9 and without the extra damage from foresight on my end and it was pretty straightforward but time will tell.
It’s possible! Then again, maybe set 13 has something super great for her too, ya never know
Yeah people are way overrating her due to the cron. She is middle of the pack.
The waters have definitely been muddied lately with GLs. LV is so easy to beat with leia and because of that he even loses a lot of offensive viability if you have to make it through a leia as well. Curious to see how this looks with Darth Bane in a few months
Darth bane will be interesting before, made this video before that news!
I started in May of this year, and Jabba seemed to be undisputed King of your rankings last time (as Leia is now the undisputed Queen). Did Lord Vader ever "have his day" to the extent that these two newer GL's have had? It seems to me that he has the most brutal requirements, yet has always been underwhelming and in need of some incentive to build at this point.
I think I’ve always had JMK on top before, but yeah Jabba was up there! And LV… OH boy did he have his hey-day. Was basically unbeatable with datacron set 4 which ran from about September to December 2022, go back and watch old GACs from then and see the frustration related to him
Lord vader is a 10 in Conquest.
A few aa disk drops the team to one shot kill letting me get feats with like saw etc. He gives jml a run for his money
Yes he kills teams easily, but Rey and JML are much better at facilitating some challenging feats
Conquest and RoTE got triple weighted?? Kinda surprised I figured GAC would be the highest weighted and Pve stuff would be the x1 multipliers
GAC is effectively x8! I gave conquest x3 cause even though it’s one game mode it is long and impactful.
My oppion: 1. Emperor 2. Jabba 3. Kylo 4. Leia 5. Kenobi 6. Luke 7. Vader 8. Rey
Interesting 👀
The sith eternal has a big sith synergy and the sith are so strong
I’ve heard sidious with SEE is actually really good some people consider it a replacement of wat and/or armorer since it gives all the other sith more survivability so idk if he should have dropped so much. But I am excited for darth bane to come out I can’t wait to see how he does with SEE
This is only helpful in TW and of you have omicron and a full sith team
@@MightySeagull29 yeah I was talking about the TW section where he got marked down
@@Zimmy369 I just didn’t know if you had known that
Just an idea since you have your Leia now, I would love to see a video of how she plays in all the different fights in the upcoming Proving Grounds with various comps etc!
He won't be able to show it. He has all conquest toons unlocked and at 7 stars. Proving grounds is locked for such people.
@@remo9756 oh i didnt know you couldnt even play the events.. shame.
This :(
Darth Bane is going to shift SEE so much, very exciting
I have a great question. I have both JML and Rey; In what instance would Rey be better in Conquest than JML? I am thinking "Keep character x alive" while trying to conserve JML's stamina for something else?
Yes! Keeping other characters alive (mainly light side) is her main specialty. You can also get into loops with her if you bring it wat where she only uses lifeblood and you can get feats done where you need one thing spammed a lot without killing the other team. For instance, I used her, Chewpio, GK, Wat and c3P0 to get the “inflict blind” feat done
Great video but you got some stuff wrong which screwed up the scores like at
- 9:07 see has 7+7+8+7 he should have a 7.25 average not 7
- 19:20 raids see & jml should have higher scores since they have req in the new raids
- 19:45 jabba should have a higher score than leia cuz smugglers runs 2 is 3 times a month better event then
Tbh jmk should be an 8 in conquest to reflect rey superiority (feats !!)
Yes, I am sorry - see pinned comment
you count things like assault battles but not smugglers run II or endor escalation?
jabba should get 10 ponts extra, leia maybe 3 and all other gl big zero
IMO jabba is still most wortwhile gl by far
I agree with pretty much everything
Did you watch this with the sound off? I specifically mentioned that those extra for Jabba and Leia are part of that category which is why they scored higher there… 🤦♂️
my appologies, I missed it somehow
so how rey has 4 points with no AB or extra event and jabba has 9 with smugglers run II? and jkl can do tier 3 AB and he is his req
my point is you extremly undervalue rewards from SR2, its like 6k crystals worth of mod materials per month!
thats why I cant agree with any GL ranking that doesnt put jabba in the 1st place (overall value)
Your math seems off. See has the same marks as Jabba and LV in GAC but averages only 7? Plus you seem to be weighting things differently than you stated. Rey got four 8s in GAC two 7s in TW. You said they were all the same weighting but somehow she got a 7.17. I stopped adding after that, but you may want to check your spreadsheet for future videos.
The spreadsheets behind the video are fine, I think I just made some mistakes when moving the numbers to the presentation from the last time I did this. Sloppy on my part, but the final number on the last screen is definitely right though
SEE average in GAC is seven but his numbers are 7, 7, 8, 7. That averages to 7.25? Kind of confused. I only own one of them so I can only give comments on SEE. I think he's underrated on Offense. I can beat JMK, JML, and SLKR with him. Very much agree with the rest of this though!
It’s possible I missed changing the number, but the end calculation for the overall rating kept the true average into account. Whoops! And he may seem underrated, but at a top level he gets thwarted by several GLs pretty thoroughly
I really need to put more relics on my Jabba characters 😂
what is the song on in the background? at 2:30
Really unsure about rey being that high but the rest looks sound!
Rey is a beast! But I understand your sentiment
The one thing I heavily disagree with is ranking conquest this high. Any GL can do a handful of feats at max each run and those aren't hard without one. I haven't really felt a big impact of unlocking any GL on conquest
Definitely a debatable point, I respect your opinion
Between health and offense, which is more of a priority for rey?
Hard to say, I tend to focus on health myself, but idk if that is better
29:18
Hear hear
Something I’d recommend you do, is show a entirety of the graph… show the end goal, just a total picture of everything in the vid… then say for everyone not wanting to wait. This is all you need to see..l then go into your video. I don’t want to look threw the video for what I need to know.. just give a total generalization at the beginning and I bet, you’ll get more likes. Let’s be honest, no one wants to spend periods of time listening , they’d rather just get a picture of what the goal is. Then it create chewier who return and return for more of the picture… it’s only rational
Go watch someone else then 🤷♂️
TBH you should have probably waited until the drogan datacron is gone as that is really tainting the data.
Yeah gotta do it sometime and there always gonna be something switching. I honestly wanted to do it while she was still on top though
so slkr not good?
He’s definitely very good, just his position took a small tumble. He’s a fantastic offensive GL
You don’t need jkl for leia
Got that mixed up with CLS!
LV by 5v5 only 7? Atleast a 9 he Beats everything and is more consistent than JML …
He may deserve an 8
He is called Lord Failure for a reason.
LV beats Leia easily with Reva, GI, 7S and Piett (I have seen it with Drogencron but suboptimal Lvl 3 and 6).
Yes, you need Inquis but you get Maul and can use him with DS Mandos to take out a GL.
And he should have a 10 in Req Quality, he has no useless Requirements (other than JMK who you gave a 9 [looking at you, Clone Seargent]) and a few really great ones, like Gas and Bad Batch
Oh wow, I’ll have to check that out I didn’t know that!
My r1 wampa can kill r7 SEE
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That’s fair!
Fyi, 2 min in and I’m sick of hearing about what isn’t needed so to speak. To each their own right, so… a info graph depicting the entirety of the situation… boom , more likes and re views
I’m a UA-camr not an infographic engineer